1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The following. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 3: This is the Player's Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: Heckma Harrison and Newi scrugs. 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 4: Happy posts, married, Christmas, everybody, Welcome to lounge, brought to 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 4: you by Aristocrat Giving. Your favorite negroes are here. Yeah, 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 4: Harris Building, it's very Church scrugs. The Cowboy locker room 11 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 4: is open now, just left there. Michael Parsons in a 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 4: good mood. Oh, he said his girl bought him a 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 4: big golf car for Christmas. So he said, my golf car, Yeah, 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 4: he said, gonna get tricked out with some lines on nations. 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 4: But I don't own any golf clubs. So hey, he's 16 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 4: ain't even on the course. So how big this state is? 17 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 4: That's true? 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: So heck. 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 4: What my me thought was, this man needs to meet 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 4: Barry Church. And of course yes, you need to get 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: mister Church here. 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: You know rich friends, you know other rich friends. 23 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 4: Rich hop me up with endorsements. I can introduce him 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 4: to some castle. Just get a couple of gear, that's 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 4: all I need some gear. 26 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: That's make the intro. That's it. You're listening, parcels. Let's go. 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: You get here early enough we can go back to 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 4: locker room. I just thought Jason Hatcher back there. So 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 4: you know, man, I forgot how. 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 5: Big dude the Gramley state, Yeah, you need to go. 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: You need to go and find Michael Man. 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: Go ahead, talk man, chop it up with him. 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 4: Got to text him him, swing by so exactly. So 34 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 4: I asked, you got to go coach now, and he 35 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 4: said it's somebody the team who plays that can help 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 4: him out. And I just like, yeah, Church singing home back, 37 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: I see an opportunity. That is that is I appreciate 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 4: that you see an opportunity right there. See if I 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 4: can finish it of All Saints. 40 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 5: London, All Saints Man, Yes, so heck man, we did 41 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 5: the little topics today and I'm shocked. 42 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 4: That's all we gonna jump off. I don't know whether 43 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: it was Christmas eggnog or something. Barry Church says he's 44 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 4: changed his mind. 45 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: So that message went through the chat. 46 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 6: But my Kansas City pig, that's crazy even see. 47 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 5: It because you know, you know, don't don't let him 48 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 5: do that, because I thought that pick went in. 49 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: I thought, I went. 50 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: I've changed my mind on McCarthy. So what does that? 51 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 4: What does that mean? 52 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 5: Man? 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell the people, you know, what they want 54 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 4: to hear, and that's the truth, all right. 55 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: So going through this thing, I mean, I know I've 56 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: been hard. 57 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: I've been one of the people that's been on Mike 58 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: mccafee saying you haven't done what you need to do. 59 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 6: You were brought here to win a championship, which is true. 60 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 6: He was brought here to do what coach Gearrett wasn't 61 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 6: able to do in the words of Newie Scrugs, And 62 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 6: that's the possible truth right there. And he was yeah, 63 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 6: and many of you, many other people, and he wasn't 64 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 6: able to get them past that division mark. So that's 65 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 6: still hold strong. But to me, a lot of weight 66 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 6: has to go to what he's been able to do 67 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 6: as far as get these players to continue to play. Like, 68 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 6: to me, that that holds a lot of weight out 69 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 6: there for me, because when you look. 70 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: At him the team over they could. 71 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 6: Have been through the talent, all right, when Dak Prescott 72 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 6: went down for the season, they could have through the 73 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 6: talent and just ran off just went out there getting 74 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 6: ready for Cabo and just saying, ah, you know, I'm 75 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 6: injured here and there, and I you know, I don't 76 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 6: want to suit up or I'm not gonna give it 77 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 6: my all. They could have been through the talent there, 78 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 6: but they did. They could have through the talent in Cincinnati, 79 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 6: when basically their playoff hosts were destroyed, it was over with. 80 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 6: They lost a heartbreaker, but they didn't. Man, and they 81 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 6: continue to go out there and the shit best players 82 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 6: that are going out there and fighting, and those are 83 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 6: the guys that usually the rest of the team rallies behind. 84 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: All right. 85 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 6: When I was on teams that Hugh and the Tower early, man, 86 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 6: we get these Vegas trips going up week fifteen. We fourteen, 87 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 6: got these Vegas trips lined up, and those were the 88 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 6: best players that were saying. And so of course myself, 89 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 6: being a young guy, I'm gonna follow suit all this 90 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 6: season's done for. I'm cool. But when you got your 91 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 6: best guys out there, the Parsons, the Lambs, Bland Lewis, 92 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 6: those cats rolling still, it showed me a lot. It 93 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 6: showed me that this guy still had the locker room, 94 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 6: all right, because that's huge to me. You gotta in 95 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 6: this situation, I think. 96 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 4: A lot goes into what the players want, and. 97 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: Obviously they still want big Micael Arown. 98 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 6: You know, we saw some of that controversy earlier in 99 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 6: this season where they were talking about, you know, he 100 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 6: hasn't putting this much work in Dah Da Da Dad. 101 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 6: That's one player, Ceede Lamb talking about the offense. 