1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Daily's 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: I T T Trenderini. That one courtesy of Vanadium Silver 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: and Italian brain rot. What's it? What's the original? Uh? 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: It depends on Chimpanzini Bani Banini or it could be 5 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 2: it could be it could be Sahur Toom Sahor is 6 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: the dumbest fucking one. 7 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: The whole thing is that one. Yeah, you've finally done it. 8 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: It'll explorted something that we like. 9 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: Where the fuck finally now we're talking about you. 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: It's been a while, I mean what it's been since. 11 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean Mario hits for sure. I mean it's a 12 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: pretty good. 13 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: The way when I first heard the Bom Sahor, I 14 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: realized it was a magical. 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: Italian what's it called? I know, Franco file is fresh? 16 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: What's it the Italy version? 17 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 2: Yeah? What Italy file? 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: Italo file? I think file. 19 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian the editor. 20 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: Brian the Editor coming through. 21 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: A person who admires Italian culture. That's me, well, but 22 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: only the brain me. I'm Italian Italian brain ratophile. 23 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about depressing news a little bit here. 24 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: Rafa Israeli forces have killed dozens of innocent people seeking aid. 25 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: In the last week. 26 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the death tolls up to like over I think 27 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: one hundred at this point. You know, because these like 28 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: sort of joint Israeli US AID stations distribution points have 29 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: been set up and Meny're like this is these are 30 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: nonsense operations, like this is not helping anyone, And the 31 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: starvation continues, saying people see what's going on here and 32 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: see it for what it is. But along with this 33 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: news somehow Matt Miller, if you remember, he was like 34 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: the fucking porcelain faced freak who is the spokesperson for 35 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: Biden's State Department, who would constantly obfuscate and defend what 36 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: was happening in Gaza and de Side. I don't even 37 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: know what it is. He has now recently come out 38 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: and said that he does believe that the Israelis have 39 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: committed war crimes. 40 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: The just in time. Yeah, truly to make himself sleep 41 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: a little bit better, would you, yeah? 42 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: Would you have come around to this if, if you know, 43 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: the if this administration had continued under Kamala Harris, what 44 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: are we what are we talking now? Are we just 45 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: now doing the thing? We're like, well, it's bad because 46 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: a Republican is at the seat of the empire now 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: and now we're suddenly against it. So yeah, just just 48 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: really really dark shit and yeah, nothing all the way 49 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: continue to fall apart. Yeah, yeah truly, Matt Miller. 50 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's like full explanations. Like the thing 51 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: about being the spokesperson for the president is like, I'm 52 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: not the spokesperson for myself. I'm saying my thoughts, just 53 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: defending the president's thoughts and take orders. Yeah, just taking orders. 54 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: That's never gone wrong, and nobody if I had stopped 55 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: doing that, you know, that's the impossibility. 56 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: Stop trying to compare yourself with a person with no 57 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: financial recourse and they get involved with something immoral or 58 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: illegal or something to survive, No motherfucker. You could leave, 59 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: just like the other people at the State Department did 60 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: when they're like this is fuckery and I'm not. I 61 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: don't want nothing to do with it. 62 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: There's also, you know, a lot of the refrain from 63 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: people has been like everybody's getting their news from TikTok, 64 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: and that's bad because it's unreliable. One of the reasons 65 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: that people are happy to get their news from TikTok 66 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: is because journalists have been completely banned from any of 67 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: the places that the Israeli army is attacking and committing genocide. 68 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: And attacking the journalists themselves. 69 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: Yes, so a group of journalists were actually invited to 70 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: visit Masafariyata in the West Bank, which is where that 71 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: Oscar winning documentary No Other Land was filmed, which is 72 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, constantly under attack from quote unquote settlers you know, 73 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: from you know, the idea and Israeli people trying to 74 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: you know, just invading their homes, attacking them and trying 75 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: to get them out. You know, it's like the front 76 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: lines of the Like getting you out of a place 77 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: where you still are called cleansing. I think that's the 78 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: word for it, thank you believe so. But the co 79 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: director literally invited them to his home and a convoy 80 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: of twenty reporters in press vehicles arrived and were detained 81 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: by balaklava wearing IDF soldiers. This is weird, like all 82 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: these soldiers suddenly worried about hiding their identity. That must 83 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: must just be yeah, I don't know. And the journalists 84 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: were given a reasonable time of ten minutes to leave 85 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: by somebody you know, holding an assault weapon. Prison right right, 86 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: and there's banned because Israeli forces claim they were causing 87 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: a public disturbance with their eyes taking in information. 88 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, never mind the bulldozers and the unraveling of humanity 89 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: all around you, which might be considered a larger public 90 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: disturbance than people trying to bear witness to the atrocities. 