1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast could fit in Kyler Murray's Hillnet. 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast, 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: presented by the United States Marine Corps. My name is 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Dan Hanss. I come to you from a virtual room 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Leez? 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: You know that that phrase that we tried out pretty 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: much weekly at this point, Bill purselves that the season 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: doesn't start until Thanksgiving? That that means it? This is it, 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: This is our last week of the preseason. Get Ready? 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: I take offense to that because I feel like we 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: have been grinding essentially since like Corona draped the landscape. 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: He remember, the pro football season does not start after 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: you eat your turkey back after this something like that, 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: which is you know what, It's true on some level 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: because it is when the cream rises to the top 16 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: here in our league and you really get a better 17 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: idea of how the playoffs gonna look. Who are the 18 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: real monsters. But then again, when you look at where 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: we are entering week eleven, we have a pretty good 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: idea of who the major players are gonna be. It 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: just it comes down to who is a team that 22 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: is gonna go nuts through the end of the regular season, 23 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: that maybe isn't there yet. Mark, I have a feeling 24 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: I know which team you believe it to be. And 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the Miami Dolphins a little bit later, 26 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: but maybe it's a team we haven't thought of yet 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: or hasn't presented itself. So that's see, that's the fun thing. 28 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: And we're gonna get into all the games coming up 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: here in week eleven on Sunday and on Monday. Of course, 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: you can also check out our Thursday night football recap, 31 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: great game Cardinals Seahawks, that the Quiet Storm and I 32 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: are on the mic and maybe a mystery guest and 33 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: so stay team. Done that. But let's now put our 34 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: focus where it needs to be and let's start before 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: we get to our draft. Let's start with the prime 36 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: time games and listen this this is a special game. 37 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: I am so excited, uh for Chiefs at Raiders. I 38 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: mean after what we saw in Week five when the 39 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: Raiders went to Arrowhead and stunned the Chiefs and it 40 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: wasn't a flukey win. It was not a fluke uWin. 41 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: They outplayed the Chiefs and they caught the Chiefs maybe 42 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: on a bad day, but the Raiders played great. And 43 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: what we've seen since then is the Raiders continue to 44 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: grow as a team and establish an identity physical Uh, 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: run the football, UH, make plays on defense. Uh. And 46 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: I think they have a shot here. I know the Chiefs, obviously, 47 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: Greg are the favorite, uh and they deserve to be. 48 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: The Desert thinks very highly of them in this game. 49 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: But I don't see a blow out here. I just don't. 50 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily, Although the COVID issues with the Raiders 51 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: is something to watch out for. A lot of the 52 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: players out of the facility this week that hoped to 53 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: be back for Sunday night. I hope they are because 54 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: their defense has played better. Uh. You mentioned it, like 55 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: Nick Kuikkowski, Jeff Heath. Like they're stepping up there making 56 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: some plays. But I don't know if it's gonna be 57 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: enough against the Chiefs team, who I think deserve a 58 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: lot of credit for how they've responded to that game. 59 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: And when I think about the Chiefs, I think about 60 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: how the guys who got paid this offseason are all 61 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: paid playing like superstars. It's a little underrated. You get 62 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: a monster contract right after winning the Super Bowl, And 63 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: is there any let down know. Patrick Mahomes is right 64 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: in line to be in the m v P conversation. 65 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: Chris Jones, to me is the best defensive interior pass 66 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: rusher in the NFL other than Aaron Donald. He is 67 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: playing that well. I think it's has been his best season. 68 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: And then you look at Travis Kelsey, like everyone just 69 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: kind of takes Travis Kelsey for grant. Oh, yeah, of 70 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: course he's good. He is on pace for the best yardage, 71 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: the most receptions in his entire career. And so when 72 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: you look at the Chiefs best players, if they show 73 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: up to me, they still have too much firepower for 74 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Well, I'm with you, and and I sensed 75 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: disdain um from the Chiefs towards the Raiders, and I 76 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: you know, I believe in certain types of revenge games. 77 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: I don't believe in like Duke Johnson going to Cleveland 78 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: and having a revenge game. But I do here because 79 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: on Monday, Andy Reid bristled when he was asked about 80 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: the Raiders um. After that October eleventh victory. They took 81 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: their little bus and circled it around Arrowhead Stadium twice, 82 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: annoying the Chiefs. I guess the bus driver, maybe um 83 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: through some jabs at the Raiders before the game or 84 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: something UM read was annoyed by it to the point 85 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: where John Cruden had to say, this is ridiculous, that's 86 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: not a narrative. I would be a little concerned though, 87 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: because in that first meeting, car through for like three 88 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards. The whole thing was the aggressive 89 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: passing game. He's had a hundred and sixty or less 90 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: and three street straight games. So to me, it's certain 91 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: this this this Raider's offense. They are running the ball better, 92 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: but can they achieve that balance and what probably will 93 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: be a game that asked them to air it out? 94 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: I think they can and I think a lot of 95 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: that is game plan driven. Why cars numbers have been down. 96 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't think it's because he's playing worst the last 97 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: few weeks. I just think they're in a good spot 98 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: and they're playing with a lot of confidence, and I 99 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: think that's why this is the perfect time to get 100 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Having that win, maybe they shouldn't have taken 101 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: the bus around the stadium, but you know what, that 102 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: was a big win for an organization that had been 103 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: down with dumps uh for several years and it was 104 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 1: the signature win of Gruden's tenure there to this point. 105 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: So I'm not even gonna get get on them too 106 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: much for that. I'm back to the Chief's offense. One 107 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: interesting thing to me, Um Clyde Edwards Hilaire, their rookie 108 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: running back. It's interesting how that backfield is coming together 109 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: because his snaps have gone down since Levian Bell arrived. 110 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: But it's not really about Levan Bell at this point. Um. 111 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: There were two Blue two blowouts and then last their 112 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: last game before the bye. Uh Arl Williams was the 113 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: guy that was get in love and getting play and C. 114 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: E h was down the snaps. So maybe this is 115 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: becoming a situation and your fantasy team is probably not 116 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: gonna like this if you if you've bet on Clyde 117 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: Edwards Claire big that this is a committee backfield, but 118 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily one where leave Bell has been the 119 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: one that's changed things well, and you save them a 120 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: little bit for the end of the year. Look, uh 121 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: Andy Reid doesn't care about all those people that got excited. 122 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: Hankins like I took C. E h Number one. Overall, 123 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, let's calm down. And let's have the 124 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: season play out there a past first team. They change 125 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: it up depending on the opponent. They can do whatever 126 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: they want. And it's one of the reasons I feel 127 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: so good like you. You seem like you give the 128 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: Raiders much of a chance. I don't. And that's why 129 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if I can lock it up. Am 130 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: I allowed to lock up the Chiefs on the road 131 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: in prime time? Well, do you have a mirror in 132 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: your did you look in the mirror and did you 133 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 1: see your reflection game last time? Greg, I'm only asking 134 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: me a question. See, the fact that you're defensive makes 135 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: me a little worried. And Mark, I think you probably 136 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: agree with me. When you look, do you see your reflection? Yeah? 137 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: I think everyone here has had the game or two 138 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: where Um, you know they they're on the edge. I 139 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: don't think Patrick Mahomes is gonna make Jeff Heath look 140 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: like Troy Paulamalu this week. As as what happened last week, Greg, 141 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: if you can live with it, you can live with it, um, 142 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: but take the Chiefs in this game. You can never 143 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: take them. Essentially, they're playing a team that beat him 144 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: earlier this year in Arrowhead all this Raiders talk. You know, Dan, 145 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: help us out here. Listen. The lock has never been 146 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: about what other people think. It's what you think about yourself. 147 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: And if you're a comfortable with it, you lock up 148 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: the defending world champion Chiefs. And that's good. All right, 149 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: let's move on. I actually don't have a huge issue 150 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: with it for all the reasons I laid out, Greg. 151 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: I like the Raiders. I like this team. Let's let's 152 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: get into the other primetime game, Monday Night Football, and 153 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: this one is fun. The Los Angeles Rams at the 154 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. One great defense against really a balanced 155 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay team, but an offense that is coming off 156 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: a game where they totaled five and forty four yards 157 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: and forty six points against the Panthers and didn't even 158 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: hit their top gear. They left points on the field 159 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: if you'd believe that. So obviously, Tampa, when they're right 160 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler can do bad things to anyone, including an 161 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald Donald Jalen Ramsey team. However, however, we cannot 162 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: look past the struggles that Tampa has had in prime time. 163 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: And I don't care what Patrick Claiban says, uh they 164 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: have struggled when the lights have been on and it's on. 165 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians is radar. I can tell you that. Yeah, 166 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: I mean arians is having them practice at night to 167 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: uh simulate that, and I mean it kind of makes sense. 