102 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: He ain't doing what it's supposed to do. 103 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: But he went over there and had and kudos them, 104 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 4: had a man and man conversation with those guys. And 105 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: what do we see off of that? You know, hey, 106 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 4: man as the switch, I talked to Mike. You know 107 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 4: we're good now and the play on. 108 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: The field shows it. 109 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 6: So I know I've been extremely hard on them, and 110 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 6: rightfully so because you know this was the proven year 111 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 6: and you know, didn't get it done. But I gotta 112 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 6: put weight until what these players want and obviously what. 113 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 4: They show on the football field is they still want 114 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 4: Mike around because they could have been through the talent 115 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 4: and they did it. So to me, you're gonna end 116 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 4: the season, you know, possibly nine and eight, which I 117 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: predicted early on, but you know, we'll see from there. 118 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 4: But these players, you know what I mean, they want 119 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 4: big mic, they want big mic. So you know, I 120 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 4: gotta I gotta put weight on what the players do 121 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: out there on the football. 122 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: I changed my mind. Who are you? 123 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 4: Who are you? 124 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: I do? It was a nine and eight wildcard? Wild card? 125 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: It what for Washington pulling off for you know, heroics? 126 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 1: It could have been aligned? Who are you with Bury Church? 127 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, because noe, are you okay? Are you shocked? 128 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 5: Because I'm shocked? 129 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: How'll they do? 130 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 4: You're shot? I read this book this year, best book 131 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 4: I read this year. It's called Think Again by Adam Grant, 132 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 4: and he says that we need to usually becoming things 133 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 4: through either you're a prosecutor a politician. It's a prosecutor 134 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: politician and it was another p and basically that's how 135 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 4: we look at things. And he said, well, we need 136 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: to be more of a scientist. As a scientist, you 137 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 4: allow yourself to change your mind. Like you know, if 138 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: you're come in as a as a preacher, preacher like, nah, 139 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: this is what I believe at that. I ain't moving 140 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 4: off that politician. Well this is my stance and I'm 141 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: gonna move off my stands. Prosecutor. Hey, this is the law, 142 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 4: this is what's meant to follow. But as a scientist 143 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 4: you can say, man, things change, And to me, I'm 144 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: looking at it and his church is kind of coming 145 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: around to where you and I have been, where we 146 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: kind of look at it more in context and just Okay, 147 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 4: here's what happened. What's everything that went into this year? Also, 148 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: what's the resume been? 149 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: First year? Bad? Bad? 150 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: Okay? Mike Nolan going twelve twelve and five, twelve, five twelve. 151 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: And five bad? 152 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 4: Playoff now and he was a part of it. Bad, 153 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: But starting to look to me, if I'm looking at 154 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: open mindedly, general manager did not give him all the 155 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: tools that were needed. You bring in a guy like 156 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 4: Mike Zimmer who's shown you, oh, by the way, as 157 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 4: the guys have bought into it, even though they're losing, dudes, 158 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 4: they bought into the defenses, played well. He may have 159 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: even save his job. I think those are things that 160 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 4: can turn your mind around on Mike McCarthy. Which maybe 161 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 4: that's where you hit church as you've kind of been inside. 162 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 4: Just let me think again, let me think about this again. 163 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: Let me go back and line up everything again. You 164 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: played the game, and so you're like, hey, I was 165 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 4: there when uncawayh was coaching. We all laid down on 166 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: a Sunday night at Green Bay and guys that thumping 167 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 4: beat out of us. And then next thing we know, wait, 168 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: not the coach anymore, and it's Jason Garrett. The middle 169 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 4: of the season, just in the locker room, Jordan Lewis 170 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 4: and Cooper Rush were asked about do you like the 171 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 4: fact that Mike is still playing veteran guys saying let's 172 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 4: get out here and win a professionalist about him? So 173 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 4: maybe that's where you got to I'm not a player. 174 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 4: I don't know the workings of the room and how 175 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: things and people can lay down, But to me, I 176 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: try to look at the whole body of working what 177 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 4: Mike has done. Yes, it has been a disappointment because 178 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 4: he did not take them further than what he did, 179 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 4: but he wasn't one hundred percent alone here. 180 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 5: The hardest part about doing this job is working with 181 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 5: people that you respect, respect what they say, you respect 182 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 5: their opinions, and then you're trying to hold on to 183 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 5: your opinion. And so for years now we've been having 184 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 5: this conversation and I've been doing a deep dive on 185 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 5: what's your deal with Mike off air on air, asking 186 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 5: you these same questions, and you've always come to the 187 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 5: point of the moment. The moment is fleeting from him. 188 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 5: He knows what's up, that he knows what's out there. 189 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 5: The team has to be ready for the opportunity, and 190 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 5: each time he's gotten there, he hadn't lived up to 191 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 5: that moment. He's fail. I've asked other guys, as other professionals, 192 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 5: had these conversations and say, man, what's the deal with Mike. 193 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, because to me, when I 194 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 5: look at Mike McCarthy his body of work, and I 195 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 5: look at the other guys that are, you know, his contemporaries, 196 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 5: I always say the same thing. 