1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Car Stories with Some 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: King and Amelia Hartford. Today we have a very special guest. 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we get to share the man behind the myth, 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: his myth to the madness if you will. 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: And he's not afraid to really open up. We talked 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: about physical, mental health, his business, how he's come to 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: where he is today, where he started, where he hopes 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: to go. 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just a great ambassador for the car community. 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: The way he keeps, you know, the enthusiasm for the 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: content that he makes and why he does what he does. 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: Was just a very inspirational conversation. 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's clear that he loves what he does. Without 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: further ado, James Pumphrey. 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: It's so interesting to meet somebody in person, James, because 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: like your persona on screen, Oh yeah, is like so big, 17 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: then when you meet in person. 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,119 Speaker 3: You're downright quiet, you are. Yeah. 19 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 4: I always say, like when we have new hosts, I'm like, 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 4: be one hundred and twenty percent of your personality, and 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 4: so like I think I'm generally one twenty to one 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty percent of myself on camera, but then 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 4: like in real life, like I always tell people if 24 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 4: I acted like that, all the time. I wouldn't have 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: any friends that would be the most annoying person who 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 4: I was just like a. 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: Baby. 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd just be like impossible to be around. And 29 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: I also think I'm like a pretty shy person, like 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: in general, you know, like I came up doing comedy, 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: like that's what I moved to La to do, and 32 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 4: so like I think being on stage and being in 33 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 4: front of the camera just like yelling is like the 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 4: way that I am personable. Whereas like I'd much rather 35 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: talk to like three hundred people than one person. 36 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: For sure. 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 4: I don't like parties very much. Same I don't like 38 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 4: I like the talking at not so much the interaction. 39 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: It seems like that's common thread with a lot of 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: people from comedy is that their stage persona is so 41 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: different from their off stage Yeah. 42 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: I think, like, yeah, my on screen persona is like 43 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: who I want to be, and no one can talk back. 44 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 3: This is getting a. 45 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: Real deep, real fast it happens, yeah, and so no 46 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 4: one can chime in, I'm just talking. 47 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: Do you find it exhausting to socialize? 48 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: Uh? 49 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like what is that like your social battery? I 50 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 4: definitely think my social battery gets drained I'm trying to 51 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 4: be better about it though, especially now that I'm like older, 52 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: like I've been doing Donut for almost eight years now, 53 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 4: and so like there's like a number of like kids 54 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: who when they meet me, like that's like something that 55 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 4: means something to them. So I'm trying to be more 56 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 4: like give them like the experience that they want to 57 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 4: like take away and be like, oh, I'm at James 58 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: from Donut versus like me being like, oh, I'm just 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 4: like shy and they're like okay, but I'm like fifteen, 60 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: you know, so it's like it's not it's I have 61 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 4: to like overcome my insecurities and and you know, give 62 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: people what they want. 63 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: I can relate with that because when people meet me, 64 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: they think that they're going to meet Han and they 65 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 2: end up meeting like the grouchy guy. Yeah that's insecure. 66 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: Yeah you lucked down. 67 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: You made your like best known on screen persona like stoic, 68 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 4: Like I wish I would have done that, Like looking back, 69 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 4: like I'm like, dang, like I wish I would have been. 70 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: Like good looking dude. Staring at stuff is like eating snacks, 71 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: eat like you really like you picked a good one. 72 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: I mean you'd be surprised how many snacks I get 73 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: is like gifts from fans. But it's interesting when fans 74 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: think like you are the person that they see on 75 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: screen for sure, and at the end of the day, 76 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: we're just people with like people problems too. 77 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I got a lot of problems. 78 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's something that I relate with you is like, 79 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: you know, when I was younger, people would see me 80 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: and they're like, can I get this picture? You know, 81 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: and you know I would many times I would say no, yeah, 82 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: because I'm you know, doing my own thing. And then 83 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: Dwayne Johnson actually shared this with me, you know, like 84 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: I asked him. I was like, hey, you're way more 85 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: famous than me, and you've been famous for a long time. 86 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: How do you deal with like the fans? And he 87 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: put it in this like really amazing, like zam perspective. 88 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: He said, you know, there are very few people in 89 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: this world that it's gifted with the opportunity to make 90 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: somebody happy just by asking their name, yeah, you know, 91 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: putting your hand on their shoulder and taking a picture, 92 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: you know, because it might mean the world for them 93 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: for that day or that week, or for their life. 94 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: If you look at it that way, like you know, 95 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: there is a responsibility and a great opportunity. 96 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 4: Definitely, That's definitely something I've come around too, because, like 97 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 4: I mean, I made no means like super famous, but 98 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: I'm more famous than I thought it would be, you know, 99 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 4: like I get recognized in the store, and it got 100 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 4: to a point where I was like annoyed by it. 101 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 4: Then like one day I just kind of like opened 102 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 4: my eyes and was like, who am I to like 103 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 4: be annoyed by this? You know, because those people like 104 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 4: are one hundred percent responsible for really my entire life, 105 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: you know, like my house and my cars and the 106 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 4: fact that I get to do what I really like 107 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 4: to do with my friends every day, Like that's my job. Yeah, 108 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 4: like you said, like making someone happy, like that's like 109 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: an extension of it. And you know, I really have 110 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 4: turned it around and realize like how fortunate I am 111 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 4: to be able to like have some kid, you know, 112 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 4: make his day by like seeing me at sprouts. 