1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is They called me Ben. 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: We are joined as always with our super producer Alexis 7 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: code named Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you, 8 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: You are here, and that makes this stuff they don't 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: want you to know. It's the top of the week, 10 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: which means it's time for our Strange News segment, all 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: the weird, sometimes still developing stories that we wanted to 12 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: share with each other and most importantly with you. UH 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: quick update, if you all allow, we have a We 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: have a follow up on one story that we reported 15 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: earlier regarding some arrest for sexual trafficking in our home 16 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: state of Georgia. The information we worked with at the 17 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: time was relatively limited, as this was an unfolding event. 18 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: Later reporting has verified that this was not a large 19 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: human trafficking ring, and crucially, there were not thirty nine 20 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: children found in a single trailer, as had been originally reported. 21 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: There's an excellent article on Huffington post that came out. 22 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: Let's see the yesterday as we record this that clears 23 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: the matter up. We suggest that for further reading. Yeah, 24 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I just wonder, Ben, was there 25 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: a sense that the task force and that the governor 26 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: sort of misrepresented this a little bit. That's sort of 27 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: because it felt like we were operating largely under on 28 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: the pr angle that the you know, that our state 29 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: government is putting out and then a lot of those 30 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: things that we reported were coming directly from this kind 31 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: of yea US kind of attitude that they were espousing. Um. 32 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: And I saw a Twitter user put out a tweet 33 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: saying or actually this article on HuffPo whereas said the 34 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: government just found thirty nine traffic children and a double 35 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: wide trailer. How is this not the biggest news story 36 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: in America? And the Huffo article corrected it to thirty 37 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: nine missing children in two weeks across seven states, houses 38 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: on the biggest new story in America. Um, it's been 39 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: a pretty big story. I was wondering where where was 40 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: the disconnected because it's I I still don't know if 41 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: I fully get it right. The Huffing to Post article 42 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: you're mentioned is the one that I'm referring to. Yes, 43 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: the part of it is the access to information that 44 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: occurs as events unfold. Uh. You know, this is something 45 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: that's pretty common in the world of news. We just 46 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: have to be open to more information and to addressing 47 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: it when it occurs. Yeah, for sure, there was a 48 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: ton of new information coming out about this. The the 49 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: original press release was like, here's everything that you need 50 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: to know, and this is why it's newsworthy. As of 51 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: right now, we're taking care of these bad guys and 52 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: getting the children to a safe place. That was like 53 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: it right, I mean, we did this great thing. Here's 54 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: a bit of the info, and then the details started 55 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: coming and there may have been a bit of a 56 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: game of telephone with some of the reporting as well, 57 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: working off again that limited information. But thank you to 58 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: everyone who wrote in about the article that posted and 59 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: cleared things up on Monday, September seven. Greatly appreciate your 60 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: diligence and your time. So, as always, we have a cavalcade, 61 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: a bevy but three news that we think you will enjoy. 62 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: We haven't talked about how we would like to present 63 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: these to each other and to you, but you know, 64 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: there's one that's been on my mind. I think it's 65 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: on the end of a lot of our fellow conspiracy 66 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: realist today, and that's the state of the constitutionally created 67 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: service known as the United States Postal Service. No, there 68 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: was a store you found. That is something I think 69 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: a lot of our fellow listeners need to hear. Yeah. So, 70 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: there was some surveillance footage taken from behind a spa 71 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: in Glendale called the seven Q salon Um, and it 72 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: shows a one of those budget rental trucks, kind of 73 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: box trucks, backing up into the parking lot sort of 74 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: like a loading dock situation behind the building. Um. These 75 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: are you know, traditional commercial storefront type strip mall building 76 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: and Um. Then you see in the footage bag after 77 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: bag of paper being thrown out of the back of 78 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: this truck and into a pile in these plastic bags. 79 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: Apparently the co owner of the salon Um, an individual 80 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: by the name of Leliah sarobian Um, went back and 81 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: found these bags and took some cell phone video of them. 82 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: And that was the week we're recording, this being September 83 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: the eighth. That was this past Thursday, UM, and the 84 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: Thursday before Labor day weekend, and I took some cell 85 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: phone footage of it and then realized that these bags 86 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: were actually filled with hundreds of unopened letters and packages 87 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: originating from the US Postal Service or somebody sent them 88 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: through the Postal Service to somewhere else and then they 89 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: arrived in that truck somehow. Is that what we're saying, Well, 90 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what we're saying. We're not quite sure. 91 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: It's sort of topping, but it could. There's a lot 92 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: of things that could be in and I'm interested to 93 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: hear you guys take. But the owner of the salon 94 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: was quoted as saying it was completely unusual if they're 95 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: taking for their personal use, basically, why they have to 96 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: drop off all the unopened packages somewhere um, and talked 97 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: about it being suspicious. He started thinking, Okay, something's going 98 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: on because no one has access to all those boxes 99 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: and packages. Uh, And and there is a probe underway. 100 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: Glendale Police said that before these you know, items were discovered, uh, 101 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: they received a call about several bags of mail being 102 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: tossed in an alley half a mile from the spot, 103 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: and it wasn't particularly clear that it was the same 104 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: truck Um, but it seems like it's highly likely that 105 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: that it might have been. This is from the c 106 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: CBS News. Uh, there's one of the l A Times. 