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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome in side hour too the Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 1: with my best friend Mike Harmon, where we could be

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Speaker 1: on the cusp of the last couple of minutes of

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers' NFL career. The Texans are in the end

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Speaker 1: zone again and now it's just a matter of waiting

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Speaker 1: out these last three and a half minutes before the

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Speaker 1: Texans book their visit to New England next week. Twenty

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Speaker 1: four to six, three and a half left to go.

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Speaker 1: Rogers sack and fun Texans return for a touchdown. Really

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Speaker 1: the big domino that fell that really clinched this game

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Speaker 1: for Houston, but they hold the Steelers. The next time

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Speaker 1: they get the football, Steelers punt, Texans take it down

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Speaker 1: and get in the end zone. So this might be

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Speaker 1: the last three and a half minutes of Aaron Rodgers' career.

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Speaker 3: And he'll go to the podium and he'll have some

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Speaker 3: wonderful things to say about the officiating. I know, question

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Speaker 3: about it. Plenty of videos circulating about his opinions and

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Speaker 3: evaluations of his teammates efforts tonight. But look, this game's

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Speaker 3: not over. Mike Tomlin's really good at coming back late

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Speaker 3: in playoff games with a deficit. M Yeah, unless he's not. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's not Rogers specific.

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Speaker 1: That.

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Speaker 3: No, let's rab a lot of quarterbacks. We had it

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Speaker 3: from Steve de Sager. We'd seen it as part of

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Speaker 3: the broadcast, a little bit of well he's one in

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Speaker 3: ten lee trailing at halftime. That win came all the

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Speaker 3: way back, well when the Bears at last won a

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Speaker 3: playoff game in twenty tens.

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Speaker 1: Oh, going all the way back now before we get

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Speaker 1: to the Bears, because we had we got some great

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Speaker 1: stuff with the Bears again, three and a half minutes

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Speaker 1: left to go and the Steelers getting the football back,

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Speaker 1: and you see that sack that Aaron Rodgers took, the

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Speaker 1: one that look controversial because it should not have been

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. He gets hitting the helmet very first contact

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Speaker 1: by the Texans defensive line hits him in the helmet,

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Speaker 1: the ball comes out. It should have been fifteen yards

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Speaker 1: and the Steeler first down. I don't know that would

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Speaker 1: have changed anything, but instead of a touchdown, it would

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Speaker 1: have been the Steelers ball near midfield. But that play

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Speaker 1: yet another play where Rogers gets sacked and his helmet

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Speaker 1: moves around and his eyes are all different places, Like

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Speaker 1: I just tweeted out a screen grab that's gonna wind

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Speaker 1: up being the moment that Aaron Rodgers decided to retire,

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Speaker 1: Like okay, what moment is gonna that moment right there?

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Speaker 1: Because I said it last week. This is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a game. Rogers is gonna face the Texans offensive. Go man,

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Speaker 1: this Texas defensive go well, I want no part of

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Speaker 1: this anymore. I want absolutely no part. And that play

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Speaker 1: that's the retiring moment for Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: But you're also not gonna get any modicum of protection

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Speaker 3: in terms of how the rules are adjudicated. Like wait,

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Speaker 3: it's also open season, ony, Yeah, I'm not even gonna

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Speaker 3: get the fifteen yard penalty out of this. They get

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Speaker 3: the seven points. And I don't even get the satisfaction

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Speaker 3: of this being called a penalty. No, no, no, no, that's

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Speaker 3: a whole other thing. And we watched him the quick

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Speaker 3: release all season long, the yards per pass attempt, the

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Speaker 3: air yards intent. Today it's under two yards unattempt. He's

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Speaker 3: I actually could still throw the ball that far. We

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Speaker 1: So we'll have more on this game upon us illusion again.

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Speaker 1: Still a little bit over three minutes left to go.

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Speaker 1: Steelers have the football down twenty four to six. Texans

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Speaker 1: we had a great moment this weekend. Well, we had

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Speaker 1: And number one, there was a time when I thought

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, he must be dead.

