Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles, well, James McDonald, Regi Jr.
Speaker 1: And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network material witness
Speaker 1: on an aggregated battery, I was a hang gun and
Speaker 1: um they believe this might be in retaliation to our testimony.
Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening wherever you may
Speaker 1: be listening from. This is another episode of the Gangster Chronicles.
Speaker 1: And you're listening to Alex Alonso from Street TV and
Speaker 1: I'm here at my two co hosts, James McDonald, and
Speaker 1: this is episode twenty nine. And if you're new to
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Speaker 1: also want to remind you that we'll be doing our
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, October twentye that's next week, Wednesday, October from
Speaker 1: seven to eleven. The show will be from seven to
Speaker 1: nine and then it'll be followed by the Q and
Speaker 1: A right after and it will be at the French
Speaker 1: Quarter Creo Bar and Grill at one six, seven to
Speaker 1: eight bell Flower Boulevard in the city of bell Flower.
Speaker 1: That's just southeast of the city of l A And
Speaker 1: that's on the corner of bell Flower Boulevard and Flower Street.
Speaker 1: And to get tickets, just visit the Gangster Chronicles podcast
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Speaker 1: page their links to that website to get tickets to
Speaker 1: our first live event. And it would also be the
Speaker 1: last time you will see Reggie right this year in
Speaker 1: so please come out and uh say say say your
Speaker 1: goodbye to Reggie Right for for I guess a few
Speaker 1: months or so. Um. You can find James on Facebook
Speaker 1: with the Red Harley as his profile, or you can
Speaker 1: hit him up on Instagram at b I G G
Speaker 1: J thirty six. He still has those shirts nine zero
Speaker 1: nine hundred zero four. To get those T shirts. You
Speaker 1: can find Reggie right on Bomb First. I guess this
Speaker 1: is gonna be his last. He's got probably one more
Speaker 1: Bomb First show left. That's on Tuesday nights at seven
Speaker 1: thirty pm. And he's on Facebook and Instagram at Reggie
Speaker 1: dot Right dot jr. And you can find me at
Speaker 1: Street Gangs dot com just click on the contact link
Speaker 1: or just go to at alex Alonzo one zero one
Speaker 1: on all social media platforms Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. All right,
Speaker 1: so before we start the show, Reggie Wright has a
Speaker 1: bone pick. What's what's going on? Reggie once again controlling
Speaker 1: on YouTube and that saw a dude that I guess
Speaker 1: because we had and he's not He's trying to blow
Speaker 1: up off of us. And I don't know why I'm
Speaker 1: giving them this attention, but I can't do it. I
Speaker 1: can't let niggas call us out because we've been out
Speaker 1: there too low. Me and James been out there too
Speaker 1: long and they deal with too many niggas. Will be
Speaker 1: letting bit chas niggas call us out. So so what
Speaker 1: did uh fosco one drom Ingo would say, well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let James play. I'm great playing for James so
Speaker 1: we can hear it again because you know, James don't
Speaker 1: be on this YouTube ship, so he don't be hearing ship.
Speaker 1: All right, look let's play this audio clip then cool.
Speaker 1: You know it's crazy. I was already on Gangster Chronicles, right,
Speaker 1: But me, I was on Gangster Chronicles when they first started.
Speaker 1: And when they first started, they were just podcasting. They
Speaker 1: wasn't doing no like videos on YouTube, and they didn't
Speaker 1: have no YouTube videos. It was just them podcasting and
Speaker 1: you had to tune in, said the podcast on the
Speaker 1: podcast ship that you had to like tune in. So
Speaker 1: that's when I did it. But I think, honestly, like, honestly,
Speaker 1: what kills me about the Gangster Chronicles? Blood? You know
Speaker 1: what killed this is the this is the thing about
Speaker 1: the Gangster Chronicle. I don't see the I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear about two snitches telling nigga about Gangster Chronicles. Blood.
Speaker 1: How is two snitches blood? Reggie right? Blood? You was
Speaker 1: the police. Blood? Like, how are you telling me who's
Speaker 1: snitching and talking about snitches? And you with the fucking police. Blood,
Speaker 1: Like you're the fucking police. But what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: You snitched on the nigga every time you lock the nigga.
Speaker 1: Fun you talking about blood. You snitched on plenty of
Speaker 1: nigg every time you took a nigga to jail, had
Speaker 1: to go to court, wrote a police report. You snitched
Speaker 1: on the nigga. So how the fund is an ex
Speaker 1: police talking about snitching? Now, Blood, That's what I'm saying. Blood.
Speaker 1: And then Mob James, Blood, you snitched about your brother.
Speaker 1: You snitched the niggle was wearing the wire whatever niggle
Speaker 1: was wearing the rod. But basically you want near snitching
Speaker 1: about Joe death for all days too. Blood, And it's
Speaker 1: like like god damn, but like both of you niggas
Speaker 1: got jackets, but talking about everybody else who got the
Speaker 1: jacket like like, don't get me wrong, Like the show
Speaker 1: is very interesting, it's interesting to hear this ship, but
Speaker 1: it's like Blood, we've been hearing about these tuopop stories
Speaker 1: for twenty something years now, damn near thirty years, but
Speaker 1: we're going on damn me or thirty years Tupocket big
Speaker 1: E been dead and all these stories. But I don't
Speaker 1: want to just hear this ship from two snitches. But
Speaker 1: where's everybody else? But where's all the outlaws and everybody else?
Speaker 1: Who got the inside scoops and the inside the counts?
Speaker 1: But why are just the two snitches are like? But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but like both you niggas got jackets.
Speaker 1: But this nigga was a police blood, this nigga was
Speaker 1: working with This nigga was the police, and this nigga
Speaker 1: was working with the police. I'm just saying, but serious, ship,
Speaker 1: Oh ship, that's not boo, that's not okay. That was
Speaker 1: Bosco talking about specifically you two guys. He didn't say
Speaker 1: anything about me, but he definitely had some things to
Speaker 1: say about Reggie and James. Yeah, that's funny coming from him,
Speaker 1: because before I let James respond, I got some more
Speaker 1: audio I want to play for him. Well before before
Speaker 1: you continue, he was a guest on this show before
Speaker 1: I became a regular, like a little and my question
Speaker 1: is what did he say to yall when she is
Speaker 1: right here? You know you had options, You didn't even
Speaker 1: have to come down there to this show. If that,
Speaker 1: if this is what you was thinking, then what type
Speaker 1: of cat is you to know? This ship right here
Speaker 1: or felt a certain kind of way, but didn't come
Speaker 1: down to shake mob. James jan my name is James anyway,
Speaker 1: my nigga, but it comes and shake my hand. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't embrace no niggas like that. I don't funk with clowns, man.
Speaker 1: And that's why I don't even get down like that
Speaker 1: no more. Because you got shade treas ninkers that coming
Speaker 1: here and then want to get down like that. I said,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't gonna even fly get mad, but to speak
Speaker 1: on my brother. Let me explain something to you, killer.
Speaker 1: I love my brothers, I love my sisters, I love
Speaker 1: my brother kids. I'm family and family orientated all through.
Speaker 1: If you don't understand that, then you really didn't. Wherever
Speaker 1: you got your your information from you you you're lacking it.
Speaker 1: I was a witness in my brother's case for my brother.
Speaker 1: My brother got found not guilty all charges. He was
Speaker 1: a character witness. I was the only witness besides my
Speaker 1: mama and my nephew was a witness. I'm the only
Speaker 1: one I got my brother out of jail. Dumbass. I
Speaker 1: just don't, dude, I don't even know you like that,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna speak on you, A gonna call
Speaker 1: you know names. You don't know me. I don't know you.
Speaker 1: When I met you, you were shaking my hand, called
Speaker 1: the O G called me yeah, and and and for that,
Speaker 1: and then to wake up and hear some ship like
Speaker 1: this motherfucker's calling me telling me you're talking like this, bro,
Speaker 1: do your thing. Man, I'm not I'm not no video gangster.
Speaker 1: I'm not no I pid all this other bullshit you
Speaker 1: do that you know, be at every Wednesday night, you nigga,
Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna be at next uh next
Speaker 1: Wednesday night. So I'll put you as a v I P.
Speaker 1: If you can get out, you know, because I know
Speaker 1: the eighteen Street niggers don't even let you out of
Speaker 1: the house. Because I've been talking to people. They say,
Speaker 1: you can't even you gotta get an escort to get
Speaker 1: out of your your your mama house. Nigga is still
Speaker 1: forty some years old living with his mama. That's some
Speaker 1: that's some gay ship. Up. I'm not with I don't
Speaker 1: funk about none of that's you do so anyway, um,
Speaker 1: but but play anyway, play this this part. We got
Speaker 1: another audio clip. We got another audio clip audio clip
Speaker 1: that Reggie brought in murder walking out your door, your
Speaker 1: neighbor get murdered in front of a twelve year old
Speaker 1: boy early on in his life, he witnessed the murder
Speaker 1: walking out your door, your neighbor get murdered in front
Speaker 1: of a twelve year old boy that was traumatizing. He
Speaker 1: had to go to court. He had to be a witness.
Speaker 1: Guess what. The system failed him because we didn't do
Speaker 1: the right things to get him the help that he needed.
Speaker 1: Early on in his life, he witnessed the murder, walking
Speaker 1: out your door, your neighbor get murdered in front of
Speaker 1: a twelve year old boy that was traumatizing. He had
Speaker 1: to go to court. He had to be a witness.
Speaker 1: Guess what. The system failed him because we didn't do
Speaker 1: the right things to get him the help that he needed. Okay,
Speaker 1: that sounds familiar. Did you get that from redg Anyway?
Speaker 1: That's from Street Games, uh, with Alex interviewing Bosco with
Speaker 1: his mama at his mama house, which he's saying is
Speaker 1: his house, but that is my my house. But anyway,
Speaker 1: my point to that this one does you're the only
Speaker 1: one that's in here that's been on the stand and
Speaker 1: testifying on motherfucker's But you call the nigga snitchers. Your
Speaker 1: mama just said you was on the stand and how
Speaker 1: to testify us the only official rat or snitch that
Speaker 1: was ever in that room that day, because nigga, you
Speaker 1: gotta under stand and testified. Not only did you do that,
Speaker 1: you dry snitch when Rose Molts seven hundred whooped your ass.
Speaker 1: You think people forgot about that. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of young kids don't remember that for Rosemo seven hundred
Speaker 1: whooped your ass. So you go and try to be
Speaker 1: on Instagram and and all that, like, you know, because
Speaker 1: rosemok him up there a month or two later, but
Speaker 1: he also had problems with Whack one hundred in the game.
Speaker 1: But everybody in l A know. I know you try
Speaker 1: to take credit for it, but everybody in l A no,
Speaker 1: it was in Mexican that that was a blood. He
Speaker 1: wasn't even the Mexican game. And that was a part
Speaker 1: route from I only want n HP. Fuck it, I'll
Speaker 1: say it, and I'm the police n HP that killed him.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that, yo. Bitch asked you know, you trying
Speaker 1: to make the food the little youngsters on the on
Speaker 1: a on a Instagram or the idea or whatever that
Speaker 1: you was the one that had something to do with it.