113 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: In the produce section. 114 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 3: Well, dude, do you like vegetables too? What do you 115 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: got carrots? Due? Carrots? Dude? For sure? 116 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 4: I mean I was definitely like uncomfortable with it though, 117 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 4: for sure, Like early on. 118 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: You have to learn I think you have to grow 119 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: into it, yeah, and then find purpose behind it. Yeah, 120 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: and then it becomes a positive thing opposed to you 121 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: like running away from it, right. 122 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 4: And I think it was also like in being like 123 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: in this situation or whatever, like you welcome criticism a lot, 124 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 4: people correcting my videos, and you know, like I put 125 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 4: so much into my work and creation is like a 126 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 4: very vulnerable process and so like whatever we put out 127 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 4: is like a representation of ourselves. And like when somebody 128 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 4: who like you don't know, is like, hey, you suck. 129 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 4: Like I think early on that really like affected me 130 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 4: and I think probably influenced like those feelings of like 131 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: just like. 132 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: Let me be Yeah, you get older and stop caring 133 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: what people think. 134 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I would really hate it if people stop 135 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 4: liking me, you know. That's I think that also contributes 136 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: to me being cool with it now, is like what 137 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 4: if they stop coming up to me, Like then I'm 138 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 4: in trouble, you know. 139 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: So, I mean we hear it all the time with 140 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 2: the fast movies. You know, they're like those movies suck 141 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: and oh yeah, you guys suck and you're sucky. 142 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: Actor. 143 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: I had to shift my mindset as well, and like 144 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: hate comments, hate mail even and a lot of just negativity. 145 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: It's like, well, you're a comment on my video. I 146 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed the video, hero because you watched it 147 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: enough to have this opinion. 148 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure you don't. I mean, with so 149 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 4: many more levels, like being a woman in this industry, 150 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 4: you sure you're recognizing the fact that you're a woman 151 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: or that you. 152 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: Either way. 153 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: You know. 154 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, people have some audacity, but they're the ones who 155 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 4: watched the videos. 156 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: Actually, Yeah, stepping back now, I admire these people that 157 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: give negative criticism because damn, like first you have the 158 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: time to do that, and then you have the energy 159 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: to spew out that hate because that's not easy, man. 160 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 161 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 4: I mean sometimes we get like legit good criticism that's 162 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 4: like not necessarily positive, and like we'll take it to 163 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 4: heart and like kind of we've shifted like last year 164 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 4: around like the end of last year beginning of this year, 165 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: we kind of like got too far into like YouTube 166 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: and our fans like let us know what's that mean 167 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 4: to you to be so like we're playing like the 168 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 4: YouTube game in addition to like doing what we want, 169 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 4: like we rarely work on our own cars. That's like 170 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 4: just one way to do it, is like you build 171 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: cars and like people like watch it or whatever. But 172 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 4: then like we play like the YouTube game, you know, 173 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 4: and like we think of like what's going to perform 174 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 4: well on YouTube almost before like or at the same 175 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 4: time as like what's valuable as like a car thing 176 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 4: that's like a very delicate rope to walk, you know, 177 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 4: like between being like click baity or being like two niche. 178 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 4: Like from the beginning, we've always said, like I want 179 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 4: to make car videos that my aunt would watch. You 180 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 4: don't have to like cars, but if you do like cars, 181 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: then like that's like this is your shit, right, And 182 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: so like at one point, I think, like last summer 183 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: we hit just not even car. 184 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: Like I think the video. 185 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 4: That we all kind of agree was like us jumping 186 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 4: the shark, was we filled an engine with blood. Yeah, 187 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 4: not a lot of people did, but like I still 188 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: think we could have pulled it off. 189 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: We could have made a good video about it. 190 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, we like went to the butcher bought a 191 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 4: bunch of pigs blood and we were like, well, like 192 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: blood is just oil for your body, and so like 193 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: we put like a bunch of stuff in an engine 194 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: and then like finally. 195 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: You put blood in that see if it would run. 196 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: Blood and an engine to see if would run, and 197 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 4: like we were shooting it and we were like, this 198 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 4: is not good. 199 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: This is gross. 200 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 4: Like I think Pete is gonna shut us down, like 201 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 4: it's stunk, Like blood is gross. 202 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, so like our audience was like, what 203 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 3: are you guys doing and we're like, yeah, you're right. 204 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 4: So we kind of like refocused because like, yeah, everything 205 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: has to be actual car and. 206 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: Not if you're in the business to get views on YouTube, 207 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: it's certainly become more of a stunt based platform than 208 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: it has. 209 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: Wrenching we're still making videos around the same time. Yeah, right, 210 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 4: And like back then, like Nicetat was like god of YouTube, 211 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 4: but yeah, it was like very lifestyle, very like oh 212 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 4: the this is a way to like get a more 213 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 4: intimate look at like these people that I admire, and 214 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 4: you know, like yeah, a lot more vloggy stuff, a 215 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 4: lot more video essays, which is like what we started doing, 216 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 4: and now like it is like big stunt, big title 217 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 4: influenced stuff. 