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Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard whine girl. Oh,

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Speaker 2: What else is going on? My electric toothbrush battery dyed.

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Speaker 3: Hello, thank you so much. Can I start off with

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Speaker 3: You know, three minutes ago when I was trying to

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Certainly nothing car related.

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Speaker 3: Come on, Jesus or whoever or whoever, what kind of

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Speaker 3: See, there's a spectra. Yeah you know, my mom is

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Speaker 3: No, my boyfriend is actually quite like flexible and like

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Speaker 3: It wasn't even that I was trying to make him

445
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,120
Speaker 3: do it. I would just sit down, turn the TV

446
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 3: on and he'd be like, what's this and I'd be like,

447
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,440
Speaker 3: you so not you not? This isn't for years?

448
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 2: Give him a chance. No, he It's one of the

449
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 2: dumbest shows ever created ever.

450
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 3: But I really like that tailor girl. I can't tell

451
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 3: how much of it is just because like, I think

452
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 3: she's so gorgeous, but I actually think she has a

453
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 3: good heart.

454
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 2: It's a big It's a big part of the show

455
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,199
Speaker 2: in season two, especially because there is a one of

456
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 2: the other gals is named to me and she decides

457
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 2: she's a fan favorite. She's simply not which believe to me.

458
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 3: There are two women that I'm like, you look the same,

459
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 3: but one I mean, no, they all, but they blur

460
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 3: so much.

461
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 2: There's to me. She might be confused with jen Affleck

462
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 2: or Jesse has such a funny Jen Affleck lied about

463
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 2: being related to Ben Affleck.

464
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 3: That's a lot.

465
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 2: That's another thing that we go over the season. Holy,

466
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 2: that's a whole controversy. Okay, I mean I've been Unfortunately,

467
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 2: I'm now just recapping the episodes. I'm literally recording myself

468
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 2: talking about so I know everything about the show is.

469
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 3: One of them owns like a hair studio.

470
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 2: Now that's Jesse and she owned something called jay Z

471
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 2: Styles and Academy. And I've not to brag. Last time

472
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 2: I was in Utah, I made a visit. How was

473
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 2: it incredible experience? I walked in whoever the cashier or whatever.

474
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 2: They have two sections. They have the retail where you

475
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 2: buy your extensions okay, an entire wall of hair at

476
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: then the salon. And I walked into the retail and

477
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: asked the cashier or whoever. She was just on her phone.

478
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 2: I said, could you take my picture? He said, you're

479
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 2: the fourth person who been there to wait.

480
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 3: Okay. So if that's not to me, is Demi the

481
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: younger one who has an old husband?

482
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, So that's another And my apology is still

483
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 2: a listener. If I'm so sorry, all I ever want

484
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 2: to talk.

485
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 3: Stop listening. Okay, Bridge and I are just hanging out.

486
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 2: Demi is married to Brent Brett Is I believe forty

487
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: nine and thirty thirtyish. There's a and he met her

488
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 2: I believe when she was nine ew and I think

489
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 2: he was twenty six.

490
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 3: He was actually forty nine at the time. He's kind

491
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 3: of stuck there.

492
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 2: He and he is been in reality shows. He was

493
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 2: in The Bachelor whoa I think, and then the pandemic

494
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: threw his season off or something he was married to

495
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 2: do Watch Real Housewives of Solic City. I don't there's

496
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: one of the friends of on the show. I can't

497
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: remember her name. He was married to this woman. This

498
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: guy will do anything possible to get into.

499
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 3: A reality I also think it's so funny that so

500
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 3: many of these women have been married and divorced and no,

501
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 3: no shade, Like life is hard. You know, you're making

502
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 3: a decision when you're young. But it's like, isn't that

503
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 3: a big thing in your religion that you.

504
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 2: Do you stay married? Yeah? Yes, but it's also a

505
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 2: big thing to get married young for Mormons.

506
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 3: Right, and to like hold onto your virginity, like it's

507
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 3: a recipe for divorce. Right. It's like, if you don't

508
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 3: want people divorcing, you would get that. You know who

509
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 3: doesn't get divorced is actually gay men. They say, the

510
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 3: lowest divorce trade, the lowest divorce. Right. If you look

511
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 3: at straight couples, lesbians and gay men, gay men stay

512
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 3: together because, for one, they wait for like thirty years

513
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 3: to get married, right, they've been such a long yeah.

514
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

515
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 3: And then also women often initiate divorce, and so if

516
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 3: you got two women, oh, it's like who's getting divorced first?

517
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 3: But gay men they're like are men in general like elsetay?

518
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 2: Wow?

519
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean be just gay men. Okay.

520
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 2: The last thing Mormon, the Mormon ever will be is

521
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: a gay man, and unfortunately that would save their marriage situation.

522
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 3: Yeah.

523
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, everyone on Secret Lives, I think almost every

524
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: one of them has been divorced once. Not there are

525
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: a couple who haven't and probably should and probably will.

526
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 3: Like Jen Affleck.

527
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 2: Right, Jen Affleck is in her first marriage.

528
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: To Zach in her first of six.

529
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess fourteen. He is bad, right, like the

530
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: bit I saw him the White Witch.

531
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 3: Yes, oh gosh, yes, he looks.

532
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: Like something that would offer you Turkish.

533
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 3: Delight, yes, but which looks good but is disgusting.

534
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 2: Can we talk about Turkish delight for just for a

535
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: few minutes? Couple times through elementary school, did you read

536
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: the Narnia books?

537
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: I think I read a couple.

538
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 2: I and especially in elementary school, you don't really know

539
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 2: what even what it is. But Turkish delight is this

540
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: thing in the book that's like the ultimate temptation. Then

541
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 2: you find out later in life what it is and

542
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: you're like, that's disgusting. That's Grandma food.

543
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 3: It's like worse than Saltwater Way worse. It's so bad. Yeah,

544
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: And I think sometimes I get I forget, Like years

545
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 3: will go by and I'll be like, oh, like I

546
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 3: think I remember actually going to San Francisco. It's like

547
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 3: stopping in Monterey and there was like a place where

548
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 3: you get Turkish delight and it was confusing a bit

549
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 3: with like baklava.

550
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: Oh that is a Turkish delight.

551
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: It's Turkish and it's good, yes, But Turkish delight, You're like,

552
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 3: this is like colorful dough that.

553
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: You know, it's like slime. Yeah, it's like very soft gummy, right,

554
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: and no one likes a soft gummy, especially one that

555
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: almost feels like it's been left in the car and

556
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: the flavor is not powerful enough, the fruitiness isn't there.

557
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 3: But whatever flavor it is, it is bad. It's like

558
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 3: a week bad.

559
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 2: If you're going to put delight in the name, you've

560
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: really got to, you know, find the perfect product. Yeah.

561
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 3: Like if it was just called like Nobbin's, you'd be like, Okay,

562
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 3: I forgive it. But to be like yummy food, you.

563
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: Know, delicious, savory, Yeah, Turkish Delight was the ultimate disappointment

564
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 2: for me as far as food and candy go, because

565
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 2: I was like, this little boy is being essentially sent

566
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: to hell to for this treat.

567
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 3: Remember much of.

568
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: The plot, Yeah, I think the witch is like, come

569
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: have some Turkish Delights, okay, And he falls for it.

570
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: And then he goes and marries Jen Affleck.

571
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: And then he marries Jefflick.

572
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 3: And gets mad at her for going to like a Vegas.

573
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: Show, going to Chipendance.

574
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 3: When she pays the bills.

575
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 2: She absolutely pays the bills. He sucks, Yeah, he sucks.

576
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: He's a bad egg, he kind of. And then he

577
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: promises he's going to medical school. That drops out of

578
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: That was the only reason to stay in the relationship.

579
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: She was going to be married to a doctor and

580
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: now he's just kind of a loser. Yeah, the whole group.

