WEBVTT - Choosing Single Motherhood Feat. Mela Murder

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<v Speaker 1>Oh mama, I'm failing high.

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<v Speaker 2>My money's gone all all.

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<v Speaker 3>To my jewel.

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<v Speaker 1>Thor keeps turning all Onday.

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<v Speaker 4>What to day?

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<v Speaker 1>What today? He's in blessings man a fretted with every

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<v Speaker 1>lesson learn, Eve, young doll is worth you.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be well if we were lady.

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<v Speaker 1>His immchan calls byarning most into excellent my.

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<v Speaker 5>Bill, welcome back. This is good mom's bad choices. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>Erica and I'm Nila, and we're still New York y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>Wrong? Hey, that's allen, Hi baby.

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<v Speaker 5>We have the cutest two little girls in uh you

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<v Speaker 5>on in the studio today, Little anithyst and Manifest.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, she knocked out.

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<v Speaker 3>That was quick, right, just one, two, three on the

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<v Speaker 3>bog and boom.

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<v Speaker 6>Well we have special guests today, guys. We have Melow Murder. Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>definitely Melo Murders in the building. I'm so excited to

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<v Speaker 6>have you. You are like to be here finally. I

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<v Speaker 6>love when I and I can connect.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, girls, all right, and I guess I got I'm

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<v Speaker 3>here to speak as well.

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<v Speaker 6>I love that I can connect with other single moms

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<v Speaker 6>and and you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby, Okay, we get it.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway, thank you, thank you. If you guys aren't familiar

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<v Speaker 6>with Mellow, definitely check out her instagram.

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<v Speaker 5>You're such an advocate for single parents and single moms specifically,

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<v Speaker 5>and like you're caught, like your let's talk is so

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<v Speaker 5>important and I'm so happy that that you do that

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<v Speaker 5>and that you're able to connect with women in like

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<v Speaker 5>a real way.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, lets people know what let's talk is? Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so let's talk is. It's a movement? I really I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to.

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<v Speaker 4>My mission is for it to be a movement just

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<v Speaker 4>connecting single moms together and support of mental and emotional health.

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<v Speaker 4>Because when I was going through my own things, being

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<v Speaker 4>a new mom, experiencing postpartum depressions, never having anyone ever

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<v Speaker 4>educate me on that, how to prepare myself for it,

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<v Speaker 4>and just feeling like I was the only one going

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<v Speaker 4>through it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I decided to come out.

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<v Speaker 4>And be fully transparent with my story and what I

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<v Speaker 4>had gone through because I was suffering severely and felt

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<v Speaker 4>completely alone. So I did that, and the outpour that

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<v Speaker 4>I received from that was so positive, so overwhelming, just emotional.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, this needs to be a thing, a physical

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<v Speaker 4>thing where where we're meeting up together in person, flush

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<v Speaker 4>to flush physically where we can cry to each other,

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<v Speaker 4>hug each other, and help each other in our struggles.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's basically what it is and how it started.

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<v Speaker 5>And maybe if you give our listeners just a little

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<v Speaker 5>backstory on like who you are? I mean, I meant

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<v Speaker 5>that's such like a broad statement because it's like, how

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<v Speaker 5>do you define who you are?

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<v Speaker 7>What you do?

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<v Speaker 6>I know you're an artist, actor, dancer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I identify as a woman from New York born and raised.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, my father passed away when I was eleven,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's when a lot of my mental health things

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<v Speaker 4>started playing and coming into play, and I just realized

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<v Speaker 4>that I was different from my two other sisters, and

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<v Speaker 4>I felt disconnected often. I felt removed often and just misunderstood.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was constantly trying to find my outlets and

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<v Speaker 4>are you the oldest, I'm the eldest.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And when you say disconnected, like you just felt like, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, like like my mom would literally separate me from

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<v Speaker 4>my sisters. Why because I went crazy. My father passed

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<v Speaker 4>away and so many things happened after that, and I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't feel safe in my home.

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<v Speaker 3>I just didn't feel safe.

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<v Speaker 4>My mom was was seeing the new guy, and just

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<v Speaker 4>like the dynamic of our living situation changed and I

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<v Speaker 4>was super paranoid.

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<v Speaker 3>I like slept with a knife under my pillow like crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>so my mom I was acting out.

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<v Speaker 4>I was being super rebellious as we were just talking

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<v Speaker 4>about and my mom would would just be afraid to

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<v Speaker 4>like have my sisters with me, so she.

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<v Speaker 3>Would literally like keep me away from them. It's actually crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>I learned that I was into dancing and writing when

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<v Speaker 4>I was put in a mental institution.

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<v Speaker 6>I put a student twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, because my stepfather he tried to hit me

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<v Speaker 4>or like, and he's like six foot three and my

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<v Speaker 4>mom was away at work, and you got super aggressive

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<v Speaker 4>with me, and I like like took the knife out

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<v Speaker 4>on him, and I was like, don't don't move, like

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<v Speaker 4>stay right there. And my mom was like, you're out

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<v Speaker 4>of control. I don't know how to help you, and

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<v Speaker 4>she was trying, but I was just so deep in.

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<v Speaker 3>My own, you know, my own pain issues, like yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like the anxiety, the sadness, all of these

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<v Speaker 3>things I wasn't understanding. So she put me in a

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<v Speaker 3>mental institution.

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<v Speaker 4>The next day and I met some of the most

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<v Speaker 4>amazing people of my life, and they're crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>How long were you there for?

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<v Speaker 7>I was in there.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to say two to three weeks, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>not not super crazy long, because I mean there's there's

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<v Speaker 4>people in there, like young young kids in there who

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<v Speaker 4>like were severely mentally ill, and you know, people in

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<v Speaker 4>the system, they're going to tend to the those cases

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<v Speaker 4>more more so than someone who's just like dealing with

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<v Speaker 4>the trauma of like a death in the family and

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<v Speaker 4>things like that. So a child who's rebelling. So in

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<v Speaker 4>there is where I learned that. Okay, I love dancing,

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<v Speaker 4>I love writing. So I started to dance, and in

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<v Speaker 4>high school I took it very seriously. I was in

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<v Speaker 4>like a hip hop voguing group, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it was just my everything. It was my outlet.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt free. I felt like I didn't have all

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<v Speaker 3>of this weight on me that I'd been carrying since

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<v Speaker 3>I was, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Eleven, twelve years old, and it just felt really good.

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<v Speaker 4>Then I started writing music and I had a show.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in a band with my best friend at

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<v Speaker 4>the time, and we had a show in Bard College

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<v Speaker 4>and that's kind of how.

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<v Speaker 3>I got discovered to dance.

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<v Speaker 4>With Major Laser, the opening DJ who I was actually

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<v Speaker 4>with last night, Addie. He connected me with Dippo and

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<v Speaker 4>he was like, yo, like I believe in you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't know you.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why I believe in you, but I

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<v Speaker 4>do and I want to help you, and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>like the universe aligned it, and I was on tour

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<v Speaker 4>Major Laser and then how old are you at that point?

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<v Speaker 5>I was twenty and that must have been like a

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<v Speaker 5>very I mean, because I know, like that scene is

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<v Speaker 5>very I mean it's go go, go, go go party, party, party, party, drink, drink, drink,

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<v Speaker 5>drug drug drug drugs, you know, because I was listening

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<v Speaker 5>to that music and doing all those things, not even

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<v Speaker 5>not even I'm electra, I likes to call electro electra.

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<v Speaker 5>Where was I Miami at some music? First of all,

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<v Speaker 5>Major Laser was there, and I was like ultra Ultra

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<v Speaker 5>That's where I was, Yeah, and I was ultravated yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Same same.

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<v Speaker 5>So at twenty years old, I mean, going on tour

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<v Speaker 5>and traveling the world in that capacity, like from being

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<v Speaker 5>a piece.

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<v Speaker 4>Of shit one day, like nothing like no one like

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<v Speaker 4>confused about my life, doing drugs, being like arranging like

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<v Speaker 4>mess to having so much responsibility and so much I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I was exposed to a world I never imagine, I

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<v Speaker 4>know who existed.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was a lot. I mean, I loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was amazing, but it was a lot. It was

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<v Speaker 3>too much for me at times.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm twenty years old, your baby, baby, your baby,

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<v Speaker 5>like you don't even and there's no rules, there's someone

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<v Speaker 5>telling you slow down, you know, so I can only.

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<v Speaker 4>Imagine no guidance at all. But you know that that

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<v Speaker 4>that journey of Major Laser, I mean, it was some

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<v Speaker 4>of the best moments of my life and it taught

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<v Speaker 4>me a lot about being just a full rounded person.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I've slept on a floor, like we've slept

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<v Speaker 4>on floors, you know, baby, No baby, We've slept on floors.