218 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: I've always been curious about, first your origin story, Like 219 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if the listening audience knows, like how 220 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: did you become the persona that you are or the 221 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 2: person that you are? Because first, you know what I 222 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: love about you, James is when I watch the videos, 223 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: I use this like you know, analogy. Your headlights are 224 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: on full, like you know, they're like on high beam, 225 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: And anytime I have a question about anything carbulated, I 226 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: go straight to you because you make it so fun. 227 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: Thank you, and you know you shared with us briefly 228 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: that you know you started in comedy. But how did 229 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: this journey start? Like like where did it begin? 230 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 231 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: So, like I as a kid, I like two things. 232 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 4: I liked comedies and cars. Like I remember like a 233 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: Z thirty two three hundred DX I saw at the airport, 234 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 4: like my parents were divorced and my dad was taking 235 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: me to the airport to go back to my mom's 236 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 4: house and I saw three hundred DX. 237 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: I was like, oh no, I like these. 238 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 4: Similarly, in fourth grade, I saw Billy Madison and like 239 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: my dad loved like comedy and stuff. But like Adam 240 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 4: Sandler was like the first dude who me and my 241 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 4: friends like got And I think that's very like a 242 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 4: very similar parallel to like, oh I liked imports, and 243 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: I liked Japanese cars and like European cars, where like 244 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 4: my dad liked muscle cars and like old British cars. 245 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 4: So like it was kind of at the same time, 246 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 4: these two things that like were mine and like the 247 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 4: first time I had taste that was different than what 248 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 4: was just fed to me. Those two things are just 249 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 4: like the main constant through my life. So like I've 250 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 4: always had a dumb car, and being a comedian has 251 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: always been like my dream. So when I was nineteen, 252 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 4: I moved to Los Angeles from Louisville, Kentucky, and say Louisville. 253 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 4: I do, because I'm not like I grew up all 254 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 4: over the Southeast but landed in Louisville. 255 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 3: I went to high school there, so that's why I. 256 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 4: Say I'm from there, but yeah, Louisville, it's also acceptable. 257 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, I moved here from Louisville. 258 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: And this theater called Upraad Citizens Brigade was just opening 259 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: their La branch and I just got in really early 260 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 4: and like luckily got like a bunch of stage time 261 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 4: and was able to work with like a bunch of 262 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: people that I had seen in movies. 263 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: Like an improv group. 264 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, so like I did a lot of improv, a 265 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 4: lot of improv and then sketch comedy. So like I 266 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 4: had a number of sketch groups. 267 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 3: I had a group called the Midnight Show. 268 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 4: It was a monthly show and we all like lived 269 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 4: in this big mansion on Wilton in Hollywood together and 270 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 4: we would like argue about comedy like as a science, 271 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 4: like there's like rules that make things funny, right, and 272 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 4: like that's like really how we approached it, and like 273 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 4: what just the nerdiest stuff like listening to like National 274 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 4: Lampoon Radio Hour, or like watching like scenes from movies 275 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 4: and like pausing them and being like all right, so 276 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 4: what's the game in this scene? Really just like dissecting 277 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 4: really making comedy not fun, but we'd like, yeah, getting 278 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 4: fistfights or what's funny? And did some movie stuff? Was 279 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: on some TV shows? 280 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: Was this all through people you met at UCB? Was 281 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: this through an agent? How did you get these opportunities 282 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: early on? I? 283 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got like representation pretty early when I was younger. Yeah, 284 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 4: And like I was doing Hollywood pretty hard, So I 285 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 4: was like going auditions a whole lot, and like I 286 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: was just like so tired. 287 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: Of doing it. Three or four years in a row. 288 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 4: I was like tested multiple times for like a sitcom 289 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 4: during pilot season, you guys know, but if you don't 290 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: for like two months in the spring they cast all 291 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 4: the new TV shows, and so like I would be 292 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 4: going to like eleven auditions a week, and so like 293 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 4: that's like eleven job interviews that I'm not getting. But 294 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 4: every single one of those job interviews could potentially make 295 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 4: me a millionaire, you know, if like a show gets 296 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 4: picked up. I remember my manager telling me, he's like, 297 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 4: if you get in syndication, then that's fucking You'll have 298 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: like fifteen million dollars. And I was like, yo, I 299 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: don't have any dollars. So I get just like this 300 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 4: constant up and down. So like when I started with Donut, 301 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: like this guy Ben Conrad who directed a lot of 302 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: the Jim Connas, I just wanted to be around him, 303 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 4: and I was like done being on camera. And I 304 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 4: thought like, oh, I'll just like shadow Ben. He can 305 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: mentor me, and I'll be a director and I'll just 306 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: like direct commercials and like that'll be my job. And 307 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: kind of did that for a year. And my boss 308 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: at the time at Donnut was like, make one video 309 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 4: with you in it where you tell the history of 310 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: a car, any car, just do it and put it 311 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 4: out and like I was like all right, So like 312 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 4: I did. 313 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: And that was the first episode of Up to. 314 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 4: Speed and it got like three million views on Facebook 315 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 4: in like twenty four hours. And he was like, all right, cool, 316 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 4: you gotta do that every week. And that was seven 317 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 4: years ago. So in some form or fashion, been doing 318 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: that ever since. 319 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: So is the acting hat just kind of hung up? 320 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 4: It's weird, Like I was totally like done, but like 321 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 4: I feel like this year, like, oh, I don't know 322 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 4: what I want to do, you know, Like I feel 323 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 4: like maybe there's some sort of next chapter coming up. 324 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. 