107 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: There's a handful of of outlets reporting this local too, 108 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: to the Los Angeles area. But um, the U S 109 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: Postal Service was reached out for comment and I haven't 110 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: responded yet. UM, So I don't know, fellas. Uh, it's 111 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: it's the kind of thing that's sort of red meat, 112 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: you know, when we're dealing with a situation where there's 113 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: a sense that the post services potentially being hobbled. Um 114 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: that we've seen footage of, you know, trucks driving around 115 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: picking up mailboxes, letter boxes off of the street, you know, 116 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: and there was a big cost cutting um initiative underway 117 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: in the postal service that many folks believed to be 118 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: tied to trying to cripple the mail system and so 119 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: that mail in ballots and absentee ballots would take longer 120 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: account um in the upcoming election, where we know one 121 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: party has been vehemently opposed to those things, citing them 122 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: as being fraudulent, and there's a sense that perhaps uh, 123 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: folks on the Democratic side of things would be more 124 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: likely to vote in that way, and folks on the 125 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: Republican side of things, not not all but but there 126 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: seems to be more of a likelihood that they would 127 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: go to the polls um And then obviously the Postmaster 128 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: General did come out and say those cost cutting measures 129 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: were going to be postponed until after the election. But 130 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 1: this is kind of where the mind goes, at least 131 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: my mind when I see stories like this. Obviously it's 132 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: an isolated event. It could have easily been somebody alone, 133 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: wolf figure going around and pulling things out of people's mailbox, 134 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: some stuffing a bag with them and then tossing them. 135 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: Or is this something more coordinated. Yeah, there are a 136 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: couple of points here that I think are crucial. So 137 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: we know, the USPS has been in the news, not 138 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: just domestically but in the world news because of concerns 139 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: that the service it's not a business, it's a service, 140 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: is being gutted, with the long term aim being to 141 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: privatize the entire endeavor, meaning that instead of sending your 142 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: mail through the USPS with the option to use a 143 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: private carrier like FedEx or UPS, etcetera, one would be 144 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: required to use private carriers, which are more expensive because 145 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: there is no government alternative For people who believe this 146 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: is a move toward privatization. Uh, it seems to be 147 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: a long strategy, an example of what's often called starve 148 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: the Beast tactics, which is a long story short. The 149 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: concept of starved the beast is the following that you, 150 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: as a political influencer, can degrade and cripple a public 151 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: service such that it can no longer function, and then 152 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: use the fact that it no longer functions as a 153 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: rallying cry to privatize the whole thing. It's very tricky. 154 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: It's like create the problem that you claim to solve, 155 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: which is tail as old as time in so many 156 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: political circles. We have an example of this that's pretty 157 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: controversial again for the people who believe in this theory. UH. 158 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: The two thousand six Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act, or 159 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: you'll love the acronym here NOLU the pay paia not 160 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: quite pay uh. This required two thousand, six thousand seven. 161 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: Is this required the US Post Office to pre fund 162 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: all the medical financial requirements for their retirees. That's something 163 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: that that's something that's not normal, by the way, So 164 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: this put a tremendous financial burden on the USPS, way 165 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: way back more than ten years ago now, and the 166 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: USPS continued. But now with all the concerns that you're 167 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: rightly raising, both in every state in the nation here 168 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: and around the globe for people who are, you know, uh, 169 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: proponents of things like democracy, the USPS is is being 170 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: seen as the subject of concerted effort to close it down. 171 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: And just like you said, a lot of people are 172 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: penning that specifically on the election which is coming uh 173 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: pretty soon as we record today's app is suit. Does 174 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: mail get lost? Sure? Does mail get purposefully messed with? Yes, 175 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: but it's a felody. So whomever is dumping these bags 176 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: of mail is, if the rules apply to them, running 177 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: the risk of jail time and enormous finds. The reason 178 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: I say if the rules apply to them is because 179 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: de Joy, who is the Postmaster General himself, is in 180 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: a lot of hot water now if the rules apply 181 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: to him. So there's some weird stuff going on with 182 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: these bags in this particular thing. Noel, did you talk 183 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: about the whole contractor situation yet? Okay, So the Western 184 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: Regional Coordinator for the American Postal Workers, I guess that's 185 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: the union, the American Postal Workers Union. He was contacted 186 00:11:55,280 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: by CNN and he stated that no USPS employees were 187 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: involved in this whole scenario. The budget truck, the person 188 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: in it, and that mail. He's saying that this was 189 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: a contractor of some sort that was either delivering mail 190 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: to a facility or taking it from the facility. He 191 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: specifically talking about the weird plastic bags, not weird up 192 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: the clear plastic bags that maybe you and I, as 193 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: end users of USPS mail, don't ever get to see. 194 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: They are for bulk mailing that occurs through um maybe 195 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: third parties in other places that mail a bunch of things. 