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<v Speaker 3>We've had to share bunks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>You you adapt, and I've learned how to adapt because

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<v Speaker 3>of Major Laser.

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<v Speaker 4>And now I feel like whatever I go through now,

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<v Speaker 4>because of those experiences, I'm able to adapt.

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<v Speaker 6>Right. So, do you think that experience also kind of

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<v Speaker 6>helped you in motherhood?

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely?

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<v Speaker 4>It made me super resilient because you have to keep

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<v Speaker 4>on going, you have to be strong I mean when

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<v Speaker 4>when when I started with Major Laser is when social

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<v Speaker 4>media kind of just started, Like Instagram was just popping off,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, the Major Laser Instagram we used to be.

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<v Speaker 3>We used to get posted me in the Dancer and

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<v Speaker 3>people used to be like, oh, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys, you're you're bolt sluts and you're fucking diplo and

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<v Speaker 4>like trolling us and saying horrible things about us.

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<v Speaker 3>And I used to be so upset, so sad, and

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<v Speaker 3>like my family would talk to me and be like, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to like you have to be resilient to this.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, you're gonna let what random strangers say about

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<v Speaker 4>you affect you know, your.

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<v Speaker 3>Life, and you know, and it taught me, like, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to be strong despite what.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyone says, what people say. Who cares what people say? Like,

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<v Speaker 4>you're living your life, You're staying true to yourself. You

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<v Speaker 4>know who you are, You're not You're not those things,

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<v Speaker 4>so keep it pushing right exactly. So definitely it taught me,

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<v Speaker 4>taught me some valuable lessons.

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<v Speaker 8>And you're like, you have such a specific style of dance.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like, I mean, and he said, voguing. That's so

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<v Speaker 8>that's so new York.

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna say, like, never would I have ever

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<v Speaker 5>in high school had the opportunity to take a hip

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<v Speaker 5>hop vogue, like even learn where would I go?

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<v Speaker 6>Would be doing that?

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't even learn really about voguing until I moved

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<v Speaker 8>to Atlanta and went to like the gay club all

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<v Speaker 8>the time, like and learned about like housing.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you're being very loud, okay, So like, yeah, how

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<v Speaker 3>do you identify?

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<v Speaker 7>Are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>What's your are you straight?

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<v Speaker 8>Are you gay?

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<v Speaker 3>Bisexually fluid? What's the other one?

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<v Speaker 8>The new one?

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<v Speaker 3>Pan sexual? Like I don't even know what any of

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<v Speaker 3>those things mean now I know. I mean, I I

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<v Speaker 3>just love people. I think that's what I because I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I just love people. And if I connect with you,

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<v Speaker 3>then I connect with you.

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<v Speaker 4>And if I think you're beautiful, then you're you're beautiful,

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<v Speaker 4>and I will, you know, I will give you time,

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<v Speaker 4>and I will you know, I will be open and

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<v Speaker 4>connect and like interact, and you know, I don't have

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<v Speaker 4>like a type or anything like that, and people, I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like people who have types close themselves off to

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<v Speaker 4>all of the beautiful, right, So I.

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<v Speaker 8>Agree, I agree, I identify the same amount people lover.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure in New York is.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh evoking like a gay thing, because like, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it was. It was births here in the

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<v Speaker 4>seventies and in the eighties in Harlem, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's how the gay community would escape the outside realities

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<v Speaker 4>of just you know, being kind of shunned, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and just being like tormented for being exactly who you are.

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<v Speaker 4>So they created the ballroom scene so that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>poor minority, little black and brown boys could.

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<v Speaker 3>Dance and feel like have that escape of fantasy.

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<v Speaker 4>And be like rich, fab Upper east Side, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>white woman, you know, and they created this this world,

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<v Speaker 4>this fantasy.

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<v Speaker 3>And when it was introduced to me, I mean, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it gave to me.

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<v Speaker 4>It offered me an escape from my reality. And I

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<v Speaker 4>was able to be this confident, just other person who

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't feel like in.

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<v Speaker 3>My in my in my day to day life. So

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<v Speaker 3>it was effortless, it was natural.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd never been to a class back then, there were

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<v Speaker 4>noble classes. That's kind of a new thing it's become

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<v Speaker 4>since social media came up. It's been mainstream, like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's kind of transitioned into the mainstream world.

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<v Speaker 3>Which which is cute. It deserves that.

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<v Speaker 4>But I love the fact that it's kind of been

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<v Speaker 4>that underground New York City vibe and like you had

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<v Speaker 4>to be a part of the culture to experience that

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<v Speaker 4>type of magic.

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<v Speaker 8>So for you was like therapeutic. Yes, it's crazy how

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<v Speaker 8>differ things can do that.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, the way you can move your body. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>is this do I have to be double joined?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this is this learned or is it just feels

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<v Speaker 3>it's just a feeling.

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<v Speaker 5>Like y'all you if you guys get a chance to

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<v Speaker 5>go on her Instagram and check out some of her videos,

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<v Speaker 5>because I remember when you were pregnant too, and you're

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<v Speaker 5>doing and doing videos and I'm just like, the female

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<v Speaker 5>body is so incredible and that we can still do

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<v Speaker 5>anything or everything while pregnant.

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<v Speaker 6>If my mom has always told me.

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<v Speaker 5>My mom has always told me that pregnancy is a

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<v Speaker 5>sign of health, and a lot of times that people

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<v Speaker 5>look upon pregnant women as a week almost.

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<v Speaker 6>Or like are you okay?

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<v Speaker 5>You must be protected like they need help, and which

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<v Speaker 5>is true, and trust me, I took all that too,

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<v Speaker 5>and it has helped me.

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<v Speaker 6>But also like this is just proof how I'm healthy.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm strong, and watching your videos and watching you move

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<v Speaker 5>like that and watching your body move like that while

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<v Speaker 5>you are.

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<v Speaker 6>Like very pregnant. I was like, that is so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 5>And even doing those doing that with your child's father,

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<v Speaker 5>like seeing those videos so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved it.

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<v Speaker 6>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of people told me like I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 4>able to do those things, the doctors and things like

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<v Speaker 4>what do you do for a living, And I'm like, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>A I'm a dancer. Well you can't dance, you can't dance.

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<v Speaker 3>And I danced. I danced until I was in when

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<v Speaker 3>I gave birth to her.

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<v Speaker 4>The day before I gave birth to her, I was

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<v Speaker 4>in rehearsal, like choreographing a whole team of dancers for

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<v Speaker 4>fashion week, oh like the day before, and then I

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<v Speaker 4>had my baby, like we were I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 4>be a part of the performance and I was giving birth.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, so don't stop do it all like we are

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<v Speaker 3>so strong. Pregnancy is just oh my.

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<v Speaker 6>God, how did did you enjoy your pregnancy or what?

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<v Speaker 4>I really enjoyed my pregnancy with Amathys. I felt I

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<v Speaker 4>felt like a goddess, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh my God, like I feel so beautiful,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so powerful, I'm doing all these amazing things. And

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<v Speaker 3>then with Manifest, I didn't feel like that at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I hated being pregnant. I wanted to just hide.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to not be seen. I didn't want to tell.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't tell anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, didn't take a break from social media. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't tell my family.

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<v Speaker 4>When so she turned a year old, we traveled the

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<v Speaker 4>day after her first birthday to England doing shows for

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<v Speaker 4>Richard Russell in England. Then I traveled to Paris and

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<v Speaker 4>to Rome and then to Puerto Rico to film Valante.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I went to La where I found out I

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<v Speaker 3>was pregnant. So I was like on my own, hustling,

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<v Speaker 3>mad herd, sick as a dog.

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<v Speaker 4>Pregnant, and I knew that my mom and my family

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<v Speaker 4>who would tell me to get an abortion? I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not, I'm pro choice. It's Amy, Amy baby, No,

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<v Speaker 4>my love, do you want me to put you in

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<v Speaker 4>the stroller?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want me to do that? Don't disturb, sister?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you? Oh emmy, emmy, m M your sister.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, But yeah, when I found out I was pregnant

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<v Speaker 4>with Manifest, I was happy, So that's how I knew.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I'm going through with this because I felt

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<v Speaker 4>so much joy, but I didn't want it to be

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<v Speaker 4>tainted by other people's opinions, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't tell anyone.

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<v Speaker 4>And then during that time, I hadn't spoke to Kaner,

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<v Speaker 4>which is their father, in months. So when I was

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<v Speaker 4>approaching my fifth month of pregnancy, I'm like, I think

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<v Speaker 4>I should tell him.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh he didn't even he didn't know. He didn't. You

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<v Speaker 6>literally didn't tell nobody.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was a secret.

