WEBVTT - HR1: Live from Training Camp 2026 Day 13 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:04.279 This is live coverage up the twenty twenty six Steelers 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:09.560 Training Camp or the Steelers Audio Network, presented by bud Light, 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:11.560 Easy to drink, easy. 0:00:11.240 --> 0:00:13.960 To enjoy, and brought to you in part by your. 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:19.560 Neighborhood Ford Store Creator, Pittsburgh Community Food Bank, First National Bank. 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:25.320 Let's Get Started Member FDIC West Shore Home Remodeling Reimagine 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:31.840 by Leecom Digital, Donz Appliances Visit Donzappliances dot Com guaranteed 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:36.920 lowest prices, free next day delivery, CGR Wholesale and by 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:41.839 Hassa's Steak and Seahouse hass is Is Hospitality. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.479 Good afternoon, Stealer Nation, and welcome to the home stretch 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.239 the final days of our training camp coverage here on 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:53.400 the campus of Saint Vincent College. Another beautiful day in Latro, Pennsylvania. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.200 West Schuler Matt Williamson, It is the drive on Steelers 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.680 Nation Radio. You already know the drill and boyd, do 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:00.760 we have a lot of ground cover today? 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.160 Matt? Yeah, really, we weren't gone that long, but boom 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.600 lots shaking always always covered the next couple days. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.640 Yeah, absolutely, always happens quickly this time of year. We 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:13.000 are in the final stretch. Just two more practices left, 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.520 of course, Tomorrow Sunday and then Monday, the final one 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:20.080 here at Saint Vincent College. We've got some things to 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.720 cover from this morning and all the moving and shaking 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:24.520 over the last couple of days. We of course have 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:28.399 a preseason game to discuss, as preseason number one is 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.080 in the books. The Steelers victorious twenty eight to nine 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.720 over the Green Bay Packers Thursday night at home at 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.400 Akroscher Stadium. But we begin matt with some big news 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:40.200 both here on the home front and around the league. 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.360 A couple extensions that we have to discuss to get 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:42.759 us started. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:44.399 Yeah, let's start there. I think that's a good move. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.279 I think so because we are obviously we'll be sinking 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.080 our teeth into the preseason. 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:52.160 Stuff and times. 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.000 Exactly right, and there is as pretty positive. Yeah, there's 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.080 a lot of meat on that bone to like, and 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.920 I think a couple coachable things too. That's probably always 0:01:59.920 --> 0:02:02.760 the balance you're looking for if you're Mike McCarthy in company. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.600 You get out of their healthy there's plenty of good 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.720 and there's still some bad that you can correct. 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.400 Well, there's some of that for sure, And continue. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.919 And continue to harp on. So plenty of ground to 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.240 cover from what we saw on Thursday night, But some 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:19.200 news first before we sink our teeth into the preseason 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:22.840 game number one from Thursday and leading us off here today, 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.560 Matt is a piece of news that I think, Hey, 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.160 We've discussed but was probably a little bit on the 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.880 back burner with everything going on here at camp and 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:34.279 a lot of attention in terms of the contract conversation 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.280 here in Latrobe around Joey Porter Junior. But another name 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.359 that we had mentioned, defensive tackle Keanu Benton Well. Him 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.640 and the Steelers agreed to a four year, seventy two contract. 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:48.160 Seventy two million dollar pardon me, contract extension about eighteen 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.560 million per year, will make bent In the highest paid 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.680 defensive lineman in Steelers history. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:57.760 Yes, now, I think that's a really good contract. It 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.280 rubs me a little wrong that people keep announcing it 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.280 as the greatest and Steelers history. It's almost like they're 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.959 like Pitt Well. I've heard that from a thousand people, 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.480 because it feels like they're just like poking a fork 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:12.360 in Cam Heyward's side. Like, I mean, times were different, 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.520 but back in the day, no safety could ask for 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.440 more than Troy, you know what I mean, or you know, 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:20.200 like there is a pecking order in these rooms, but 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.760 the league is changing so rapidly and the age difference 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.160 and the value. It doesn't mean that he's better than 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:29.040 cam et cetera, et cetera. But I very much believe 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.000 if he had a season similar to what he's had 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:35.360 to this point, hits the open market, he's probably at 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.520 twenty three a year. I mean this, there's so many 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:41.960 teams with so much money and D tackles rightfully, so 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:44.400 first off, I'm gonna go on a tangent with that. 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:46.440 We're seeing that price is going up. 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.760 That price is going up, and rightfully so, because we're 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.680 seeing way more too high safeties. We're seeing lighter boxes. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.600 And the only way what every defense wants to do 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:00.760 is take away explosives, rush the passer with four, stop 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.400 the run with seven, basically, and D tackles is where 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.280 a lot of that starts. If you can get pass 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.640 rush and I can be very competitive against the run 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:12.800 while taking away explosives with extra guys over the top, 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.400 you got to invest in defensive tackles. And look at 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.520 the top teams in the league. The Eagles just signed 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:20.240 two dudes. You know, the guys that were in the 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:24.800 Super Bowl last year were driven by defensive tackle play. Now, 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:27.200 I'm not saying Benton's quite to the level of some 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:30.679 of those guys, but his abilities on par with most 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.600 defensive tackles in the league. And I think we all 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.080 can admit that he's been miscast as a nose for 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.640 much of his career and still been very successful in 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.799 the passing game, so so successful in the run game. Frankly, 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.240 not very successful in the run game with that being 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.760 his calling card, but as a three technique outside shoulder 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.640 of the guard or a four eye that Cam runs 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.400 a lot the inside shoulder of a tackle or moving 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.120 around and you know, getting a little further from the ball. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.719 I think we're ratching the surface of what he can become. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:07.960 And frankly, if he improves, this deal's a bargain. If 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.520 he kind of stays the same, Okay, you're like, that's 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.560 a decent deal, you know, for today's market. But the 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.080 beauty of it, and I said this a lot with 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.200 Herbig and I haven't heard enough people talking about it. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.920 With the her Big deal. It's a four year deal. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.120 Do you know what a bargain eighteen million is gonna 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.159 be in three years from now or four years from. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.480 Now, especially if he's inn above the line. Yeah, even 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.799 gets a little better, even if he's not a superstar, 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.520 even if he's not a pro bowler. If he gets 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.120 a little better, You're two years from now, he's gonna 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:39.480 be the thirtieth highest paid defensive lineman in the rog right. 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.000 I mean, just the way inflation's going, it might be 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:45.880 a little high today, tomorrow, it's gonna be a real 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.320 good deal. Three days from now, it's gonna be the 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.960 best bargain in town. And like I'm you know, in 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.320 like three years from now, is Watt and high Smith 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:56.560 even gonna be here. You're gonna be pretty happy that 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:58.760 Herbig's locked up for the number he is now. They 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.200 could still hold out or negotiate or whatever if he's 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.320 the best player in the league or whatever. But I 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.039 think this is a great deal for Benton, and I 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.040 think it's a bet on what we can turn him 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:13.279 into in terms of changing his responsibilities, altering them to 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.560 some degree, and we think the best football's ahead of 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.679 him no matter what. And keep your own. I'm always 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.560 a big fan of keeping your own absolutely. 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.680 I'm with you that original you know that original number. 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:26.680 You see it and you're like, hey, that's a pretty 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:27.200 big number. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:29.680 Orbic was the same way. I mean, so I want 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:32.280 to have a conversation with you, maybe even in the 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:36.520 next segment. But the sticker shock of all these deals 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:41.200 lately has really been wow. And I'm sure fans are 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.000 responding the same way. You gave that much money to 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:47.360 a backup outside linebacker. What the heck's going on? It's 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:51.000 just the league is growing so so fast. And the 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.440 conversation I want to have with you is Adam Schefter 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:58.159 put out yesterday or the day before. Since we've talked 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:02.720 about how much the average or how much franchises are 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:06.440 worth now in the league, cool, they've gone up a 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:12.240 ridiculous number. The average franchise from last year to this year. 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.320 The average franchise Dallas is like number one. The Patriots 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.960 are three. I think the Rams are two. I'm sure 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.040 the Steelers are somewhere in the middle, maybe a little 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.720 on the lower end or a smaller market. But the 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:28.280 average NFL franchise has gone up one point five billion 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:32.440 dollars in terms of value from one year ago. 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:34.920 That's insane. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.040 That's insane, and buy me a little time. I gotta 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.160 look something up super quick here, I'm looking for it. 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:41.520 But you know. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:45.320 You know what also too, like we're seeing this across sports, 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.240 but especially in the NFL. I don't know if you 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.120 saw this, Matt, but like in the last week or so, 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:51.880 the Los Angeles Lakers were sold. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.120 That's why Schefter kind of piggybacked off of that. 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.080 Right, they were just sold. I think it was a 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.360 little over a year ago, yes, for ten billions. 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.080 And she's insane, insane. 