WEBVTT - Shannon Elizabeth Talks About Making Millions on OnlyFans and That She Will Never Date Again

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm one of your hosts, Brian Austin Green, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really excited for my guest today, who is literally redefining

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<v Speaker 2>herself in chapter two. You know her from roles in

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<v Speaker 2>movies like the American Pie franchise, Scary Movie. She has

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<v Speaker 2>an incredible foundation helping wildlife in South Africa. She just

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<v Speaker 2>got divorced this week, not kidding, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>dive into that and so much more so here she

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<v Speaker 2>is Shannon Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that we've never met before, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so, but I feel like we should have.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that bananas? I was like, how is that possible?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I we we met everyone during that time period.

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<v Speaker 1>What was what was the timeframe of the American Pie movies?

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<v Speaker 1>That was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Ninety nine was the first one and all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So our show was already sinking at that point. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why that's why.

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<v Speaker 2>We never met, because our ratings were going to s

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<v Speaker 2>as you guys were just like blowing up.

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<v Speaker 1>That explains Yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine not to put you on the spot or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's usually it's and it's funny too, Like

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<v Speaker 2>the business was so much more segregated at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like you were either film or you were TV.

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<v Speaker 2>And what TV always wanted to do. Film film never

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do TV. Film was like no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>forget it, Like this is this is the life. I

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<v Speaker 2>like being a movie star. TV is beneath me, which

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<v Speaker 2>it felt like it was. Now it's all, uh opposite everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Field has evened out and people realize, I think, if

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<v Speaker 2>I want to have a family and I like I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be around, I need to do a show

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<v Speaker 2>that is set kind of in one place compared to

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<v Speaker 2>traveling all over the world doing stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean there's not a lot of sitcoms anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>But doing the sitcom was amazing, Like there was no

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<v Speaker 3>better sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I did. I did a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>I did a couple of sitcom things that were like

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<v Speaker 2>just game changers. They were so easy. It was so great.

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<v Speaker 2>But like being on a lot, having like specific hours

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<v Speaker 2>and all that, it was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, especially if you lived close to the lot,

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<v Speaker 3>if you live nearby, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Just all of it, Like honestly the lot is close

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what. Now, like it compared to having to

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<v Speaker 2>fly to Canada to shoot everything, or you know, both

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<v Speaker 2>Garia or all.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the place.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, do you know where I am right now?

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<v Speaker 1>You're in South Africa right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you live there? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I pretty much look here, Yeah I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do you what do you travel back to

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<v Speaker 2>the States for at this point? Like just to buy

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<v Speaker 2>buy groceries? No, there's a Whole Foods in Texas I

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<v Speaker 2>really love.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I love Whole Foods. Yeah, anywhere I travel back

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<v Speaker 3>for jobs. I travel back for appearances for my fundraiser

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of June, so things like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and seeing family and friends. But I mean, there's lots

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<v Speaker 3>of reasons to travel back.

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<v Speaker 1>Families all here, right. Where are you from originally?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm from Texas originally. But the only I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>have lots of aunts and uncles and cousins, and my

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<v Speaker 3>cousin and New York is like a sister to me,

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<v Speaker 3>so I probably see her most of anyone. So when

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<v Speaker 3>I travel back a lot of times, I'll stay with her,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, we're we're always looking for ways to

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<v Speaker 3>work together and do things together, because you know, she

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have a sister. I don't have any brothers or sisters.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's kind of you're a child.

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<v Speaker 1>I am amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I So I have an older brother and an older sister,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're from my mom's first marriage, and there's a

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<v Speaker 2>nine year age difference between my sister, who I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>closest with. So I grew up feeling like an only child. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>so I get I understand that, can we? So I

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<v Speaker 2>I just in doing research on you, there was so

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<v Speaker 2>much about you that I didn't know. So then you

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<v Speaker 2>bringing up like, oh, I'm in South Africa right now,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, okay, yeah, let's go there first, Like this

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<v Speaker 2>is really interesting. So this show is I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you've ever listened to it or checked it out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I Do Part two.

