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<v Speaker 1>From the heart of where innovation, money and power in

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<v Speaker 1>Silicon Valley and beyond. This is Bloomberg Technology with Emily Jay.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Taylor Riggs in New York and for Emily Chang,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Bloomberg Technology. Coming up in the next hour,

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<v Speaker 1>a warning from President Biden to China's Pink There will

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<v Speaker 1>be quote consequences if China supports Russia in its invasion

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<v Speaker 1>of Ukraine. What this call between the two leaders could

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<v Speaker 1>mean for this ongoing war, plus what more needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be done to reach true pay equality. We'll speak with

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<v Speaker 1>a woman who has made it her goal to change

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<v Speaker 1>the structural roadblocks at her company and what others can

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<v Speaker 1>learn from it. And he's helping raise millions for families

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<v Speaker 1>in you Crane with as little as a thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>per donation. Will meet the man behind the one K project,

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<v Speaker 1>including what inspired him to get involved. Now, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>today President Biden has been roughly about two hours in

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<v Speaker 1>a video chat with Chinese leader Jijing Ping. The two

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Russia's invasion of Ukraine and what to do next.

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<v Speaker 1>From more, I'm joined by Bloomberg Political director Jody Schneider

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington. It was interesting Jody speaking with anre horder

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<v Speaker 1>in a few hours ago. We heard China's version of events.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we finally got the read out of the US version.

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<v Speaker 1>What did it sound like for you for how the

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<v Speaker 1>call went. Yeah, so they're very different versions tailors. You

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<v Speaker 1>might note they agreed on that they talked for two hours.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a video conference, first time that the two

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<v Speaker 1>leaders have spoken since November, so obviously the first time

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<v Speaker 1>since the Russia's invasion of Ukraine. UH. The Chinese summary

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<v Speaker 1>came out first UH shortly after the call, and that

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<v Speaker 1>they said, UH that President hu Jianping uh the case

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<v Speaker 1>that they did not want to see an invasion of

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine and that they do not think that country's conflicts

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<v Speaker 1>should be settled on the battlefield. However, they didn't mention

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<v Speaker 1>Russia by name and didn't publicly UM and have not

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<v Speaker 1>publicly criticized Russia for or denounced Russia as most of

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the world has for that invasion. On

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<v Speaker 1>the U S side, we got that statement later several

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<v Speaker 1>hours later, and basically they said that US President Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden had come out very strongly and said that there

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<v Speaker 1>will be implications and consequences for China if they were

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<v Speaker 1>to take direct support of Russia, such as selling aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>or or military equipment to them for that invasion. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>And also made the case that UH that President Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>President Biden made the case that the US had taken

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<v Speaker 1>a number of steps, including sanctions, to try to stop

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<v Speaker 1>that invasion in the first place. Judie, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about this significance of these talks given the height

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<v Speaker 1>in sort of geopolitical risk that we're already in, Because

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, coming into this, this was a US

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<v Speaker 1>in a China relationship that was already pretty strained. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>There's these times have been frayed in recent years by

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<v Speaker 1>a number of things, the trade tensions, UH, tensions over

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<v Speaker 1>things like intellectual property disputes Hong Kong, Taiwan, UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>then this on top of it. But the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they are talking, I think it's significant in and of itself. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>we have nuclear powers here, UM discussing the invasion of

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<v Speaker 1>a country by another nuclear power, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking, and that neither side UH, that both sides

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to be willing to come back to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>That was another headline out of this that they say

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<v Speaker 1>they will keep talking. Uh is significant in itself. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't talk about trade or any of these other

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<v Speaker 1>issues that Taiwan did come up, with the US saying

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<v Speaker 1>it continues with its support of Taiwan the status quo,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that it supports the democratically elected leadership of Taiwan,

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<v Speaker 1>and China didn't have a fairly UH strong statement on

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<v Speaker 1>Taiwan itself, saying that their actions their perceived actions on

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<v Speaker 1>Taiwan have been misread and misjudged by the US and

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<v Speaker 1>there was an implicit warning there. Jody, I think what's interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>We're just coming off of a great conversation we had

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<v Speaker 1>on Triple Take for the last thirty minutes when we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the effectiveness of sanctions, and on one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>they can work when they're targeted, but on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>it really can continue to isolate a country like Russia

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<v Speaker 1>and push them further into China's hands. Right, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you thinking about globalization the reorder of the word the

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<v Speaker 1>world is we're thinking about sort of these bilateral relationships

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<v Speaker 1>or if it's really just more of the Eastern powers

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<v Speaker 1>versus now some of the Western countries. Yeah, it certainly

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<v Speaker 1>has the potential to shake things up and to deliver

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<v Speaker 1>us to more of that Cold war world. The other

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<v Speaker 1>question was sanctions. Taylor. I think is interesting is how

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<v Speaker 1>much further can they go? UH? The US has you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been the big They're big arsenal if you

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<v Speaker 1>in trying to first prevent that, uh, that invasion, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when they couldn't prevent it, to punish Russia Ford

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<v Speaker 1>and to try to isolate them. But they have gone

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<v Speaker 1>you know there, there doesn't seem to be much more

