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Speaker 1: If, as expected, Neil Gorsuch is confirmed to the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court on Friday, he will become the first justice to

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Speaker 1: join the Court midway through a term since sam Alito

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Speaker 1: did that. The timing means course which could have an

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Speaker 1: immediate impact on American law. He could cast a deciding

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Speaker 1: vote in pending cases involving religion, housing discrimination, and redistricting.

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Speaker 1: He might help the Court decide whether to take up

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Speaker 1: pending appeals on gun rights and voter id laws. And

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Speaker 1: then there's Donald Trump's travel band which is currently being

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Speaker 1: contested in the lower courts. With us to talk about

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Speaker 1: this and what impact course which might make right away

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Speaker 1: is Kimberly Robinson, the Supreme Court report reporter for Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: B and A. Kimberly, always good to talk to you,

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Speaker 1: either on or off the air. Thanks for having me back.

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Speaker 1: So tell me, uh, if you could pick out a

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Speaker 1: single case or issue that you think will tell us

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Speaker 1: the most about Neil Gorsuch and what kind of justice

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Speaker 1: he will be over the next couple of months. Pick pick,

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Speaker 1: pick one. What do you think would be the biggest

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Speaker 1: tell I think you know, probably the easiest answer here

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Speaker 1: is a religious freedom case Trinity Luther and versus Comer.

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Speaker 1: This was a case that was actually granted over a

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Speaker 1: year ago, and the Supreme Court has been holding onto it,

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Speaker 1: probably because it's one that's likely to get a pretty

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Speaker 1: close vote from the Supreme Court. And this one is

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Speaker 1: about UM. As I mentioned religious liberty, and we heard

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Speaker 1: a lot of criticism during Neil gorsus is confirmation hearings

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Speaker 1: that you know he aggressively uh ruled in favor of

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Speaker 1: because it goes to a constitutional provision rather than a statute,

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Speaker 1: and so UM, we could right off the back it

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Speaker 1: get some look on how he will analyze these broad

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Speaker 1: constitutional rights. That's a case that's set for argument on

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Speaker 1: April the nineteenth, So of course it is confirmed we

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Speaker 1: know he will be involved in that case. Um. There's

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Speaker 1: also just sort of explained to our listener, is Um,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of cases that the Court has

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Speaker 1: few times the Justice has joined the court midway uh

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Speaker 1: those cases, even though maybe Gorsage could as a technical

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Speaker 1: the Court is divided four to four in those cases,

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Speaker 1: in which case the Court could order reargument in those

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Speaker 1: cases either this term or next term. Uh, Kimberly, are

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Speaker 1: there particular cases that have been argued that the Court

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Speaker 1: top of my head is redistricting case out of North Carolina. UM.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons that I think this might be

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Speaker 1: not just from the arguments, UM, but also because the

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Speaker 1: Court also heard another redistricting case on the same day

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Speaker 1: So it's indicating that the justices may be struggling with

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Speaker 1: this North Carolina case a bit more. And this one

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Speaker 1: really how the courts UM look at these claims Uh

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Speaker 1: One other case that's in my mind one that was

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Speaker 1: City of Miami. That's a case. Uh. That an issue

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Speaker 1: And uh, I am certainly wondering whether the Court um

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Speaker 1: seemingly might vote with them on that issue. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: the case of correct me if I'm wrong. I think

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Speaker 1: that that voter ideal law could be in effect for

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Speaker 1: the most recent election, right, that's right. And interestingly, in

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Speaker 1: this the court also has pending um or in front

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Speaker 1: So it might be this court is waiting to handle

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Speaker 1: those two cases, are wanting to handle those two cases together.

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Speaker 1: What do you foresee with regard to Trump's travel ban?

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Speaker 1: Is that going to How quickly do you see that

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Speaker 1: getting up to the Supreme Court and being in front

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Speaker 1: of a justice coursage. Well, right now it's in the

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Speaker 1: appellate courts. It's moving along very quickly. Uh. In fact,

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Speaker 1: to the Appellate Court just granted emotion to expedite the case.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be hearing arguments in the case

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Speaker 1: the High Court? Actually, I don't have an understanding, and

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Speaker 1: both agree that it will becoming becoming to the court, uh,

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Speaker 1: and not the too horribly distant future. I would think, Um,

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