Speaker 1: We are still here in the Boy Meets World house.
Speaker 2: We have now.
Speaker 1: Entered into the evening territory. We've had our dinner, We've
Speaker 1: gotten comfortable in the Matthews Palace, and in perfect Pod
Speaker 1: Meets World fashion, we are taking a small detour for
Speaker 1: our sleepover. How have you guys been feeling about our
Speaker 1: experience tonight so far?
Speaker 3: I'm so full of habachi.
Speaker 2: I know we had the hibachi queens.
Speaker 3: I couldn't stop eating it, even when I was full
Speaker 3: to the brim.
Speaker 2: I know you were, you were completely maxed out.
Speaker 1: Did you did you enjoy this?
Speaker 4: I did?
Speaker 5: It was it was. It was very much a show.
Speaker 6: I'm a big hubachi Fanah. Yeah, it's like a good
Speaker 6: family yeah thing. So Indy loves it.
Speaker 5: And yeah, this was quite a show. This was some
Speaker 5: impressive firework.
Speaker 1: It was firework. The reason I was picturing you shortened.
Speaker 3: Fire firework work.
Speaker 2: It was all right.
Speaker 1: So when we recently had on Andrew Andy Keegan on
Speaker 1: Podmeats World, we found ourselves in a topic we revisit
Speaker 1: many times.
Speaker 2: Angel and Vicki.
Speaker 1: They were our studio appointed pe teachers, but also they
Speaker 1: became business partners with us in some sense, producing the
Speaker 1: roller bleading video Grinders Inline, starring Rider and Myself true masterpiece.
Speaker 1: And we always knew we shared Angel and Vicki with
Speaker 1: the show next Door, thunder Rally and It's child stars.
Speaker 1: But what we didn't know is that they also made
Speaker 1: a video with and you not know you were you.
Speaker 3: Were in the video on this page. I didn't know, whatever, Daniel.
Speaker 5: She sounds so believable that the thing she can read
Speaker 5: the Yellow Pages.
Speaker 3: The part is she literally doesn't know days the actual part.
Speaker 1: That I was in it. I did not remember that.
Speaker 1: So Andrew casually dropped this during his interview, and so
Speaker 1: producer slash husband of this podcast, Jensen, jumped on eBay
Speaker 1: and found one VHS copy available and we quickly snatched
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 5: That's because I bought all the other ones. I don't
Speaker 5: happened I left one out there.
Speaker 1: Well, we have story now, we have digitized, and we
Speaker 1: have put it up on YouTube to be viewed by everyone,
Speaker 1: because these things deserve to be ronicled.
Speaker 3: We're responsible for. You can go watch it now.
Speaker 5: That's all.
Speaker 1: We will be doing the same with Grinders Inline soon.
Speaker 1: But we wanted to sit down with Andrew now and
Speaker 1: talk not only about Boxerati, something he so graciously agreed
Speaker 1: to dissect with us, but also get more into possibly
Speaker 1: the most mysterious subjects on our podcast, Angel and VICKI
Speaker 1: welcome Andrew Keagan, the star of Boxeratim.
Speaker 5: I'm in my mind. All I can think about is
Speaker 5: there was literally one and it didn't exist, and now
Speaker 5: it exists. My worst nightmareage.
Speaker 7: You.
Speaker 2: But you know, Andrew, what did you think really when
Speaker 2: you watched it?
Speaker 1: We digitized it, we sent it to you, and you
Speaker 1: you nervously watched it.
Speaker 3: What did you think?
Speaker 5: I couldn't stop watching it right right? I was like this,
Speaker 5: this was actually, you know, put together considering the time.
Speaker 5: It was thirty almost thirty years ago, it was actually
Speaker 5: pretty alright, It's not that at all. Great, Yeah, weird,
Speaker 5: It's not what I remember, though, What do you remember?
Speaker 5: I have not the best rhythm or the coordination in
Speaker 5: other words, like you know, dancing wasn't my skill set.
Speaker 5: So I just remember how difficult it was. And it
Speaker 5: doesn't look difficult, you know.
Speaker 3: You just transitioning.
Speaker 5: It was like the aid to the sixteen, and so
Speaker 5: that was so seared in my head, how difficult and
Speaker 5: how frust they were frustrated with me though, really a
Speaker 5: little bit, because I think they had the expectator, you know,
Speaker 5: if you do this and if you're a trained dancer
Speaker 5: or physical whatever exercise person. So for me, it was
Speaker 5: just like I just kind of like had two left
Speaker 5: feet with it. So that was what I remember. But
Speaker 5: I looked at him. I was going to say, they
Speaker 5: edited really well. I want to thank them for getting
Speaker 5: together a really good video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you really looked great. I said to you today
Speaker 1: via text. You could have been a fitness trainer.
Speaker 6: That's my biggest takeaway. Yes, why was this not the
Speaker 6: biggest thing effort I was? Andrew actually looks totally comfortable.
Speaker 6: This fits him perfectly.
Speaker 5: You could have you could have started an empire.
Speaker 6: But tank Top, it was just you know, it's just
Speaker 6: I'm just surprised, like you know that it was this
Speaker 6: one off video, but it was.
Speaker 5: It was the time because remember how that's become so important.
Speaker 6: It was the people who made P ninety ninety or
Speaker 6: insanity like those, why not target younger people.
Speaker 3: That's what I thought the whole time I was watching
Speaker 3: this is this is perfect to do a fitness video
Speaker 3: with somebody that they recognize and will know targeted at
Speaker 3: like tweens and teens. It's just a great ideas to
Speaker 3: still be done.
Speaker 5: What Yeah, well, I'm not sure why it didn't really work.
Speaker 5: Maybe the distribute, you know, there's a different things. I
Speaker 5: think at the time what.
Speaker 6: It came down to, yeah, because I mean it actually
Speaker 6: is legit and it was like, oh, this totally could
Speaker 6: have been a whole series and a whole thing.
