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Speaker 1: and poppit a rocket with the best guys. I'm HECKM. Harrison,
Speaker 1: and I gotta introduce my guy. Gotta introduce my guys.
Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels to my right, former ward receiving for the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, I said, staying back a Super Bowl champion
Speaker 1: and also my guy solely be becoming one of my
Speaker 1: favorite people in the whole world. This guy, Jesse Holly,
Speaker 1: is a truth telling me and I love it when
Speaker 1: he's here. But you know he's guys, get one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: The truth is going to be delivered here and hanging
Speaker 1: with the Boys guys, how y'all doing today? I'm good.
Speaker 1: I always love people like, oh yeah, he tells, But
Speaker 1: no one when I tell the truth and I get fired,
Speaker 1: no one is like going back up. No one's like, hey,
Speaker 1: let me cash up you dollar to make sure the
Speaker 1: light bills stick. It's kind of like somebody happy that
Speaker 1: you stand up for yourself, but when you when you
Speaker 1: need to get billed out, nobody's gonna just let's just know.
Speaker 1: When I keep this truth going and they'd say you
Speaker 1: got to go, I gotta go, just you know, let
Speaker 1: let everybody know that, Hey, I'm an take some of
Speaker 1: this money and send it to Jesse because he got bills. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll make that happen. It's on film. It's
Speaker 1: on film. And they told me on the film that
Speaker 1: he was gonna take me. Are you gonna you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, he's gonna allow to be again? So
Speaker 1: I know the pain, give me something. I write that
Speaker 1: with you don't don't put me in there. I experienced
Speaker 1: that sad trauma, all right. And it's speaking of trauma.
Speaker 1: Speaking of trauma, there's a very expensive shoulder in Oxnard,
Speaker 1: California that it's a professional segue. Heck, you know what,
Speaker 1: that's the professional segue. How you put the words together
Speaker 1: and just went from our chaos and then you just
Speaker 1: roll that in. My god, you've had a hell of
Speaker 1: a week. Man, I want to tell you, you've had
Speaker 1: a hell of a week running this show. Brother, you've
Speaker 1: had a You got some teach tape right here, that's week.
Speaker 1: Rather take this week and basking basket and not the people.
Speaker 1: Get it on the flash yeah, get it on the
Speaker 1: flash drive. A second, when they fire your badge the work,
Speaker 1: you gotta get this stuff on the flash drive while
Speaker 1: you still employed. I'm not telling something that I heard.
Speaker 1: You're telling me what you know from experience. When you
Speaker 1: got the goods, get it on the flash yeah, get
Speaker 1: it on the some to the tunnel drive. Because when
Speaker 1: you got when they fire you, your key, don't work.
Speaker 1: Folks being being like walk you out, k they get
Speaker 1: security to start up. Man, you give me a complimenting
Speaker 1: you fired me out in the same say you've had
Speaker 1: a hell of a week. Don't don't don't basking the
Speaker 1: glory without getting it on the flash drive. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get the flash thank you. So going back to my
Speaker 1: trauma and this hundred and sixty million dollars shoulder. Uh.
Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels helped me out, man, because I have my
Speaker 1: hand on the button ready to freak out, and you
Speaker 1: know something that I don't know, So please list well.
Speaker 1: I don't know near as much as you probably know.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of right there with you, though, it's concerned.
Speaker 1: They've said it's a mild strain and it'd be a
Speaker 1: week to which, which what concerns me a little bit
Speaker 1: is McCarthy keeps saying it's a fatigue injury. Well, just
Speaker 1: a couple of days off, no big deal. But if
Speaker 1: you look at strain, a strain is at least a
Speaker 1: week a mild strain even at least a week week
Speaker 1: or two of rest. I think the concern is, you know,
Speaker 1: if I'm a baseball pitcher and I've got a shoulder strain, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that seems serious. They're kind they're kind of talking like
Speaker 1: this is isn't that big a deal? Which quarterbacks got
Speaker 1: to go out there and throw again? You know, how's
Speaker 1: that gonna work? Well, look, there's something different about you, man.
Speaker 1: I can't put my finger on it, doggy, What's what's
Speaker 1: going on with it? I can't YouTube man did Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I had a little chop man. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't want Jesse to feel, you know, inferior to
Speaker 1: me with the long hair. So I said, you know,
Speaker 1: since we're on the same set for a little bit,
Speaker 1: I figured I cut my hair so you had a
Speaker 1: long hair. Hair Immediately, I immediately, I immediately regretted asking
Speaker 1: you that question because you know what, because coming from
Speaker 1: a ball guy, yeah, I don't have hair cover you got,
Speaker 1: you got hair follicles you get somewhere in there. I
Speaker 1: mean I've been shaving this done for about twenty years. Anyway, listen, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get out of that. Um. Yeah, So I just
Speaker 1: happened to play this position of quarterback for a long time.
Speaker 1: And um, you know, prior to being drafted by the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I played quarterback although through college and then I played
Speaker 1: for the New England Pages as a backup. Obviously I
Speaker 1: didn't touch the field because there was some dude named
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in front of me. He's all right. But
Speaker 1: through all my years of playing quarterback, through all my
Speaker 1: sore shoulders from throwing the reps from fatigue, I never
Speaker 1: injured my throwing shoulder or you know, had a set
Speaker 1: back in my throwing should and that that needed that
Speaker 1: required an MRI. Now, I wasn't a one hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty million dollar arm either, I didn't have that. However,
Speaker 1: I was valuable to my university and I never needed
Speaker 1: an MRI from my shoulder to say that I had
Speaker 1: a strange shoulder. Now, I might have needed a day off,
Speaker 1: I might have been a little fatigue, might needed an
Speaker 1: ice bath. Strange shoulders. There are a lot of intricacies
Speaker 1: when it comes to the shoulder. I've had three left
Speaker 1: shoulder surgeries, not in my throwing arm, but in my
Speaker 1: opposing arm, and shoulder suck. Shoulder sucks. So when you
Speaker 1: try to minimize something, um that is good. That is
Speaker 1: literally the entire town, entire state of Texas is really
Speaker 1: reliant on his shoulder. It's it's very um. It's worrisome,
Speaker 1: for sure. It's worrisome because of the fact that they're
Speaker 1: trying to write it off as something might and it
Speaker 1: very well might be. But I can tell you from
Speaker 1: somebody who's had a lot of injuries and the titter
Speaker 1: shoulder is not as simple as they may be making
Speaker 1: the scene. Fatigue. I don't associate a fatigue, throwing arm
Speaker 1: with m no that ramps it up a little for me.
Speaker 1: Never played quarterback like at a literally like a seriously
Speaker 1: high level, never had shoulder fatigue. I've had fatigue. I
Speaker 1: haven't had fatigue after three days. I haven't had to
Speaker 1: go get an MRI forte fatigue. But then it takes
Speaker 1: me back and I go, okay, Well, I started looking
Speaker 1: at the injury history of Dak Prescott and I flashed
Speaker 1: back to twenty nineteen when he injured his throng shoulder,
Speaker 1: and at that time we were told it was just
Speaker 1: kind of a strained slash bruising that he had in
Speaker 1: the shoulder, and we saw what that outcome was when
Speaker 1: I think they played the Eagles. Yes, didn't look too well,
Speaker 1: didn't look like a guy who was confident, and it
Speaker 1: didn't let a guy who could throw the ball at
Speaker 1: all very much in that in that football game. I
Speaker 1: don't want to push the red button. I do want
Speaker 1: to give benefit of the doubt and say, let's give
Speaker 1: it a couple of days, because if he's not thrown,
Speaker 1: if in a couple of days, if by monday, if
Speaker 1: by Monday, now they're saying, well, we're gonna need the rushi.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna giveim a couple more days. Now, let's ring
Speaker 1: the alarms, because that then tells me is something far
Speaker 1: more than just a strain slash fatigue. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna cut him some bail. I'm gonna cut
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, I'm gonna cut that some bail and say,
Speaker 1: you got it, fatigue. I don't think exactly you said
Speaker 1: a couple of days. That's from McCarthy said, Yeah, told
Speaker 1: me a couple of days. And even in his even
Speaker 1: in his he'said a couple a few, you know, give me,
Speaker 1: give me some credit. So I'm gonna give you that.