Speaker 1: No bitch ass nigga, you didn't have shipped to do
Speaker 1: with it. But what you did and what we know
Speaker 1: street niggas know and me because I would have been
Speaker 1: around all types of niggas I've been, I was thinking
Speaker 1: about it on the way here. I would have been
Speaker 1: affiliated with every nigga. Niggas always wanta try to say
Speaker 1: police police, I would have been affiliated with every nigga
Speaker 1: from Watts, either from death Row, the weed game or
Speaker 1: my police career and from Compton. But you can want
Speaker 1: to I can't think of a game that I ain't
Speaker 1: cool with that. No niggas from there. One of the
Speaker 1: only niggas they probably can say that in l A
Speaker 1: County that that's been cool with everybody. But my point
Speaker 1: to that was you was dry snatching when you're putting
Speaker 1: pictures of yourself in the hospital bed and all of
Speaker 1: that bullshit at the Rosebow seven and whooped your ass
Speaker 1: putting pictures up of yourself while you're in the hospital bed,
Speaker 1: all on the internet and ship that's snitch and drives
Speaker 1: because you're letting police know anything happened to me, those
Speaker 1: niggas is the one who did it. That's what you
Speaker 1: was doing. So Bosco, then we gave you a little
Speaker 1: five minute, a little thing because you that's all you.
Speaker 1: That's the only reason you spoke on it and needed
Speaker 1: the ship for to help you out. So I hope
Speaker 1: this help you, brother, But I know, I know, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, I don't. I don't, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: want it to help you. I want you to understand, dude,
Speaker 1: all that what y'all calling trolling, trilling, whatever the funk
Speaker 1: you're doing, man, whatever, cloud chasing or whatever. I ain't.
Speaker 1: I don't even know you from jack Ship. But the
Speaker 1: one day you come up here and all I knew
Speaker 1: is uh, Bosco. You shook my hand, We wooked, we talked,
Speaker 1: we interact, we changed conversations in this booth, and you
Speaker 1: was cool as funk. If you had a problem with me, man,
Speaker 1: I'm cool enough. Man, tell me you gotta beef with me.
Speaker 1: Tell me I unlocked my brother up in my face,
Speaker 1: then I can understand this bullshit you're doing. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't get down like that. I'm not gonna I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna respond to nothing else that you got going on,
Speaker 1: because it's it's bullshit. My brother is at home, alive
Speaker 1: and well, and I'm and I'm here alive and well,
Speaker 1: and I I'm glad my brother's at home. So if
Speaker 1: you did your homework, you to check Facebook. You you
Speaker 1: to talk to a nigg over there in the neighbor
Speaker 1: and they have told you that situation, what happened with
Speaker 1: my brother. I went to court for my brother, but you,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have to explain ship to you.
Speaker 1: But I love my family and I just hate when
Speaker 1: niggas attacked my family or me. So I don't give
Speaker 1: a funk what you're talking about. I don't give I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know you, dude. I don't know you, dude,
Speaker 1: and I wish I never met you. I I just
Speaker 1: hate niggas like this and and this cat ain't never
Speaker 1: never ever saw me that even be speaking on me,
Speaker 1: even speaking on ship about incomforting period. I don't, I don't, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying my best. I didn't understand why he
Speaker 1: said that. In the beginning, there was just a audio podcast,
Speaker 1: but now they got a video as if he was
Speaker 1: trying to make some point about the progression of this show.
Speaker 1: What did that matter? What do get? What gets chronicles?
Speaker 1: Oh they're doing good, but they will do woo anybody
Speaker 1: that I've there that listen to us, No, goddamn well,
Speaker 1: we don't talk about death Row or no Tupac daily
Speaker 1: on the on show. We ain't talking about old school ship.
Speaker 1: We're talking about what people want to know, their comments
Speaker 1: and my experience, and we mix it up. We mixed
Speaker 1: it up and we try to answer questions from the fans.
Speaker 1: No one ever heard me speak on anybody else or
Speaker 1: no snitching on no nigga that was with death Row,
Speaker 1: death Road. If I speak on what I knew and
Speaker 1: no other on death Row, that's my business. Mind your business.
Speaker 1: That nigga looked like Whoopi Goldberg and you know that's
Speaker 1: his new name. What was the most important thing he
Speaker 1: said in that whole little rant? The show is interesting though.
Speaker 1: The show is interesting. That's all that matters. Is interesting.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of somebody kind of this and
Speaker 1: y'all but at the same time complimenting him? Check it out.
Speaker 1: So the pictures will be posted on bomb first tomorrow
Speaker 1: of your ass getting your ass whooped of the beat down,
Speaker 1: the app efects and all that. He don't care about
Speaker 1: none of that. Don't know how much of a bit
Speaker 1: he is. They don't know that he's a bit as
Speaker 1: nigga out here in the streets of l A and Inglewood.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't be speaking on us like that. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's move to some of the man. That's so many
Speaker 1: hot topics in the news right now since the last
Speaker 1: show we did. But the first thing I want to
Speaker 1: talk about is a guy we talked about a couple
Speaker 1: of times on the show is Takashi six nine. They
Speaker 1: say he just signed a ten million dollar deal with
Speaker 1: his former record label and Reggie. My question to you is,
Speaker 1: if he's about to go do five years, six years,
Speaker 1: why would a record label even be interested in him.
Speaker 1: We ain't see no paperwork. We don't know that is true.
Speaker 1: We can ConTroll like that all day and put out something. Well,
Speaker 1: my story didn't even say that he get Tim me
Speaker 1: and that was se We think that's what you signed
Speaker 1: and you got Tim and deal. They said the deal
Speaker 1: is worth tim million dollars. That's it was to do
Speaker 1: two albums, and TIMZ reported and Tim's is pretty accurate,
Speaker 1: very rarely TMZ if somebody called him to tell him
Speaker 1: that's what it is. But his record label is not
Speaker 1: a big major label that could be signed to somebody
Speaker 1: that wasn't air stuff, that's not BMG, that's I don't
Speaker 1: know who. I never even had independent label. So they're
Speaker 1: gonna put out stuff like that for Peter R. Pope.
Speaker 1: He's not getting out on the A team, just like
Speaker 1: I told y'all about Jim Jones and the stuff on
Speaker 1: the internet about here. Now, trust me, man, I know
Speaker 1: this game. He's not getting out on the eighteenth. And
Speaker 1: that deal is not tim million dollars signing bonus. It's
Speaker 1: just a fucking what the deal could be worth. If
Speaker 1: it's not publicity stunt, if it's not pure well, it
Speaker 1: shows that there's still an interest in him regard regardless
Speaker 1: even though he's I told Joe it's gonna be an interest.
Speaker 1: He gonna half his fan is gonna still supporting, yeah,
Speaker 1: and half his fans is better than should still what
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the artists out there doing. Now. He
Speaker 1: has a following and it's mostly kids overseas, and they
Speaker 1: don't give a funk about no snitching and all of that, bullshot.
Speaker 1: Little white kids don't care about that. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I I believe he's definitely gonna come back in the
Speaker 1: game and and do music and make money. I didn't
Speaker 1: think it was gonna be this quick that reports and
Speaker 1: stories already about him inking the deal. When you hear
Speaker 1: a major behind him Interscope, m c A Universal people
Speaker 1: like that ares to BMG, then you kind of get concerned.
Speaker 1: The name of the record company is ten K Projects
Speaker 1: and it's a two album deal, supposed to do one
Speaker 1: album in English and a second album in Spanish. Mhm,
Speaker 1: God up. Well that they must know something too, because
Speaker 1: he must be getting out soon. Probably not on the eighteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody knows. Okay. Um, last week you teached us with
Speaker 1: the Harry Oh's judgment was vacated. But since then, this
Speaker 1: story has pretty much hit every single media outlet and
Speaker 1: it's become a bigger story. And um, I know you
Speaker 1: actually covered it on first and I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit more about that because what was interesting
Speaker 1: is is the judgment vacated because Lydia did not divulge
Speaker 1: that she had a bankruptcy When she and bankruptcy, that
Speaker 1: would make the illegal or fraud. All right, this is
Speaker 1: what people don't know being vacated. Whenever you go through bankruptcy,
Speaker 1: everything get discharged once your bank is over. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: the vacade is this deal is different. They're basically saying
Speaker 1: that it should have never They should have never won
Speaker 1: the case in the first place. You still lost all
Speaker 1: your assets, everything still was sold. You still have a
Speaker 1: file for chapter eleven or chapter seven. So so it's
Speaker 1: been gone. Let me ask you did did Sugar Night
Speaker 1: file bankruptcy solely based on this judgment from Harry. So
Speaker 1: let's just say this judgment never happened. Where would have
Speaker 1: death Row went at that time? Where would have went? Yeah,
Speaker 1: hopefully it would have been pained as Ira, which was
Speaker 1: his second biggest judgment that was out there. He owed
Speaker 1: the Franchise Tax Board instead of California and the i
Speaker 1: R S a bunch of money, but he would have
Speaker 1: been making payment plans to him. They might have put
Speaker 1: a lean on the catalog or something like that, but
Speaker 1: he would have probably still owned everything. Definitely. So this
Speaker 1: this judgment from Harry oh and Lydia Harris pretty much
Speaker 1: sunk Sugar and death Row. And now we're finding out
Speaker 1: from a judge, Oh, it should have never happened. The
Speaker 1: trustees knew that at the time. We was ting. I
Speaker 1: was helping you, I was working with at the time,
Speaker 1: I was telling them, hey filed bankrupts in nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 1: They followed, so, why does Lydia's bankruptcy Why is that
Speaker 1: such a big deal. I don't understand Alan at that time,
Speaker 1: when you have it, if you own something ninety four
Speaker 1: you have to declare everything you own when you file bankruptcy.
Speaker 1: She didn't say. They didn't say at that point they
Speaker 1: had any ownership or any interest in death row records.
Speaker 1: But then two thousand seven, two thousand six come along
Speaker 1: they said, oh, oh yeah, we had interests in an ownership.
Speaker 1: But everybody forget Harrrio had a whole fucking grand jury
Speaker 1: going on. He was meeting with the grand jury in nine,
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight. He had got moved from his his jail,
Speaker 1: and he was down working in the NBC calling people
Speaker 1: like Rick, James, Juel and all of them the court
Speaker 1: to testify. That's when they shot that Welcome to death
Speaker 1: Row bullshit uh DVD that came out ninety ninety nine.
Speaker 1: When they had all of those people working with them.
Speaker 1: But the whole get down is when people gonna get
Speaker 1: mad because y'all know, I go in and out with
Speaker 1: your night, but I just speak the real man. She'll
Speaker 1: night doing some snitching, y'all. Oh, he's doing some snitching
Speaker 1: because he's talking about going through the fucking FBI and
Speaker 1: trying to get Harroo locked up. And why why bring
Speaker 1: it up now he's trying to get Harrio locked up
Speaker 1: or stay locked up because everybody think Harryo's out, Harry
Speaker 1: on and out, Harry's still in custody. Why would be
Speaker 1: bringing up some ship like this that was discharge three
Speaker 1: or four years ago. It really was this charge. It's
Speaker 1: not gonna benefit him anyhow. Lydia ain't sitting on a
Speaker 1: hundred number one. Lydia never got her instil a million dollars.