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<v Speaker 2>And to me, the concept of this show is people

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<v Speaker 2>that have lived these full lives and have experienced things

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<v Speaker 2>and then kind of go in after the first time

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<v Speaker 2>where things have gone a bit sideways, and they and

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<v Speaker 2>they start sharing these lessons that they've learned and sharing

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<v Speaker 2>who they are and how they've grown. But then we

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<v Speaker 2>all were sort of a community, so we grow together. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>only child, raised, born and raised in Texas. How how

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<v Speaker 2>many pets did you have?

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<v Speaker 1>When you were a kid. One well, just one.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a moment where I had a bird as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody gave me a bird, but then the bird died.

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<v Speaker 3>And my parents had a poodle like a miniature poodle

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<v Speaker 3>when I was born, and they would never allow me

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<v Speaker 3>to have more animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you want more animals?

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<v Speaker 2>Though?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I would cry and be like, when I grow

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<v Speaker 3>up tons of animals around me, I'm gonna have like

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<v Speaker 3>a farm of animals, was always my threat to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Cut two rhinos and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when I lived in La and I started my charity,

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<v Speaker 3>I had seven dogs at any given time. I always

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<v Speaker 3>had seven dogs in my house.

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<v Speaker 1>Like rescues like fostering, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>They became mine, so I did. I would foster and

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes animals. It kind of it was weird because it

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<v Speaker 3>started out that we would foster these animals and or

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<v Speaker 3>we would find an animal and then somebody a friend

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<v Speaker 3>would come over and be like, oh that's a cool dog,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're like do you want them? You know, And

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of how it started. That's how the rescuing

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<v Speaker 3>kind of started. It's like, oh, you like this dog,

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<v Speaker 3>do you want a dog? And they would take them

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<v Speaker 3>and and it just kind of naturally developed from there

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<v Speaker 3>and then you know, they're just became. You just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of knew when it was your core animal or a

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<v Speaker 3>rescue that was going to move on to another home,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but it was always So I have one

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<v Speaker 3>dog sitting next to me right now, in the chair

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<v Speaker 3>next to me.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's really funny is my fiance she before me,

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<v Speaker 2>she owned a house off of beech Wood, just under.

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<v Speaker 1>The Hollywood sign, and it was her and her.

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<v Speaker 2>Two dogs that she had rescued, and she lived this

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<v Speaker 2>very simple life, but she would like foster dogs all

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<v Speaker 2>the time and like that was a big part of

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<v Speaker 2>everything for her. And then we ended up together. She

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<v Speaker 2>now we had a baby together, but I already had

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<v Speaker 2>four kids, so all of a sudden she had this

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<v Speaker 2>like massive family. And then when she decided she wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to foster, it was like, you've got to we already

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<v Speaker 2>had three dogs, Like this has to fit into our world,

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<v Speaker 2>which is it's difficult because foster dogs sometimes have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of issues from you know, like previous traumas and

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<v Speaker 2>things that they've this one here. We have little dogs

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<v Speaker 2>and one named Daisy, that is she's I love Daisy,

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<v Speaker 2>but she is so complicated, like there's just so much

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<v Speaker 2>going on in her head, and she is like constantly

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<v Speaker 2>growling and sort of snapping and worried that somebody's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>hurt her. So she's got that little dog syndrome. Plus

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<v Speaker 2>she's getting old now, so her hearing is going, which

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<v Speaker 2>just makes it twice is worse. Like she's running around

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<v Speaker 2>the house and she's panicking, thinking she wants to find you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you call her name, but she doesn't even hear you,

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<v Speaker 2>like she just keeps running in the opposite direction. But

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<v Speaker 2>so we fostered dogs that were pregnant and had puppies,

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<v Speaker 2>and we ended up having these puppies and we have

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of friends that have them now that adopted.