Speaker 5: And but just a quick question when you bought it?
Speaker 5: What what? What was it on a VHS?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 5: Well that might have been the issue right there, right.
Speaker 6: In the days were still a thing, and the idea
Speaker 6: exactly like we'll say in a targeting teenagers, MA idea
Speaker 6: makes sense and it was good.
Speaker 3: It was a Billy Blanks.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I really love those classes.
Speaker 5: Here's what's scary is now that it's out there, who knows, maybe.
Speaker 3: Take over you can start an entire Ardi empire.
Speaker 6: Not because it's just.
Speaker 3: Keegan ERTI.
Speaker 5: Idea.
Speaker 3: I love it, Andy Roddy, I love that. Oh god, Okay,
Speaker 3: where are we going with this?
Speaker 2: Okay, So you don't know if you ever even saw
Speaker 2: the finished.
Speaker 5: Product until I think that I did.
Speaker 1: Wow, you just remembered the filming of it. It was
Speaker 1: probably a little traumatizing since they were frustrated when.
Speaker 3: You were in shape and you didn't need it.
Speaker 5: It just was like, I'm good with this. It was
Speaker 5: it was. It was just one of those tough shoots,
Speaker 5: whereas like I just felt like I could have done
Speaker 5: should have done better. But it turned out well. But yes,
Speaker 5: I if I did see it, I definitely don't remember.
Speaker 3: It was this all done in the day, probably, Yeah,
Speaker 3: one day that snout right.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So let's maybe do a little background explanation for our
Speaker 1: dear listeners who may have not heard the episodes where
Speaker 1: we've mentioned Angel and VICKI, let's talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about how they were brought into our lives. Does anyone
Speaker 1: here actually remember how we first met them.
Speaker 6: Uh, they were hired by Disney as far as I know,
Speaker 6: or at least our individual productions keep backed on. They
Speaker 6: were already the physical instructors because we had to do
Speaker 6: thirty minutes of physical activity every day, and so I
Speaker 6: don't think it's like a require. It's a requirement that
Speaker 6: we get that, but there was no requirement that we
Speaker 6: have actual like coaches or teachers.
Speaker 3: That go outside and play for half.
Speaker 6: We were lucky enough that they sort of provided the
Speaker 6: service for studio kids, and they were already doing it
Speaker 6: for the home improvement kids, right, and then they were
Speaker 6: all to Disney. They just they were like, oh, all
Speaker 6: the shows I think hired them equally. And we took
Speaker 6: our lunch break and we would work out football. I
Speaker 6: remember like actually doing push ups and price of dips
Speaker 6: and like actually working out with them too. And then
Speaker 6: they became friends and yeah, like you said, business partners,
Speaker 6: which is super interesting, Like yeah, there was a lot
Speaker 6: of like lives getting intertwined. And then they would you know,
Speaker 6: they would always be there and they were so fun
Speaker 6: to hang out with. And then they would get us
Speaker 6: stuff because they would go like sponsorships because they were
Speaker 6: they were like grown ups who would work for us
Speaker 6: like they you know, I was into snowboard and so
Speaker 6: they got me a snowboard.
Speaker 1: Snowboard too. I went and picked out my own snowboard,
Speaker 1: and I remember I had like a rebox sponsorship.
Speaker 4: And stuff like that.
Speaker 5: So they were working it because they were like them,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, that's smart of them. That
Speaker 5: was totally. That product placement was such a thing.
Speaker 3: Too, Oxygen oxygen roller blades. I remember them bringing those
Speaker 3: sick roller blades.
Speaker 1: How did they go from then, like introducing us to brands,
Speaker 1: How did they go from pe teachers to like, hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to come get free shoes?
Speaker 8: Was that?
Speaker 1: Do you think it was? It pitched to us like
Speaker 1: what was the benefit for the people giving us the
Speaker 1: free stuff that maybe we'd be seen.
Speaker 6: They would like they would actually arrange. So I remember
Speaker 6: when they gave me the snowboard. I actually took a
Speaker 6: photo for some team magazines. So it was like the
Speaker 6: team magazines, they wanted photos of us, the products wanted
Speaker 6: a picture them. And then but I don't what Angel
Speaker 6: Vicky get out of it all. I don't accept maybe
Speaker 6: business relationships. And then yeah, I mean they were interested
Speaker 6: in building, you know, a business out of either personal edge.
Speaker 6: Personal edge was their their their business. And then also
Speaker 6: you know, like these videos because they ended up producing
Speaker 6: grinders with with my family and you and me starring
Speaker 6: in it, and then Boxeraate and then Funkaraate never happened.
Speaker 3: They didn't have me at all. SMOKARAATEI was not going
Speaker 3: to work, so they did not have me. It was
Speaker 3: not working, so they did not want me in the
Speaker 3: Errati family.
Speaker 1: So Andrew, do you remember how boxerati came around, like
Speaker 1: how they brought it.
Speaker 8: Up to you.
Speaker 5: I mean, again, that was so long ago.
Speaker 3: But were you.
Speaker 2: Super into fitness?
Speaker 5: I know, I think I was just, you know, kind
Speaker 5: of like coerced into it, like hey, we're doing this,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: Let's make and I'm sure athletic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, yeah. I mean we were, you know,
Speaker 5: all working together, you know, at the lot as we're
Speaker 5: talking about. But yeah, I don't I literally don't remember.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I was like, oh, yeah, sure, I'll do anything.
Speaker 5: I mean between the teen magazines, like, oh you want
Speaker 5: to take my shirt off, no problem, I would do
Speaker 5: any magazine. I'd wear anything. That's where I was at
Speaker 5: at that point. So Boxarati sounded great.
Speaker 1: It is funny, like it is weird when you think
Speaker 1: about it, because I was very much the same way.
Speaker 1: Sure let's go to rebop.