197 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, look, Mike adds up. He adds up in 198 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: every way, the way that he treats his players. You 199 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: always hear guys, man, home, you know, treat me like 200 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: a man. 201 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 5: You know, I ain't no kid, you know, And just 202 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 5: a respect level that he's earned from everybody that's ever 203 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 5: played with him except for Aaron Rodgers. Okay, but still, 204 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 5: but yeah, it's still they did great things together. I 205 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 5: look at and I think, as you come to the 206 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 5: we talked about it at the beginning of the year, 207 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 5: months before the season even started. What does this mean 208 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 5: for Mike coming into a season where he does not 209 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 5: have a contract? And everybody, I think collectively said this 210 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 5: is a disaster. It's going to be a disaster because 211 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 5: if the team starts hot, then everybody's going to be saying, 212 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 5: where'she's where's the contract for Mike? If things go right 213 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 5: and there's injuries and you fall fall through the floor when. 214 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: He getting out of here, give me a paul on 215 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: because he. 216 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 4: Oh, give me that. 217 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: And I mean, we've been going through this. 218 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 5: It's been like this from a media standpoint each and 219 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 5: every weekend. To me, man, when I look at Mike McCarthy, 220 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 5: I can just go back to his belief that he 221 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 5: has in himself and his confidence. Because if I was Mike, 222 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 5: if I was hearing some of the things that I 223 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 5: was hearing from the media and on the radio station, Dog, 224 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 5: I been know me, Dog, I'm be in a shouting 225 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 5: match every week with these boys. 226 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: Jes what you say, say what you said when you 227 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: said it, you know. 228 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 5: But it's his the confidence that he has in himself 229 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 5: and the ability to go out there and prepare this 230 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 5: team even though, look, you're out of the playoffs, it's 231 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 5: over with. 232 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: Where was this? 233 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 5: Where was this energy against Tampa? Man, when y'all playing 234 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 5: against Detroit? Where was the I mean, where was this 235 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 5: when you were playing against the Saints. People can go 236 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 5: back and say, hey, man, y'all had all y'all dogs, 237 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 5: and y'all played against them, and y'all still ended up getting. 238 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: A break speed off of y'all. So why is anything 239 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 1: gonna change? 240 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 5: And I understand, Like for me, I just say, this 241 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 5: team has to be better at pulling in a talented 242 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 5: roster together. That's gonna propel this team to win not 243 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 5: only the NFC East but the NFC and get through 244 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 5: the playoffs to get to a super Bowl, because anything 245 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 5: short of that is gonna be a failure even for 246 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 5: the next coach, because the Cowboy Nation is at the 247 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 5: point now it's like, you don't we don't even dude, 248 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 5: talk to me when the playoffs start. That was the 249 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 5: beginning of the season. Talk to me when the playoff start. 250 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 5: I don't even tell me about what's hater the regular season. 251 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 5: Talk to me when the playoff starts and we're not 252 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 5: even in it. 253 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 4: You know, that's the fan danger of not understanding what 254 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 4: coaches always say that you know, you must start from 255 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 4: the bottom every year. To me, every season is like 256 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 4: trying to climb out. Ever, it takes a long time 257 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 4: to get there, and most people you lose it, you know, 258 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 4: trying to get up to have it got closed. We 259 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: got to go walk all the way back down and 260 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 4: start over again. One of the things about Mike McCarthy 261 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: and also says about Mike Tomlin, when you think about 262 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 4: the dudes they coached, you didn't want a Super Bowl 263 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 4: at Aaron Rodgers, Mike Thomas gone out here and won 264 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: a Super Bowl. Antonio Brown, You're out here with some 265 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 4: dudes that you know, some agendas and some you know, 266 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 4: the fact that you were able to get like it's 267 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 4: like Chuck Day and Phil Jackson coaching Rodman and winning 268 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 4: championships said, yeah, he had this viola but violatile personality 269 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 4: and the quirks that come and figured out a way 270 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 4: to win a championship and get get them to play 271 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 4: at Hall of Fame levels. Antonio Brown, say whatever you 272 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 4: want about his career. 273 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: They got the numbers. 274 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 4: Now there will be a conversation in Canton, Ohio amongst 275 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 4: the writers and the voters about his candidacy. We know 276 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is getting in. There is to me that 277 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 4: I think there's me. I think there is something about 278 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 4: coaches having the ability to coach mercurial and interesting personalities. 279 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 5: Man, that's a statement, because man, I put for me 280 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 5: my opinion of coaches. I put coaches up there with pastors. 281 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 5: Man as far as the and I know these parallels 282 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 5: will never meet. One has a tremendous amount of more 283 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 5: pressure on them as a leading souls to heaven than 284 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 5: a coach does. But I think of what their job 285 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 5: is of taking young men, whether it be a high 286 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 5: school coach, a college coach, forming these guys. I hear 287 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 5: you talk about coaches all the time, the guys that 288 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 5: taught you how to go for being an amateur player 289 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 5: to being a professional, and whether it was a position 290 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 5: coach or whatever, it was those guys that formed who 291 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 5: you are and who you are currently. 292 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: And so that's why when guys go into the Hall 293 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: of Fame, they have coaches present them. 294 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 4: But what you said here does make a lot of 295 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 4: sense because you go back to what Jesus started about. 