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<v Speaker 1>Them, and we love them.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is, it's it is a choice to gold

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<v Speaker 2>the route of animal activism. I mean, can we jump

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<v Speaker 2>into your I don't want to say personal life because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not, but because this show is, I do part two,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I want to get into relationships stuff a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit because I think people need.

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<v Speaker 1>All the help they can get.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I did, like I you know, I just

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<v Speaker 2>sort of I learned it was trial by fire for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So you were you were not you were not married

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<v Speaker 2>at the point when you moved to South Africa. That

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<v Speaker 2>was you were married before then.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was married in early two thousands for a

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<v Speaker 3>few so I was with a guy named Joe who

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<v Speaker 3>is now my manager.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I think I think the people that actually

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<v Speaker 2>put this together they spoke to him all, which is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you guys have that.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe actually was on nine O two one zero for

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<v Speaker 3>an episode because he's yeah, you're kidding, he was cut out.

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<v Speaker 3>He got cut out because it was a controversial episode

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<v Speaker 3>and they yeah, yeah, they were worried about it. But

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<v Speaker 3>that was one of his first jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>He had said, that's hysterical.

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<v Speaker 3>So we were together for ten years. So we were.

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<v Speaker 3>We were together for seven before we got married and

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<v Speaker 3>then married for three and then then I dated way

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<v Speaker 3>too much and then I moved to South Africa. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just kipping over. I moved to South Africa and then

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<v Speaker 3>I met someone here and got married and just got

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<v Speaker 3>divorced and it got finalized two days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that is absolutely congratulations. And that's the end of

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<v Speaker 3>my dating. I'm done, is it? Yeah? I don't see

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<v Speaker 3>me dating ever again, not for a very long time

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<v Speaker 3>or not on purpose. Yeah, No, I'm absolutely not getting

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<v Speaker 3>married again. And I just I don't have I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have any desire right now today, Like I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like your your pickers broken at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what do you think? Because it's it's it's hard,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I get it. I have again, five kids, three

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<v Speaker 2>different mothers, and I went through two relationships one we

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<v Speaker 2>were married for almost ten years, very public divorce, and

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<v Speaker 2>I remember at one point going thinking, God, I am

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm the common denominator with everything that's gone wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>Like so I have to accept some sort of responsibility

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't want to be single the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>my life and I didn't want to carry into my

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<v Speaker 2>next relationship what I had done, what I felt my

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<v Speaker 2>part was in the first two relationships that didn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you had any of that or are you just

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like I just want to focus on what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing now and I'll get to that later.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean you have any like working on myself?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Like do you is there are do you have? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like you're in a place where you

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<v Speaker 2>want to work on yourself to better yourself for the

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<v Speaker 2>next relationship, or do you feel like I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to work on myself to be the best conservationist I

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<v Speaker 2>can be right now, on the best human being on

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<v Speaker 2>my own.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a lot of working on myself after my

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<v Speaker 3>first relationship. After I did all that Deity, I did

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of work on myself. So after I went

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<v Speaker 3>a little wild and crazy, I did a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>work and I definitely did a lot wrong in that relationship,

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<v Speaker 3>and it took a lot of responsibility for that. Eventually

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<v Speaker 3>that was one hundred percent on me.

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<v Speaker 2>This last it was, well, it's two people in a relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>so I feel like there are but they each person

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<v Speaker 2>triggers each other, and then it triggers the worst in people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure you could have made a ton of

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<v Speaker 2>mistakes and done things, but never one hundred percent you,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think, But go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm taking responsibility for it though, like he knows. We've

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<v Speaker 3>talked about it, and I acknowledge that I did a

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<v Speaker 3>lot wrong. I was for whatever reason, I just wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't myself, to be honest, like, I just wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>That wasn't me. I wasn't myself that wasn't authentically who

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<v Speaker 3>I am. And I think that's why now we are

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<v Speaker 3>best friends and we could come back to working together

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<v Speaker 3>and loving each other in a different way.