Speaker 1: They ain't got a penny only but that million dollars
Speaker 1: that she gave him in two thousand and eight, So
Speaker 1: why isn't bringing up Why do you even care? If
Speaker 1: y'all know anything? Blast dot com is a website that
Speaker 1: she'll use us to get his voice out because his
Speaker 1: grown friend Toy has a relationship with blast dot com.
Speaker 1: Why is this coming up? Now, Harry, I was trying
Speaker 1: to get out this justin been gonna it doesn't benefit
Speaker 1: you anyway, ain't like lydy and they don't setting on
Speaker 1: any money. No one's involved in this, this bank ropcy
Speaker 1: and sitting on a hundred seven million dollars. No, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want harryo and jail if I don't want him
Speaker 1: to come home shoot doing time twenty years? Why talk
Speaker 1: about why talking about taking it to the FBIDA, How
Speaker 1: are you gonna be from it anyway? Exactly? So why
Speaker 1: would he do that? I mean, Harry, you're gonna get
Speaker 1: out of My point is why why is he talking
Speaker 1: like that? Or would he He's n that's what he's doing.
Speaker 1: He's a bitter man. I would be better too. This
Speaker 1: man cost him his company. And so the same time
Speaker 1: that Harry and then was showing wouldn't that or corrupt?
Speaker 1: Shooting shook too well. Everybody was trying to sue to
Speaker 1: say that the money. But I had did a buy
Speaker 1: out with Dass for I had brought all that I owned,
Speaker 1: that publishing rights. To be honest, it's a company out
Speaker 1: there called I looked it up, Simon says. Simon says,
Speaker 1: uh uh, Simon says, I forgot the name of my company.
Speaker 1: Simon says something, and Big Simon says, Big Simon's and
Speaker 1: Big Simon, I don't want those two. I did buyouts
Speaker 1: from everybody that was old money during that time. I
Speaker 1: brought all the rights and everything. I just ain't never
Speaker 1: went out to collect the money because because of the
Speaker 1: bank ruptcy, because I didn't want to be involved in
Speaker 1: the big rusty court and the bullshit. But Dass was
Speaker 1: paid out. I got paperwork, We got paperwork where we
Speaker 1: bought all his rights and gave him seventy fives to
Speaker 1: say bye. So but I wasn't working with you at
Speaker 1: the time when people started making all these different claims.
Speaker 1: But everybody that out there that knows everybody see the name,
Speaker 1: Big Simon says, and Simon says, music publishing. That's what
Speaker 1: the name was. So how did this this case get
Speaker 1: into a court in two thousand nine team for a
Speaker 1: team and be vacated in the first place they took it.
Speaker 1: They had their mind the mind Givings. I will see
Speaker 1: that name a lot. Mind Givings is an attorney that
Speaker 1: that calls this bankruptcy. That's who Lydia is. Claiming to
Speaker 1: be was her attorney at the time. Because he was
Speaker 1: he was playing both sides. They'll go and research the
Speaker 1: l A Times and all of that where the mind
Speaker 1: givings is the one that that came down there and
Speaker 1: talked to Chuck Phillips and and said, how hey, he
Speaker 1: forgot and he didn't go and file the paperwork once
Speaker 1: she gave him the million dollars to uh to signs
Speaker 1: to sign off on on the uh under staying to
Speaker 1: satisfy the judgment. He said, oh, he forgot to do it.
Speaker 1: But Harry heard about it. He read about it in
Speaker 1: the l A Times from this reporter named Chuck Phillips,
Speaker 1: and he immediately the next day he said, hey, Lidia
Speaker 1: committed fraud. She wasn't supposed to sign off on this,
Speaker 1: and I'm filing for divorce on her effective immunity, so
Speaker 1: she can't even negotiate my ow Yea'll gonna do your
Speaker 1: research and you're gonna find out. This is some interesting stuff,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean anything. What y'all think. Hyas Boro
Speaker 1: gonna give back the rights to death row. They don't
Speaker 1: give up. That's on the bankruptcy judge either already put
Speaker 1: it out and and and then and dismissed everything and
Speaker 1: went through it. If anybody has some culpability, it would
Speaker 1: be Lydia. And if Haroo signed off on it because
Speaker 1: they were married at the time in and he knew
Speaker 1: that she filed bankruptcy, then it may be some some
Speaker 1: problems there. But that's the only reason. What else, why
Speaker 1: why even if so, why be saying that you're gonna
Speaker 1: take this to the FBI. I'm just gonna sue it,
Speaker 1: sue you civilly, or I'm gonna try to sue the
Speaker 1: judge or the receivers or the attorneys and Bob because
Speaker 1: they knew this. Because if he has some record or
Speaker 1: some something where he wrote that and said, hey, I
Speaker 1: know that the Hairs filed bankruptcy and and you guys
Speaker 1: need to investigate that because that was an easy to investigate.
Speaker 1: If she brought that up in that was an easy investigation.
Speaker 1: But y'all keep looking at that word he's saying, I'm
Speaker 1: going to take this to the FBI. I didn't hear
Speaker 1: that part is that an article? Is that article? Well,
Speaker 1: it's it's confusing that it's coming up in two thousands nothing.
Speaker 1: People think it means something they're not. No one one
Speaker 1: nobody ever got a hundred seven million dollars. No one.
Speaker 1: The Harrison has only got that million dollars that he
Speaker 1: gave Lydia that I think his boy the mind givings
Speaker 1: who he met. He met. This is an attorney that
Speaker 1: he met in the fucking visiting room or the attorney
Speaker 1: room that does parole violation hearings when he was in
Speaker 1: there for parole violation. I always tell everybody, he's always
Speaker 1: trying to practice law. He finds a stupid attorney to
Speaker 1: letting practice law under his degree and the mind the mind,
Speaker 1: I did that, and that's what got him that hundred
Speaker 1: seven million dollar judgment. So, so Lydia got a million
Speaker 1: for supposedly signing off on the deal, signing off on
Speaker 1: canceling the lawsuit. Right right, the hundred seven million, that's
Speaker 1: not a very uh fair deal. Right, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: a million dollars even though I was selling. That's all
Speaker 1: I got. And I'm telling you, I'm gonna file bankerl See.
Speaker 1: If you don't do it, you better take something. So
Speaker 1: she got the million got did she break off her
Speaker 1: husband at the time? Michael Harris, Hey, Michael ain't no pump.
Speaker 1: Even he was in jail, he was no pump, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: But one thing he did though, he filed with the
Speaker 1: vorce on her as the next day because he's pissed
Speaker 1: and she took that million exactly. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna file bankruptcy, you canna end up getting nothing.
Speaker 1: When the nigga said in jail like telling want te
Speaker 1: in five, you know he probably was one to negotiate
Speaker 1: with him better because she has many trips up there
Speaker 1: to see here. You I have been with him, I
Speaker 1: hadn't been with David Kinner and him that you know,
Speaker 1: they go make trips to see her, you and talk
Speaker 1: to him. I'd still say that Harry only put a
Speaker 1: penny in the death row. If you never did that.
Speaker 1: Why what his shog interest in Harry You at the time, broker,
Speaker 1: I've been around and and the dealings that that some
Speaker 1: of Harry ohomies had with Shugar getting at him. He
Speaker 1: had some type of investment. But what was his reasons
Speaker 1: for getting this Shugar man? Because someone against you? It
Speaker 1: was the conductor. He want to introduce him to Pat Johnson.
Speaker 1: Should there no Pat? You didn't know p j. Pat
Speaker 1: and HARRYO were close. They had the same attornity, David Kinner.
Speaker 1: That's the ship the shot that you want who who
Speaker 1: won't let me ride? When he was running at that
Speaker 1: was Pat Johnson shot. Well he put it in his name.
Speaker 1: That was the shot before you took over that show?
Speaker 1: Or was it? Yes, Pat Johnson? What do you look like?
Speaker 1: He wasn't around? He was in prison? Okay, I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. Now a lot of shift to this. Okay,
Speaker 1: why y'all think this podcast, nigga, keep you D keeps
Speaker 1: saying we had the same bosses. Well, you ain't readcause
Speaker 1: Pat Johnson actually has an association with the crips. Keep
Speaker 1: this connected. Keep you D worked for Pat Johns. I
Speaker 1: think Pat Johnson maybe actually a south Side Compton cript,
Speaker 1: I mean the next south side. He's from a spooktown
Speaker 1: or occasions spookdown, whereas Harry Oh has an affiliation with
Speaker 1: the Bounty Hunters. But I don't think he's from Bounty Hunter.
Speaker 1: I heard he's from the low Bottom so t Carter.
Speaker 1: All of them had the same attorney that the same
Speaker 1: that was due named Roger Rosen and David Kinner. Well,
Speaker 1: I know, and I used to be a dolphins when
Speaker 1: you used to call when it's when we was child,
Speaker 1: not to answer that car phone. They um stop answering
Speaker 1: Harrio's call. When Yeah, when the guys was coming up
Speaker 1: to death Bro getting that ship personally, and it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, he was always in the loop. So I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe you got business. Maybe he's doing this. So niggas
Speaker 1: didn't trip on the Barney Hunters coming up there. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna say who's coming up there, but you know
Speaker 1: didn't trip. You know what I'm saying, Chill it, guy.
Speaker 1: I was there where the Bunny Hunters had David Krner
Speaker 1: walking him off the elevator, and it was about four
Speaker 1: of us fathers us walking getting on the elevator, and
Speaker 1: they left David Kinner on the elevator and then two
Speaker 1: niggas kept walking and just kept walking away, and David
Speaker 1: Kinder was like, oh, oh, thank you, thank you. Y'all
Speaker 1: just saved my life. Y'all just saved my life. They
Speaker 1: used to do me so bad. I used to ride
Speaker 1: up the Palm Deal prison with David Kinner and I
Speaker 1: used to why the funk I'm riding up with the
Speaker 1: fucking attorneys And this didn't know what they telling me.
