WEBVTT - Change Your Life With Gabby Bernstein (Part Two) 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:06.320 Welcome everyone to the Amy and TJ Podcast. Amy Robot 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:09.440 here along with my partner TJ. Holmes, and we're continuing 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:12.800 our conversation with New York Times best selling author and 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:15.040 self help guru Gabby Bernstein. 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:17.480 We are lucky enough to be sitting here in New 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.200 York having this conversation right now. And we three of 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:23.479 us have had different journeys, but it wasn't always a 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:26.319 pleasant one. But we're sitting here in New York and 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:28.880 but blessed folks. But there are so many folks in 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:31.760 the country who are who will listen to this conversation 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:33.479 and go, how am I supposed to do that? I'm 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:35.800 under constant assault because I'm just trying to put food 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.080 on the table. I'm under constant assault because I'm trying 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.880 to get my kid to a decent school. For those 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.600 folks who maybe don't feel like they have the time, 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:48.160 the energy, they just this cannot be the focus because 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:53.920 they're in survival mode, literal survival. What can you advise 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.640 with these same tools for folks who might be thinking 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:58.440 I can't do this, I ain't got time for this. 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.360 Yeah, I mean simple refrain, right, So I choose to 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.520 see my obstacles as opportunities to leave me in the 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:07.120 right direction, or obstacles are detours in the right direction. 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:11.520 When we're in crisis, sometimes the simplest thing we can 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:15.959 do is pray, is to set an intention. You know, Universe, 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.680 guide me, I turn this over. I don't know the answer, 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.200 show me the way, whether to what to pray to Grandma, 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.000 pray to God, pray to the universe, pray to your 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.520 inner wisdom. I don't care who you pray to. Just 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:34.559 just pray, asking for a guided, a guided, intuitive next step. 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:38.199 Because it's in those times of crisis where we need 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:42.959 this work most, because that's when that's actually and it's 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.320 also oftentimes in times of crisis where it works the 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:49.480 best because there's this beautiful roomy quote when the wound 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.080 is the place where the light enters you. And so 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:56.120 if you notice, Okay, I'm in a stuck moment right now, 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.760 I'm feeling completely out of alignment or that this isn't working, 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:05.880 that's sometimes where that that cracking point can enter. I 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.520 think that the time that it takes can't be something 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.280 that stops you, because this is a shift in your 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:16.920 thinking doesn't take time right your your your reconditioning of 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:21.480 your mind doesn't have to take time. There's I have 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.200 a lot of free meditations out there. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.720 One would be what what would what would be a 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:32.520 go to r L the just free Deergaby dot com 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:38.519 slash free meditations plural Yeah, Deargabby dot com slash free meditations, 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:44.200 And that is a place to start. Just listening to 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:48.799 my voice, listening to to to even just someone's podcasts, 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:52.480 just listening to something that's going to just change your mind. Now, 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.160 we can always look at people in those moments of 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:01.639 crisis and say one we can say yet, for those 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.760 of us who are not in crisis, we have to 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.880 get to work on behalf of those who are. Okay, 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:08.840 So those of us who have the privilege to be 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:10.600 able to be here in this great studio in New 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.320 York City and have our green teas and whatever is 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:17.600 going on, it's our responsibility to get it together for 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.960 the people who don't have the same privileges. Because when 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.280 we get it together, we bring a higher vibration. That 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:26.240 higher vibration starts to affect everybody around us. You guys 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.360 are affecting millions of people. Your high vibration energy is 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.840 having a ripple effect throughout the world. Even the person 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:34.520 that you smile to on the street or the person 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.840 that you respond to in a direct message. These are 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.760 moments that could change someone's life. So the world does 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.280 not have the privilege of having their green tea and 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.480 sitting in iHeartRadio. But what those of us who do 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.640 have to get to work and those of us who don't, 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.800 may they find sparks of light along the way. 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.360 TJ talks about this all the time, but just yes, 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.120 taking that time to write a note to Smoddy when 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.720 you're thinking about them. Don't understand or you don't realize 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.440 perhaps the ripple. 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:04.000 Effect of that. 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:08.280 But you talk a lot about vibrations and the energy 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.400 you put out, it absolutely comes back to you and 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.080 choosing to how do you tell yourself in a moment 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.000 when you don't feel like you are in a good 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:20.479 place or your energy isn't positive, how do you get 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.480 out of that and create? Can you force yourself into 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:27.280 a higher vibration if you're feeling that lower vibration like 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.240 I don't care, I don't wanna, this is awful? How 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.880 do you bring yourself into a higher vibration? 