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<v Speaker 1>they can do in terms of sanctions and UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a real question what comes next. We will stay

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<v Speaker 1>tuned on what comes next, and I know that we'll

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<v Speaker 1>stay tuned with you. Jody Schneider, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for your time, our political news director. Let's stick with

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<v Speaker 1>the impact of the war in Ukraine. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in Dan Eyes of web Bush for his read

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Dan, I've been reading all your notes in

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<v Speaker 1>the past three weeks and cybersecurity, cybersecurity, cyber security, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think are going to be within cybersecurity some

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest Uh. I hate to use the word

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<v Speaker 1>beneficiary because we're talking about a war, but how do

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<v Speaker 1>you sort of see this plane out within your world

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<v Speaker 1>of equity markets. Yeah, we've seen that. I mean there's

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<v Speaker 1>clear elevation of threats. We think upwards in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the elevation since but we believe as a cyber warfa's

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<v Speaker 1>already underway from Russia. Uh. You look at names like

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<v Speaker 1>pow out of Z Scale or CrowdStrike, Palanteer and Tenable

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<v Speaker 1>in cyber arc, those are really the basket of names

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<v Speaker 1>among many others that benefit. That's how we believe cybersecurity

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<v Speaker 1>spending is gonna be up four to five actual overall.

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<v Speaker 1>I T spend. I think it's gonna be a golden

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<v Speaker 1>age for cyber and right now we're really seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>importance as they protect enterprises as well as many organizations

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<v Speaker 1>and agencies within the Beltway. But does that text spend

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<v Speaker 1>come from somewhere else? Because text mend was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be strong coming into this year if I remember correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>But with the FED raising rates, we might be looking

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<v Speaker 1>at a little bit of a slowing economy. If a

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<v Speaker 1>company now has to choose where they spend that tech,

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<v Speaker 1>is it clearly going to be cybersecurity. Does it come

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<v Speaker 1>at the expense of something else? Yeah, it's a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's where it's really Cloud and cyber security

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<v Speaker 1>are the priorities, and we're seeing cloud budgets in many

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<v Speaker 1>ways up thirty across the board, and cybersecurity go hand

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<v Speaker 1>in hand, so and I think where that's coming from

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of may being negative some of the hardware,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the networking purchases that could be negative for

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<v Speaker 1>the likes of Cisco and others. But I think we've

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<v Speaker 1>really seen there is a bifurcation of tech to work

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<v Speaker 1>from home. The e commerce names, I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them are catching a falling night. You look where

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<v Speaker 1>the spending is, enterprise software, Chips, some of the star warts, Apple, Microsoft.

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<v Speaker 1>In our opinion this week, with the Fed, the tech

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<v Speaker 1>bottom we believe is in once they ripped that band

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<v Speaker 1>aid off this week. Okay, let's talk about that because

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<v Speaker 1>the macro picture DAN is a federal reserve that's raising rates.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're coming off of the tech sector that just

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<v Speaker 1>posted one of the best weeks that we've had since November.

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<v Speaker 1>The headwinds though of raising rates, the pressure that's putting

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<v Speaker 1>on valuations. Why are we at the bottom, Because I

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<v Speaker 1>believe text Doxor is the most over soul we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>in the last five or six years relative to growth,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think what's happened is the risk off trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's head for the elevators at the same time on

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<v Speaker 1>certainty obviously horrific situation Ukrain, the overall geopolitical but now

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<v Speaker 1>the Fed how they've laid it out, so now the

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<v Speaker 1>bulls and bears could debate it, but now there's less

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<v Speaker 1>uncertainty and combined with what we saw valuations, the compression

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<v Speaker 1>and the growth, you know, and then you look forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, especially in software chips some of the star

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<v Speaker 1>where it plays Microsoft, Google, Apple, among others. In our opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bright green light to earn tech and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what you're starting to see risk on. I

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<v Speaker 1>could tell you a four or five to one investors

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<v Speaker 1>calling us looking for bis versus shorts. Interesting, Dan, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about some other headwinds on the way.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so interesting. I think we're all trying to become

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<v Speaker 1>at nickel experts in the last few weeks, the impact

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<v Speaker 1>that it's having on electric vehicles as we're thinking not

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<v Speaker 1>only about oil shortages and cutting off supply from Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>but then the nickel imports as well. In the big

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<v Speaker 1>ramifications it's had in the markets. How do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about e VS batteries, the push forward on that initiative,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're struggling to get our hands on maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>of those raw materials, well, I think that's it's bringing

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<v Speaker 1>up the issue front and center because now price increases,

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<v Speaker 1>and you shut tests to put a price increase this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and you sat X playing and others. Because are the

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<v Speaker 1>average ev is going to increase? It's about anywhere between

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand. Given this, I think it also just speaks

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<v Speaker 1>to what we've seen in terms of raw materials. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see for other sources of raw materials, some could

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<v Speaker 1>say maybe underwater and some other maritime areas start to

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<v Speaker 1>get front and center. But when you look at e

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<v Speaker 1>VS overall, I still view this as not really denting

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<v Speaker 1>overall demand because I think overall, when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>gas and you look what happened in terms of what

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<v Speaker 1>we've see in Europe and across the US, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it pulls forward needy demand potentially by two to three years,

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<v Speaker 1>given what we've seen with a lot of fen sitting customers.