196 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: The way it was recovered, I guess after being dumped, 197 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: this guy from the American Postal Workers Union, he is 198 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: saying that that is definitely bulk mail. It was definitely 199 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: going to a facility or leaving a facility. And the 200 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: big thing here, because it's bulk, that's weird about it 201 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: is that whoever this person was in that truck, they 202 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: a dumped it all there for absolutely zero reason. It 203 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: can't get picked up from that location if it was 204 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: let's say, was incoming mail right to end up at 205 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: the Postal Service and then get shipped somewhere else. It's 206 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: not like somebody is gonna come and pick it up 207 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: from that parking lot. So it wasn't outgoing mail from 208 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: a facility. Um and the where it was dumped there 209 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: were clearly cameras focused directly on that location where the 210 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: truck was. Well and if you wanted to disappear a 211 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: bunch of mail, I could think of a hell of 212 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: a lot of better ways of doing it, as things 213 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: called incinerators. Just throw it on a fire, I mean, 214 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: dumping it in this bulk shipment bag in full view 215 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: of the camera. Buying a spa in Glendale. I mean, 216 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: is is it like a look at me situation? Like? 217 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: Is it like a warning? Like I I'm confused about 218 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: the intent here. So with all those tensions, I was 219 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: just gonna put out there that maybe it is a uh, 220 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: some kind of pr play by somebody. Someone got paid 221 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: to dump a bunch of mail that is supposed to 222 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: go somewhere, but it never got to go somewhere, and 223 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: it would make the postal service look bad. That's what 224 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: it feels like. Considered that too, Yeah, because you know, 225 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: there's an interesting point we can't neglect here. The person 226 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: that you're talking about, Matt, as you said, is a 227 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: representative of the Postal Workers Union, not the post Office. 228 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: The post Office has an official line for these things, 229 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: which is we do not comment on ongoing investigations. And 230 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: I believe LILYA Serabian, the owner of seven D, the 231 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: person who had the camera footage, also confirmed that this 232 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: was unusual, like this isn't the bag dump by night 233 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: that everyone's familiar with the pr angle. I considered that too. 234 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: It's fascinating. And to that end, there's a really odd 235 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: quote that they just kind of blast past in the 236 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: CNN article and they don't say anything about it. Um 237 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: hang on. It says we wanted to make sure it 238 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: wasn't a bargaining employee. What is that like collective bargaining? 239 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: Like this is like a like a union beef that 240 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: they're trying to, you know, get some leverage with. Like 241 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: what what an odd quote to just toss off like that. 242 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: I don't have the knowledge of exactly what's going on 243 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: behind closed doors with with bargaining that must be happening 244 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: right now, because you're talking about massive changes coming down 245 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: from the top about what the USPS can do again, 246 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: like for its employees, what what services it offers all 247 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: these kinds of things. Then you've got the union on 248 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: the other side, who represents all these employees. And then 249 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure when a big change like that comes down, 250 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: the union has to have a big hand in shaping 251 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: what actually occurs, you know, uh, or or what the 252 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: what the workers can get when it comes to all 253 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: these changes, right, And I mean, I'm assuming that there 254 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: could be something like at but I don't know what 255 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: the bargaining chip would be by dumping a bunch of mail, 256 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: maybe the Boston to add uh some sort of public 257 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: support for the mail being uh, you know, attacked again, 258 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: going back to that ongoing theory and conversation, as far 259 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: as the nomenclature of unions, I know that a bargaining 260 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: unit is the common term for a group of employees 261 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: who are seeking some sort of modification to their employment agreement. 262 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: But a bargaining the reason I bring that up is 263 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: the term bargaining employee maybe union terminology, you know what 264 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: I mean? That's that would be my guess again, not 265 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: being the head of the postal service unions, Sorry to 266 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: bust that myth to everybody. I'm not in charge of 267 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: the Post Office union. But what about the image of 268 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: the protest vibe like I'm not have only half joking 269 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: when I say Boston tea party. You know, it's like 270 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: somehow pushing back against the government making these cuts and saying, 271 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, if if you're not gonna pay us, or 272 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 1: you're gonna, you know, reduce our ability to do our 273 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: jobs correctly, we're just gonna say f you and just 274 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: throw the mail out into the streets. You know, maybe 275 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: it was all mail for a representative or a senator 276 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 1: from there's no way for us to know that. So 277 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: how's that helpful? Or maybe it's UH. But if that's 278 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: the case, it's an active vigilantism because the union or 279 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: the other power structures that would be perhaps sharing that 280 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: long term goal UH obviously have left this operative in 281 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: the cold. Perhaps there is some sort of black back, 282 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: black mail carrier back operation where where the UH, somewhere 283 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: at the Post office is saying, you know, this is 284 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: your mission, should you choose to accept it, neither rain, sleet, 285 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: snow or hail will stop you. However, if you are caught, 286 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: we will disavowt any knowledge of this operation in your existence. 287 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: All right, now go dump all this stuff in the 288 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: salon parking list, not not even like in the Atlantic 289 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: or you know, the Pacific, like in the this one 290 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: particular salon parking and just really quick and then I'm done. Um. 291 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: I could also see this as being a really like 292 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: sinister twist ending to like a sci fi story where 293 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: like one party wins the election by a mile and 294 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: then like the insider character and the story stumbles into 295 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: this warehouse that's just full of bags and bags and 296 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: bags of mail in ballots that never made it to 297 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: where they were going. Yeah, just so everybody knows. According 298 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: to CNN, and his name is Omar Gonzalez, uh, the 299 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: guy we've been referring to who represents the union. He says, 300 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: the recovered mail appears to be viable, and we'll go 301 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: through a verification process and will be delivered no doubt. 