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Speaker 1: I need to contact his family and tell him they

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Speaker 1: Mike Harmon. Sorry about that, but I'll get your belongings.

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Speaker 3: how old am I now? Yeah, fifty fifty two. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: it's been blank the Packers ever since I was But

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Speaker 3: your Bears age is ninety six. Oh yeah, no, I've

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Speaker 3: but I mean I've held up quite nicely. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Hey, butthusla But all of it to say, we were

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Speaker 3: early show. I'm really not drinking at all. So we've

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Speaker 3: think i'd be that prophetic. No, you're right.

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Speaker 1: Hey, look, And as great as the game went, the

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Speaker 1: he thinks of the Packers and this rivalry between both teams.

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Speaker 1: After coming from behind to beat them, he's in the

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Speaker 1: which is like, wow, that's awesome. Now I don't know

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's gonna go listen, listen. I have a lot

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Speaker 1: best to meet. No, no, no, Ben Johnson basically said, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Again, like I said before, there's a rivalry that exists

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Speaker 5: between these two teams, something that that I fully recognize

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Speaker 5: and I'm a part of. And I mean, I just

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Speaker 5: I don't like that team. So George and I have

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Speaker 4: We're on the same page. All good. I hate that. No, really, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm happy. I said that Blank the Packers Happy. I

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Speaker 3: Look at it. We always talk about the term rivalry,

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Speaker 3: and this one is historic. But as we talked about

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Speaker 3: with Jason Lockevora last hour, since the arrival, hell, it

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Speaker 3: was even before Brett Fahr became the guy, when Don

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Speaker 3: Makowski's running around, they were still beating the Bears with

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Speaker 3: when Ben Johnson took over, even in his introductory press conference,

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Speaker 3: not that they ran the North, going to and four

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Speaker 3: I really like beating Matt Lafleur twice a year. Well

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Speaker 3: to get that number this year, had to do it

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs, so he got his two. And the

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Speaker 3: fact that George McCaskey has been man on the scene.

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Speaker 3: Part of it is, hey, we're gonna get some extra

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Speaker 3: all gonna flow. It's gonna be glorious. But he's also

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Speaker 3: That's a big topic in Chicago right now with the

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Speaker 3: passing of Virginia McCaskey and and Papa Bear up there

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Speaker 3: and all those kind of things that maybe they're and

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Speaker 3: the Pope obviously being a Bears fan, that that it

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Speaker 3: had all plays together. But for George McCaskey, remember it

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Speaker 3: was famous on the Hard Knocks season of Hey, there's

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Speaker 3: no cursing, we don't curse run. Yeah, I know people

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Speaker 3: just talking to you, I'm not in an official capacity,

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Speaker 3: and I drop an F bomb just kind of explaining

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Speaker 3: what I was doing. Oh you know in this blanket, guy,

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Speaker 3: that you actually get admonished for it and they'll threaten

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, for George McCaskey, yeah, we're on

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Speaker 1: With all of this. But that's what she always has been.

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Speaker 1: That's a pre Ben Johnson policy. Ben Johnson writes policy. Now, No,

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Speaker 1: that's it. He the old Now here's why I love it, right,

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Speaker 1: I love it. It's such a stokable rivalry from Rogers yelling

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Speaker 1: And I love that. But here's the thing, because I

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Speaker 1: stuff happened with Matt Lafleur behind the scenes before, because

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Speaker 1: when you show up at your first press conference, say

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed beating him the last couple of years, Like

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Speaker 1: there's something there, and now that it's it's such a

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Speaker 1: I will tell you this is that no matter what

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Speaker 1: the next as long as Ben Johnson's the coach and

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Speaker 1: everybody is still there. What happens when you push this

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Speaker 1: you suck. This sends players into games at a fever pitch. Obviously, right,

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Speaker 1: we're stoked up for this game. We're stoked up for

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Speaker 1: this game. And the first time next year when Micah

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Speaker 1: because he's so he's so wrapped up in all this,

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Speaker 1: a with a mentality that gets over the top. What's

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Speaker 1: when you want to play this kind of game off

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Speaker 1: that that's part of the game. But when you want

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Speaker 3: And I'm also the guy to remember when Jim McMahon

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Speaker 3: It is over in Pittsburgh. The Texans are going on,

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Speaker 4: Second dance party.