581
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 2: I feel bad for all of them. But again, you know,

582
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: you watch the show and you're like, oh, I feel

583
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: so terrible. Their lives are being ruined. And then I think, well,

584
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 2: but this is a decision they've made. Yeah, but what

585
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: a what a program?

586
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: Or maybe it's you know, it's got to get bad

587
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: for you to snap out of it. But if your

588
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: whole community is in that, I mean, what was it

589
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: for you to Yeah?

590
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: I mean, well or are.

591
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 3: You still fully in it?

592
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: I'm here to convert.

593
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'm available to the religion. That religion in

594
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: certain ways.

595
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: It has some good quality yeah, but a lot of

596
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: bad ones as well. I mean, being gay is a

597
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: tough one for a moremony. But I feel like that

598
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: also for me was a nice like uh, a cheat,

599
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: because it was like, well, I'm this thing that and

600
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: they tell me that it doesn't exist, it's not reality,

601
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: and I know it's reality. What else are they telling

602
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 2: me that's not true?

603
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sort of like such a clear thing that

604
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 3: you're like, I can't stay. Whereas like, you know, if

605
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 3: you're a straight woman, you're like maybe I can believe

606
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: that this is what it's supposed to.

607
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: Be, right, you know, and get my own reality show.

608
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so it's that was that was it for me.

609
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: And I think most of the Secret Lives and Mormon

610
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: Wives Scouts are leaving as well, or they're it's like

611
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,239
Speaker 2: they're like, we want to be part of it. Then

612
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: it's like, well, you don't do anything that has anything

613
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: to do with that. Religions.

614
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 3: I know they a lot of them like drained. Yeah

615
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 3: something is like I feel like, you know, it's a

616
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 3: rule of thumb that if like something is forbidden, then

617
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 3: people go hard the other way.

618
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: Uh huh. And yeah, that is a thing within Mormonism

619
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: is there's no like uh, once you leave it, there's

620
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: no real support system or way out. And so I

621
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: think a lot of people swing in a crazy direction.

622
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: Which I'm sure for people who are still in Mormonism

623
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 3: are like that person is drugs, that.

624
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: Person is now on myth Yeah yeah, yeah, we were right.

625
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: Yep, not me. Wait did you ever do you watch

626
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 3: a couple therapy another? I just likedrown that so but

627
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 3: in one of the seasons, there was a couple that

628
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: had been More's.

629
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: Right and can I just say extremely annoying people.

630
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 3: Oh they sucked the woman. She was very annoying. But

631
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: then I think she's gone on to live a crazy life,

632
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: which I'm sure, like if you're still in Mormonism, you're like, well,

633
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 3: if I leave, I'm going to become her.

634
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: Right, here's the perfect example of how awful it can be. Yeah,

635
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: but then again, you got they got to be on

636
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: couple's therapy, the ultimate thing.

637
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: They're huge stars.

638
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: They got to meet Orna. Yes, and if I would

639
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: do anything to meet Orna, I would love to.

640
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: Except do we want to? Because what if she's a real.

641
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: Person and we're just appointed, right, She's not what we

642
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: see on camera Orna reach out.

643
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: I mean I always want to know what like her

644
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: and esther Perel's like what are their relationships? Like?

645
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: Oh of course, like what is their real life situation?

646
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: And Orna has that the mentor what's her name?

647
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can.

648
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: They'll like cut to it and she'll be like this, she's.

649
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: Like a cartoon cat, you know, she's Yeah.

650
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: She's always like lounging on pieces of furniture, like she's

651
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: melted to them.

652
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: If you were just like, what's kooky old New York therapist.

653
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 3: It's her red glasses. She's so great, scarves, all that shit.

654
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: They need more of that show. If there are plenty

655
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: of dysfunctional couples, I know.

656
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: And you know they're so classy about it. It's not

657
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: it's just such a slow Honestly, this last season I

658
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: was like, almost a little too slow of a burn.

659
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, did you see there was the guy. I

660
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: don't know if this is interesting in all three your viewers,

661
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 3: but I don't fucking care about you guys. Okay, but.

662
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: Did you watch the last sees?

663
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: Of course, so the guy and the girl where the

664
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: guy was like a little bit oh, he kept being

665
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: like my trauma from college. I can't talk about it.

666
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 3: I can't talk And.

667
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 2: What did I end up being? It was like so

668
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: it was.

669
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: And then she you come to find she had some

670
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: real trauma.

671
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 4: She's like, oh okay, And he's like his thing was

672
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 4: basic was like his college buddies.

673
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: Found some porn of his on hist computer that was

674
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 3: like had heavy people had like there was some queer

675
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: porn and he was like I was so.

676
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 4: Embarrassed, and you're like, dude, And now he's like forty

677
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 4: and he's like when I was twenty, my my fraternity

678
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 4: bros found that I had some porn of that wasn't

679
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 4: just like blonde tips, you know, like I.

680
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: Think that was literally it. It was like, Okay, everyone

681
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: has different types of trauma. It's like that come on,

682
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: so basically, let's like yeah.

683
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, his wife was like, oh when I was twelve,

684
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: I was like.

685
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: Brutalize, I watched my family be killed.

686
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, And you're like, I think she gets

687
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: to be the one who's draw died.

688
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: Did they end up ending the relationship?

689
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: No, I think they lasted. But that other couple with

690
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: the short haired blonde woman and Boris Boris, Oh, Boris.

691
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: Boris. He was a tough one.

692
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: He sucked.

693
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was not fun.

694
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: They were very weird. I feel like we can make

695
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: this interesting even for people haven't seen this. Basically, there's

696
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: this couple and the guy took up all the oxygen.

697
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: He would always be like, my love, we're talking about

698
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: me right now. We'll get to you. But me, we

699
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: live in a city that I don't feel his home,

700
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: and we've moved eighty times, but I need to feel it.

701
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: And it's like and I can't write my book.

702
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, get over yourself. And then they stopped coming yes,

703
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: and she was like, yep, I think I lost them.

704
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: And then they came back and you were like, has

705
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: the woman been brainwashed? Because she was like I had

706
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: asked him to leave many times and he said no.

707
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 3: And then I found out that he was planning a

708
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: little birthday party for me, and I was like, that's

709
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: so nice. And then we went out dancing and I

710
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: saw him dance and I remember, this is a little

711
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: prince boy, and you're like that your husbands boy. Yeah,

712
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: And then later they got divorced. And now I watch

713
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: her on TikTok.

714
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: How she doing.

715
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: She's better now she's been free from him for three years.

716
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: I wonder if that period when she kind of fell

717
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: for him, he got like a book deal and she

718
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: thought maybe I can make this work.

719
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: She had been married to someone else and left him

720
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: for this guy. And in the show Boris Goes when

721
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: Jessica came to me, she was extremely disoriented because what

722
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 3: you fucking like hit her over the head and like, like,

723
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: I was like that.

724
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: I mean that actually probably is true. If she ended

725
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: up with him, you have to be disoriented to date Boris.

726
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: He's such a loser, a little baby. He is a

727
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: little prince. We wish him nothing but badness. Well, look,

728
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: there's something else we need to talk about that might

729
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: be contentious that Orna could help with. I was really

730
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: excited to have you here today. I thought, Allison is

731
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: so wonderful, She's so lovely, she's so funny. How could

732
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: anything could possibly go wrong on the podcast? The podcast

733
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: is called I said no Gifts. So I was a

734
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: little thrown, a shaken, maybe upset when you kind of

735
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: stormed into the studio today holding what, from where I'm

736
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: sitting appears to be an absolute gift. It's wrapped in

737
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: red shiny paper with the silver bow. Is that a

738
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: gift for me?

739
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 7: It is a gift for you. It's a bad gift.

740
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 7: If that helps, well, I don't know if that helps

741
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 7: or hurts.

742
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you've obviously created an issue and made a mistake.

743
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: Well, I misread the email. I thought it was called

744
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 3: I said gifts.