325 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: It'd be a shame for you not to like spread 326 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: your wings because yeah, you're so funny. 327 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: Dude, Thank you man, I appreciate it. 328 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: You're so talented, because how do you make car information 329 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: content like so entertaining? Yeah, that's that's that's a gift. 330 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's your superpower. You know. 331 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: Well, you guys have done so well, I would say, 332 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: leading the carnistry. Can I say that? 333 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: Sure? 334 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not technically the I think we're like the 335 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 4: fifth biggest automotive YouTube channel. But I do think like 336 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 4: our other businesses and stuff like all combined, I think 337 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 4: we have a pretty big footprint. 338 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: It's really cool to hear your journey because for the 339 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: listeners out there, it's a testament to how sometimes when 340 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,359 Speaker 2: you think like you have a certain road that you're following, 341 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: and then there's a roadblocke, these other doors or these 342 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: other windows open and that journey that you were initially 343 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: on actually prepared you for the whole Downut thing. 344 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: For sure. 345 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely I am more aware now than I was then. 346 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 4: How fortunate, like the timing of this whole thing was 347 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 4: because like these three guys, who were very experienced in 348 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 4: all of the stuff that I'm not good at, were 349 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 4: just like, hey, we're starting this company. You and Jesse 350 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 4: our chief creative officer, and like my main like creative partners, 351 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 4: just like you can do whatever you want creatively, and 352 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: so like we were just given like all this space 353 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 4: to like fail like a lot, like you know, take 354 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 4: a lot of swings and like come up with something 355 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 4: that at least works for now consistently. And I think 356 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 4: one of the strong things about the Donut team is that, 357 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 4: like you know, We're never satisfied, I guess, so, like 358 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: we're constantly like evolving what it means to be donut. 359 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 4: And I think that early like encouragement to do things 360 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 4: that might not work continues to be like part. 361 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 3: Of what we do. 362 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: Does it get scary to try new things because it's 363 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: not very forgiving on YouTube. If you put something out 364 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: that flops, you may not be promoted again for the 365 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: next post. 366 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, YouTube right now at least rewards consistency. I've always 367 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 4: like really enjoyed being creative within confined, like whether it's 368 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 4: like budget or like just like resources or like rules 369 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: or like I think that's why, like the way that 370 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 4: I approached was like, all right, there's like all these rules, 371 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 4: you know, like you set up a reality. All right, 372 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 4: we're all on the same page. Like the audience knows 373 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 4: that this is the reality. Then you break the reality. 374 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 4: That's the joke, and so like then you return back 375 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 4: to the reality and like we kind of catch them 376 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: off guard, break that same joke again. That's the second 377 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 4: be And like I always like kind of liked rules. 378 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 2: Gotta know the rules to break them. 379 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I'm a big, big proponent of knowing the 380 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 4: rules and they break them. That's probably my my ethos 381 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 4: of being a creator for sure. 382 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: Now, is there a method to the madness of how 383 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 2: you approach your content? Because you're literally a Wikipedia of knowledge? 384 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: I go, does this guy know all of this information beforehand? 385 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: Or do you go and study up on. 386 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 4: It from the very beginning? Like writers have been a 387 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 4: big part of Donut, So everything's like super written, Like 388 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 4: we have punch up sessions, like not so much anymore, 389 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 4: but like all those early videos. So yeah, it's like 390 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 4: a lot of research, you know, and like making sure 391 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 4: we get it right because we've definitely got it wrong before, 392 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 4: and like that's the worst, Like that's when they come 393 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 4: for your throat, especially when we're doing up to Speed 394 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: the car history show. We'd like, the worst thing we 395 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 4: could possibly do is if I'm like talking about like 396 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 4: a fourth gen something and like an editor shows like 397 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 4: the wrong generation car and just like lit up, just 398 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 4: like I was like, I don't know, I haven't even 399 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 4: seen that edit. But yeah, but like a lot of 400 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 4: research and then a lot of care put into like 401 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 4: crafting jokes and stuff. 402 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: You realize listening to that is that it doesn't just 403 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: come easy, Like there has to be like a method 404 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: and a process, yeah, and work behind it. Nobody ever sees. 405 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that process, like I feel like it's constantly 406 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 4: evolving for us, Like there is a method, but like 407 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 4: that method is constantly changing, and like as soon as 408 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 4: we feel like we know what we're doing, it's old 409 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 4: and so like we have to like start over. And 410 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 4: that is the aspect of the team that I'm most 411 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 4: proud of, is that we're willing to just be like, 412 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: what we're doing isn't working anymore, Guys, Like we're done. 413 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 4: You know, we're starting over, always evolving, always changing it 414 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 4: like never, it's never quite right, We're always tweaking it. 415 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: That says a lot about your team because first being 416 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: able to take criticism and listen to it, and that 417 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: allowing your ego to take over, because I mean in Hollywood, 418 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: you know, man, it's like people surround themselves with yes man, 419 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: and I see you know colleagues that have so much potential, 420 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: but somehow their ego gets in the way and they 421 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: think there's shit, doesn't stinc But you know, art is subjective, 422 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 2: and if you are not constantly evolving and growing, I 423 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: think as a human being, you're not accessible to the 424 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: viewer too. That's why it's every time I watch you, 425 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: it's like you're accessible, you know, like it feels like 426 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: it's a friend in my living room talking about their passion. 