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Speaker 3: Did did you see Aaron Rodgers get sacked twist in

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Speaker 3: He nearly.

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Speaker 7: Rogers nearly lost his helmet. Now he's probably gonna retire.

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Speaker 7: He nearly lost his helmet, and it's time for Tomlin.

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Speaker 4: There you go. No one's ever freestyle the screaming trees

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Speaker 2: There we go.

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Speaker 1: Man, I nearly. I love screaming trees. You do that again,

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Speaker 1: I'll hurt you. That was great though, Now, but I

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Speaker 1: Really it's not at all what he sounded like. Yes,

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Speaker 4: This is this.

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Speaker 1: when do I walk away with the most money. I'm

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00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna walk away with right cause if I just stay

433
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 1: gambling and I gamble all night, I'm gonna lose it all.

434
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna lose my I'm gonna go, but

435
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 1: go to bed at six o'clock in the morning and go, oh, man,

436
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: I was up like fifteen hundred bucks and then I

437
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I had a couple of bad decisions

438
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: at five am with the Roulett wheel or whatever it is,

439
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,239
Speaker 1: and then you say, what you did, Well, now I'm

440
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 1: down three hundred Like you have to know when am

441
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: I gonna walk away with the most money? And that's

442
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Speaker 1: when I walk away. Rogers has to get when when

443
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: do I walk away with the most chips on the table.

444
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 1: And this is that moment because you can't count that

445
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: next year is gonna go better. It could go worse.

446
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: You finished on your feet, you won the division, you

447
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: got your team to the playoffs, you got the sour

448
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 1: taste of the Jets out of your mouth. This is

449
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: how it ends. Because if you're Roger, you reflect, You're

450
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 1: really gonna go through what happened next year. Next year

451
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: is not gonna be as good as this year. And

452
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: then suddenly it's all poor Aaron Rodger. He stayed a

453
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: year too long, and look at look at the memory

454
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Speaker 1: of him. Now, yes, you want to pick a better

455
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Speaker 1: ending than getting your helmet rearranging your face on the

456
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Speaker 1: sack and fumble return for a touchdown. But you don't

457
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: always get to pick the absolute end. But ending like this,

458
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: I think Rogers should take some time and think about

459
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: that situation and go all right, let me get away

460
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Speaker 1: from the game a bit and go, yeah, it's not

461
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: gonna go any better than this. I'm in my forties,

462
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 1: I'm done this. Other things I can do. This is

463
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Speaker 1: when to walk away from the game.

464
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Speaker 3: Yeah, finishes with twenty four against seven for the year,

465
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Speaker 3: twenty four touchdowns, seven picks, thirty three hundred yards, a

466
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 3: quarterback rating of ninety intended air yards per attempt. Only

467
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 3: two quarterbacks finished worse than him on the list in

468
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 3: front of me of forty one. That qualified Kyler Murray

469
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 3: at five point nine. You want to know who is

470
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: dead last? Dylan Gabriel. There you go, that's your company.

471
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 3: Of course, you're also down there with Gino Smith, Jared Goff,

472
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 3: Bryce Young, all the usual suspects your guy justin fields,

473
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 3: et cetera. But it look uneven season. You can go

474
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Speaker 3: all the way through, and there were moments, right you

475
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 3: have the winning streak and all of that for Tomlin continues,

476
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: and there were moments where for him and DK Metcalf

477
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 3: down the field like even today you watched a couple

478
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: of and highlighted it earlier with Calvin Austin that the

479
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 3: receivers at some point are gonna stop running their deep

480
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: routes because you're just getting rid of the balls you pass.

481
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Speaker 3: So suddenly you look it's like, oh wow, the ball

482
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 3: actually was where it's supposed to go. But normally he's

483
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: been hot rotten it or dirting it or taking the

484
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 3: sack that you're not even getting to that point. So

485
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 3: while it was I'm sure a nice cleanser for him.

