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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt. It is everybody's favorite time, Everyone's

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Speaker 1: favorite time. Everybody loves the mock draft shore I get.

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Speaker 1: We get more feedback on the mock drafts, I think

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Speaker 1: than anything else that we do. I think so and

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Speaker 1: people can go do their own. It makes it pretty interactive.

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Speaker 1: You can get our way of thinking and then you're like,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done that. I'm gonna try this. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think it would be fun this week because we

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Speaker 1: do one now. Not that the Steelers are gonna a

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Speaker 1: ton over the week, but I bet they make two moves,

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Speaker 1: it will be. Yeah, I don't. I don't expect him

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Speaker 1: Signing some signing a couple of their own guys might

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Speaker 1: be the biggest thing. We're doing our draft today on

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Speaker 1: Pro Football focuses using their drafter. I like this one

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Speaker 1: because I can go and look and see. I don't

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Speaker 1: have to jump out of anything to go see what

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Speaker 1: everybody else has done. So rolling through the pics here

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Speaker 1: in the first round, UH, not surprised that Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: number one, Zack Wilson to Justin fields three, Jamaar, Chase

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Speaker 1: Penney Sewell, Trey Lance, Davante Smith, Rashawn Slater, Jalen Waddle,

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Speaker 1: Christian Barrymore at ten. Uh, Michael Parsons at eleven, Kyle

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Speaker 1: Gillar a twenty. With the run on edge rushers, continued

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Speaker 1: with twenty one that Gregory Russota Indianapolis, Asante Samuel It's

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Speaker 1: two goes to the Titans, and Mac Jones at three

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Speaker 1: goes to the Jets. So none of the running backs

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Speaker 1: like so the top guys available available to us, according

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Speaker 1: to Pro Football Focus. Read down the names here, Rishaw Bateman, Coramora, Wasso, Colmor.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Nick Bolton, j C. Horne, Tevin Jenkins,

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Speaker 1: It's Tony, Dylan, Raddin's why Davis, Samuel cos Me, Leatherwood,

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Speaker 1: all the running backs, Walker Little. We got three trade offers.

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Speaker 1: I forgot they do trades, do trades. Let's go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say there's not a there's not a non

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Speaker 1: three running backs are available, so if I can get

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Speaker 1: more by trading back, and I'm so, the Saints are

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Speaker 1: on the phone. Here are the three teams that are

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Speaker 1: and then the Texans with pick sixty seven. So I

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Speaker 1: the Saints. Uh, they have twenty eight, so obviously that

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Speaker 1: offer or twenty four. How does this one work? Do

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Speaker 1: try to make the deal. Here. Let's offer twenty four

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Speaker 1: Smelling the trend here. It's funny when you listed to

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Speaker 1: instead of giving up, we can give them to fourteen instead.

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Speaker 1: That was the cline. Okay, all right, phellas well, Well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna keep two fifty three in there and we'll

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Speaker 1: swamp picks next year with you. How about that. You

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Speaker 1: give us a five next year, we'll give you a

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Speaker 1: four because we're gonna get compics next year. I got

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Speaker 1: no problem getting rid of the next year pick for

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Speaker 1: a deal like this. That trade was accepted, So we

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Speaker 1: gave up. We gave up thirty nine. I'm sorry, we

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Speaker 1: of the seventh round completely this year, which is which

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Speaker 1: is fun for our radio show too. Absolutely, we gave

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Speaker 1: up our fourth round picks next year. We got thirty nine,

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Speaker 1: But I'm a little worried the three backs might fall.

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Speaker 1: Cost us a little bit next year. But is Harris

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Speaker 1: The top guys available. Who I like this Terris Marshall,

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Speaker 1: take Eichenberg here. I'm very happy about it. Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: a player here. Let's see what's available at linebacker, Jamie Davis.

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Speaker 1: Say if Davis, we both have Davis Obvercox right, considering

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Speaker 1: name man Rerevin Jordan is the top guy there. He's

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Speaker 1: picks coming up here in the next seven picks. I'd say, Davis, yeah,

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Speaker 1: have him ranked a little bit lower, but that would

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Speaker 1: be cheating. They get him ranked eighty fift and words sixty.