168 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: You said they have had a team of roster players 169 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: that haven't had the same nighttime game exposure that say 170 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: Tom Brady has, who's played in prime time roughly five 171 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty times. I like this match up. I've 172 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: had some issues with the Rams. I want to see 173 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: them win a game that creates buying for those who 174 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: look at the Rams and say you're just a wild 175 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: card type team that's gonna get, you know, knocked off 176 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: at some point. This would do it for me. And 177 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: I think they've gotten into that. You mentioned the Jalen 178 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: Ramsey thing. I mean, what he did against DK Metcalf 179 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: last week was phenomenal. That's why you give it. You 180 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: give up those draft picks for him, And so I 181 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: think that's an X factor here because this is a 182 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: different type of offense. What do you do you take 183 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: away Chris Godwin, Mike Evans, Antonio Brown, You've got Gronk. 184 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think we're gonna get Jalen Ramsey 185 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: on Scottie Miller too often, but someone's gonna have to 186 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: deal with the best cover man in football right now. 187 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: They also love Darius Williams, who blew up last week. 188 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: I like this Rams defense and the idea that this 189 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: game could be close in the fourth quarter, and that 190 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: Rams running game. It truly, it truly was a running 191 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: back by committee last week, Greg and so I think 192 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: they can keep that happening as well. Against the tough 193 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: Bucks defense, they got a chance. I think you put 194 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: Ramsey on Mike Evans because Ramsey is so good against 195 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: those physical receivers. But that still leaves Godwin and Antonio Brown. 196 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: What you get the feeling that Brady trust those two 197 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: guys more. I mean he loves throwing. Antonio Brown, who, 198 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: by the way, has looked like a guy who's coming 199 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: along and is going to help this team. All of 200 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: them made big time plays for him. So taking Evans 201 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: out of the game like, that's great. Darius Williams has 202 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: been great all year, though this guy's the closer. I mean, 203 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: it's a great matchup because Brady, he missed all those 204 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: deep throws last week. People killed him for it was 205 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: all those plays where because he was moved off his 206 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: spot because the Panthers actually got him to move outside 207 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: the pocket. He's not hitting anyone when that happens. And 208 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: it's kind of the same for the Rams quarterback Jared 209 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: goff too. I mean, I I don't mean to just 210 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: throw it back to Mark here. Dan, I don't want 211 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: to just leave you out of the mix, but talk 212 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: about Mark's Jared goff obsession, like he's just like so 213 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: mean to Jared Gofflin Christmas. This should be Christmas for 214 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler because it's Jared goff against like the best 215 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: flitzing team in the league, which spells trouble. It's it's 216 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: kind of an ugly side of Mark that comes out 217 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: when Jared Gofflin comes. Jared goff lives on like a fantastic, 218 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: like thirty acre orchard in Malibu. I don't think he 219 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: cares whether or not. I'm you know, in love with 220 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: what he's doing in this offense. I just think, compared 221 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: to some quarterbacks picked first overall into year four whatever, 222 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: that he's just attached to Sean McVeigh and I want 223 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: to see him operate a little differently. That's I mean, 224 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: I thought that that would happened against the Dolphins would 225 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: be really concerning to two Rams fans, and can the 226 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: Bucks go and mimic that, because if you make Jared 227 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: Goff uncomfortable, the result is not good. It's been negative 228 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: and it's and it's limited what the Rams can do. 229 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: I think they are a more balanced team than they 230 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: have been in years past. Though I think you're you 231 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: are a little bit hard on l A. It's been 232 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: that way for a couple of years. And you say 233 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: you need to buy and win, Well, no one was 234 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: higher on the Seahawks than Mark Sessler a couple of 235 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: weeks ago. So if if that's not the buy and win, 236 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: maybe this will be the one that does it. That's fair. 237 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: I mean that you know what listen that that was. 238 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: That was a step And you can't just say the 239 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: Rams are a team that's just beaten up on the 240 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: NFC East. It's not the case. So I hear you. 241 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm not anti Rams. I just want 242 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: to see them become one of those teams in the 243 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: NFC that fascinates me and builds trust. And I think 244 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: a number of Rams fans that are level headed would agree. 245 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: There's six and three though you didn't think they were 246 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: a playoff team. Not many people did come into the season. 247 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: So maybe I have maybe my read on this team. 248 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: Maybe my read on the Rams is just like we 249 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: should be, you know, taking someone else's read because I 250 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: could be completely wrong. That wouldn't be the first you 251 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: should mention. Andrew Wentworth is not in this game, and 252 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: that is a massive problem for for the Rams offensive, 253 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: especially in this match. I mean, if they could win 254 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: in Tampa, I would be surprised. Uh and it would 255 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: say quite a bit. And one more point on Antonio Brown, 256 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: and I know, I mean the guy he's a knucklehead obviously, 257 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: and there was that report of him destroying property at 258 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: his apartment. I can't, I mean, I can't track it 259 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: with this guy anymore. It's not enough to get him 260 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: kicked off the team apparently. But don't read into his 261 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: fairly pedestrian numbers the first two weeks and say Antonio 262 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: Brown is not a difference maker on this offense. I 263 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: think he had six catches on seven targets last week, 264 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: and the seventh target he was opened for a fifty 265 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: yard touchdown that Brady missed. So Antonio Brown looks damn 266 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: good and keep an eye on him in prime time. Alright, 267 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: now that we've got the primetime games out of the way, 268 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: let's move to our draft, and as luck would have it, 269 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: for Old Rosie, as he's called by some, I prefer Greggy. 270 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: You got the first pick, buddy. My mom prefers Greggy too. 271 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: It's just you and her that called me that. I 272 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: am so excited I have the first pick because this 273 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: is my favorite game of the entire season. It's Falcon Saints. 274 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: You knew where I was going. I've been talking about 275 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: this Falcon Saints rivalry as the best rivalry in football 276 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: on our podcast since we started having a podcast, and 277 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: it's always because it's a little crazy, like you know, 278 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: out the records when the Falcons and Saints play. It 279 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: really is throughout the records because even last year on Thanksgiving, 280 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: when the Falcons were at their lowest and the Saints 281 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: were at their highest, the Falcons found a way to win. 282 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: And now you sprinkle in a little Jamis Winston into 283 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: these two franchises that despise each other and these two 284 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: fan bases, and it's gonna get weird. I don't know 285 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: how uh much to put into Jamis Winston and Taysom 286 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: Hill's tag team in the second half of last week. 287 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying not to put too much into it because 288 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: it was ugly. Jamis did not look ready, and it 289 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: made me think, like, I think people are excited, including me, 290 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: to see Jamis Winston and the Sean Payton offense, But 291 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be bombs away Jamis 292 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: that he was in Tampa. He's gonna have to get 293 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: used to this danking, dunk, you know, controlled style of play, 294 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: and that's not really what Jamis does, and you're throwing 295 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill in there all the time. It makes me 296 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: a little worried about what this batchup is gonna be. Like, 297 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: I know, everyone sort of says like, I trust Sean Payton, 298 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, to use the week to create a scheme 299 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: that allows Jamis to be successful. I mean, he did 300 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: that with Teddy Bridgewater last year and really helped Teddy 301 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: Bridgewater get a starting job. So I think there is 302 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: trust and Sean Payton more than coach X. I mean, 303 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: I'd put him in the top two or three in 304 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: the league to create something this week. I think the 305 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill thing, you know, he's actually had some positive plays, 306 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: but the perception on him is basically baked into a 307 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: pie right now. People are annoyed with him on Twitter. 308 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: I get that, um, he can be used successfully, but well, 309 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean just the perception. It's like, oh, we're annoyed 310 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: that where everyone no matter what he does, everyone's gotta 311 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: like have their little giggles and laugh. People love pie, though, 312 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: who doesn't love pie? Well maybe it's a pie with 313 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: any People don't like Taysom Hill for some reason. I 314 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: know exactly, Mark saying there's a bit of edge to 315 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: the Taysom Hill analysis. He does have four fumbles, and 316 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: he has four fumbles. It's not that it's more than anyone. 317 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: It's true, Greg, if if Taysom Hill were actually baked 318 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: into a pie, you wouldn't eat that. By the way, 319 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not sure where I'm going with 320 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: that argument. I want to see how they how they 321 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: deal with these two quarterbacks. But I mean the I 322 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: get the idea that anyone can win, um in a 323 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: quarterback thing makes it a true X factor. But the 324 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: Saints defense right now is warming up, and I just 325 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: I trust them. I know that. Raheem Morris said the 326 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: dirty Birds are back, and that may be true, but 327 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: they're not entirely back. I mean, they're a hot and 328 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: cold operation. If I've seen one, well, they've been pretty 329 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: hot with Raheem Morris. So that's why it's a very 330 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: interesting matchup. And you know, like they say, I feel 331 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: like a speaking of Patrick Clammon, something he would hate 332 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: was saying throwing out all the record books. I feel 333 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: like you said, the record still be there. Um. But anyway, 334 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: here's why I love this game. I don't know if 335 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: it's a first overall pick love game, but the range 336 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: of outcomes for Jamis Winston and the Saints is so high. 337 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: It could be it could get to the point where 338 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: he plays so well that Drew Brees gets healthy and 339 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: the head coach goes, uh, I think we're gonna stay 340 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: with this guy because he brings something to our offense 341 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: that we didn't have anymore with Drew Brees. It could 342 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: be so bad that he ruins their season because Drew Brees. 