Speaker 2: You want me an interview this person, Sure, let's do it.
Speaker 2: And it's like that's the worst kind of teenager.
Speaker 9: To be, but that's what we all did.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 9: It was willing to listen to.
Speaker 5: Do this thing.
Speaker 1: Good for sure, let's do it.
Speaker 4: That was our life.
Speaker 1: So funny. Okay, so this was an instructional video. You
Speaker 1: walked everyone through. Let me tell you what I say.
Speaker 1: It's an instructional video.
Speaker 3: Here's how you pray.
Speaker 9: You actually show us how to bunch, which knuckles to
Speaker 9: follow through with, and then you show us how to kick,
Speaker 9: and then you go quick, let's jump into it.
Speaker 5: Let's go. Yeah, the transition there wasn't much. It was
Speaker 5: one minute stretching that whole also love.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things about the video is how
Speaker 1: much you remind us that you also couldn't do it first.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that came. That came naturally. That was They
Speaker 5: only left I think two in there, but I probably
Speaker 5: said it fifty times, like don't worrying. I think I said, literally,
Speaker 5: you're fine, because they wanted me to rehearse and I didn't.
Speaker 3: It was no matter where you were, it was always
Speaker 3: a eight more. It one punch, two punch, four punches,
Speaker 3: and eight more. And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: these four kids, you've identified the issue.
Speaker 5: Ye I didn't.
Speaker 3: I still don't have it.
Speaker 5: I still didn't realize what was going on, and now
Speaker 5: I get yeah, they just edited, Like now that I
Speaker 5: think about it, Yeah, I wasn't really care that it
Speaker 5: didn't it didn't make sense on the numbers.
Speaker 3: You know, because there's some kid out there who did
Speaker 3: forty five minutes of solid cardio and just dropped afterwards,
Speaker 3: like no one stopped and rested. It was just like
Speaker 3: forty five minutes a movie, and that's.
Speaker 5: All the rage. Now, I literally do a forty five
Speaker 5: minute class. Now that's not just still don't Yeah, that's
Speaker 5: in the head of the car telling you I'm gonna
Speaker 5: call that forty five plays and yeah, forty five whatever.
Speaker 2: We have one ars too.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay. So at the very beginning of the video.
Speaker 3: Andrew Black.
Speaker 2: H over Andrew warns everyone of this.
Speaker 5: Here's the warning on the screen before the workout. It's
Speaker 5: narrated by Andrew Keagan on the tape.
Speaker 6: That part's still just where are we doing?
Speaker 5: I didn't remember that part. Okay, here we go, let's
Speaker 5: do it. Take two. See, I knew this is going
Speaker 5: to be all about laughing at me, but I'm still there.
Speaker 5: I'm a chance with you, I know, I know. We
Speaker 5: don't want you to hurt yourself, even though boxerati is
Speaker 5: easy and fun, So make sure you check with your
Speaker 5: mom and dad or see a doctor if you have
Speaker 5: to before trying this out. Take your time watching the
Speaker 5: video once through. If you can't do it the first time,
Speaker 5: I don't know why it sounds. I think I'm doing
Speaker 5: like what I remember.
Speaker 9: Said.
Speaker 5: Okay, al finish. If you can't do it the first time,
Speaker 5: don't worry. I couldn't do it either.
Speaker 3: There it is.
Speaker 5: Take it slow and have fun with it. Discontinue any
Speaker 5: part of this program that may cause you discomfort of pain.
Speaker 5: I sound like Keanu Reeves. Always remember while you're doing this.
Speaker 5: If it hurts, stop the producers distribute them any liability
Speaker 5: or loss a connection with the exercise and advice containing
Speaker 5: this program.
Speaker 3: Yes, discurb awesome. You sound the same. Well. I just
Speaker 3: want to hear a kid going like, mom, I have
Speaker 3: to go talk to the doctor before I can go
Speaker 3: to boxer.
Speaker 6: I can't do bo.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Okay. And then there is a small
Speaker 1: coming attractions which is fun karate and yours truly arise.
Speaker 1: Wait it says it's coming in the summer of ninety six.
Speaker 5: Still waiting, still waiting.
Speaker 2: St waiting on the one.
Speaker 1: I had no memory of doing that with you at all.
Speaker 1: I had none.
Speaker 2: I saw I appeared on screen.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh there, I am.
Speaker 3: There's men exactly.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I guess I'm in that.
Speaker 3: Do you remember what funkarate was?
Speaker 2: Well, I say it in the video.
Speaker 1: It's a combination of dancing, hip hop and karate, which
Speaker 1: I really want to know. Oh god, that is I
Speaker 1: want to You know what, let's next time we go
Speaker 1: to karate.
Speaker 9: Let's ask mister s he knows about any funk arate.
Speaker 3: I'd also like to put out a disclaimer for pod
Speaker 3: Meats World. Neither boxarate nor funkarate should be used for
Speaker 3: self defense.
Speaker 4: I will sorry, Hi guys, it's Jensen, producer her husband podcast.
Speaker 4: I will say that I did find an interview with
Speaker 4: you that talks about funk karate, and you do say
Speaker 4: that it's you and JENAVANOI oh wow, so.
Speaker 3: Are you fighting each other each other?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So anyway, it would have been you and Jenna.
Speaker 2: Okay, we never did it.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I still can do it, by the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't stop that now, but we may.
Speaker 5: Next year.
Speaker 6: I think we made it in ninety six. Why wasn't
Speaker 6: it Grinderatis just so awful?
Speaker 1: Well, that is one of the things I thought today
Speaker 1: when we were watching Boxerati, is that we really lucked
Speaker 1: out with Grinders in Line that we were not the
Speaker 1: stars of Grinders in Line, like.
Speaker 6: We were the instructional part of the same way a
Speaker 6: little bit, but we're only in like.
Speaker 1: He's in the whole darn thing, and people through.