427 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 2: And that's something that I search for, you know, as 428 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: I get older, it's like, how do you keep passionate 429 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 2: about something when you've done it for like close to 430 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: a decade already. 431 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 3: I just thinking. 432 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 4: I mean, it's probably not healthy, but it's like just 433 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 4: never thinking it's good. And like as I get older, 434 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 4: I'm like getting better at being like okay, like let's 435 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 4: celebrate our wins. And I think like just as a team, 436 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 4: we are so like heads down all the time. I 437 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 4: think we have kind of missed a lot of like 438 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 4: milestones and not given them like the proper celebration or something. 439 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 4: It's like we're actually like actively trying to be better 440 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 4: at that. I get overwhelmed by my job a lot, 441 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 4: not a lot, but like enough. But at the end 442 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 4: of the day, if I look at it, I really 443 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 4: do feel so fortunate that I'm able to do this, 444 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 4: Like it's literally what I wanted to do, like when 445 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 4: I was nine years old, Like I like this thing, 446 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 4: and I like this thing. How can I make jokes 447 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 4: about cars and the fact that I get to do that, 448 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 4: like if I'm in like contract negotiations or like I 449 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 4: have like a crazy shoe schedule, or frustrated with you know, 450 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 4: somebody I'm like working with or whatever, Like if I 451 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 4: really like look at it, like I'll look at it 452 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 4: like it's like I get to do exactly what I 453 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 4: wanted to do. And if I ever allow myself to 454 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 4: not be stoked about it, I sort of like someone 455 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 4: that either call me out on it or I'll realize 456 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 4: it myself and be like, dude, like come on man, 457 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 4: because it could all go away, you know, Like it's 458 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 4: like we were talking about like people coming up to 459 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 4: us or something. It's like, well, I would really hate 460 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 4: it if nobody did, or like I'd really hate it 461 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 4: if like I didn't have three videos to shoot this week, 462 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 4: Like that would suck. 463 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 3: Like this is the best. 464 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: What a healthy perspective? Yeah, yeah, that's great. Perspective's great 465 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 2: to share with people out there. 466 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: Do you self reflect a lot? Are you an overthinker? 467 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: Uh? I do. 468 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: I'm like very I take care of my mental health 469 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 4: very actively in these days. So yeah, I like meditate, 470 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 4: practice gratitude. 471 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: What made you realize you wanted to put attention on 472 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: your mental health. 473 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 4: I went crazy or I was going crazy in what sense? Uh, 474 00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 4: just a lot of senses. 475 00:22:59,640 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. 476 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 4: I think I've chosen a pretty extreme path, like moving 477 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 4: here when I was so young, and choosing this sort 478 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 4: of like make or break career and then jumping into 479 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,959 Speaker 4: donut and like everything that came with that. 480 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: Like I think I. 481 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 4: Like got to the point where I was like allowed 482 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: to have a normal life and just sort of like 483 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 4: one day just realized I was like exhausted, Like I 484 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 4: was just so beat up. 485 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: Do you take time off? 486 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? I do. 487 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 4: And our work schedule, like we're all very conscious of 488 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 4: it now, because I think we went really hard as 489 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 4: a community. I think like we all were like all right, guys, 490 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 4: we need to like do this better. So like our 491 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 4: schedu we have like people that make our schedules, and 492 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 4: like we're very conscious of burnout now. But there were 493 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 4: days like in the beginning, I'd say like twenty eighteen 494 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 4: was probably like when we first started like hitting there's 495 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 4: like a ninety day stint and like we would just 496 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 4: be in the office till midnight just because we loved 497 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 4: being there. You know, and like we're like, oh, it's 498 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 4: not work because like we love doing it, but it's 499 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 4: like it is and you need to like take time. 500 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 501 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 4: I'm like older now, I'm I like doing other things. 502 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, thinking about starting a family, care 503 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 4: about my health, had some health scares just like really 504 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 4: didn't take care of myself, like from again a mental standpoint, 505 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 4: but also like a physical standpoint. 506 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: Like working out, eating healthy. 507 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and like. 508 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 4: I smoked and like drank a bunch and like did 509 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 4: a bunch of drugs when I was younger, which is 510 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: like fine, just like stop at some point. But yeah, 511 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 4: very recently I realized like this is my life. And 512 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 4: I feel like I've always like not been present, so 513 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 4: like i feel like every accomplishment or everything, I'm like 514 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 4: working towards this other thing. And recently I've tried I've 515 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 4: realized like, oh, this is the life that I live, 516 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 4: Like this is mine now, Like the dream is now, 517 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 4: like the dream is no longer like oh I'm gonna 518 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 4: be will feral. The dream is like I want to 519 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: be like a good partner and I want to be 520 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 4: like a great like person for my friends, like create 521 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 4: with I want to, you know, be a good mentor 522 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 4: to people. I want to you know, do all these 523 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 4: things and like that's my dream now. So like now 524 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 4: my dream is like today, and so everything that I 525 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 4: do isn't like looking towards the future, although like it 526 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 4: is good to plan towards the future. I think like 527 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 4: I'm trying to be more present than I ever was, 528 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: because I think I spent a lot of my adulthood 529 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 4: not being present. 530 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel that. I think that's also YouTube grind. 531 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, like goals are good, but like the tribes are crazy. 