745
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: Oh you're a skimmer.

746
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 3: I'm a big skimmer. I screw up a lot because

747
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: I'm deleting keywords. But yeah, I thought it was I

748
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 3: said gifts, which I was like, Wow, Ridger, that's an

749
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 3: awfully demanded reader.

750
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 2: Who I'm that tacky?

751
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought you were, and I'm not sure you're not,

752
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: but I do acknowledge.

753
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: I must say the last half hour of talking has

754
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 2: proved that I have pure I'm class, I'm very classic.

755
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: Okay, fair, fair, fair, fair.

756
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: Well it's here. You've made the mistake. There's egg all

757
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: over your face. Should I open it here? On the podcast?

758
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: You absolutely shit?

759
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: Okay, As I said, it's kind of like a book

760
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 2: size gift with red paper and one of these bows

761
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: that seems difficult to just stretch it.

762
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: Just stretch it on it. Yes, so you said it's

763
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: book sized. Cats out of the bag. It's two books.

764
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 2: Two books. It's two books.

765
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 3: It's two books, and let me tell you they're bad books.

766
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 3: Because my thing is I have a habit.

767
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: Of going, yes, the Gunman and his mother.

768
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 3: Yep, it's about Lee Harvey Oswald and his mom. And

769
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: then the other.

770
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: One is unlocking your artistry.

771
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 3: Yeah. So my thing is I like to buy. I

772
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 3: get ambitious. If I walk into a place with books,

773
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'll read, I read, let's read. I buy

774
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 3: a book and then I never open it. So these

775
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: were written from my bookcase fifty percent of my bookcase

776
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: I haven't read, and I was like, I gotta. My

777
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 3: boyfriend was like, there's a lot of lame books on

778
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: the you know, and I was like, this is honestly

779
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: a gift for him. Read a little culling, and I

780
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 3: think these two books exemplified the two shitty categories of

781
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: book that I buy.

782
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: That I think I'm going to read what a spectrum.

783
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 3: One is self hell creativity, and the other is true.

784
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: Crime, true crime, absolute violence.

785
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: There's a little flicker in me that goes, take back

786
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 3: the gunman in me because I want to read it.

787
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: I mean, just looks like it was self published first

788
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: of all. Truly, it's like a large fond the and

789
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 2: his mother phone.

790
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's basically a staple together.

791
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: Back it's Lee Harvey Oswald, Marguerite Oswald and the making

792
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: of an assassin of an assassin. So it seems like

793
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: it's gonna blame Marguerite.

794
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, moms are the cause of all.

795
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: Problems, every single problem on earth. You know.

796
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: What I did read that sort of was a got

797
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: into some of those themes where there's this book called

798
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: Hidden Valley Road.

799
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 2: Okay, oh wait, what is this incredible about? The family.

800
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 3: It's about a family with it's either ten or twelve kids.

801
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 3: I think it's ten kids, and six of them end

802
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: up having schizophrenia. And this is like in the sixties

803
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: where you know, there was a school of thought. The

804
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: main school thought in medicine was like, schizophrenia comes from

805
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 3: a bad mom. So the poor mom was when it

806
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 3: actually like Jenes, you know, you either have like how

807
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: about maybe.

808
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: There's a prem Maybe they're.

809
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 4: Right.

810
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 3: That was a very good book, and that I was

811
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: and I read that book, which the thing is, I

812
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: don't have a built in time in my life for reading.

813
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: I read that book on a vacation.

814
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: Oh perfect, I'm a reader on a vacation.

815
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 3: But I only go on a vacation like maybe once

816
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: a year right right now. But yeah, then I buy

817
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: these books in my regular life and I never touch them.

818
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 2: So like for example, for the gunman and his mother,

819
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah did you just did you were seeking out Ali

820
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: Harvey Oswald book or.

821
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: Just saw this?

822
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 3: I just like fucked up real stuff.

823
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: You know.

824
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: I'm like crime and a child, and you know, and

825
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 3: I like, I like nonfiction. I haven't been able to

826
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: read fictions and those like.

827
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: Fiction can be I feel like nonfiction can is surprisingly

828
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: easy to read. Yes, I think as you get older

829
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: or something where it's just like you want to be reading,

830
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: but you also want to be like learning, because you

831
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: don't really have any other area of life where you're learning.

832
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 2: It's like in school, you are learning constantly. So I

833
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: feel like fiction is easier than you want to get

834
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: away and.

835
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: Like fiction chapter to chapter ostensibly like build on each other.

836
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 3: Where it's like nonfiction, especially if it's like a lot

837
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 3: of the self help and psychology shit I read, it's like, yeah,

838
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 3: didn't really take in all of chapter two. You can

839
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 3: probably still reach aapter totally.

840
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 2: You can just breeze through horror sections of those books.

841
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: But okay, well, I feel bad taking this away from you.

842
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: I know so little about Lee Harvey Oswald other than

843
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: is the big crime. I didn't know that Marguerite had

844
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: so much had everything to do with it.

845
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: Well, maybe the book says she was totally normal, her

846
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: kid was a free.

847
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: But then she bought him that gun for Christmas?

848
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 3: Did she? I don't even know that.

849
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: That's my Oh okay, that could have been a Christmas

850
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: gift gone wrong. Yeah, how do we know?

851
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: We don't?

852
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: That's the ultimate conspiracy. Yes, yes, there was a Christmas

853
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: gift that could have been something else, a train set, Yeah, yeah,

854
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: and then we'd well, we wouldn't still have JFK.

855
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: But he wouldn't have gone the way he went.

856
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: We would have and the curse probably would have ended.

857
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 2: But because of this gift, Lee probably asked for something else. Yeah,

858
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: he probably wanted a truck m hm, or a new sweater.

859
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: And Marguerite thought, no.

860
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 3: Gun, gun for my child.

861
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: But that's really all. There must be documentaries about this.

862
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 3: I feel like, I'm sure, I'm sure.

863
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 2: A million documentaries about the Manson family.

864
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: Yes, can I tell you? Actually, the book that I'm

865
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: reading right now is TV. And by that I mean

866
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: the last time I went to the bookstore, I'm like,

867
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 3: my book taste is so embarrassing. Went to the bookstore

868
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: and there is a book that is just Flea Bag.

869
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: Okay, the scripts of Flea Bag.

870
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 3: It's called Flea Bag the scriptures, and it's just the

871
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: two seasons, and so I am reading TV. That is

872
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 3: the only I do actually love reading scripts of things

873
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: that I've already seen, because it's like just the movie

874
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: or TV shows replaying in my mind.

875
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: You don't have to really imagine anything.

876
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: But how lame that. I'm like, the only book guy

877
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: can read right now is TV.

878
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: But I bet those scripts in particular because of the

879
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: way that shows are very written.

880
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: Yes, and she's brilliant. So it's like I'm reading college

881
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 3: degree TV.

882
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 2: Okay, how often do you read a full script at

883
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: a time? How does that? I do?

884
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: Because they go fast and so I'm on episode six.

885
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: That's lame, cancel me.

886
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: Every show should do this, release the script, I know,

887
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: I know, Wow, really interesting. I guess most shows are

888
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: bad and that's why they don't do it.

889
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, and I'm sure you know that was such

890
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: a hit that she's like, look, I'm gonna ring this for.

891
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: All it's self contained. She really made a lot out

892
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: of those two seasons. Yeah, and now she's what writing

893
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: some movie?

894
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure. And you know, I'm thinking, like

895
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 3: I've also been revisiting a lot of Lena Dunnet, and

896
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what, when you put out a

897
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 3: great work, you have to go away for ten years

898
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: if you don't, or you can never do anything again, right,

899
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 3: you know, I.