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.160 I would never say force yourself but you can guide yourself. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.720 So there's noticing that I'm in this negative thought and 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.520 then choosing the next best feeling thought. This is the 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.640 choose again method, which is, Okay, I'm in a really 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:48.640 low place, but what's the next best feeling thought. And 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:52.120 it could be that, you know, I have I have 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:56.280 a coffee break, or I have access to this, to 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.280 this podcast that I can listen to that's going to 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.440 make me feel better. I can actually move my body 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:04.039 right now, or I can go call a friend and 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.480 that might make me feel better. And just reaching and 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.680 thinking your way out, because you know, in my book 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.200 Add More ang to Your Life, which is my first book, 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:16.520 was in her guidance, I had this, I started channel 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.039 I'm a channel, so I started I can sort of 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.599 call it energy of the spiritual space. And so I 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.520 started channeling and Frank at the end of this thing, 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.440 and I started seeing Anne Frank with she was in 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.680 the closet, and I started just feeling her presence. And 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:33.040 so I closed the book with this story about Anne 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.680 Frank how she was in you know, in hiding from 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:40.040 the Nazis, and she was thinking her way out and 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.840 she was sort of visioning, like where the daffodils were 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.680 were in the park and she would think her way out. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.359 And the message in that chapter was like, if in 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:52.680 the most dire circumstances, like hiding for your life, not 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.560 being able to speak all day, move all day, and 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.080 you can think your way out, that's the power of 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:02.000 our mind. And so I think that it's about being 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.560 in the practice of this when things are good, so 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.080 that when things are tough you have more access to it. 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:09.080 Can you just briefly, and maybe for me and a 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.040 lot of the people listening, you will refer so much 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.960 to low and high vibration, just explain what you mean 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:14.560 when we say that. 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:18.719 Yeah, I think that when we have a repeated negative belief, 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:22.240 that's just going, going, going, it's making us feel terrible. 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:23.920 I mean, just think about it. Think about the negative 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.040 stories that you guys have on Loop in general, and 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.719 how's that working out for you? Right? Is that making 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:30.679 you feel good? Is it making you feel more connected 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.400 to people? Is it helping you attract more of what 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:33.320 you want into your life? 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:33.640 No? 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:39.480 No, no, So when we start to not just override 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.320 the thoughts like that's why I like the four step 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.400 check in because that's like befriending the thought. It's giving 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.359 the thought a little bit of love. It's saying I 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.800 see you're there. I don't want to push you away. 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.400 I'm not trying to judge you for being there. I'm 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.480 just saying, Okay, let's check in so that you can 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.680 alchemize a little bit and then I can come out 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.840 and feel a little bit different. And then also some 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.400 of it's just habitual, right, it's just okay, that's a 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:06.040 storyline I've had for forty five years, Gabby Bernstein. Let 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:09.760 me change that around. And it's choosing a different thought 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.200 and catching yourself in the moment. 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.120 It's so empowering, and I have to I do have 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.960 to revisit it because it's not something that we all 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.160 slip into. And you even said you do as well 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:25.520 into these negative patterns. I wanted you, if you would, 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:31.760 to explain angel numbers and signs and why they're a 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.600 part of your practice, because that is where some people say, come. 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:39.720 On, yeah, Well, we're always being guided and it's just 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.840 our choice to choose to see that guidance and follow 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:48.320 that guidance. It's always there. We have ancestors, we have guides, 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.760 we have a team of guides, spiritual guides that are 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.240 there to support us and guide us and watch over 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.640 us and direct us and inspire us and put us 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.240 in the right position and open invisible doors for us. 