Speaker 1: So this happened when Wednesday. Yes, so I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you five days, six days. That's that's more than a
Speaker 1: few or a couple. If by next Monday or Tuesday,
Speaker 1: when we come back and we do our show, we're
Speaker 1: hearing that Dak isn't throwing in practice or he's still
Speaker 1: just doing drills and not throwing. Now, let's you know
Speaker 1: that that over the button had like that little plaster,
Speaker 1: Let's slift that up. Let's lift that up and and
Speaker 1: hover around that panic button Likeeody like Jeopardy, like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's hover around it because it's it's it's we're on,
Speaker 1: we're on close to Yeah, what does this do? Like physically,
Speaker 1: he's set back, he's got to take some time off.
Speaker 1: What does this do for the offense as a whole?
Speaker 1: Not having him out there? They know, they know what
Speaker 1: it is. They know what it is. We don't know
Speaker 1: officially what it is, but they know. But does it
Speaker 1: does it hurt them? Not getting the reps with Dak?
Speaker 1: It's not the it's not. Here's the biggest thing when
Speaker 1: you talk about offense, because offense takes a little bit
Speaker 1: more time to come along than was about yesterday, then
Speaker 1: defense does. It's for the new guys, I need to
Speaker 1: hear the cadence. I need to hear the rhythm, the
Speaker 1: tempo because you white eighty why they like that's tempo,
Speaker 1: that's cadence and you you beginning to pick that up
Speaker 1: and you know how long your quarterback holds his wide
Speaker 1: eighty Yeah, you know how that goes so as a
Speaker 1: receiver or as a tight end, even as a tackle
Speaker 1: or guard, as a center snapping the ball. I know
Speaker 1: that that white aighty Why, I know how he holds
Speaker 1: that I know when it's gonna come. I need to
Speaker 1: hear him in the huddle. I need to hear the
Speaker 1: chains at the line of scrimmen. So as far as
Speaker 1: those things, you don't have your guy under center and
Speaker 1: you want that rhythm, you want that temple. There's also
Speaker 1: plays that Kelly Moore want to work through. You may
Speaker 1: be debuting, you may want to you know, I know
Speaker 1: I played for my time in Dallas. Jason Garrett was
Speaker 1: my offensive coordinator. Then he became my head coach, and
Speaker 1: he had this model of you know, I have to
Speaker 1: see a play two or three times in practice, run
Speaker 1: it two or three days in practice before I consider
Speaker 1: putting that play in the game and the game plan.
Speaker 1: And so if they're something that they have saw in
Speaker 1: the office, they want to work. They want to work
Speaker 1: now Tony Pollard and Zeke Elli in the backfield at
Speaker 1: the same time, or motioning guys out, or have any
Speaker 1: different sets. You want to be able to have the
Speaker 1: guy at the helm who you're gonna have when you
Speaker 1: gotta go play Tampa Bay. Kind of running these things
Speaker 1: to see how what's going to look. So your evaluation
Speaker 1: of this play is one that you can go back
Speaker 1: and say I like it, I don't like it. Let's
Speaker 1: tweak it, let's try this, let's go this way, let's
Speaker 1: go that way. And when you don't have them, those
Speaker 1: things you miss out on during the practice time. And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm hurt. I'm worried about what you're talking about,
Speaker 1: the continuity of this offense and it has to and
Speaker 1: for you, guys, I know, it's just like, look, there's
Speaker 1: certain things like the his voice, his cadence and all
Speaker 1: of those things, but just knowing how much time he's missing,
Speaker 1: how much time he's been away and getting this offense
Speaker 1: back running, and not only that, I mean with all
Speaker 1: of the pieces that you're missing, and you're trying to
Speaker 1: bring guys in on the rhythm of Kellen Moore's offense
Speaker 1: and without your main peace sitting there, does that cause
Speaker 1: you to concern? Because the caveat to that is just
Speaker 1: like last year when you signed Andy Dalton, you had
Speaker 1: no thought in your mind that he would actually play
Speaker 1: the lion's share of the season, right, So now you're
Speaker 1: in a situation where you're obviously you're getting an opportunity
Speaker 1: to look at your backups and from everything that I've
Speaker 1: heard out of Oxnard is not good. So I believe
Speaker 1: this is more of a morale and an energy thing
Speaker 1: more than more than anything. Right. So if what they're
Speaker 1: telling us in terms of how many days he needs
Speaker 1: and requires in order to get back because to get
Speaker 1: over the soreness, right, it's fatigue, it's true, then guess what,
Speaker 1: there's no issues. There's no new guys on offense, right,
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't have anybody new on offense, So
Speaker 1: everybody knows who that is. They had OTA's with them, right,
Speaker 1: which they didn't have last year, So that that's helpful.
Speaker 1: So I'm not worried about the reps so per se.
Speaker 1: If it doesn't if it if it stays within a week,
Speaker 1: as long as it stays within a week, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not concerned. Now, if what we're being told it's
Speaker 1: not necessarily true and it's a little bit more in
Speaker 1: depth in that, then you can start raising some flags.
Speaker 1: Then you can start having some concerns in that regard.
Speaker 1: I'm more so worried about the momentum of this team
Speaker 1: and the energy and the excitement that's behind the offense
Speaker 1: and the effect that that has. Now we sit here
Speaker 1: and we don't have all the information when we're when
Speaker 1: you're in the in the locker room, you see the
Speaker 1: guys going in the training room, you know what's you know,
Speaker 1: how serious or you know or not something may be.
Speaker 1: So they understand. So that will have an effect over
Speaker 1: how the energy really rolls. If it's more if it's
Speaker 1: more serious than what we're being told, then you will
Speaker 1: see that result in practice in terms of just being
Speaker 1: a crappy practice. Yeah. Now, the backup quarterback position, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about that because again, you guys know
Speaker 1: how important it was and just basically judging off of
Speaker 1: last season with the carousel that we had from the
Speaker 1: offensive line and the quarterback position. Garrett Gilbert, d Nucci,
Speaker 1: Coop Rush, guys, you get to turn and look, I
Speaker 1: say those names and Jesse, you think what or screwed?
Speaker 1: Just not a little bit, a whole a lot of bit.
Speaker 1: And that's not that's for every NFL football team. Like
Speaker 1: your backup quarterback, what you look for in the backup
Speaker 1: is that a guy that can go win me again
Speaker 1: if I have to go a three game four game
Speaker 1: stretch because of something catastrophic, right, like the injury is
Speaker 1: like like the anchor injury last year was crazy, that's
Speaker 1: super catastrophic. But if I got a bump shoulder or
Speaker 1: a knee or an ankle, canna and we gotta go
Speaker 1: four games. Can you get me the two and two.