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<v Speaker 1>How could you possibly authentically be you? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Like how there's nothing authentic about what it is we

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<v Speaker 2>do professionally.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very weird place to be and especially because

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<v Speaker 2>you were young, I was like, it's not there is? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>what who do you possibly meet or ask questions to

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<v Speaker 2>get any sort of like good perspective on it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a very upside down, crazy world to be in. So

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you'd like I not to preach to you,

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<v Speaker 2>but like people have to give themselves a little grace

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes in growing and figuring something out. And the world

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<v Speaker 2>that we're in that we live in professionally is not

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<v Speaker 2>a normal, healthy place to be in. You can make

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of wrong turns if you allow yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, absolutely, And I think I definitely had those

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<v Speaker 3>moments where I just went off the rails, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have a lot of regrets from back then,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've worked really hard to try to make amends

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<v Speaker 3>to things that I did and said and the ways

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<v Speaker 3>I acted and I'm not proud of that period of

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<v Speaker 3>time at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like regrets are I regret what are to

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<v Speaker 2>me are good if you recognize them as periods of growth,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't. To me, any of the failures that

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<v Speaker 2>I had in my life leading up to now, all

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<v Speaker 2>of them created who I am now.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wouldn't change any of them.

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<v Speaker 2>But I definitely look back and I go, boy, that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't handled well.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely could have been better in this situation. I could.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love them now, like I embrace all of

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<v Speaker 2>them because they all have Look at you, look at you,

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<v Speaker 2>look at the life that you're that you're living, and

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<v Speaker 2>look at what you're doing. And the better the betterment

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<v Speaker 2>that you that you are providing to the world. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's all of those all of those crazy missteps, it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's you from American Pie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like all of the stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>That you went through leading to who you are now,

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<v Speaker 2>which is which is really amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well thank you for that, I mean, and that's very sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do have the regrets, and I would change things,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think I would still be I would still

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<v Speaker 3>be where I was supposed to be now, whether it

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<v Speaker 3>would just I would have gotten here in a different path.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have taken a different road, a different yellow

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<v Speaker 3>brick road. I would have gone a different direction, but

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<v Speaker 3>it would still have led to the same place. I

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<v Speaker 3>think I think it had to, you know, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I was supposed to be here no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the biggest lesson you think that you learned

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<v Speaker 1>through throughout?

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you could looking back on the twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>year old Shannon, like, what would you what advice would

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<v Speaker 2>you give her now.

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<v Speaker 1>Compared to the way you were living then.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, to be honest, as far as like

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<v Speaker 3>the relationship side of it goes, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 3>there was a part of me that always thought I

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<v Speaker 3>was missing out on something, that the grass was always greener,

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<v Speaker 3>that there was always something else out there I was

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to be doing and it's just not the case.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't really know how to answer that, to

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<v Speaker 3>be honest, I think I just I went through a

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<v Speaker 3>very dark period. I think like attracts like and when

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<v Speaker 3>I started going through a bad time, I was attracting

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of bad things. And likewise, if you're in

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<v Speaker 3>a good place, you attract good things. And that's why

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<v Speaker 3>it's so important to try to always be energetically in

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<v Speaker 3>such a good place. So it's you know when people say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>one thing goes wrong, everything goes wrong, Well, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 3>you're attracting other things and that low vibration.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right, especially if you're putting that energy out,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you believe in manifesting at all, which I do,

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<v Speaker 2>is like, if you're putting out nothing but negative energy,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you're going to attract, Like you attract exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what you to me, that's what you have

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<v Speaker 2>control over. Like that is the control in your life.

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<v Speaker 2>All the rest of it is bananas all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and it will be your entire your entire go at it.