900
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: Think that's the way to go. Usually it's like, why

901
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: tarnish the thing. Yeah, if you got away with it

902
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: for eight seasons. Yeah, take the money and just read scripts,

903
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: do whatever you want. But yeah, like, I just saw

904
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: a new Manson documentary Okay, learned nothing, And I'm like,

905
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: what does that say about my consumption habits that I

906
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 2: just simply now know everything about the man?

907
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 3: You have consumed a lot about that? Yeah, Okay, that's

908
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: one that I think I've maybe seen a documentary, but

909
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: it's not one that i've but I am like a

910
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 3: rather basic bit who's watched like a ton of true crime, Right,

911
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of like a particular topic that

912
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, I know a lot about that one. But

913
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: what does it for you? With Manson?

914
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: Well, for a while it was so eerie, you know,

915
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: I said, there were so many eerie elements of it

916
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: was so all the witchiness and all the mystery. But

917
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: then like, once you know enough about it, you this

918
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: final documentary for me was like, oh, these were just

919
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 2: idiots who were bored. Yeah, like that's all. There was

920
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 2: no real evil or anything. There were just morons who

921
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: had bad ideas and it was a wild time.

922
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, one of the true crime things I've

923
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: consumed a lot of is like the nexium stuff. Oh,

924
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: I've like watched two documentaries, listen to the podcast, you

925
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 3: know a lot of stuff. And I remember when I

926
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 3: was consuming that being like what is wrong with us? Women?

927
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 3: You know that it's like you, how often do you

928
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 3: see a cult that's like a lady at the top

929
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 3: and ninety men like here and there. There are some

930
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 3: cults around by women, but mostly it's an ugly dude

931
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 3: who plays volleyball and a hundred women selling their you know,

932
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: liquidating their iras, and it's just and stuff like that

933
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: where I'm like, ladies, we got because we are I

934
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 3: think women by nature, if something's not going right in

935
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 3: their life, they're going, I'm probably a piece of shit.

936
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: Something is wrong with me. I got to fix me.

937
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: I bought my son a gun for Chris and that

938
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 2: he killed the presidat.

939
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I think that leaves you vulnerable to

940
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: this man is confidently saying something is wrong with me.

941
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: We are in agreement. Let me follow him and give

942
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: him lots of money and do group blowjobs. Have you

943
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 3: heard about this? No? Yeah? Apparently, when like the cops

944
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: were honing in on Keith R. Nieri, he fled to

945
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 3: Mexico where there was a whole other Nexium branch and

946
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 3: he had his like top slave ladies there with him,

947
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: and like as one final ceremonial act, he had them

948
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: all give him a blowjob.

949
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: Like a like the spanking machine.

950
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: What's the spanking machine?

951
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: Like I remember what like at birthday parties or whatever

952
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: like or something. As kids, you would go through and

953
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: everyone would spank you.

954
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: Oh okay, maybe that's a Mormon thing because I've never experienced.

955
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: I don't even want to google that spanking machine.

956
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: But just like so he was all just in a

957
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: row or you know, maybe there's some alternat they didn't

958
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 3: get into to the like choreography of it. And then

959
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: apparently the cops like bust in. The blowsup had been completed.

960
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: I don't you know, but the cops cold very nice,

961
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: but the cops bust in and a point, and one

962
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: of his top ladies later said that he just like

963
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 3: hid in the closet and that was the moment where

964
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: she knew this is not some like Jesus like person.

965
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: He's small enough to fit in a closet or yeah,

966
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: the poor one, because if if a cult came a

967
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: knocking in my life, when I was nineteen, I would

968
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 2: be in prison for racketeering because I have that personality.

969
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: And you know, now I'm like, you know, worldly enough

970
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: to be like maybe no one has the answers, but

971
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: I I would have because I like to follow rules.

972
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: I think that something's wrong with me. All those things,

973
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 3: you know, to.

974
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 2: Catch you at a low point, your lonely, you're like, well,

975
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 2: here's a group of friends who wants me to do.

976
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 3: There's things up plan of like yep, yeah, sound right.

977
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: As far as I've gotten outside of religion is a

978
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 2: book club and I'm not even a good book club member,

979
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: y'h just bad at it.

980
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: Wait, so was there a point where, like, as a kid,

981
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: did you believe? And was there a day where you're like,

982
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: there's no God, Oh.

983
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,240
Speaker 2: I thought you were asking about the book club at first.

984
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: No, and I'm sorry, And you can also be like,

985
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 3: let's not talk about that. This is another podcast.

986
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: Through childhood, there was like there were little I feel like,

987
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 2: there were little tent poles of like, Okay, that seems weird. Yeah,

988
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: that seems weird. Every week church is boring. So that's

989
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: one thing that's just adding up over time. And then

990
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: like it just kept adding up at then I went

991
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 2: on a Mormon mission, still not totally convinced of the thing.

992
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: And then you know, I was like on a bike

993
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: eight hours a day in Malaysia, and it's like, what

994
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: am I doing?

995
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: Well?

996
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: Mormon mission two years?

997
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 2: You go for two years when you're nineteen.

998
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: Oh my God, to just like spread the word.

999
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: To try to convert people. And I was in a

1000
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: in Malaysia where it was illegal to do that, so

1001
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: we like kind of had to be undercover, which the

1002
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 2: whole thing was like, what's going on.

1003
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: My boyfriend's half Malaysia.

1004
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: Oh I could have got him.

1005
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: You could have go. Why didn't you?

1006
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll come over after the podcast.

1007
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: Just believes in science and a little bit Buddhism, you.

1008
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 2: Know, but yeah, there I it led to a literal

1009
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 2: nervous breakdown and then I was like four or five

1010
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: months in it was like I'm going home. And then

1011
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: it was like the beginning of like Okay, I'm gonna

1012
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: slowly get out of this. And then but you know,

1013
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: I left it, stop going, stop believing whatever. But it

1014
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: was and then moved to La and then it was

1015
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: years before I even came out because like all that

1016
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: just keeps it a hold of you.

1017
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: I'm sorry you went through that, but also makes you

1018
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: so interesting. I'm a really deeply fascinating bread down you

1019
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 3: went to Malaysia.

1020
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, somehow I ended up the most boring

1021
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: personal life.

1022
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:58,959
Speaker 3: You're fascinating.

1023
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, it just but there was never a I

1024
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: think there was really never a time that I was

1025
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: so in on it, you know. But I was singing

1026
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: the other day, was like, it's weird that like at

1027
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: some point I was thinking going around being like, oh,

1028
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: I might not go to heaven, which is just like

1029
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: that fact, the fact that that had a control over

1030
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: my life is.

1031
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 3: Really I was very like I was pretty devout as

1032
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: a Catholic.

1033
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: When when did it turn for you?

1034
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 3: Let's see. You know, college I loosened up, okay, because

1035
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: I had mostly gone to Catholic schools. I went to

1036
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: catholicchool till like tenth grade, and then I went to

1037
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 3: a public school. Then in college, I met like so

1038
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 3: many different types of people that were cool. And then

1039
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 3: also I then I remember a couple of years like

1040
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: when my younger brothers were in college. I remember coming

1041
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 3: home for the holidays one time and my younger brothers

1042
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: being like we're atheists, and I was like, we are

1043
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 3: really going into the bathroom being like is there? No,

1044
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: like just being like is there? And yeah? And then

1045
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: I also, like as a kid, was like I'm going

1046
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: to save myself till mat And then you know, end

1047
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 3: up being quite an old virgin, and a lot of

1048
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: that having to do with just reckoning like do I

1049
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: believe do I not? But then also once I was like, okay,

1050
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna hold onto this virginity. Then being a

1051
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 3: little old and so you would meet a guy and

1052
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 3: be like, let's do it, But then I was such

1053
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: a I would tell them right. There was no like

1054
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: let me just slip it in.

1055
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 2: I do that though, there's no real normal way to.

1056
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: Have it, and so then it just made it take longer.

1057
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: This was a nice little mess.