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<v Speaker 5>Well cause I know you've documented your journey with in

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<v Speaker 5>some ways with him too, and like you guys, you

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<v Speaker 5>were together and then you separated and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Get sorry, Yeah, you can take it out. Sh I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>calm down, Okay, are you getting tired? You wanna go

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the crib. It is his motherhood. You

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<v Speaker 3>wanna go in the the crib?

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<v Speaker 6>You hear me?

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<v Speaker 3>You wanna go in the stroller?

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<v Speaker 6>Hamy, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>You wanna put you in the stroller. You could take

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<v Speaker 3>you on my shit. No, this is real life right here.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, you know, trust me. We we have kids.

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<v Speaker 6>We recorded the kids. They interrupt every five seconds. This

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<v Speaker 6>is the protocol over.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love being with moms because it just it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't make you feel weird. M m right cause when

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<v Speaker 3>you're up with moms, the people just stare at you.

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<v Speaker 6>They get stare right, and now it took me a

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<v Speaker 6>long time to get over that make me feeling bad?

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<v Speaker 6>Are we disturbing you? Are you?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>God, you're right feeling bad for right? Like, look at me,

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<v Speaker 3>help me, look at me. Okay, So you said you

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<v Speaker 3>didn't tell him to your five months. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 3>approaching my fifth month and I was like, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's time that I tell him. And what did he say?

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<v Speaker 3>So it's crazy because we were on the phone.

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<v Speaker 4>We're facetiming each other for like an hour before I

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<v Speaker 4>even said anything, so we were just having like a

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<v Speaker 4>normal conversation.

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<v Speaker 7>And then.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm pregnant and he was like yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like yeah, bye bye who No, not by who? Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, who's the dad.

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<v Speaker 4>He started laughing because he thought I was pregnant by

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<v Speaker 4>someone else because we hadn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Spoken so long. And I was like, by you, you're

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<v Speaker 3>the father and he started to cry and.

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<v Speaker 4>He got really emotional but happy, and he felt like

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<v Speaker 4>it made a lot of sense as to why I

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<v Speaker 4>totally pushed back from him and just didn't want to

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<v Speaker 4>talk to him, but that that wasn't the reason I

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<v Speaker 4>made those choices because of who he is. So I

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<v Speaker 4>just again, I didn't want my experience of being pregnant

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<v Speaker 4>again to be tainted by no one's fuckery.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I respect that a lot, because I'm the

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<v Speaker 8>type of person and this is something that I need

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<v Speaker 8>to check myself on. And I think people in general

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<v Speaker 8>do this, Like we ask a lot of opinions even

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<v Speaker 8>though we always go with what we want to do

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<v Speaker 8>in the beginning.

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<v Speaker 6>Why do we do it?

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know, but you know there's so many You

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<v Speaker 8>always seek people's opinions, your parents, your friends, because you

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<v Speaker 8>care what they think.

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<v Speaker 4>But a lot of times it feels good to be

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<v Speaker 4>validated by the people you love, right because it makes

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<v Speaker 4>you feel like you're making a right decision. But if

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<v Speaker 4>it resonates with you, whatever your whatever the choice is

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<v Speaker 4>that you have to make, you know, you feel it

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<v Speaker 4>in your heart and it doesn't matter who says what

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<v Speaker 4>about Like God can come down himself and be like

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, no, this is like this is my choice,

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<v Speaker 4>Like this is what makes me happy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. Period.

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<v Speaker 4>So when I told him that, because he was, you

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<v Speaker 4>know he was, he was bugging a little bit. He

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't believe that I waited that long to tell him,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was just explaining, like this is this is

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<v Speaker 4>my choice, you know, ultimately, like I'm doing this for

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<v Speaker 4>me because I felt love the second that I realized

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<v Speaker 4>I was pregnant. The second I learned I was pregnant,

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<v Speaker 4>and I know amitis needs that needs a sibling. So

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<v Speaker 4>he flew us out like to England, like the week after,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I stood in England until I was seven months,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's when I came home and told my family,

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<v Speaker 4>and then.

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<v Speaker 8>He gave birth.

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<v Speaker 3>What what would you like?

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<v Speaker 5>Were you prepared for him to either be angry not

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<v Speaker 5>want to be involved like you had already got. I guess,

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<v Speaker 5>prepared to go on this journey by yourself, like you

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<v Speaker 5>decided your own to consciously.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess, single parent. I guess in a way, what

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<v Speaker 6>would it have mattered to you?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would have. I think it would have.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I mean, I'm on my own regardless, and that

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<v Speaker 4>that goes without saying that's besides the point.

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<v Speaker 3>But when it comes to his acceptance of our children.

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<v Speaker 3>That affects me. That matters to me.

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<v Speaker 4>I need to I need to feel secure that you

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<v Speaker 4>love them, that you care about them. That doesn't mean that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you have to provide financially. If you're providing

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<v Speaker 4>love and they feel that and you want to be

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<v Speaker 4>a part of their lives, that very much matters to me.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm always open to it, which is why I

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<v Speaker 4>told him, because they deserve that. You know, I can

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<v Speaker 4>be hellighteous and be like, I'm doing this on my own,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know that means you excluded completely, but then

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<v Speaker 4>what does that do for them? So and I and

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<v Speaker 4>I know deep down he is a person who does

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<v Speaker 4>care deeply about us and the and the babies, but

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<v Speaker 4>he's dealing with his own stuff. But I mean, in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of the work, I'm gonna yeah, in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>the work, I was prepared to do that on my own.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just a matter of him knowing that she

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<v Speaker 3>existed and she was gonna either way. Honey.

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<v Speaker 6>I saw that. Also, you posted a picture recently of

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<v Speaker 6>your mom which you guys looked so much alike, and

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<v Speaker 6>she had you have like how many siblings you have, like.

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<v Speaker 5>And she had all of you guys pretty young, So

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<v Speaker 5>seeing that that kind of like give you strength and

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<v Speaker 5>courage to know, like, I can do this because a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people like would be scared to have two

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<v Speaker 5>kids under two and you know, consciously making the decision

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<v Speaker 5>to raise them on your own because he doesn't like her.

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<v Speaker 3>Right he lives in the UK, right, So.

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<v Speaker 6>You're here, and that's that's a scary thing.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I have one and I'm already like, oh shit,

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<v Speaker 5>and my favory daddy lives in my city, right. So

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<v Speaker 5>like seeing your mom or being raised in that way,

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<v Speaker 5>did that did that provide some sort of right for

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<v Speaker 5>you in any way or like.

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<v Speaker 6>Wipe away the fear?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean because with her, I watched her suffer severely.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we witnessed her go through severe domestic abuse

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<v Speaker 4>by my not even my biological father.

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<v Speaker 3>My biological father like dipped like from the beginning. I

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<v Speaker 3>never knew him.

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<v Speaker 4>And my youngest sister, Jasmine, her father. He raised us,

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<v Speaker 4>so he was you know, my my the father figure,

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<v Speaker 4>but he was really abusive to my mom. So I

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<v Speaker 4>saw my mom go through really crazy things and stay

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, allow certain things to happen continuously, And

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<v Speaker 4>I remember being being like five or six and saying

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<v Speaker 4>or understanding that I would never want to be in

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<v Speaker 4>a situation like that. I would never tolerate things like that.

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<v Speaker 4>And then when I was eight years old, like she

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<v Speaker 4>just she woke up and she's like, no, this is enough,

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm not doing this anymore, and she she left

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 4>and she never looked back. That is what motivates me,

0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:30.160
<v Speaker 4>and that shift and whatever happened with her inside.

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:32.159
<v Speaker 3>I remember that.

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 4>Moment and being like, this is who I want you

0:24:34.920 --> 0:24:38.480
<v Speaker 4>to be, mom, And that was like the blueprint that

0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 4>she sent for me, just to have the strength and

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<v Speaker 4>to get through things and to carry on on the

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<v Speaker 4>journey because I see a lot of women go through

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 4>abuse and come back, you know, leave, come back, leave,

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.159
<v Speaker 4>come back. My mom never went back, you know, So

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:56.959
<v Speaker 4>that and and I go back. That's my that's my issue.

0:24:57.960 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 4>It takes a long time for me to move on.

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 4>And my mom she just gets on with it and

0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 4>when she's done, she's done.

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:06.440
<v Speaker 3>So that motivates me.

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:10.399
<v Speaker 4>And she's she's really strong, but sometimes too strong, and

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:12.879
<v Speaker 4>like I wanna be strong, but I also wanna be

0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:15.879
<v Speaker 4>sensitive and I don't want I want my girls to

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<v Speaker 4>know that too, some like she doesn't cry and my

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 4>mom like she's not affectionate.

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 3>And I have to be those things I cause I

0:25:22.720 --> 0:25:22.960
<v Speaker 3>need that.