486
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Speaker 3: Off the way the things ended with the Jets, it's.

487
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Speaker 4: Tough to say, hey, come back.

488
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 3: Although you and I have just watched sixty two different

489
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: guys quarterback a game as a starter in the NFL

490
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,479
Speaker 3: this year, He's better than a lot of those guys,

491
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: even at forty nine or whatever he is at this point,

492
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 3: darkness retreats or whatever. But you got to decide when

493
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: that end game is.

494
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the thing is that to get that stick,

495
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 1: everybody would rather stay, would rather go a year early

496
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: than stay a year too long. Right when you are

497
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Speaker 1: a player like this, when you are one of the

498
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Speaker 1: great to play the game, and Aaron Rodgers is one

499
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Speaker 1: of the top five quarterbacks I've seen throughout my life,

500
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Speaker 1: even regardless of the last three years.

501
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Speaker 3: But that's the thing, right, we've already done this for

502
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 3: three years. What's what's a four? But as long as

503
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Speaker 3: you don't get yourself hurt.

504
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,479
Speaker 4: But that's the thing.

505
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 3: By the way, you also rolled up a really inverted

506
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 3: way that you described it with your Vegas thing. I

507
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 3: thought you were gonna start picking a guitar and singing

508
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 3: the Gambler.

509
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 4: You have to know both too tired to sleep.

510
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 3: Uh.

511
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Speaker 1: Is that when when you're this great an athlete, you

512
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: never want the end to be remembered badly. And there's

513
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Speaker 1: many great athletes that hung on a year or two

514
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: too long. And that's what you remember when you think

515
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: about Joe Namath. The first thing you think of a

516
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl three, and then you think of boy the

517
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: Rams that was terrible. Well, you think of Susie Cole.

518
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 1: Will Yeah, Willie Mays had an incredible one of the

519
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: greatest three four careers in baseball history. But people still

520
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: remember his last year at the Mets when he had

521
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: trouble fielding the ball and running the basses.

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Speaker 4: EMITTT.

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Speaker 1: Smith unbelievable with the Cowboys, but that last year as

524
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Speaker 1: a Cardinal just to add more yards to his to

525
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: his total. Like certain certain players, when they're that good,

526
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Speaker 1: that becomes a very big memory and part of your

527
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: legacy is that you hung on with that year. Now,

528
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Speaker 1: if you are an average player or you're a really

529
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: good player and you want to play, hey, okay, right,

530
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: you play until they take the uniform off. You need

531
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Speaker 1: to continue to make money. Okay, Rogers has made his money,

532
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: He's had his career, and you want to keep that

533
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: legacy intact, especially when you have an after career career

534
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: that is going to help you. Right, Brady knew, okay,

535
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave here. Could he have played another year?

536
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: Probably could have, but would it have been as good

537
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: or would there have been embarrassing situations? And hey, boy,

538
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: Brady should have really hung it up. And now trying

539
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: to get into broadcasting, a little bit of the luster

540
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: comes off of him. But now but he knows I

541
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 1: have that next career that I want to get to,

542
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: and Rogers has that next career too, whether it's a

543
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: TV show, whether it's a radio show, whether it's coaching,

544
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: whatever it's gonna be. He's a guy that stirred the

545
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: drink for a long time. Then his popularity is hitting

546
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: incredible levels over the course of the past three four years.

547
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Speaker 1: So there's things he's going to do or he's going

548
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: to continue to be a voice. And so leaving off

549
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: of this high point, okay, great, another year where it's

550
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: another year of boy, he's throwing the ball even earlier

551
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: and off his back foot because he's scared he hears

552
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: footste Now it just gets more embarrassing and that ruins

553
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: your legacy and the optics and whatever you want to

554
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: do going forward. So that's why, you know, it's a

555
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: tough decision to go boy next year. I really think

556
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: I can go one more. But Kenny really, I mean,

557
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: you've seen him play sometimes this year was like, what, dude,

558
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: you can't throw the ball in DK metcalf with three

559
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: steps into his route just because of defensive lineman's coming

560
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: off the edge, step up in the pocket, buy some time.