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:00.200 It's just that some of people are tuned off it 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.880 and some people are turned in, tuned into it. And 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.120 it's our job as someone who's open, to tune on, 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.680 to tune in, to tune in, and just to ask 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.440 and to receive. And so one of the great ways 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.080 to get that connection from guides is to ask for 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.360 a sign. And you could ask for a sign that 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:18.880 I'm on the right track. You could ask for a 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.400 sign that the guides are with you. You could ask for 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.760 a sign that this is the choice that you're making 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.960 is the right choice. And so I've got all kinds 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.160 of signs that have followed me around. And recently I 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:30.440 was like, you know, I'm going to give the universe 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.760 a little bit of a curveball. I want rainbow unicorns. 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.800 And let me tell you something about rainbow unicorns. All 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.560 day we've been seeing rainbow unicorns. Like the whole we 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.760 walked by a Fio Schwortz. It was like this huge 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:46.080 rainbow unicorn in the window. You know, it's just there everywhere. 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.000 So you open your and then the next thing, I 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.160 see a toy with the rainbow unicord. Now is fao schworts. 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.320 It's easier to find rainbow unicorns. But but it was 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.560 just in my face, and it's up to you to ask, 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.320 and it's up to you to witness and receive. 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.240 Well, is that the key right there? Is? Is it 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.400 really a matter? I guess it's a balance. The universe 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.040 sends something your way, or you put that own thought 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.840 in your mind to now you have a different awareness. 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.199 Are we talking about it? It's a little bit of both, 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:14.920 because I might have passed seven rainbow unicorns on the 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.800 way here, but I wasn't thinking about it. Now that 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.359 I am, I'm going to see them all in your consciousness. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:23.040 But there also is spiritual guidance that's being planted in 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:24.840 front of you. So that's when you see eleven eleven, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:26.440 or you see three three three or four four four, 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.480 you see those numbers in sequence, it's your guide saying 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:33.520 wake up, I'm here. You know, there's there's so many 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.520 moments where that kind of guidance just plants itself in 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.680 my face, and it's undeniable. 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.040 I feel the same way, Gabby, the same way. 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.480 I did an entire podcast episode on my show Deer 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.360 Gaby where I was literally telling like six stories in 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.120 a row of just these incredible moments of when the 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.000 universe would just plant itself in my face. 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:53.280 We should do that episode. 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:56.440 I think we should because it's interesting. Well, I was 0:09:56.440 --> 0:10:00.920 explaining to him. I was literally at across and I said, 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.040 I want to know that I'm on the right path 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.520 and when I am and when I'm thinking things I 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:09.040 would love to see. I know, red cardinals are that rare, 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.280 but living in the city, I turn the corner within 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.240 five minutes and I said this to my best friend NICKI. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.199 I turned the corner and it wasn't actually a cardinal. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.000 It was a leftover Christmas decoration of a red cardinal 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:20.959 that was stuck to a window that I had never 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:22.600 noticed before that I found and I was like, are 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.880 you kidding signed, So it wasn't even a bird. I 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.240 was thinking, I was asking to see a bird I see, 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:28.960 and I was just like, You've got to be kidding me, 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:30.280 And then it just went on and on and on 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.120 and so sometimes when I'm feeling frustrated or scared or 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.199 fearful or I don't know if what I'm doing is right. 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.040 I will literally see a red cardinal. 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:48.120 Just when I need to and. 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.360 It's the craziest thing. And he's seen me and he's. 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:54.280 Like he can't. That made you emotional, Yeah, which is 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:58.600 a sign too. So the emotions that you're feeling, are 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:03.880 you feeling a genuine connection to your guides? Yeah, and 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:04.840 that's what's undenied. 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.520 I agree, And I do think that in addition to 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.520 just being obviously intelligent about making good choices, I do 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.760 think that when you can lean on a higher power, 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:17.520 and again, whatever you call that higher power, it is 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.360 a little bit about surrender as well and letting the 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.719 road take you. And it's not where we thought we 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:24.440 were going to end up, and it's not how we 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.160 thought we were going to get there. And look, here 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:27.760 we are in the studio with you in a way 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:29.560 that I couldn't have imagined. When I was on Good 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.480 Morning America, you came on, and I believe Robin got 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.440 to do the interview with you, and I was in 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.840 the background, and I was so for some reason, I 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.000 didn't get up get to come meet you or talk 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.200 to you, but I so wanted I wished I could 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:42.800 have done the interview, and I so wanted to be 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.880 able to have a long conversation with you because of 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:47.400 how much your books have meant to me. 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:48.760 And look here we. 