91 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 2: That's just so what a fucking shitty made up reason. 92 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: We obviously care very much about public disturbances here, so those. 93 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: Things being disturbed, like we're trying to keep things fucking 94 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: chill over here. Don't mind the bulldozer. 95 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: Sorry sorry. In small print, it says we do not 96 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: want people bringing added awareness to the atrocities that are 97 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: unfolding here in the West. 98 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: I find added awareness disturbing and I'm publicly said that. 99 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: So that's a public disturbance. 100 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: Ah okay, great. 101 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: In kind of positive I mean positive issues and. 102 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: Or suite or anything with this administration. 103 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: There were some ice rayds where a bunch of neighbors 104 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: kind of stood up to like the ice. It just 105 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: looked up looked like straight military wearing like full masks. 106 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: Did you see the guys who boarded a plane to 107 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: pull someone off during the day and they had night 108 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: vision goggles on their helmets. They looked like total dickheads, 109 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: and right now they're still dhs. People are like, where 110 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: are these people coming from? But you're like, that's are 111 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: they like militia fucks? How guys, you're supposed to know 112 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: the difference. They look like straight up militia people. Yeah, 113 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: it was kind of like, no, these are people that 114 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: are federal, they've been deputy. You're like it was so vague. 115 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: You're like, Okay, I don't even. 116 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: Was I supposed to know that from the bandana around 117 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: their face and the like, uh San Antonio Spurs championship 118 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: T shirt that they were wearing, Like, what's the fucking 119 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: U uniform here? 120 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, because like you know, you see the optics. Plenty 121 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: of us have seen these clips of like the Icetoppo 122 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: gangs raiding a construction site or a farm or a 123 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: fucking elementary school, you know, places where the onlookers go, Yeah, 124 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: that's where all the worst fucking people are at a 125 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: construction site, farm or elementary school or on their way 126 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: to school. You know, people who really need to be 127 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: fucking just cast aside and taken away. But again, I 128 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: think all of this has a tremendous effect on everybody, 129 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: you know, even if you're not directly affected by it. 130 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: You know, maybe you see your parents or grandparents or 131 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: close friends in these people that are being fucking whisked away. 132 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: Or maybe you feel gratitude because by some fucking weird 133 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: chance you your family immigrated here and the quote unquote 134 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: right way or whatever, and now you enjoy American citizenship 135 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: somewhat undisturbed. But like, one thing is clear, all of 136 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: this cruelty is not resonating with a group of voters 137 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: Trump captured a huge segment of in twenty twenty four, 138 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: and that's Latino voters. So like in Pence, that was 139 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: a state where he made huge gains, but that honeymoon 140 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: has already ended, it seems. So he secured forty one 141 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: percent of the Latino vote in the last election. That's 142 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: up from twenty seven percent in twenty twenty, and a 143 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: lot of that has to do with young men moving 144 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: to the right, and that fourteen point increase narrow Democratic 145 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: margins from forty two points in twenty twenty to eighteen 146 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: points in twenty twenty four. So this is not insignificant, 147 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: especially if you're thinking about the same math for midterms 148 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: and what that means for mid terms if there are 149 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: free and fair midterm elections. Right now, his support from 150 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 2: that group is down to twenty seven percent. Okay, we're 151 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: up from getting forty one percent of the vote in 152 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four to now twenty seven percent. Appeal will 153 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: be like, no, this is I can't. I want nothing 154 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: to do with this. So right now, I think this 155 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: is something that's unfolding. But this feels like one of 156 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 2: those stories where like the DNC would be like, yes, 157 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: the support's going down, right yeah, because their primary strategy 158 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 2: is to just passively watch his approval numbers go down 159 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: and then pop out every couple of years and be like, 160 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: what about a new flavor of disappointing anyone? And you know, 161 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: this kind of movement is exactly the kind of moment 162 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: where an opposition party that has their shit together would 163 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: identify a void and then fill it with policy that 164 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: has wider appeal. Like it doesn't even have to be 165 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: condemnation of Trump's policies, although that would help, but I 166 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: know how cowardly some of the Democrats are. It just 167 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: needs to be a well articulated policy on immigration that 168 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: isn't anchored by the fear that their opposition will paint 169 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: them as like MS thirteen share leaders, And it's just like, 170 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 2: that's what's so frustrating is the Democrats constantly play within 171 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 2: the republicans h zero sum framework of how all of 172 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: this works. 173 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: One of the most bad faith people saying about us, Yeah, 174 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: that's okay, we need to worry about. 