561
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, I just want to throw the

562
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: football away. You don't want to get hit anymore. And

563
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: I get you don't want to get hit, but man,

564
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: you're the quarterback and you're you're the guy that's got

565
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: ustad in there deliver the football. It's not gonna get

566
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: better for Aaron Rodgers than it was this season ending

567
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: like this. It's not perfect, but it's as good at

568
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: the ending as you're gonna get.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just tough.

570
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 3: All those plays that you remember, and certainly you know

571
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 3: we talked a lot about the Bears Packers and the rivalry.

572
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 3: All those plays that were just the extension right, dancing

573
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Speaker 3: a little bit to the right, waiting, waiting, waiting, and

574
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 3: then delivering a perfect dark downfield which we watched him

575
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: get away and evade that initial pressure from the Houston

576
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 3: defensive line today, but it's scattershot, and we watched quarterbacks

577
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: all all weekend long where that became a bit of

578
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 3: a phenomenon of you're now feeling pressure that may not

579
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: one hundred percent be there and getting the ball out early,

580
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 3: sailing it wide. We watched CJ. Stroud do that a

581
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 3: number of times over the course of the game as well.

582
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: But for Aaron Rodgers, like I'm just always a believer

583
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: and you and I've been doing this a very long

584
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: time collectively, that it's the until until I have to

585
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: take it off, right until I got to take that

586
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: jersey off. I'm hanging on for dear life. Man. Retirement

587
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: is long. So EMMITTT. Smith, does he regret it in

588
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: his quiet moments that extra year with the Cardinals. Maybe,

589
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 3: but he can still say I got three Super Bowls

590
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: and all the Cowboys teams since me have sucked.

591
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeh.

592
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Speaker 1: It's you know, but I mean I don't think he likes,

593
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Speaker 1: you know, likes walking around with people. Go Emtt Smith,

594
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: you were great and the Cardinals.

595
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: But then he went Dancing with the Stars.

596
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 4: That is true, and he's.

597
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 3: Trained on that commercials Sonny, he had another after. I

598
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 3: mean Aaron Rodgers could be dancing.

599
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,479
Speaker 1: He had to wait to do Dancing with the Stars

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Speaker 1: to get to get the stink of the end of

601
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: with the Cardinals off. And that was like fifteen or

602
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: twenty years later. Oh, man, I gotta get rid of

603
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: I can't play football anymore. Oh this is great. Yeah,

604
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: I'll do Dancing with the Stars. I gotta have people

605
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: remembering for something else other than that last year with

606
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals.

607
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Speaker 3: Of course, the nerd me because of the memorabilia collectibility

608
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: and Emmett was always a big guy that you know,

609
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: wanted his touchdown football's had the huge collection and jerseys

610
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: and he'd been doing that forever, had his own logos

611
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: and long before anybody else. I'd be curious to see

612
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: what his hall was at conventions pre Dancing with the Stars.

613
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: Did that open up a whole other market? Yeah, where

614
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: people bring the photo of him and the glitter vest.

615
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: Is there dancing at the stars? Calm is do they

616
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Speaker 1: have that? If you showed up dancing con.

617
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: But if you show up at a well, I'm sure

618
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: there is to have them for soap operations at general hospitals.

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Speaker 4: Come on time now to find out what's trending in

620
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Speaker 4: the wide world. Sports.

621
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Speaker 1: But guy has been called the Emmett Smith of Fox

622
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: Sports Radio because he's really good at the tango. It's

623
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Speaker 1: Steve Desager.

624
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Speaker 4: Don't forget the chachacha.

625
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Speaker 8: By the way, Mike Tomlin might be dancing his way

626
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 8: out after another playoff loss tonight. There are so many

627
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 8: Tomlin stats coming through it's it's hard to keep track

628
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 8: of them all.

629
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Speaker 4: None of them are good.