532 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: I totally can relate with that. It took me so 533 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: many years and maybe I feel like I kind of 534 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 2: just figured it out like recently, like in the past year, 535 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: like living in the moment, you know, and I was like, 536 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: you know, always in the grind and like you know, 537 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: and thinking about like ten years down the line, and 538 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: also never feeling like, you know, I'm worthy enough or 539 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: I'm good enough. I mean, this one connective tissue that 540 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 2: we all three of us have is that you know, 541 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: like or biological fathers or not here, Like I didn't 542 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 2: grow up with my real father, like he left before 543 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: I was even born. You know what, I mean, and 544 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: you know, the parents I did grow up with, they 545 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: kind of split up and stuff. And for me on 546 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: a personal way, I think that's was like one of 547 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: the primary motivations for me to like go into becoming 548 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 2: an actor, because like I wanted to feel like, you know, 549 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 2: I was validated as a human being, Like I wanted 550 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 2: to turn into something that I was not, like kind 551 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: of change like with the world or even the way 552 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 2: I saw myself. Do you think that kind of background 553 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 2: like led you guys into entertainment at all? 554 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 3: I mean, I definitely think so. 555 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 4: I think, like, yeah, being funny or like being loud 556 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 4: or being just like that dude is like I was 557 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 4: never good at sports or anything. 558 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 3: So like that was the first thing I was ever. 559 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 4: Validated in, and like maybe the only thing I was 560 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 4: ever validated in as like a kid was like I 561 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 4: was even now like I'm less like talented and just 562 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 4: more willing to do so I'm just like not embarrassed 563 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 4: to do stuff in front of people. And so I think, like, yeah, 564 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 4: that was like a skill or a trait that was 565 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 4: you know, immediately rewarded as a child and then like 566 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 4: consistently rewarded into adulthood and so I was like, all right, 567 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 4: I'll just keep doing this, keep doing this, keep doing this. 568 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 4: But yeah, and I always wanted like a million jobs. 569 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 4: So like I remember my dad saying, you don't want 570 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 4: to join the army, you don't want to like be 571 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 4: an architect, just be an actor and you can pretend 572 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 4: to do whatever you want to do. He said that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 573 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 4: you can pretend to have any job you want. 574 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, but yeah, validation for sure. 575 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if it's so much of a 576 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: validation not consciously, and maybe it's so consciously it could be. 577 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: I think obviously losing a parent can change your navigation, 578 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: your direction where you're going. But for me, with acting, 579 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: it's I'm almost say it was the first thing I 580 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: would say I wanted to do before even I think 581 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: I fully knew what it was. I just loved, you know, 582 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: hanging with my friends, playing pretend, and if I could 583 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: do that for a living, it's what I wanted to do. 584 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: But I think they're growing up in a household that 585 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: wasn't the most stable. I think caused me in my 586 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: life to psychoanalyze myself, to never feel complacent, to never 587 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: feel kind of like what you were saying about that 588 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: hunger of constantly wanting more and not celebrating the small wines. 589 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: I find that I'm like that in my life, and 590 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: I can only assume that's because as I didn't have 591 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: that growing up. 592 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: You know, I can't even do birthdays because I never 593 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: had birthday parties growing up. 594 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: They're hard. 595 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 596 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: So like my wife is, she's like the mother and 597 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: the sister and the wife that everyone dreams of having, right, 598 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: And she's always trying to have a birthday party for 599 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: me and I can't do it. Yeah, you know, and 600 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: I didn't grow up with that validation. Hey, this is 601 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: your day you were born. I go, well, who would 602 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: come to this birthday party? 603 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: Right? 604 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: And see, like I think a lot of people will 605 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: come for the free food. Yeah, it's it's it's interesting 606 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: how like our childhood molds like how we see ourselves 607 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 2: in the world. I mean, talking to you, this is 608 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: amazing because you know, I was always so looking forward 609 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: to like sitting down with you in person, because again, 610 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: this light that you radiate through, you know, the content 611 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: that you make. I was like, there has to be 612 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 2: like some recipe for this. There has to be like 613 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: a method to this madness, and you know, going back 614 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 2: to like how you know you practice in meditation and gratitude, Like, well, 615 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: what is your approach to that? 616 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: Where'd you learn that meditate? 617 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 4: I don't do this so much anymore, as much as 618 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 4: I should, but I really like breath work a whole lot. 619 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 3: I pray. 620 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 4: I'm not like religious necessarily, but I do make an 621 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 4: effort to pray. I make lists when I'm at my best. 622 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 4: I do this stuff, but you know, its slips, and 623 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 4: then I try more and more now to be like 624 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 4: physically active. That was never like a thing that like 625 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 4: I made like an effort to do. But I think 626 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: like one day I was like, dude, I'm getting old 627 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 4: and when you're old old you can't put on muscle, 628 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 4: and so like I'm like, all right, I gotta like 629 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 4: beef up where my kids are gonna be able to 630 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 4: beat me up. And so like now I'm like actively 631 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 4: trying to be like more active and stuff. 632 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: What made you realize I mean subjective saying someone's old, 633 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: But what made you feel that way? Uh? 634 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I started getting gray in my beard. 635 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 4: Well, like I said, I moved like I moved here 636 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 4: when I was young, and so like I've always been 637 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 4: the youngest like of all my friends, Like I've always 638 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 4: been like the youngest person. And then one day I 639 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 4: kind of like looked around donut I was like, I'm 640 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 4: older than everybody, and like I went to the streams 641 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 4: recently and I was like, yo, I'm like old for 642 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 4: my job. Like I'm like one of the older people 643 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 4: like in my industry. Like I'm like and I've been 644 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 4: doing this like for almost a decade, like I've been 645 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 4: on YouTube and you too, but like for almost ten years. 