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<v Speaker 1>Price increases there and nickel, but overall the demand continues

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<v Speaker 1>to be just massively pen up. Any think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these stocks way over sold, Tesla front and center,

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<v Speaker 1>Except what about it wasn't Tesla but another EV maker

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<v Speaker 1>who tried to do price increases and then got some

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<v Speaker 1>backlash and had to roll it back. Are you worried

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<v Speaker 1>about a consumer who, maybe with broader inflation, is feeling

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<v Speaker 1>panged and says, no, I'm not going to accept that

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<v Speaker 1>price increase. How do you then think about the impact

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<v Speaker 1>on margins. Yeah, and when you talk about Rivy and

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<v Speaker 1>the price to increase in the media called but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that was a disaster. Try the thirteenth episode, which

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<v Speaker 1>continues to being the overhanging, the head scratcher in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of what they did. But when you look at Tesla,

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<v Speaker 1>I compare those price increases much more modest to the

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<v Speaker 1>likes of Netflix raising prices and what you saw an

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<v Speaker 1>app Amazon in terms of prime just stal warts know

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<v Speaker 1>that they can increase prices in minimal demand impact. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think you campaign across the board with the same brush.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Tesla in terms of price increases, we could

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<v Speaker 1>still see you know, the two to three k a

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<v Speaker 1>price increases and right now demands out stripping some Why

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<v Speaker 1>today by about Dan. I'ves web Bush really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Love getting you here on this program. Have a great

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<v Speaker 1>weekend coming up. We are going to be sticking with

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<v Speaker 1>sort of this theme of Ukraine and be talking to

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<v Speaker 1>the man behind the one Kate project. It helps Ukrainian

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<v Speaker 1>families who've been displaced by the war. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss how he's managed to get millions of dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>the hands of those who need it most. This is bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 1>As we watched day after day the horrific images that

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<v Speaker 1>come out of Ukraine, many have wondered how to help

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<v Speaker 1>mere days after Russia attacks Ukraine. My next guest decided

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<v Speaker 1>to help families in need by getting money directly to them.

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<v Speaker 1>He's helped more than two thousand families so far, all

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to people donating about a thousand dollars to sponsor

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<v Speaker 1>a family. Joining me now is alex Is called. He

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<v Speaker 1>is the founder of the one k Project. He was

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<v Speaker 1>also born and raised in Ukraine before fleeing the country

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<v Speaker 1>during the Cold War. So you unfortunately know all of

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<v Speaker 1>this too familiarly and talk to me about sort of

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<v Speaker 1>how you set this up to make sure that the

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<v Speaker 1>money really was going to those families. Yeah. Absolutely, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the premise of the project is simple. It's families

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<v Speaker 1>in US and around the world sending one key directly

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<v Speaker 1>to families in bucted by the war in Ukraine, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is sort of direct human to human help is

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to help families at scale. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you then make sure though, that it isn't overtaken by

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, people who were taking money away from it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because you want all of that money really to go

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<v Speaker 1>to those in need. How can you ensure the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are donating that that money, in a hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>of it is really going to those families. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a great question. And first off, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>an on profits, so we basically take no fees. We

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<v Speaker 1>match sponsors who go to one Key project dot org

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<v Speaker 1>and it literally takes ten minutes to sign up. We

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<v Speaker 1>then have a queue of families that were vetted based

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<v Speaker 1>on the applications, and our volunteers literally reading these application

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<v Speaker 1>applications around the clock. And so once you know, once

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<v Speaker 1>you sign up as a sponsor, you basically get matched

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<v Speaker 1>to the family and you get instructions for how to

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<v Speaker 1>send money directly to their bank. Account. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really a wonderful project that you're doing, Alex. I am

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<v Speaker 1>curious what you're hearing from families on the ground. We've

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<v Speaker 1>just seen the horrific images images after images. What they're

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<v Speaker 1>telling you about, how they're trying to continue to contact you,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to continue to talk to donors from around the

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<v Speaker 1>world while they are literally in the middle of a war. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and you're you're absolutely right. I mean, we we

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<v Speaker 1>are able to help families in war zones who lost

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<v Speaker 1>their homes, were able to help families who are displaced

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<v Speaker 1>with a new grain, and also families who are refugees.

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<v Speaker 1>And consistent thing that we're here we're hearing from them

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<v Speaker 1>is they need money for absolute basics like food, clothing

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<v Speaker 1>for children, grant and increasingly people in Ukraine need money

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to move out. And so we are

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely flooded with incredible gratitude and love that also underscores

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<v Speaker 1>really like strength and resilience of Ukrainian people and just

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<v Speaker 1>how meaningful this money is. A thousand dollars helps them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, helps families with like three to four people,

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<v Speaker 1>primarily you know, single mothers and people who just are

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<v Speaker 1>not able to generate income in any other way, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's exceptionally meaningful. Alex talk to us about that

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<v Speaker 1>long term resilience. We've been having a lot of conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>of course in the middle of this the humanitarian toll,

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<v Speaker 1>but long term, how you think. We just spoke with

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<v Speaker 1>the Economic advisor right to the President of Ukraine about

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<v Speaker 1>how you rebuild the roads, the bridges, the schools, the

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<v Speaker 1>apartment buildings. Long term, how are you thinking about helping

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of being able to rebuild if if people

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<v Speaker 1>can return to Ukraine at some point. Yeah, and you know, Taylor, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish we can stop tomorrow. I wish, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly wish every day the war stops immediately. But

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<v Speaker 1>the problem is devastation is so big and the displacement

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<v Speaker 1>is so large, There's so many refugees. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>take months and years to rebuild. And so the project

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<v Speaker 1>has its meaning and the North Star like, our goal

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<v Speaker 1>is to help as many families as we possibly can.