343 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: It sounds like we're hearing reports he's gonna miss multiple 344 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: weeks and it might just be enough where, you know, 345 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: cost him a division title and someone comes up and 346 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: gets them and then puts them on the road in 347 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs and away we go, or it just kind 348 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: of keeps them steady like what Teddy Bridgewater did last year. 349 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: But the fact that James is such a different quarterback, Uh, 350 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it's gonna go that way. It's 351 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: probably gonna be one of the other. And I will 352 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: say this when when I do the Power rankings, Um, 353 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: I kept them at number three of the Saints, even 354 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: though you could certainly make the case that with Jamis 355 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: Winston there you drop him, because I do think I 356 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: just have a bit of a feeling that he's gonna 357 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: play well, that he's in a good spot. He's got 358 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: good playmakers around him, he's got a head coach that's 359 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: gonna keep him from making some of the mistakes that 360 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: have killed him in his career. And I feel so 361 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: good about the Jamis Winston in New Orleans. I don't 362 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: care how hot Atlanta is or Winston's thirty thirty season. 363 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm locking up the Saint keep their winning street going 364 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: with Jamis Jamis. I like this lot. I think this 365 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: is this is Gutsey because you're right, the variance on Winston. 366 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: It's not the Bucks offense. I think he's gonna turn 367 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: a safer situation. So I'm with you, Dan nice Lock. 368 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: That's a gutsy lock all right there. I want him 369 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: to be like brock Oswiler when he took over in 370 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: the last season of Peyton Manning, except he never gives 371 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: it back like you said. And it's Jamis Winston and 372 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl he needs Michael Thomas to step 373 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: up though. That is one thing we have not seen. 374 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and Alvin Camara both grade at the same time. Uh, 375 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas has eighteen targets this year for nine five yards. Man, 376 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: he could use Michael Thomas to be Michael Thomas. But 377 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: you get a feeling he's not a hundred percent off 378 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: that high ankles brain, or maybe not a percent checked in. 379 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: Maybe it just seems there's something still. Even though now 380 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: he's back in the game. I still don't know if 381 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: I buy in on what's going with Michael Thomas. He 382 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like the same guy. All right, let's move on. 383 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: The number two overall pick goes to Mark Sessler. All Right, 384 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: this is my number two overall pick. I hope it's 385 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: not right. No, I just said I said it was. 386 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: I said it was the number two. Well, I'm reminding myself, 387 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: you know that's how this works. I'm gonna go Brown's Eagles. Um, 388 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: I just kind of want to see if Mothers total 389 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: to well for the old Sensor. This is like Aden 390 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: catch type Brown's pick or maybe who is it Courtney 391 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: what's his name? Courtney Courtney Brown, Courtney Thorne Smith, Yes, 392 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: Thorn Smith who came in and registered twelve tackles. I 393 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: believe in the two thousand and three season. All right, 394 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: stop trying to get me off course. Here the Browns 395 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: and Eagles look at mother Nature is reeked total havoc 396 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: on Cleveland, and it sounds like it won't be great 397 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: again on Sunday. It's played in Cleveland's advantage. Not against 398 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: the Raiders because they didn't have Nick Chubb, but last 399 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: week against Houston, Houston lined up eight men in the 400 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: box like thirty six times and it didn't really matter. 401 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: The Browns ran for like a hundred and fifty yards 402 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Wyatt teller Um a human being 403 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: who was made in the lab. Apparently he's become like 404 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: a supercharged guard for them. Highest rated PFF guy in 405 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: the world. Right now, Um, and it looks like it. 406 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: He is a dominator. So with Chubb and Hunt and 407 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: the whole crew back in Austin Hooper blocking as well, 408 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: I like this idea of them going and beating an 409 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: Eagles team that frankly has been not just bad, but 410 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: as boring an offense as I've watched in years. And 411 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: they just seemed tangled, um, lost in themselves. I don't 412 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: see a lot of trust around Carson Wentz in the scheme. 413 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, you guys, we know that on this week 414 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: on radio he's venting on people. That's when you think, 415 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: you know, things are starting to get a little thorny. 416 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm gonna pick the Browns in this game. 417 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: I keep picking them, But I also have this feeling, 418 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: and I bet you did too, Mark, just because you're 419 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: a Browns fan, that like they're gonna get picked off 420 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: in one of these games. Are to win. It just 421 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: it feels like it's coming. I don't know if it's 422 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: gonna be this week. I'm picking them to win because 423 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: of what you said, Like they dialed Wentz back. I 424 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: think a week ago. I think they made a concerted 425 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: effort to cut down on some of the plays that 426 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: maybe he turns the ball over, have him outside of 427 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: the pocket left, having have him running left. So it's like, Okay, 428 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: you have no turnovers, but you were still terrible. I mean, 429 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: and can we get a normal weather Brown's game. You 430 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: mentioned it might be bad again, but I just I 431 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: want to see what this team looks like when there's 432 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: not thirty five wins. Yeah. Our friend Nick Shook, who 433 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: helps us out on the podcast on Sunday nights and 434 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: does awesome work in NFL dot com. He's a Cleveland 435 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: native and it broke him last week. He he tweeted 436 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: out that he wants to put a roof on top 437 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: of that stadium in Cleveland. The whole thing with the 438 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: Browns is supposed to be tough in the elements, but 439 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: it's frustrating because you don't get a good gauge on 440 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: these teams that are playing, including Baker Mayfield, who has 441 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: kind of been just out of the picture because there's 442 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: only so much you do passing when it's thirty five wins. 443 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: I think with the Eagles, I've officially lost hope that 444 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is gonna get fixed this year because I think, 445 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: and you heard in that radio interview and really great 446 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: job by whatever station that was. Can we just say 447 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: again the up Carson teeing up Doug Peterson in the 448 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: worst way imaginable. UM, But you sense the frustration is 449 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: because they don't know how to fix him. They don't 450 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: know how to fix their quarterback, and they need their quarterback. 451 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: So I'm very apprehensive. That said, I'm I'm totally with you. 452 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it, Mark, but I got 453 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: a feeling the Eagles are gonna pick off the Browns 454 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: in this game. If I had to pick this game, 455 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: if I was doing the old Greggy pick every game 456 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: scenario that he does on his other program, I would 457 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: be picking the Eagles to take a w NFL game 458 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: debut Friday nights eight p m mea stard. I mean, 459 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: if you're gonna plug it, you know, give it the 460 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean the endless plugs, the endless plugs. I write 461 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: an article that appears on Tuesday's about twelve people read it. 462 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: Find that on the internet if you can, please. But 463 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm a little concerned about this Eagles 464 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: UM and the matchup is concerning because they need it 465 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: desperately to break out there's like twenty five more hours 466 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: of Eagles football this season. I mean, based on where 467 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: we are, that's twenty five too many. But I would 468 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: be concerned about them. Uh, you know, getting a couple 469 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: more wins here. Cleveland better have their heads on straight. 470 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: Pick the game Art Cleveland one Eagles eighteen field goal 471 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: over time in driving wins. Cody Parker, Cody Parkey. Alright, 472 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: very good, Alright, time now for Road to Victory presented 473 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: by the United States Marine Corps. Oh, the old zoos 474 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: of the draft is really fall to them in a 475 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: beautiful way. It's like back in August when Alvin Kamara 476 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: can't drop to me at nine in my league of 477 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: record in Fantasy, and I was like, this is gonna 478 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: be a good season. Well guess what, I'm picking third 479 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: overall and I get Tennessee at Baltimore. Let's go, let's fly. 480 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch this game. The Ravens. We 481 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: gotta figure out what's going on with this team. Are 482 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: they a Super Bowl contender still or are they a 483 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: team that just doesn't know how to win, can't get 484 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: a big win And this is a big stage for them. Uh, 485 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: coming off a very disappointing prime time game. Yes, we 486 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: understand it's on the road. We understand the elements for 487 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: terrible or as a monsoon uh, for the final possession 488 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: of the game, when they had a chance uh to 489 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: steal it. It just wasn't in the cards. But it's 490 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: just it just hasn't been right. And I know, you 491 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: look at a lot of the numbers, and you look 492 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: at the analytics, and everybody's telling you that the Ravens 493 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: are still a great team. In six and three is 494 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: hardly a bad record. But something just seems a little 495 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: bit off in the pie mark when you put all 496 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: the ingredients in there, all the ingredients are great, high quality, 497 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: and then you put it in the oven, you take 498 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: it out after an hour or whatever, I don't know 499 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: how long pys cook um, and it's like this doesn't 500 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: taste right. Something is just a little bit off. So 501 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: what will they do against the Titans? They are getting 502 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: the Titans, however, Greg, I feel at a good time 503 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: Tennessee is a team that has some confidence issues of 504 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: its own. After a disappointing prime time game last Thursday 505 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: against the Colts, a special teams apocalypse for them, and 506 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if their defense and especially their secondary, 507 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: even with Desmond King, is up for this challenge. Yeah, 508 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: you look at their defense and I think it's still 509 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: the worst group in this game. Like, if you talk 510 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: about the Ravens offense defense, the Titans offense is obviously 511 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: still good. The Titans defense is the problem. But this 512 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: is a week you're gonna need to see Lamar throw 513 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: the ball because I think that's how you beat Tennessee. 