630
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Speaker 8: Just for the record, Oh, okay, okay, Houston Texans win

631
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Speaker 8: their wildcard game at Pittsburgh tonight, thirty to six. Texans

632
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 8: have won ten in a row. They'll advance to New

633
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 8: England's Sunday three pm Eastern time for a divisional playoff game.

634
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 8: That means the Rams at Chicago game is Sunday at

635
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 8: six thirty pm Eastern. The two Saturday games, well, We've

636
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 8: got Bills at Denver this Saturday four thirty Eastern and

637
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 8: then on Fox TV Saturday Night, forty nine Ers at

638
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 8: Seattle eight pm Eastern time. Now Steelers coach Mike Tomlin

639
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 8: the first Steelers coach in their history to have a

640
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 8: nine year stretch without a single playoff victory. The thing

641
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 8: is he has lost seven straight playoff games, which ties

642
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 8: the record of Marvin Lewis of Cincinnati, and the Steelers

643
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 8: franchise is now the first ever to lose five straight

644
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 8: playoff games by double digits each.

645
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 4: They were only.

646
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 8: Down seven to six to start the fourth quarter tonight,

647
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 8: thirty to six Houston. The final Christian Kirk eight receptions,

648
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 8: one hundred and forty four yards and a score. Houston

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Speaker 8: Star wide receiver Nico Collins left with a concussion. Steelers,

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Speaker 8: for a seventh straight playoff game, were down at the half.

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Speaker 8: They did not recover Aaron Rodgers one fumble return for

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Speaker 8: a touchdown, one interception return for a touchdown. The Steelers

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Speaker 8: offense had eleven drives only thirteen first downs. Now, the

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Speaker 8: Texans turnover margin was best in the AFC a plus seventeen,

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Speaker 8: yet their quarterback c J. Stroud had three turnovers tonight,

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Speaker 8: and they still want going away. You mentioned the Steelers yardage,

657
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 8: their worst in a playoff game since the nineteen forties.

658
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 8: The yardage differential is the worst in any Steelers playoff

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Speaker 8: game ever because they own only one seventy five while

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Speaker 8: the Texans offense had four hundred and eight. Texans defense

661
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Speaker 8: is best in the AFC. They allow about two to

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Speaker 8: seventy five on average, which is best in the conference.

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Speaker 8: One seventy five for Pittsburgh tonight. In fact, Houston allows

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Speaker 8: only seventeen points a game and no touchdowns for the

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Speaker 8: Steelers tonight, thirty to six is the final. A note

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Speaker 8: on New England defensive bet Christian Gonzales is in concussion protocol.

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Speaker 8: As for the two late games in the NBA, It's

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Speaker 8: late third quarter at Sacramento and the Kings are leading

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Speaker 8: the Lakers eighty four to sixty nine, despite thirty two

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Speaker 8: points from LA's Luka Donciic halftime. In Los Angeles, Clippers

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Speaker 8: are edging Charlotte forty five forty three. Kawhi Leonard is playing.

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Speaker 8: He has eleven points. James Harden with thirteen earlier wins

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Speaker 8: for Indiana and phil Ladelphia, Michigan dropped to number four

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Speaker 8: in the New ap Men's College Basketball Pool NHL. Tampa

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Speaker 8: Bay won its tenth straight game, five to one at

676
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Speaker 8: Philadelphia Detroit in overtime beat Carolina four to three. Columbus

677
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Speaker 8: fired coach Dean Evison replaced by Rick Bonus and former

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Speaker 8: Pirates closer Dave Justy died at the age of eighty six.

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Speaker 8: He led the league in saves in nineteen seventy one

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Speaker 8: when Pittsburgh won the World Series. He was an All

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Speaker 8: Star in seventy three.

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Speaker 4: Back to you, Thank you, Steve O.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next, we get into

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Speaker 1: a big NFL story where one team that doesn't need

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Speaker 1: to get side swiped.

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00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 4: Absolutely getting side swiped.