Speaker 3: The exercises while you're there by the way instructor. It
Speaker 3: could have been, could have been can be walk too.
Speaker 1: So you were wearing a killer Boxerati tank top that
Speaker 1: I hope we can.
Speaker 2: Make merch.
Speaker 5: One of those.
Speaker 1: You're lifting a weight and then I show up next
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 3: That is you're just lifting one weight. It's like official, and.
Speaker 1: We have this very natural dialogue where we are definitely
Speaker 1: listening to each other and.
Speaker 2: Are line. Let's uh, let's play a clip.
Speaker 10: Hey, how's it going. This is Danielle Fisher from Boy
Speaker 10: Means World.
Speaker 11: What are you up to?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 10: Have you been pretty good? We're just here talking about
Speaker 10: how important it is to exercise.
Speaker 1: You go reany good?
Speaker 3: I go good.
Speaker 4: Just look away.
Speaker 3: You're not listening to each other.
Speaker 6: It's so funny because yeah, knowing that you guys were
Speaker 6: actually like good friends, tell you're just totally taking that
Speaker 6: for granted.
Speaker 3: You're like, what are we here today? We're good. How
Speaker 3: you doing.
Speaker 5: We're good.
Speaker 1: Well, here's a little more from the best Friends in
Speaker 1: Exercise clip number two.
Speaker 10: And you're looking pretty good. Are you like some kind
Speaker 10: of exercise freak or something, of.
Speaker 12: Course not, but I do like to keep in shape
Speaker 12: and working out as a part of that, you know.
Speaker 12: But I like to do a bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 12: I like to dance and I like to ski. But
Speaker 12: you know, this box writty thing is something I could
Speaker 12: get into, being that I've been doing some boxing myself.
Speaker 4: Exercise, fast talking. I can't believe they stopped you before.
Speaker 4: You were like, you know what, I don't like when
Speaker 4: guys call the house and they're just like that and
Speaker 4: they just like don't want to pick up the phone.
Speaker 4: And then it was like, it's the same girl exactly.
Speaker 3: I'm Daniel official for Takarate.
Speaker 5: Karate perfect.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, So you're so fast, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: Did you drink coffee back then?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. It's like you were always on one point
Speaker 3: five when you're re listening to a podcast too fast
Speaker 3: or two point zero.
Speaker 1: You were always there, was always there.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 1: Well, you might be wondering what the philosophy is behind
Speaker 1: what you're about to get into and Andrew fills you
Speaker 1: in clip number three.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know what I think the point is we
Speaker 10: should be making here is it's staying in shape. Isn't
Speaker 10: about having some elaborate program. You know, you don't need gears,
Speaker 10: weights or a lot of expensive stuff. All you need
Speaker 10: is some discipline, some new attitude and the right attitude.
Speaker 10: Excuse me, And you know I think that's about it.
Speaker 1: So I mean, great, no need for a second take,
Speaker 1: just in your moment, the moment very natural.
Speaker 5: I can't get over what I sound like. It was
Speaker 5: the most valley guy server.
Speaker 12: Why.
Speaker 5: I was like, I remember watching, Oh my gosh, what
Speaker 5: did you sound?
Speaker 4: I will say too, like people who don't go to YouTube,
Speaker 4: which they should, they should watch this on YouTube.
Speaker 5: We put it up.
Speaker 4: But like, if you don't watch on YouTube, you're gonna
Speaker 4: think it sounds cheap because he flubbed. But the funniest
Speaker 4: part is they easily could have done a second take.
Speaker 4: It's a kind of expensive looking video. It is so
Speaker 4: like they made a decision to keep him in as
Speaker 4: like a teen heartthrob who made a small mistaken boy.
Speaker 4: He's so relatable. Yeah, that's that's why they kept that
Speaker 4: because they really easily could have done another take, but
Speaker 4: it's on purpose that they kept that. Yeah, it's kind cool,
Speaker 4: a little more fun.
Speaker 3: I think also think it's a good message exactly what's
Speaker 3: on message nowadays. If you don't need tons of waste,
Speaker 3: you don't need all this stuff. I mean again, this
Speaker 3: thing was seriously ahead of its time.
Speaker 5: It's like I said, it's so interesting. I just started
Speaker 5: doing this workout, which is a forty five minute routine,
Speaker 5: and it's so you go six cycles, right cycles. But
Speaker 5: it's that's what I'm saying. It's like you don't need
Speaker 5: a march to just go in and it's all.
Speaker 3: The big thing right now is calisthenics, the old school calisthenics,
Speaker 3: and that's.
Speaker 5: What this was.
Speaker 3: This was thirty years ago exactly on teens or teams.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna I think we're gonna blow it up.
Speaker 3: Can't do it right now?
Speaker 10: Do it?
Speaker 1: You want to start working out? You full of habachi?
Speaker 3: Well this second, I'm hot, full of hibachi.
Speaker 5: But no later conajamas for Chris.
Speaker 3: This is a we're gonna work out sway in pajamas.
Speaker 3: Has anyone said yet, yes that I'd be good at Hey,
Speaker 3: do you want a more steak? Yes, give me eight more,
Speaker 3: just eight more more, and.
Speaker 1: Well then we get another tease for my funkarate video
Speaker 1: and a little friendly competition. Let's play clip number four.
Speaker 10: I think you're doing a video too.
Speaker 1: That's right, it's called fun Karate.
Speaker 12: It's gonna be some funk and hip hop moves mixed
Speaker 12: in with some karate.
Speaker 1: It'll be really fun.
Speaker 5: Excellent, excellent.
Speaker 6: Well you want to love about this whole interaction between
Speaker 6: you guys? You sound like sixteen year olds who are
Speaker 6: trying to sound like thirty year old?
Speaker 3: Is this like cool?