514 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: And one of the problems you mentioned with the Ravens 515 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: dan is like the identity that they had a year 516 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: ago was running up the middle on offense and setting 517 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 1: the edge on defense. Just a team you cannot get 518 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: to the outside, and those are both collapsing. And now 519 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: you play Tennessee and Derrick Henry. It's like who is 520 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: tougher to stop when he gets to the edge than 521 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. Like that is a problem, and I'd be 522 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: a little worried. It's the playoff rematch. It's like a 523 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: lot of bad memories. They need to exercise their demons 524 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: or else this season starts feeling pretty dark. Yeah, I'm 525 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: with you. I mean it's I think both teams have 526 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: been impacted by offensive line in trees and we know 527 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley has been stale has been out for the Ravens. 528 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: Matt Skur the center had to tweet out an apology 529 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: for you know, a string of a surd drafts of 530 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: snaps last week. So d J. Fluker was benched in 531 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: that Patriots game. And I think for the Titans, like 532 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: tailor of one being out with the A C L. 533 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: And you know Roger Staffel was hurt last week. That 534 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: is impacted Ryan Tannehill to some degree. He's had to 535 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: kind of speed up and get rid of throws a 536 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: little quicker. I mean, he is as tough as they 537 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: come in the pocket, but they've been a little disjointed themselves. 538 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: So I think it's two teams, uh, two organizations with 539 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: their backs against the wall. It's like as a mythical 540 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: giant verse a depressing bird. I don't know who to pick. 541 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm in a state of confusion. I have two quick 542 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: takes off. The last time we saw the Titans. Number one, 543 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: A J. Brown catches that pass down the sideline when 544 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: they're up seven nothing, they're up two touchdowns and who 545 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: knows how that game plays out. So just a failure 546 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: to execute what seemed like a fairly basic long touchdown 547 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: pass really hurt them. And then my other point is 548 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: a broader one about Mike Rabel, the head coach. And 549 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: I understand patriot loyalty runs deep here, but the next 550 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: big field goal or extra point that Stephen Gaskowski mix mrs. 551 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: Is gonna be on the head coach as much as 552 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: it is on the kicker, because loyalty has to have 553 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: its limits. I cannot believe, uh that we're still in 554 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: this situation with this setup or Kaskowski. It almost doesn't 555 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: matter what he does, He's gonna be their kicker. So 556 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: if it happens again, put it on Rabel. Kaskowski is 557 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: doing the best he can, but he's a limited kicker 558 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: at this point in the game. I mean, what a 559 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: what a pick for you getting this as the third 560 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: overall pick, the most mismatch kicker battle you'll have all 561 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: season with the goat, you know, justin Tucker, and you've 562 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: got Tony Romo on the call in this game. You 563 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 1: don't normally see value like that this late. We got 564 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: jim Nance because I know I saw some reports Jimmy 565 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: Nance is looking for a raise. Is he gonna be there? 566 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: Is he gonna be in the booth game time decision. Alright. 567 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: That was Road to Victory presented by the United States 568 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: Marine Corps. All right, so I love my my pick 569 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: there three overall and now with the snake, Are you 570 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: kidding me? I get Green Bay at Indianapolis. What a 571 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: traft for the old susor and the late games in 572 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: the afternoon. Uh nice matchup here. You have the Packers 573 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: who listen, they're having a nice season. I like the Packers. 574 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: Do I totally fully trust the Packers. Uh? Now, I'm 575 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: not there. I don't think they're a team that has 576 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: shown us that they are at the level of the 577 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: truly elite teams. But when you look at their record 578 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: and how the season overall has gone, you could say 579 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: they have been So I'm kind of still learning to 580 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: trust Green Bay. I like this matchup as a measuring 581 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: stick game for them because they go to Indianapolis. So 582 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: they go on the road and they face the Colts 583 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: team that should you would think be able to give them, 584 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: uh some trouble because they play very good defense, the Colts, 585 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: so they could have the opportunity to potentially disrupt Aaron Rodgers, 586 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: who has been at an all pro level this year, 587 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: and then on offense against Green Bay defense that I 588 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: don't think anybody trust. Uh, Philip Rivers and Nahem Hines, 589 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: who I really liked what we saw on Thursday night. 590 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: Maybe they're figuring out that backfield, which we know is 591 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: a big issue for the Colts. They haven't been able 592 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: to get um that backfield going since Marlon Max Achilles 593 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: tear and Jonathan Taylor has struggled. But maybe Nahem Hines, 594 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: who had a hundred and fifteen yards uh and two 595 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: touchdowns against the Titans, is a solution back there. So 596 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: I really like this as a close game. Uh, and 597 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: I think it could go either way. I'm with you 598 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: on Hines. You know, I know Greg was calling to 599 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: see more of him a week ago and you got it. 600 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: And Bob Kravitz, longtime beat writer for the Cults, um 601 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: compared him to Eric Metcalf of old and I see 602 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of that. What I liked about the 603 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: Cults last week in the in the win over the 604 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: Titans was I mean, you know, we we also mentioned 605 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: the special team stuff. It helps to have the Titans 606 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: with a third string punter, just to throw that in there. 607 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: But Um, at the same time Rivers, they went a 608 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: little up tempo. I thought that Rivers probably played his 609 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: best game of the season, and they need that. They 610 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: need the offense to complement what I think is the 611 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: most enjoyable defense to watch in the league. I think 612 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: Darius leonard Um is the anchor, obviously, the heart of 613 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: that defense. Anyone in excuse me, another shot at the Rams. 614 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: It's not a shot at the Ram. The Rams are 615 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: in the mix, but the Colts that's their identity, and 616 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: they at least have an identity on that side of 617 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: the ball. So it's a great challenge for Aaron Rodgers, 618 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: who I mean, look at they squeaked one out against 619 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: the Jaguars last week. I like to see a little 620 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: more firepower from Green Bay. They don't seem to be 621 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: the team they were a couple of months ago. Yeah, 622 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur keeps talking about that that they don't have 623 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: energy like on the side. He really, he really doesn't 624 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: stop talking about it like that we need more juice. 625 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: He doesn't know why they're not excited, Like I don't 626 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: know if that's an excuse after the factor, if this 627 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: team really is flat. I think this game sets up 628 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: well because they're on turf, and to me, even though 629 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: they're you know, from Green Bay, they are would be 630 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: a great indoor team. Davante Adams cutting on turf. Aaron Jones, 631 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: who has been a little quiet relatively coming off the injury, 632 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: his speed showing up on turf and their speed could 633 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: definitely give the Colts defense problems. It's a great matchup. 634 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: I have a very hard time picking this game. I'm 635 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: curious where you guys would go. I went with the Cults, 636 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: but I don't feel good about it. I think the Packers. 637 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: I would pick the Packers, but I don't do it 638 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: with a lot of confidence. It was good to see 639 00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: Marquez Delda scantling breakout there with going forward for forty 640 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: seven and he had the long touchdown. They just need 641 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: more consistency, uh from him and Alan Lazard if if 642 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: he can get back. He's missed time with a core injury. 643 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: I know, uh, you kind of forget about it because 644 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: it was right as he was taking off that he 645 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: went down with the injury. But they seem like they 646 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: had really found something there. So there's a potential here 647 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: that with Aaron Jones, and I know he's been kind 648 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: of been a bit of a committee. Surprisingly Aaron Jones 649 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, but as he gets further 650 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: away from his injury, Lazard back NVS flashing Davante Adams 651 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: being Davante Adams that the Packers will go up a 652 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: level on offense and perhaps as soon as Sunday. So 653 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: that's why I picked the Packers. But I I do 654 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: think it's a close game. I'm looking forward to this. 655 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: There's a good one. We should mention that Gayerra Alexander, 656 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: who is I would say the best cornerback in the 657 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: league this year, has been out for a few weeks. 