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:05.160 Yeah, and then twelve or thirteen or fourteen months later 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.200 they sold for twelve billion. So in less than a 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.000 year and a half, the price went up two billion dollars. 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:14.000 And I understand that's the Lakers, but that's an NBA 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:15.040 frame nothing. 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:17.520 But they didn't when they didn't go far in the playoffs, 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.920 they didn't win the whole day. 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.120 Haven't been very good for a few years. Then Lebron left. 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:25.640 He's like the biggest day of the sport and he left, 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.120 and you would think that would hurt the value of it, 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.760 but it doesn't. People are still going and I think 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:34.480 you exposed this to me months ago, but people are like, oh, 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.959 what up one point five billion. That's okay. I mean 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.960 that doesn't mean you got to throw three extra four 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.240 extra million to Bent and her big, et cetera. Yes 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.600 it does, because you showed me this. I mean, one 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:52.000 million seconds is eleven points five days. 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.200 This is one of my favorite just general. 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:55.559 I know I cited all the time. 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.120 I could use it for sports, you could use it 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.360 for economics. It for a million things. 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.720 A million is eleven and a half days. Okay, that 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:07.000 sounds about right. A billion seconds is just under thirty 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:13.960 two years. If you're franchise, the average NFL franchise went 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:18.040 up one point five billion, yep, an extra five million. 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.800 The cap might go up fifty million next year and 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.400 I wouldn't be shocked. I mean, the inflation is not 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.800 even come close to matching going up one point five billion. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.160 Matt Simon, this is nickels in the couch cushions. 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.800 Someone who's worth one hundred million dollars. Yeah, is a 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.600 lot closer in wealth than you and I to a billionaire. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.720 Right, Like did Joe average walk in the street, dude 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.400 like us? Right? Exactly right. I mean, so if your franchise, 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.120 on average went up one point five billion in a year. 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.199 This is nothing. Don't even look at the numbers anymore. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:54.080 The league is thriving. It's not my money. I mean, 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.040 if mister Rooney or whoever owner doesn't want to give 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.000 players what you know, the market rate, they have every 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:01.560 right to do it. No one can tell me what 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.760 to do with my money either. But the fact that 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:07.840 the league, in all these contracts are blowing people away, 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:10.800 it's still not even keeping up with inflation and what 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:12.880 the value of the league is. It's I'm closed. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.520 The Adam Scheffer stat that you reference there, The average 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:20.120 NFL team is now worth nine point three four billion dollars. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.680 That's up thirty one percent from last year's average, the 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:28.199 biggest biggest year to year gained since the valuations launched 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.400 in twenty twenty. Yeah, that's absolutely wild. 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.520 That's absolutely wild. There are now five and multi billion 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.800 dollar organizations going up thirty one percent. 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:40.280 You said, yeah, thirty one percent. They're the Dallas Cowboys 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.880 now with the highest valuation of fifteen point five billion dollars. 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.839 There are six different NFL teams with over a ten 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.359 billion dollar valuation. 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:49.960 Wow. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.599 And again, if you would have done a valuation for 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:54.840 the Lakers, yeah, it would have probably been nine or 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.840 ten billion. They end up selling for twelve. Right, So 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.200 the Cowboys valuation is fifteen and a half. If marry 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:00.680 Jones and the. 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:04.040 Jones family, I'm taking offers, it would probably be close 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:07.240 to twenty at least fifteen, you know, right, you're right? 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.120 Eighteen twenty right, right, right, So it's one of those 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:11.839 things you can't put a price on it. You're right, 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.920 because you almost can't lose money. I say this all 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:18.320 the time. I mean, when who is that terrible owner 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:19.120 for Washington? 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:20.080 Oh? 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.120 Oh my gosh, I can see why might I not remember? 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.199 No, yeah, everyone knows you're talking about, right, But. 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.520 He bought the team and sold it for fifteen or 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.640 twenty minutes Snyder, Danis Snyder. He bought the team and 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.199 sold it fifteen or twenty years later or whatever it 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:38.360 was for billions of dollars of profit, and couldn't have 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:40.880 been worse at his job. He couldn't have done more 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.400 to make the team worth less and stills killing it. 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.000 Matt, I think you could say the same about the 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.000 owner of our local baseball. 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:51.080 Club, right, think about it, right? 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:56.000 I mean, sports valuations across the board have gone up astronomically, 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.600 especially in the National Football League. That is clearly, by far, 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:05.880 miles and miles ahead, the biggest entertainment vehicle in this country. 