Speaker 5: Cool? Cool?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Because at dancing in some boxing I can also yeah,
Speaker 3: it's really I'm really going to age myself. But there
Speaker 3: used to be commercials where it was a guy and
Speaker 3: girl like sitting in front of a fireplace talking about
Speaker 3: all the greatest songs from the seventies, and it was
Speaker 3: like that's like yeah, but Foreigner came out. Oh, don't
Speaker 3: get me started on Foreigner. That's what you got to
Speaker 3: sound like.
Speaker 4: You sound like that couple.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is exactly what we sound like. Well, then
Speaker 1: we are in the video, and Andrew, you're in a
Speaker 1: very nice boxing gym with a disco ball.
Speaker 2: Do you remember at all where this.
Speaker 5: Was no no idea?
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean in the valley. It was in the
Speaker 3: valley valley.
Speaker 5: Okay. Actually, I feel it might have even been they.
Speaker 5: I think it was that. I feel like there was
Speaker 5: a real gym, like what's it called ring? Yeah, so
Speaker 5: I think they took part of a the.
Speaker 4: Answer by the end of the podcast, but it does
Speaker 4: say where it is, and I want to say it's somewhere,
Speaker 4: but I think that might be wrong. Somewhere about let
Speaker 4: me let me look it up and I'll get you
Speaker 4: the answer.
Speaker 3: Wow, because it looks great. I mean, there's like legit
Speaker 3: production value. It looks good. You're leading the whole thing.
Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's good. It's it's it's good. It
Speaker 3: really is.
Speaker 2: And it's not an easy super easy.
Speaker 1: It's a great video.
Speaker 3: It's really difficult and you can do it at home.
Speaker 3: And I was dead by the second commercial?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else? Young Andrew wants to say? Here,
Speaker 1: let's see clip number five.
Speaker 13: Well, keep your eyes over for a fun karate video.
Speaker 13: Let's wait again, please, well keep your eyes over for
Speaker 13: a fun karate video.
Speaker 3: Fun karate video.
Speaker 5: I think I swallowed the unk.
Speaker 1: Do you remember who picked out the clothes? Did Angel
Speaker 1: picked us out for you?
Speaker 5: Absolutely? For sure they picked those clothes out. Must That's
Speaker 5: not what I was wearing at that time. Okay, or
Speaker 5: ever do it again?
Speaker 2: No, I don't remember you ever really wearing tank tops?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: No, not really really it's not a bad word.
Speaker 6: I know, shut us nothing underneath.
Speaker 4: Remember.
Speaker 6: So the director was somebody named Heather Oh, I don't know,
Speaker 6: I don't remember.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was Heather Mills. Is that right? Something hither
Speaker 3: Hills or Mills. And I was like, wow, this is
Speaker 3: I was like, who is this?
Speaker 6: Because Grinders, Angel and Shiloh co directed. It was the
Speaker 6: first thing Shiloh ever directed, and he learned a lot
Speaker 6: and like you know, an Angel was co directing with him,
Speaker 6: and they were like really into the editing and all
Speaker 6: this stuff.
Speaker 3: But I didn't know who this person was.
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, probably brought her in yea. You
Speaker 5: know they wanted to. They were trying to up it
Speaker 5: with the director.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it was a box. He was filmed on
Speaker 4: location at Polina Boxing Club in Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, he knows my boxing instruct He's in
Speaker 7: Woodland Hills. Did you ever drive up the street and
Speaker 7: you see the big statue of Oh, yeah, that's that's Phil.
Speaker 4: That looked good. Then even.
Speaker 3: Hills I trained at that gym.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that's so funny. Boxeraate was mad.
Speaker 3: I did. There was a He told me at one
Speaker 3: point that he was going to rent the place out
Speaker 3: to shoot porn.
Speaker 5: Oh okays, ready shut it down. Oh that's so funny.
Speaker 1: Well, you guys might be wondering why it is that
Speaker 1: Andrew made this video, so here he is to explain.
Speaker 10: Hi.
Speaker 1: I'm Andrew Kavian.
Speaker 10: I'm here today to show you why it's so important
Speaker 10: for us to work out. I'm trying a new concept.
Speaker 10: I found a great way to burn off some stew
Speaker 10: let go my frustrations and feel better. It's a new
Speaker 10: workout that combines boxing and karate. It's fun and it's easy.
Speaker 10: The best of all, you're getting a workout. You don't
Speaker 10: have to be good or anything. It's not a competition.
Speaker 10: All you're gonna do is give it a try. It's
Speaker 10: called box Sarati. See it looks like we're all just
Speaker 10: hanging out here, then really we're working out so fun.
Speaker 3: It's great, perfect, super simple, straightforward.
Speaker 2: You had that memorized, but it sounds really natural.
Speaker 3: And you're also telling kids like it's cool if you're
Speaker 3: not good at it.
Speaker 1: It's like we're hanging out, but we're actually working out.
Speaker 2: I like that part.
Speaker 3: I want to reverse it looks like we're working up.
Speaker 5: We can do it tonight in a sleep.
Speaker 3: You're I mean, I'm sorry, you're you're very good at this,
Speaker 3: And you're like, you're very good at this.
Speaker 5: I think the Yeah, I mean it's gonna be. It's
Speaker 5: out there now, so who knows. Get your kids off
Speaker 5: the couch, I'm telling you.
Speaker 10: Well.
Speaker 1: Then we get into the exercise, which is punch and
Speaker 1: kick combos focused on cardio, with Andrew teaching a group
Speaker 1: of very fit sports enthusiasts both in and outside the
Speaker 1: boxing ring.
Speaker 2: So did we recognize any of these people?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yes we did did. Yes, there is a very
Speaker 1: cool moment where you join in with someone jump roping
Speaker 1: that I could never do. And then Andrew tells us
Speaker 1: exactly what Boxarati is Clip number seven.