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Speaker 1: his report on Pro Football Focus. They like him a lot,

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Speaker 1: with that for their grades. You know, but he's an

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Speaker 1: That could be the end of Vince Williams's career in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: We're up again. Uh we got a trade offer. The

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Speaker 1: is not a lot of the corners went that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: What about minors? Miners? Is he was last time we

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Speaker 1: next year? In this builds have good picks? Could we

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Speaker 1: let's do that. So what do you like there? Um miners?

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Speaker 1: really well. So did miners for that matter. They both

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Speaker 1: I guess you're still available. Creed Humphrey. Uh, what about

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Speaker 1: They've got picked ninety two and edge the Raiders. Let's

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Speaker 1: the wide receivers available, Oh boy, they get picked over. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's interesting. Trey Brown still available? He did well on

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Speaker 1: his pro day to let's take him. Yeah, let's take

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Speaker 1: seeing Sean Wage still available. Interesting, he's certainly different than Brown.

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Speaker 1: I think Rogers would would like, if you're gonna run

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Speaker 1: Now we definitely need to look at edge interior, defensive line. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: looked at all the Steeler picks, and they had the

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Speaker 1: defensive line, right, Why the hell would they take three

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind that neighborhood. None of those names are,

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Speaker 1: Ellerson Smith out of Northern Iowa. Interesting, Chris Rump at

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Speaker 1: now he does. Milton Williams at Louisian Attech. Any of

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Speaker 1: Chauncey Gholston that of Iola doesn't really fit. Lee Harring

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Speaker 1: tight end search though. Okay, if there's a somebody that

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Speaker 1: look at anything else, right, right, It's not that he's

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Speaker 1: But if they don't want these, they all want these

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Speaker 1: We passed on. It's not a dinosaur, but he's Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Koon's out of Buffalo, Carlo Kemp out of Michigan. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's take him. I like I like his

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Speaker 1: A little bit, I mean hopefully better. But yeah, alright,

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Speaker 1: we're done. We're getting graded. And our trade in the

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Speaker 1: I've never drafted a position on here that wasn't quarterback

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Speaker 1: you don't give grades. You're not getting an A unless

417
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Speaker 1: you draft seven quarterbacks. Actually lost a little bit of

418
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Speaker 1: future equity, not too bad, but we stayed. We stayed

419
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Speaker 1: the same. I think do we make two deals to

420
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Speaker 1: add any time that we were? I think the only

421
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Speaker 1: thing we lost was the seventh round pick. Okay, I

422
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Speaker 1: thought the one deal we give up more than we

423
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Speaker 1: got back. Let me, let me take a look here.

424
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Speaker 1: We gave up the panther. Oh, we did give up

425
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Speaker 1: a round a fifth rounder next year, but we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get the but no, we get we gotta we give

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Speaker 1: up the fourth rounder, but we got a fifth rounder back,

428
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: so that that was a wash. That's not quite a wash,

429
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Speaker 1: but it's well, yeah, we get the same number, We

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Speaker 1: get the same number picks next year's number. I thought

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Speaker 1: we went backwards in one, but barely so we have

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Speaker 1: two fifth round picks. A lot of stuff this year, though,

433
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Speaker 1: I mean we got a lot better on the old line. Yeah,

434
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Speaker 1: the running back and receiver, an offensive tackle who a

435
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Speaker 1: lot of people think can step in and play right away.

436
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Speaker 1: He might, he might be. He might be your left

437
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Speaker 1: tackle on opening day. Yeah, it's a possibility. Jam And Davis.

438
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Speaker 1: Who helps your your linebacker room. Ridicously Miners is center,

439
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: nice boy Davis too is He's what two years different

440
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Speaker 1: contract than Bush. Yeah, you know, whenever you're did not

441
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Speaker 1: money um Miners center, Trey Brownett corner. So you've helped there,

442
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: Marie Rogers in your in your wide receiver room. He's

443
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: a better version of of It's similar to j Yeah,

444
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 1: just a little bit smaller, a little smaller, a little

445
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Speaker 1: better after the catch, not quite a physical hunter long

446
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Speaker 1: at tight end. So you help there. Mustapha Johnson on

447
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: the defensive interior. That's worth a shot. Yeah, yeah, I

448
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Speaker 1: think both of us would take this draft and heartbeat.

449
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Speaker 1: I think I like that draft a lot. You hit.