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<v Speaker 2>The only thing that we have control over are these

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<v Speaker 2>choices that we make in how we deal with them,

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<v Speaker 2>who we are, how people experience us, and whether we

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<v Speaker 2>see the silver lining and everything or we just sort

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<v Speaker 2>of fade into the tough situations.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I think there's a lesson in everything. I

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<v Speaker 3>do believe everything happens for a reason. It doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 3>that I don't wish I could go back and change

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<v Speaker 3>some of the things that I went through and that

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<v Speaker 3>I've done. There are definitely pivotal moments that change things

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<v Speaker 3>in my life and in my career that I would

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<v Speaker 3>love to know had I gone a different way, what

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<v Speaker 3>things would be like, you know, And one day I

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<v Speaker 3>probably will put it all in a book. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a lot of things that I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like more and more I can, I'm getting closer to

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<v Speaker 3>being able to talk about them. It's tough because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're in an industry. When you start talking about things,

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<v Speaker 3>it does involve other people in the industry, And what

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<v Speaker 3>are you allowed to say? What do you want to say?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you who are you protecting?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>And at some point you just want to let it

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<v Speaker 3>all out and release that.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, transparency is tough, for sure. It's really hard.

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<v Speaker 2>To know what to get into and not like I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a place now where I definitely share more

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<v Speaker 2>than I ever did. But at the same time, you're right, like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a part of me that is like, hmmm, is

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<v Speaker 2>that going too far? Am I implicating somebody that's not

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<v Speaker 2>ready to get into it?

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<v Speaker 1>On their side?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you know, it's you do you do edit yourself

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<v Speaker 2>and the things you talk about a little bit, which sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's not a great feeling because then you're not

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<v Speaker 2>getting everything out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean there's definitely things people asked me about

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<v Speaker 3>that I have to lie. We've got to be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Get everything out in a book, Like I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Writing a book terrifies me because it's like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 2>do I really want to? Like because those words on

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<v Speaker 2>page those are truly forever. Like I can change my

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<v Speaker 2>mind in interviews and go in different directions, and people

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<v Speaker 2>sort of see the evolution of me compared to like

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<v Speaker 2>how many books am I going to write? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I may I may write two, and at that

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<v Speaker 2>point it's like you've only seen two iterations of me

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<v Speaker 2>on paper. I'm much more of like I'll just choose

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<v Speaker 2>to do interviews and talk about things.

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<v Speaker 3>See. But with the interviews sometimes I mean for me,

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<v Speaker 3>I say the wrong thing and then I like stress

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<v Speaker 3>about it till it comes out. I'm like, oh, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't have said that, Oh why did I say that? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's nothing I can do. I've lost control at book.

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<v Speaker 3>At least I can go back and I can edit it.

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<v Speaker 3>I can have a lawyer look at it and like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>get it to the boy where I'm like, I've sat

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<v Speaker 3>with it for two years before I decide.

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<v Speaker 2>Interviews, though, you can take you can take your time

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<v Speaker 2>when you're speaking to people, Like most most of the

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<v Speaker 2>interviews that we do aren't live, so it's like, take

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<v Speaker 2>your time. If you have to think about a question

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<v Speaker 2>for five minutes, you think about it for five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>If somebody needs to cut it out for time, then

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<v Speaker 2>they do. If it's a print interview, it doesn't can

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<v Speaker 2>matter anyway. They're just literally going from answer to answer

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<v Speaker 2>to answer. But yeah, it's a very uh, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>weird it's a weird kind of fish bowl thing that

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<v Speaker 2>we I mean, especially now for you, Like all of

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<v Speaker 2>the attention that you're getting with only fans is it's

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<v Speaker 2>mind blowing, Like were you expecting at.

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<v Speaker 1>All to have the attention that you're that you're getting.