658 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: They hope to get him back this week. Maybe Kevin 659 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: King too, who is another starting corner So that's a 660 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: big deal for them, uh, in addition to Lazard. But 661 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: I want to see a little more before we move on. 662 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: Just out of this Packers pass, right, Remember Zadarius I 663 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: had him in the top five defensive players of the 664 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: year last year. He hasn't been the same. Kenny Clark 665 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: hasn't quite been the same. He got that big extension 666 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: in Preston Smith hasn't been the same. So if Philip 667 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: Rivers is protected, I kind of like the Colts in 668 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: most games where you can give Philip rivers sometime, and 669 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: so far the Packers defense hasn't had nearly as much 670 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: juice upfront as they did a year ago. I mean, 671 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: I know for sure that Mike Petton is watching this. 672 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: He watches every episode and listens to every Podcat Buddy 673 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: that we do. I mean, that's the league land. You know, 674 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: you want some energy on that sideline. Flip the switch 675 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: on the pass rush there. If you write a big 676 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: feature about Petton once, uh, then you like go live 677 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: in his apartment that was like next to the facility 678 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: that there's been something. There's been a long string of 679 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: Brown's coaches that have lived in those apartments. But he 680 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: also dug in on his thoughts on the Warren commissioned 681 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: other things. If you that's another article that you could 682 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: find um on NFL dot com if you so wish 683 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: to search for it. There you go, Marxie, plugging isn't 684 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: a bad thing. You're proud of the world. You want 685 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: to get it out there. And while we're here. The 686 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: Power Ranking Show with Matt money Smith every Tuesday, three 687 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: pm Eastern noon Pacific on NFL Network. The Packers seven 688 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,479 Speaker 1: and two entering this game the Saints seven and two. 689 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: The Saints now start James Winston on purpose. Uh So 690 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: the Packers, with a somewhat soft schedule, have a chance 691 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: here to go get that number one seed if they 692 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: can close out this regular season strong. All right, up 693 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: next in the draft, I'm just I'm just on fire 694 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: after that three or four uh slotting by the old 695 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: Zeuser Mark, you're up? Well, I mean there aren't. You know, 696 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Dallas at Minnesota. I need you know. 697 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: There's not that many four o'clock games. You gotta schedule 698 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: your day out. But there's something to like about this 699 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 1: that I talk about teams that change draft who they are. 700 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: What this guy hates his draft class exactly. You're like 701 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: the guy in the press conference afterwards, it's like, it's 702 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: just how the board felt to us, like we would 703 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: have drafted him out. That's exactly what happened at all. 704 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: It's exactly what happened. I mean, you have, like, you know, 705 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: there's stuff behind the curtain here that we have to 706 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: deal with that the viewer doesn't need to worry about 707 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: Dallas Minnesota. Alright, Minnesota at least is this I think 708 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: has grown into one of the tougher teams and their defense. 709 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: Over the last couple of weeks, they have given up 710 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: twenty two points twenty points thirteen. They were tenth and 711 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: dv o A. This defense has turned it around. There's 712 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: a lot of new fliate faces. Mike Zimmer had a 713 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: lot to deal with a couple of months ago. This 714 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: is turning into one of Mike Zimmer's better coaching performances 715 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: on the flip side. Dallas is defense. You know, there's 716 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: a lot of bubbling up this week because you're dealing 717 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: with Dalvin Cook. Is it going to reb a repeat 718 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: of when the Browns came in and ran the ball 719 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: for three hundred and seven yards? And it was DeMarcus 720 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: Lawrence who said, absolutely not. We're not that defense anymore. 721 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: We're not gonna have a repeat of that game. And 722 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't think they are that defense. Greg. I know 723 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: that you've talked a little bit about the uptick for 724 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 1: the Cowboys on that side of the ball. I don't 725 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: and I don't believe in this team, but I think 726 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: we might get to a point where maybe Mike McCarthy 727 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: isn't wishing that he had just simply vanished to the 728 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 1: Caribbean eating shrimp and drinking like cold beers versus actually 729 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: doing this job. They've got a chance to close it 730 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: out strong here. That sounds fun. I'd much rather be 731 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: doing that. But let's let's do that. Yeah, I'm I'm 732 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: a little surprised that Cowboys defense didn't get more love 733 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: for how they played against Pittsburgh. Maybe it's because they 734 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: ended up losing that game and then they go on 735 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: to buy. But DeMarcus Lawrence is one of these streakiest 736 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: and best defensive players of the last five years. When 737 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: he gets on a role, he dominates, and he has 738 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: been on that role in the last three weeks. Then 739 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: Neville Neville Gallimore, who didn't hear from earlier in the season, 740 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: He's had two great weeks in a row. You get 741 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: late In Vanderesh back, he's playing much better. He's kind 742 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: of looking like the late in vandereshival and Randy Gregory 743 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: made a big difference. So I think, I don't know's 744 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: I know, it's only a two week sample size, but 745 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: they played good defense two straight weeks, so I at 746 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: least give them some hope that maybe they're turning it around. There. 747 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: There are players on this Cowboys front that can that 748 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: can cause some damage and maybe keep this game close. 749 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be just good enough till lose 750 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: close games instead of lose blowouts basically, or when the 751 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: NFC East at four and twelve, I mean one of 752 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: those two things. It's certainly possible, you know. I I 753 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: didn't give up the ghost with the Vikings the team 754 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: of Zeus t L. And here's the thing, I don't 755 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: know if I'm ready to give up the ghost with 756 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys either. And it's it's maybe rooted, uh 757 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: in some weird sense of faith in Andy Dalton and 758 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: this idea that he could still he could still pilot 759 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: this offense and get them back to respectability on that 760 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: side of the ball with all the playmakers he has. 761 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: And and I'm I have much less confidence with this 762 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: take than I did when he first entered the lineup, 763 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 1: But I still think unless he completely lost his skill set, 764 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: or unless Mike McCarthy and Kellen Moore are just bad 765 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: at their jobs and have no idea how to get 766 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: him comfortable. They've had weeks now because of this COVID 767 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: nineteen and the concussion. To look at the tape, who 768 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: knows make it look at the old Dalton tape in Cincinnati. 769 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: What did he do well? What is he comfortable with? Well, 770 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: here are some of the best playmakers in football. Let's 771 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: find a way to start scoring twenty six or twenty 772 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: seven points a game. I'm not ruling it out. And 773 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 1: when if they can do that, and if they start 774 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: that this week, and I don't think you it's impossible 775 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 1: ask to do it against Minnesota's defense. All of a sudden, 776 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: the NFC East once again mutates and just something still disturbing, 777 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: but even more interesting. So I had I was almost boys. 778 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: I almost was completely had like seventeen red stripes deep 779 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: and locked up the Cowboys just on a lark. But 780 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: I didn't do it. But that's how I feel. I 781 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: think they're gonna put up points and be better on 782 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: offense with Dalton back, Justin Jefferson and Ceedee Lamb. Ceedee 783 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: Lamb was the guy that was the superstar rookie wide 784 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: receiver before Dak went down. I like that both these 785 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: guys are playing in this game. There there's just this 786 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: is a this mark. Don't be so hard on your 787 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: draft class. This is a pretty decent late round pick. Well, 788 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 1: I had Ceedee Lamb on my fantasy team. Literally nobody 789 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: cares about this, but I mean, the guy has gone 790 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: to sleep. I'd like to see him, you know, reawake 791 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: and and be productive. I think he's looks as good 792 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 1: as anyone else in the rookie draft class. But Jefferson 793 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 1: are insane. Come on, Cowboys, get off the mat. It's 794 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: still there for the taking. But I'm rooting for my Vikings. 795 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: All right, boys, let's keep rolling here. Up next in 796 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: the draft, Greg Rosenthal, what you got, well, what I 797 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: don't got is your Jets. I'm gonna stick you with 798 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. That's how the draft is gonna go. I'm 799 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: taking the Dolphins and the Broncos. This is the game 800 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: that Mark Sessler would have loved. But you know what, 801 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: he already took the vice. He's already got a late 802 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: afternoon game. And uh I I do love watching this 803 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: Dolphins team too. Mark is not alone really ever since 804 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 1: they blew the doors off the forty niners. I think 805 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: since that moment forward, you could say, wow, this this 806 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: is one of the teams that just gave you something new, 807 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: gave you something surprising that you didn't see coming this season. 808 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: And that's nice. It's been a little bit of a 809 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: chalk season. A lot of expected teams are good. There's 810 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: not a ton of massive surprises. And they're a team 811 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: about margins. And you know, Mark keeps comparing them to 812 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: the early Patriots, and I see that because it's turnover margin. 813 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: They're great at that and I think that's where Ta 814 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: has helped them to It gets rid of the ball 815 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: more quickly than Ryan Fitzpatrick, so it it helps their 816 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: bad offensive line. He's not as explosive, but he also 817 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, it hasn't turned the ball over. He's caught, 818 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 1: he's got some breaks, but he's not a guy that's 819 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: gonna fumble. He's not a guy that's gonna take a 820 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: lot of sex. That's a positive. They don't get penalized. 821 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: That's small margins. Uh, they're great on special teams week 822 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: after week after week. That's the margins. And that was 823 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: a big Belichick thing. And I think Flores and the 824 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: way he coaches his team, um is really smart about 825 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 1: more teams lose games than than really do win games. 826 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: And these two teams, Broncos Dolphins, are a perfect example. 827 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: The Broncos have a better roster. I mean they have 828 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: a way better roster, and look at where these two 829 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: teams are at. The Broncos go out and lose games, 830 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: whereas the Dolphins the marks set the team of sestl uh. 831 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: You know, they just play solid every week and they 832 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 1: let the other teams blow themselves up. Yeah. I mean, 833 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: I think one thing that we've said and like mentioned 834 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: that they're only a handful of coaches that do everything 835 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: you just talked about, and Brian Floores appears to be 836 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: um heading towards that group. He's in the group. I 837 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: don't feel that way about Denver's coaching staff and there 838 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's like they're three and six 839 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: for the fourth straight season. Um. I think I think 840 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: reality presents itself when you have a lot of friends 841 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: from a certain fan base and you can feel a 842 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: mass revolt. And I feel that with the Broncos right now. 843 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: And I think it's the the the interest around Truelock 844 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: being totally extinguished. I mean he's had a string of 845 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: bad games, the Raiders game, his mistakes, UH dangerous passes 846 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: and what that turned into, the turnovers. It just nullifies 847 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 1: as your chance to win. I meany they have given 848 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: up thirty six points per games since weeks seven. On defense, 849 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: they really banged up. They're really banged up on defense. 