175 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: So that's the floor, that's the space we will operate from, 176 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: and then we will spend all our time trying to 177 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: justify why these people should have dignity, should be treated 178 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: with dignity. And that's their biggest messaging issue, just they 179 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: operate in the reality where Fox News headlines are the facts, 180 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 2: and then they have to contend with that rather than 181 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: ignoring that bullshit and just speaking truth and being like, 182 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: I don't give a shit what you say, Like that's 183 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: not what's going on, Like fucking ask anyone who lives 184 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: in this country. That's not how they feel. That's just 185 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: what you're saying to try and get people on board 186 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: with your xenophobia. But again they're like, well, just like 187 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: all the hand ringing about what to do about immigration 188 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: is so frustrating when you're like dude, just fucking go 189 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: out there and be like, these are human beings, man, 190 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: and we need to find a way if things are 191 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: bad in their country and they're seeking refuge, that we 192 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: have a way for them to find safety. And maybe 193 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: in a larger, you know, foreign policy extent, you can 194 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: talk about how to bring stability to those countries. But 195 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: that's that's probably a bridge too far for these. 196 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: Now, we gotta we gotta do some polling to figure 197 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: out how AOC is testing with the ICE agents with 198 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: the masks on. We got to figure out what they 199 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: think and then try and adjust her positions to make 200 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: them like her better. 201 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: Okay, what can we also get some poll on how 202 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 2: people feel about her? Which she wears bamboo earrings? 203 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: The like the thing in San Diego. So last week 204 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: there was like this immigration and customs enforcement work rate 205 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: at two Italian restaurants in kind of like a trendy 206 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: neighborhood in San Diego, and like a lot of people 207 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: like came out in the streets and were like protesting 208 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: them and like kind of pushing them back. The fucking 209 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: ICE agents used flashbangs on the people. Like it seems 210 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: like a pretty easy case to make that they're losing 211 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: the public opinion battle here. Yeah, but uh yeah, like 212 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: you said, should be easy to just be like, we're 213 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: we're we're gonna do something different what they're doing. 214 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: Y'all love to say, look at what they're doing, right, 215 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: then fucking go back to that habit at the very least. 216 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 2: And I know, like, obviously there are Democrats that are 217 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 2: talking about this, but again they're lack of unity when 218 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: you have Hakeem Jeffries, who's like, what about Representative Jerry 219 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: Nadler was put in hand cuffs by DHS in his 220 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 2: own office, what do you have to say about that? 221 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: He was like, we're going to be We're gonna be strategic, 222 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: and we will respond in a time and place of 223 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: our choosing. Oh, and it will be and there will 224 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: be a response. It's like, no, there won't be. And 225 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: this is fucking terrible that you're taking this long to 226 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: react to this kind of shit. 227 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll be 228 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: right back, and we're back. 229 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 2: We're back. 230 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: I just saw Obama share this like Axios article that 231 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: is just like, I mean, it's kind of more of 232 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: the same. It's just a guy who runs an AI 233 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: firm being like you, guys, we got to stop lying 234 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: and admit that we're about to put everybody out of work. Yeah, 235 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: all white collar entry level jobs are going away. Unemployment's 236 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: gonna spike like to ten to twenty percent in the 237 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: next one to five years, which I'm sure it could. 238 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: Like we've talked before about how like a lot of 239 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: jobs are bullshit jobs, and but like, I don't I 240 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: don't think the technology is any better than I did 241 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: yesterday or last month. My only experience with people using 242 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: AI in an official like work capacity is like the 243 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: AI not being up to the task, and then they 244 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: have to go back and be like, well, we're still interested, 245 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: but it's just not quite there. 246 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Jack. Do you have your window open? Because 247 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: I hear a bird song? 248 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? Is that all right? No? 249 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: I was just I was tripping because I'm like, yo, am. 250 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: I I did. I just I need the I need 251 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: the sunlight. 252 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: I hate Uncle Jemimah's mash liquor, too hard hearing these birds. 253 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: Got those birds in the bastard. 254 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: You get the bird song apout. 255 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: I don't have it out, but I'm pretty sure it's 256 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: a California talhy. But here there you go fucking and 257 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: then see if see if I got that right, Let 258 00:13:52,760 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: me see if it Ah, fuck Buick's wren. Oh you 259 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: Wick Regal. 260 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 2: It's a Buick red damn it. 261 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: It's just a horn. 262 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: No. 263 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: I did hear a bird thing and thought that it 264 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: was the sound of a car door unlocking earlier. 265 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: Oh well, but aren't there like those like mocking birds 266 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: kind of pick up on those sounds. 