296 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 4: He said, I'm a teacher. You know, pastors are teachers. 297 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 4: Coaches are teaching absolutely and I and just when I 298 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: have looked at some of the best coaches in history, 299 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 4: I think like Chuck Noele, think about Bill Walsh, they 300 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 4: were actual school teachers. Vince Entbard and they taught school. 301 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: You know, Paul Brown, they actually taught school. And Lloyd 302 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: lesson plans and how to reach people, how to be 303 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 4: in a classroom. I got all these kids, like these 304 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 4: three kids about to cut up, So how do I 305 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 4: deal with them to keep them away from the other 306 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: ones who were trying to learn? And I mean that 307 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 4: all of that it's the same. And I found that 308 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 4: some of the most effective people have been those who 309 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 4: taught in the classroom and have an understanding of educational 310 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 4: systems and different learning stid. I was talking to Dennis 311 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 4: Thurmy one time and he told me in his dB 312 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 4: room he had to figure out how guys learned. Are 313 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: you a visual learner? Are you a person? Can I 314 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 4: draw it on to trouble or do I have to 315 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 4: take you out on the field and show you? And 316 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 4: he said I had to, He said I had to. 317 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: I have as a coach learn what is it my 318 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 4: players need and how did they get it? And then 319 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 4: if I know, Okay, hey, Ed Reid wants it this way. 320 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 4: He talked about that. Now, coach ed this way. Troy 321 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 4: Polamalo needed to see it this way. But what you said, 322 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 4: between pastors and coaches, it's all teaching. 323 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: And his ability. 324 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 5: And you talk mind these moments where they could have 325 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 5: just given up and already put the to loom, got 326 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 5: on their plane first, you know, the first class and 327 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 5: you haven't seen them. Melle it in and and I 328 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 5: think the endorsements when they come from the from the top, 329 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 5: when they come from your top, guys, I think that 330 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 5: says more. Now will that resident Will that resonate with 331 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 5: your fan base? 332 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. 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We're down to 400 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 4: two games, and the odds makers have Josh Allen, quarterback 401 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 4: of Buffalo in the league, with Lamar Jackson behind him. 402 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 4: And this was before the last sides I saw were 403 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 4: before we saw get Busy, Busy, get Busy do his thing. 404 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 4: But one of those signature MVP touch players yesterday, Yeah, 405 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 4: Masso fast So asked Michael, you know on your podcast 406 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 4: you talk about the MVP. Said yeah, yeah. He said 407 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 4: it should be Joe Burrow. He said, but Joe Burrow 408 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 4: doesn't have a top three defense. Except Joe Burrow had 409 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 4: a top three defense, then it'd be different. Uh, And 410 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 4: he said, you know, look at look at the stats. 411 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 4: You know, like right now you talk about offensive leaders. 412 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 4: Right here, you know, Joe Burrow has got four thousand, 413 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 4: two hundred and twenty nine yards. So except man was 414 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 4: he was all about Joe Burrow and what what big 415 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 4: Joe's done? Is she And of course you know he 416 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 4: played against Joe Joe right now with thirty nine touchdowns, 417 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 4: eight interceptions, sacks thirty seven times. Yeah, been killed thirty 418 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 4: some times. Lamar Jackson. Right now, we look over passing 419 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 4: the third and Lamar's got just from a passing standpoint, 420 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 4: Lamar's got thirty nine touchdowns and just past interceptions, Yes, 421 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 4: just passing Alan with twenty five touchdowns and six picks. 422 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: What oh yeah, yeah, hold on. 423 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 4: Twenty six and twenty five, twenty six and six. 424 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: Man twenty six and six to thirty nine. You said 425 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: thirty nine for Lamar. 426 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,479 Speaker 4: Lamar and Joe Burrow, Yes, sir, But if you look 427 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 4: at total tubs for Lamar, he's somewhere like around forty forty. 428 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: Four forty five. Look, man, he's almost a thousand yards 429 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: on the ground. 430 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 6: Come on, the man is doing things that you see 431 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 6: cats doing college against pro athletes out here. I mean, look, granted, 432 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 6: Joe Burrow is having one hell of a year, all right, 433 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 6: they wasted a MVP season because his record isn't what 434 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 6: it is. 435 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 1: So and with all that being said, Lamar still got 436 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: better numbers like that. 437 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 7: To me, this is. 438 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 4: It just just depends how you look at the MVP. 439 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 4: But you look, it's a quarterback award number one. It 440 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: could be award that ship And I just go back 441 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 4: to last year. How many Russian touchdouts do. 442 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: I think Lamar gat at least six for four, So. 443 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 4: He's sitting at forty three total, he's got eight hundred 444 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 4: and fifty two yards rushing. 445 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: He's almost about to be at a thousand Russian damn. 446 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: He could possibly end the year forty eight touchdowns. That is, 447 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: that's where we go down. 448 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 4: I got nine hundred and thirty. 449 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: How many touchdowns one go down? 450 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 4: Nine hundred three? 451 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, Brings should be a little mad about that when 452 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 5: they took him out and put in. But that's another story. 453 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 4: But we said, come on then, come talk to us. 454 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 4: He kept walking. 455 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeahn cook too. Oh yeah, anyway, wow wow wow wow 456 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: yeah you ready, oh ready, Oh that week for good conversation. 