450
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Speaker 1: We touched all the bases and more, and yeah, I

451
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Speaker 1: mean you quality a lot of the spots. Not here's

452
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Speaker 1: a six round tight end that might be better in gentry.

453
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Speaker 1: But you know, I mean we had in the top

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty picks most of our all but one

455
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Speaker 1: of our picks was in the top one fifty because

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Speaker 1: because of the trades that we made and we got

457
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Speaker 1: rid of some. You know, so you're looking at will

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Speaker 1: be draft one, two, three, four or five six. We

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Speaker 1: had seven guys in the top one fifty. I mean

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Speaker 1: the way we see it, the thing that fell into

461
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Speaker 1: our lap this way was no running backs, not off

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Speaker 1: twenty three because you know, like you said you on

463
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Speaker 1: a previous segment when we recorded today, you mentioned you

464
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Speaker 1: did the d K one and there's two set two

465
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Speaker 1: running backs were gone when the studio pick twenty four,

466
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Speaker 1: where if none are gone, boy, I don't mind moving

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Speaker 1: back eight spots or move back five and then move

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Speaker 1: back another five. Because here's what happens if you if you,

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Speaker 1: if you, let's say you go ahead and you you

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Speaker 1: pass on the running back in the first round, even

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Speaker 1: if the even if all those guys are gone or

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Speaker 1: none of those guys are gone, I should say and

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Speaker 1: you move, you say, Okay, we're gonna stay at twenty

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Speaker 1: four and we're gonna take best offensive tackle available. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: could that makes sense? I get it. But then you're

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Speaker 1: going to have to trade up in the second round

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Speaker 1: to go get the running back. Oh yeah, and then

478
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Speaker 1: you don't have any of these picks, they don't have

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Speaker 1: a receiver and a linebacker. Yeah, I mean trading down

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Speaker 1: a round one is ideal easier to do on a

481
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Speaker 1: program than it is in the real world. Absolutely. Yea.

482
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Speaker 1: Now in this situation, you know, we we happened to

483
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Speaker 1: you know, Elijah Vera Tucker fell. Yeah, that's that's was

484
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Speaker 1: about to say, there has to be there has to

485
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Speaker 1: be something like there were three tackles available in Rashad

486
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Speaker 1: Bateman when we picked and Jeremiah oassu Core more to

487
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Speaker 1: mention that, I think if that situation happens, you'll get

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Speaker 1: a trade partner at twenty four if you want one,

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Speaker 1: specially Vera Tucker is available. He's a little different than

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Speaker 1: the others, and he almost got to that pick. You

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Speaker 1: got to twenty three and mac Jones went, well that's

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Speaker 1: the one. You really if that happens, you're definitely getting

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Speaker 1: calls about twenty four, no doubt. I mean it might

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Speaker 1: be from the Patriots offering next rounds first. Yeah, you know,

495
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Speaker 1: maybe you don't trade down as far. You know, it

496
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Speaker 1: might not be the style of trade you want toward

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Speaker 1: the Saints, or there's a lot of teams I think

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Speaker 1: would trade for Matt Jones. Yeah, or if Carolina gets

499
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Speaker 1: shut out or you know, teams like that at the

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Speaker 1: top of the draft coming up and giving you something

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Speaker 1: big next year or whatever. Yeah, I mean I think

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Speaker 1: Vera Tucker, um Owassu, Coamoa would be guys that could

503
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Speaker 1: be there that somebody will be at, you know, pretty

504
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Speaker 1: interested in. Yeah, I'm not sure who else would really

505
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Speaker 1: fit that bill the wild Cards. There again remains those

506
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Speaker 1: offensive tackles. What order did they go? I mean, I

507
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: think they're thirty two teams in the league. They will

508
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Speaker 1: have them. Those guys ranked their top ten offensive tackles

509
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Speaker 1: will be ranked thirty two different ways. I think the

510
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Speaker 1: top three year problem top three or pretty said, I

511
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Speaker 1: don't think the Saw has any chance to be there

512
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Speaker 1: twenty No, I don't think so either. But they went sewell,

513
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: went at five, Slater win at eight to the Panthers.