850 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,439 Speaker 1: It's like Bryce Callahan, no A j. Bouyer, no Von Miller, 851 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: Shelby Harris, Darrell Casey, Mike Purcell, all these guys have 852 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: been out. But they're also last in the league on 853 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: d on offense and d V o A. So neither 854 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: side of the ball, right, No, exactly, they just eclipse 855 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 1: the Jets after that past week. Um, and so, I mean, 856 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: you're heading in the wrong direction, and I think there's 857 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: a big offseason coming ahead for John Elway. There's there 858 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: are parts in place on this offense, but you've got 859 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,240 Speaker 1: to get a quarterback that can at least be safe 860 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 1: with the ball versus what we saw recently from Drew Luck. 861 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 1: They entered this season as an interesting fringe e in 862 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: the mix, potentially for a playoff spot team. Uh, and 863 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: then they got a bunch of their key players hurt, 864 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: and then their quarterback, who they believed was an ascended 865 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: young player, has poop the bed. So it's like you 866 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: have those things together, a roster that's been compromised by 867 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: injuries and a quarterback that is not playing well and 868 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: that's how they are, That's how they got in here. 869 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: I want to clarify something again. I can't believe I 870 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: have to do this again because it happened with the 871 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: Panthers too on this podcast. Just because I am not 872 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: as high as you guys on certain teams does not 873 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: mean I don't enjoy watching the Dolphins or I'm not 874 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: excited watching your Jets fan. You're you're worried that they're 875 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: gonna replace the Patriots as this new they're the new rivals. 876 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: That's gonna you know, take the witness speak. Let's yeah, 877 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: you have all these theories baked in your mind about 878 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: why I don't love certain teams. With the Panthers, it's 879 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: because the Jets could have had Matt Rule, and now 880 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: I guess with the Dolphins, because the Dolphins are the 881 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 1: next Patriots. All that stuff is like in your heads 882 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: for me. With with the Panthers, I just didn't think 883 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 1: they were ready and I think I've been proven right 884 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: on that point. And with the Dolphins, I just the 885 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: only question I ask. And they're fun to watch and 886 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: I loved the onions that it took to put two 887 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: in the lineup and the fact that he's he looks 888 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: like an exciting young player. That's cool and Dolphins. What 889 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: people on the outside of the a f C East 890 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: don't understand is like where I am as a Jets fan, 891 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 1: I don't have malice towards Miami. It's been so long 892 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,439 Speaker 1: since the Jets and Dobbins have been relevant, truly relevant teams. 893 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: And I know that Jets had a little window there 894 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: in the beginning of the Rex Ryan era. That all 895 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: that bad blood has worn off, and hopefully in a 896 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: couple of years it will be back and I'll be 897 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: back to hating the Dolphins. But I'm not and I 898 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: and Henry Hodson is one of my good friends here 899 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,879 Speaker 1: in l A. He's a Dolphins fan. I'm happy for him. 900 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: I just wonder if if it's sustainable. Well, if you 901 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: want to paint me that way, I gotta tell you 902 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,920 Speaker 1: the other side of the story. The Dolphins isn't sustainable 903 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 1: to be getting a huge special teams play every week, 904 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: getting huge defensive plays every week. Maybe maybe this is it. 905 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: Maybe this is one of those years you guys have 906 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 1: mentioned the two thousand one Patriots. Maybe they are on 907 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: a magic carpet ride. Uh, but I need I need 908 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: a little bit more and some of the defense and 909 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: special teams like the block punt last week is an example. 910 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: It's just not gonna happen every week, or usually it doesn't. 911 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: It all right, but for there's a couple of things 912 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: happening here. Number one, Like, I can guarantee you that 913 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,720 Speaker 1: Greg and I don't spend five minute today, um thinking 914 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: where you are with the Panthers or Dolphins, Like it's Dan, 915 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: this is the second Thursday show in a row, and 916 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: you've stopped down to make a state of the union 917 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: about where you are with Matt Rule and where you 918 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: are now with the Dolphins. Like I don't think that 919 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: you dislike the Dolphins who don't want to watch them. 920 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 1: They're probably close to how I feel about the Bengals 921 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: as the Browns fan. But I mean, I guess when 922 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: they win a playoff game, then will you like be 923 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: like you're not like you never went to like when 924 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: the Dolinsky I will, I will love the Dolphins as 925 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: much as you do. I was just saying Greg has 926 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: set up his initial point by saying, I'm with you, Mark, 927 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: I like watching these Dolphins. I like watching them too, 928 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: I just I just don't think they're gonna be. That 929 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: depends what the goal is. Like I think if you're 930 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: a Dolphins fan, just giving your fans some fun football 931 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: and being in the playoff race. They've they've won, and 932 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that they're gonna go in the 933 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: Super But now I do think they can be a 934 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: playoff team and they can have this formula um to 935 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: get them into the playoffs and then who knows if 936 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: you can win a game or not, because like they 937 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: do have talent like Xavian Howard is playing like a 938 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,879 Speaker 1: pro bowler, and those two cornerbacks Byron Jones and Xavian Howard, 939 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,839 Speaker 1: which was a GM move you know, um, Chris Greer 940 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: and and Brian Flores. That was their vision kind of 941 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: to build back to front. Those guys are really playing 942 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: great and it seems like it's a disaster for old 943 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,279 Speaker 1: Drew lock this week. All right, it's snakes. Oh by 944 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: the way, Mark, did you have something to add on 945 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: the Dolphins in this game? I do, yes, which, um, 946 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,720 Speaker 1: if you watch the back end of our NFL Network 947 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: version of the show will be revealed to you there 948 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: as well. But to double dip, I'm gonna be locking 949 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: up these Dolphins and I don't like the negative energy 950 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: around the concept of me finding fun and a team. 951 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: It's not a mean versus you or me versus anyone 952 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: else thing. Let's put that to bed. The Dolphins are 953 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: well coached, so those little things that happen are gonna 954 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: happen more to a well coached team. It's not random 955 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: or just an aberration. I mean, I just think this 956 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,760 Speaker 1: is the difference between Team A and some other teams, 957 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: and I hope it continues for Miami Jets Dolphins games. 958 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,240 Speaker 1: You used to be the best a f C crazy 959 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: rivalries around. They did like forty five to forty two. 960 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: Let's get back to that versus the Jet scoring forty 961 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,800 Speaker 1: two points over six weeks combined. Let's get back to 962 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: those days. Enough next game and the words of the 963 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: recently retired Joe ban Ingo over on w f A 964 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: n from your lips to gods as my friend Revord 965 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: Lawrence and to uh slugging it out over the next decade, 966 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 1: that sounds that sounds fun to me. To me, I like, 967 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,439 Speaker 1: I like, I like the Dolphins as well. In this game, 968 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: all right, Greg, it snakes to all right, everyone's got 969 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: different strategies how they do the drafts. When I got 970 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: Falcon Saints early game, you're gonna do no, I'm now 971 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 1: you don't totally. I want a game. I'm not gonna 972 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: get too crazy focusing on this week. That game is 973 00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: Jake Luton facing the Pittsburgh Steelers. Mark is upset here. 974 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: You did exactly when I was. You know that. You 975 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: know that's nice, good strategy. I I you know this game, 976 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: I want to blow out. I want the Steelers to 977 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: just take care of business and and I'll be enjoying 978 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: the greatest rivalry in football on the other screen. I'm 979 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: not a hundred percent sure there's gonna be a blowout 980 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: because you know, Number one, the last time the Steelers 981 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: went on the road against a bad team that they 982 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: were very lucky to beat the Cowboys. And number two, 983 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars defense. It's so Again, it's only 984 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: a two week sample size, but it's worth pointing out 985 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 1: teams do change as this season goes along. They've been 986 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: totally respectable the last two weeks. They've been very competitive. 987 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: Miles Jack. They have a rookie, dave On Hamilton's in 988 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: the middle of their line. Sidney Jones, who used to 989 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,399 Speaker 1: be on the Eagles is now a cornerback for them 990 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,399 Speaker 1: and playing really well. I'm just they've played two games 991 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 1: in a row. It's worth noting the Steeler's offense hasn't 992 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: been like overly explosive, so this could backfire on me. 993 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 1: And it's a close great game. I don't even want 994 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: it to be a great game. But to me, Jake Lewton, Uh, 995 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 1: he has not been as good as kind of the 996 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: raw numbers look like. And it looks like a guy 997 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: who's just gonna get overmatched. And Gardner Minshew is still out, 998 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,879 Speaker 1: he's still hurt, and he's not coming back. I need 999 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: I need, as we've talked about. Uh, I need a 1000 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 1: Jaguars win somewhere in here, get them to two and 1001 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: in the best case scenario, even three wins. I just 1002 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: don't see it happening here. I think it's gonna be grizzly. 1003 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,399 Speaker 1: I think Ben Roethlisberger looked great, uh last week, four 1004 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 1: touchdowns through yards, and he just has so many weapons 1005 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: at his disposal. With Deante Johnson healthy, Uh, what he 1006 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,480 Speaker 1: brings to that offense. Juju Smith Schuster has gotten on 1007 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,600 Speaker 1: track after a funky start to the year, And of 1008 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: course I lost twenty nineteen, and Chase Claypool is just 1009 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: a difference maker. He's just one of those guys that 1010 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,439 Speaker 1: he's raw, and you'll notice he'll maybe drop a pass 1011 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: here or run the wrong route there. He's a rookie 1012 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: and he looks like a rookie of times, but he's 1013 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: just got such a nose for the end zone and 1014 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: he's a born playmaker. So you add him to the mix, 1015 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 1: and it's just like Ben Roethlisberger doesn't have to be 1016 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 1: two thousand, uh ten Ben Roethlisberger anymore. He just needs 1017 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: to be proficient, and he's more than that. So I 1018 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: love the Steeler's offense and obviously love him against Jacksonville. 