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.280 Are now in the studio having an amazing amount of 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.800 time to really get into Yes it's not just a 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.520 four minute quick hit on Good Morning America about your 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.160 latest book, but actually getting to hear how you think 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.920 and why you've come to this place and how you've 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.480 been able to spread this message. That is a blessing 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.240 that I couldn't have imagined the road that got me. 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:10.640 Here, and that we can now exchange phone numbers of 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.679 your friends. Yes, exactly exactly, we're friends. Exactly if us 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:16.680 our spiritual running buddies. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:17.920 We're not friends or my therapist. 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.800 It's a friend for all my friends. I'm there for 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:25.240 them in that way and not being there for me too, 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:25.959 So watch out. 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:31.440 I also want to say congratulations because you are about 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:36.120 to celebrate twenty years sober. That is no small feat. 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:42.280 No small thing, but it's also what has my sobriety was. 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.079 I was talking to a psychic friend recently and she said, 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.920 you almost lost your You almost were taken twice and 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.440 I was like, what do you mean, and she said 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.520 from seventeen to twenty four. And I could put the 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.480 twenty four together because at twenty four was when I 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.439 was using drugs and alcohol, and at that shit the 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.120 stage right before I was twenty five, I chose to 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.200 get clean and sober, and so it was a month 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:06.040 before I turned twenty five, and so that was That 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.440 was in two thousand and five, and I made the 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.720 commitment to get sober. So that I understood, and I 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.320 was like, what was the other one? She said, you 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:14.959 may not know, but your guide saved you from something. 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:16.640 I was like, holy shit, So that's an interesting thing. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:17.960 She said, you'll see it at the end of your 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:19.720 life when you do like your review. I was like, 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.440 oh right, so this is stuff. I'm like, even more 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.640 out there for me. I was like, that's amazing. But 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.000 the but that was a huge turning point for me. 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:32.200 It was a turning point for me. I had this 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.840 this this psychic reading that someone had given me. It 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.160 was on a cassette tape because this is two thousand 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.280 and five, and I was sitting in my car and 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.840 I had it on repeat and I would just replay 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:45.280 this cassette tape over and over like rewind with play, 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.920 rewind play, and it was this voice of this woman 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:51.200 and she said, you're struggling with drugs and alcohol. And 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.120 I could hear my voice quivering, and I was like, 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.240 it's not that bad, It's just not that bad. And 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:57.960 she said, you have two choices in this lifetime. You 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:01.440 can stay on this destructive path then you could it 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.480 could be really bad, or you can get clean and 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.199 make a major impact on the world. And it makes 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:08.960 me very emotional just to say that to you guys. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.480 And it was maybe a month later that I was 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.880 just on my knees in my studio apartment, just praying 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:17.640 for a miracle and actually heard an inner voice say, 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:19.720 get sober and you will live a life beyond your 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.240 wildest dreams. And it's almost twenty years now that we're here. 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:24.040 Wow. 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.320 And that was the catalyst for me to say to 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:31.760 say a wholehearted hell yes to my spiritual path, a 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.000 hell yes to my purpose, which was to be a 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:40.160 rock and tour for miracles and for transformation and for healing. 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.400 And it was and it was a huge turning point 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.800 in my life. I feel right now at this twenty 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.360 year mark of my sobriety. I'm actually at another turning 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:53.200 point where I don't even get believe that the message 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.400 I'm here to carry has even begun. I don't even 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.240 believe it's begune. I think that I'm seeing down this 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:03.560 barrel almost of just just some tough stuff coming to us. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.560 And I know that these kinds of conversations are going 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:10.160 to be the most important conversations that the world has 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.160 right now. So God bless you both for doing this, 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.680 and I just hear it so loud, so I feel 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.440 that this twenty year mark is just another turning point 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.080 to say, let's get to work, let's carry this message 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:25.280 gets empower people to heal themselves so that they can 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.320 be there for the others, because we're all going to 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:27.920 need that help. 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.000 Do you ever feel pressure in your purpose because this 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.280 has blown up in a way that maybe, yes, you 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.400 imagine and you say, we're just getting started by scratching 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:37.400 the surface. But to hear, folks, I'm sure you hear 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.120 it all the time, like Robot talking about how much 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:42.280 you have changed lives, you literally have with what you've done. 