267 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they do. 268 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: They hear them so much. 269 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: I actually picked up a northern mocking bird the other day, like, 270 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: not with my hands on my app Jack picked it 271 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: up and kiss now kid my life with your other 272 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: ticon me. Yeah, my life is like a snow white 273 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: at the beginning of that movie. Just birds landing on. 274 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: Me, putting on your stones before you podcast. 275 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: That's right, But yeah, I think it still sucks. But 276 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: I also think like CEO's interest in adoption of the 277 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: technology seems to be like picking up steam. 278 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: That's the most frightening thing. Yes, you saw this with 279 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: the metaverse years ago, like Web three, but this feels 280 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: different because the metaverse is demonstrably a stupid fucking idea, 281 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, But all I'm saying is like it's 282 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: like a buzzword that goes around Wall Street. They'd be going, yeah, 283 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: we're doing that here too, We're doing that here too. 284 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: And that's what I mean is like that sort of 285 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: parroting imitation of what other C suites are doing. That's 286 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: what's frightening. Oh yeah, we're doing doing a I think 287 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: too for savings. 288 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think they're really gonna do Like I 289 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: think they're just going to leap before like they have 290 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: evidence that it can work, because it like is not 291 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: going to They're never going to get evidence and it's 292 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: going to work. 293 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, all we have is evidence that it doesn't because 294 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: we haven't left yet. 295 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot. That's when we figure it out. Yeah, dude, 296 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: But they seem I don't know. I also have the 297 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: sense that like people at the highest level of companies 298 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: are pretty insulated from like what is working, what is 299 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: actually like driving value, like with the reasons that they're 300 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: like consumers actually like the thing, and all they you know, 301 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: their head is fully in the world of like Wall 302 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: Street and what Wall Street thinks is like interesting or 303 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: a good idea. And yeah, I mean we we talked recently. 304 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: It's just going to be an excuse for corporations to 305 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: get a reset on what they pay their employees because 306 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: they'll use the AI thing as an excuse to fire 307 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of employees and then they'll have to hire 308 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: them back when their product is not as good because 309 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: the AI technology is like not where it needs to be. 310 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: And then but as contract worker, yeah, they'll bring them 311 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: back a contract where it's like in the same way 312 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: that the pandemic was an excuse for them to just 313 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: reset what they charged things. They're like, we've got these 314 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: supply supply chain problems going on, so we're gonna ramp 315 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: up the price, and holy shit, people are still buying 316 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: stuff because they need to great Like I think they're 317 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: That's what that's how this is going to function. 318 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: I mean, that's what happened in that Klarna example. You 319 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: know where exactly going hapen, And I feel like that 320 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: maybe where they go, what is this what is this 321 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: kombucha here of Oh, you can hire back as contract 322 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: workers and I get benefits. 323 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: Oh oh okay, yeah, just the financial incentives for companies 324 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: are totally disconnected from any sort of reality or like 325 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: the products that they're selling. 326 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: It every time, from the Klarna executive to other companies 327 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: that talk about the AI integration like their company's about 328 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: to embark on. It's always discussed in terms of quote 329 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 2: unquote savings, which again for it's Wall Street talk to 330 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: our shareholders will get money, Yeah, it will make line 331 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: go up. Okay, And I don't know, maybe I have 332 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: that old proverb wrong. Maybe it is greed is the 333 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: mother of all invention, that's right, But yeah, this is 334 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: just that's what really scares me is that none of 335 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 2: this is actually looked in terms of what the experience, 336 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: like how this helps your product, how this helps your workers, 337 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: how this helps their day to day or whatever. It's 338 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: purely how much how do I how do I like 339 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: kind of save some money that I could just kind 340 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: of snort back up into the shareholders. Wow? 341 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: Wow, it is going to be interesting. Brian the editor 342 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: points out, it went once everybody is broken, homeless, and 343 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: they supposedly have AI running everything, who do they think 344 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: is going to buy anything? 345 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: They haven't thought that far, and then at that point 346 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 2: they're just going to try and just you know, completely 347 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: nullify our ability to receive meaningful Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 348 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: All of that shit. That's why, like even that quote 349 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: from the CEO. It like reeks of this Sam altman 350 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: cyanide quote where it's like, we gotta be honest, guys, 351 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: we're about to fucking fuck over ten to twenty percent 352 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: of the workforce. If that's the case, fuck you and 353 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 2: you should fucking go get fucked. If you're actually sitting 354 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: at the wheel thinking like this is actually gonn affect 355 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: ten to twenty percent of people's employment and their ability 356 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: to exist under capitalism, then actually you are the ops 357 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: and like what the fuck are you? What are we 358 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: talking about? Then you need to rethink what your product does. 359 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: If you're like, yeah, the effect of this is going 360 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: to be fucked up. 361 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: But I think Obama like buying in and being like, 362 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: let me be clear, we should we should look at 363 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: this like is I think that's significant? Like he's the 364 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: pope of neoliberalism, you know. 365 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: Of course, hope Nvidia the ninth. 