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<v Speaker 1>Not No at all.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I have no idea, no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm engaged.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't have any only fans subscriptions. I did, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So like I can't even say, oh, well, so I've

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<v Speaker 2>watched your content and so here's how it differs from

0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 2>other things that you would imagine. But from what I've

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<v Speaker 2>read you're very specific of like, no, this is a

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<v Speaker 2>piece of my life that people don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Normally normally get. Do you feel like that has.

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<v Speaker 2>Been therapeutic in some way because people get to see

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<v Speaker 2>like an authentic part of you where you don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>quite as worried about what you put out or do

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Much more.

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<v Speaker 2>Much more controlled and you're much more careful now of

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<v Speaker 2>what it is you say.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's it's starting to allow me to drop my

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<v Speaker 4>my walls a little bit, you know, whereas everything was

0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 4>always had to be so perfectly done and so perfectly

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<v Speaker 4>manicured and so perfectly put together.

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<v Speaker 3>And the more I do this, the more I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>h it doesn't matter. I can do this with no makeup.

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<v Speaker 3>I can do this without like wry as I go

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<v Speaker 3>to bed, as I wake up in the morning, like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting used to being able to share and not

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<v Speaker 3>care as much. I still care, but it's allowing me

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<v Speaker 3>to get more comfortable with myself in a weird way,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's happening me.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes sense, Like, yeah, be authentic. Is it's crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>It's counterintuitive. You would assume that people would not connect

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<v Speaker 2>with you the same way if you're not perfect all

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<v Speaker 2>the time when you're on camera and you're not saying

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<v Speaker 2>all the right things. But the reality is people connect

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<v Speaker 2>more with you when you are human and you are

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely yourself in all moments, whether they're flawed or not.

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<v Speaker 2>People really love authentic people because then they feel like, oh, Okay,

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:12.640
<v Speaker 2>they're normal people just like I am. So it's sort

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 2>of it levels the playing field a little bit. It

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<v Speaker 2>seems like the more. When I got to a point

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<v Speaker 2>where I was like, Okay, I'm a little more willing

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<v Speaker 2>to share and just kind of be open and honest,

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 2>people responded really well to it. I was like, oh man,

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 2>this is addicting. It feels good to not worry so much.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes life way simpler. Yeah, I've put so much

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<v Speaker 2>stress on my life and I've made life so much

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<v Speaker 2>more complicated than it ever had to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's the same way though with dating.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, it's when I got to the point where

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<v Speaker 2>I was dating again, I was like, God, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to stop putting on the mask of like what I

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<v Speaker 2>assume people would love and all of that, and that

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<v Speaker 2>whole honeymoon period. I'm going to not have any of

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm just going to be me from the get go,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you don't like me, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>waste my time doing this and being in something new.

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:09.479
<v Speaker 2>I've got so much other going on, Like you know,

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 2>you have rhinos to save.

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<v Speaker 1>I have kids to raise like I don't have.

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<v Speaker 2>We have way bigger lives than then, you know, dating

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<v Speaker 2>or being in a relationship with somebody. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>find somebody that matches the life that I'm already living,

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<v Speaker 2>that I can then have as.

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<v Speaker 1>A teammate through it all. Yeah, you do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you.

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Do? You feel like you want that again eventually, or

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 2>like you're fine without it right now and you're really

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:39.640
<v Speaker 2>set in who you are and what you're doing.

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm absolutely fine without it. I don't feel like I

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 3>need it. I feel more myself, more alive, more free.

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.919
<v Speaker 3>I don't feel like I'm missing anything. In fact, I

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 3>feel just the opposite. And having this freedom now to

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean hanging out with my girlfriends, it's just for me.

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just as fulfilling as hanging out with

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 3>a partner.

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not more so because you're finding yourself and you're

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:13.400
<v Speaker 2>not putting any other pressure of like how how am

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.439
<v Speaker 2>I being perceived by the other person that I'm with

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 2>right now? And yeah, it's it's a it's a completely

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 2>different situation. And I think it's important for people to

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 2>to like really cherish that time when they are single

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and alone, to really find themselves and.