646 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,239 Speaker 4: Like that's gnarly, dude, and so like, yeah, I just 647 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 4: I think I've always identified as younger. So I think 648 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 4: maybe I had some sort of Peter Pan complex. And 649 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 4: then so like I skipped that like okay, I'm getting old. 650 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 4: So like now all of a sudden, I'm just like, 651 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 4: oh dude, I'm. 652 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: Here, Like I'm like life happens fast. 653 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, like whether it's like because 654 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 4: I'm like old or whatever, like I really do want 655 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 4: to do things, you know, like I want to have kids. 656 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 3: I'm getting married. I'm very excited. 657 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 4: And so like, you know, I can't ask someone to 658 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 4: marry me without like being like. 659 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 3: Oh, it's going to be for a while. 660 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 4: You know, it's like you want to marry me for 661 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 4: ten years and then I'll die, and it's like I'm 662 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 4: marry me and I'll do it, Like I have to 663 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 4: like promise her that like it's going to be for 664 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 4: as long as I can like possibly make it. I'm 665 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 4: gonna put in all the effort to make this as 666 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 4: long of a promise as it can be. 667 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: As you get older, do you find yourself focusing also 668 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: on what legacy you're leaving behind. 669 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 4: I have like thought about my legacy recently, and so 670 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 4: like I'm definitely like not done evolving. I would like 671 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 4: to include stuff outside of YouTube, which is why I'm 672 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 4: so excited about like the other stuff. Like I think 673 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 4: I enjoy like our podcast the most past gast podcast 674 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 4: wherever you get your podcasts, and then recently are like 675 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 4: apparel Line has been like a real a real joy 676 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 4: for me to like do and like work with our 677 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 4: lead designer student and Depaz and then Tim Moore are 678 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 4: like head of product is like that's that's been like 679 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 4: really fun. 680 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: We're in zoomies now, which is cool. 681 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, congratulations on that. 682 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: What's your legacy that you want to leave behind? 683 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: Really, I'm still trying to figure that out. It has 684 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: been a thought of mine more so lately about what 685 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm leaving behind, which I think is natural, you know, 686 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: as you get older. I like to believe I've helped 687 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: maybe open up people's eyes to women representation in the space, 688 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: But I don't want to take sole credit for that, 689 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: because there's so many incredible women in this industry who 690 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: helped to make it what it is today. So I 691 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: don't know. I think as I lean more into the 692 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: mental health space, having just signed on the board of 693 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: a nonprofit called Alive and well, I think just trying 694 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: to give back and help as many people on this 695 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: earth while I'm here. I mean, I can't really think 696 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: of much else that I really want to leave behind 697 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: aside helping other people. 698 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you've definitely, you know, as a woman 699 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 4: in our industry, like some thing that we can do, 700 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 4: almost like accidentally, is give someone something that they want 701 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 4: to emulate, you know, so like it's so much easier 702 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 4: for someone to do it if it's already been done, 703 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 4: because like like you can be like, oh, like I 704 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 4: really like Amelia Hartford. I'm going to make a channel 705 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 4: like hers, and when it's like still on that person's 706 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 4: like style and like their whole like vibe and like 707 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 4: not ripping you off at all, but just like seeing 708 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 4: that it worked and like being a fan of something. Yeah, 709 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 4: Like when someone new starts at donut, like I'm like, well, 710 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 4: who do you like? Like what do you like to watch? 711 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 4: That's like the jumping off point from like what they're 712 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 4: going to make. But by just existing and like putting 713 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 4: stuff out, I think, yeah, you are one hundred percent 714 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 4: influencing what is to come. 715 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: You know, thank you. I don't like taking that much credit, 716 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: but influencing. 717 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also beautiful what Amelia represents, you know, even 718 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 2: self reflection. To be able to have someone to understand 719 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: what that's about and like constantly like yourself to echo 720 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 2: what you said earlier. Is to never be complacent to 721 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: who you are and to evolve into something better. 722 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 3: Right. 723 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: That's something that I noticed about her, and that is 724 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 2: a trait that separates her from other people that are 725 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 2: making content. And because the camera doesn't lie, you know, 726 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: it's like you know, I mean you've done enough like 727 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 2: you know, film projects where you see someone and you go, wow, 728 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 2: there's something radiating from them, and then you meet them 729 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 2: and you go, yeah, they're kind of playing a version 730 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: of themselves too, you know, like it's acting, but without that, 731 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 2: the camera will see the truth. 732 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 4: You can tell if there's joy behind a performance, and 733 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 4: you can tell if there's not a note. I'm given 734 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 4: a number of times to like a lot of our 735 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 4: guys is like, yo, dude, I could tell you were 736 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 4: not having any fun while you're making that video, and 737 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 4: you know, usually it's like what can we do to 738 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 4: make you have more fun? Like why aren't you having 739 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 4: fun doing this? Because at the end of the day, 740 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 4: we're goofing around and like driving cool cars, and it's 741 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 4: awesome that we get to do this. 742 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: And you know, because you started, you know, as an actor. 743 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 2: You know, I think prior to social media and YouTube, 744 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 2: you know, there was a legitimate excuse that these gates 745 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: to the studios were closed. 