1058
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I remember like being like, oh, I'll

1059
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: save myself to marriage. Why is every other boy having

1060
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: a hard time? But it's because I had no It

1061
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 2: was so easy for me. I was like, this is

1062
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: a briefing myself till dad. Yeah, I could do this

1063
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: for the rest of my life. Baby, so simple. But yeah,

1064
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 2: it leads to a kind of slow the developments you

1065
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: have to make really quickly to catch up with everybody,

1066
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: or yeah, it's an interesting cycle to go through.

1067
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: But then in certain ways, I feel like my queer

1068
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: friends who dealt with that, like I don't know, pre

1069
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: twenty five or thirty, I'm like, you're such a stronger

1070
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 3: person because you had to reckon with this giant thing

1071
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: about I being told a certain thing. My experience is different.

1072
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 3: I have to like claim and choose myself right, so

1073
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 3: that whereas I think, I think it's kind of the

1074
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: Mormonism where if you're like a straight white woman, you're like,

1075
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: society is kind of I don't know, I haven't had directly,

1076
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: so I feel like you end up in your thirties

1077
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 3: or forties and you go now is when you go

1078
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 3: this is bullshit, or like I want a divorce.

1079
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: Or you know, like I don't. Yeah, but I feel

1080
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: like that sort of person. It like like what I said,

1081
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: I kind of had a cheat being gay, like an

1082
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 2: adult who's had a fairly normal life within their religion

1083
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: and then finally just puts it together. I'm like, that

1084
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: seems re they difficult. Yeah, it seems like wow, you

1085
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: like because you were really like saying I figured it

1086
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 2: out on my own, there was no other I don't

1087
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 2: know the difference hard.

1088
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 3: I remember also ones asking a friend, my best friend

1089
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 3: from college, like he was out in college and then

1090
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: there was we were like at some reunion or something,

1091
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 3: but we were talking about a person who was coming

1092
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 3: out who was like forty okay, And I asked him.

1093
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 3: I was like, when you're around someone who's going through

1094
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: the coming out process but they're forty, how is is

1095
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: that annoying for you? Because it's like, well I figured

1096
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 3: this out. And my friend was like a little bit,

1097
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 3: because this person has to go crazy for your life,

1098
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: and I'm sort of like, been there, done that, right,

1099
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,760
Speaker 3: which I was like, that's funny.

1100
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's uh yeah, I haven't really thought about

1101
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: that because you're excited for the person to Also you're like, well.

1102
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: You're about to be psycho psycho and.

1103
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: May stay a psycho. Some people stay psycho back in

1104
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 2: the closet. You go back and they're find a wife. Yeah,

1105
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: come on bugging everybody.

1106
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 3: With your self exploration.

1107
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Well we've talked a little bit about the gunman

1108
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: and his mother, Then do we have anything to say

1109
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 2: about did you look at the even more like a

1110
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 2: fake book fully self published. Yeah, it's by Peso the poet.

1111
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 3: It's so sad and I bought this this year. Oh

1112
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 3: my god, what the fuck?

1113
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: What is there's like a baby?

1114
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: What kind of books do you read?

1115
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: Like a key in its mouth? I'm all over the place.

1116
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 2: I didn't read this recently, but I was going to

1117
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: recommend the library book. Have you read that? By Susan Orlean? So?

1118
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 2: How you pronounce her name? The blood Orchid lady? I don't.

1119
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: Such a good piece of nonfiction, unbelievably good.

1120
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: What is it a memoir?

1121
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: No, it's about a some fires that took place in

1122
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: LA in the eighties or nineties, I think, And about

1123
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 2: the person behind all of that.

1124
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: Okay, it's really I mean that reminds me though of

1125
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: Couple's Therapy this season with the throttle. Oh and how

1126
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 3: the guy had been behind supposedly one of the like

1127
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 3: a big.

1128
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 2: Massive fire, which he downplays in the biggest way possible.

1129
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 2: Yeah and yeah, if you just watched that and didn't

1130
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: look into it, you'd be like this poor guy, he

1131
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: got blamed for something that he didn't do. Then you

1132
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 2: look into the actual news reports and you start seeing

1133
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 2: a different picture about this guy. Yeah, and he's so annoying.

1134
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 3: Yes, and it makes you think, like, I feel like

1135
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 3: this is maybe a tide turning in the therapy world

1136
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 3: where I you know, I'm not a trained therapist, but

1137
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 3: I feel like, isn't it a thing that the therapist

1138
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 3: is supposed to like assume the greatest good of the

1139
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: like always gave the person the benefit of the doubt, right,

1140
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 3: But so like if you're the therapist a bad guy

1141
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: who's like accidentally lit two thousand houses on fire, and

1142
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, man, that must have been hard for you.

1143
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: Is that actually the best response when prahaptice person needs

1144
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 3: a dose of reality?

1145
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was behavior that led to that which is

1146
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 2: now in the rest of his life. Yeah.

1147
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 3: And there's this other there's this therapist, doctor Terry Reel

1148
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: that I've got.

1149
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 8: I love that.

1150
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 3: Doesn't it sound like a comedy, like a sketch comedy. Yes,

1151
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 3: And so he's a therapist who is like come up on.

1152
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 3: He was like on the New York Times podcast and

1153
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: I've been reading some of his stuff, but he talks

1154
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 3: about he does like a couple of therapy stuff, but

1155
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 3: he mostly focuses on like men's issues or whatever. And

1156
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: he was like in my sessions, I tell them you're wrong,

1157
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 3: good for him, and I'm like, that's clean.

1158
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: You know, that's how I as a therapist.

1159
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: But I wonder I think it's a flawed idea that

1160
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 3: it's like, no, you gotta like be the person that

1161
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: can be like your ideas are good.

1162
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, because a lot of ideas are bad

1163
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: and a lot of personality traits are bad. Yes, you

1164
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: come into my therapy office. I'm blaming you from the

1165
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 2: moment you walk in. Yes, you have problem, and I

1166
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: can see you're the cause of most stuff and now

1167
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: you're creating even more problems for yourself. Let's get into it, yeah,

1168
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: rather than be like yeah.

1169
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 3: Because then yeah, don't you just like feed the beast

1170
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 3: and let that guy in a throttle keep setting fires.

1171
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 2: He's probably lighting one right now exactly. I feel like

1172
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 2: you didn't learn anything that season, to be frank. Yeah,

1173
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: he seemed bad at the beginning and bad at the end. Yeah,

1174
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 2: And did the threatle stay together?

1175
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 3: I don't think that For the most point, you don't

1176
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 3: know if they stay together or not.

1177
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: They just like yeah, I think it has to be

1178
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: a pretty serious ending for them for you to know yes,

1179
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: I hope that they all found their way. They didn't

1180
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: seem like a great group of people. No, well, I

1181
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: think we should play a game.

1182
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

1183
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna play a game called Gift or a Curse.

1184
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 2: But I need a number between one and ten from you. Okay, five, Okay,

1185
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 2: I have to do some light calculating. So right now,

1186
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,959
Speaker 2: you have the microphone. You can promote, recommend, do whatever

1187
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: you want. I'll be right back.

1188
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah. I remember getting the email and

1189
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 3: it said promote anything that you're up to it, And

1190
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 3: you know what I had to in my mind, go, Alison,

1191
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 3: you're incubating on stuff. Okay. This might not be a

1192
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 3: year of putting shit out there that people can consume,

1193
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 3: but it's a year of planting the seeds wherein three

1194
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 3: years ago, this Alison rich Gal's popping off left and right. Okay,

1195
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 3: So I hope that's good enough for you the public.

1196
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 3: You know that's I'm really getting mad.

1197
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, they can find you online.

1198
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 3: You can find me somewhere. Yeah, but get off my

1199
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 3: fucking back is mostly what I have to say.

1200
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: Great, do you have anything to recommentions? Do you have

1201
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 2: any recommendations?

1202
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 4: Oh?