302 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: So possibly, Yeah, rerouted, I love this idea of viable man. 303 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: That's the way you talk about a fetus, not like 304 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: a bag of mail. It's interesting that you mention that 305 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: because the USPS logistical problems that are occurring now with 306 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: all the machines being pulled and the the refusal to 307 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: give people over time, etcetera. Uh, that has resulted in 308 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: dead livestock, dead chicks in particular, being shipped through rural areas. 309 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: So there are not fetus is, but but there are 310 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: lives at stake, even if they're well. They're human lives 311 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: at stake too, because people get insolent through the mail. 312 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: That's right, stuff, you guys, interesting to follow. I mean, 313 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: if it's an isolated event, then big whoop, I guess, 314 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: but I don't know. We start seeing more and more 315 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: random bags of mail popping up behind like best buys 316 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: across the kind you know. I mean like that, that's 317 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: something to take note of. I hope it stays with 318 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: beauty parlors though I like the theme of it. Uh 319 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: add some tang to the conspiracy a little bit, o 320 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: mom me, oh my, cos I just want to give 321 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: from us a big shout out to all usps ups, FedEx, 322 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: whatever kind of shipping service you work for, all all 323 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: you folks out there keeping the wheels going right now 324 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: to get stuff shipped one place to the other. Big 325 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: things huge. I was trying to find where I found it, 326 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: but I either heard somebody that works for the postal 327 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: service talking about this or I read it somewhere and 328 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't find it. But anyone out there that that 329 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: does work for the Postal Service, let me know if 330 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: this is true. I heard that a lot of times, 331 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: like like, the Postal Service will actually take things further 332 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: into rural areas than Amazon or ups or fed x well, 333 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: and that that's like a thing people forget about. An 334 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: important quality of the Postal Service is that it allows 335 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: people to live in less quote connected parts of the 336 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: country to get their mail in their packages, and they 337 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: actually piggyback, they actually help these companies that are genuinely 338 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: shutting them down. It's pretty it's true. I mean, that's why. 339 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: That's how I said earlier. You know, one of the 340 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: rally and krysil here is that it is not a business. 341 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: It's not supposed to be profit driven. It's a service 342 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: that is constitutionally guaranteed. Uh So, so what that comes 343 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: down to in terms of financial brass tacks is that 344 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: if you live in rural America, as do millions and 345 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: millions of people, it is more much more expensive to 346 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: use a private carrier, and you know, if it does 347 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: occur in cooperation with the US Postal Service. So ending 348 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: that thing regardless of how you feel about government services 349 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: in general, ending that adds an enormous concrete year over 350 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: your expense to the lives of other fellow US residents. Sorry, 351 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: let me get off my soapbox here real quick. I 352 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: didn't mean to make that a ted talk, but yeah, 353 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: I'm looking for to burning down your soapbox and a 354 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: bunch of other things millions of acres with my story, 355 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: which is coming up next and we've returned, Matt. That 356 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: was an excellent segue. And I think this story is 357 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: one that many of our fellow listeners are somewhat familiar with. 358 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: But this is this is wild, and it's a bit 359 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: of an unfortunate origin story for one individual in particular. 360 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: It's an extremely terrible origin story for the superhero who 361 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: is budding, who will you know, be fighting crime for us? 362 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: I'm assuming very very soon. How many years does it 363 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: take to become a superhero from birth? Like, is it 364 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: teenagers or's the early twenties? I think it just depends. 365 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: It often happens in adolescence, but really it's it's a 366 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: I guess the rules of Joseph Campbell and Worry and 367 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: Hero with a Thousand Faces tells us that as soon 368 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: as you were old enough to go into the Figurat 369 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: of Dark Woods and return change. Uh. In the case 370 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: is superheroes return changed with amazing powers, then boom you're in. 371 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: Just make it back. That's amazing. The only problem is 372 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: this character may end up being a super villain and 373 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: it's not his or her fault. I'm gonna begin with 374 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: a California Fire news release which was sent out on 375 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: nine six, just two days from the recording of this episode. 376 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: California Fire Law Enforcement has determined the El Dorado Fire, 377 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 1: burning near Oak Glen in San Bernardino County, was caused 378 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: by a smoke generating pyrotechnic device used during a gender 379 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: reveal party. The fire began at ten am on September 380 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: five in the El Dorado Ranch Park in u Kaipa. 381 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: Am I saying that right, Californians, anyone you let us 382 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: know in the comments. The fire spread from the park 383 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: to the north onto Yukaipa Ridge that separates Mountain Home 384 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: Village and Forest Falls from the city of Yukaipa. California 385 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: Fire reminds the public that with the dry conditions and 386 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: critical fire weather, it doesn't take much to start a wildfire. 