Speaker 1: If you can get me, If you can get me
Speaker 1: the five hundred, you have earned your pay for the year.
Speaker 1: If you get me the three and one, you have superseded.
Speaker 1: You're paid for the year. If you get me too
Speaker 1: four and oh get to check you have listen, you
Speaker 1: get the Christmas card and a Christmas bonus. The backup
Speaker 1: position isn't something because we're all talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: improve the backup. I don't want to see the backup.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't ever want to see the backup,
Speaker 1: and no team does. You forgot the backups whoever you
Speaker 1: know put them all together out there. I don't care. Um,
Speaker 1: But if we have to go to the back and
Speaker 1: we have guys, we have a month before we get
Speaker 1: to the season. We got a month. Even if the
Speaker 1: shoulder injury is a little bit more than what it is,
Speaker 1: we still got about a month before we get to
Speaker 1: the season. Dad can round in the form to get
Speaker 1: ready to go for the season. If he has to
Speaker 1: miss significantly my time through training camp. But if we
Speaker 1: had to get to the season with one of those guys,
Speaker 1: then we're screwed. I don't like the quarterback. I don't
Speaker 1: like our backup quarterback situation. You know, injury or not.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously you get a backup because you're preparing
Speaker 1: right for the what ifs. And I don't feel better
Speaker 1: last year. I felt better absolutely with any Dalton. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I like any door. I still like any dog difference,
Speaker 1: Absolutely experience, experience, because was the thing that you fear most.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily skill set, it's not it's not potential
Speaker 1: that you're worried about when you get When you have
Speaker 1: a back of the quarterback, you worried about him being
Speaker 1: able to manage the dog on game. Can he get
Speaker 1: in and manage the game? Can he run the timber?
Speaker 1: Or can he get this offense? How much of it?
Speaker 1: How much of a play called difference woout to have
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore? Does he have to have a whole new
Speaker 1: package or can I call the same game I've been
Speaker 1: called and preparing for it for the last two or
Speaker 1: three weeks? Right? What what do I have to change?
Speaker 1: And it's the team gonna respect him. If I step
Speaker 1: in the huddle, it's Jessie gonna look at me and
Speaker 1: be like, I'm not gonna Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's what you look for. So when I look at this,
Speaker 1: I think Gary Gilbert could throw the rock right. I
Speaker 1: think he was a little nervous because of the offensive
Speaker 1: line situation last year. So if there's anybody I feel
Speaker 1: confident in to some regard, it's him. But I don't
Speaker 1: like our situation. And now you factor in the fact
Speaker 1: that getting worried out of any Napolis that Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: is now hurt himself. If there is somebody out there now,
Speaker 1: depending on how serious you know this injury may be,
Speaker 1: there's more than one team looking for a backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: Now what is it? I just totally lost my threat.
Speaker 1: Turning thought, I guess is it better to have the
Speaker 1: guy like Gilbert who's been here a year and a half.
Speaker 1: He knows the system a lot better than bringing in
Speaker 1: somebody dude new like isn't like bottles on the street.
Speaker 1: Is that a guy? Would you rather have him with
Speaker 1: the experience or would you rather have a guy who
Speaker 1: showed a little promise you know, but knows the system better.
Speaker 1: I don't know this system. I haven't been here. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe you probably know a bit more than
Speaker 1: me as far as like Killer Moore system. I don't
Speaker 1: know how complicated it is to learn. And now if
Speaker 1: this was like a New England, like we know, that
Speaker 1: is a freaking complicated offense, like just just two. So
Speaker 1: I can't speak on that per se, but typically you
Speaker 1: would say, hey, the person that would that's that's been
Speaker 1: here right just for just for a safe reason. The
Speaker 1: guys know him, you know, he has a rapport with everybody.
Speaker 1: But when you start looking and that okay, now, if
Speaker 1: there's something that keeps Dak out for more than a week, Okay,
Speaker 1: now we have back to back injury issues, back to
Speaker 1: back years. We need somebody who's talented enough to carry
Speaker 1: this team forward, who can step in. He's not Dak,
Speaker 1: but he's talented enough to come and take the rain.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of my take on that. I just
Speaker 1: don't know if there's anybody on the street that's going
Speaker 1: to be that much better than a guy who's here
Speaker 1: who kind of knows the system and that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: And please, no one texts me Tony Romo, And I
Speaker 1: know it sounds I know it sounds crazy, but there
Speaker 1: will be people who can tweet me and say, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's enough to Tony Roman getting training campus, don't Tony
Speaker 1: is getting paid talking, Yeah, Tony is getting Tony is
Speaker 1: getting paid as much as a starting quarterback. Absolutely to
Speaker 1: play golf six days a week, he wouldn't do it, like, no, no,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't do it. But among among the headlines of
Speaker 1: injuries coming out of Oxnard, one of the ones that
Speaker 1: hadn't been talked about a lot is Amark Cooper. Amark Cooper,
Speaker 1: Tank Lawrence. And these are your core guys, this is
Speaker 1: these are your horses. You're gonna be relying on these
Speaker 1: guys throughout the season. Does does that cause any concerns
Speaker 1: for you? I know you guys, you know have been
Speaker 1: through and seeing guys come back from from serge. You
Speaker 1: have to work with Britt Brown, and you've talked extensively
Speaker 1: about that's not a vacation. He's just not sitting up
Speaker 1: in camp shilling. Uh so. But but those two guys,
Speaker 1: does it give you any concern knowing that they are
Speaker 1: centerpieces on your offense and your defense, Nope, nope, not
Speaker 1: at all, not from my perspective for not these guys.
Speaker 1: Not these guys, because these guys are playing and play
Speaker 1: you know what you're getting out of them when they're
Speaker 1: on the field. You there's no question marks. You know what,
Speaker 1: d law, you gotta get a one hundred percent effort.
Speaker 1: He's gonna come off the edge, he's gonna be a
Speaker 1: dog coop. He's one of the best route runners in
Speaker 1: the league. You know he has a report with a
Speaker 1: quarterback or a quarterback already. You know he's your number
Speaker 1: one guy. So there's no question marks there. Healthwise, he
Speaker 1: has the best training staff, He's had the best treatment
Speaker 1: all offseason. At this point, I look at this in
Speaker 1: terms of them starting off on pup ass just getting
Speaker 1: giving more guys opportunity to come on to your roster
Speaker 1: for camp, getting more eyes if you if you if
Speaker 1: you don't have them on pup, there's two less guys
Speaker 1: that you look at during camp. If I put in
Speaker 1: them pup, they're not gonna play in your preseason games.
Speaker 1: They're not very very they're not They're the reps that
Speaker 1: they're gonna be getting in camp. Aren't that valuable? Right?
Speaker 1: So let them chill. I'm up for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Let some other guys get get some looking on at
Speaker 1: some other guys get through a couple of preseason games,
Speaker 1: and then take them off pupping, let's go to work.
Speaker 1: And they're concerned though, that both of these guys injuries
Speaker 1: are recurring. I mean, you know, Cooper's battled an ankle
Speaker 1: now for at least couple of years, and ankles pretty
Speaker 1: important for receiver on those cuts. And the same thing
Speaker 1: with Lawrence. He's had back issues in the past and
Speaker 1: he's got to bang up against those three hundred pound tackles.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a concern that part of it.