Speaker 1: It's coming right up here with me because he don't
Speaker 1: know he had a cue that it was because they
Speaker 1: were scared that he was gonna send some niggas that
Speaker 1: maybe killing that because they knew he was coming from
Speaker 1: attorney visit did he used to tell you do you
Speaker 1: have your got came out a clue, So he was
Speaker 1: he was nervous. There's a lot of nervous times for
Speaker 1: David Canner. Then with everybody owned that bro, everybody was
Speaker 1: walking on their on their children. See, that's another great
Speaker 1: reason to interview David Canner. He's got some stories to tell.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the attorney client privileged stuff, but
Speaker 1: just the experience of being the attorney for this those
Speaker 1: a mafia attorneys. Motherfucker's ain't talking. They lose all they
Speaker 1: would give, They would never get another client. But he's
Speaker 1: he's near retiring. I'm sure he's still I'm sure he's
Speaker 1: got kids, so he saved his money. I'm sure he's
Speaker 1: got his retirement at some point. He don't want to
Speaker 1: tell a story never, he ain't stupid like us. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: what I find interesting about this is that the judgment
Speaker 1: was vacated. And this is the judgment that pretty much
Speaker 1: buried the company and without But it's only vacated because
Speaker 1: Lydia did not disclose the bankruptcy. Now what if you
Speaker 1: just put on there, yes, I do have a bankruptcy
Speaker 1: from you still assume no because now you you you
Speaker 1: supposed to put in all of your assets and the
Speaker 1: creditors in supposed to got that percentage of the money
Speaker 1: that that interested in that company of death Row. So
Speaker 1: that's what people get. She left when they when you
Speaker 1: own something, you know you they would have came out
Speaker 1: her percentage. Okay, your own then hey I gotta sell that.
Speaker 1: So but technically she didn't own any of death Throw right,
Speaker 1: we should Night contended that they never had any ownership,
Speaker 1: and they found a lawsuit in nineteen four nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 1: they paid them Interscope. That's why the Interscope thinking soon,
Speaker 1: they gave them three hundred thousand dollars for it to
Speaker 1: go away. In nineteen ninety six, shook as this didn't
Speaker 1: want to pay no attorneys and deal with it is
Speaker 1: the only reason he got that job. He pissed that
Speaker 1: judge also over that what that judge even said Mr
Speaker 1: Mr Knights, since you don't want to give up any
Speaker 1: paperwork or or do anything that the court is acting you,
Speaker 1: I'm giving you a hundred seven million dollars default judgment,
Speaker 1: which we're never gonna get collected in the first place.
Speaker 1: That's why they thought high hi hi. Judge was out
Speaker 1: like that to put you out, to put you in
Speaker 1: the bankruptcy. Well, he should have. He should have handled
Speaker 1: it by coming to court. He could have probably prevented that.
Speaker 1: You could probably prevented anything had to do and said, I,
Speaker 1: he had an attorney to write some paperwork. They're saying
Speaker 1: what Interscope said to get dismission that case in nineteen
Speaker 1: and two thousand seven. That was all he had to
Speaker 1: do was write the same thing, and said, I did that,
Speaker 1: And all they said was we paid, we settled this
Speaker 1: case in And where was David Kenner at during all
Speaker 1: these years. I was already gone, all right, because to
Speaker 1: a certain degree, should could have prevented this judgment from
Speaker 1: he was playing attorney. That's what I was trying to
Speaker 1: tell you. He was playing attorney himself. And he had
Speaker 1: stupid motherfucker's a chick named Sherry. Oh that that chick
Speaker 1: that your brother started sucking at Sherry Tearry something, Terry, Terry,
Speaker 1: Terry something. She's a crack part stupid as woman attorney.
Speaker 1: She started sucking Timmy Rue. That's how bad she. He
Speaker 1: put this way. I only know who ever knew this.
Speaker 1: I don't even know you. This is how bad this
Speaker 1: nigga was. This is how funked up nigga. No, Kimmy
Speaker 1: Rude living with this, this attorney loving this white bitch. Right,
Speaker 1: he had her coming up there doing attorney visits with
Speaker 1: his silly and they got car fucking then they got
Speaker 1: damn attorney room at mule a Mule Creek. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna say Jimmy was all in love with her because
Speaker 1: because she was paying. Yeah, exactly, Timmy, she was playing.
Speaker 1: Let me say that Timmy got sixteen seventeen kids allegedly, No,
Speaker 1: he got more than that. My pointed that the niggas
Speaker 1: a pimp, he's a quat film. He got nineteen children,
Speaker 1: and that that his one was known not to be
Speaker 1: through DNA, but the other ones are his. He has
Speaker 1: nineteen kids. I'd say you are the nineteen kids he got.
Speaker 1: E loving baby mamas. Did you get the white girl
Speaker 1: Terry pregnant. But but she was paying, and he would
Speaker 1: go over there and spend nice winter. He wouldn't live
Speaker 1: in with her, you know what I'm saying. But she was,
Speaker 1: she was giving him. But I can't think her left.
Speaker 1: They said, my life. But Terry and um when the
Speaker 1: mind give us two of the worst attorneys ever, she
Speaker 1: fully ship just like the mother Culpepper. What happened in
Speaker 1: their case, it's still pending. You talking about Matthew attorney
Speaker 1: Culled Pepper. Yeah, they gotta try, just like those two mothers.
Speaker 1: They're just stupid. Well, one of them was good, but
Speaker 1: one of them was Matthew Fleshers. My boy, he's a
Speaker 1: pretty good attorney, but he did get caught on audio
Speaker 1: saying things he shouldn't have been saying. I think some
Speaker 1: of it could be interpreted in a way that doesn't
Speaker 1: make him seem one of them was good. But um,
Speaker 1: so where did the Terry the lawyer, the white girl lawyer?
Speaker 1: Was she a lawyer for death row at that time?
Speaker 1: He After I left in two thousand two, I can't
Speaker 1: I did come back with two thousand two, he was
Speaker 1: David Kenner was gone. Jeff Lawrie, who's running a Disney
Speaker 1: business affair and now he was scraping the was a
Speaker 1: good business man, but I didn't want to spend the
Speaker 1: money on quality exactly, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: then at the end of the day him up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So he had Dermant and Terry as his lawyers. Big
Speaker 1: emotion from David Kenner and Don Ray and they didn't
Speaker 1: do the leg to prevent this hundred and seven million
Speaker 1: dollar judgment from happening. Easy. It was an easy fix.
Speaker 1: All they had to do was say, hey, we paid
Speaker 1: this off in I was actually shocked when he won
Speaker 1: the judgment because I'm like, damn, how does the dude
Speaker 1: from prison, just on his words say I started the company.
Speaker 1: And then when the judgment it wasn't even that. It
Speaker 1: was because the judge got so pissed because he wouldn't
Speaker 1: turn over anything by default he want. Yeah, he wouldn't
Speaker 1: turn over any he wouldn't respond to because Michael Harris
Speaker 1: has to prove that he started the Company's got to
Speaker 1: provide some sort of documentary. So the cool with you
Speaker 1: don't think he proved that it wanted it. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: didn't have videos of cass going from from one of
Speaker 1: his boy's hands to sugar you think keep DK in
Speaker 1: the court to testify that, Oh yeah, I took bags
Speaker 1: of cash to David Kenner. Are to a sugary y'all
Speaker 1: ever just thought anybody out there, how you ever really
Speaker 1: thought Sugar Knight is a human beings. This dude went
Speaker 1: from no money to a millionaire when he hits it
Speaker 1: from chocolate and uh when that wasn't no money though,
Speaker 1: that was Jump James money. That money was going in
Speaker 1: two days and Sugar and enjoy spending money. He went
Speaker 1: from from not having it, you're having it and and
Speaker 1: well it was just from the start, Big James, because
Speaker 1: people don't know care juggle yeah, I mean, and keep
Speaker 1: it going like that ninety three, ninety four, ninety five.
Speaker 1: He didn't have to do anything illegal that he didn't
Speaker 1: want to nothing because they were time one er and
Speaker 1: m c A and all that would cut him whatever check.
Speaker 1: He was in home run. He was. But that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now, everything is in your pocket, everything is
Speaker 1: in your hand. You don't have to do what we
Speaker 1: was doing at Furnhell Records. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: shooting in the buildings and and all this other other ship.
Speaker 1: So here you got a guy just got money that
Speaker 1: he can funk off. So now you started incorporating all
Speaker 1: the bad things that you don't need, meaning the homies, us,
Speaker 1: meaning certain females. He was working with that with no
Speaker 1: good uh, just typical chicks in one night, was getting
Speaker 1: or leaving about it there at the motel room or
Speaker 1: at the club with fifteen bucks. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He got him going to buy a drink, mother buck,
Speaker 1: come back sug loading. Now he's drinking and doing all
Speaker 1: this ship he didn't know, didn't give a fun tonight.
Speaker 1: Let's take that f FBI shoot out out there. Don't
Speaker 1: let people. Don't let people steer you down that road. Man.
Speaker 1: I know you mad, I know you're listening because I
Speaker 1: didn't got word that you'll be listening to the podcast. Homie,
Speaker 1: take that p I out. We don't get down like
Speaker 1: that dog. They say we do, but we don't take
Speaker 1: it out. What would he go to the FBI with?
Speaker 1: What does he got? Michael Harris case, Yeah, okay, committed
Speaker 1: from bankruptcy, froud bankruptcy, froude. If they did that, should
Speaker 1: have got money coming who they ain't got nothing, Michael
Speaker 1: Harrio and no, Lydy ain't got nothing. He probably got
Speaker 1: the million dollars that he gave. That money gone. That
Speaker 1: million dollars is gone in jail, and any money he
Speaker 1: has stashed away is cash. Yeah, what he's doing is
Speaker 1: providing an opportunity for the feds. The I R s
Speaker 1: the Feds to look into it if they care. But
Speaker 1: it's Michael Harris. So maybe they do, and maybe they're like,
Speaker 1: we don't are they look a look at how many
Speaker 1: social media has been on me. But that's a cold
Speaker 1: thing to be not You're in a position, you're in
Speaker 1: prison already to attack this man. This ain't no no
Speaker 1: sidewinder as catch you fucking with? So why would he
Speaker 1: risk his life to come into somebody like that behind bars.
Speaker 1: Let's make it clear. This is REGI chronicles area that
Speaker 1: don't that don't make no sense. I really don't see him.
Speaker 1: I mean everything you said, I hear you, because you
Speaker 1: know what you call that pat check whatever, check me
Speaker 1: on on a few things. And and a couple of
Speaker 1: people that hit me with information. It's important to get
Speaker 1: the information. Look up ship, learn what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I understand what you're talking about. And then you're a
Speaker 1: straight student. That's why the people want to know. But
Speaker 1: to be a part of this, I gotta I got
Speaker 1: to know what I'm talking about because you speak from
Speaker 1: the legman's point of view. I just tried to you know,
Speaker 1: I'm speaking from uh uneducated. Then go listen, listen, listen
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I ain't went, I ain't did no college.
Speaker 1: I ain't got uh alex credits, I ain't got you
Speaker 1: uh book And he ain't that that being there, did
Speaker 1: he finish college? Mark? Whether he did or didn't, I
Speaker 1: don't have them. I don't finished with big words. I
Speaker 1: don't come off like that. I just say what I
Speaker 1: have to say, so I'm understanding it. But then you
Speaker 1: say the f B I I don't see shugar being
Speaker 1: you don't made a lot of mistakes, trust me, we
Speaker 1: all have. We all have. I ain't just saying you so,
Speaker 1: if you're listening, we have made a lot of mistakes.