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.680
<v Speaker 4>Mm. You know, I need kisses, I need hugs, I

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:29.000
<v Speaker 4>need I love yous and I these babies need all

0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 4>of that. So you know, there's certain elements of of

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:35.119
<v Speaker 4>of what she what we all want through me, my

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 4>mom and my sisters that you know, when I'm going

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 4>through rough moments, I think about certain things and I'm like, okay,

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 4>let me keep it pushing.

0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:45.160
<v Speaker 3>And then there's things that happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Now and I'm like, I I'm I'm never gonna be

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:49.639
<v Speaker 4>like you and that in those senses, you know, like

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:53.159
<v Speaker 4>I'm never gonna repeat like what you're doing right now

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 4>to them.

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<v Speaker 7>Right.

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 5>So you said that you and you felt like you

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.199
<v Speaker 5>went through a really dark and rough place after your

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:01.720
<v Speaker 5>first pregnante was it Do you think it was postpartum

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 5>or was there more to what was like happening? And

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:08.359
<v Speaker 5>how did you pull yourself out of that? Cause I

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 5>think a lot of I mean, most women we go through,

0:26:11.240 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 5>you know, having your first child, and so you think

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 5>you're prepared and then it's then and then you leave

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 5>the hospital and you have this person that you're responsible for,

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 5>and everything changes, and your body's changing and your hormones

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:26.159
<v Speaker 5>are changing, and.

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:28.879
<v Speaker 6>Situations are changing.

0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 5>You know a lot of times men they don't know

0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.439
<v Speaker 5>where they fit in right after they're like, okay, well.

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 3>I think for me, when we brought Amays home, it didn't.

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:43.159
<v Speaker 4>And there was never a moment where I felt like, like,

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 4>there's this baby here. It felt like it felt as

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 4>if she was always there.

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 3>It was when and Canner was with me for two months,

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.440
<v Speaker 3>like the first two months of her life. It's when

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 3>he left and I was in.

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.440
<v Speaker 4>Like I was home for the first time, buying myself

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 4>with her, you know, like like she's in the bed

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 4>and I'm looking at her and I'm like it's just

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 4>me and you Like That's when that's when it kicked in,

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.560
<v Speaker 4>and I just I was sad. I was just sad

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 4>about the whole situation. I mean, I was still dealing

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 4>with the depression of what I went through with him.

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 6>She made love both, Yeah, let me let me do that,

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 6>let me get ahead.

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so like when you cheated on me and

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.399
<v Speaker 3>that whole situation happened, it was so shocking, you know.

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 8>So you guys were in a relationship, but you weren't

0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 8>planning for amethysts. But you guys were in exclusive monogamous.

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 3>We were engaged. We were engaged. We lived together back

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 3>and forth. And he's also a dancer too. Yeah, okay,

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 3>mm hmm, So.

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 4>We were we We spent all of our time together.

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.520
<v Speaker 4>We worked together, we made money together, we traveled together.

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 4>We did all these things together. And we got into

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:05.959
<v Speaker 4>an argument because he was on tour with FK Twigs

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:09.119
<v Speaker 4>and I was filming for the Florida Project, and so

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 4>we had some time apart, and during that time he

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 4>changed and I and I felt that when we reconnected

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.640
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, yo, your bugging like I'm pregnant, show

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.880
<v Speaker 4>up for me in whatever ways you can show.

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 6>Up for me.

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 3>And he wasn't. So we got into a bad argument.

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.959
<v Speaker 4>He left to London like the same day, and then

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 4>two days later he was having sex with someone else.

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 4>How'd you find out you're gonna you're gonna You're gonna

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 4>think it's so crazy, But actually my horoscope, like I'm

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 4>not even cadding.

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 3>I read my horoscope, which is something that's like my

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 3>one of my morning rituals, So.

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:56.520
<v Speaker 4>You know, it said someone very close to you, is

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 4>hiding something from you?

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 3>And I was like hmmm, hmmm interesting. So I called Cane.

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 4>I was like, hey, do you have anything to tell me?

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 4>Like are you hiding anything from me? And he just

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 4>broke down crying.

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 4>And he was like, I don't want to tell you.

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna leave me? And I was like, oh, you

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 4>fucked someone.

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 3>Right, He was like yeah, And I knew her. I

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 3>knew the girl. She was like a supporter of mine

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 3>for years. Wow.

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 4>What supported me and Knor's journey, Like when we were engaged,

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 4>like commenting on.

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:35.959
<v Speaker 3>The pictures, that's kind of creepy. No, so creepy, so hurtful.

0:29:36.400 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 3>I felt so betrayed.

0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 8>I was just like almost a fan.

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah with a fan, Wow, with a fan.

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 3>So I was just I was like I don't trust

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 3>no one. I was just dealing with so much of that,

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 3>like paranoia, just okay. I was like, this is what's happening,

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 3>this is who you are.

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 4>And then once that happened, it was just his true

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 4>colors were just a rab and you know, who he

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 4>really was started to surface and I'm like, oh my.

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 3>God, it's too late, Like I'm already pregnant. Guys been

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 3>dating up until the pregnancy. Two years we were together.

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 4>You know, everything happened really fast, so that was just

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 4>another thing, Like even the getting pregnant, it all happened

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 4>so fast. But I was like, let's just let's just

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 4>deal with this. Let's just even though I never really

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 4>dealt with it, you know, I was just being strong

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 4>for the sake of her and the fact that I

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 4>was about to be a mother. Let's try.

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Let's just do what we have to do.

0:30:35.240 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 4>And you know, nothing changed on his behalf. And he's

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 4>he's really young, you know, so he's younger than me. Yeah,

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 4>he's twenty four, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's just

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 4>in a completely different headspace than I am. And I

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 4>was dealing with like I was feeling all of those

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 4>feelings but not dealing with them because I was I

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 4>was like, I don't have time to deal with these

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 4>feelings right now because I have to prepare for amethysts.

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 3>And then once she.

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 4>Came, like I couldn't deal with it then because she

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 4>was here, you know, And then he left and I

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 4>was alone with her, And it was when I was

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 4>alone with her that there was no more hiding or

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.239
<v Speaker 4>no more pushing things like under the carpet, like they

0:31:19.320 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 4>were coming up, they were surfacing.

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 3>I was seeing them. I would start crying, you know,

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 4>I was.

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Now it was starting to like affect my life.

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 4>And that's when I decided to come forward with what

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 4>I went through because I needed community and I didn't

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 4>have it. I felt so alone and I was just

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 4>over and I'm like, I don't I don't want to

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 4>put myself in a position where I feel like something deep.

0:31:44.760 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 3>Could happen, you know. So I did it to like

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 3>save my life.

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 8>I think a lot of times, as a woman, we

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 8>do put so many like marbles into like our men

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 8>and our relationships that we forget like the community, the sisterhood,

0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 8>the village that it's important, you know, and that doesn't

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 8>happen the way you wanna happen to happen.

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Then who who do you go to?

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 7>Right?

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 5>What do you when you so when you decided to

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 5>start let's talk, I mean I was this based out

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.959
<v Speaker 5>of people because I'm sure I'm assuming connecting to your

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 5>story and wanting and feeling like I can relate to

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 5>you and like, okay, how can we all get into

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 5>a room together?

0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 7>MM?

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 6>When you guys come together.

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 5>Like I I like, do you guys just share your

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 5>stories as a single as single parents and single moms.

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 6>It's for for most it's a it's form single mothers.

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 5>So I I mean even like I was working at

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 5>pictures that I was telling I was telling you, I

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 5>was so bubb that I missed.

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 6>This last one because it just looked so beautiful. It

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 6>looked so emotional, so and like a a place where

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 6>people can kind of just like let it all out.

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 8>I just cry.

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 4>That's the atmosphere. The atmosphere is you can come and

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 4>r just be. You know, if you don't wanna talk,

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 4>you don't have to talk. If you don't want to

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 4>be seen, you don't have to be seen. But if

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 4>you do, you can. If you want to cry, you can.

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean, there was so many different elements of it.

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 4>I was taking it, like sitting back, taking it all

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 4>and like.

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Look at this.

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 4>Look at how powerful we are when we come together.

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 4>Look at how beautiful we are when we come together.

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 4>They were like two random moms that just met. Who

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 4>was like one of the mom's like expressing milk out

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 4>of the other mom's boob.

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 3>This is beautiful. I love this and there was some

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 3>mixy situations there too.

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 4>There was a mom who was like the mistress of

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 4>another mom, like the guys you don't.

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 3>Situation.

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 8>That's how she came.

0:33:45.240 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 6>And they didn't know they were going to be coming together,

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 6>and they know they were both there.

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:53.000
<v Speaker 3>They were both no girl feeling. I mean, so so

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:57.280
<v Speaker 3>how yes, I know? I mean because I wanted to

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 3>be there.