Speaker 1: You'd be So there's so many injuries that are not reported.
Speaker 1: I can say that right here and Jesse have pure
Speaker 1: pretty Shure has my back. There's so many injuries and
Speaker 1: things that guys have to deal with after their careers. Hey,
Speaker 1: guess what my ankles jacked up all through in my career.
Speaker 1: When I'm done, I'll get a real surgery that's gonna
Speaker 1: shove me down right, Or I guess what guys have
Speaker 1: back injuries? I have. I got two bulgs in disc
Speaker 1: right now that kick my butt every single day, Right,
Speaker 1: But guess what, you play that during your career, right,
Speaker 1: You just play with it and you just deal with it.
Speaker 1: And then afterwards and it's like, oh crap, oh not
Speaker 1: working out every day like I used to. You know,
Speaker 1: my back hurts, you know. So yeah, they're recurring. But
Speaker 1: there's I would say probably seventy percent of the roster
Speaker 1: has something that needs to be taken care of when
Speaker 1: their career is done that they're just dealing with. So
Speaker 1: I'm not concerned because I can still do their job.
Speaker 1: And these reps that they're missing, they need to miss
Speaker 1: these reps because they need that time to get healthy.
Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp, he had an interesting post maybe like a
Speaker 1: week or two ago. He went in and had hip surgery,
Speaker 1: and he said to himself, like he was saying he
Speaker 1: was he was in his post he said he was
Speaker 1: dealing with this hip injury for a while, and he
Speaker 1: said mentally, he's just been so used to dealing with pain.
Speaker 1: He just said, you know, I just thought, like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll just take some medicine and I'll just keep going.
Speaker 1: I'll just keep pushing myself. And then he said that
Speaker 1: he woke up in one and just says Shannon, you
Speaker 1: know you don't have to deal with this pain like
Speaker 1: you do. Know you can go get surgery and get
Speaker 1: this fix, get this fix and be pain free. And
Speaker 1: he said, he said a little had an epiphany, like
Speaker 1: but guys are so used to dealing with the pain.
Speaker 1: You just deal with it and you just go all right,
Speaker 1: I'll be fine, I'll work it off. You know it'll
Speaker 1: get better. All just you build this tolerance for pain
Speaker 1: for so long because mentally you've been trained that if
Speaker 1: it's not really hurt, if it's not stopping me from
Speaker 1: doing what I gotta do, I'll just deal with it.
Speaker 1: And and you build up this tolerance, like you said,
Speaker 1: like I got two you got two bowls. And Dixon,
Speaker 1: my hip has been hurting like the last month, right,
Speaker 1: and I just be like, oh, well whatever, it's okay,
Speaker 1: you know, because you're just so your your train of
Speaker 1: thought is to do this. And for me, with with
Speaker 1: with these two guys, the back will never get better.
Speaker 1: You'll only be able to manage the back. There's no
Speaker 1: surgery that makes your back better. It just allows you
Speaker 1: to go ahead and deal with less of the pain
Speaker 1: while you're while you're playing. And it's the same thing
Speaker 1: with Coop's ankle. You know, get it cleaned up. Every
Speaker 1: single year. He'll have ankle pain for the rest of
Speaker 1: his life. So at this point right now, is I'd
Speaker 1: rather slow walk these guys because of their value. And
Speaker 1: it's the same thing with dak. If if missing a
Speaker 1: month of camp means I have them a month later
Speaker 1: in the season, then by all means let's do that.
Speaker 1: Let's let's do that, and I'll let them use the
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Speaker 1: of shape, uh, into some sort of football ship. Amark Cooper,
Speaker 1: He's gonna be fine. You know why. He gets open,
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Speaker 1: people in my head talking answering phones and I'm talking
Speaker 1: to y'all at the same time. So let's go. They
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Man. And
Speaker 1: so guys, beginning of the second segment here and hanging
Speaker 1: with the boys, and we'd been, you know, obviously talking
Speaker 1: about injuries that are happening in camp. But guys, I
Speaker 1: want to get to who you think are our bubble guys.
Speaker 1: And I think this is important because the guy that
Speaker 1: can actually add to this conversation is on the phone,
Speaker 1: someone that you know very well. Jesse live on the
Speaker 1: phone with us from aston ardor somewhere on the highway
Speaker 1: drive and this is highway name. Hey, what's going on? Nate? Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? Man? I'm going on highway thirty times that
Speaker 1: I found it and I'm going on to the Los
Speaker 1: Andres National Forest. Man. I gotta hidden lake and I
Speaker 1: like to just go few. Man. It gives me peace, man,
Speaker 1: to know that I did Jessel right way and trying
Speaker 1: to raise him. You didn't do be the right way.
Speaker 1: That lake should not give you peace because I should
Speaker 1: be with you. Ask me, fine, this is a lake.
Speaker 1: So I didn't take too y. I need a little
Speaker 1: piece of my life and finding the hidden lake in
Speaker 1: California would have brought me that. But instead you're selfish
Speaker 1: and you went by yourself. I'm not selfing, Jess. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Why can I do to make it up here? Sure?
Speaker 1: Nate even takes his wife on these road trip he know,
Speaker 1: we know. Yeah, quiet man, what are you guys doing? Man?
Speaker 1: What are y'all talking about? Man? We're talking about guys
Speaker 1: on the bubble? Nate and so we had a few
Speaker 1: guys that we wanted to go over with you. But
Speaker 1: I'll ask you, man, since you've been there, and who
Speaker 1: for for you? Especially with the fans expecting a certain
Speaker 1: amount of guys or stars to make the team, who
Speaker 1: are some big names that you're seeing with the competition
Speaker 1: that are firmly placed on the bubble right now? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know, you know, I don't I don't have no
Speaker 1: bubble guys, because I try to stay open at this
Speaker 1: point to to to anybody making it, because this team
Speaker 1: has a history of guys uh building more momentum, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like wow, he made the roster.
Speaker 1: So I'm just waiting to see who catch you on fire.
Speaker 1: But you know what I but I'm getting a field
Speaker 1: is a lot of people trying to take Noah Brown
Speaker 1: out of this scene. They trying to make it where
Speaker 1: this guy don't don't don't make it for some reason
Speaker 1: because one of the other receivers aside show N's head,
Speaker 1: the Malik Turners of the world. You know, they're looking
Speaker 1: good at the draft picks. They're looking good. So all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, my man is just getting getting you know,
Speaker 1: nor it's getting taken out of the picture. He's a
Speaker 1: special teams guy and he's a great blocker. I know
Speaker 1: that man, I mean much in today's NFL with the Cowboyds,
Speaker 1: but that is an asset in the league. And then
Speaker 1: another guy I'm thinking man is Maurice Kennedy. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know how they feel about him, but every
Speaker 1: time you turn around, he's batting balls down. He's getting
Speaker 1: the interceptions, you know, And I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: a bubble guy, but he's he's got to be in
Speaker 1: the mix. He's got to be in the mix. Now,
Speaker 1: if you're saying that, if Maurice Kennedy is showing out,
Speaker 1: then that would make George Jay Lew potential bubble guy
Speaker 1: because he's been hurt for the last couple of practices
Speaker 1: that have given Maurice Kennedy an opportunity to make these impressions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot of people. Man. When you
Speaker 1: got ninety guys and you're trying to focus on on
Speaker 1: one or two guys, it's just hard to do, man.