Speaker 1: And I like, but to do something like that, I
Speaker 1: thank you. I said this people. Then I said people
Speaker 1: to stop. I said, I said, your people on that
Speaker 1: and making it look like he's the one that's that's
Speaker 1: his people doing that. But wouldn't Lydia Harris be the
Speaker 1: one that gets more trouble since she was doing all
Speaker 1: the paperwork. She was the one that was free. Michael Harris,
Speaker 1: Harryo was in custody during this whole thing. You don't
Speaker 1: think he had a turney. You did it. You don't
Speaker 1: think it's a turney. More paperworking there for him to
Speaker 1: sign and stuff. You never had attorney visitor. You ain't
Speaker 1: know her. Niggas and jail have an attorney visit. Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 1: But to keep the man in jail, I mean, if
Speaker 1: all why you say, why keep that going to that man?
Speaker 1: Have been in jail a long time, So you gotta
Speaker 1: be a really fucked up person to want to see
Speaker 1: a motherfucker back in that same position that you're in
Speaker 1: right now today. All right, You know what, This actually
Speaker 1: seguation into one of the questions from one of our listeners.
Speaker 1: Uh So, what I'm gonna do is go to one
Speaker 1: of the questions and we'll come back to the news topic.
Speaker 1: But one of these questions is actually for both Reggie
Speaker 1: and James if if Sugar Night wanted to discuss things
Speaker 1: that went on in the past, And this comes from
Speaker 1: King's Heam on Apple podcast, would Reggie and James be
Speaker 1: willing to talk? Would you be able to control y'all tempers? Yeah?
Speaker 1: My my, I don't have the anger, no animosity that
Speaker 1: I had, which you um and I tried to prove
Speaker 1: that was sending him to two hundred and fifty bucks.
Speaker 1: My my anger over my brother, I don't have it
Speaker 1: no more. I had to let that go for me
Speaker 1: to heal and move on. So I'm thinking I've moved
Speaker 1: on from from all of that. BS. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. My brother has been going seventeen years, seventeen years,
Speaker 1: so I don't have no reason to fight no more,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So if she wanted to
Speaker 1: talk to me, and I've told several people this when
Speaker 1: I when I sent the money to to Rick, he
Speaker 1: ain't got to say thank you, he ain't got to
Speaker 1: say shit. Uh funk that, nigga. But I take the money.
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that. I'm cool with that. I did
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do and I'm done. But if
Speaker 1: she wanted to sit down and so James, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'll sit all day and talk to
Speaker 1: ship and in particular that you would want to bring
Speaker 1: up in a conversation, I wouldn't want to know, And
Speaker 1: the only thing I would want to talk about is
Speaker 1: the questions I have about Alson. I still have unanswered
Speaker 1: questions about that, and a lot of them. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And you know why you didn't do
Speaker 1: this when you know you was you know, right there,
Speaker 1: you know, crying with my mother. You know my mother
Speaker 1: was was hurt behind half of the things that didn't
Speaker 1: happen that he said he was gonna do and nobody
Speaker 1: had to to do anything, and and she believed in him.
Speaker 1: Me and her fault over it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: My mama didn't put me out of her house so
Speaker 1: many times mentioned and she would. She loved and she
Speaker 1: loved him like a mug because should helped her sons.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And that's all she's seen.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. She'll have been over there
Speaker 1: numerous times and hey, Miles here, who whoo, who whoo whoo.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, No questions that she walked away, Mama,
Speaker 1: how much you get you well yet out my dad
Speaker 1: business and who I know that side of shilled. But
Speaker 1: then the other side of shilled. So yeah, I got
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of questions. Why you didn't do the
Speaker 1: funeral like you said you was gonna do the funeral.
Speaker 1: Why you didn't do this like you said this? My
Speaker 1: mom had been waiting for you for three days. This
Speaker 1: didn't happen. And I think James didn't know money wasn't
Speaker 1: like that then, I I didn't have to know that.
Speaker 1: Don't promise nothing, but he was trying to make He
Speaker 1: went to Johnny Cocker. I think I told you this
Speaker 1: on uh in private or maybe at first. Johnny Conchring
Speaker 1: is the one to get him out. All of two
Speaker 1: whatever money that he put up for the funeral, to
Speaker 1: help out with the funeral, it came from Johnny Conchering
Speaker 1: waiting for him to get give him that check. Okay,
Speaker 1: and and and this is one of the things that
Speaker 1: I said, like like some of the homies, I was
Speaker 1: mad at I feel bad because I'm mad now that
Speaker 1: that this and that didn't happen. You know, there was
Speaker 1: the firework that none of this happened. So my anger
Speaker 1: is towards everybody. Let me back away from these guys.
Speaker 1: To me, I'm done. So first was the first time
Speaker 1: I actually realized when Sarrita was on. I do know
Speaker 1: Sugar is a big kid. I do know. Sheuld like
Speaker 1: to have ship his way. Should like to be in front.
Speaker 1: If you got thirty niggers, she gotta be in front.
Speaker 1: That's why we had the little riders. That's why he
Speaker 1: had two portions in the business, and then the Lambs
Speaker 1: and all of that ship the Roses, and every time
Speaker 1: we pulled up, damn, we're looking like clouds. And you
Speaker 1: got one Rose Royce here, and and you know so.
Speaker 1: But but she is a big kid, and she was
Speaker 1: like this ship his way. She would like to do
Speaker 1: things just a little jealous heart out relationship with you.
Speaker 1: Never had me and should personally one on one and
Speaker 1: never had a bad word towards each other. Now I
Speaker 1: don't heard things, and that's what he's always getting mad
Speaker 1: at me. But I was close with all his bitches
Speaker 1: because I took care of them while with the jail,
Speaker 1: I was pretty much him. I was doing everything for them.
Speaker 1: But you know, and so you say, no, I know
Speaker 1: I know that history were not ever touched a woman
Speaker 1: this sick and they've never been with that way. But anyway, um,
Speaker 1: I me and him. He never had a bad word
Speaker 1: towards each other ever. And um, but everything that I
Speaker 1: did and even now reacting is from hearing second or
Speaker 1: third handed, is why, and that's why I go in
Speaker 1: and out with him. That he says things about you,
Speaker 1: and you've heard some negative things that he saw. The
Speaker 1: worst thing guy ever heard him say about me is
Speaker 1: you know once again, think you don't attack my family
Speaker 1: that that out and McDonald was not my brother, that
Speaker 1: was my cousin. Where would you get that from well,
Speaker 1: not even a shoe night would even say that. Where
Speaker 1: where would he get this from? This my blood brother?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? We got the same motherfucking mom.
Speaker 1: He publicly said that somewhere it came to me. He
Speaker 1: never like that. You hear it all set in a
Speaker 1: third hand from me. Everything is second hand. You believe
Speaker 1: it because it becomes from people. That's that's close to what.
Speaker 1: You don't know if it came from the person that
Speaker 1: actually heard it. Though I heard a lot of ship,
Speaker 1: but I don't say ship. So I just had and
Speaker 1: have still have a lot of ship bottled up and
Speaker 1: shot at me. If me and sugar and choked, I
Speaker 1: would love it if I was, sugar, and I was
Speaker 1: gonna talk to you. I bring up that whole kidnapping
Speaker 1: situation that apparently and he was behind he kind of
Speaker 1: people got to trust it behind. It was a a
Speaker 1: laughing place. It was just a said. But the fact
Speaker 1: that it was mentioned, and I'm sug I'm saying to myself,
Speaker 1: is that the way they think? And I was shipped
Speaker 1: right here in your faith, sugar night and tell you, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have you had me mad, You had me feeling
Speaker 1: a certain kind of way fund it and and and
Speaker 1: I have toolked suged this. You got me fucked up.
Speaker 1: But James wasn't the one. Let me just say that,
Speaker 1: James wasn't the one that cut the bee for it
Speaker 1: the heat for through somebody else that was pushing it.
Speaker 1: That rock Chisholm said verified and told yeah, well Red
Speaker 1: just telling us or telling you it's true, because they
Speaker 1: told me to step back. I'm too close m hm.
Speaker 1: And that one James, James didn't come up. I didn't
Speaker 1: take it to nobody. It was a conversation. You take
Speaker 1: one motherfucker to walk away from that conversation and say,
Speaker 1: oh mom, James said, who the whoo? WHOA now? Somebody
Speaker 1: else is on that same thought. Let me get this
Speaker 1: thing before he do. They ran with it, and they
Speaker 1: ran with it, and I bullshit with it. Shook many
Speaker 1: many times. Then we'd have had calls with James and
Speaker 1: called up there and cuse because the office staff out
Speaker 1: telling me coming up there to do this and do that.
Speaker 1: And they will always say, Reggie, you gotta be careful
Speaker 1: because in that room you were just shooting the ship
Speaker 1: like like well, I used to drink. I mean back then,
Speaker 1: when the sun go down, it's on the cracket, um
Speaker 1: little faded minion. Times I didn't. I didn't went up
Speaker 1: to death Row on one and and it got to
Speaker 1: a point where, man, we gotta bag up from me.
Speaker 1: We gotta a bunch of talk to talk to mom
Speaker 1: one day. Let me ride out draulics. Man, Come on, man,
Speaker 1: we gotta shut down. We gotta do something something to
Speaker 1: crack nigga. Y'all better gone where y'all going? This is
Speaker 1: my shop. The only way they can get me to
Speaker 1: walk out of there is to bring my mama to
Speaker 1: the shop and come on, Jais, let's just go and
Speaker 1: we would come back. Hold on my mom's sitting there drinking.
Speaker 1: I got a bitch, I'm whoo woo, let go do
Speaker 1: woo woo. So but I left because my mama was God,
Speaker 1: I don't need just going crazy ship, So I bounced
Speaker 1: next morning. However, you feel they didn't, she'll get one
Speaker 1: addressed the situation, talk about it. So I took manage
Speaker 1: into my own hand. We did different ship, but that
Speaker 1: was a long time ago. Man. You know one thing
Speaker 1: I say, if if we can go back and do
Speaker 1: this ship over, I think I would have been a
Speaker 1: little harder on ship, like more confrontational, like up closing
Speaker 1: personal the ship that we don't need, the ship that
Speaker 1: we really do. But other than that, yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: we we give Sugar bad rap and he even get
Speaker 1: a bad rap about not paying artists and cheating artists
Speaker 1: and stuff. Man should really was a good dude. He
Speaker 1: just played niggas again. The only problem he played niggas
Speaker 1: against each other and play people against each other. But
Speaker 1: other than that, if you catch him and get him
Speaker 1: at the right time, in the right place, and y'all
Speaker 1: would love that nigga. So what a conversation with would
Speaker 1: be like for you Reggie today if that sit down
Speaker 1: was possible, Man, what you've been saying that bull shoot
Speaker 1: about me, nigga. Why you say about me nig You
Speaker 1: know you always believe in a little motherfuckers and believe
Speaker 1: in other you know. We was like this and like that,
Speaker 1: and they go like that, but let's go get some money.
Speaker 1: That all we will always say, come on, let's get
Speaker 1: this money. We just I mean before I got arrested.
Speaker 1: I got arrested two thousand seventeen, when Ship was in jail,
Speaker 1: me and him and his girl toy was on the phone.