1019 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 1: I would like to see the run game in Pittsburgh 1020 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 1: be a little bit more consistent, a little bit more diverse. 1021 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 1: I think that there's just been some disappointing out I mean, 1022 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: you make up for it because of everything else they 1023 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 1: can do, but they're gonna get into a game or 1024 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: two where they're gonna need someone like James Conner to 1025 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,439 Speaker 1: be better than he's been. So but I'm with you, Greg, 1026 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 1: This was my strategy. I was gonna pick that for 1027 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: the early blowout window. But what I've learned is when 1028 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 1: you go in that direction, you're gonna get like a 1029 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: weird overtime game. So where you go, where I'm gonna 1030 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: go is Detroit, Carolina. Um, you know I can control 1031 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 1: the matt rule messaging on Sunday night that way. That'll 1032 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: be really important on this show apparently. But it's a 1033 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: good way to look at it. Here's ther thing I'm 1034 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you, Like when I when you're 1035 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: circling through these game pass um operations, you know, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, 1036 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: in preparation for our preview and just to learn about 1037 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: the league, the Lions tape is always the one that 1038 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: I drift off into a sleep and I start to 1039 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: wonder what I need to do to kind of like 1040 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 1: perk my body back up. Yeah, exactly, So you want 1041 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: to get rid of the Lions on Sunday. But I 1042 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: do think that the Lions that it sounds like Kenny 1043 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: Golladay is practicing, Um, getting him back would be huge. 1044 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's in an iffy situation. But DeAndre Swift finally 1045 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,399 Speaker 1: became the guy that I kind of thought he would 1046 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 1: be right away when they you know, superseded him with 1047 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson all this other business. Swift looked really good 1048 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 1: last week, so it's it's an interesting matchup. I think 1049 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: the you know, no Christian McCaffrey for the Panthers, but 1050 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: this offense has been watchable and explosive week after week. 1051 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,840 Speaker 1: It's just that you know, they can't win shootouts with 1052 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: that defense unless their offense is almost perfect. And you're 1053 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: not playing you know, the Chiefs this time around, You're 1054 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,320 Speaker 1: not playing the Bucks. You're gonna get the Lions. I 1055 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: think this is the game where Matt rule to your point, 1056 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: Dan like staying close. It's nice, but they have the 1057 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: guns to win some of these games. You gotta close 1058 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 1: one of these out. This should be the week. Well 1059 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 1: not if Teddy's hurt, so are going into the game 1060 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: not not a d percent sure if Stafford or Teddy 1061 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: Bridgewater will start. So if one, if one is sitting 1062 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,359 Speaker 1: and the other is playing, I'm I like that team 1063 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 1: to win because if they're both playing. I kind of 1064 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: like the Panthers in a coaching game because I think 1065 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: these two teams are close enough that coaching should make 1066 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,879 Speaker 1: a difference and the Panthers get to win. But you're 1067 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: right there, the Lions are way more watchable when Golidays 1068 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 1: on the field. They're way more explosive. And now that 1069 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,760 Speaker 1: they've handed it over to DeAndre Swift Man, his cuts 1070 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: are just great. I know, you know, you say like 1071 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: running backs don't matter. That's a fun um you know 1072 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: twitter joke. Well, they matter for your watchability because when 1073 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 1: it's when it's DeAndre Swift back there, Uh, they are 1074 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 1: a much more fun team to watch. They've had some 1075 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,759 Speaker 1: good things. They've had some young players come up a 1076 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: little bit. Uh. Whereas if you have Golliday and Swift 1077 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: unlocked at the same time, we haven't really seen that 1078 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,720 Speaker 1: this year for the Lions. I can't believe the Lions 1079 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 1: are four and five. It doesn't seem like make sense 1080 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: to me. They feel like they should be three and six. 1081 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 1: Uh uh. And I know that's only one game, but 1082 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: it does feel like a big difference. They feel like 1083 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,360 Speaker 1: a classic three and sixth team that's going nowhere. But 1084 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 1: they're right in the mix if they can just string 1085 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 1: together some wins. And yet I don't trust them, and 1086 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: I think, um, I think the Panthers are too good 1087 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: to just continue to lose every single week. I think 1088 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 1: they're I think they're overdue, frankly, and I think the 1089 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 1: Lines are a team that is known to fall on 1090 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,400 Speaker 1: their faces. So if we have, if we haven't the 1091 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 1: right players on the field, and if we have the 1092 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 1: both quarterbacks playing, I think it's a very dangerous game here. 1093 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 1: Uh for Detroit who probably feeling good about themselves after 1094 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,440 Speaker 1: their latest win and they got a five game a 1095 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: team with a five game losing streak up Nicks in 1096 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 1: their schedule. But I would not be surprised. Even with 1097 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,240 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey not playing, and we know he's not playing, 1098 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 1: I think the Panthers have a shot here. I just 1099 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: don't trust the lines at all. Shout out to our 1100 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,839 Speaker 1: Romeo Acquire just because we've never mentioned him, and week 1101 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 1: after week you see him showing up for the Lions. 1102 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: So I went and checked on like PF, like, how's 1103 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: this guy doing this year? He's in the top five 1104 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: or six pressures for any edge defender in the league. 1105 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: Romeo a'quara has been on fire. How about Matt Patricia 1106 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,839 Speaker 1: developing some defensive talent? There's his first So yeah, it's 1107 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: an overdoe um. But yes, also keep in mind that 1108 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 1: the last time we saw the Panthers. They gave up 1109 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,800 Speaker 1: fifty yards of offense. So Kevin, If Kenny Golladay's playing 1110 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford's playing and DeAndre Swift continues to develop 1111 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: and Marvin Jones is in the mix, they might be 1112 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: able to be the latest team to score a lot 1113 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:42,879 Speaker 1: against Carolina. Um. All right, here we go back to me. Uh, 1114 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 1: pretty easy. Patriots at Texans. Uh, this is an interesting 1115 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,880 Speaker 1: game to me. The Texans hold no interest to me 1116 00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: at this stage. But Deshaun Watson still on the team, 1117 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 1: and that's cool. You get to watch DeShawn Watson on 1118 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,879 Speaker 1: a secondary screen on a Sunday. Life could be worse. 1119 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: The more interesting storyline, uh, here is the Patriots who 1120 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 1: have gotten off the mat with back to back prime 1121 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:10,320 Speaker 1: time wins. One against the Jets wasn't overly impressive, barely 1122 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: beating the worst team in football. But then you go 1123 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: and you bring uh takedown the Ravens at Foxborough on 1124 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: Sunday night. That was more impressive. So they have a 1125 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 1: chance here. There's still they're still in a tough spot 1126 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: because the division is probably gonna get away from him 1127 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: and be gone. Because the Bills, even with their loss, 1128 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,720 Speaker 1: are still comfortably ahead. And you look at the wild 1129 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: card set up in the a f C. It is 1130 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: just filled with six and three teams. It's crazy. How 1131 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 1: many six and three teams teams right now with three 1132 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: losses in the NFL. That's wild. Yeah, that that is 1133 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 1: very strange. So all the Patriots can do is do 1134 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: the old cliche and just play the team on their 1135 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 1: schedule and try to start stacking up wins. They got 1136 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: two in a row, and now you got Houston, which 1137 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: has been one of the worst teams in the league, 1138 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 1: even with DeShawn wi in this year. So I like 1139 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 1: the Patriots chances. I said this. I hit this point 1140 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday night, so I'm not gonna belabor it. But 1141 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 1: I think the idea that the Patriots are like this 1142 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 1: totally hopeless team that has no chance to win and 1143 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 1: they're plucky underdogs and all this stuff, there's still a 1144 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: lot there, uh to build on. And I'll throw one 1145 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 1: guy out there, and I know they don't love It's 1146 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,959 Speaker 1: the way they use them is interesting, Damian Harris, because 1147 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 1: it seems like they have them do all the dirty 1148 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: work and then don't give him any glory, uh, and 1149 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,439 Speaker 1: he shine when it's time to get in the end zone. 1150 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 1: But Damian Harris is just like super impressive to me, 1151 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: is a running back. So if you have Harris and 1152 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 1: then Cam obviously with his abilities, you can make up 1153 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 1: for the fact that you're not gonna be getting big 1154 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 1: chunk plays most weeks. And I didn't bring up Jakobe 1155 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: Meyer is a guy that's starting to evolve a little bit. 1156 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 1: So the Patriots, all right, I don't think they're a 1157 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 1: playoff team, but I still could see them getting to 1158 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 1: nine and seven and maybe that does get them in 1159 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 1: the back door. Well, they're playing that weird berserker role 1160 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: in a sense, because I mean, you play them, you lose, 1161 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 1: and then, like in Baltimore, it's a week of hideous 1162 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 1: headlines and narratives and everyone's upset and what's wrong with 1163 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens. The Patriots I thought had one of their 1164 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,760 Speaker 1: best performances by their offensive line. Now they've had issues 1165 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,320 Speaker 1: there this season a little bit, but they blew Baltimore 1166 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: off the ball. They ran the ball really well, and 1167 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 1: so I like the idea of being able to go 1168 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 1: do that against the Texans. The Texans, as we mentioned before, 1169 00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean sold out to stop Cleveland's run and couldn't 1170 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 1: do it. So if you're New England, you're sort of 1171 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 1: a similar type of team. Your your your challenge through 1172 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 1: the air. Why not just go, you know, use your 1173 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 1: strength and try to blister Houston And yeah, I think 1174 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 1: they've won every game where they haven't turned the ball 1175 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 1: over the Patriots, and basically those are the games where 1176 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: Cam didn't have to throw too much. And it's such 1177 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 1: a mismatch you would think you would think that they 1178 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 1: do it like that. The Texans, if you look at 1179 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 1: the way they spend their money, their a disaster because 1180 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,680 Speaker 1: they have so much money on defense and a lot 1181 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 1: of those guys are supposed to be like good at 1182 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: stopping the run, Zack Cunningham and J. J. Watt and 1183 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: and Solists and all these guys, and they are the 1184 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 1: worst run defense in the league by far. It's a 1185 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 1: total disaster. They're also last enforcing turnovers, so that's a problem. 