Speaker 1: But everybody. I talked to Dan Quinn and uh, he said,
Speaker 1: you know, his biggest thing now is just trying to
Speaker 1: give every guy an equal rep at a different at
Speaker 1: a different package, and just to see where everybody fit. Man.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, man, it's so many corners, there's
Speaker 1: so many safeties. And with them bringing in this new guy, well,
Speaker 1: I can't think of the name right now, just so
Speaker 1: many who that no Malik Malik, They'm bringing in Malik. Uh,
Speaker 1: It's just hard to tell, man. And to these to
Speaker 1: everybody is healthy and everybody's out there trying to perform.
Speaker 1: You just don't know. I mean, who are some of
Speaker 1: the bubble guys y'all are thinking about? But I had
Speaker 1: a question for Nate that yesterday Stephen Jones said that, um,
Speaker 1: there's like sixty five guys and right now who can
Speaker 1: make the fifty three roster? Do you think that's true?
Speaker 1: Are they really? Because that seems like a lot of
Speaker 1: times from guys go to camp, there's maybe one or
Speaker 1: two premature statement too. No. No, The reason I think
Speaker 1: he says this is because our defense is new. Our
Speaker 1: defense is new, and I defensive coordinator's new, and he's
Speaker 1: fought in a certain amount of guys that he wants
Speaker 1: to make this team. Uh. You know the KZ guy
Speaker 1: uh is doing big things that defense. He got an
Speaker 1: interception in a bat down yesterday. So with with have
Speaker 1: been a new defensive coordinator with a with a new mindset.
Speaker 1: And when I talked to coach Dan Quinn, he was
Speaker 1: so big on Joseph Hamilton, he was big on Bohanna
Speaker 1: and the big kid out of Kentucky, you know he
Speaker 1: and I asked, well, how do you planning to play
Speaker 1: these guys? He say during the preseason. I'm hoping that
Speaker 1: every basic nickel or not nickel package, but every base
Speaker 1: uh base defense. Well, I want these guys in firsts
Speaker 1: can down. I want to really see what they can
Speaker 1: do it give themselves a chance to be on this
Speaker 1: roster so it can be a different looking roster. Defensively,
Speaker 1: we know what the offense holds, we know who these
Speaker 1: guys is, but coach really believes that by them giving
Speaker 1: him a league way doing the draft to have about
Speaker 1: nine ten eleven guys drafted, he had to present them
Speaker 1: mister Jones on why okay, we don't need this office player.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I can do with this player.
Speaker 1: And I know every coach does that, and every Scott
Speaker 1: does that, projects and has a plan of how they
Speaker 1: want to see these players perform. But they're really giving
Speaker 1: him a freedom to move around and a freedom to say,
Speaker 1: these are the guys that we want. So a lot
Speaker 1: of these guys on this roster that they're new guys anyway,
Speaker 1: first year, second year guys, rookies, free agents. The only
Speaker 1: hole overs is what our linebackers one defensive to a
Speaker 1: couple of defense events. Everybody else is basically new. I
Speaker 1: mean you don't hear a lot of by Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: but they like him in the slot. All he has
Speaker 1: to do is from form and he'll be okay, all
Speaker 1: all like like Anthony Brown. Okay, this guy's making plays
Speaker 1: after they just showed up the other day, you know
Speaker 1: with the pans on. He just like, oh the Brown,
Speaker 1: that's number thirty. So uh, it can be a difference. Uh,
Speaker 1: and and and on the defense offensive, we know who
Speaker 1: we are, we know where they know who they are
Speaker 1: going from guys that are on the bubble to a
Speaker 1: guy that we know is his spots solidified, but right
Speaker 1: now he's out with a fatigue injury. From your standpoint
Speaker 1: with boots on the ground, we heard Mike McCarthy said
Speaker 1: about that just missing a few days because of fatigue.
Speaker 1: What is your feel for that situation is something that
Speaker 1: we believe because we we we've been we were falling
Speaker 1: for the bland Ntel piper couple, bamboo bamboos. Enough they
Speaker 1: give when they give us these reports about timelines in
Speaker 1: the in the in the severity of injuries. From what
Speaker 1: you've seen, do you think it's just a couple of
Speaker 1: days or does it look like it could potentially be
Speaker 1: a little bit more than what they're leading on or
Speaker 1: leading us to believe. Okay, this is what the day
Speaker 1: that he had his injury, right, Okay, he came out
Speaker 1: there and did a six thirty deal, this time with
Speaker 1: the TV media. He did that for about an hour.
Speaker 1: Then we was all going in lunch and he pulls
Speaker 1: up next to me and Shannon. We're on the car.
Speaker 1: He pulls up next to us kind of racing us.
Speaker 1: I'm like, if this guy has really hurt, they wouldn't
Speaker 1: be letting him on this little bicycle racing us next
Speaker 1: side by side. And then the next day he went
Speaker 1: through all of the motions with the quarterbacks, through the ropes,
Speaker 1: jumping up and down during the fake um uh, you
Speaker 1: know how they're trying to act make they got somebody
Speaker 1: rushing up. How they he faked that. I don't know
Speaker 1: how they do that from side to side. But anyway,
Speaker 1: but he did everything, and he even put his hands
Speaker 1: up in the air. But he never threw a ball.
Speaker 1: He never threw a ball. I saw him toss a
Speaker 1: few balls underhanded. I just think if it was a lost,
Speaker 1: if it was serious, I wouldn't I would think they
Speaker 1: were just having on the sideline, helmet off, doing nothing,
Speaker 1: but they letting him do everything except throw the ball.
Speaker 1: And now with the day off, we'll see when tomorrow come,
Speaker 1: let's see what they see, what they allowed him to do.
Speaker 1: And I'll be glad to call you, guys, or whatever
Speaker 1: it is to let y'all know it. Just call then
Speaker 1: I'll let you know what I see. But seemed like
Speaker 1: to me he's smiling. Yesterday he got slammed with a cake.
Speaker 1: Buy his offensive limber. He used his right hand and
Speaker 1: wipe all the cake off his face. So I mean, hey, man,
Speaker 1: did he wave to the crowd with his right hand?
Speaker 1: So a guy? That just what? I just don't think
Speaker 1: that when you give a guy a type of money
Speaker 1: they have given him and they have bestowed, then you
Speaker 1: are truly our keenan leader. I don't think. I think
Speaker 1: if it was anything serious, they would not have him
Speaker 1: out there doing the things that he's doing. Interesting, feel it, Nick, No,
Speaker 1: I was up men as Isaiah, how you doing good
Speaker 1: to hear your voice, man, I appreciate the insight from
Speaker 1: down there. You be in our eyes and ears down there,
Speaker 1: But in terms of you know, this conversation we're having
Speaker 1: as far as guys that are potentially on the bubble
Speaker 1: at this point in camp. Now, obviously we noticed maybe
Speaker 1: a premature conversation, but I know as soon as we
Speaker 1: have as soon as we bring this topic up, the
Speaker 1: first thing that comes in my mind is the receiver
Speaker 1: position and somebody that may have been drafted this year
Speaker 1: in the name of Semi for Hoko, and I am worried.
Speaker 1: I want to I don't. I don't want to put
Speaker 1: him on notice, but I want him his antennas to
Speaker 1: go up to let him notice. And the rest assured
Speaker 1: that as a fifth round draft pick with the team
Speaker 1: at this position that's so deep that the receiver position,
Speaker 1: that your spot is not secure, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: get you're insight to see what your thoughts are with that.