Speaker 1: Then it every day trying to make good ways to
Speaker 1: make money people. I got arrested and it was like oh,
Speaker 1: and he kind of backed away and I heard a
Speaker 1: comment that was made and I got mad and I
Speaker 1: started talking Ship. Well, I mean, it makes sense that
Speaker 1: you got indicted by the fence and he's fighting a statecase.
Speaker 1: He probably like, oh, Reggie's toxic right now, right, and
Speaker 1: you take offense to that now, didn't take defense to
Speaker 1: that part. I didn't say that. I'm just asking. I'm
Speaker 1: saying the laughing part. And you know a little things
Speaker 1: that will say that after that. But it's a well
Speaker 1: I sho annoyed. Che You don't say a lot of
Speaker 1: ship about a lot of after everything, you know, the
Speaker 1: smoke clear. We we we talked once and twice and
Speaker 1: I talked to these people we in the process of
Speaker 1: the win a deal together on a on a TV show.
Speaker 1: Why the hell you just say that that because I
Speaker 1: ain't gotta deal with him, I'm dealing with the white folks.
Speaker 1: I gotta deal with Well, that was a great question
Speaker 1: from King him on an Apple podcast. But let's move
Speaker 1: back to some of the news topics. Um Joshua Brown Murder.
Speaker 1: That conversation has been heating up this last week. A
Speaker 1: lot of people are still I've listened to to legitimate
Speaker 1: I would say legitimate shows because one of them is
Speaker 1: hosted buy an attorney, and they still believe this conversation
Speaker 1: is still out of the attorney goddamn. And I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about his attorney. I'm talking about some shows that
Speaker 1: have attorneys as the host. They still believe that there's
Speaker 1: a conspiracy, that there's something going on and the Dallas
Speaker 1: Police Department and giving us and I felt that way
Speaker 1: on our last podcast. Now, I am gonna say, Reggie
Speaker 1: sent me something and I watched it. Now Real Street Real,
Speaker 1: Real Street Ship. If this guy which on that video
Speaker 1: you show me, I see a cat in his in
Speaker 1: his kitchen smoking weed. You just sent me a video
Speaker 1: of ninety million black boys at home, you know smoking that.
Speaker 1: Don't make me a killer. Y'alla y'ada or whatever. He
Speaker 1: had a history before anybody even met him, before he
Speaker 1: even got on that stand. He would, you know, living
Speaker 1: the thug like whatever, getting his money? How you get
Speaker 1: his money to pay his bills? How many how many
Speaker 1: cats out here living like that? There's so many of
Speaker 1: the Joshua Browns out here today? But why would they killers? Dude?
Speaker 1: If he don't testified already, she didn't got her ten years?
Speaker 1: Why kill him now? Well, Reggie brought up the civil case.
Speaker 1: That's that's pending um and case they can use. They
Speaker 1: can use this just so he doesn't matter. Police said,
Speaker 1: they goddamn stupid. And that's why I say that. Then
Speaker 1: you have and I said, these other three cats that
Speaker 1: he read into, we gotta hear what's going on with them.
Speaker 1: Can we just fact check the Joshua Brown in because
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if we had it correct last week?
Speaker 1: But Joshua Brown got into an argument with Daddius Green
Speaker 1: that escalated into a physical altercation. They say Brown pulled
Speaker 1: his trap out first fired on the Aquarius Mitchell. The
Speaker 1: one was in the passenger back seat, Yeah, not the
Speaker 1: one he was arguing. He's arguing with Daddius. He shoots
Speaker 1: the Aquarius Mitchell, but then um Thaddeus Green returns fire
Speaker 1: and shoots Brown Ice and kills him. They all flee,
Speaker 1: except for Jaquarius Mitchell because he's injured. They drop him
Speaker 1: off at the hospital. The two flee, but the first
Speaker 1: one arrested is um Is Michael um Michael Mitchell. The
Speaker 1: third well, they both fled and then Michael Mitchell was
Speaker 1: arrested in Louisiana on October eight, and as of this week,
Speaker 1: daddy Is Green has still not been arrested. He's still running,
Speaker 1: still on the run. He still running. Take this whole
Speaker 1: situation and dramatize the picture and in your head this
Speaker 1: ship happens every day. Drug deals going back, and you
Speaker 1: can get killed over weed, and you can get killed
Speaker 1: over a pounded less than a pounded. It ain't got
Speaker 1: to spend the money. And I got the product. Well,
Speaker 1: one of the conspiracy theorists I heard said, no, nobody
Speaker 1: gets killed over weed. It's legal. Why would you get
Speaker 1: killed over weed. But they're thinking, they're thinking they're buying out.
Speaker 1: They're not figuring these the pounds we're talking about. This
Speaker 1: dude was selling pounds. He wasn't selling. But we don't
Speaker 1: even know if this is about. It could have just
Speaker 1: been about something completely different that caused this whole altercation.
Speaker 1: While he's gonna have a pound on him in his
Speaker 1: backpack though he came down with a pound. Let me
Speaker 1: add something else to what happened. They took the backpack
Speaker 1: with his gun, with Joshua Brown's gun, and I guess
Speaker 1: the pound of weed. So when the police came, there's
Speaker 1: no gun there on on Joshua Brown. They got it.
Speaker 1: They got it, but they know one of their boys
Speaker 1: shot with a different guy at the hospital. They got
Speaker 1: him critical condition, so they gotta do some ballistic checking
Speaker 1: and make sure who shot who, Who had what gun?
Speaker 1: What gun did Joshua have? So I guess the one
Speaker 1: of the guy that's in the hospital got shot with
Speaker 1: Joshua's gun. That that we don't know if it's been recovered.
Speaker 1: Like you always asked, who's telling the story, because somebody
Speaker 1: gotta be telling the story. It got to be the
Speaker 1: guy that's that's uh in the hospital in the hospital
Speaker 1: well by, well by now he's probably not in critical
Speaker 1: because it's been true. That's true. And then and then
Speaker 1: for the begining, the guy in the arrest of them
Speaker 1: cause they got us us Marshall's arresting them. Who's telling
Speaker 1: the story has to be Michael Mitchell, the the uncle
Speaker 1: that's thirty two that was arrested on October. But they
Speaker 1: already knew the story. They knew the story before they
Speaker 1: even who's telling the story. Maybe they have this all
Speaker 1: on camera and they haven't released the footage yet. How
Speaker 1: would they know names? Yeah, that's where I get crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who who put this out there like that? And also,
Speaker 1: this did not happen in the same building that Amber
Speaker 1: Geiger killed. Um Botham John and Joshua Davis actually moved
Speaker 1: out of that building, So this happened in a whole
Speaker 1: another building. So this actually undermines a lot of other
Speaker 1: conspiracy theorists because they say, how could this guy be
Speaker 1: selling weed in a building that the police live in.
Speaker 1: You know, he got out of it, Yeah, he got
Speaker 1: out of here, was like, so he he moved in
Speaker 1: to the Terror apartments, which is five miles from the
Speaker 1: original complex where Botham John got killed. So for everyone
Speaker 1: who's a conspiracy theorist, he did not get killed in
Speaker 1: the building where the police officer was living, in a
Speaker 1: whole another building which I didn't know. So I still
Speaker 1: have a lot of unanswered questions. Though I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a conspiracy that the Dallas Police Department killed him,
Speaker 1: but it is a little fishy, it is a little shady.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well the I was listen to an
Speaker 1: interview today with the attorney for um the Sean's what's
Speaker 1: what's his name, Bostam John and Joshua Brown. They had
Speaker 1: the same attorney of the civil attorney Mills. I believe
Speaker 1: his name is and And And he even pretty much
Speaker 1: don't want to say, you know, of course he you know,
Speaker 1: of course he's not. He's got cater to this base
Speaker 1: exactly that and and and he's doing Dallas Police Department,
Speaker 1: and so he still got to make them look, you know, bad.
Speaker 1: But he's right not saying that. He's saying, hey, let's
Speaker 1: wait for judge. You're talking about s Lee Merritt. The attorney.
Speaker 1: He's asking everybody, let's wait now. He don't like that
Speaker 1: Dallas uh PD is investigating it. He wished that another
Speaker 1: agency he's calling for actually the SHAFF or the Texas Rangers. Right, No,
Speaker 1: he said, no, not even now, he said, because their
Speaker 1: credibility will shot for something dealing with Oh, because you
Speaker 1: know that the ranger that came the court and justified
Speaker 1: everything that the lady did, So he don't like Texas Rangers.
Speaker 1: It was a black Texas Ranger that came to testify
Speaker 1: a matter of fact that even the judge said, oh, no,
Speaker 1: you ain't getting understand saying that. Ship No, but she's
Speaker 1: pretty much saying you ain't getting understand saying that because
Speaker 1: he was pretty much justifying everything her actions. And so anyway,
Speaker 1: he don't like the Texas Rangers. But he was saying
Speaker 1: that the sheriff because he's an elected official and we
Speaker 1: can hold him accountable if his department don't do the
Speaker 1: right thing. I think last week you said this could
Speaker 1: be a possible self defense for the three dudes from Louisiana,
Speaker 1: and in Texas, um they respect self defense cases more
Speaker 1: than in other states. And if the narrative killed, it
Speaker 1: is the murder felony rule. I don't know if that
Speaker 1: plays like it does in California. Yeah, well, but the
Speaker 1: way the Dallas tells a story, Joshua Davis pulled his
Speaker 1: gun out first, the process of committing a felony, Well,
Speaker 1: we don't well do we We don't know that. Well,
Speaker 1: I guess you got a pound of from marijuana. Then
Speaker 1: you got what twelve pounds upstairs? Oh you can justify now, Okay.
Speaker 1: They was coming to maam and then went bad um
Speaker 1: and And it's crazy out there with that type of
Speaker 1: ship because I just went to Philadelphia, took my mom's
Speaker 1: down there to bury one of Timmy's sons. Brother was
Speaker 1: killed selling. We guys came three of them. He banged
Speaker 1: with him, they killed him, They the weed, they bound
Speaker 1: stay in prison. I guess one of them would just
Speaker 1: found convicted of murder. So I don't know what they're
Speaker 1: doing the other two yet, But I mean, this ship happens.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta cash out there trying to buy
Speaker 1: drugs and do ship to come up take from the
Speaker 1: next man. I'm the better man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it ship don't work out that way all the time,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So what's the likelihood that
Speaker 1: these three guys from Louisiana didn't appreciate him testifying regardless
Speaker 1: of it was a police officer. No, they didn't. They
Speaker 1: I wouldn't drive away out there to go, oh, you're
Speaker 1: testifying against the police. I was just now they could.
Speaker 1: I would like to know their history. That's why always
Speaker 1: say the phone records to tell it, because you know,
Speaker 1: you know, to see how long they've been dealing with
Speaker 1: each other. I would like to know that, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I had dudes when I was doing that part of
Speaker 1: the business that my first one or two interactions with
Speaker 1: them would be in public places or you know, it
Speaker 1: would have been a different interaction than somebody that I
Speaker 1: dealt with. Some of these people are thirsty. You you
Speaker 1: uh you. I used to call myself a rolling Brinks truck.