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 4>I want everyone's feeling that emotions are valid in a

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 4>space like let's talk, you know, so, I mean, but

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 4>I didn't want it to get crazy, so I told her.

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 4>She approached me and she's like, I'm feeling really triggered

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.239
<v Speaker 4>right now, like the woman who just spoke broke me

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 4>and my family up.

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, Okay, your feelings are valid. How

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 4>you feel right now is valid, but.

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Like surrender to surrender to your anger. Don't allow that

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 3>to you know.

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:32.479
<v Speaker 4>Change your experience and all of this, like still allow

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 4>yourself to be open, you know, choose forgiveness, you know,

0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 4>like let's let's come together. Because I mean, in a

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 4>moment like that, I was thinking, how would I.

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 6>React, right, I'm thinking of right now, I might see.

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 3>Red honestly, right right?

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:55.160
<v Speaker 4>But she kept her composure and stayed and she stayed,

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 4>and you know, it was it was beautiful, but things

0:34:57.719 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 4>like that. I was telling many elements, but ultimately it

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 4>was very very very supportive people. I mean, we passed

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 4>the mic around and I just wanted everyone to introduce

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 4>themselves to one another.

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.920
<v Speaker 3>What's your name, what do you identify? You know, why

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 3>are you here? Things like that, and then from.

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:21.320
<v Speaker 4>There the discussion just naturally kind of picks up. We

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 4>weren't able to get too too deep in because there

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 4>was so many women and we didn't have a lot

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 4>of time, but we hit the we hit the hit

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 4>the surface of a lot, and we got to hear

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 4>just a small bit of everyone's story and it was beautiful.

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.279
<v Speaker 4>So I think my next one it's going to be

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 4>much more low key and were.

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 9>We'll actually be able to have a discussion, right, you know,

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.919
<v Speaker 9>So I think the one huge commonality but I'm just thinking,

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.320
<v Speaker 9>because I'm thinking about your VET and single motherhood is

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 9>I think for the.

0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:57.919
<v Speaker 8>Most part, not in all cases, because some people choose

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 8>to have kids alone. Even those cases, Honestly, I think

0:36:01.080 --> 0:36:04.719
<v Speaker 8>that we're spoon fed like this image of family and

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:08.279
<v Speaker 8>we have this fairy tale like idea of how we're

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 8>supposed to be and how like when you have kids,

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 8>you're supposed to have a partners, you supposed have a spouse,

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 8>supposed to be married with, have a white fucking picket fence.

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 3>We're supposed to have.

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:18.880
<v Speaker 8>Help, you know, and and a lot of times we

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:21.399
<v Speaker 8>even married women, you know, go through stuff and don't

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 8>have that support. But I think that's huge. That's the

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 8>first disappointment. That's the first like it's almost it's traumatizing.

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 3>Look when you.

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 8>Realize, like this fairy tale story that you like cut out.

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 8>And I think that's why a lot of women go

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 8>back and go back and go back and endure a

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:41.280
<v Speaker 8>lot of bullshit because we are so gung ho about

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 8>the father, the mother, the children, like what a family

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 8>looks like, and not being like an unwed single moment,

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 8>especially for women of color, I think too is like,

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 8>oh great, I'm gonna be like a single mom, you know,

0:36:50.680 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 8>like a single blackgma.

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 3>This is there's a stigma attached to it, you know.

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 8>And I just sometimes but like not so much now,

0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 8>but before, like I could literally just think about that

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 8>and cry just in any in any situation.

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I'll be walking down the street, like, look

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 3>at that half motherfucker family. Yeah, no, of course.

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 10>So it doesn't matter where you come from, what your

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 10>background is, but class like socially, you know, but those

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 10>that disappointment that you know, it's such so hard to

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 10>digest and to understand, so like a community like that,

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 10>you know, to realize, oh shit, like I'm not the

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:26.359
<v Speaker 10>only one.

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 8>Oh, this doesn't make my family any less whole. I

0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 8>can do this, I can see you doing it, and

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.280
<v Speaker 8>I can call a friend that Name's a huge difference.

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 4>And when you're in a when you're in a space

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 4>like that with so many different women who have so

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 4>many different stories, you realize that your situation is not

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 4>that bad and it makes you grateful because some of

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 4>the things that these women.

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 3>Have gone through, I mean, I oh my god, Like

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 3>it was hard to hear.

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 4>It was hard to even think that some women can

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 4>go through that and endure certain levels of abuse, like

0:37:59.840 --> 0:38:02.880
<v Speaker 4>in front of their kids, and you know, having their

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:06.239
<v Speaker 4>power taken away by a man, and you know, having

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 4>to build yourself up from like being stripped down to nothing,

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, like raped of of who you are. So

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 4>I hear those stories and it makes me feel so blessed.

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 4>It makes me feel so grateful, and I know my

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:26.320
<v Speaker 4>situation can be worse. It's it's hard, I stuffer, I

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 4>go through my moments, but it's not that bad. And

0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 4>that's why I feel like I can do it.

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 3>I can do this for them. I can provide these

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 3>things for them because it's.

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 5>Not that bad and it is so much So how

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:45.720
<v Speaker 5>does their father feel about your your cause an advocate

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:48.760
<v Speaker 5>of single moms, because to him does he feel because

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 5>you know, also, there's this whole idea of what a

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 5>single mom is. Right, you're not a single mom because

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 5>the dad is around, right, But like, no, it's not true.

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 8>Only single doesn't exist. It's disappeared from that.

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 7>He does.

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:08.920
<v Speaker 4>He follows, Oh my god, yes, yes, oh my god

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 4>very much.

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 3>So when I when I when I first came out

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:17.879
<v Speaker 3>our girl, oh my god, please don't Jesus.

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no, baby, you're biting me and it's

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 4>not okay, you're tired. When I first came out with

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.800
<v Speaker 4>the post, he was, oh my god. His whole family,

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 4>his family, Yeah, they were like, you know, take your

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 4>business offline and that doesn't have anything.

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 3>To do with the rest of the world.

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.840
<v Speaker 4>And you're you're painting him out to be a monster

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 4>and all these things like he's he's a good person,

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, okay, you're making it all about him

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:51.440
<v Speaker 4>and this has nothing to do with him.

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:52.840
<v Speaker 3>This has everything to.

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.920
<v Speaker 4>Do with me and what I'm going through because guess what,

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:58.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm the one here with my baby. I'm by myself

0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 4>with her, and he has his freedom.

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:01.359
<v Speaker 6>Right, he's doing what he has.

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.160
<v Speaker 3>He's doing, he's living his life.

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 4>I don't have that, so I need support because if

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't, I'm gonna go crazy.

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:13.279
<v Speaker 3>Period. So he, I mean, he still resents me. He

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 3>holds mad resentment for me, O the like over like

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 3>everything about me coming out and then what came of it,

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:26.640
<v Speaker 6>Even seeing the beautiful community that you're building. He doesn't.

0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 6>He doesn't understand.

0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm just curious, Like I get, and I mean I

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 5>don't want to say I get, but like the actual

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:35.240
<v Speaker 5>what you do bring women together?

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 6>Does he feel like excluded from that because he feels

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 6>like for sure, yeah, he's Does he consider himself a

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 6>single parent?

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:47.279
<v Speaker 3>No? And I want to tell that, like, I don't

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 3>think he considers me a single mom. He'll say to me,

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:56.279
<v Speaker 3>like I I'm here, you know. I'm I'm willing to

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:58.880
<v Speaker 3>be a part of their lives. What is wrong?

0:40:58.960 --> 0:40:59.280
<v Speaker 4>Baby?

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:00.720
<v Speaker 3>What? Baby?

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 6>What is the matter?

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm just afraid you're gonna bite me. I don't wanna

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:04.760
<v Speaker 3>be bit.

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 6>Just got promise.

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:15.040
<v Speaker 4>But but yeah, cause he feels because you know, he

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:17.400
<v Speaker 4>wants to be there, but you know he's in England,

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm in New York.

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:19.239
<v Speaker 3>That that's why.

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.400
<v Speaker 4>And it's not that adult. It's so much deeper than that,

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 4>and so much deeper than that. But he doesn't get it.

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 4>I think he's intimidated by by what I've created, and

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 4>I feel like in a way he wish, he wished

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 4>that he had something like that. But I mean, what

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 4>what has he gone through to, you know, to provoke him.

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 3>To do something like that.

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 4>He He's has not experienced any t I've never hurt

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 4>him in ways that he or disrespected him in the

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 4>ways that he did to us.

0:41:54.120 --> 0:42:02.359
<v Speaker 3>So amat this No? Hey, well, I mean not say

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 3>anything but the truth, you know what I'm saying? Like, Yeah,

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 3>So do you think he'd move here?