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.400 But I know, I know you're overjoyed to be able 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.760 to do it, and I know, you feel some responsibility, 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.720 but that purpose does pressure come with it? Now that 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.720 there's so many people who in a way depend on you. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.560 Right now, I feel an urgency. I don't know that 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:00.640 it's pressure, but an urgency that I have to to 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.440 to soften at times because I don't want it to 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.960 get in the way. But it is a spiritual urgency 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.680 of like it's a psychic urgency of like gotta get 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.840 we gotta get carry the message we got to you know. 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.760 So so I'm showing up in this you know, show 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.040 me what to do, and I'm coming here and I'm 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.400 doing these these interviews or whatever it is. But I 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:23.320 am feeling a sense of urgency to make sure that 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.120 that this message, that these messages are widely spread in 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:28.680 a way. Whether it's me or somebody else, I don't care. 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.240 There's beautiful teachers out there. But no matter what, the 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:34.440 teaching has to be real. It has to be authentic. 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.320 It has to be backed with truth. It can't be 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.080 some TikTok viral moment. Those are fun, but the the 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:42.920 and that may be a way you get through to somebody, 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.920 but the but but behind it has to be truth. 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.560 And I just I just feel the urgency A little 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.400 bit right now, a lot right now. 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:56.720 I I love so many of your quotes, as I 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.520 pointed out, but this one really speaks to me. The 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:05.280 very second we choose a loving thought, our emotion shift 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.720 and our energy changes. This is realignment with the universe. 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:15.720 Yes, yes, yes, nailed it. You just nailed it with 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:19.760 my quote. But the point is that's that's it. 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.280 It only like I say, only it's hard to do 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.280 in the moment, but when you're in this place, if 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:29.960 you just choose a loving thought, everything changes in your mind, 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.800 in your body, in your energy, and it really just 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:35.879 takes that decision. 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.439 It's a choice. That's why I always say, you know, 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.240 your happiness is a choice that you make, and people 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.840 be like, you know, screw you, that's that's too easy, 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.879 and it's not. It's it's am I gonna choose? And 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.120 it doesn't have to be like you're going from I'm 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.600 in despair to I'm the happiest person in the world. 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.520 It's reaching for the next best feeling emotions. So I'm 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.879 in despair, and it's it's a simple thought of you know, 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.359 I'm gonna say a prayer right now, I'm gonna I'm 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:03.119 gonna set an intention to seek support. I'm going to 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.199 place my hand on my heart and say I love you. 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.119 I'm going to look in the mirror and say I 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:12.520 need help. Those are loving thoughts. The miracle is the 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:16.720 shift in our perception, and that shift is going from 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:21.680 a fear based worldview to a spirit based view that's 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:26.119 aligned with spiritual connection, with universal love with God, whatever 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:27.000 you choose to believe in. 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.520 Can I ask prayer? People hear that and say, well, 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.400 that's reserved for religious folks who are going to church 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.800 and they pray to God and they're usually praying for something. 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.760 Can you expound a little bit about prayer and what 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:39.679 do you mean by it? 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.359 Yeah, and it's really beautiful because oftentimes I might not 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.760 even say the word prayer unless I'm in with people 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.600 like you who can hear it. But I'd like to 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.959 expand the spiritual lexicon because i think it's helpful for folks. Right, 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.880 So maybe you could say intention, or you could say 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.840 just you know, shift your thought or give it over 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:02.000 rather than hold on so tightly the word. Another nice thing, too, 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.240 is my work's totally non denominational. You know, I'm a 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.879 nonpracticing Jewish. Well, I'm a Jewish, but I'm not religious, 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:11.800 and I don't identify specifically with religion so much unless 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.160 and I love religion for folks if it guides them 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:17.119 towards spirit, if it guides them to a spiritual relationship, 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:21.280 to community, to love. Anything other than that, I don't. 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.879 I mean, that's just fear right. And so when it 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:29.359 comes for me to talking about prayer, I'd love to 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:33.160 just offer it up as a moment to shift your thinking, 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:37.359 an opportunity to give over to a higher power of 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:40.199 your own understanding. And if the word prayer is too 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:42.720 much for somebody, just set an intention to say, I 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.280 choose to see this differently. I choose to see this 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.480 through the lens of love. I choose to see a 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:52.920