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Speaker 1: Keep it right here, Big Football Monday continues Jason and

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Speaker 1: Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with My best friend

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Speaker 1: Mike Harmon. Yeah, Texans beat the Steelers thirty six. Aaron

695
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: Rodgers getting set to meet the media right now. Will

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Speaker 1: bring you some of what he had to say. Coming

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Speaker 1: up next hour Mike Tomlin as well in about ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: But speaking of Aaron Rodgers, right we talked about this

699
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: a few minutes ago. It's not gonna get any better

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Speaker 1: for him to retire than it is right now. You

701
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Speaker 1: want to when can I go out at the highest

702
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: point possible? And this winning the division, playing well at times,

703
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: this is as good as it's gonna get for him.

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Speaker 1: And one thing I'm sure he wanted to get rid

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Speaker 1: of that stink of the Jets off of him for

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Speaker 1: the short years before that.

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Speaker 3: Well, and the way they unceremoniously dumped him, oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: and how gleeful Aaron Glenn was and telling everybody about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you even had him say a couple you know,

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Speaker 1: within the last couple of weeks, talking about what he

711
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Speaker 1: likes about Pittsburgh, you know, kind of sideswiping the Jets

712
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Speaker 1: a bit by saying there's no leaks in this building.

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Speaker 1: People aren't saying anything. You know, I trust everybody. You

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Speaker 1: know where I was, all leaks were coming out with

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Speaker 1: the Jets and all of this. And then you add

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Speaker 1: Devonte Adams, who is now getting next week and in

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Speaker 1: the Marquee Game of the Week now six thirty Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: Rams Bears, Here we Go, Bears. Davante Adams did a

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Speaker 1: podcast this weekend and he talked about how focused and

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Speaker 1: ready you have to be for the playoffs, and this

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Speaker 1: is where DeVonta Adams give you some really good stuff

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Speaker 1: to say and then side swipes one of his former

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Speaker 1: teams at the end.

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Speaker 4: The main objective is to win the whole thing.

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00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 5: You gotta find a way to be gritty and resilient

726
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 5: within those games.

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Speaker 7: As if you don't bring your best stuff, you're gonna

728
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 7: be at home with the Jets.

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Speaker 2: You know, two seconds after.

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Speaker 4: That, come on, man, come on man, you played there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you cost them a win by not by by

733
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: by getting taken out of bounds on it.

734
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Speaker 4: But you know, I'm not gonna revisit that.

735
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: I just saw that wound.

736
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 4: Remember that day and bounds and then Jets are gonna

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00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 4: win that.

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Speaker 3: You just had the thousand yards stared and then let

739
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 3: further most corner of the studio and you were having

740
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 3: that flashback. I'd see the film, I.

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Speaker 4: Would be honest with you.

742
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So when I hear Devonte Adam say sideswiping

743
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: the Jets, but if not, you're there with the Jets.

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00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 4: Yeah okay, yeah, the Jet fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Years You see, they're an easy target obviously because the

746
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: way the organization is run. But seeing that, this is

747
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: why I come back every year for the Jets. It's

748
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: not where the Mets where It's been a life long

749
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: for me. It's ingrained in me, and I'm always gonna

750
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: watch baseball most no matter what happens every day. You know,

751
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Speaker 1: when I retire, whatever it is, I mean, it's not

752
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that's been a way of life for me.

753
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Speaker 1: Football has been something very passionately that I started following

754
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: when I was about the same age.

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Speaker 4: But football's different.

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Speaker 1: And I don't come back every year because I think

757
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: of boy, when I was a boy and I first

758
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: fell in love with the game, or my dad took

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00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: me out to throw a pass or whatever it was,

760
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Speaker 1: and I don't think about that because now I'm fifty

761
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: five and I understand, and I come back every year

762
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: for the Jets because eventually, one year they're gonna stick

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Speaker 1: it up. Everybody's you know, they're not, and I want

764
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: to be there for that. That's why I keep coming back.

765
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: Eventually we're gonna stick it up, and you and you

766
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. It's gonna happen, and that's gonna

767
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: be really sweet. Now I don't know when that's gonna happen,

768
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: probably not with Aaron Glenn, but eventually it's gonna happen.