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.240 And you're right too to say that that doesn't mean 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:09.640 that owners just have to start throwing out. 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:11.520 Money they want with it. There's still a cap. 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:13.720 But what it also means, and this is something, Arthur, 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:15.400 this is a Motes line I'm about to drop on 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:18.360 you on you here that yesterday's price is not today's price. 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:19.560 Nine closed. 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.360 So just because this defensive tackle last year signed for 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.280 this much and oh my goodness, how can you give 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.720 Benton that much? I don't think Benton's even top fifteen 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:28.840 painted his position. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:30.800 No, I know he's not so right. He's making about 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.280 the same as Wyatt with the Packers who recently signed, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.120 and you know they both have a lot of talent. 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.959 So if you if you're if your reaction is that's 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:40.560 a little bit of a risk. I want to see 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.640 a little bit more from him. I think there is 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.240 more juice to squeeze there. But that's a big commitment 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.720 to make before you see that juice. I can understand that, Lodger, 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:50.920 But if you're like panicking and oh my goodness, why 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:52.760 are they giving this guy all this money, and what 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:53.360 the heck is this? 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:54.320 Yeah, what you're talking about? 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.839 I I think you're missing the forest through the trees. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:58.559 Yeah, I mean because five. 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.560 Years ago, four years ago, three years ago, this would 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:01.800 have been a huge number. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:02.800 Oh, this would have been the same. 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.080 Now it's about a normal number. 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.120 It's a normal number. I mean, I'm old enough. Like 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.360 in the eighties on Sports Illustrated cover first million dollar 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.839 baseball players like Mike Schmid or somebody. You know, Holy cow, 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.600 if someone playing a game is getting a million dollars, 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:17.920 I'm working hard every day. I'm worth more than them. 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.520 They're not. No one goes to see you play, you know, 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.720 like not everyone across the entire country tunes in to 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:27.960 see a backup offensive tackle or edge player help you win, 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.360 because those guys are super valuable, and the next one's 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:31.800 gonna get more, and the next one's gonna get more. 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:36.000 The inflation is it's not my specially. Don't like talking economics, 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.880 but I I think that if you put it into 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:43.440 the the account of if teams are going up by 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:48.679 forty percent, thirty percent on billions to start with an 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:52.480 extra million here or there for defensive tackle means zero. Again, 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.800 it's a dime you found. It's not even the change 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:58.479 in my car, my suv. And this is something you 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.199 walk past a penny and not your if you pick 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:00.560 it up. 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.520 And I also, I think the biggest part of this 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.200 is what he can become. 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:08.800 That's the beauty of it is. 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:11.800 Again, if he, if he if Keanu Betton never takes off, 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.240 and let's even say worst case scenario, he kind of 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.080 takes a step back or plateaus, then you're not thrilled. 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.160 Then you're not thrilled. You're this doesn't completely break your 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.400 salary cap structure, but obviously you're not thrilled. 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:24.320 No, it's not that bad, and it would it'd be a. 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.320 Little not a major setback, but it would certainly be 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.240 a little bit of a setback. But Matt if he 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.400 continues to do what he does, like his first year 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.320 in the league, one sack, second year in the league, 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.400 one sack. Last year he had five and a half. Yeah, 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.960 he went from thirty four and thirty five tackles his 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.640 first two years to fifty one. Last year. He went 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:43.200 from one TfL and two TFLs to six. Last year, 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.320 he went from eight QB hits to twelve quarterback hits. 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.600 Yeah. I mean, if he just has become a very 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:50.880 good interior pass rusher and in their gold. 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:54.680 As we've discussed, if the movement of why a Black 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.600 puts him more in a square peg square hole situation, 0:14:58.080 --> 0:14:59.160 and now he's getting. 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:00.440 And you're gonna live in nickel. He's one of the 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.320 two on there quite a bit. And Cam's up in age, 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:03.880 you know, right. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:05.560 And now he's getting you seven and a half eight 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.640 nine sacks a year. Like you said, all of a sudden, 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:10.160 people would look back on this in a year or 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:12.000 two and go, hey man, that was really good value. 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:13.240 Good thing you locked him up when you did. 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.160 I think the let alone three or four years, and 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:16.080 it's a four year deal. 