387 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: Those responsible for starting fires due to negligence or legal 388 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: activity can be held financially and criminally responsible. Pretty obvious. UM, 389 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: So the story here is that a very large fire 390 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: began when a smoke causing or emitting device was used 391 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: at a gender revealed party, which is UM, a gender 392 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: revealed party if you don't know what that is. That 393 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: is when UM, a couple who is having a baby 394 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: decides to reveal to friends and family, usually right now, 395 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: at least online through some kind of video or something 396 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: to that effect. UM, they keep it all secret until 397 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: that revealed party, and then usually with a color. That's 398 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: the way I've seen it most commonly. I don't know 399 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: if you guys have seen anything different, but by using 400 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: a lot of times the color blue or pink, they 401 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: will reveal them. I guess the I don't even know 402 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: how to say it. The gender, the biological gender, or 403 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: whatever you want. It's not. It is a field. But 404 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: the thing is called a gender revealed party. So we 405 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: can stay within that nomenclature because I think the practice 406 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: itself has sort of been canceled or is a bit problematic, 407 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: and we can get into that. We can get into 408 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: that and in its own in its own way in 409 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: a minute. So all the problems with the gender Revealed 410 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: party itself exists here, right, We're gonna put that to 411 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: the side. The other major problem is that there are 412 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: drought conditions in much of the western United States, and 413 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: specifically in parts of California where there are already massive 414 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: wildfires burning right now at a time when this gender 415 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: reveal party was occurring. Um. Deciding to use a pyrotechnic 416 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: device of any kind is probably a bad idea, but 417 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: how it was done, where it was done was just it. 418 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: It feels like people were either out of their mind 419 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: or not thinking at all. Whoever did this. It's also illegal, Yes, 420 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: very much illegal. No, you found a video of this 421 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: and shared it with us. Could you talk to us 422 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: about what we're what we're looking at here and how 423 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: people can also watch this? Yeah, I just happened upon it, 424 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: um when in googling another aspect of it that would 425 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: add at the end. Um. But yeah, it's apparently relatively 426 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: knew that this video came out. I don't know if 427 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: it's some like cell phone video from one of the 428 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: people involved, but it looks like a box but like 429 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: you know, one you could probably sit on like it's 430 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: it's just laying on the ground, um, and it's in 431 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: it's on this this hill and it's surrounded by super dry, 432 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: very very tall grass and essentially it creates this huge 433 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: explosion with pieces of debris flying everywhere, and it's big 434 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: blue cloud and I mean, I would say it would 435 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: envelope the three of us if we were standing there. 436 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: It would like be enough material to like fully like 437 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: think of in a cartoon where you have the dogs 438 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: and cats fighting and it's a big cloud of dust 439 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: and then you know, people disappear inside of it or 440 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: dogs and then one jumps out and gets dragged back 441 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,919 Speaker 1: in like that size. Um. And then it immediately catches 442 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: the grass on either side of it on fire immediately, 443 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: and it just just like you know, you can see 444 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: it happening. You can see it shooting out in all 445 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: directions the fire. Wow. Yeah. Um, it was my first 446 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: time actually seeing the video of it occurring. And it 447 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: is a massive thing. Um. Honestly, whenever red smoke smoke 448 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: generating device or whatever, I thought it was gonna be 449 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: a tiny little smoke ballumb you know, like you maybe 450 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: you played with as a kid. I used to use those. Yeah, 451 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: but no, it is not that it is as a 452 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: bomb uses Tanna righte. It looks like the kind of 453 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: thing that maybe someone involved was involved in theater or 454 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: movie production or something. It looks like that grade of 455 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: incendiary device. That's exactly what I was thinking too, especially 456 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: when consider how many people are probably left with equipment 457 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: and although it's weird to say in this situation, expertise 458 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: and access uh in the in the wake of the 459 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: enormous uh enormous closure of the entertainment industry in California. UH. 460 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: This this fire, by the way, as of yesterday is 461 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: only seven percent contained. UH. And I believe that they 462 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: found a suspect of family. I believe that they have 463 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: uh not to my knowledge, specifically publicly identified the family, 464 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: but the authorities have found and contacted them. They were 465 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: still on the scene when the firefighters arrived. If I 466 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: were that group of people, I would probably also not 467 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: want my name in public, especially in my local area. 468 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: Oh for sure. UM. And again it was a massive mistake. 469 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: I do not think this is me just speaking. I 470 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: do not think that was done on purpose. I don't 471 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: think they understood what was about to happen when they 472 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: began when they sat down that set of things that occurred. 473 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: I would just say this, like you said, Ben, as 474 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: seven percent contained as of yesterday. The you know, and 475 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: this is one of numerous fires, the Creek Fire, which 476 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: is burning also right right now on both sides of 477 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: the San Joaquin River. Um, it's been going since the 478 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: Friday last since last Friday, and getting I'm getting a 479 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: lot of this from the Sacramento B and the Fresno 480 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: B by the way, those are two local papers there. 481 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: Um As a Sunday, the we are consumed seventy three 482 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: thousand acres and is at zero percent containment. And they're 483 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: saying that the fire suppression costs were in the millions 484 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: of dollars at this point. So the idea of these 485 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: these people being financially on the hook for this could 486 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: be life changing and and and the worst possible way. 487 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: I would also add that California overall is having a 488 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: tremendous issue with resources for firefighting and fire suppression, such 489 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: that there is one group called Van from Japan that 490 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: has started attempting to sell small Japanese firefighting vehicles. More 491 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: and more people in the area, uh in California in 492 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: general have been investing in their own private firefighting equipment, 493 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: which I think underlines both the gravity of the situation 494 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: and the UH and lets us know that people are 495 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: considering this to be the new normal going forward. Only 496 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: you can stop forest