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Find again who you love being.

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 2>So then when you go into the next relationship, which

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 2>for me was totally unplanned. I wasn't dating, I wasn't

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 2>actively searching for somebody.

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:42.360
<v Speaker 1>It just worked out that way.

0:26:42.400 --> 0:26:45.640
<v Speaker 2>I ended up meeting someone that I had so much

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:48.560
<v Speaker 2>in common with. Naturally it was like, oh, I can

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 2>let's hang out, Like let's see you know why, Like

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 2>we should just absolutely be friends, and then it went

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 2>from friends to just we we have an amazing relationship.

0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 2>But it's I think it's important to do that. I

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:07.479
<v Speaker 2>think people that don't spend time with themselves and with

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:12.200
<v Speaker 2>their friends, they really miss out on that finding of

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 2>who they truly are with their friends and by themselves

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 2>and waking up in the morning and doing your own things.

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I think I think they're they're they're short changing themselves,

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:30.640
<v Speaker 2>and then they go into a new relationship putting too

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:34.120
<v Speaker 2>much on this other partner. You depend on the other

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 2>person too much compared to like you figured out how

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 2>to do it yourself. I don't really need you to

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 2>do any of this stuff, but let's just do it together.

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 2>It's let's just share all of these things.

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I I don't see me going into

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 3>another relationship ever, so I'm not you know, I'm I've

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 3>got my charity, my charity work then I'm doing. I've

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 3>got my friends, I've got acting, I've got not only

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 3>fans and all like connecting with all of my fans

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 3>that way. My life is full. I don't even have

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 3>time or room for a partner. I don't want one.

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:17.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm so happy the way things are right now. I've

0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 3>got my my cousin who's like a sister to me,

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.159
<v Speaker 3>and we're looking to do things together like They's just

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:28.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't have time for a partner. It means I

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 3>would neglect doing the things that I'm loving doing right now.

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I'm good.

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 2>You're also just two days out of divorce, so I'm sure.

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there's.

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 2>A part of you too, And that's like, like I'm.

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Free of this, thank goodness.

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a whole different feeling shitting in your home,

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 2>but it's amazing. I mean that is a that's I

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 2>envy that for sure, and I think that's a great

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 2>place to be in.

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 3>You can't end me that because you're engaged.

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, but never say never say never to a relationship,

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 2>but I do.

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>I do envy that feeling. Luckily.

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I am engaged, and it's we're in a

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 2>place now where we are we're able to really sort

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 2>of find ourselves still, but we're just partners in doing it,

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 2>so I don't I'm not alone now in this search

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 2>for life and the things I want to do and

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 2>the things I want to accomplish and and lives I

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 2>want to change in a positive way. She's very much

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 2>aligned with me that way. So we're just really realizing

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 2>now that it's like, oh power and numbers, we can

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 2>do so much more together than we could do separated.

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's amazing you found that, congratulations because that's not

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 3>easy to find. And I'm sure you're easy together in

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 3>past lives if you're like disconnected now, so you've been

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 3>together lifetime after life.

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I for sure for sure feel that way. It's

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 2>funny you we were talking about before that all of

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 2>a sudden there when when my marriage ended. I and

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't really dating, but I was just sort of

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 2>living life and I was raising my kids and all that.

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Australian women started coming in my life in random ways,

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I've never once been friends with

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 2>an Australian. Like, I've never dated an Australian woman. This

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make any sense to me. And then at the

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.239
<v Speaker 2>point when my business manager was like, oh, I've got

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 2>a client that I think you should meet. You guys

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>just remind me a lot of each other when I'm

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 2>with either one of you.

0:30:36.040 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>And I met her and she was Australian, I was like, what.