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<v Speaker 1>So to date we've been able to um We've raised

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<v Speaker 1>over two point seven million as of right now and

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<v Speaker 1>helped over families. We have thirty five thousand applications and

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<v Speaker 1>we know that there's about three million or more refugees,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we've got a really long way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, every thousand dollar counts because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can make a difference in an input. And so

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<v Speaker 1>our mission is to tenue through absolutely the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the war, but more importantly really be the bridge to

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<v Speaker 1>help these Ukrainian families to come back home and to rebuild.

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<v Speaker 1>Really well, said alex Is Cold, founder of the one

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<v Speaker 1>K Project for Ukraine. Really appreciate your time. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the return of in person events quick takes. Attison

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<v Speaker 1>Mills speaks to the south By Southwest attendees in Austin,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas as the conference returns for the first time since

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<v Speaker 1>the start of the pandemic. Take a listen. We're here

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<v Speaker 1>at south By Southwest in Austin, Texas for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time in three years now. This conference used to draw

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<v Speaker 1>over half a million people to the Austin area, but

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<v Speaker 1>in March it was canceled due to the pandemic. So

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<v Speaker 1>what's it like to be back. Let's talk to people

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<v Speaker 1>by out huge south By canceling twenty was like a

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<v Speaker 1>really big moment I thankful for like the world in

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<v Speaker 1>my career professionally was nine months planning and activation to

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<v Speaker 1>come back, and three days before we took off at

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<v Speaker 1>all canceled and you can feel the excitement in the air,

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<v Speaker 1>like people are really excited to be back and ready

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<v Speaker 1>to be back. How does it feel to be back

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<v Speaker 1>after three years of no South buy a really good

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<v Speaker 1>How often does this happen where people just take your picture?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean with this on, come on? So obviously canceled

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<v Speaker 1>back in we're back for the first time in three years.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the biggest change that you've noticed? People are definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more patient instead of being huddled up against

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<v Speaker 1>each other. There's just a really good energy here. Everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>really excited to see what the new exhibitions bring and

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<v Speaker 1>just seeing blockchain and n f t s and more

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<v Speaker 1>crypto coming to like the main front. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably the coolest thing. Do you feel like there's much

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<v Speaker 1>focus on COVID or people just kind of ready to

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<v Speaker 1>block it out nas Is, Texas. I don't think anybody's

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<v Speaker 1>too worried about it. It seems like there's a littless people. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't feel like it's quite as busy as it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a year's past, and I think there's also just

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<v Speaker 1>like the rules of of COVID and staying safe, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to have the clear up with us and

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<v Speaker 1>have masks and trying to navigate where and when it's

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<v Speaker 1>safe to be masked and unmasked. Mixed bag. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm seeing maths. I'm saying no math I think

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<v Speaker 1>people aren't excited to be back in person um. They're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do it as safely as possible. So whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like to them. I like that it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller scale. It doesn't feel as busy as other

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<v Speaker 1>south By. It's definitely a little bit smaller this time around.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, small crowds are bad for small businesses. Bars

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<v Speaker 1>and restaurants in Austin used to make half their yearly

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<v Speaker 1>revenue just from south By Southwest alone. That may be

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<v Speaker 1>harder with smaller crowds. But those who are here, including me,

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<v Speaker 1>are ready to dive right in a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>local bars over on Rainy Street. This is like their

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<v Speaker 1>life blood, these events. I'm super happy that we can

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<v Speaker 1>have it and get keep them in business. It seems

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<v Speaker 1>like business is back, and this is such a huge opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>such a huge travel destination. But I think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be really great for everybody. Quick takes Madison Mills, who

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<v Speaker 1>gets all the fun assignments. This is Blimberg Technology. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Riggs in New York in for Emily Chang and

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<v Speaker 1>Equal Pay Day. It was this week and it's an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to shed a new light on what more needs

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<v Speaker 1>to be done to ensure pay equity between men and women,

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<v Speaker 1>which is something my next guest has been fighting for

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<v Speaker 1>at Credit Carma ever since you joined the company back in.