457 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: You got a massive argument about him. Anyway, GMG. 458 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 5: Anyway, but last year, last year, we started looking at 459 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 5: these numbers and I brought it the same same situation 460 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 5: talking about Dak and the numbers that he had versus Lamar, 461 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 5: and it's still Lamar ended up winning the MVP, which 462 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 5: is crazy. And I only bring that up because I'm saying, 463 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 5: Josh Allen gonna win the MVP, y'all may as well 464 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 5: forget about it. Nothing short of just going like he 465 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 5: would have to like crash out on National TV at 466 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 5: this point, and I think they'll probably save him from 467 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 5: that if he does, that'll be. 468 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: The only way that he doesn't. I mean, because if 469 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: you look at Josh. 470 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 5: Allen, Okay, Lamar Jackson is gonna get the Derrick Henry debate. 471 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 5: You got Derrick Henry, all right, But Josh, Josh Allen, 472 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 5: you're gonna say you got rid of Diggs. You basically 473 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 5: had a bunch of you two in them possible, you 474 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 5: know those guys, right, And that's where he's going to 475 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 5: get the credit for carrying this team to where they 476 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 5: are right now if you want, man, my honest opinion, 477 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 5: and this is hard for me to say it, but 478 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 5: the job that Sakuon Barkley has done in Philadelphia to me, 479 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 5: that the re emergence of the running back position with 480 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 5: what he's done and the way that he's brought this 481 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 5: offense and Kellen Moore to the point of everybody saying 482 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 5: Keller more than needs a Helicare coaching job, all of 483 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: those things, like he has carried this team at points 484 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 5: in the year that's made the job easier for Jalen Hurts, 485 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 5: even though he has warranted scrutiny in the passing game. 486 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 5: But I think, look, we're going to give it to 487 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 5: a quarterback regardless. But there are guys that absolutely are 488 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 5: the most valuable players on their team. 489 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: And to me, is Saquon Barkley. 490 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 5: Good. 491 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 1: That's ay. But when you talk about Buffalo, I mean, 492 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: what are they? Twelve and three? 493 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 4: Eleven touchdowns rushing? By the way, for josh. 494 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: Alla eleven, Yes, put some respect on his names. 495 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 4: He's still short thirty seven total tubs to Lamar Jackson. 496 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 1: Possibly he could reach the forty five forty he carried. 497 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 4: He's he's carrying Buffalo literally twelve and three. He is 498 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 4: carrying that team. That's what I'm just saying. Like, so 499 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 4: buff Buffalo twelve and three. Baltimore is eleven and five. 500 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 1: But look at what he's looked at the vision he's 501 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: doing it against. 502 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 6: Lamore is in the AFC North, Yeah, you got the Bengals, 503 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 6: the Browns, Brown, You got the Bengals and you got 504 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 6: to still listen there, who's. 505 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: In the Browns? Brown? Yeah, who's in the AFC? 506 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 4: He's got the Miami who's miss Soul, miss Warbacks coach? 507 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: Patriots and the Jets. Yeah, got six wins right there? 508 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 4: New England, New England got three wins, Just got four wins, 509 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 4: and coach got seven. They're all losing team. He looked 510 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 4: Buffalo did do it against Kansas City, but then they 511 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 4: got the doors beat off of them by Baltimore. It's, 512 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 4: by the way, the final two games with Josh and 513 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: the Jets in Miville. 514 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: Right up, four T three, come on back. I don't know, man, 515 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. 516 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 4: He gonna be able to put up some defining He'll 517 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 4: be able to close. 518 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 5: You're gonna have some great he'd have to just he'd 519 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 5: have to come unglued on national television to lose it 520 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 5: at this point and all and my only, my only 521 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 5: case in that I think you make a great case 522 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 5: for the division that he's in. It's light work each 523 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 5: and every week. He's not He's not bothered by the 524 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 5: Jets this matchup. He's not sweating. Whereas Lamar has Pittsburgh, 525 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 5: he has all these other teams that he has to 526 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 5: go against that you know where the pressure is gonna 527 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 5: be coming from. It's the Black and Blue League basically. 528 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 5: But I just meant I am a Josh Allen Scott, 529 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 5: not a hater, but because he thinks every time you 530 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 5: get to throw on those interceptions and like a little. 531 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: Fairy just dropping in on you. And I just feel 532 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: like that about him. 533 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 5: I think he's always been one of those guys that 534 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 5: you put pressure on him, he turns back into who 535 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 5: he is. Something about this season to me, for Josh All, 536 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 5: I've seen something different in them, and he's carrying this team. 537 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 5: He hadn't been recklessly running the ball like he has 538 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 5: been a year's past. He hadn't been putting the ball 539 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 5: in harm's way like he has been in a year's past. 540 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 5: And I think that's something for a guy of his caliber. 541 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 5: You could give it to Patrick Mahomes, You could give 542 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 5: it to Joe Burrow and guys like that each and 543 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 5: every year because the numbers are going to say it, 544 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 5: the way they lead their team is going to say it. 545 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: I just think it's his time right now. 546 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 4: Is this the Michael Jordans Tiger Woods type of debate 547 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 4: where they're so good, they're the best, and you're now 548 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 4: measuring them against themselves, not really so much against other people. 549 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 4: And I felt there was a backlash on Michael for. 550 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: That because he's so good. 551 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 4: Karl Malone did not deserve that last MVP over Michael 552 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 4: damn Way, Magic got an MVP over Michael. What are 553 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 4: we doing? 