Speaker 1: You have six eight pounds, that's this your your ship
Speaker 1: at your prices three thousand dollars a pound, but by
Speaker 1: time they break it down ten dollars a ground four
Speaker 1: four hundred forty eight of them times ten. I actually
Speaker 1: had a good friend that was killed in two thousand
Speaker 1: eleven over maybe four or five pounds of weed um
Speaker 1: right here in Los Angeles. A lot of friends that
Speaker 1: got robbed. That's the history of time, man, history of times.
Speaker 1: They started out with taking shoes, boots and leather jackets.
Speaker 1: Now you got drugs in and play. Everybody wants the drugs.
Speaker 1: Everybody doing the drugs show. That's the best thing to
Speaker 1: be in right now, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: like I was saying, so what a way was doing
Speaker 1: this thing? That's the way he was living. That's everybody
Speaker 1: that man, you see. It should't nullify his his testimony
Speaker 1: against Amber Geiger, even though I'm sure she's gonna try
Speaker 1: to to use the situation and her benefit on an
Speaker 1: appeal or something. You know what, she's happy as a
Speaker 1: woman in the world. Yeah, happy is one. And guess
Speaker 1: what else he is going at about the sport work
Speaker 1: Texas ship because we don't stop talking about her now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because not right now, We're about to start talking about
Speaker 1: Officer Aaron Dean, who was charged with the murder of
Speaker 1: this beautiful woman, a Tatiana Jefferson, who was just babysitting
Speaker 1: her nephew in her own home and got gunned down
Speaker 1: almost identically the way Bothan John got gunned down. All right,
Speaker 1: let me let me defend. But the officers were actually
Speaker 1: on duty. These are on duty officers. The tactics of
Speaker 1: why they went the way they did. What I mean
Speaker 1: by that lights on in the house two am, two
Speaker 1: a m. In the morning, which I know we on
Speaker 1: the West Coast a little different than people on these coasts.
Speaker 1: They stay up a little later. Okay, so yeah, so
Speaker 1: and door open. I might have creeped them, been walking
Speaker 1: around the house too. That's all I'm gonna depend on
Speaker 1: air other than that, this is a scary ass. What
Speaker 1: you always say about police officers. The motherfucker they probably
Speaker 1: was getting beat up in high school, in school that
Speaker 1: had no business being a police officer. But it's it's
Speaker 1: being not just scared, but it's scared of black people.
Speaker 1: He's scary. People are scared of black people in your
Speaker 1: own home, mind and your own business. A woman they ain't.
Speaker 1: He was just a scary ass motherfucker and was scared
Speaker 1: the same thing, except she was off duty. This officer
Speaker 1: was on duty. Yeah. You know, I still used the
Speaker 1: word mistake, you know, mistaken. No, no, no, no no
Speaker 1: with the first one. The first one. Just motherfucker's as
Speaker 1: most scary as motherucker in America to me for shooting
Speaker 1: them scary, Why why he couldn't have have that mindset
Speaker 1: that Man, when I get my chance to kill the nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill it. Hey, why didn't have that mindset?
Speaker 1: As as they You got police, I don't want to believe.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. You got law enforcements. I've been
Speaker 1: on this. Motherfucker's so deep. Just lost his job because
Speaker 1: they found KKK papers in his house. You got police
Speaker 1: officers I'm talking about. Go just go on my post.
Speaker 1: Just beating people just I mean, I mean, they do
Speaker 1: what they want to do because they think they can
Speaker 1: get away with it. Nine times out of ten they
Speaker 1: does how many? How many officers in the last let's say,
Speaker 1: last four years has been convicted of murder? Very few?
Speaker 1: Not more than what it used to be happening. Would
Speaker 1: you say that, Yeah, but it's still such a low number.
Speaker 1: You gotta motherfucker. Motherfucker gotta his own show podcast talking
Speaker 1: about niggas. Man, I'm telling you, and and and the
Speaker 1: coldest thing about this ship there to me is they
Speaker 1: showing us how they feel about us, and we ain't
Speaker 1: waking up to it, and we still letting them do it.
Speaker 1: And that's why I say everybody that's watching this ship,
Speaker 1: everybody that's looking at this ship. And and and this
Speaker 1: was this judge here was on his head, was on
Speaker 1: his head. But we got people that's working for us
Speaker 1: that are against us. The eyes are against us more
Speaker 1: than once, more than twice. And and it's ridiculous. How
Speaker 1: look how they just beat this dude, seventeen year old kid.
Speaker 1: Then you got one where the police go to the
Speaker 1: school and I'm talking about just bam fire on a kid.
Speaker 1: Then you got a white boy would have would have
Speaker 1: goddamn stick in his hand trying to hit the police,
Speaker 1: trying to do it. They have to pull out their gun.
Speaker 1: They got sticks out. I mentioned that on a previous episode.
Speaker 1: How many times have we seen white folks acting crazy
Speaker 1: in front of the police and they don't do anything
Speaker 1: to them exactly, you know. So I'm I'm I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: let me just say this point out, this one point
Speaker 1: that I don't like in the recent shoot the shootings,
Speaker 1: and even if it was a kid Jason Jas, but
Speaker 1: it's the last three shootings really because with Mike Brown
Speaker 1: and all of them, they were people that will say, okay,
Speaker 1: they he just robbed the liquor store, cigarettes and the
Speaker 1: other one selling cigarettes and fighting and resisted and all
Speaker 1: of that that I think I defended. But the last
Speaker 1: two people, um, they were good people. They were the
Speaker 1: type of people that we're supposed to be, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. This lady graduated from Xavier College biology major.
Speaker 1: Um at home babysitting her nephew and her and taking
Speaker 1: care of her sig mom. Just starting to be bad
Speaker 1: now that we are taking the bad people. Yeah, that's good,
Speaker 1: Deputy al Dama. He's the one that killed the guy
Speaker 1: from uh Cedar Block Piru. Yeah, and they just want
Speaker 1: a judgment. By the way, I actually mentioned that gave
Speaker 1: me about three three episodes ago. I had mentioned that
Speaker 1: the family just wanted judgment. And the shooting that he
Speaker 1: was responsible for, shot and unarmed god brother and uh
Speaker 1: he said he had a gun, but once they got
Speaker 1: to his body there was no weapon. But the way
Speaker 1: he talked, I understand you have any ill will towards
Speaker 1: black people. He couldn't even answer that ship and then
Speaker 1: he said yes, finally said yes he does. He shouldn't
Speaker 1: be a police officer. He just don't like black people.
Speaker 1: I mean you can yeah, But when they took up
Speaker 1: that what James is talking about is a videotape deposition
Speaker 1: that the attorneys for the family had with the police
Speaker 1: that killed him. They had they had a break during
Speaker 1: the deposition and he came back and said that he
Speaker 1: didn't understand the questions, but he did say he had
Speaker 1: ill will towards black people. But then he cleaned it up.
Speaker 1: Top of that, he got the CPT tat on his body,
Speaker 1: which other members of the come to police department hash
Speaker 1: so they are clear from com shared my bag, my bag.
Speaker 1: I mean that, but he has he has the skull tattoos.
Speaker 1: And for anyone who's in just in that video that
Speaker 1: a lot of different stations do that for their station,
Speaker 1: Pride or whatever. It's mostly gang cops that do that,
Speaker 1: though it's always gag cops. But that's Deputy Samuel Adama
Speaker 1: that James is talking about. So this is what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And you can go to l A Times and watch
Speaker 1: like the whole video. It's actually uh and he should
Speaker 1: be in jail during time because in his mind he
Speaker 1: said he they feared for his life. He thought he
Speaker 1: had a gun and a case over a simple as
Speaker 1: that he don't like black people. Now, black people need
Speaker 1: to take heed to this ship like this lady here. Man,
Speaker 1: if the police scared, and you can understand why they're scared.
Speaker 1: They're in a different environment opposed to their homes. They're
Speaker 1: coming to the to the city. Yeah, they don't supposed
Speaker 1: to be there. If they're that's scared. But the only
Speaker 1: way they identified is when they see black people. We're afraid.
Speaker 1: Man at that city is gonna be for word, Texas
Speaker 1: about to change their name though, because their police chief
Speaker 1: and mayor laid they didn't waste any time. They didn't
Speaker 1: waste any time for five million dollars, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: at least a twenty million dollar million. I looked it up.
Speaker 1: I left all the papers for you. That's that's all
Speaker 1: they for the five million and this ship. They didn't
Speaker 1: even take him, uh five minutes, three minutes to write
Speaker 1: to sign off on it five million. The attorney ever,
Speaker 1: if that's the exact worst attorney ever he needed his asking.
Speaker 1: He ain't did that. Trust me, he ain't signed off
Speaker 1: for no five million dollars. Now it takes much longer
Speaker 1: for it. You can have a settlement. But trust me,
Speaker 1: he no, I mean, I wouldn't even I wouldn't even
Speaker 1: go for that. Like, this is a lady that was
Speaker 1: playing on going that could have been a pharmacist and
Speaker 1: was planned on going to be a doctor. She graduated
Speaker 1: from a college and had a biology degree and her
Speaker 1: future was to be a doctor. There her life expectancy
Speaker 1: and the earnings that is expected for her a year
Speaker 1: old career lady was way more than five million dollars,
Speaker 1: way more. I was surprised at how quick they laid them.
Speaker 1: They laid the city out, They dropped a gauntlet quickly.
Speaker 1: They were going to cop was had happened on Saturday
Speaker 1: and was fired by Monday. Now he he actually resigned
Speaker 1: before firing. She said, you're gonna fire. Yeah, but does
Speaker 1: he lose the ability to use the funds that officers
Speaker 1: can use for defending themselves in criminal cases? He used
Speaker 1: the funds to build out of jail. Yes, she did well.
Speaker 1: He did out looking up under the police something the
Speaker 1: police union did. Yeah, I don't believe that. It was
Speaker 1: thirty dollars. Bill was three thousand. I thought it was
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand. But now, what's your name? He resigned
Speaker 1: from the police unions. Aaron Dean. Aaron Dean, Now they
Speaker 1: did a big press conference. They they they laid him out.
Speaker 1: They're trying to, I guess, be transparent to the community
Speaker 1: because they don't want to see I guess the riot.
Speaker 1: And this is a new police chief. Um, he's an
Speaker 1: interroom he had. He's not even the uh, he's not
Speaker 1: even a full time police He was like the nicest
Speaker 1: police chief I've ever heard give a press conference. Yeah
Speaker 1: before worth I mean, I mean, the the mayor real
Speaker 1: talk that that that that chief that did that. I
Speaker 1: took my head join because he was calm. But you
Speaker 1: can tell he what's so sincere about this situation? I mean,
Speaker 1: if anybody listen to it, could you not tell that
Speaker 1: it kind of kicked them off something. I mean to
Speaker 1: have that that we know because the heat turned. I
Speaker 1: mean I never seen a city go against someone that
Speaker 1: quick without a full investigation. Yeah, it was pretty quick.