fires. The old smokey the bear 497 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: tagline appears to unfortunately be increasingly literal for some people 498 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: who simply can't get firefighters support in in time to 499 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: save their their you know, their buildings, their families and themselves. Yeah, 500 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a devastating thing. You can go 501 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: online right now if you don't live in California or 502 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: not being affected by this in any way, and you 503 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: can see the harrowing stuff that a lot of the firefighters, 504 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: both professional and amateur, are going through to try and save. 505 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: Like you said, been there themselves in their their structures. Um, 506 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: it is really really tough. This is a stat from 507 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: San Francisco Gate. Up until this point, the most destructive 508 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: wildfire season ever recorded in California was just two years 509 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: ago in two thousand eighteen, when one point eight nine 510 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: million acres burned. Think about how much land that is 511 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: almost two million acres. Will guess what h with twenty 512 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: five major fires already in and a lot of that 513 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: had to do with electrical storms and just small things 514 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: like this that we're discussing today occurring. Um, two point 515 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: three million acres have already burned in so that's insane. 516 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: Last year, do you remember hearing about wildfires in California 517 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: last year? Of course there were a bunch of last year. 518 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: To only a hundred and eighteen thousand acres burned last 519 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: year in totality. Well, and it's it's it's bonkers too 520 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: because California is so huge that these numbers they're staggering. 521 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: But I also, like, of all the people that we 522 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: work without in Los Angeles and of all the friends 523 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: that we all have out in California, I don't know 524 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: anybody personally that's actually been directly affected by these other 525 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: than the air quality which is apparently just horrible right now. 526 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: It's it's brown. And I was out there once. I 527 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: think we we all were once during some of these 528 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: wildfires last year. And in the air quality is noticeable, Um, 529 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: no matter where you are, you just smell smoke everywhere 530 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: you go. Um, and now it's apparently worse than ever. 531 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: So really, and any listeners out there, um, if you're 532 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: having to leave your homes or if things are scary, Um, 533 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: we're we're thinking about you. And um, it's it's no joke. 534 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 1: Don't do stupid like this. I would like to additionally 535 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: point out for frame of reference here, Matt, you said 536 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: one point eight nine million acres square acres. That's that's 537 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: around the size of the country of Luxembourg, slightly slightly 538 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: smaller than an entire European country burning to the ground. 539 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: And to be very clear, we are not saying that 540 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: having a gender reveal party makes you a bad person. 541 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: I think what we're saying though, is that maybe a 542 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: cake will be fine. Maybe maybe just slice a cake open, uh, 543 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: and and think about the fact that your child will 544 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: not be haunted by this story or would like it. 545 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: And and just to wrap it up on an ever 546 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: so slightly comical note. Uh. The woman credited with inventing 547 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: the gender revealed party, a fashion lifestyle blogger from San 548 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: Bernardino County, herself named Jenna carbonitis Um, has spoken out 549 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: after being dispossessed of her house as well or the 550 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: very least having to evacuate, saying, stop having these stupid parties. 551 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: For the love of God, stop burning things down to 552 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: tell everyone about your kids, penis no one cares about you. 553 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: What I'd like to do yours? Take us in a 554 00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: slightly darker direction as well for our next. For our next, 555 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: because people die in forest fires, and if you are 556 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 1: a fan of Carl Sandberg, you likely remember his poem 557 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: about grass in the fundamentally ephemeral nature of human beings, 558 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: Our next story contains a strange way to tell the 559 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: unwritten history of human beings in the natural world, even 560 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: decades or centuries past the time those human beings walk 561 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: the earth. And the answer is not exactly what you 562 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 1: might think. What are we talking about? We'll tell you 563 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: afterward from this sponsor. I'm gonna go catch up on 564 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: my Carl Sandberg. I'll be right back, guys, and we're 565 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: back to tell today's story in headline form. It's probably 566 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: best to say this if you're looking for decaying corpse 567 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: in the woods and the wilderness. For one reason or another, 568 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: foliage may help you. Trees and other types of plants 569 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: may grow differently around dead bodies. This is one of 570 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 1: those research questions that just gives you more questions about 571 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: the scientists involved, right, Like how many ideas did they 572 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: kick around and one person, you know, they said, oh, 573 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: we need some grant money. And then there was silence 574 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: in the room. Right this various pitches fell flat, and 575 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: then someone said, you know what I've been wondering about 576 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: for a while, you know how like you're in the 577 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: woods and you look for a dead body and like 578 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: the graves not fresh, and and you're like, oh, how 579 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: can I tell there is now there is now apparently 580 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: an answer to tell the story in non headline format. 