554 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 555 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 4: And I think it's because he was just that great 556 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 4: and you just wow. I guess well it wasn't why, 557 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 4: but look at what Carl did well. He ended up 558 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 4: his team had the best record in the league, and 559 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 4: you know, I just think that's what can happen you. 560 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 4: I want to call it fatigue as much, but you 561 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 4: you just kind of you're it's tough man when you're here, 562 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 4: and all we want to do is look at and 563 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 4: judge you from this. And I thought Tiger got to 564 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 4: be that same way after a while. Well you know, 565 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 4: it went six this year. That's a career for something, 566 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 4: a career, and it got to that point where you 567 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 4: weren't appreciating the greatness that you saw. Me what Lamar 568 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 4: did the other day on the team in the National 569 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 4: Football League, that's something you do with pee weee. You 570 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 4: don't do that in the league. You know this, Dudes 571 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 4: don't do that, right, I mean, you gotta be all 572 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 4: world Michael Vick fran Target Like, it's like a list 573 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 4: of dudes you can count on a hand that we've 574 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 4: seen do something like that. If Lamar goes in the 575 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. I feel like, that's the play. What's 576 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 4: the play that you put in there? You know that's 577 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 4: the play. 578 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 5: Oh man, it's so many it's so many. Yeah, I mean, 579 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 5: that's just this is my first time seeing him live. 580 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 5: And you know how sometimes you can have an appreciate, 581 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 5: specially basketball players. You see him on television and you 582 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 5: think that you know the game. Then you see him 583 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 5: in person and you're like, damn, what did I just watch? 584 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: What did I Just like? He is so much faster 585 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: in person. You know, you know what people, Oh, you 586 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: look different. 587 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 5: Then I said, you look better in person, and you like, well, 588 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 5: you look better at versus then you do on TV, though, 589 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 5: because that's that's different speed. He cooking with something that 590 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 5: everybody in cooking with. But I think when it comes 591 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 5: down to those NFL purists that love guys that are 592 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 5: able to sit back, read the pocket, go to the 593 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 5: second third, read and then make those phenomenal plays, he doesn't. 594 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 10: Give you that. 595 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 5: He gives you pure raw obtained and that's all you're 596 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 5: gonna get from Lamar. And if you're judging him based 597 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 5: off of that, then that is fine. But at the 598 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 5: level that you're saying, like, you know, the best quarterbacks 599 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 5: to ever play the game. That's why I say guys 600 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 5: like Patrick mahons if you just love the quarterback, play 601 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 5: watch Patrick mahomes man because what he does weekend and 602 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 5: week out is phenomenal. 603 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: Maybe we burnt out on it. 604 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,239 Speaker 4: You're hitting on a point, and I think maybe that's 605 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 4: because you're you're you're you know you do uh, you 606 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 4: do play by playing analysts, you know, watching the dudes, 607 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 4: like watching Kyrie Irving your person, Everyone go see that 608 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 4: because TV doesn't do just it just doesn't do it 609 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 4: justice of what he's done. And Steven Ash. 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That was something 705 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 4: King Griffy junior in baseball. This was in the steroid 706 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 4: there to do. It was up there crushing the ball. 707 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 4: He could hit, he could throw, run, just it just 708 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 4: didn't seem like he was trying. And the hardest sport 709 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 4: there is period he did. Just was just like wow, 710 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 4: he was he was him, as the kids would say, Jordan. 711 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 4: To see everyone in an arena there to see you 712 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 4: do what you do and you do it. That's hard 713 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 4: night after night and not that, not that whole. I'm 714 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 4: all rest today, low management today, night after night after night. 715 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 4: I remembered when he played the first ever game in 716 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 4: Charlotte in nineteen eighty eight, they gave out Michael Jordan 717 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 4: posters in Charlotte and Charlotte. I mean, could you imagine, 718 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 4: you know, the Cowboys given out the opposing team post 719 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 4: on game day? That's first out that Who the hell 720 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 4: does that? That tells you right right, it's Jordan taheel 721 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 4: back in tap And they wanted the buzzer, but I 722 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 4: was say, it's the Michael Jordan. What you always wanted 723 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,479 Speaker 4: was to see Michael score fifty and your team winning 724 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 4: the buzz Yeah, and he did it night after night. Sitensational. 725 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 4: Then Peter Warck, Peter Warick, he he was. Let me 726 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 4: tell you this. It was at the Los Angeles Coliseum 727 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 4: and they played USC. Peter Warck of Florida State, and 728 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 4: Walter Jones, but mainly Peter because you just like he's different. 729 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 4: There were so many dudes, because Walter Jones ended up 730 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 4: being a Hall of Fame left tackle for the Seahawks, 731 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 4: but there was so much tap. Chris Winky ended up 732 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 4: winning the Heisman. You saw him, he was the best players. 733 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 4: Chris Klaib won sc was the Buckets Award. When Brian 734 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 4: Kelly ended up being a dB that won a championship 735 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 4: with Tampa. There was so much talent on the field 736 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 4: out there were so many Scots there, and that was 737 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 4: the best player. You just like, heck me, you've seen 738 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 4: this covering high schools again. Oh yeah. He different didn't 739 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 4: have the career in the NFL that you thought he 740 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 4: would because he went to Cincinnati where careers can go 741 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 4: to die. But watching that guy, if I had, if 742 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 4: I had stock and Peter work out of bought a 743 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 4: bunch because I just said him, I'm gonna do that thing. Gosh, 744 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 4: he was amazing to watch. 