Speaker 1: And far as that number five, number six, but receiver position,
Speaker 1: he has made some plays. Uh he's caught involving this
Speaker 1: when they're thrown into him. But but like I tell people, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, back in the day, will be hard for
Speaker 1: a filth rounder to make the team. And the five
Speaker 1: guys I got making the team, will he'd be a
Speaker 1: six guy that they would take a chance and going
Speaker 1: through waivers and putting on the practice squad. I don't know,
Speaker 1: we just have to get a little more work in.
Speaker 1: He's he looks good. And I heard Budget Brooks saying
Speaker 1: he don't look as big in person as he did
Speaker 1: when he was in school. And I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: but he's a big kid. But he got some bounce
Speaker 1: to him. Man. When they playing all that music. Man,
Speaker 1: the brothers ain't got nothing on this dude. Man, And
Speaker 1: you'd be founding and flowing with him. So he's spitting
Speaker 1: right in. He's catching the balls when they're throwing to him.
Speaker 1: So we'll see about your guy. Man, all right, julian
Speaker 1: Us live here at the SWBC Mortgage Studios is Nate
Speaker 1: Newton from Parts Unknown out in Oxnard, California. No, you
Speaker 1: said you're at a hidden lake. You're going to a
Speaker 1: hidden lake. Inn to a hidden lake. Man, I'll be
Speaker 1: driving to a looking at these communities. Instead of looking
Speaker 1: at the towns, I'm looking at in the name of
Speaker 1: the towns. And I'm justide in front of some pet
Speaker 1: story camouflaged I'm out somewhere, man, I'm just having fun. Well, Nate, look,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you that the offensive line right now,
Speaker 1: Conor mc governor and Couna Williams that they are not
Speaker 1: in a position battle, but you're hearing a lot about
Speaker 1: Connor Williams working in at the center position as well.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Connor mc governor and the
Speaker 1: job that he's doing, and also how do you feel
Speaker 1: about Conor Williams and that switch possibly to center. I
Speaker 1: watched I watched Connel Williams at center and people, you know,
Speaker 1: people said, well, you know, I've been telling you it's
Speaker 1: early in Caunt. He needs to hurry up because he
Speaker 1: needs to understand that we can't have the ball on
Speaker 1: the ground, we can't have it going over guy's head.
Speaker 1: To want to help the team and to be able
Speaker 1: to help the team, it's two different things. He's still
Speaker 1: that same guy as getting pushed back. Who's you know,
Speaker 1: he's just an all right guy. He's he's just an
Speaker 1: all right guy. You know. He's a better guard, you know.
Speaker 1: And uh, I haven't watched a lot of Connor because
Speaker 1: I've been watching the other guy, number seventy nine, Nisky,
Speaker 1: I think it's his name. I have watched him all
Speaker 1: day yesterday, But he's Connor. I loved it when they
Speaker 1: drafted him I was one of his biggest fans and
Speaker 1: I'm still I still am because he's a dependable guy.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that can plug in at one position,
Speaker 1: but as a backup center, I just don't know they've
Speaker 1: been working. Braylon James the one of the young guys
Speaker 1: at center too. And it's just after we get past
Speaker 1: our first team center. Man who it's scary, Man, it's scary.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a as a roller coaster ride, Nate.
Speaker 1: I was asking going to ask you about tar Nevsky
Speaker 1: and some of the tackles. I mean, the team normally
Speaker 1: keeps four, I think, and right now behind Collins and Smith,
Speaker 1: you got Terrence Steele, Brandon Knight, Netsky sorry'm Bruchner's name,
Speaker 1: and the kid they drafted, Josh Ball. I mean, you
Speaker 1: got some young guys there, and Steele and Knight who
Speaker 1: saw a lot of action last year. I know they
Speaker 1: struggled at times, but you know they're ten years younger
Speaker 1: than Netsky, and they're you know, they're half half his paycheck,
Speaker 1: I think is half is what they're paying him. So
Speaker 1: I mean, is who among those guys, those backup tackles,
Speaker 1: who do you think might be on the bubble there.
Speaker 1: Steele has been very consistent. He's in very consistent. Uh
Speaker 1: night is okay? U? And I watched the guy you know,
Speaker 1: uh stomach seventy nine. I hope in the nisky. I
Speaker 1: hope I'm pronouncing it right. He looked it okay. I
Speaker 1: mean he looked more than okay. He held up against
Speaker 1: Gregory yesterday. Gregor was trying to take to him, and
Speaker 1: I think he got him on maybe one or two
Speaker 1: times on maybe thirty maybe fifteen snaps or twenty snaps.
Speaker 1: So and he did good against our best him. I
Speaker 1: don't know how good he is. We need a preseason
Speaker 1: to see how good he is. But he's working so
Speaker 1: right now. I think number seventy nine, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to. I can't pronounce his name right. Number
Speaker 1: seventy nine doing a better job still would be next.
Speaker 1: And then Josh Ball needs work. He needs to know
Speaker 1: that he's dealing with grown men in college. A lot
Speaker 1: of times guys be catching a Guys should dominate their
Speaker 1: college opponents. And when you're dealing with grown men, people
Speaker 1: that's got something behind their neck, bro, it's a little
Speaker 1: bit different. So, uh, they're doing okay, But right now
Speaker 1: still is leading it along with the nisky guy. They're
Speaker 1: leading it at this point in time. I know they
Speaker 1: were like for Josh Ball to take over in preseason
Speaker 1: to tell us because they would see a lot and
Speaker 1: then I wasn't thinking about this. They have an another
Speaker 1: preseason game within two days because the Rams come in here. Bro,
Speaker 1: the Rams coming here, they won't be a had a
Speaker 1: preseason game, So there a lot of their veterans gonna
Speaker 1: be ready to be the practice and you know we'll
Speaker 1: we'll find out real quick. You know, when I know
Speaker 1: the ninety nine who's rated Maden ninety nine, get on
Speaker 1: some heads something now we'll seek by Fred. Believe me,
Speaker 1: that's what they can do. That surprised you guys are
Speaker 1: they're having that practice two days after a preseason game. No, no,
Speaker 1: because they none of the veterans that counts are gonna practice,
Speaker 1: and none of the veterans that's gonna count is gonna
Speaker 1: play in the in the Hall of Fame game. If
Speaker 1: we have guys that are start us, I mean our
Speaker 1: stud players, especially on offense. Now you may have some
Speaker 1: difference and a variety of players on defense because we
Speaker 1: don't know who these guys there. But we know Zack
Speaker 1: martin Is, we know Tyron Smithfields, we know liell Is,
Speaker 1: we know what those guys is. You know, and so
Speaker 1: the center and the left guard we know. We'd be
Speaker 1: basically know that that the center may need a little
Speaker 1: extra work. You may tap him in for just a series,
Speaker 1: but you don't need to be messing around. Man. And lord,
Speaker 1: let me say this before we get off the air man.