366 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: Louisiana passed a build This is in some good news. 367 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: Louisiana passed to build a band KEMP trails. So fine, 368 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: someone stopthing. That's gonna be so funny, like if they 369 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: it just passed the House and now it has to 370 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: go to the state Senate. But like, just are they 371 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: just gonna be like sitting there watching the planes go by, 372 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: because like KEMP trails are not. That's just like cut, 373 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: what happens with the planes sliding through the Yeah, I 374 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: want to see him try. This is one that like, 375 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see Louisiana cut put together the 376 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: science on how they're going to ban KEEM trails slash 377 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: contrails from the sky over what are they going to do? 378 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 2: Right? Because the whole thing is the measure directs the 379 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 2: Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality to record reported chemtrail sightings 380 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: and pass complaints to the Air National Guard. 381 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a database of stupid. 382 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 2: Lawmakers removed penalties for violations, opting instead for further investigation 383 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: and document. Yeah, because they're gonna be they're gonna like, yeah, 384 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: come up there with us, look in the fucking plane. 385 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: We're not doing anything. It's fucking water. 386 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: They should I mean that that'll be a blat and 387 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: once they see that, they'll, uh, everything will be cleared 388 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: up and they'll move off it. 389 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: So fucking stupid. 390 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: Brian the editor was pointing out, they could just like 391 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: go hang off the wing like Tom Cruise. 392 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: Taste it all right, now it's water. It's water. Actually 393 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: I want to come back inside them loseing my gram. 394 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: And then in really devastating news to close out kind 395 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: of a bad news day. But the actor from Parks 396 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: and rec Jonathan Joss, Yeah, most famously voice of John 397 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: On red Corn of King of the Hill, was also 398 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, made appearances on Parks and Rec. So he 399 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: was murdered in a hate crime and just has been 400 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: revealed the extent of the interaction that led to his 401 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: shooting death. And it's it's just wild. I mean it's 402 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: he was murdered by a homophobic monster and like a 403 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: total hate wild. 404 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: So his husband posted sort of like a breakdown of 405 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: what happened then on TMZ. Now they have quotes from 406 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: their neighbors like there was no homophobia. It wasn't homophobic 407 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: at all. It's just that they hated each other. I'm like, 408 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: what does that even mean? And then like now they're 409 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: saying like he used to bang pot like this guy 410 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 2: Jonathan just he was a real bad neighbor. And I'm like, 411 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 2: what is I having such trouble believing this? Like this 412 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 2: feels so weird. The police are like, we have no 413 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: evidence of a hate crime. I don't know. According to 414 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: Jonathan Joss's husband, this guy was saying wild racial slurs 415 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: and apparently there was like the skull of their dog 416 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: like that. 417 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what. 418 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: It's a terrible story, but are the headlines at first 419 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: or that he died not even murdered. And then I'm like, oh, 420 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: he passed away, and then you like click, then I 421 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 2: clicked and argument like, oh my god, he was fucking 422 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: murdered by his neighbor. What the fuck happened? Like in 423 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 2: a disagreement. Then we got this post from his husband 424 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: with some more details, and now like these counter reports 425 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: that it's like, I don't know whatever that guy, whatever 426 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 2: they're saying is like it is not true regardless, absolutely 427 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 2: fucked up and terrible. But yeah, it's just like I'm 428 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: like really confused why TMC is like now like no. 429 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: Homophobias murderers version. 430 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: Of events, Yeah, exactly. 431 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: And but then like he's the comment section on there 432 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: completely melted and sounded like he wasn't a good guy. 433 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: It's like, what are you talking about? Because you're because 434 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: you had a dispute with your neighbors anyway, really really 435 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 2: really devastating loss. Yea, yeah, please, I hope they sort 436 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 2: this fucking situation out so I don't have to read 437 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: weird contradicting shit in tmz wor, which I always go 438 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: for all of my hardcore news. 439 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. Every one of these news stories. By the way, 440 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: every one of these stories was sourced from TMZ. So 441 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: except for the kinds of stuff yeah yeah, no, no, no, 442 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: they don't talk about that. That is gonna do it 443 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: for this afternoon's episode. 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