514
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Speaker 1: Very believable, very believable. Then you had Derri Saw go

515
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Speaker 1: to the Cardinals at sixteen. So three were gone by

516
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: the time we picked, and then it gets foggy, but

517
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Speaker 1: there's some good ones. And then Vera Tucker went at

518
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Speaker 1: twenty fourth. That's trade that we made. Deevin Jenkins Devin

519
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: Jenkins at five, Dylan Radden's at six. So what I

520
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: think is kind of believable about that is if a

521
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: guy like Vera Tucker's there, someone really wants some trades

522
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Speaker 1: up for him season as a guard or tackle whoever,

523
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Speaker 1: and then that starts to tackle run, the tier two

524
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Speaker 1: tackle run, that's really what those that's that's to me,

525
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: that's the biggest issue that I have taking a tackle

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Speaker 1: in the first round. I mean I don't. I don't

527
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Speaker 1: just like and typically say, yeah, I take a tackle. Yeah,

528
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: it's good business in general. But I do think that

529
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Speaker 1: there's a I think those top three guys and then

530
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Speaker 1: the next the next guys after that, I think there's

531
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Speaker 1: like eight or nine of them throw a blanket over

532
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Speaker 1: and they're not. They're not the first three guys. Like

533
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Speaker 1: if there are saws there, you run or slaters there, yeah,

534
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: you're okay, you take them. But after that then you're

535
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Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, you don't want to be the

536
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Speaker 1: first one to start the run because if your grades,

537
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: if your fourth guy and ninth guy are pretty similar,

538
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: you don't want to be the one behind the fourth one.

539
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: But you can see a run happening that fourth one goes,

540
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: it might be like, you know, well between picks twenty

541
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: when that runs to twenty four and Vera Tucker went,

542
00:28:55,360 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: he saw Tevin Jenkins go at five, Ratting's at six. Uh,

543
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: then you there was a little bit of a law there.

544
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: But that Walker little win at thirty six. They also

545
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: don't happen to like Mayfield as much as most, but

546
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: he probably would have gone in that neighborhoo too. Cosmi

547
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: goes at forty. Um. That could be good and bad

548
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: for the Steelers if if such a tackle one happens

549
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: helps you get your running back into the trade down

550
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: and you know it gives people targets to trade up for.

551
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: But your second round title tackle might not work out

552
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: as well as it did for us. Leather would win

553
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: it at fifty, Jackson Carmen went at fifty four, so

554
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: before the Steelers would them make that. We got Eikenberg

555
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: at fifty five. But between our pick it four and

556
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: the picket at fifty five, there were nine tackles taken.

557
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty cut right. A lot of those

558
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: teams need right interesting, but at least there's a lot.

559
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: But if we move, if we don't take if we

560
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: don't take the running back in the first round. We

561
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: may not get one, might not get one. But again,

562
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Speaker 1: I'd love to go into the draft with Filer, Banner

563
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: and chokes on the contract. If he didn't get one,

564
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: that would hurt. But you could you could be all right, Yeah,

565
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: I mean you have chookes just like last year. Filer

566
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Speaker 1: be one and you know, I know it's different positions,

567
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: but Filer be the right tackle choos and Zach you

568
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: battle it out with the left tackle spot and see

569
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: what happens. Yeah, that wouldn't be the end of the world. No,

570
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so love that in the mix.

571
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, um see what you see what happens at

572
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Speaker 1: the center position. I mean everybody was, hey, Dotson has

573
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: to start at the guard. Okay, well Dotson starting a guard.

574
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: And again, the same thing we talked about the greg

575
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: So Coastal last week. The running back makes the run game. Yeah,

576
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: big upgrade there. And if you got I mean, no

577
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: one wants to get shut out on those top tackles.

578
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: You'd love to grab one of those top dozen or so,

579
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: even if it's a Cincinnati kid or you know somebody

580
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: that it's a project. But boy, you'd be good somewhere else, right, Yeah,

581
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: if all those guys are going to I mean again,

582
00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: that's like eleven tackles in the tops. You'd like to

583
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: be one of those, but you don't want to over

584
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: spans and then you'll be good somewhere else. That's again,

585
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: that's the Cobra way of I don't have to do

586
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: something on draft day. Yeah, so interesting, another interesting rock draft.

587
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: I would take that one in hard. Yeah. I think

588
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers would as well. But that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for this segment. So for my partner Matt Williamson for

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Speaker 1: Jacob ric here on site, keeping us on the air

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