1203
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 3: Recommendations. Yee, I could have taken them more positive recommendations. Ummm, no,

1204
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 3: there's nothing good out in this world. No, there's lots

1205
00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 3: of things. I did rewatch All of Girls and it's excellent's.

1206
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: Re watched a little bit of it recently and it

1207
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: does hold up.

1208
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I know is a messy person, but she is

1209
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: a writing an acting gene.

1210
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 2: A well made show, very well made show. I saw

1211
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: The Naked Gun wonderful time.

1212
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 3: Because everyone's been saying good things, but you're like, oh,

1213
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 3: is it just because like I think, like I know

1214
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 3: the writers a little bit, like there are enough in

1215
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 3: our This.

1216
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 2: Is a serial problem, especially within like our comedy, where

1217
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: everyone's like everything is the best thing they've ever seen, right,

1218
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 2: and then you go and see and right, that's happened.

1219
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 2: I think literally every time for me, this it's very

1220
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: very funny. It's just fun to be in a movie

1221
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 2: theater watching a movie where the only purpose of the

1222
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: movie is to be funny. Yeah, nothing else. Yeah, wonderful

1223
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 2: love that. Yeah, that's a recommendation. Great. Okay, this is

1224
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: how we play gift or a Curse. I'm going to

1225
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: name three things you're going to tell me if they're

1226
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 2: a gift or a curse and why, and then I'll

1227
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 2: tell you if you're right or wrong, Because there are

1228
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 2: correct answers. You can win, you can lose, you can

1229
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 2: fall in between. I love it. Be very careful, all right.

1230
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: This first one is from our Mega list of listeners,

1231
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 2: from a listener named Sarah. Gift or a curse TUTSI rolls.

1232
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: I don't think this is the right answer, but it's

1233
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 3: my answer. Gift why because I love the chew. I

1234
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 3: love that it's a good and it's it's way better

1235
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 3: than Turkish delight.

1236
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1237
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 3: It's like an actual delightful flavor, and and it's it's

1238
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: not gum where you're like, oh, good flavor for a minute,

1239
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: but then this now piece of rubber remains and I

1240
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 3: just have to commit to it. It like has a beginning,

1241
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 3: middle end. It ends in your stomach, and it's not

1242
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 3: so chewy like an intense caramel where you're like, ah, fuck,

1243
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 3: this is made a mess of my mouth. Right, So

1244
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 3: the more I say this, the more I go Gift

1245
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 3: no matter what, even though I get the sense that

1246
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 3: you're saying curse wrong.

1247
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: It's a curse, absolutely a curse, of course, it's a

1248
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: curse tutsi rolls. First of all, the tutsi role is

1249
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: no no one's favorite candy. I'm to looking at the camera.

1250
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 2: No one's favorite candy is the tutsi roll. I would

1251
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: love to arguing that we don't need it anymore. It's

1252
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: something from the past. No one knows what it is.

1253
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: It's not It is not a carameu. It's not chocking.

1254
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what it is.

1255
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: It's not gum, it's not is it a brown taffy,

1256
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: it's not taffy. Taffy's softer. There's no reason for it

1257
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 2: to continue to exist. There's a certain category of candies

1258
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: totsi rolls, necko wafers.

1259
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 3: I mean when necka wafers are flavorless and difficult on

1260
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 3: the mouth.

1261
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: Awful tasting. Yeah, well, tutsi rolls are terrible and awful

1262
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: on the mouth. No one ever seeks out of tutsi

1263
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: roll And also we've kind of developed a better version,

1264
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 2: the fruity, the little fruit flavored tutsi rolls, which are better.

1265
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 3: Oh, those are yeah, and I would only ever get

1266
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 3: those at Easter.

1267
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: There was interesting. It feels like an Easter candy.

1268
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, those were. But wait, I'm thinking of the flavored tutsu.

1269
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: Yes, but so that because it commits to a flavor. Yeah, lime, orange, banana,

1270
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: little banana. But the flavors, as far as I recall,

1271
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: I haven't had one of those in a long time,

1272
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: are pretty accurate. And it's an older candy, so they were.

1273
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: I feel like they were ahead of their time as

1274
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 2: far as flavoring goes. But the tutsi roll no one

1275
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: wants it.

1276
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 3: I'll take them, but you're not.

1277
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 2: You're not gonna go buy toutsi rolls.

1278
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 3: I'll do that fucking today to spite you.

1279
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 2: The only time totty rules have ever been purchased is

1280
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: by bank managers or out of spite.

1281
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 3: Okay, well I continue the tradition today.

1282
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: Okay. One wrong? So far? Not a good look. Number two.

1283
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: This is from a listener named Michelle. Gift you a

1284
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: curse reposting birthday wishes to your Instagram story.

1285
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 3: That is a curse. Why because that's going the fence

1286
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 3: I have you know? And actually, gosh is it Chris

1287
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: what's his name? He does a much better like riff

1288
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 3: on this. You know, the guy with the long hair.

1289
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: Oh, Chris Fleming. I love Chris Fleming.

1290
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm glad that you immediately knew what I was

1291
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 3: talking about, because I was like, I don't know, you know,

1292
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: you describe someone, You're like, wait, are the descriptions like not?

1293
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 3: I was gonna be like tall bird man. Now I've

1294
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: done the damage anyway. But Chris Leving does a very

1295
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: funny thing about how like if you see someone and

1296
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: they've reposted all these that's a scary bitch that like

1297
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 3: the friend group is intimidated by this person. That like,

1298
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 3: if they felt like they had to post you out

1299
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: your birthday, it's because they were gonna bitch you out

1300
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 3: if you weren't, like you forgot my birthday. And yet

1301
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 3: I have on my own birthday reposted because I get

1302
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 3: sensitive on my birthday. I'm not saying a more mature

1303
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,439
Speaker 3: me would not sure, but the me that I am

1304
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 3: get sensitive. And I think I grow up in the

1305
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 3: time of Facebook, where your birthday in Facebook times you

1306
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 3: feel like the most popular girl in the world, because yeah,

1307
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: you're like, oh my god, that person that I like

1308
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 3: shared a college door. You know, just like acquaintances are

1309
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 3: wishing you happy birthday. Now no one's on Facebook. So

1310
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 3: you wake up on your birthday and you're like, maybe

1311
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 3: your mom has texted you, and you're like, God, like,

1312
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 3: is anyone out there? So that one friend, you know,

1313
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 3: maybe in Alana Johnston, you keep us on my red

1314
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 3: day and then you repost that and then suddenly people

1315
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 3: are either reposting you or they're at least texting you.

1316
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 3: They're going happy birthday, and you go, I madter.

1317
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 2: You're big acknowledged yep, but ultimately you say curse.

1318
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's like it feeds into this thing of

1319
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 3: like needing attention to too far a degree.

1320
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: Right, correct, There's no way I could argue against this.

1321
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: I am on record. I feel like it is the

1322
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: same as taking the birthday cards you've been given door

1323
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 2: to door. It's yeah, so embarrassing, it's so demeaning to yourself.

1324
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 2: It's humiliating. It's no one likes looking at them. Yeah,

1325
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 2: and we're all trapped in it, yes, because if you

1326
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 2: don't reshare them, then the person think that did the

1327
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: birthday wish thinks well, why did I do this? It

1328
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: is the most toxic cycle on the internet.

1329
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 3: Now. See that's like I think the birthday har resharing

1330
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: them is gross. But the friend who writes one. I

1331
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 3: don't necessarily think that's gross because I'm.

1332
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 2: I think that's very nice, right, But I.

1333
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 3: Don't necessarily feel like if the person doesn't repost it,

1334
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 3: I'm mad at them unless they've reposted everybody else's.

1335
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 2: Well see that's but they're going to repost at least

1336
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 2: one of those.

1337
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 3: If they're me.

1338
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, everyone, everyone that's trapped in the worst

1339
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 2: cycle possible. It has to end. I don't know how

1340
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 2: we end it. Instagram just needs.