Speaker 10: Box Sarati is a fitness program created by Vicky Van
Speaker 10: Houston and this is a type of exercise that works
Speaker 10: your whole body. I mean we're talking upper and lower
Speaker 10: body and at the same time, your heart is building
Speaker 10: strength and you're burning body fat. Now watch me a
Speaker 10: couple times doing it, and in no time at all,
Speaker 10: you're gonna be doing box Sarati.
Speaker 5: Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Wait. So I recognized a girl in there named Katherine,
Speaker 1: and she was actually a good friend of Ben's. Okay,
Speaker 1: Catherine Power, And so Jensen texted her and said, Catherine,
Speaker 1: how did you end up in Boxarati? And it turns
Speaker 1: out all of the background, anyone there, anyone there was
Speaker 1: all from the same dance troop, they.
Speaker 4: Got the same prison that. Yeah, it was all the
Speaker 4: Sandy Studio. These were all people who were part of
Speaker 4: this class and they were all told to go down
Speaker 4: and learn the exercise, and that's where they got it.
Speaker 4: And Catherines went on to become this massive mogul and
Speaker 4: like skincare.
Speaker 2: Merit, she created Merit Beauty.
Speaker 4: She has like a wine line with Cameron Diaz and stuff.
Speaker 4: But this is probably the coolest thing she's ever done,
Speaker 4: is what I was assuming based on. And so I
Speaker 4: wrote her and she was like, I can't believe you
Speaker 4: have it, And I sent it to her and she
Speaker 4: stoked about it. But it was just weird to know
Speaker 4: someone in the background.
Speaker 1: So do you guys think any of us could get
Speaker 1: through the forty five minute video?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 3: I couldn't in the state I'm in right now, find
Speaker 3: the get up to get the tape to put it in.
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, this doesn't seem that hard.
Speaker 6: But then when it and it gets more intense, I
Speaker 6: was like, oh, this is this is the real work.
Speaker 3: It just keeps going. It just it's cardio. I think the.
Speaker 5: Idea is, you know, it's not much, but it's when
Speaker 5: you start doing the same thing enough things and you kick.
Speaker 1: Andrew could definitely still do it. Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: And I think I could do it, but I would
Speaker 2: not be happy.
Speaker 3: After all forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: I think I could do forty five minutes with our
Speaker 1: forty minutes of fifty minutes of karate we do.
Speaker 3: We do a lot of meditating in the middle though,
Speaker 3: like a lot of meditating, enough of sitting and sitting
Speaker 3: like hey.
Speaker 2: Wait there, Oh, I see what you're saying, like to learn,
Speaker 2: like what the next thing.
Speaker 3: Is to stand? They literally keep going for forty five minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. No, I still think I can do it.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think I could because I don't have to
Speaker 1: try it, so yes, I stick with it.
Speaker 4: Then, yes, I could do it too. I just did
Speaker 4: it fun karate, I will say too. Like the thing
Speaker 4: that I took out of the video is that he'd
Speaker 4: never like he's so good at just doing the exercise
Speaker 4: and telling people keep moving, you know. Yeah, they never
Speaker 4: really technically instruct anyone. No, like he says, do the
Speaker 4: kicks eight whatever, But he does admit like you're going
Speaker 4: to have to watch this video over and over in
Speaker 4: order to learn it.
Speaker 1: He's like, listen, I couldn't do this all the way through,
Speaker 1: but if you watch it enough times, you'll learn the moves.
Speaker 5: And this is edited, so I never had to do
Speaker 5: it all the way through.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and we do want to know that, like what, like, yeah, we.
Speaker 5: Never did it. I probably never did it all the
Speaker 5: way through. I never did that.
Speaker 4: It was all edited.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because when we worked out with Angel and VICKI,
Speaker 1: I don't think we ever did box.
Speaker 5: ARATEI no, no, I never did it since yeah I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, don't don't ruin it for everybody by saying I've never.
Speaker 3: Done Every week and we went bowling Arati with them
Speaker 3: a couple of times. Yeah, we did, we did.
Speaker 5: That was fun.
Speaker 1: Here is a random moment from the video with Andrew
Speaker 1: leading the charge and honestly, you are great and a
Speaker 1: very confident instructor.
Speaker 2: Let's play clip number eight.
Speaker 10: Here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna do sixteen fast ones. Okay,
Speaker 10: starting with the right. Now, we're gonna do.
Speaker 11: A step cuts ready, one, four, five, six.
Speaker 5: I'm still not people. You are a little bit, a
Speaker 5: little bit.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're so good that you are.
Speaker 3: You're very You're like natural, you're relaxed, but you're still
Speaker 3: keeping people moving.
Speaker 5: Is this an intervention that weird about?
Speaker 3: I think, to be honest, I think a lot of
Speaker 3: us thought we were like going to find the Boxaratti
Speaker 3: video and it was going to be so bad that
Speaker 3: I was like, I can't believe. But it's just not
Speaker 3: so good.
Speaker 4: The protect value is very high. Yeah, yeah, the gym
Speaker 4: looks good. Do you guys know if I say a
Speaker 4: name of someone who may have been friends with Angel
Speaker 4: and VICKI, would you maybe know them?
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 4: Would you know who? Cheeto and Linda Peppinino is.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, A great? Great?
Speaker 4: It was, it was It was my favorite credit. It
Speaker 4: was my favorite credit at the end of the video,
Speaker 4: and it's the box. Serati logo is made by Cheeto
Speaker 4: pa Bonito, which is the name. I thought was like
Speaker 4: an alias that they came up with, but then I
Speaker 4: ran it in Google, in the Google machine, and it
Speaker 4: does say that they own their own gym. Now there's
Speaker 4: the guy.
Speaker 1: It's the guy who owns the box.
Speaker 4: But by the way, that name kind of rhymes too,
Speaker 4: does everyone's name rhyme? Cheeto pap Is is in Washington,
Speaker 4: Cheato and his wife Linda pay Panito in Washington, and
Speaker 4: they they are the rumble m vps of this gym
Speaker 4: and they run Ripped Revival. I mean they're kind of
Speaker 4: the same.