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:07.479
<v Speaker 6>Or you would?

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 4>Would you move there?

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 3>He won't move here?

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 6>Would you move there?

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 4>I don't I want to because like I want, I

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 4>wanted to live there before I even met him, you know, so,

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 4>and I want them to go to school out there.

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 4>I think the school system is light years better out

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:26.879
<v Speaker 4>there than it is over here, so and it will

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 4>be easier. I mean when he is here, the help.

0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 4>He helps me a lot. And I mean that's what

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:33.360
<v Speaker 4>it comes down to.

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 3>I just need help.

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:34.879
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Fuck, I wanted to do the Damn this is a lot, right, So.

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:48.879
<v Speaker 6>What's like, do you have time to date?

0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:49.360
<v Speaker 7>What is that?

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 6>Like she's even on your radar? Like em will you

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 6>are you still in love with with?

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:55.320
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Ha?

0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 6>Would you have another baby?

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 3>Would you?

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 6>Would you consciously do have another baby with him? As

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 6>a single?

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:03.439
<v Speaker 4>Hell?

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Like, wherever I go after this, I want to feel.

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:15.880
<v Speaker 4>I want to feel so secure and in whatever whatever

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:20.120
<v Speaker 4>situation I'm I enter after this. I mean, I've learned

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 4>so much from this baby, don't. I'm not the same

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:29.440
<v Speaker 4>person I was before being with Canner. I'm a lot

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm hm.

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 3>My spirit is like fierce, you know, and I feel like.

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 6>Yes, you know what I mean, feel so powerful?

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean because I look, I'm here taking care

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:47.400
<v Speaker 4>of two humans every.

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 3>Single day, you know, creating trying like I.

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:54.319
<v Speaker 4>Think about my legacy often and I think about how

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:57.320
<v Speaker 4>I want them to remember me once I'm gone, and

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 4>it's just I don't have the energy to give. I

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 4>don't have the time to give anyone who's just not authentic, solid,

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:09.480
<v Speaker 4>pure and.

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 3>Just down, you know down.

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 4>And people are not like that, I mean my experience

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 4>so far. I mean, people are just not solid, you know.

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:23.280
<v Speaker 4>And I do blame a lot on social media. Everyone

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 4>wants to be.

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 3>A somebody, everybody.

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 6>Wants to be and are so easily distracted. There's always like,

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 6>oh let me try that exactly, you know.

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you know you have to come back into

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:43.880
<v Speaker 4>who you are, like your humanity because what if what

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.240
<v Speaker 4>if the Wi Fi was turned off forever?

0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:46.719
<v Speaker 7>Right?

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 4>How would you identify like yourself as who are you then?

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:52.359
<v Speaker 4>Without without your phone?

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:52.840
<v Speaker 3>Who are you?

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 7>Right?

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Who are you? Well? How would you be?

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 4>Who are you?

0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 6>Without your fifty thousands?

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 5>Because it's so funny, like how followers are, like how

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 5>we value people, like how there's like a personal currency so.

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 6>Straight legitimately, legitimately or importance is based on your followers.

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 4>And that's absolutely all shit because I've met I've met

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 4>people like these influencers that aren't shit.

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 6>They're not terrible people.

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, not everyone obviously, but like a lot of them

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.439
<v Speaker 11>are though, or like empty people, like Hi, I'm trying

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 11>to hello, yeah, like like like we were even just.

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:34.719
<v Speaker 6>Talking about someone posted something the other day like I'm

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 6>so tired.

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 5>Of these women who are are throwing these female empower

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 5>empowering events but are mean.

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:42.120
<v Speaker 6>Girls in real life.

0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:42.919
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 5>That like when you see they see these girls and

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 5>they post all these pretty pictures and they seem like, oh,

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:49.600
<v Speaker 5>they're so pro woman problem, and then you meet them

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 5>and it's like they could give a fuck about who

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 5>you are, why you came to their event, and don't

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 5>even care to even engage in a real conversation with you.

0:45:57.160 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 5>You're more worried about taking the perfect perfect picture to

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 5>fit their curated feet.

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 7>And it's just like, wow, it's the norm now, though,

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 7>And I feel like that's what's made me so withdrawn

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 7>from connecting to people and even you know, allowing like

0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 7>allowing the thoughts to enter my head.

0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 3>Of people being around my babies. I'm like no, no, no, no,

0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:24.399
<v Speaker 3>no no no, So that holds me back. You're also

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 3>in a very vital time right now. You have two

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 3>under two.

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 8>You know, you're not even thirty races. He would be

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 8>twenty nine.

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a lot. That's that's a lot. Like and

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 3>and you're doing it by yourself, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think because we got a we got an

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 8>advice question to be read that advice question someone asked

0:46:41.160 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 8>about getting like she was saying, like her friend was

0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:46.800
<v Speaker 8>telling her she's making excuses she can't go out, but

0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:48.399
<v Speaker 8>the baby's like not even a year old.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye oh my god.

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and I'm just like my friends didn't understand why

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:52.640
<v Speaker 6>like that she's.

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like couldn't do other ship anymore. But like, was

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<v Speaker 3>that other front a parent?

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 4>Because it yeah, why why because you're not you don't

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:07.760
<v Speaker 4>understand because you're not you can't understand you're not a parent.

0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:09.560
<v Speaker 3>People say that to me all the time.

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh, you use your kids as an excuse to like

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 4>be a bitch, because people think because I don't go

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 4>and meet up with them that I'm a bitch, or

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 4>if I don't answer my phone when they call me,

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:21.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm a bitch. But it's like I got real things

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 4>that I'm tending to and people can't hear that, and

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 4>people who aren't parents.

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Don't understand that. So I mean I'm not here.

0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm just too tired to like explain myself to you

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 4>or anyone, you know what I mean, Like if you

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 4>understand and if you want to be my friend and

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 4>you know, like offer me some sort of like any

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:44.239
<v Speaker 4>form of like conversation anything, that's cool.

0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:46.320
<v Speaker 3>But if not, then just keep it pushing, like I

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:47.360
<v Speaker 3>don't have the energy.

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 7>Yea.

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:51.359
<v Speaker 8>And there is like when you have like, first of all,

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 8>the first year, like you're pregnant one year.

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:55.680
<v Speaker 3>When there's the first year, you're like you have a

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 3>baby connected to your titty at all times. It's like

0:47:58.120 --> 0:47:58.799
<v Speaker 3>basically a cow.

0:47:59.800 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 8>Yeah seriously, And then like and too, they get their

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 8>kind of more independent, so it does. It's like a

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 8>two year minimum situation where like she's gonna shift and

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 8>then not to mention, you have to get back to yourself,

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 8>which is like wait, who am I now?

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 3>Can I do this?

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 8>Can I do that?

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:14.439
<v Speaker 4>Wait?

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 6>I can't do Molly on Friday?

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 7>Wait?

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Maybe on Eve? You know, like okay, maybe I shouldn't,

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, like I love you. It's true, it's true.

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:26.359
<v Speaker 8>It's not like you can't ever no, oh my god,

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 8>like weeks ago, yeah, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Did God, I can't wait. No, literally, like I don't

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 3>hate to say that, you like, I just want to

0:48:38.440 --> 0:48:40.680
<v Speaker 3>be able. I want to know that like I will

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 3>have fun again, Yes you will.

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:48.960
<v Speaker 2>There's like yes, she's like no not for a while,

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:56.279
<v Speaker 2>that was weird timing, like no, you know, yeah.

0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:01.800
<v Speaker 8>And then there's always going to be moms because I

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:04.279
<v Speaker 8>have friends who you know, who are in similar situations,

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:05.000
<v Speaker 8>have two kids.

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:08.759
<v Speaker 6>And honestly, this is what aside from I was going

0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:11.440
<v Speaker 6>to say, I think sometimes women.

0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:15.400
<v Speaker 8>Who have don't understand what you're going through. And maybe,

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:17.360
<v Speaker 8>like like you said, your mom had that shift and

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 8>she she decided to leave that guy. A woman who can't,

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:25.480
<v Speaker 8>who can't tap into that which is it's hard. There's

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:28.439
<v Speaker 8>envy even though you're struggling and there's things that are hard.

0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:31.399
<v Speaker 8>People will turn your numnose up on you and judge

0:49:31.440 --> 0:49:33.680
<v Speaker 8>you because they can't do the things that you do.

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:36.759
<v Speaker 8>They think they can't, they think they can't, they think

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 8>the fear is so great, so they'll be in unhappy relationships.

0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:40.800
<v Speaker 8>They'll make excuses.

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 3>And then even for.