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<v Speaker 1>Colleen McCreary, chief People Officer, joins us. Now, great to

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<v Speaker 1>have you, and I first want to start, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you think of Credit Carma and you think of

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<v Speaker 1>it's within the tech sector. And that's really, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>from my knowledge, where some of the worst discrepancies have

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<v Speaker 1>been when it comes to uh equal pay. What sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the backdrop of the numbers behind you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>only all sectors, but specifically tech sector as well, And

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<v Speaker 1>are we any closer to closing that gap? Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunate reality is that what we're still seeing is that

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<v Speaker 1>women only make up about what of what a man

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<v Speaker 1>makes um and almost any job. And and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily know if tech is any better or

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<v Speaker 1>any worse, but I think tech is so competitive that

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<v Speaker 1>it puts a big light on the talent shortage and

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they're not, you know, doing a great

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<v Speaker 1>job of keeping and retaining their women, which obviously will

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<v Speaker 1>come back down to how people are treated and how

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<v Speaker 1>they're paid. What did you do then in Credit carmas

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<v Speaker 1>you think about coming in in eighteen and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the changes that you've found that really have worked and

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<v Speaker 1>have stuck. Yes, So when I joined in eighteen, to

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<v Speaker 1>put it in perspective of Credit carmis history, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a start up for a long time. It was about

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred employees, and they had a massive attrition problem,

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<v Speaker 1>um so almost attrition and also recruiting problem. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the other piece was that their employees and employee surveys

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<v Speaker 1>didn't believe that their pay was fair. And frankly, when

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<v Speaker 1>I got there, I didn't understand how the employees were

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<v Speaker 1>being paid either, and so you know, it took a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a journey to get there. Uh, And we

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<v Speaker 1>moved to this system called role based pay, and instead

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<v Speaker 1>of using ranges and instead of using like a performance

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<v Speaker 1>review once a year and moving somebody's pay you five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars or two thousand dollars. There, everybody who is

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<v Speaker 1>in the same job gets paid the exact same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of how long they've been there and what gender

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<v Speaker 1>they are or where they worked before. Is that that

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<v Speaker 1>flash to that? Though? Sorry just to jump in. If

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<v Speaker 1>someone for longer and I've committed and I've devoted myself

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<v Speaker 1>to this company, I think that's a great question. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>what we've seen as the opposite, our attrition, frankly, even

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<v Speaker 1>now is the lowest it's ever been. UM. And the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing that we saw is that the offers that

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<v Speaker 1>were accepted, uh. And what we you know, for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, employees really embraced the idea that they thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was the most fair way of being rewarded, and

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<v Speaker 1>they they understood where their pay came from, how we

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<v Speaker 1>were determining it, and we reviewed it twice a year

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<v Speaker 1>and made adjustments. UM. And so we saw the act

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<v Speaker 1>opposite of what you're explaining. Interesting, how do you compensate

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<v Speaker 1>then for experience? I know that we talked some about

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<v Speaker 1>loyalty to a company, but take that out someone just

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<v Speaker 1>who's has more time and maybe more knowledge in the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you argue then that, well, they're at a different

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<v Speaker 1>role with the higher pay, and that's sort of how

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<v Speaker 1>you can sort of equalize, uh, that experience gap. So

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<v Speaker 1>what we did is actually we've built a job framework

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<v Speaker 1>for all of our functions and we got very clear

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<v Speaker 1>on what was expected of each role, and so where

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<v Speaker 1>somebody interviews and they come in, they're slotted in. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a software engineer, maybe you're a software engineer

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<v Speaker 1>one or your software engineer four, and it's based on,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a combination of your experience, what your skills

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<v Speaker 1>for that role. And we posted those so that people

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<v Speaker 1>were very clear and what the expectations were. And we

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<v Speaker 1>moved to doing promotions four times a year so people

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<v Speaker 1>weren't sitting around waiting to be recognized for their work,

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<v Speaker 1>and providing that level of clarity and the opportunity of

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<v Speaker 1>knowing when they were going to be reviewed and building

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<v Speaker 1>out an actual calibration so that everybody who's being considered

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<v Speaker 1>for promotion at that point in time was being considered

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<v Speaker 1>against the same framework and each and every team that

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<v Speaker 1>we had, and then we were able to assess and

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<v Speaker 1>root out if there were potential for biases, and how

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<v Speaker 1>do we necessarily make sure that all of the managers

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<v Speaker 1>are looking for the right skills. But providing that transparency

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<v Speaker 1>and clarity to employees really helped a lot in making

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<v Speaker 1>people believe and understand that they were being paid equitably

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<v Speaker 1>for their experience and their contribution. I think the keyword

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<v Speaker 1>you said is transparency. And I think in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe companies have said that you don't talk about your

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<v Speaker 1>pay with other people, and corporations haven't always told other

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<v Speaker 1>people what their colleague is making. How much of this

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<v Speaker 1>really does come back down to transparency, maybe on the

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<v Speaker 1>corporation's side. Well, I mean, first of all, it's illegal

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<v Speaker 1>for corporations to tel employees that they can't talk to

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<v Speaker 1>each other about their pay. I actually think employees should

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<v Speaker 1>talk to each other. I personally don't put somebody's pay

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<v Speaker 1>up on a corporate internet site or say you know

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<v Speaker 1>what everybody is making. You can't unsee pay decisions. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think at the end of the day, frankly, compensation

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<v Speaker 1>is inherently an unfair thing. It's market driven, it's supply

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<v Speaker 1>and demand. But I'm not going to out somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>is not comfortable with somebody else seeing what they're paid,