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 2>The fuck is Like, why what is it about Australia

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>about Okay, this is like I'm gonna trust the universe

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 2>wants this for me. Now, this is a new space

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm supposed to be in. Yeah, like all all you know,

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 2>hands down, cool, let's go, let's do this.

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:30:56.480 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 2>And it's been such an amazing relationship because it's opened

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 2>my eyes to a different way of viewing the world

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and a different way of really honoring people that are

0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 2>around me. We have just an unbelievable relationship. I Sharna

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>is her name, and I love her more than I've

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>ever loved anybody in that life.

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Aside from my kids. Yeah, Dancing with the Stars.

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I know who that is. That's amazing. Oh

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember if she was on when I was on.

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh way, you did the show?

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, season six, so it was a long time ago,

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 3>so I don't think she was on yet, but I

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 3>know of her because of the show. Yeah.

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So we have been We've been together for almost

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 2>five years now. It's unbelievable. We met during COVID. We

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 2>had a business manager in common who suggested we meet

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 2>each other. And this person is not like, she is

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 2>not somebody that normally sets people up, like that's not

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 2>her mo, you wouldn't meet her and go ooh matchmaker

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 2>this one. You know, she's like great at her job

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 2>and what she does with money in it, so she's

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>very We very much were like, oh, she's great with that.

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 2>So when she suggested it, it was like, oh, that's interesting, Okay, sure.

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:16.920
<v Speaker 2>So we ended up meeting for coffee and we had

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 2>this amazing six hour conversation. But we talked about our strengths,

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 2>our weaknesses, all of it. Like it was very unfiltered

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 2>because she'd been single for five years.

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>At that point, I had come out of my marriage.

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I never.

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Again want to make the same mistakes. So I had

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 2>been heavy into therapy and sort of working on myself

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 2>and very much connected with un the common denominator in

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 2>things that have gone wrong. I want to fix that,

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 2>if not for a relationship, just for myself. So we

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 2>were very aligned morally and we had this amazing conversation.

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 2>We never had a honeymoon period where we started seeing

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 2>each other in the ways of like, oh my god,

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 2>you don't handle stress very well, or you like, you know,

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 2>you can only maintain the facade for so long before

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 2>you get into real life, and it's like, oh man,

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 2>this is it's it's it's impossible to sustain this, this

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 2>fantasy that I've painted for someone else.

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>So we never had that. So we had this amazing relationship.

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 2>But you have to be in the place where you

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 2>honestly just don't give a ship at that like I

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't care whether in meeting her there was a love

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 2>connection or not. It wasn't like a blind date for me.

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 2>It was I didn't have my fingers crossed and I

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 2>was hoping that something would come out of it. I

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 2>was just like, oh, this is yeah, let's sit down

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 2>and have coffee and meet and hang out. And then

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 2>we left that situation. I was like, oh, that was

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 2>really amazing. I've never I've never dated someone where it

0:33:56.280 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 2>was a six hour conversation over literally nothing sexual, Like

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 2>that was the last thing on my mind. I just

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 2>wanted to sit down and do it again. I was like,

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 2>this is a great connection. This is a really cool

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 2>thing to have. We had like four more of those

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 2>before we were even like even kissed or like. It

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 2>was just it was a really cool, cool connection. And

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay, I'm not going to put pressure on you,

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 2>but I think if you continue on the path that

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:27.760
<v Speaker 2>you're on, that'll be the next thing for you, because

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 2>it seems like you're you're on that path now.

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I sure.

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Again, I say, am I'm not looking for it. I'm

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 3>not going to look for it. I feel very full

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 3>without it. If it's meant to be, then we'll see.

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 3>But at this point in time, no interest.

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 1>That's the place to be. Okay.

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 2>So Shannon, I could uh just talk your ear off

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:58.760
<v Speaker 2>and I have this conversation all day, but I think

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 2>what we should do is we sh to make a

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Part two out of this, so people come back and

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 2>they they listen to more of this because we have

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 2>so much more to get into it.