745 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: I was like, remember when him and Vic went at 746 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: it in a national championship. That was crazy. 747 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 4: But really I mean it was two dudes of Florida 748 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 4: State that I saw, Like with him and the Dion. 749 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 4: I remember the Dion punt against Clemson. You're too young, 750 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 4: yeah yeah, And I want to say it was like 751 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 4: eighty seven or eighty eight where Dion walks in Death 752 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 4: Valley and he'd like, tell the crops coming back, and 753 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 4: we just wanted the Wildlight's coming back. Caught it went, 754 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 4: took it back and the da the hot This was 755 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 4: when like that it was created right there, what I 756 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 4: mean it was, It was sensational. Man, It was sensational. 757 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 4: And one of my teammates was being recruited by Clinton. Heck, 758 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 4: he was there and he said Danny Ford threw everybody 759 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 4: out the locker room, including the recruit Everybody get out. 760 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: He was because they thought they had the game. 761 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 10: One. 762 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 4: Dion Randy back and say, man, Dion is yeah, man, 763 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 4: everybody get out. The guys he was special. 764 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: Man, who is your guy? 765 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 4: I got three of them and let's stick all with football. 766 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 4: But I got to play against these guys one and 767 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 4: just see. You got to see him on the field, man, 768 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 4: that's that's Mega Tron Calvin Johnson, and I got to 769 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,479 Speaker 4: see him multiple times in my career. 770 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 5: This dude, he was. 771 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 6: I mean, there's one play in the back of it. 772 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 6: First of all, Stafford just throws the ball up in 773 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 6: the air from the fifty yard line. This dude, he's 774 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 6: standing flat footed and its surrounded by myself, Malcolm Jenkins, 775 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 6: Andre not Malcolm, Mike Jenkins, and Sean Lee. 776 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 4: All three of us are right in front of box 777 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 4: him out. This dude just throws a prayer up in 778 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 4: the air, and I get that. We're all holding onto 779 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 4: this man before he takes off. All three of us 780 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 4: grabbed him. This dude just vertical jumps with all three 781 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 4: of us on them, snags it over all of us 782 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 4: and just looking down as he's coming down from it 783 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 4: from the heights, just looking down at all of us. 784 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 6: Land and we kind of just fall off him, like 785 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 6: snow if he just fell or something. We just looking 786 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 6: at this dude just I'm like, Oh, this dude is different. 787 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 6: Forward later on he catches a slant and I'm like, oh, 788 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 6: I give it to this dude. I put everything I 789 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 6: had into this hit against Calvin, everything I had. He 790 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 6: didn't go down, but I separated my shoulder and I 791 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 6: was out the rest of the game. And I'm just like, 792 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 6: this dude is really like when you hit him, it's 793 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 6: literally like hitting steel. And the way he was able 794 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 6: to move that fast in person, you just you just 795 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 6: had to see it. 796 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: So it was him. 797 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 4: The other guy I got a chance to play against 798 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 4: Adrian Peterson when he was in Minnesota. 799 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 6: It was just a different cat. I mean every time 800 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 6: you collided against him, it was like a car collision. 801 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 6: I Mean it was ridiculous. So that dude was awesome. 802 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 6: But then the quarterback, the best quarterback I've ever played against. 803 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 6: It was Peyton Manning. I know, you know, got Tom 804 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 6: Brady out there, you got all of this, But just 805 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 6: from a cerebral standpoint, what he was able to do 806 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 6: at a line of scrimmage was crazy. I mean, this 807 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 6: is when he was at the first time going to Denver, 808 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 6: at the height of his power. I think he threw 809 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 6: like fifty five touchdowns. But we're going against him and 810 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 6: he's calling out stuff that like like he was in 811 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 6: the locker room with us, Like he was in the 812 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 6: room with us going through this. He's all right, this 813 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 6: guy's coming from this end. All right, he's gonna fake 814 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,439 Speaker 6: and then drop out this way. We got discoverage coming 815 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 6: and exactly what we were doing. And it was just 816 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,840 Speaker 6: remarkable how he was able to do that. Man, smartest 817 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 6: dude I ever got a chance to talk to or 818 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 6: play against. 819 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: Man. It was ridiculous. 820 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 4: Is that the game that was. 821 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: Here and he was going back and forth. It was 822 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: like the fifty nine and then he ends the game. 823 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,479 Speaker 4: Remember heck, so Peyton is on one, Romo throws a pick, 824 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 4: so they get the ball, they run the clock out, 825 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 4: and then just basically it. 826 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 10: Was a. 827 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 4: Third down play. He did the quarterbacks. Nobody, nobody thought 828 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 4: this was coming. And what did he call it at 829 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 4: the line of because. 830 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: He knew he was. 831 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 4: And when I got to talk to Ronnie him and 832 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 4: or whoever I think was the back of the time, Yeah, 833 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 4: he was like, man, look, I was supposed to get 834 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 4: that rock. 835 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: He was like everybody in there huddle knew that. 836 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 6: All right, Ryan's gonna get this ball, gonna try to 837 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 6: pound and then man, that dude just then the. 838 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 1: Way he faked it and went around on the outside, 839 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: he was like this, He's the smartest dude on the 840 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,320 Speaker 1: football for I ever win again. Whatever. 