Speaker 3: Points world quality name.
Speaker 4: Maybe I know wait are you guys?
Speaker 5: Are you guys hearing this? Did they take did they
Speaker 5: run with this concept?
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Ripped they're part of the Ripped family, man, I don't know,
Speaker 4: figuring something out here, like maybe they went dynasty. They
Speaker 4: have it, they're doing it. What did you call the Pepperinos.
Speaker 4: It's the pay Banitos, Cheeto pay Banito. I get paid
Speaker 4: ten dollars every time. So anyway, I just wanted to
Speaker 4: ask because they made the box Serati logo. But also
Speaker 4: there they seem pretty great.
Speaker 3: Yeah they do. We don't know anything about them, but
Speaker 3: they they sound okay.
Speaker 1: Well, then we get into round seven, which is the
Speaker 1: cool down, and it is slower and chiller, and they're stretching,
Speaker 1: and that leads us to the end. And here's Andrew's
Speaker 1: little breakdown for us, clip number nine.
Speaker 10: Okay, it's very important to stretch before you work out,
Speaker 10: but it's actually very important to stretch after you work
Speaker 10: out too. And we're gonna do a cool down. Okay,
Speaker 10: first we're going to start with sixteen slow punches.
Speaker 3: Sixteen wait, sixteen punches to cool down.
Speaker 5: Wait to hear about sleep God yikes, and we're doing
Speaker 5: five sets.
Speaker 3: Say all right, we're ready for our two hour cool down.
Speaker 3: Here we go.
Speaker 5: Geez that.
Speaker 1: So then we get into the credits and that includes
Speaker 1: all the names of the Boxerati kids, which as I mentioned,
Speaker 1: Catherine Power is on there.
Speaker 2: And then there is a special thank you yes King Strong.
Speaker 6: So dad gets a Boxerate shout out Boxerai, Do.
Speaker 2: You have any idea why that would be?
Speaker 6: Okay, So my dad and my mom produced, but my
Speaker 6: dad was very involved with Grinders. So he and Angel
Speaker 6: must have already started their business relationship because they they
Speaker 6: found financing for Grinders.
Speaker 5: They actually got investors.
Speaker 6: So they pulled money from you know, probably four different
Speaker 6: investors to pay for And I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 6: there was investors on boxarate and one of them maybe
Speaker 6: my dad helped hook up a relationship. I don't know,
Speaker 6: but yeah, so that was the only thing I could think.
Speaker 6: Or I don't know because I don't know what had
Speaker 6: to be that because my dad wouldn't. I don't even
Speaker 6: if I asked my dad, do you know anything about boxarate,
Speaker 6: which I probably should have.
Speaker 5: We should call him right now.
Speaker 1: That's not that's think.
Speaker 5: Let's just put him right on, give him, give.
Speaker 3: Him remember this.
Speaker 5: He of course is we don't remember it. You just
Speaker 5: make him watch it.
Speaker 4: He's gonna what if he picks up a phone. He's like, sorry,
Speaker 4: I was busy doing box I was my half hour
Speaker 4: cool down.
Speaker 3: Is he not picking up AARROADI.
Speaker 4: He's outside building a new house.
Speaker 6: Laraate, Yeah, Hey Dad, it's righter, Okay, Okay, I have
Speaker 6: a very I'm recording our podcast right now. We're all
Speaker 6: in the room together, and we have a very bizarre
Speaker 6: question for you.
Speaker 5: Can you put him on speaker? All right? It's for dad,
Speaker 5: but you guys can both answer it, all right.
Speaker 6: So we have Andrew Keegan here with us, and who
Speaker 6: you remember Andrew Keagan?
Speaker 5: Okay, Hi guys, all right? So do would you say?
Speaker 6: All the girls like you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You remembers? All right?
Speaker 6: So Andrew did a video with Angel and Vicky before
Speaker 6: we made Grinders in Line, and this video was called Boxerati.
Speaker 3: Do you guys have any memories about this?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, details about it?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 6: So the reason I'm asking is because King Strong gets
Speaker 6: a special thank you in the end credits.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, do they know Cheeto ped?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 6: So so you have no So the only thing I
Speaker 6: can think is that you might have helped Angel find
Speaker 6: an investor for this, because didn't you You guys found
Speaker 6: investors for Grinders.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 2: Right, so seated underbelly of the Roddi family.
Speaker 6: So so, so he might have been thanking you for
Speaker 6: helping him find the money. Is that the I mean,
Speaker 6: there's nothing else you would have?
Speaker 5: Yeah, no idea. It's a mystery.
Speaker 2: We love you, thank you.
Speaker 3: We're gonna go back to recording.
Speaker 6: We just thought maybe there was a more of a
Speaker 6: story there, but I kind of figured you guys wouldn't.
Speaker 3: No, it's just King Strong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, it could be a different one, all right.
Speaker 3: I love you guys. Thank you.
Speaker 4: Sounds like Angel VICKI may have been in the mabarati.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, where are they getting money from?
Speaker 5: Geez.
Speaker 4: Danielle is now convinced that your mom asked if Arthur
Speaker 4: was included because it may have been another king Strap,
Speaker 4: which is, oh, honey, was Arthur in there?
Speaker 9: You know?
Speaker 6: She was trying to go on the theory that they
Speaker 6: like the name to give out credits for it's a
Speaker 6: different schew.
Speaker 5: Ridiculous.
Speaker 1: There are also some outtakes of Andrew getting hit in
Speaker 1: the face for a shot.
Speaker 3: Why does that repeat fourteen jobs? I was like, I
Speaker 3: am on acid right now, I.
Speaker 4: Can't think it was the same shot over.
Speaker 3: It was audio repeating that. I was trying to be crazy.
Speaker 3: I was like, and I don't because angels laugh because
Speaker 3: it sounded familiar to me. I was like, I think
Speaker 3: that's Angel laughing.