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:43.040
<v Speaker 8>Erica and I, like, you know, we have this platform

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:44.440
<v Speaker 8>and we do the shit we do, and you know,

0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:46.239
<v Speaker 8>we make a lot of we make a lot of

0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:49.800
<v Speaker 8>jokes about our bad choices quote unquote, But the truth

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 8>is is like our kids are a little bit older now,

0:49:51.880 --> 0:49:54.319
<v Speaker 8>you know, and we're not bad moms. But I think

0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 8>that I have friends who are like, oh, you do

0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 8>kind of go out a lot, Like no, if you're

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:01.240
<v Speaker 8>just locked in the house, so you're telling so you're.

0:50:01.200 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Jealous of my friend.

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't want that would make me feel like shit

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 4>if someone said that, of course, because we're triggered by

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:08.800
<v Speaker 4>someone who's coming at our motherhood.

0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 8>That's like the number you want to get in a

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:14.280
<v Speaker 8>fight quick talk shit about somebody's mother. I oh my god,

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:19.480
<v Speaker 8>you know, absolutely, So it's important to know that there

0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:21.440
<v Speaker 8>is like at the end of the tunnel and.

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<v Speaker 6>Find and balance and finding balance, and you're in a

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:25.880
<v Speaker 6>place right now. Probably her balance is hard.

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:26.600
<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I went out two nights in a row,

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:35.600
<v Speaker 3>like Saturday, Sunday, and I woke up this morning. I'm like, damn,

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:38.160
<v Speaker 3>like I did that, Like I did two nights in

0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:39.359
<v Speaker 3>a row, Like should I have been here?

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 4>She just got out of the hospital, but I just

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:44.359
<v Speaker 4>needed it. I'm like the mom guilt, the mom guilt came.

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:48.280
<v Speaker 3>But she was fine. She's perfectly fine. She's fine. They're fine.

0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:50.400
<v Speaker 3>It's just you know, I'm always like they need me.

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 3>They just they need me. They I'm their mother and

0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:54.920
<v Speaker 3>they need me, and so I have to be here.

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:56.880
<v Speaker 3>But they also need to learn independence.

0:50:57.000 --> 0:51:00.399
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and I think like raising an independent child this morning,

0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 8>because we're not always gonna be there, and and you

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:04.319
<v Speaker 8>don't always want him to you know, you want them

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:07.360
<v Speaker 8>to socialize them And I'd be like, my daughter's with

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:09.879
<v Speaker 8>my dad right now in Philly and I'm like, here,

0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 8>here's your grandpa.

0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Time have a good time, like.

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:14.279
<v Speaker 4>You know I had. Oh, this is a major one.

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 4>I actually I was entertaining the thought of letting Amethysts

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 4>go to England.

0:51:22.960 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 3>With her dad for a little bit.

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:27.279
<v Speaker 4>And I and I went over it with my mom

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:29.399
<v Speaker 4>because you know, we want to be validated by our

0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:29.919
<v Speaker 4>loved ones.

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:31.280
<v Speaker 3>And she went crazy.

0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:35.800
<v Speaker 4>She was like, how could you ever even you know,

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 4>how could you even consider something like that.

0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:43.279
<v Speaker 6>That's your child and that's your father and he has

0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:43.680
<v Speaker 6>to learn.

0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:46.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I deserve, like it's.

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:49.839
<v Speaker 8>Time you've give you know, you put in your work,

0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 8>You've put in your work a lot, and he's had

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:53.839
<v Speaker 8>the he's had the fucking.

0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:59.320
<v Speaker 6>Time. So yeah, sometimes but the mamma guilt that the

0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:02.000
<v Speaker 6>mom has passed on to the daughters. Shit.

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 3>But you know what, I think that is too.

0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:06.279
<v Speaker 8>I'm realizing I think mom, like not that moms can

0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:11.319
<v Speaker 8>be lowkey haters, but like we are in a different time.

0:52:11.960 --> 0:52:14.240
<v Speaker 8>They didn't have this community. They didn't have this power.

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:16.160
<v Speaker 8>This enlightened may be like, hey, I have a place.

0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:18.799
<v Speaker 5>Even my mom with this podcast, I was like, did

0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 5>you have a place to go listen to other women

0:52:21.160 --> 0:52:22.320
<v Speaker 5>going through your experience?

0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:23.360
<v Speaker 3>What did you do?

0:52:23.960 --> 0:52:25.800
<v Speaker 5>And she was like cause she first she's like I

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 5>don't understand. You're telling your business and we radeos and happening,

0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:30.200
<v Speaker 5>and I'm like.

0:52:30.360 --> 0:52:31.840
<v Speaker 6>Who this baby?

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:32.439
<v Speaker 3>Women?

0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:36.600
<v Speaker 5>Can we created a community like where like I can

0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:39.040
<v Speaker 5>connect to another woman that's going through my experience and

0:52:39.120 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 5>I feel connected and it makes me, you know, I'm

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:41.720
<v Speaker 5>not alone.

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:44.360
<v Speaker 6>And it just keeps trickling and trickling, as you know.

0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:48.560
<v Speaker 6>And it's like she couldn't understand, because now she gets

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:50.880
<v Speaker 6>it more and more so, but she was like, I

0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:53.400
<v Speaker 6>don't understand. Like I'm like, yeah, cause you.

0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:53.840
<v Speaker 5>Didn't have it.

0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:56.839
<v Speaker 4>It's a generational condition and you didn't have her grand

0:52:57.040 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 4>her great great grandmother taught her great great grandmother, you know,

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:01.840
<v Speaker 4>and like you suffer in silence.

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:04.759
<v Speaker 8>You don't tell everybody, you don't nobody your business like that.

0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 4>That's the that's the biggest thing, Like no one needs

0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Speaker 4>to know your business. How you know, how people look

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:12.480
<v Speaker 4>at you matters, Like what they think of you matters.

0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:15.719
<v Speaker 4>You have to come off like you're you're perfect. And

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:17.640
<v Speaker 4>it's like a lot of those women.

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 3>They have they kill themselves. They are so tormented from

0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:25.360
<v Speaker 3>within that they can't take it and they take.

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 4>Either their kids' lives or their lives. And that's not happening, Like, no,

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:33.799
<v Speaker 4>not on my time, not on my watch. If your mother,

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 4>you know who has connected with me, I'm gonna care

0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 4>for you. I'm gonna provide you with the with the

0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:41.520
<v Speaker 4>resources so that you don't feel like you want to

0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:45.960
<v Speaker 4>end yourself, you know, because that's what that's what suffering

0:53:46.000 --> 0:53:50.680
<v Speaker 4>in silence leads to. That. So, I mean, I don't

0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 4>know how our ancestors did it, you know, community you

0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 4>know they have.

0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:57.799
<v Speaker 6>I mean it was hard, but I mean I mean

0:53:57.920 --> 0:54:00.760
<v Speaker 6>think about that age mentality.

0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:01.440
<v Speaker 3>It's real.

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:04.960
<v Speaker 8>Come from like a very real indigenous place.

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:07.640
<v Speaker 3>It does like I'm going to fear the cooking.

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't know at what point in like the motherhood

0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:13.680
<v Speaker 5>a parenthood breakdown, that community became less and less and less,

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:16.160
<v Speaker 5>that we became more and more isolated where women are

0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:18.719
<v Speaker 5>supposed to figure this shot on their own. Colonly don't

0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:21.319
<v Speaker 5>ask for help, and you don't ask your friends for help.

0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:25.480
<v Speaker 5>You feel guilty for like asking for help, and like

0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 5>I mean.

0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:29.040
<v Speaker 4>It's also like the patriarch patriarchy and like having the

0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:33.399
<v Speaker 4>men be these you know, they're the gods and they're

0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:37.439
<v Speaker 4>in power, and we're voiceless, we're we're just the woman.

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:40.359
<v Speaker 8>They've actually painted a picture and we've accepted. I've read

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:42.160
<v Speaker 8>something the other day and it's like the most we

0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:46.320
<v Speaker 8>uphold the patriarchy the most, Yeah, because we've allowed it

0:54:46.440 --> 0:54:50.560
<v Speaker 8>to sustain this long, you know, and we've allowed we've

0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:54.360
<v Speaker 8>we've adopted their image of us and how we're supposed

0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:56.400
<v Speaker 8>to be. And this is like the beginning I think

0:54:56.440 --> 0:54:59.360
<v Speaker 8>of a turnover in that series of events.

0:54:59.480 --> 0:55:00.359
<v Speaker 6>I guess that's true.

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:03.640
<v Speaker 5>I guess that's true because there's things in my mind

0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:06.680
<v Speaker 5>that I know are totally programmed through society and through

0:55:06.719 --> 0:55:10.160
<v Speaker 5>the male, through the male voice and eyes and all

0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 5>those things you know that I had to check myself.