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<v Speaker 1>but if they want to share it amongst themselves, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a great skill and I think it really

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<v Speaker 1>drives on you know, it's a check on the you know, corporation.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they doing the right thing? Are we living our

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<v Speaker 1>values and what we've stated. And also then employees can

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<v Speaker 1>potentially understand amongst themselves, you know, how each role does pay.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of our viewers are investors, and I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>as we think about the rise of e SC maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the role that pay equity has to do with sort

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<v Speaker 1>of trickling down not only to the top and then

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom line. What advice would you give companies

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the positive changes they can make and

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of then positive impact it may have on

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<v Speaker 1>the company and the bottom line. Well, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>would you know, start with that pay program that we

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<v Speaker 1>put into place. You know, if we reduced attrition by

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<v Speaker 1>two thirds as soon as we roll this out um,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like I said, our acceptance rate went up

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<v Speaker 1>quite substantially for offers being acceptance, So just from a

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<v Speaker 1>talent perspective of keeping and attracting the right employees, which

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<v Speaker 1>certainly has an impact on your bottom line, and if

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<v Speaker 1>I look at Credit Carma in particular, we definitely had

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<v Speaker 1>a rough twenty with COVID. We were affected by the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going through an acquisition by into It at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But since then, you know, we've had record quarters in

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<v Speaker 1>one and into two, so and I think, you know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that speaks to the talent that we've

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<v Speaker 1>been able to attract and to keep in our business.

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<v Speaker 1>Really appreciate it, Colleen McQuary, the Credit Carma Chief People officer,

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate your time. Now let's move on by Well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going south, going south by southwest today, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>bring you the company which won the Best Content in

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<v Speaker 1>Gaming Startup rewarded this year's Pitch contest. Action Faces, the

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<v Speaker 1>first three D scanning map that instantly transforms users into

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<v Speaker 1>three D action figures and they can customize and purchase.

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg's Quick Take caught up with CEO Kenny Davis at

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<v Speaker 1>the event. Take a listen. What we do is we

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<v Speaker 1>three D scan you with phone in your pocket and

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<v Speaker 1>then allow you to customize the heroic version of you,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like making a video game avatar. When you're ready,

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<v Speaker 1>make your action face as long as the entertainment industry

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<v Speaker 1>has existed, there's been this sort of business problem, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that you can't just make one hero that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>can identify with. And so the sea change for the

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment industry is, what if you could make every person

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<v Speaker 1>the hero? And one of the things that's important to

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<v Speaker 1>understand about what we're doing is we are making action

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<v Speaker 1>figures who are also creating a digital version of each

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<v Speaker 1>person that can be used across media. Ultimately, what we're

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<v Speaker 1>building is that sort of on ramp into the metaverse.

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<v Speaker 1>So I worked for MATEL and I work for Hasbro.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time a v I P would visit, whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was the CEO of a big retailer or a celebrity,

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<v Speaker 1>we would make them a doll or an action figure

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<v Speaker 1>that look like them because everybody loves seeing themselves in

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of heroic world. So we knew people had

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<v Speaker 1>understood the concept immediately and that if we could just

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<v Speaker 1>scale that business, then you know, we had a hit

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<v Speaker 1>on our hands. The problem was that just the manual

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<v Speaker 1>labor and the supply chain issues of the technology at

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<v Speaker 1>the time couldn't scale. So in two thousand eighteen, Apple

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<v Speaker 1>added face i D hardware to their iPhones, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I saw the opportunity and I recruited this dream

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<v Speaker 1>team to bring this to life. We are so honored

0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to be here at south By Southwest who've just won

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<v Speaker 1>the Pitch competition in the Entertainment Content and Gaming category.

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<v Speaker 1>So the next thing for us to do is we're

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<v Speaker 1>raising a little bit of money so that we can

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<v Speaker 1>take this experience and bring it to stadiums and theme parks.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine going to a stadium, getting yourself three D scan

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<v Speaker 1>and then during the TV break seeing your animation up

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<v Speaker 1>on the Jungo tron. This is what we want to

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<v Speaker 1>start bringing to people. Like I said, she always gets

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<v Speaker 1>the fun assignments. That was Action Faced CEO Kenny Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>south By Southwest and coming up Bitcoin, it's stuck in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a trading range here with the

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<v Speaker 1>FED signaling additional tightening and yes, increasing interest rates. What

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<v Speaker 1>can help jump start the crypto industry once again? Big

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>discussion coming up next. This is Limburg time now for

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<v Speaker 1>a crypto report. You think it's the weekend, the crypto

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't stop trading wild weekend ahead, I'm sure. Let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at some of these markets of course with

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>our crypto contributor Snali boss Taken Sharlie. We've been talking

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot about this program. You've been nice to anchor

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<v Speaker 1>with us all day in the afternoon, pretty much all

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>week about some of the rate hikes, all of the

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>geopolitical uncertainty, and yet maybe some resiliency within these crypto markets. Yes,

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>finally a lift back up in crypto markets after crypto winter.