Speaker 1: I think it was quicker than Ambers. Maybe it's something
Speaker 1: that I mean quicker in the history. This ship happens
Speaker 1: Saturday night, Monday morning. They were ready to fire this morning,
Speaker 1: well Monday five o'clock and he was arrested Monday, Monday night.
Speaker 1: And this is us having this conversation on the outside.
Speaker 1: I always try to think, what would that, what would
Speaker 1: it be like, or what was it that that made
Speaker 1: these people feel this way. That motherfucker said something or
Speaker 1: ship or something or wunderbol and somebody didn't like it.
Speaker 1: And and if you don't do nothing, body I will.
Speaker 1: And they would have made the stationed a whole lot
Speaker 1: of worship because hey, he only one of the things
Speaker 1: that they said that they fired him partly one he
Speaker 1: never identified himself as a police officer when he went
Speaker 1: into a Tatiana Jefferson's home. And that's bullshit. You don't
Speaker 1: have you can you can fear for your life and
Speaker 1: saying that they that she picked up the gun. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this happened. I'm just trying to say.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this happened. I'm just saying that's how
Speaker 1: they know pretty police just because um somebody, somebody turned
Speaker 1: and point the gun at you. I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: happened once again, But you don't have to holler foolice
Speaker 1: beliefs and did shoot. The motherfucker turned and got the
Speaker 1: gun and there was a wellness check. They they didn't
Speaker 1: even enter a home. That's the major problem is he
Speaker 1: shot from outside through a window with the door open already. Well,
Speaker 1: all of that costs concerns two am, two am in
Speaker 1: the morning, lights on in the whole house, and um,
Speaker 1: door open. Those three things will cause you to not
Speaker 1: just walking on the door. Hey, anybody home? No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Every time I say that, I've seen the police announce
Speaker 1: yourself and then you would take some suspicious activity going
Speaker 1: on with those those things and are going or even
Speaker 1: in the backyard police officers. Whoo woo, woo, woo woo.
Speaker 1: You gotta flash light now that ship. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you had all that going. I think you had
Speaker 1: a slash light. Yeah, you have to. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: set up here and trying to justify the shooting. Um,
Speaker 1: you gotta identify yourself though, Yeah, I appreciate you both identify. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not accident. Totally difficult. Look you said about the shooting
Speaker 1: because he didn't identify itself before he did the shooting. Um,
Speaker 1: that's before worst is making a big deal about the
Speaker 1: city saying he never identified himself and that was at
Speaker 1: a policy. We're talked about the approach of the house.
Speaker 1: The house they covered, they asked for something he did
Speaker 1: and also this was called on bodycam footage. What if
Speaker 1: there was no body cam, would they have tried to
Speaker 1: cover this up? Now they have taken her gun and
Speaker 1: put it in her hand. It has been known for
Speaker 1: him to cover it up. What we if we didn't
Speaker 1: have the phone, we will be a whole lot worship
Speaker 1: than where we are today. Yeah, and you didn't say that.
Speaker 1: So with the phone they can't do what they would
Speaker 1: normally do. But in this situation, a cell phone would
Speaker 1: not have helped at all because you didn't need to
Speaker 1: be Yeah, the body cam their own camera in this situation,
Speaker 1: if they didn't have this ship and they you think
Speaker 1: they would have had a body cam. Now why use it? Well,
Speaker 1: every every day that's come back. Yeah, because a lot
Speaker 1: of people make false complaints against the police and then
Speaker 1: the police can say it our only start to tape
Speaker 1: here like that. Remember that actors from Django, the movie Django,
Speaker 1: I think she made a bunch of Trump. They proved that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he actually check this out. He audioed his interaction
Speaker 1: with that actress. But the cops got reprimanded because it
Speaker 1: was not official. You're not supposed to audio the people
Speaker 1: out in the field. But it saved him because that
Speaker 1: actress was lying about the interaction she had with that cops.
Speaker 1: So now they got bodycam, they can't lie. But now
Speaker 1: it's gonna show all of their like their criminal behavior.
Speaker 1: Walker straight line too, Well, it didn't help, It didn't.
Speaker 1: It didn't make Aaron Dean Walker straight line. He had
Speaker 1: bodycam footage on scary. I don't even want to talk
Speaker 1: about you know, he needs to be I bet you
Speaker 1: once they do his background in the academy, How are
Speaker 1: you scared? And you're not even in the house at
Speaker 1: the academy. Knew that he was a little bit Well,
Speaker 1: you know, you know the scary cops and which ones
Speaker 1: that you know, who who you don't want to ride
Speaker 1: and who you want to ride with, you know, just
Speaker 1: like you know the brutal, you know the thieves. You know.
Speaker 1: You know, you learn your cops and you've only been
Speaker 1: on a year, year and a half, but they knew.
Speaker 1: So when you was a police officer, you knew who
Speaker 1: was who. You knew who was the bad one and
Speaker 1: who ain't right and who was good? You did Wow,
Speaker 1: I mean, how do that make you feel? Being around
Speaker 1: people like that? Well, you know, one day they actually
Speaker 1: gonna get caught. We doesn't set up concert was smoking,
Speaker 1: was still in cocaine from niggas that were smoking. I
Speaker 1: know that too. We don't have all time, we were
Speaker 1: gonna have conflict. Got caught line in police reports. Um
Speaker 1: cops taking niggas guys finally getting that pretty good. Get
Speaker 1: your ass out of here. You know they're keeping that pistol.
Speaker 1: We don't know that part. They could have booked it.
Speaker 1: It never done. Why would they let you go somehing
Speaker 1: in their trunks. I didn't know that. I've never seen
Speaker 1: nobody do that. Well, but I'm not saying it didn't happen,
Speaker 1: but I've never seen experience that. Raphael Peresidino dirt and
Speaker 1: playing the gun. I didn't know them. I worked the
Speaker 1: company they work. There is your error, though we got
Speaker 1: the nineties excepting ship happening to us. But this is
Speaker 1: my thing, and I thought about it all week. When
Speaker 1: the fund is we mad at the police. We were
Speaker 1: doing this ship to ourselves. Why do you think they're
Speaker 1: doing it? I ain't gonna say they an't. They're killing
Speaker 1: because we kill each other, but they don't give a fuck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're doing it. We just sold our souls to the
Speaker 1: motherfucking devil. We're killing each other on the daily, So
Speaker 1: how do we how do we get your them? No, no,
Speaker 1: don't just know. I'm just saying, we gotta stop hurting
Speaker 1: each other and then start paying attention to these motherfucker's.
Speaker 1: Just we gotta understand a mistake from from the racist
Speaker 1: part and all of that. You know, the KKK initiations
Speaker 1: and all of that that you don't want to believe.
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta deal with that. I'm just glad
Speaker 1: we're moving forward. I think uh Kaepernick and this awareness
Speaker 1: and social media is helping it. And I think cops
Speaker 1: gonna just after the Rodney King Coss learned that they
Speaker 1: couldn't be putting the baton on people. Why not? They're
Speaker 1: still doing it. They don't do it as often as
Speaker 1: they were doing it. I don't know how did they
Speaker 1: do it. I don't look for but trust me, it
Speaker 1: was a lot of things going on, and I think
Speaker 1: we're getting better and that's the bottom line. Well, understand
Speaker 1: what James was saying. We gotta stop shooting each other
Speaker 1: out here on these streets. We had about I don't know,
Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty murders in Los Angeles last year
Speaker 1: and we get well one cop killing, two cop killings
Speaker 1: a year in l A. Nationwide, there's there's a few
Speaker 1: dozen nationwide. Why is uh the people are it's protesting
Speaker 1: majorly and um for what is the dullas what? And
Speaker 1: um and the cops and and and the management know
Speaker 1: they did everything that they're supposed to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have never seen a copy fire that quick arrested
Speaker 1: that way. I think they're protesting against the culture of policing,
Speaker 1: not necessarily has it been a history and for word,
Speaker 1: I don't know you you y'all didn't hear the guy
Speaker 1: that was talking right to preach your dude, Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: some big comforence going on where they're trying to get
Speaker 1: an oversight and you know, basically what they said is
Speaker 1: they just tied at the police patrolling the way they do,
Speaker 1: and that this is our city. Y'all work for us.
Speaker 1: But y'all come and y'all do what y'all feel y'all
Speaker 1: want to do to us. We're tired of that. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna allow this to happen no more. You need
Speaker 1: something arount some coffee? Yeah, because okay, because of this shooting,
Speaker 1: this ain't going to just go by. He gets put
Speaker 1: in jail. And then if y'all think this is gonna
Speaker 1: go away, this ain't going away. Training needs to be better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I get where you're coming from. And and we
Speaker 1: all need to get better. Every black mothercker they listened
Speaker 1: to crones, our arm whomever out there trying to split
Speaker 1: that word. We need to We need to quit, man,
Speaker 1: these guys needed to quit. And I want to give
Speaker 1: shuts out to those cats that's doing the gang truths
Speaker 1: and all that ship. Man. Without that, we are lost.
Speaker 1: I hope that ship worked and and and these guys
Speaker 1: get the picture. We got more meetings coming. There's a
Speaker 1: meeting tomorrow with the east Side Bloods and Crips. They
Speaker 1: do that every other Thursday, and then every Friday of
Speaker 1: the West Side Bloods and Inglewood Bloods have a meeting.
Speaker 1: So it's progressing. And it's progressing for sure. It looked
Speaker 1: like it's going somewhere. Absolutely is, And and every meeting
Speaker 1: and gets bigger and bigger. The first meeting, which I
Speaker 1: didn't attend, had eight people. The last meeting that the
Speaker 1: east Side had was I counted people in that room.
Speaker 1: So there's more people jumping on board are just and
Speaker 1: the and the and the more of the mirror. But
Speaker 1: you need platforms like this and other people to really
Speaker 1: be out there speaking on it. And for man, this
Speaker 1: is real serious. This is serious ship. All right. Well,
Speaker 1: let's wrap it up on that note. We'll we'll we'll
Speaker 1: be keeping our eye on this Aaron Dean trial, which
Speaker 1: should be coming up soon. You know, it's interesting they
Speaker 1: never give offer deals two cops that are charged with
Speaker 1: some sort of killing. It always goes to a trial.
Speaker 1: You know. They don't offer deals in these cases should
Speaker 1: go through good ones that batter. They should go through
Speaker 1: uh some type of checking balance system or some type
Speaker 1: of so people can say, well, they killed that under
Speaker 1: the rug. They need to come up with the why
Speaker 1: do that when we got when? When I could have
Speaker 1: killed three people? And but if I give up this
Speaker 1: motherfucker because he was the ring leader, you will let
Speaker 1: me go for these three murders a r K. Three
Speaker 1: motherfucking people. If they really want that person, they will
Speaker 1: give you a deal. Exactly. Everybody should be accountable for
Speaker 1: their bullshit. If we gotta pay for it, then they
Speaker 1: should have to pay for it, just like us. I
Speaker 1: said the cops should have to go through the system.
Speaker 1: They should, That's what I'm saying. All right, Well, thank
Speaker 1: you everyone for listening to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles,
Speaker 1: episode twenty nine. I want to just make sure that
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