841 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 4: Man, he a big dude too. 842 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 5: That's a big dude his head by two feet. But 843 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 5: I can't talk about it nobody, but my two guys 844 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 5: been quickly. Is Kobe Bryant number one? 845 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:49,959 Speaker 1: Uh? Seeing Kobe live? 846 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you see guys take jumpers and 847 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 5: some guys are you know, they'll come about this far 848 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 5: off the ground. Kobe was shooting shot and shooting jump 849 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 5: and he comes you know hot, I mean, and being 850 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 5: I was down on the court, I could see, you 851 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 5: know how he was shooting that jumper and just man, 852 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 5: over and over he seeing him before he came onto 853 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 5: the court before. You know, in pregame warm ups, how 854 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 5: many jumpers and this the preparation for a player, And 855 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 5: then seeing him play live, man, it was it was 856 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 5: next world. But Emmy Smith second, I Emmett in his 857 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 5: playing days didn't look like the fastest guy. Nobody ever 858 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 5: caught him, but watching him live and you're sitting there 859 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 5: and you're like, man, these guys are trying to. 860 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 4: Take his head off and they can't. 861 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 5: They can't, and he's I mean, he's doing things I 862 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 5: never get, Like he'd be at the coming through the 863 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 5: line of scrimmage and he'd have his handle his knocking 864 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 5: guy's hands down. I mean, it's the damnedest thing to 865 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 5: watch live seeing Emmi Smith. But obviously, you know, the 866 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 5: rushing champion in the NFL, one of the best all time. 867 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 5: You know, it only makes sense now when when I'm 868 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 5: talking about those two guys that end up being two 869 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 5: of the best at their profession. 870 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 4: The first time I saw Emmitt Smith, it was on 871 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 4: most of the CBS game he was in college, freshman 872 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 4: against Alabama. And the last person I saw tear up 873 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 4: Alabama like that was Bo Jackson, and it was a 874 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 4: freshman who is who who is this? 875 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: Who is right? 876 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 4: Gatorade played it? Okay, fine, you know national player, Fine, 877 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 4: but you don't do this. Alabama. He did that, and 878 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 4: I remember the Cowboys drivers like yeahah, he's good, he's good. 879 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 11: You know. 880 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 4: I remember Blair Thomas was the number one back. He 881 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 4: took out the Jets like second overall out of Penn State. 882 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 4: But I'm like, man, this guy can play cowboy like this. 883 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 4: Just dude. I saw what he did Alabama and you 884 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 4: don't do that to Alabama is a freshman, he's he 885 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 4: you talk about people Wo've been him for a long Yeah, 886 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 4: since he was playing in Escambia and in Pensacol for 887 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 4: Emtt Smith has been that guy. 888 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 1: He's gonna do your You're gonna do your Dallas cowboy 889 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 1: m v P mhm. 890 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 4: It's CD Brandon Aubrey's had a fantastic It's Lamb, I 891 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 4: mean Ceedee Lamb from from Dak Prescott who did not 892 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 4: have it before Dak Mndanney was not having a good year. 893 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 4: It's not having a good year. And he's out here 894 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 4: catching Boston Cooper rush with half half a shoulder, half 895 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 4: a good shoulder with no help. Ceedee Lamb. I mean 896 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 4: it's it's a tremendous I'm with. 897 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: You on that one, Ceedee Lamb for so man, Brandon Aubrey, Brandon. 898 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 5: Brandon Aubrey is a bonafide weapon. And you just go 899 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 5: back to the Tampa game. If you can't hit fifty 900 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 5: eight yarders. I mean the Cowboys have one games going 901 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 5: back to last season because of Brandon Aubrey and not 902 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 5: even absolutely not even realizing the range that this guy has. 903 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 5: I mean, he's one of those players we were just 904 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 5: talking about a couple of days ago when I see 905 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 5: somebody miss a fifty eight yard and I'm like, oh, 906 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 5: he ain't even hit the gopos. That's not normal, Like 907 00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 5: we're used to something that's not normal. That's the contrayt. 908 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 5: Then I'm man, when that one comes down, when that contract. 909 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 4: Right there, Bro, I can see your point. And it 910 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,000 Speaker 4: kind of like reminds me of of of Baseball voting, 911 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 4: where it's like, can you make a picture in m 912 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 4: v P. 913 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 5: You know. 914 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 4: You need guys like CD Lamb making the place to 915 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 4: get yourself in that range, Yes, sir, And and when 916 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 4: I just think about how bad this receiving court is, Yeah, 917 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 4: that hey, man, anybody defensively as double is. Dude, he's 918 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 4: still getting the numbers and makes sense historic numbers that 919 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 4: he's on right now. 920 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: And Cooper Rush is his quarterback on top of that. Yeah, man, 921 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,439 Speaker 1: that's easy choice. You're not wrong. 922 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's the that's really the If there's 923 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 5: anything that that separates him is the fact that defensive 924 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 5: coordinators come in and say, we got to take this 925 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 5: one guy away, and he's still putting up the number. 926 00:46:54,080 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 4: October commut James Brooks beat said by Kettle Kettles refer Hey, guys, 927 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 4: come on now, this is the day after Christmas. Merry Christmas, Harrison. 928 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: Day. Course, come on now, I'll tell you what man 929 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: he had. 930 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 4: He had a tremendous first step, a tremendous first step. 931 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 4: Harrison Sperry Church in New Austria, Chrispine Jazz, everybody here, players, 932 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 4: let's talk to you tomorrow right here down. 933 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 2: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 934 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 2: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club