746 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 747 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys are a testament to like, you know, 748 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 2: there is another road that you can you know, and 749 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: the cadence even with like Asian American kids today that 750 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: are you know, content makers, is way different from my 751 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 2: generation because we were beholden by the caykeepers. First, you 752 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 2: had to get an agent, right, and if an agent 753 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 2: didn't like sign you, you had no way of getting, 754 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: you know, an audition, and if you don't get an audition, 755 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 2: you're never going to get a job. You can't get 756 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 2: in the Union. It's just the whole domino effect of 757 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 2: these barriers, right. And when I see you know, Asian 758 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 2: American kids today that have like massive viewership on YouTube 759 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: or social media, their walk is different, you know, because 760 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 2: they're I don't need shit that don't fucking studio to 761 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 2: tell me, like I'm good enough, Like I'll just make 762 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: my own videos, right, and and the self expression right. 763 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 2: And with technology today, it's like there really is no 764 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 2: excuse today. 765 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 766 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 4: I mean I saw a showed a Comedy Central like 767 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 4: ten years ago and like worked on it for like 768 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 4: two and a half years, and like it we never 769 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 4: shot anything, just like notes and like rewrites and like 770 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 4: all this stuff. It's like two and a half years, 771 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 4: you know. I think having had experience with traditional media 772 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 4: and then coming into YouTube with like the support that 773 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 4: I had, Like I was just blown away by like 774 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 4: what I was allowed to do and like how quickly 775 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 4: I could turn stuff. 776 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 2: Over no excuses. 777 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have distribution at your fingertips. 778 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 3: Sure. 779 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: Do you see yourself still on YouTube in five to 780 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: ten years? Where do you see your career going or 781 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: where would you like it to be. 782 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 4: I have no idea what I'm going to do in 783 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 4: five to ten years. I mean, I'm always going to 784 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 4: do something like what I'm doing now more and more. 785 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 4: I like sort of fostering creativity and other people. I 786 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 4: think that's like something that I've always like had, but 787 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 4: like I've never known how to do anything before. But 788 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 4: so now that I kind of know what I'm doing, 789 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 4: I really do enjoy sharing that with other people. So 790 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 4: I think that's going to be a thing that grows more. 791 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 4: I'm more interested in business than I ever have been. Yeah, 792 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 4: hopefully I'll be involved in Donut. In five years. I 793 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 4: think I'll be involved with Donut in some capacity. Just 794 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 4: like more and more stuff, I think. 795 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 2: But I love what that's rooted in your answers, that 796 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 2: you want to be able to share and give back 797 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 2: and foster creativity to like other folks. 798 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that comes from being like a fan, like 799 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 4: I like stuff, and you know, like I like being 800 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 4: a part of it, and I like the process a 801 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 4: whole lot, and you know, I make a certain type 802 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 4: of thing, but other people make stuff that like I 803 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 4: would never think of making, you know, so like if 804 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 4: I can do anything to like help that, then it's 805 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 4: really like enjoyable to be allowed to be a part 806 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 4: of that, you know, Like if I'm able to like 807 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 4: give someone some shortcut or like let them save some 808 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 4: time because they don't have to figure it out in 809 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 4: the way that I did, Like the trade off is like, oh, 810 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 4: you're really good, and I get to be like kind 811 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 4: of involved in your thing too, So it's like really enjoyable. 812 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. 813 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: Well, I would love to ask if you were to 814 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: talk to a nineteen year old you today, what advice 815 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 1: would you give yourself. 816 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 4: It's okay to get a regular job, go bus tables 817 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 4: or something. Being broke doesn't legitimize you, just kind of 818 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 4: like also start a YouTube channel and keep that going. 819 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 3: That's what I would do for sure. 820 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: What about people who want to get into what you're 821 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: doing today? Do you think it's too late to start 822 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: a YouTube? 823 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 3: No? No, YouTube's not going anywhere. I think YouTube is 824 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 3: going to continue to evolve. 825 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 4: I guess, Like, so if someone wants to do what 826 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 4: I want to do, surround yourself with people who can 827 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 4: do things that you can't. I'm good at some stuff, 828 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 4: but like when you combine me with like three or 829 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 4: four other dudes, like we're fucking nuts. Like we're like 830 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 4: really good, So you can do it alone. But like personally, 831 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,479 Speaker 4: I'm always been like a collaborative creator. And whether that's 832 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 4: like you gotta share a channel or just like being 833 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 4: around people that like have are doing like kind of 834 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 4: the same thing. Like I think, like try and find community, 835 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 4: but also find people that like are better than you 836 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 4: that you can look up to. And if you like 837 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 4: rip three people off and like make your own thing, 838 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 4: then that's not ripping them off. That's having tastes. So 839 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 4: don't be afraid to like emulate your heroes. Have heroes. 840 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 4: That's my advice. Have heroes and emulate them. 841 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 2: That's great advice. 842 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 843 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, got to have people around you that are smarter 844 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 2: than you. You're the smartest person in the room. There's 845 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 2: a problem. 846 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, I would agree with that. 847 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: Thank you for being so open and candid. I feel 848 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: like sure, you know, like I got to know the 849 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 2: man behind the myths, and you know. 850 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you. Guys really got it out of me. 851 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: Now this is great. I appreciate you opening up. 852 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 2: I mean I have, I have, like so much more 853 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 2: respect for you after this conversation. 854 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 3: You know, thank you. Yeah, respect for you too, man. 855 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 2: Thanks brother, thank you,