0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:14.759
<v Speaker 8>In and I check myself all the time, like why

0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 8>do I feel that way? Wait?

0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Why do I think? Why do I feel bad? Why

0:55:17.640 --> 0:55:19.520
<v Speaker 3>don't you know? Like why can't I do this? As

0:55:19.760 --> 0:55:20.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm somebody's mama.

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:22.600
<v Speaker 8>I need to wear broad I can't really see through

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 8>top right now stays fed somebody they need to be seen.

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

0:55:28.200 --> 0:55:31.840
<v Speaker 4>I love it. I really really do women need to

0:55:31.880 --> 0:55:36.720
<v Speaker 4>feel that more like you're beautiful, You're yeah, you're secre

0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:40.319
<v Speaker 4>feeling hard. Yeah, you know, even when it comes down

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:44.640
<v Speaker 4>to pain, I've been dealing. I'm still I've been so

0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 4>triggered by this abortion.

0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Man, it's really, oh.

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:52.279
<v Speaker 4>My god, it's just well, it puts I can't even

0:55:53.640 --> 0:55:56.800
<v Speaker 4>it makes me emotional because I'm still processing my abortion,

0:55:57.080 --> 0:56:00.160
<v Speaker 4>and I just I feel very triggered. And you know,

0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:02.160
<v Speaker 4>a lot of things have been coming up a lot

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:06.640
<v Speaker 4>of my feelings about my abortion, and you know, like

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:08.920
<v Speaker 4>kind of like post traumatic stress where I can be

0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:13.759
<v Speaker 4>thinking about something about that and like start crying and

0:56:13.880 --> 0:56:16.279
<v Speaker 4>I'll talk to my friends and they're like, yo.

0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:20.600
<v Speaker 3>You need to speak to like dude, like you need

0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:22.560
<v Speaker 3>to hit him up and like just have closure with it.

0:56:23.120 --> 0:56:27.759
<v Speaker 4>And I feel like most women would never like ever,

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:30.800
<v Speaker 4>they would, They're just afraid of I don't know what,

0:56:30.960 --> 0:56:35.120
<v Speaker 4>maybe like the rejection, maybe if the other person won't care.

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:38.520
<v Speaker 3>And with me, like I don't care, like I don't

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:41.879
<v Speaker 3>care what he feels. I'm gonna speak about how I feel.

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:44.839
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna, I'm gonna shine light, I'm gonna vent, I'm

0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:45.920
<v Speaker 4>gonna express myself.

0:56:45.960 --> 0:56:47.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna, I don't care if it.

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:50.960
<v Speaker 4>Makes you uncomfortable, because like I'm hurting, you know. And

0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:52.919
<v Speaker 4>that's the thing that I see with a lot of women.

0:56:53.280 --> 0:56:57.520
<v Speaker 4>They will be in so much pain, but just keep

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<v Speaker 4>it in, keep it, let it build, let it and

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<v Speaker 4>then they snap. And I'm just not comfortable knowing that

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<v Speaker 4>that's a possibility that I can, you know, get myself

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<v Speaker 4>to a place like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna, I'm gonna address it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I want to inspire women to address your traumas,

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<v Speaker 4>address your abusers, call, call your mom out, call your

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<v Speaker 4>call whoever, call them out, and let it be known

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<v Speaker 4>and watch how you feel for your own healing.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what it takes. And I realized that with

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<v Speaker 3>let's talk, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like healing and therapy comes with communication, our words speaking

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<v Speaker 4>like we free ourselves.

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<v Speaker 3>We heal ourselves through.

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<v Speaker 4>Words because we're when we physically speak words out into existence,

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<v Speaker 4>you're able to look at them, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 4>come at it from different places instead of just holding

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<v Speaker 4>it in and it just being like this one dimensional

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<v Speaker 4>dimensional thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Inside of you.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's a lot of power and speak Like even

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<v Speaker 4>being here and us talking, it's like someone listening to

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<v Speaker 4>this is gonna be like whoa, Oh my god. I

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<v Speaker 4>felt that, but I didn't think about it that way.

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<v Speaker 4>And I am gonna hit this person up. And because

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<v Speaker 4>I've been wanting to, I just I've been afraid. And

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<v Speaker 4>you don't have to be afraid. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 4>be afraid because you're dealing with yourself at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the day, when you're laying in your bed with

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<v Speaker 4>all your thoughts, what's that person doing?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, what that person thinks of you isn't going

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<v Speaker 3>to heal you like heal yourself.

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<v Speaker 6>That's so true.

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<v Speaker 8>Our testimonies are powerful and they matter so true.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I am so I want to get you out

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<v Speaker 5>of here because you like turning out there like okay,

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<v Speaker 5>return to mama, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 6>But I just want to thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>So much for coming here and just like sharing your

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<v Speaker 5>energy with us and like even just being like yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll come whatever, and not knowing us from anywhere. I

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<v Speaker 5>appreciate and I really love, I love, I love what

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<v Speaker 5>you're doing. Your movements so important, so necessary. Don't stop.

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<v Speaker 5>I know it's hard, and I know you know it

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<v Speaker 5>can feel lonely out of here, you know, but you're

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<v Speaker 5>building something where you don't have to be alone. You're

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<v Speaker 5>building such a beautiful community so much, and we need it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>single mom is we need it the most? Are like

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<v Speaker 5>the most overlooked, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so it's like hurtful.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well we do the most bringing people into the

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<v Speaker 8>world and being overlooked.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, yeah, we're being overlooked and a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>times thrown away like what did you do?

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<v Speaker 6>Why are you single?

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<v Speaker 9>Right?

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<v Speaker 7>Is right?

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I feel the most powerful I've ever

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<v Speaker 5>felt as a single parent, more powerful than I did.

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<v Speaker 6>As a woman with a man and a baby.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, you know, my singleness has empowered me in ways

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<v Speaker 5>that I'm so grateful for.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm so grateful to that I'm single. I'm so glad

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not married. I'm so glad that she didn't work

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<v Speaker 6>out who were you married or was going to be?

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<v Speaker 5>I was planning my wedding and then it just all

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<v Speaker 5>my it was I thought the end of my life,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, but it was just the beginning.

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<v Speaker 8>It's so funny hearing both these stories. And look, look

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<v Speaker 8>what's birthed out of those dis then disappointments. Look at

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<v Speaker 8>the platforms, the communities that you've built out of those

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<v Speaker 8>those disappointments. And that's for any woman who's in a situation,

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<v Speaker 8>any mom right now who thinks it's the end of

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<v Speaker 8>the road and there's nowhere to go, and you're sad

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<v Speaker 8>and life's ended, and fuck, where's my picket fence?

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 8>You have when you tap into your power, you have

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<v Speaker 8>Literally these are testimonies. These are living people like you

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<v Speaker 8>have no idea what's out there for you. Disappointments are

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<v Speaker 8>the beginning of birthing big things.

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<v Speaker 3>They nourish you.

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<v Speaker 6>You have you have to face it, though, you do

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<v Speaker 6>have to face it.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what I've had to learn because I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 5>a I'm a good I'm good at suppressing.

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<v Speaker 6>Mm, pushing it down, pushing it.

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<v Speaker 3>As women, we are because that's what we do. We

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<v Speaker 3>move forward, We move forward. We don't talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>We have to, yeah, because if you I I can't

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<v Speaker 4>be falling apart, like you know, like who who's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>catch me?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? No one's here. I'm like alone, So I can't.

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<v Speaker 4>I literally physically cannot allow myself to not even victimize myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't allow myself to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be weak in certain moments like I have to dig

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<v Speaker 4>it up, even if it's the small smallest amount of strength.

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<v Speaker 4>I dig that shit up, and I have that fuel

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<v Speaker 4>me and push me into getting out of bed.

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<v Speaker 3>And doing what I have to do. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>sharing and tell us O let's match where they can

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<v Speaker 3>find you. My instagram is at Mela Murder, m e La,

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<v Speaker 3>m u R and d e er.

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<v Speaker 4>And if there's any single moms or moms out there

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<v Speaker 4>who are seeking community, you can email me directly at

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<v Speaker 4>Let's Talk moother at gmail dot com and I respond

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<v Speaker 4>to you directly. And we're just trying to expand the

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<v Speaker 4>movement of this gathering and you know, hopefully we can

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<v Speaker 4>be in the city near you and follow at Let's

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<v Speaker 4>Talk Yes, at Let's Talk Mother.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Hello on you guys can know where to

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<v Speaker 5>find us at Good Mom's underscore Bad Choices and our

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<v Speaker 5>website www dot Good Moms by choices dot com.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll see next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye bye, hud goos By High is coming down.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't fit me, Gujaboo does not even do.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I need a complication. The girl kids burning

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<v Speaker 3>oh wood today