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<v Speaker 1>So we look at that rise back up back above dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>You do see a little bit of a dip tailor

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<v Speaker 1>going into the weekend. But you know, this rise back

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<v Speaker 1>up this year, it's not just helped Bitcoin, it has

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>helped companies related to bitcoin. So if we take a

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<v Speaker 1>look at the next screen here, let's look at backed

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<v Speaker 1>So a company here that just pretty recently one public

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<v Speaker 1>last year, has started to see that lift in more

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<v Speaker 1>recent days, recent weeks, pretty significant rises if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the tail end there after riding the way down

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>alongside crypto winder. Let's take a look at more of

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<v Speaker 1>this now, with this adoption curve moving forward, what can

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<v Speaker 1>give crypto the next leg higher? We have back back

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<v Speaker 1>CEO Gavin, Michael Gavin, thank you so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you think about the next couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 1>and months when it comes to cryptocurrency and the types

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<v Speaker 1>of companies, countries and people that may adapt it in

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<v Speaker 1>order to give it that next leg. Yeah, great to

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<v Speaker 1>be here, Thanks for having me. You know, when we

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<v Speaker 1>think about it through the lens of backt we're really

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<v Speaker 1>working to connect the digital economy. We're trying to bring

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<v Speaker 1>innovative crypto experiences to the customers of non crypto native businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're bringing crypto capabilities to your local and

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>regional banks and credit unions. We're working with brands to

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<v Speaker 1>enable crypto rewards, changing the way people can enter the

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<v Speaker 1>asset class through this passive acquisition. Through using everyday spend

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 1>is a way to accumulate a small amount of crypto.

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<v Speaker 1>We're even enabling gig economy workers to really get paid

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<v Speaker 1>a portion of their salary and cryptos will be incentive

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<v Speaker 1>in crypto. So I think when you look at adoption,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing is broadening the base by trying to

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<v Speaker 1>create these new opportunities for people to enter the asset class.

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<v Speaker 1>There's still a lot of frictions, Gavin, when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at being paid in crypto or paying for products and

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<v Speaker 1>services in crypto, taxation being among them, what can start

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<v Speaker 1>to make it easier for money to move through crypto

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<v Speaker 1>markets rather than through traditional dollars. So I think the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing you've got to look at is volume. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>people and businesses in particular focus less on the volatility

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<v Speaker 1>and more on the volume that they're seeing in the

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<v Speaker 1>overall crypto economy. Our role in this connective tissue, in

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<v Speaker 1>playing the role of connecting the digital economy, is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to seek to remove as much friction as possible. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we take care of the tax We make it easy

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<v Speaker 1>for people when they're selling to be able to complete

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<v Speaker 1>the necessary very tax obligations. We're working to make it

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<v Speaker 1>easy for businesses to be able to accept crypto, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we're looking for other ways in which businesses can

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<v Speaker 1>engage and create these innovative experiences, you know, like rewarding

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<v Speaker 1>in crypto, and when we think about that, we think

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<v Speaker 1>about the ability for people to be able to redeem

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<v Speaker 1>for crypto as well as earned rewards in crypto. So

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<v Speaker 1>our role is to take the friction out. It's to

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<v Speaker 1>allow us to embed these experiences in the environments where

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<v Speaker 1>consumers already are want to meet customers where they are,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whether that be embedding the ability to buy

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<v Speaker 1>sal crypto and your local banking application, or simply attach

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<v Speaker 1>a crypto reward option to the credit card or debit

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<v Speaker 1>card that you know and love. Part of that meeting

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<v Speaker 1>the customer where they are has been renewed conversations around

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<v Speaker 1>privacy and regulation. When it comes to Russia's vision in Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 1>some people would say it's a great way to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>some of the sanctions. Others would say it's a great

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<v Speaker 1>way to send money in crypto to the people on

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the ground who need it most. How do you think

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>about that? So one of our our founding principles is

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<v Speaker 1>that crypto as an asset class is going to mature

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<v Speaker 1>much faster in an atmosphere where we prioritize regulation, compliance

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<v Speaker 1>and security. You know, we've built those principles into our

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>platform from day one, and you know, our former parent

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>company Ice really engendered that thinking in everything we do.

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>So we've made sure that we have the right infrastructure

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:39.240
<v Speaker 1>in place to really build that trust and security. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we operate under a chust tittle. We have a bit

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<v Speaker 1>licensed from n y d f S, We have money

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<v Speaker 1>transmittal licenses across the US, and we really are focused

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<v Speaker 1>on being highly regulatory, compliance and secure. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we look at the opportunity for US to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to help regulators better understand digital assets, to develop regulation

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<v Speaker 1>that creates safety and soundness in the financial system, and

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<v Speaker 1>we want to be able to ensure that we keep

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<v Speaker 1>that agility in the core of everything we do. My

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:14.879
<v Speaker 1>colleague here, Schinelli Bossi, of course did speak with mag

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<v Speaker 1>novograts earlier about cryptocurrencies. Take a listen to what he

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<v Speaker 1>had to say. The whole year, I thought we gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a thirty thousand fifty thousand range in bitcoin risk

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<v Speaker 1>to the upside, not the downside. Um, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>you know, five years out, if bitcoin is not at

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand, I'm wrong. On the adoption cycle, uh right,

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<v Speaker 1>we see an adoption cycle that accelerates. Bitcoin grew so

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<v Speaker 1>much faster last year, Crypto grew than the Internet did

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<v Speaker 1>its best years in the nineties. Hey did come, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want price? But is the price keeping up with

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<v Speaker 1>that adoption cycle that he described? So I think what

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<v Speaker 1>we can say Taylor as mess adoption is definitely here.