581 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: We go to something very interesting in place that I 582 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: have personally always wanted to visit, just the next state 583 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: over from where we record this show in Tennessee. The 584 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: University of Tennessee has since so the forty years now 585 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: run a body farm. You've probably we've probably all heard 586 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: of this in some form or another, but they have 587 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: a forensic anthropology center and they study the decomposition of 588 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: human bodies in various different ways. Lots of questions they 589 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: are right. First off, where do the bodies come from? 590 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: They're donated officially, and they're donated I think with a 591 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: little bit more credibility than the the cadavers that are 592 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: part of the controversial bodies exhibits and museums throughout the US. 593 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: We know that these these were meant to be donated 594 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: to science. And one of the groups working at the 595 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: University of Tennessee said, well, we're looking at what happens 596 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: to bodies, you know, after various um after various types 597 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: of death, right violent, non violent, uh, you know, and 598 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: drowning so on, But what what happens to the soil 599 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: around them? And they thought of something that calls to 600 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: mind the image of a whale carcass sinking to the 601 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: ocean floor. When this happens, it is a tremendous boon 602 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: to the seafloor ecology. Right there there creatures that live 603 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: and die based on the passing of a whale and 604 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: other you know, large marine mammals. Of course, this group 605 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: in Tennessee they said, well, even though we know this 606 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: is a human being, every life is tragic when it's lost. 607 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: This is nutritionally speaking, a gigantic boom to all the 608 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: wildlife or foliage around. And this made me think like, 609 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: did you guys ever when you're young and like walking 610 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,240 Speaker 1: through cemeteries, did you ever notice how the grass grows 611 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: differently on over some graves? YEA, yeah, it's like a 612 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: little bit denser, right, it's weird. I think we all 613 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: make our own terrible inner beliefs when we're children, only 614 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: to later find out they're fanciful. But when I was 615 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: a kid, I thought that when I saw a grave 616 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: that had a lot of a lot of stuff growing 617 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: rich foiliage, I assumed that meant the person who was 618 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: buried there was a good person. And if I saw 619 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: agree that that had like a bad yard for the cemetery, 620 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: I assumed they were a horrible person. Right, yeah, pet 621 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: cemetery style. And uh, I was wrong. There are reasons 622 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: I want to clear that up. I was very wrong, 623 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: and I apologized to all the people who passed that 624 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: I fairly thought of a supervillains. But but there may 625 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: be a little bit of science to this morality aside 626 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: on multiple levels, this blast of nutrients could change the 627 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: color and what's called the reflectance of tree leaves. So 628 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 1: it's possible then that law enforcement authorities weren't just people 629 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: looking for bodies, could use a drone to scan a 630 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 1: forest and then find dead bodies based off that this 631 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: this sounds weird. You can read the full article in 632 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: a journal called Trends Implant Science but wire dot com 633 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: has a really good rite up of where we are 634 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: now with it, and it introduced some pretty crazy stuff. 635 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: I've never heard this phrase before. I proposed this be 636 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: our word of the day, necro Bio, have you ever 637 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: heard of that? I I think I can see what 638 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: you're putting down then, or where you're heading with this. Well, yeah, 639 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: it's all all the stuff that already lives inside of 640 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 1: us that eats its way out, and then all the 641 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: things outside of us that eat their way in. Yeah, 642 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: because we have to remember, if you, if you put 643 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: aside the concept of consciousness and you look at the 644 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: body itself. We talked about this years ago. The number 645 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: of bacterial cells in your body out number the cells 646 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: that you would consider you. No. Granted, the cells that 647 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: you consider you are much larger, right, but still we're 648 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: much less like a single individual and much more like 649 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: a very very very crowded apartment building or a walled city, 650 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: a nation state, a universe to ourselves. And that universe 651 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 1: does not stop when the brain function stops. Like you said, Matt, 652 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: the stuff living inside you, the immune system, is no 653 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 1: longer I guess, oppressing it from its viewpoint, so it 654 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: might rants out, and this stuff living out outside of 655 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: you no longer has the bouncers at the gate, right yeah, 656 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: and so it comes inside right now your body, like 657 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: especially in this part in that little center area, especially there, 658 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: there's around nine point five to ten million micro like 659 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,240 Speaker 1: bacterial creatures and other microbes that are just crawling around 660 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: inside and out right now? Can you feel it? Why 661 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: are you doing this to me? Man? Or is it 662 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: or is it just you? Or is it are they 663 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: just you too? Ben's point, I don't know, man, but 664 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,439 Speaker 1: that's us. That's us. And then and this is there's 665 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: an old brain stuff video this reminds me of. If 666 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: you're watching this on YouTube, go visit this one. It's 667 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: it's about the science of farts, and it waxes philosophical 668 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 1: at the end because the true story, the conspiracy about 669 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: parts is that you're not the one actually farty. Your 670 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: body is just sort of expelling gas produced by that 671 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: gut flora that lives inside of you. And so if 672 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: you like the vast majority of humanity farting average is 673 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty three times a day, we need to 674 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: realize it's not actually you doing that. And that leads 675 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: us to the bigger question, what are we farting inside of? 676 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like if is this like 677 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: a matrix type question? Is this like a simulation? It's 678 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: like a supersymmetry question. Yeah, kind of matrix. Because we 679 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: we know that we know that we are an aggregation 680 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 1: right of things, of experiences of elements, particles and quarks 681 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: and so like. Uh, but we don't often think about 682 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 1: what we are uh aggregated inside of what what are 683 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: we the bacteria of? And how does our environment change 684 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 1: our larger environment, the inner outer weather? I guess stop 685 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: this poetry kick, but this fascinating and sounds morbid, but 686 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,720 Speaker 1: I think it's really important because years ago, entire civilizations 687 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: and cities were being rediscovered by a technology called lidar, 688 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: which is able to from from elevation observe minute things 689 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: that are invisible to the human eye that let us 690 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: find huge missing chunks of the past. And so now 691 