Speaker 5: Can we pull that up? I didn't. I don't think
Speaker 5: I saw that part. I don't think I watched it
Speaker 5: to the end. I watched it, but brilliant, but it
Speaker 5: goes over and over.
Speaker 11: Ready ready, ready, ready, ready ready.
Speaker 4: See that last one is okay, so the last different,
Speaker 4: last is different. It does this, Oh, the producers would
Speaker 4: like to thank you. I will say that I do
Speaker 4: think that that has a real David Lynch quality to it.
Speaker 5: At the end of time, that was really weird almost.
Speaker 5: I mean in the set, like I told you guys,
Speaker 5: it wasn't a great I wonder if it was almost
Speaker 5: like their little way of being like, yeah, like this
Speaker 5: is what it was like making this video for us, because.
Speaker 2: It was really that's really weird, really weird so many times.
Speaker 5: So that's a strange part.
Speaker 3: Do you remember anything about any kind of marketing they
Speaker 3: tried to do on this? No, I don't think they did,
Speaker 3: because how do you not take this to every single
Speaker 3: team magazine and sell it through every single makes a
Speaker 3: lot more sense than Grinders because Grinders.
Speaker 5: Is a mess. This was this was in the magazine
Speaker 5: was It was definitely skiing video, but it's not.
Speaker 3: There's no instruction for us a break.
Speaker 6: Yeah, our part of it, but the actual the skating
Speaker 6: part is is pretty legendary and editing is totally crazy.
Speaker 5: And again, you guys are doing that at the time,
Speaker 5: even before all of I mean at the same time
Speaker 5: as skating, like regular skating, skateboarding like it was, and
Speaker 5: that was a big deal in skating was huge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems it could have could have airborne brink.
Speaker 3: These are all movies that were big in the in line.
Speaker 5: Wait, just to be clear, that's on YouTube as well, right,
Speaker 5: because I'm not.
Speaker 3: Going to were alone.
Speaker 4: I was about to say, we're grinders online is next.
Speaker 4: We're doing the whole the whole universe of Marvel Cinematic University,
Speaker 4: and we.
Speaker 2: May even make the Funny.
Speaker 3: Universe.
Speaker 5: Be careful with the grinders out there, concerned.
Speaker 1: We The credits also list an orthopedic surgeon and a
Speaker 1: director of chiropractic studies that endorse the video.
Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't google them. I gave them the benefit
Speaker 4: of the doubts.
Speaker 3: Doctor Pepperatti or whatever his name is.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else that young Boxerati Andy would like
Speaker 1: to say? Let's see if you can get clip number ten.
Speaker 10: Well, keep your eyes over for a Fucarati video.
Speaker 4: I think he's wrong.
Speaker 2: My eyes are still open, red, still been waiting.
Speaker 1: Andrew, thank you for allowing us to spend this time
Speaker 1: with you rewatching Boxerati. Isn't it nice when you rewatch
Speaker 1: something that in your mind's eye you think is going
Speaker 1: to be awful and then.
Speaker 2: You're very pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 5: I'm still struggling with it because it's literally it's interesting.
Speaker 5: It's one of those memories of something you literally tucked away.
Speaker 5: But I do agree with you. Watching I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: it's so much worse in my imagination than I haven't
Speaker 5: seen it again. But there's still there's still the memory
Speaker 5: that I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, well yeah, And then watching watching about ten
Speaker 1: minutes if you get punched in the face at the
Speaker 1: end there.
Speaker 5: That's the part that I think I remember. Maybe it
Speaker 5: was just getting hit in the face so many times memory,
Speaker 5: But no, it was one thing I didn't ask.
Speaker 3: How old were you when you were doing this?
Speaker 2: We must have been it was ninety five, so what
Speaker 2: year were you born?
Speaker 5: Seventy and sixteen, so ninety sixteen.
Speaker 2: Seventy nine, yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 5: I would have been on I would have had to
Speaker 5: have been on thunder Alley by then, which was ready
Speaker 5: so almost almost obviously we met there, so yeah, obviously
Speaker 5: just after so it was like fifteen sixteen when I
Speaker 5: was doing that show. That's kind of wild.
Speaker 1: If you ever changed your mind and with what you're
Speaker 1: doing now and you decide you want to be a
Speaker 1: fitness instructor.
Speaker 5: It seems that we're going to bring back the rotis.
Speaker 5: I think all of us know.
Speaker 3: You guys just say untapped market. That's not even a joke.
Speaker 3: This is an untapped When we get this.
Speaker 5: Done, it's going to be seniors.
Speaker 2: We're going to get tweens dance. We'd been going to
Speaker 2: the kids.
Speaker 5: Actually, it's going to be long enough now where it's
Speaker 5: like just what you need to do at our age, just.
Speaker 3: Two hours.
Speaker 2: Andrew, thank you for being here with us.
Speaker 5: That was so much fun. Yeah, I'm going to.
Speaker 2: Did you enjoy the dinner.
Speaker 5: Was so good? I don't know if people are going
Speaker 5: to see that, but I was completely surprised. I was
Speaker 5: so surprised because I was already in my my PJ
Speaker 5: hasn't even mentioned.
Speaker 1: I really just I mean I got a video of it.
Speaker 1: When you showed up, you committed to the bit we
Speaker 1: told you we were having a slumber party.
Speaker 2: Did somebody ask you to wear pajamas?
Speaker 3: I just did it on your on your own. Thank you.
Speaker 5: You just don't get to wear your Unicorn onesie enough.
Speaker 5: So when I looked at my closet, I was like,
Speaker 5: it's you.
Speaker 3: Tonight, wonderful.
Speaker 2: I love it well. Thank you for being here with.
Speaker 5: Joy the night and I'll be out there eating habi.
Speaker 3: Waiting for watching to sleep outside.
Speaker 5: We're all staying right, okay.
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