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<v Speaker 1>We're moving through an inflection point. We've seen a steady

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<v Speaker 1>uptick in is that are buying cryptocurrency, and we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>that for quite some time, and the volume of transactions

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<v Speaker 1>is an important measure because for US, as volume increases steadily,

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<v Speaker 1>it really starts to signal that interest in velocity. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're really focused on driving that next wave of adoption,

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in the crypto curious, a slightly older demographic, potentially

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>someone who's potentially less tech savvy, and we're looking for

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 1>new ways to introduce those into the crypto economy. You know,

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>we we look at price and obviously we're focused on

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the volatility, but we're more focused on growing volume overall

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>because we think that's where we reach that sustainability point.

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 1>But there's no question that mass adoption is here and

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 1>we're moving through that that inflection point. Really appreciate it

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 1>back CEO Gavin Michael and of course are very on

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg's appreciate both your time. Apple has launched its first

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<v Speaker 1>new products, including new iPhone scs and iPad airs with

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<v Speaker 1>five G and faster chips, Green iPhone, thirteens, the Max Studio,

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<v Speaker 1>a new monitor, and of course the m one Ultra process.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the new SC doesn't really move the needle

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<v Speaker 1>much because at this point I still believe five G

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.800
<v Speaker 1>is still a marketing tactic, and the other SC upgrades

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<v Speaker 1>are not that significant. The new Air is nearly identical

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<v Speaker 1>to the eleven inch I Pad Pro, so if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in the market for a ten to eleven inch tablet,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd probably go at the Air instead of the Pro

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<v Speaker 1>and say that extra two dollars of cash. I really

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<v Speaker 1>do like the new Alpine Green iPhone Pro color, and

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<v Speaker 1>I do hope it sticks around for the iPhone fourteen

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.799
<v Speaker 1>this fall, and the Max studio really shows us how

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<v Speaker 1>much Intel was holding Apple back in the Mac chip department. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the new displays point is fairly reasonable within the Apple ecosystem.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the world's best. See when you realize that

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<v Speaker 1>an iMac with a full M one inside is a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars less. Looking ahead, Apple's new M one Altra

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<v Speaker 1>chip sets the stage for a slew of M two

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<v Speaker 1>Max that would include an M two Macokair, Mac Mini,

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen inch MacBook Pro, and twenty four inch iMac, along

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<v Speaker 1>with an M two based Mac Pro with as many

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>as forty eight CPU cors. Apple's also working on a

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<v Speaker 1>new high end pro xdr display to attach to that

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<v Speaker 1>Mac Pro, and the next year we should also get

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<v Speaker 1>new high end MacBook pros and iMac pros with M

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<v Speaker 1>two Pro and M two Max chips, along with eventually

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.800
<v Speaker 1>a new Mac Studio with an M to Ultra. Apple's

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<v Speaker 1>new chips are clearly outpacing rivals, and they're at the

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:46.399
<v Speaker 1>very core both Apple's present and future, and I'm very

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 1>much looking forward to seeing how the chip ro map

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<v Speaker 1>continues to take shape in the coming years. I'm Mark German.

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<v Speaker 1>This is power On and Don't forget. You can subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>There are a few other stories, of course, that we're watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Take a look at in video. Having one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best weeks since the start of the pandemic, shares rallied

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday, with the chip maker extending a recent advance

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<v Speaker 1>as analysts all look ahead to the company's GtC conference

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<v Speaker 1>and investor events next week. Shares her up about six

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<v Speaker 1>percent on the day, nearly twenty percent for the week,

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<v Speaker 1>putting it on track for its biggest weekly percent games

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<v Speaker 1>since March. And we are approaching one week since another

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<v Speaker 1>giant container ship owned by Evergreen It has been stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in the Chesapeake Bay near Baltimore. The ship, absolutely named

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<v Speaker 1>Evergreen Forward, has been stuck since Sunday night. In hopes

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<v Speaker 1>of getting it unstuck, Evergreen Marine has hired the same

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<v Speaker 1>company it used to free three other giant container ships

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<v Speaker 1>when it ran aground in the Suaves Canal last year.

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<v Speaker 1>And we all remember that it disrupted global trade for months.

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<v Speaker 1>That does it. For this edition of Bloomberg Technology, Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street Week next with one of my favorite colleagues, David Weston.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll be joined by Shnoli Dasai from Franklin Templeton, Joanne

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<v Speaker 1>Peeny from Advisor's Capital, and Rick Reader, ce IO at

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<v Speaker 1>black Rock, as well as former Treasury Secretary Larry Summer

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<v Speaker 1>is Big Week from the Federal Reserve. I know they'll

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<v Speaker 1>touch on it. Plus we listen to today's show on

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<v Speaker 1>the new Bloomberg Technology podcast. It's new. It's great. You

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