769
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Speaker 4: And I am gonna love that moment.

770
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Speaker 1: And that's that's where I keep coming back every year

771
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: because I want that, not because I think.

772
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Speaker 4: The last fifteen years are not close to the playoff.

773
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Speaker 3: To be fair, when they do rise up on a

774
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: given Sunday Monday, we don't hear the end of it.

775
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 3: If it happens in a primetime game and you and

776
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: I are on the air, it's like it might as

777
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: well be the super Bowl in that moment, Yes, even

778
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: if it's we three, And I love that. Find your

779
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: wins each and every day we try to go one

780
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: and oh and everything we do in our worlds, but

781
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 3: it's composite. Some you win, sometimes you know win, but

782
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: in the when you lay your head at night, that

783
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 3: that you had a positive day and for you, you've

784
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: owned all of those if it actually got to the point.

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00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: Where you were playing meaningful football.

786
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: Well, but that's just saying I'm just going to the

787
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: larger hypothetical because there's a lot of different But it's

788
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 3: like the Marvel Cinematic universe. There might be an earth.

789
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: When when the Jets are winning, which it doesn't really happen,

790
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: but I remember what going back to back AFC Championship

791
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: games and remember I remember, I remember walking through the

792
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Speaker 1: mall with my Jets hat on the week of the

793
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game, just thinking, I feel like a sheriff

794
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: that I got that, I got the big badge and

795
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: the hat. Morning, ma'am, I'm in charge of this town.

796
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: Like that's how I felt walking in the mall. Man,

797
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: like my Jets, I was there.

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00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, back Uni, and you're recreating the Western guess what,

799
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: you're the guy that lost that shootout.

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Speaker 4: Then you have the Geno Smith game in San Diego.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not sad, but but that's why, like, that's

802
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: what I come back. At some point we're gonna state

803
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: you and you and you Rogers and you, DeVante Adams

804
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: and you and everybody else. Yeah, you are gonna you

805
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: are gonna wear it and I am gonna ride you

806
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: on it and it's going to be great again. It's

807
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: a weird way to but it's football. It's passionate, it's emotional.

808
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: That's why I keep coming back. Event one year it's

809
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: gonna turn one year We're gonna get something right at

810
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: some point, right, Because what do I say? The Jets

811
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: are like haities town. We sing a sad song over

812
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: and over, hoping that it will change at some point.

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00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 4: My children, but that's my children. Where did you? Where

814
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 4: did you hear that song? Where did you start rooting?

815
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 6: For this?

816
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: Why we build a wall?

817
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: But that that's why I come back every year. I

818
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: keep coming back for that, for that moment that much

819
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Frostbring, You've been part of a lot of winning here

821
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles, a lot of big moments. Where does

822
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: that game in person? Watching Smith die a little bit

823
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 3: inside on top five? Okay, I figured it had to

824
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: be at least top ten. I barely remember anything. That's

825
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 3: one of the worst. That's I think that's the worst play.

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Speaker 3: There's thirty one. Nothing I rememberross midfield in the fourth.

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Speaker 1: I remember the biggest play we had was a roughing

828
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: the passer penalty on Gino Smith in the first half

829
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Speaker 1: and the Jets got a first out that it see,

830
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: how was it?

831
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 4: Man?

832
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: That's pretty good? I mean I was at the game

833
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Speaker 3: of Rice, last home game for the forty nine ers.

834
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 3: Kate McCown didn't get the Bears pass the fifty oh

835
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 3: and tarall Owens caught twenty balls, so I have won

836
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: up you thirty one nothing.

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Speaker 1: Child's never gone to a game with Frostburg since no

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00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: man Cam put on a Chargers jersey at HALFTIMEE exit

839
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Speaker 1: up about a Fresca exit swelling dome coming up next.

840
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Speaker 1: We talked to Aaron Rodgers future. What about Mike Tomlins

841
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Speaker 1: You'll hear from him next.

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Speaker 3: Fuck