Speaker 1: That number eighty eight, that number eight, that number he
Speaker 1: is killing folks. We've had the ambulance come out here
Speaker 1: six seven times. Care Flight Unit, get burning dudes up
Speaker 1: fifth and sixty crew. You know we talk about we
Speaker 1: talk about number ninety nine from the RAMS coming in
Speaker 1: next week. I look forward to the Jayalen Ramsey clad
Speaker 1: matchup because now you're gonna now you're gonna see. I
Speaker 1: don't doubt one. I think CD is a special, special,
Speaker 1: special guy. But I know what right. We always as
Speaker 1: a as a as a collective unit, want to push
Speaker 1: everybody to start him, everybody to be an everybody to
Speaker 1: be the next famer. Yes, sir, we're gonna see his
Speaker 1: emotional inteller like we like when you go up against
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, who gonna get into you athletically, gonna get
Speaker 1: into you mentally right now. Now, that's when you separate yourself. Okay,
Speaker 1: you you schooling, take Digs and and and Kelvin and
Speaker 1: all those guys. Great, you're supposed to work those dudes. Now,
Speaker 1: if you come back to me next week and like, listen,
Speaker 1: Jess boy, ceed he got all up in Jalen Ramsey's
Speaker 1: you know what now you're cooking with Now you cooking
Speaker 1: with fish grease baby. Now. But you know how I
Speaker 1: look at this, Uh, brother, is I want Jalen to
Speaker 1: come and get up in and so he can learn,
Speaker 1: absolutely so so he can prompt. For man, this is
Speaker 1: type of dude. He gonna want this, He gonna want this. No,
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna win many of them. But when he
Speaker 1: comes up out of that, you talk about cooking the
Speaker 1: fish grease boy gonna be it's gonna be thirty sixisions
Speaker 1: deep and on file. You know, saying yes, sir, I agree,
Speaker 1: bron I mean, Jalen ain't nothing to play with. Jalen
Speaker 1: gonna lake hands on him and baptized and take him
Speaker 1: to a new level. No, I'm with you on that, Jesse.
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to have three times Super Bowl champion
Speaker 1: Nick Newton on the line, and hey Nate, I'm just
Speaker 1: holding it that. I'm just holding it down here and
Speaker 1: hanging with the boys. I know my place. Just know,
Speaker 1: as soon as y'all get back to Dallas, I'm going
Speaker 1: to talking cowboys. I heard you a shining gross on
Speaker 1: the on the show talking about Hey put I'm putting
Speaker 1: too much h on my hanging with the boys. I
Speaker 1: heard you Nate might be going with the boy I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I got see someone I'm about to put in the call.
Speaker 1: I might have to put in the call to to
Speaker 1: d E upstairs and make some and make some changes.
Speaker 1: Hey Bay Newton, Man, I prevent you all, you guys,
Speaker 1: but I'm loving all you gotta believe me. Man, we
Speaker 1: all got our place. Man, But they hanging with them boys,
Speaker 1: that's a different level. But I am trying to recruit
Speaker 1: uh and cur I'm trying to recruit uh budget Brooks
Speaker 1: man and bring him into our pole man and uh
Speaker 1: so uh manall number one. Tell Bucky Brooks from one
Speaker 1: tar heel to another. Tell Bucky he needs to come
Speaker 1: get down with his other brother, his tar heel brother,
Speaker 1: and you got you gotta throwing love for Bucky. Now y'all, Now,
Speaker 1: y'all recruiting man. Now y'all recruiting name. Oh yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: yeah man, Nick Yeah, we've got him in the portal.
Speaker 1: We got him in the nag. I appreciate you, man,
Speaker 1: enjoy the hidden lake, and we'll catch up with you
Speaker 1: next week. Man, Thank y'all for everything. Y'all be blessed.
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Speaker 1: by my guys, Kurt, Daniel, Isaiah saying back and Jesse,
Speaker 1: Holly and Fellas last segment. You know, I've been doing
Speaker 1: my what the heck? And so instead of me kicking
Speaker 1: it off because Jesse, I know you have one, I
Speaker 1: want to swing it over to you. What you got?
Speaker 1: What's my camera? Is it? This one? Is this? What
Speaker 1: one's my camera? This one? This one right here right
Speaker 1: in front of here we go. This is my camera
Speaker 1: right in front of you, min What the heck? Goes
Speaker 1: out to our boss Derek Eagleton. Yeah, what the hell?
Speaker 1: Because and here's why I'm gonna get myself fired. I
Speaker 1: like this, but the what the heck? Man? When do why?
Speaker 1: I get the chance to go to camp as a
Speaker 1: as a as a media member of the Dallas Cowboy
Speaker 1: dot com. You guys went to the media. I've always
Speaker 1: wanted to go to the Jerry Jones Dallas Cowboys media
Speaker 1: party Noble and you hear all the stories in the
Speaker 1: reports last night. I don't drink, but if Jerry wanted
Speaker 1: to pour me a shot of the Johnny Walker blue,
Speaker 1: I might sip it down last night. That went down
Speaker 1: last night. I remember I was in the restaurant for
Speaker 1: the Den Bryant Infamous, and they had thirteen hundred dollars
Speaker 1: shot saluted thirteenth Red cast. I don't drink. I drunk
Speaker 1: that shot dot night because I don't know the next
Speaker 1: time I'm gonna have a thirteen hundred dollars shot of alcohol. Okay,
Speaker 1: what the heck man does? He throw that kind of
Speaker 1: party for the players at some point the Christmas party
Speaker 1: is done. Christmas Party was dope. Christmas Party was always dope.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep them, but them stories. Yeah, Christmas party
Speaker 1: was always dope. So I know if I know the
Speaker 1: level of the Christmas party, And y'all know if you
Speaker 1: if you are a faithful hanging with the boys, Remember,
Speaker 1: y'all know I beg. Y'all know I ask for free
Speaker 1: stuff all the time. Hey, I have no shame in begging.
Speaker 1: My grandmother always told me a clothes mouth don't get fed,
Speaker 1: and so d ain't too hard to beg. What the
Speaker 1: heck man? Hook your boy, Jay, Holly up, give me
Speaker 1: a pass for next year. I don't even pay for
Speaker 1: my own flight. Jesse has just successfully taken the whole
Speaker 1: what the heck segment out, So that's the next text
Speaker 1: you're done. But that is that is that is right there.
Speaker 1: Of like the example of Fomo was so real right then,
Speaker 1: because you're just like, don't let me miss this anymore. No,
Speaker 1: because here's why I'm putting my bid in. Now, Here's
Speaker 1: why I'm putting my bid in. Now. They did it
Speaker 1: at No Boo this year. Okay, It's only a matter
Speaker 1: of time because no one likes to show off their
Speaker 1: toys more than our big boss thing is gonna come
Speaker 1: on the new yacht sooner or later. He's gonna putting
Speaker 1: the yacht up to the dock. I don't know, mister Jones,
Speaker 1: sooner or later. Sooner or later, fall media members on there,
Speaker 1: sooner or later, the yacht will get pulled. I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not the guy who gonna do that anyway. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm like, I beg but when I get behind the
Speaker 1: closed door, I ain't putting mister mister Khan down there
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. He does a big party on his yacht. Really,
Speaker 1: So see, I'm telling you right team, right team, wrong yacht. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you don't board with me now, y'all don't want
Speaker 1: to miss the boat literally and figuratively, because I know
Speaker 1: it's coming. I don't know when, but in a year
Speaker 1: or so. I know the boats like in France right
Speaker 1: right now, getting maintenance done to it. You know that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I figured it was off the coast to California. No,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's getting maintenance done. You gotta go alway
Speaker 1: to France to get the maintenance. You know what. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna even ask how you know that getting maintenance done.
Speaker 1: Wrapping up this last eight minutes that we have on
Speaker 1: the show, Guys, the Boat, Why Jesse with this Bomo Guys?