1341
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 3: To kill Zuckerberg.

1342
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: Well, that that would solve a lot of problems. Someone

1343
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: give your son a gun for Christmas.

1344
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 3: Bring back the Harvey Hostweld.

1345
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: But it's what Instagram needs to do is implement a

1346
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 2: birthday reminder. Yeah, which would become annoying as well. But

1347
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: we've got to get back to that other toxic thing

1348
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 2: of Facebook, of everyone reaching out to you, making you

1349
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: feel like the most important boy or girl in the world.

1350
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 2: But it's a bad thing. Curse, absolute curse. All right,

1351
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: you've gotten one right so far, You've got one left

1352
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 2: to do. This is from a listener named Andy Gift

1353
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: Or a curse. Sculpture of a person sitting on a

1354
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: public bench.

1355
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 3: Wait is the sculpture including the bench, or the sculpture

1356
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: is the person and it's been placed.

1357
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 2: On the bench. Now you should I wouldn't give you

1358
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: any more information, but this is a little unclear. These

1359
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: will basically be a bench and then there'll be like

1360
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: a bronze statue of a person sitting on it that's

1361
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 2: permanently part of the bench.

1362
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 6: Mm okay, I would say curse why because I have

1363
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 6: a general aversion to like, like when I was a kid,

1364
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 6: we went on a vacation and we went to a

1365
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 6: steakhouse and there were mannequins.

1366
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 3: Throughout that there was like a steakhouse. Yes there was

1367
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 3: a man. There was a mailmankin in the girl's bathroom.

1368
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 3: They were just like what just like body figures about

1369
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 3: And I know a sculpture's the same. It's more artistic,

1370
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 3: but it's also taking up like valuable bench real estate,

1371
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 3: right you know? But I guess I give it points

1372
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: for like a little bit of whimsy and whatever city

1373
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 3: I imagine this to be part of cour But I

1374
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 3: need that butt room, is what I'm going to say.

1375
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 3: And wrong, Okay.

1376
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 2: These are a gift. This is what a nice thing

1377
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 2: to keep you from looking like a loser. You sit

1378
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 2: down on that bench and there's nothing else on a

1379
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 2: friend who's this friendless loser? You sit down on it,

1380
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 2: and you're sitting next to uh Mark Twain. If somebody

1381
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 2: just kind of looks, they'll be like, oh, that person's

1382
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 2: sitting next to a friend.

1383
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 3: I see. But don't we want to live in a

1384
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 3: world where we're secure enough to sit on a bench

1385
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 3: by yourself?

1386
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely not?

1387
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 3: And are these bench people always famous like Mark Twain?

1388
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: I think they are because I feel like the one

1389
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: I've seen is Mark Twain, and I feel like it's

1390
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: in front of a Nordstrom wrack.

1391
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 3: But also, aren't you assuming like the person see observing

1392
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 3: you on the bench is either not paying attention or

1393
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: has bad vision that they go that's two people. Oh interesting, right,

1394
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 3: like any But you're still a loser.

1395
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: You know interesting? Well, you're wrong, there's no there's no winning.

1396
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 2: You got one out of three. Now you are trying

1397
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 2: to get another point.

1398
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 3: I'm sad.

1399
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: Oh god, okay. And now producer on Lisa is going

1400
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: to do their gift or a curse. They're going to

1401
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: present one thing and we both have to speak to it,

1402
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 2: and they have their answer on a LEAs, what is

1403
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 2: it today?

1404
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 3: Gift or a curse? Flavored chapstick?

1405
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: Do you want to go? Or should I?

1406
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: God?

1407
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 2: You go? Flavored chapstick? Flavored chapstick is a flavored chapsticks

1408
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 2: a curse. I don't think anything that close to the

1409
01:05:54,880 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 2: mouth should smell like food if it's not edible. The

1410
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 2: cherry one is kind of the classic, and it isn't cherry,

1411
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 2: it's more medicinal. It's horrible. And then the ones that

1412
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: are like doctor Pepper or Apple or whatever. I don't

1413
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: like that sort of thing. It's a tease and it's

1414
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: ultimately worthless. They should just be wax. See.

1415
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 3: I feel I knew you would not like this. I

1416
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 3: feel like I'm learning you and you're a hater and

1417
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 3: atleast I don't know you well enough. But I feel

1418
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 3: the answer is supposed to be cursed. But I'm gonna

1419
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 3: go gift. I think, for one, I have bad taste,

1420
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 3: so like I know that my feelings, but I know

1421
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 3: my feelings are wrong, right and so but for flavor chopstick,

1422
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 3: I'm thinking more coconuts, vanillas, you know, not so much fruity,

1423
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 3: and it's a nice little added kick.

1424
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 7: Okay, I'll take it.

1425
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 5: It's a gift and all wrong opposite reason that you said, Bridger,

1426
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 5: because I don't think anything should be flavorless that close

1427
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 5: to the mouth. I think that's unnatural. Oh interesting, there

1428
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 5: should always be a flavor on your life.

1429
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 3: Are you an eater of toothpaste? Like, let's you know that? Well,

1430
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 3: you know I don't.

1431
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, am I gonna actually say I don't

1432
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 5: swallow on a podcast.

1433
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 8: But in all honesty, I truly believe it is such

1434
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 8: a gift because it's also like if you ever have

1435
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 8: like a lipsmacker on as an adult, it like takes

1436
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 8: you back to a happier time and place.

1437
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 2: Well, you need to fix your present, this nostalgia cycle

1438
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: you're trapped in. Wrong on a. Lisha's wrong, You're wrong,

1439
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: everybody's I'm right. I'm gonna flip good luck. I think

1440
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: it's cemented into the ground.

1441
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 3: I feel like we started this podcast as warm acquaintances.

1442
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 3: Now we're leaving us cold strangers.

1443
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 2: Well, we have one final thing to do. We have

1444
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 2: to answer a listener question. Okay, well, hopefully we can

1445
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: come together for these poor souls. This is I said

1446
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 2: no emails people right into I said no gifts at

1447
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 2: gmail dot com, or they send a voice note sixty

1448
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: seconds long in a quiet room. We help me answer

1449
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 2: listener question. Absolutely, okay, this is hello, bridget and honored guests. Okay,

1450
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: so yes, that's uh starting a mistake. I hope that

1451
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 2: was a mistake or someone's already attacking me. I will

1452
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 2: be visiting a friend from college who moved to Hawaii

1453
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 2: a few years ago, and would like to bring her

1454
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,680
Speaker 2: a gift since she is hosting me. She is a

1455
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: New Yorker, and I think it would be nice to

1456
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 2: bring her something that reminds her of home. But I

1457
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 2: live in Boston, so I don't know what I could

1458
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 2: bring that would be of New York City quality slash

1459
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 2: expectations that I could find in Boston. Do either of

1460
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,799
Speaker 2: you have any thoughts? Thanks for your help, best wishes,

1461
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:34,719
Speaker 2: And that's from Katie.

1462
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 3: This is gonna sound cliche, but bring her a rat.

1463
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:42,919
Speaker 7: Bring her a rat, take a live animal onto a plane,

1464
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 7: a subway rat or check it, yep, check it, check lug.

1465
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 3: There we go.

1466
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 2: Do they have rats in Boston? Boston?

1467
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 3: I feel like rats are like you know, the cockroaches

1468
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 3: of rodents, like they can arrived.

1469
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 2: Almost anywhere does Hawaii have rats?

1470
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 3: We could get that started. We could get we can

1471
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 3: kind of ruin.

1472
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 2: It's kind of like what it's kind of how rats

1473
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,600
Speaker 2: initially got around, right. They would a board the ships.

1474
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 3: As gifts, people them as gifts.

1475
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 2: It was it was like, you know, cinnamon or all

1476
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 2: these things.

1477
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 3: Hey, America, how about some rats?