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: we have to naturally ask ourselves, are are we reaching 692 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: the future where we can compound disability, where we can 693 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: expand it such that like I am never going to 694 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: be able to look at a large shot of a 695 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: forest with an anomalous patch of color and not suspect 696 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: it might be a mass grave, even though I know 697 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: it's probably because they're just different trees. Right, Yeah, I 698 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: was reading a little more about this, Ben from that 699 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: Wired article you were talking about, and correct me if 700 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: I wrong with this. Phenal lalanine is an amino acid 701 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 1: that they believe, the people studying this out there in 702 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: Tennessee at the Body Farm, they believe something like that 703 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: that exists in the human body when it's when it's 704 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: released essentially by the dead body. Is that one of 705 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: the things, one of the uh components that actually causes 706 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: that higher fluorescence level within you know, the greenery, which 707 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,479 Speaker 1: is such a fascinating concept that that you were saying 708 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: been like getting a drone or something that can detect 709 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: that fluorescence like rolling around. I'm just imagining I'm imagining 710 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: that being a very common thing because if you, if 711 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: you could truly unlock this with these studies at the 712 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: body Farm to where you could find a dead body 713 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: anywhere that's been buried. Basically, um, we will just have 714 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: roaming drones that are like the body detection part of 715 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: your local police department, the official we called right, who 716 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: knows there's the other part two? We should emphasize I'm 717 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 1: glad you brought this up, just so you don't think 718 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: we ruined all wide shots of forests and nature and 719 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: so on. This fluorescence that you're describing that is invisible 720 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 1: to the human eye, if you will. Unless you have 721 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: some enhancements and you get all like shadow runs cyberpunk 722 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 1: with it, you're not going to be able to notice 723 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: this stuff. So, um, that may be really positive for 724 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: some people, and it may be really negative for others 725 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 1: because that means you won't know, well, you're right, you're 726 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 1: absolutely right. It's it's also negative because this same technology 727 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: that we're describing here is used to detect cannabis plants 728 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: and other black market plants that exist, because the fluorescence 729 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: levels are slightly different in those plants as compared to 730 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 1: the rest of a lot of the greenery that would 731 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: be around them. So it just means that the human 732 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,959 Speaker 1: body detectors are going to be born from the weed, 733 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: the rogue weed detectors, and they're gonna be dual use technology, 734 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: which has historically made complications whenever it exists. Right, nuclear Uh, 735 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: nuclear attack is probably the best example of that. But now, uh, 736 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: these sorts of drones and this sort of science. Maybe 737 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: another example very soon. Current research is centering on how 738 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 1: to differentiate the body of one living thing from a 739 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: human being, and it goes into some really like if 740 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: you're a fan of the crypt Keeper Tales from the 741 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: Crypt kind of stuff, it goes into some science that 742 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: is perfect for you in the crowd. Uh. And that again, 743 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: I think on the whole this is this is a 744 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: good thing, but it runs the risk of being a 745 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: dangerous thing because if drones can fly anywhere and the 746 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: pr reason they're doing so is to help recover the 747 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: body of a loved one, and then that becomes very 748 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: hard to fight back, even if they're being disingenuous. It's 749 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: a good point. I'm just imagining all those folks in 750 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: Tennessee looking at various dead mammals and then looking at 751 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 1: the spectrogram and studying it for a long time. We 752 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: have to run it through the spectrogram, hope it doesn't 753 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 1: get thrown in a bag in a parking lot in 754 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: California and then set and set on fire. Is how 755 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 1: we would bring that future situation back around and launched 756 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 1: out of a cannon. And I'm just gonna add that 757 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 1: in just for for fun. Oh, I was thinking more 758 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: of just and then it farted a bunch cannons the 759 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: new kind of fun it you said, Ben, that definitely 760 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: should be on a T shirt? What are we farting 761 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: inside of? Is this the right expression? I love that. 762 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to pose that question in my next philosophy 763 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: book group. You know, please tell me the tell me 764 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: the results were. We contain multitudes and most of them 765 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 1: definitely are parting. And I'm definitely in a philosophy book club. 766 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 1: Don't you dare question that associate on my part? There 767 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: there there somewhere as a species of giant extraterrestrials and 768 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: what they do. They've got the special drone that flies 769 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: around and checks planets and stars for the methane and 770 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: other gas releases from planets and atmospheres to check whether 771 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: or not there are viable micro organisms on the organisms. 772 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: And they're not looking for us. We're the vehicles. But 773 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: the things they in, all that stuff inside, just the 774 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: guts coming one frend your pals, Uh, Matt, Nol and 775 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 1: Ben and of course code ename doc Holiday. So stay 776 00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: tuned in a theater or zoom call hear you. We've 777 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: got to write the script. So that means I think 778 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: that we should call it a day. We've got to 779 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 1: get to our writer's room. This has been an episode 780 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 1: of Strange News. The conversation, as we established, does not 781 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: end when the podcast ends. We want to hear from you. 782 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 1: Hopefully We've We've made it kind of easy to find us. 783 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,479 Speaker 1: That's true, I would say so. I think we've checked 784 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 1: all the boxes. We've got all of the available communication 785 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 1: methods available to you. If you want, you can find 786 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 1: us on social media Instagram, Twitter, um, all that stuff 787 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: Facebook were conspiracy stuff. 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