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.680 The potential for this deal to be a nice bargain 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.920 in a year or two I think greatly outweighs the 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.080 potential for this deal to be a. 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.120 Disaster right in a year two. And we can't even 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.800 discuss injuries because any contract, unfortunately, anyone could blow out 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:31.160 their d at any time, you know, I mean that's 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.640 just the nature of the you know, these investments, they 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:34.800 are risky in that regard. 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:36.720 He's missed one game in three years though. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.280 Right, I mean, I say, he's healthy, he's young. You 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.920 think there's no reason to think decline. In fact, he 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.080 might be on my short list of Steelers ready to 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.280 take the biggest step from last year to this year. 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.320 I mean, we could go through that list. Maybe. I mean, 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.680 that's just off the top of my head. But I 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.160 just think they used it. Like you said, I think 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.840 he's in. I think he's a better and better player. 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:05.240 Scheme team aside, but now if he continues to get 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:09.040 better because he's very talented, I mean, and the scheme 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.160 also helps him as opposed to hurting him. Maybe he 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.360 doesn't play as many snaps, but I think he's going 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:15.960 to be more effective and more valuable. 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.160 Yeah, we've had some of those conversations along the lines 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.360 of you know, who do you think benefits the most 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.040 from the defensive coordinator change from bringing Patrick Graham in? 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.320 And we've talked a lot about the linebackers, and we've 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.440 talked about some maybe Jalen Ramsey type. Sure, maybe Benton 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.480 should have been at the forefront of that conversation too, 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.240 And hopefully we're going to see it here start in September. Yeah, 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.240 there is another big extension around the league that has 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.240 a direct effect to the Pittsburgh Steelers. We're going to 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.600 touch on that and kind of continue this news of 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.560 the day here to get us started, as well as 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.680 getting into obviously plenty of thoughts from the Steelers and 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.240 the Packers on Thursday night. We have a lot to 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:55.480 cover here. On this Saturday afternoon into the evening edition 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.000 of the Drive was Schueler Matt Williamson. We're here with 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.240 you until six o'clock, just getting started on the campus 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.640 of Saint Vincent College. It's all part of our ongoing 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:07.359 training camp coverage Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:13.520 This is live coverage of the twenty twenty six Steelers 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:18.760 Training Camp or the Steelers Audio Network, presented by bud Light, 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:20.760 Easy to Drink, easy. 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.159 To enjoy, and brought to you in part by your. 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:28.760 Neighborhood Ford Store Creator, Pittsburgh Community Food Bank, First National Bank, 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:34.520 Let's Get Started Member FDIC West Shore Home Remodeling Reimagine 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:41.040 by Leecom Digital, Donz Appliances Visit Donzappliances dot Com. Guaranteed 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:46.080 lowest prices, free next day delivery, CGR Wholesale and by 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:51.960 Hoss's Steak and Seahouse hass Is his hospitality. 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.280 Rolling along here with a lot of ground to cover, 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.399 a million different topics to hit on. Matt and I 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.560 were joking during the break, some days out here at 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.800 training camp are a little bit like pulling teeth. 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:02.000 You know. 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.359 Weather moves the practice inside and we don't get to 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:07.720 see anything, so we don't really have anything to talk about, 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:08.760 you know, stuff like that. 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.280 There's not a lot of topics at times. 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.480 But then other times it's like manna from the heavens. 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.320 It's like it's like Christmas morning as a kid. You 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:19.720 just got stuff to unwrap everywhere. Matt, we haven't even 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.800 before we move on to another big extension from one 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.360 of the league's big name cornerbacks and how that affects, 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.240 of course, the Steelers and Joey Porter Junior. We need 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.560 to make sure to stay in chronological order here because 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:34.199 we still haven't discussed the reunion, the addition of veteran 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:38.439 linebacker of Landon Roberts, who reached the Steeler reaching an 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:41.159 agreement with the Steelers on a one year deal just 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.159 before that preseason game on Thursday, I think it was 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.119 Wednesday evening this news broke. If if I'm remembering. 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.199 Correctly, yes, and I like it quite a bit. I'm 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.879 excited to see him, you know. I mean tomorrow practice 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:55.000 is probably the best time to see what he's looking like. 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:58.440 But I love his style of play. I mean, yes, 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.080 he's a limited athlete. He's not the fastest guy. He's 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.880 on a sideline. The sideline, dude. You don't love him 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.080 in coverage or playing in reverse, but he's not awful 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.240 in any of those aspects. He's last in this league 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.719 for a reason. He's not just a big goofy stiff, 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:16.760