1478
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 2: This exotic rats? Yes, I think a rat is an

1479
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 2: interesting thing that could spread disease and lice and remind

1480
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 2: this person of why they shouldn't church New York City.

1481
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,839
Speaker 3: I'm assuming New York City because nothing else matters.

1482
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 2: Why Katie's problem here is she's not a good enough friend.

1483
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 2: Boston is not that far from New York. Now, book

1484
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: the flight out of New York. Uh huh drive down

1485
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 2: to New York or take the train, take the bus.

1486
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: What's the bus that goes on fun bus?

1487
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 3: That was like fifteen bucks? And yeah, it's gorgeous and wonderful.

1488
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 3: I can't remember if this was me or my brother.

1489
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 3: You know, a story gets told enough that you're like,

1490
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 3: was that my memory or someone else's? But happened to

1491
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 3: someone in my bloodline? Where they were on the bus

1492
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 3: and then the person next to them like barfed into

1493
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 3: a plastic bag at the beginning of the ride, and

1494
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 3: so they just like sat next to for four hours.

1495
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 2: And then there's that famous story of the person being

1496
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 2: decapitated on a bus that wasn't that buss. Yeah, yeah,

1497
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 2: that was a tough one to hear. But all that said,

1498
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: get on the bus, head to New York. Get into

1499
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 2: the airport. They've got a gift shop, the Hudson News,

1500
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: and you'll find all sorts of quality New York items.

1501
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: Their bag of M and M's.

1502
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,560
Speaker 3: Classical T shirt that says I love and why.

1503
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 2: I love n why uh you know?

1504
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 3: A magazine foam finger statue of Liberty. What is it like?

1505
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 3: Headband all the.

1506
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: Foamah, yeah, yeah, of course Lady Liberty's headband. Yeah, she

1507
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 2: wearing a crown. What does she got on there?

1508
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 3: A cute visual memory. I don't know what she looks like.

1509
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 2: Cute gal with a cute head band. Katie book the

1510
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 2: bus ride book, the Flight out of New York. Don't

1511
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 2: write back in thank you. We answered the question perfectly, Hawaii,

1512
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: thank you, thank us for the new rat the rat epidemic.

1513
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 3: Do you feel closer to me your father away?

1514
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: I feel so close to you, right now okay, I

1515
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 2: feel like we've healed and I feel like nothing can

1516
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 2: stop us.

1517
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 3: Now let's take the city by storm.

1518
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,560
Speaker 2: Let's take the city by storm. I've had such a

1519
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 2: wonderful time with you, a delightful time, and I've got

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01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: two books that will now crowd my bookshelf.

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01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 3: I'm so happy, and I hope it drives your partner crazy.

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01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 2: It probably will. I'm gathering, you know, I mean the

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01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 2: amount of items I've got.

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01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's wait, can you like, has there been

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01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 3: a best and worst gift and or most expensive where

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01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 3: you're like, whoa this person? And it's inappropriate?

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01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: Let's see, that's a great question. The two best gifts

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01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 2: I've gotten are probably a car garbage can from John

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01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 2: Milstein and this beautiful waffle maker from Cola Scola that's

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01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 2: like a stand up shit. It was one of these

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01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 2: things that was like, oh, that's just a nice item.

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01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just it's like, did you get married?

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01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 2: I was getting married.

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01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: I think those are two. I feel like somebody else

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01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 2: has really gone out of their way to buy me

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01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: a big thing, and I can't remember I carry I'll

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01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: give you a bottle of dom Oh that's right.

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01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you got some fancy people on this. If

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01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 3: they don't bring a good gift.

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01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 2: That I'll say. Some of them, I'm like, I know,

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01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: I know you're.

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01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 3: You got the budget, you have gotten bigger see a

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01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 3: car garbage That tells me a lot about you. That

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01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 3: just because I would appreciate that, but I wouldn't be like,

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01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 3: best gift is that is it? Are you a messy

1547
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 3: car guy? Are you a very clean car guy?

1548
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 2: I'm a very clean I'm now a very clean car guy.

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01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 2: I always in my car was never like disgusting, but

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01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 2: they were always just receipts gathering. There are things that

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01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 2: you're just like they just are gathering. Yeah, exactly, not

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01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 2: anymore but essentially spotless. Yes, and then I've got a

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01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 2: waffle maker. Did you say worst?

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01:12:59,080 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't say. Oh. The one I can say

1556
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 2: is Jamie Lee gave me a chewed up dog toy. Okay,

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01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 2: And that's the one thing that I can't remember. She

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01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 2: had a story about it, but that was the one

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01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 2: item that I immediately threw away after the podcast, and her

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01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: assistant told me that they wanted it back. But then

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01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 2: I got in touch with Jamie. She's like, no of

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01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 2: course I don't. Oh my gosh, but those are I

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01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 2: think those are the kind of spot I got. You know,

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01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: Paul Rubins was on the podcast and the things he

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01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 2: gave me that's like cactus candy, Oh my god, things

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01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 2: like that that I feel very fortunate, Jack so cool.

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01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 3: I just watched the Paul. It was incredible. He was

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01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 3: like I was a little too young to appreciate the

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01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 3: Peeney stuff, but it was like, Wow, what a damn genius.

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01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 2: Absolute genius. And Peev's Big Adventure one of the all

1571
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: time great movies.

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01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 3: I have to him and I haven't seen it.

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01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 2: You haven't seen it? Oh my god, right now I

1574
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 2: know it holds up perfect.

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01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 3: Okay, good.

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01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 2: It is such a fun, delightful movie.

1577
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 3: How about his second movie with the Big One Kiss?

1578
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 2: Wait, what's that? The Big Phoebe's Big Top? Oh well

1579
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 2: I never saw it?

1580
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 3: Well did you watch that?

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01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because I forgot about that week.

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01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 3: The documentary they talk about how you like is like,

1583
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 3: let me hold like the longest kiss, and you're like,

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01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 3: he really did it. I think it's very funny.

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01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 2: I think that one is kind of universally thought as

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01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: thought of as well. Just don't watch it.

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01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that great.

1588
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but big adventure, perfect movie. Yes, well, now we've

1589
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: gotten into another thing because we healed and and we

1590
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 2: can continue to have conversation. It's just flowing. It's flowing.

1591
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 2: There's so much to talk about all the time. But

1592
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 2: I'll let you go.

1593
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 3: Please unchain me.

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01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 2: Thank you for being.

1595
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,759
Speaker 3: Here, thank you for having me. Let a treat.

1596
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 2: The podcast is obviously over. There's been you know, a

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01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 2: little bit of a hint that was going to end,

1598
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 2: and hopefully you started turning the wheels in your mind

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01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,719
Speaker 2: as to what you'll do with the rest of your day.

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01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 3: I get the sense that you're sitting in your car

1601
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 3: avoiding going inside your own home.

1602
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 2: Oh the dread. It's just been mounting to.

1603
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 3: Address what's inside.

1604
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 2: It's just been idling, just filling the world with pollution.

1605
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, you've got to go and tell your partner

1606
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 2: it's over. Yeah, it's time to end things. Well, I

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01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 2: guess that's the end of the show. I love you, goodbye,

1608
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 2: I said no Gifts is an exactly right production. Our

1609
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 2: senior producer is on Alisa Nelson, and our episodes are

1610
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 2: beautifully mixed by Ben Holliday. The theme song is by

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01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 2: Miracle Worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without

1612
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 2: our booker, Patrick Cottner. You must follow the show on Instagram.

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01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: At I said no gifts, that's where you're going to

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01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 2: see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And

1615
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 2: don't you want to see the gifts?

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01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 3: Livy?

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01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: Did you hear thun a man myself perfectly clear when

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01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: you're I guess Tom, you gotta come to me empty and.

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01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 3: Said, no guests.

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01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 1: Your presence is persons enough. I already had too much stuff,

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01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: So how do

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01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 3: You dare to surbey me?