Speaker 1: Then your impressions of the team, um, and obviously just
Speaker 1: from what you're hearing from what video that you're able
Speaker 1: to watch, what are your impressions of this team after
Speaker 1: six days of six practices and two days of padded practices.
Speaker 1: What's your opinion of these guys or what are you
Speaker 1: what's your vibe for the team? Competition is back, that's back,
Speaker 1: and we haven't had that for a while. Under the
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett administration. There has been a lack of competition
Speaker 1: across the board, mainly defensively. And you see that now.
Speaker 1: You hear that now and you see guys responding to that.
Speaker 1: Eight interceptions in two days. Did you see that when
Speaker 1: you were playing for him? Do you think over time? No? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. There was guys knew who they were
Speaker 1: going to like you knew d where I was gonna be,
Speaker 1: where you know, you knew it. Guys didn't really have
Speaker 1: to compete for jobs. You knew they when they were
Speaker 1: going to be. But but now it's come to the
Speaker 1: point where this healthy, and it's a healthy level of
Speaker 1: competition change. I'm saying that there is a culture change happen.
Speaker 1: Is it? How much? How much? I just it's been
Speaker 1: a while, you know, for so long you kind of
Speaker 1: are hesitants say certain things. No can We had this
Speaker 1: conversation on Monday, Yeah, with the question was posed, how
Speaker 1: long does it? How much is that McCarthy and how
Speaker 1: much does that Quinny heavy Quinn. I think I say
Speaker 1: yes because in order to know yes, one person has
Speaker 1: to allow it. One person has to allow it. And
Speaker 1: I think Mike has said, you know what this is,
Speaker 1: It's necessary, it's necessary, it's necessary. Do what you do. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: In terms of impressions, I'm you know what, I'm who
Speaker 1: I'm impressed with? Who doesn't get enough credit? Tight ends
Speaker 1: coach Linda Wells does not get enough credit for him
Speaker 1: to have obviously Jarwin under his wing. Jarwin go down
Speaker 1: last year. And I know, we don't just think that
Speaker 1: that that that shows just showed up like that. There
Speaker 1: is a lot of development on the back end that
Speaker 1: went along with that. There's a lot of preparation that
Speaker 1: went along with that on the field and in the classroom.
Speaker 1: And so now he has the opportunity and the pleasure
Speaker 1: of having two guys that are prepared to play. He
Speaker 1: has two guys at a position that was kind of
Speaker 1: ridden off that now we don't look at as a
Speaker 1: question mark anymore. And that doesn't just happen by guys
Speaker 1: showing up the camp and being ready to play ball.
Speaker 1: That happens because of development. And I want to give
Speaker 1: a big shout out to coach Wales because he's got
Speaker 1: a heck of a job with that group. He's from
Speaker 1: the Giant, the Giant long time. I had him when
Speaker 1: I was out there in the Giants and he was
Speaker 1: he was like the assistant to the assistant. And he's
Speaker 1: worked his way up. You know, he's he's taking advantage
Speaker 1: of his opportunities. And I'm I am beyond elated with
Speaker 1: the job that he's done with that group, because there's
Speaker 1: no nobody's sitting up here questioning. We haven't talked about
Speaker 1: a question mark at the tight end position. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you've heard noise and training camp from the McKee and
Speaker 1: the Third Street towns. He made a hell of a
Speaker 1: catch us in in the practice. So that's a that's
Speaker 1: a great that that's way to that's diving deep right there.
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah. Yeah. I think Feldman kind of the
Speaker 1: offensive line coach, falls into that same time. I mean,
Speaker 1: he worked some miracles last year with that packing up
Speaker 1: line and now he's you know, you've got the two
Speaker 1: guys coming back trying to get healthy and right, and
Speaker 1: you've got some good competition behind them as well. So
Speaker 1: you know, I think he's added a lot to what
Speaker 1: they brought. Colombo. I thought we all kind of liked
Speaker 1: his fire and everything, but maybe it just wasn't a
Speaker 1: right fit. But I've been impressed with him. I know
Speaker 1: they loved him too. Yeah, last after last year, he
Speaker 1: can do whatever the hell. Yeah. For me, it's it's
Speaker 1: Al Harris. I think Al Harris working with this young
Speaker 1: group of cornerbacks. I think He's going to make the difference,
Speaker 1: especially in Quinn's defense, and you with a room full
Speaker 1: of young guys like he has his it's it's going
Speaker 1: to be his ability to pretty much put his imprint
Speaker 1: on this group. And you know, seeing him at at OTA's, man,
Speaker 1: he's got his socks pulled all the way up. Man.
Speaker 1: You can tell from those guys that play there they're
Speaker 1: chomping at the bit to get back in action. But
Speaker 1: I think he's just a consummate. As we talk about
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn hey being so hands on, I think Al
Speaker 1: Harris is the same way. Just you see him working
Speaker 1: with these young guys and he has a young group
Speaker 1: and guys like Kelvin Joseph, and you know, I mean
Speaker 1: the expectation is there, so getting this guy ready to
Speaker 1: exceed those expectations, I think it's one of the things
Speaker 1: that Al Harris definitely it's going to be relied on,
Speaker 1: because man, he's one of the best to do. Do
Speaker 1: you think that we're gonna see a reincardnation or a
Speaker 1: reflection of his style to play within these guys. I
Speaker 1: would love. I would absolutely teach that. You can teach that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can teach the physical part of the
Speaker 1: mentality of yeah, but what I'm saying Quinn Quinn loves that, right,
Speaker 1: So Quinn wants that kind of cornerback. So now you
Speaker 1: take the defensive coordinator who's coming in, who's gonna say, hey,
Speaker 1: you can do whatever the heck you want to it.
Speaker 1: They're line of scrimmage. And then you have a coach
Speaker 1: and in Al Harris, who that was his style. Right,
Speaker 1: These long dreads are gonna be all up in your
Speaker 1: chests all day long. Right. I know the dreads are gone,
Speaker 1: but but the dog is still the same, Right, So
Speaker 1: I think I'm looking forward to seeing him reincardnating in
Speaker 1: some of these corners. How much of a difference as
Speaker 1: players did it make to have a guy in the
Speaker 1: coaching stuff who was had that kind of playing career
Speaker 1: him So, But then on the other hand, that guys
Speaker 1: like Philbin and yeah, I've never played for a guy
Speaker 1: who played the position. Um. The thing that players love
Speaker 1: to bring up a name that you brought up a
Speaker 1: guy like Colombo, a guy like Al Harris, is there's
Speaker 1: still that relatability, you know. It's not like he's an
Speaker 1: old dude like try me if you want to, right,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like I will still
Speaker 1: get out there and and lock you up. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and we saw that. We saw that with CHRISTI shar right,
Speaker 1: that energy, that that ability that and guys relate to that.
Speaker 1: When when I know that we ain't too far off,
Speaker 1: Like if a lout Wayne song come on before before
Speaker 1: while we stretching and you happen to know a word
Speaker 1: or two, I'm like, I know, you know. They're about
Speaker 1: that life right now, as we would say, they're about
Speaker 1: that life. Colombo tried, Columbo, if you want to, Colombo
Speaker 1: will put his hand in the ground and hand me
Speaker 1: your chest right exactly. Yeah, you're talking about credibility given respect, respect, respect,
Speaker 1: respect and be earned and the knowledge can be Yeah. Well, guys,
Speaker 1: it is always a pleasure to be here with you
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