1186 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 1: And then they got to try to um, you know, 1187 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 1: guard the second coming of you know, Jerry Rice and 1188 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: Jacobe Myers. I don't know if you guys saw this. 1189 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: PF tweet said the top three PF scores of the 1190 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: season at wide receiver number one Davante Adams, Okay, I'll 1191 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 1: give it to him. Number two, what a rookie season 1192 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: for Justin Jefferson and number three Jacobe Myers. Watch out 1193 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, Julio Jones. All you guys are not Stefon 1194 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: Diggs whatever. Like you guys are in the mix, but 1195 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 1: you're no Jacoby Myers. I can't wait until March, and 1196 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 1: we're trying to think of things to talk about, and 1197 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 1: Greg gets into his talking point of how the two thousand, 1198 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 1: twenty nine and seven Patriots were his favorite Patriots team. Ever, 1199 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: it's it's coming, just getting ready because you could feel 1200 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: the buzz I would Ricky would would embrace them. She's 1201 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 1: been very anti Cam and so now, I mean, he 1202 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 1: can't say one thing. It's not even about It's not 1203 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 1: even about that. It's the fumble on the final drive, 1204 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: it's the you know, not getting it's where it's third 1205 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 1: and fourteen and they throw it ahead yesterday. It's just 1206 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: he's just not doing what I want. Here's the thing 1207 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: he's not. We know where Cam is pretty much. He's not. 1208 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 1: He's never gonna be two thousand fifteen m v P 1209 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 1: CAM again. But he's still But he looks like that 1210 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,439 Speaker 1: against the Seahawks. Listen, he looks like Cam Newton still 1211 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 1: and sometimes that guy comes out and it's like, oh man, 1212 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 1: he's still Cam, but he's more limited at this point, 1213 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 1: but he's still good enough to win that. Yeah, you 1214 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: know what he is. He's a he's a g D 1215 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 1: miracle for one million dollars a season. If they were 1216 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 1: playing Jared Stidham, they might be owing sixteen. I don't 1217 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: I don't think Eric was, but I don't think Eric 1218 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 1: was ready for the Patriots kind of suck now routine. 1219 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 1: She she's you know, she's not Greg's age, and I 1220 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: have all these like Patriots in like really missed the 1221 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 1: team from It's like, no, you don't you. Erica is 1222 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: just like not ready for the team to be like 1223 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 1: the tenth best team in the a f C. Listen, 1224 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 1: you guys, you're not special anymore, Erica. That's what it 1225 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 1: comes down to, Erica, come on, well listen. Okay, like 1226 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 1: I said on the Network show, it's got the third 1227 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 1: in the a f C East Pats versus the third 1228 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 1: in the a f C South Texas. Okay, you guys, 1229 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 1: this is you have to come back to it. This 1230 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 1: is a matchup for the Ages, Like, I can't think 1231 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 1: of something more exciting. Okay, you know j C. Jackson 1232 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 1: intercept my heart baby, Like, that's amazing. I'm so excited 1233 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 1: for this game, and the Patriots are gonna win it, 1234 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: and I'm locking it up there you are, Yeah, well 1235 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 1: you're on it. You're just like the Patriots. You're on 1236 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 1: a little winning streak yourself. So you know, you guys 1237 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 1: are both what are you gonna do? The Patriots, You're 1238 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 1: you're occasionally cut cheating. You know, it's a lot of similarities. 1239 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And on air, you can't even argue with me. No, 1240 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 1: you're You're good. You're moving on. It's snakes to the 1241 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 1: old Zeuser. I will grab the Jets at Chargers basically 1242 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 1: a shook game. I think we're picking for, yeah, shook 1243 01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:22,160 Speaker 1: at this point. I you know the level of frustration 1244 01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 1: for this Jet season, because we just talked about it 1245 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 1: when they almost before they go into their by, they 1246 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 1: almost beat the Pats and and you see with their 1247 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,480 Speaker 1: full compliment of wide receivers that it's really not terrible. 1248 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 1: Their skill players at wide receiver, and you could put 1249 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 1: points up against an average defense like the Patriots. So 1250 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 1: you're thinking yourself, oh, seven games. Now, they have seven 1251 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 1: games left in the season, their O and nine, and 1252 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 1: they're trying to do two things. They're either trying to 1253 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 1: get Trevor Lawrence with the number one overall pick, or 1254 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 1: they're trying to see signs of life from Sam Donald, 1255 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 1: which would maybe if he did show signs of life 1256 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: and thrive, would take them out of the number one 1257 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 1: one overall pick. But then you set up a situation 1258 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: where you get behind Donald, and then Joe Douglas uses 1259 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 1: all these assets to build around Donald the right way, 1260 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 1: which has never happened. The only fly in the ointment, 1261 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,280 Speaker 1: of course, because there's always a fly in the ointment. 1262 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 1: With the Jets, I'm piste off Angelo, is that Sam 1263 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,479 Speaker 1: Donald's shoulder isn't right. It's still banged up. They ruled 1264 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 1: him out on Monday, which I found ominous, which tells 1265 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 1: me that it's not even close to being ready to play. 1266 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,919 Speaker 1: So the idea that Sam Donald might have already thrown 1267 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 1: his final pass with the Jets, I think that's now 1268 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 1: in play. If you're talking about a right shoulder and 1269 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 1: you're talking about injury something he's injured twice and he 1270 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 1: needs to look out for his own self at this 1271 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: point as we look ahead to a career reboot, most 1272 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: likely somewhere else, as much as the Jets need to 1273 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 1: make sure they don't ruin this kid's future by putting 1274 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 1: him back out on the field, which I wouldn't put 1275 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: past this organization with this current regime, or at least 1276 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. So more frustration because you don't get 1277 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 1: that last look at donald the way you thought you 1278 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 1: were going to get um. And I don't really have 1279 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 1: anything else to say on the Jets other than I'm 1280 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,680 Speaker 1: piste off Angelo because that is what I was looking 1281 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: forward to. Donalds with crowd or with Perryman with Beckton 1282 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 1: on the field. Don't even get that. Jets fans don't 1283 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 1: get nice things the Chargers. I don't like this haircut. 1284 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 1: I don't like Justin Herbert's hair cut. And I'm not 1285 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 1: making fun of a kid for having a bad haircut. 1286 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 1: I've gotten a bad haircut. I got a bad haircut 1287 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 1: right before my senior problem. I think it's why my 1288 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 1: senior problem wasn't successful. Um, So I'm not making fun 1289 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 1: of him for that, but I do feel there's some 1290 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 1: mojo that you could because they were glorious locks. It 1291 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 1: was long and it was a little bit greasy, but 1292 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 1: it also represented, uh, you know, he's this like kid 1293 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 1: that's confident and he's not like everybody else. Now he 1294 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 1: kind of looks like every twenty two year old that 1295 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 1: I ever knew when I was growing up. So, uh, 1296 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 1: is that going to take his play down and on? 1297 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, I know it sounds ridiculous. I feel 1298 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 1: like that's a stamp of approval. And it happened to 1299 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 1: Samson like in the old uh way back in the 1300 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 1: old days, that cut his hair off. He lost his strength. 1301 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 1: But um, you know, ultimately the Jets want to be 1302 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 1: what the Chargers are. Forget all the last minute losses, 1303 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: but a year from now, whether it's Donald or whether 1304 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 1: it's Trevor Lawrence, to have a quarterback that you totally 1305 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: believe in. I I don't know if it's unfair, but 1306 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,800 Speaker 1: I'd be a little bit concerned about Donald's durability in general. 1307 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 1: It seems like it's always one thing or another, and 1308 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,480 Speaker 1: it's you know, he hasn't been in a bad situation, 1309 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 1: but you want to be one of these teams that 1310 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,000 Speaker 1: have five one of those five or six quarterbacks that 1311 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 1: do like a hundred and sixties starts in a row 1312 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 1: and skill and he doesn't have it. He doesn't doesn't 1313 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 1: appear to be. I hate like stamping him with that, 1314 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:38,960 Speaker 1: but I mean it's hard to get a read on 1315 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,760 Speaker 1: a guy that's like continually out of the lineup. Well, 1316 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,760 Speaker 1: it's a solder injury too, which is you know, a 1317 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 1: worrisome one for any any quarterback. Adam Gates did say 1318 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,360 Speaker 1: he expects Sam Donald to play at some point this season. 1319 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,320 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, though. I think this is 1320 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,000 Speaker 1: their best chance to win, you know, for a while. 1321 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 1: It's the last team they play with a losing record 1322 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 1: until the paid that currently as a losing record until 1323 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots. I'm little anxious if I was a Chargers 1324 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:07,440 Speaker 1: fan about the Chargers as some two score favorite out there. Flacco. 1325 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 1: Flacco look pretty good last week, I mean, and he's 1326 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 1: got some weapons. Joey Bosa is back at practice. He 1327 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 1: says he can't remember when he got a concussion, and 1328 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 1: he's now been out for three weeks with a concussion, 1329 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 1: which is a problem um Man. And Chris Harris is 1330 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 1: back in practice. So those two guys would would help 1331 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,800 Speaker 1: a great deal. But that haircut it's it's not so 1332 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 1: much the haircut itself as much as the decision making process. 1333 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember John Lott, the 1334 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 1: crazy locker like weight room guy who for a while 1335 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 1: the NFL Combine made into a mini celebrity because he 1336 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 1: would scream and yell and be goofy. He's the guy 1337 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 1: who cut Justin Herbert's haircut. He just had his strength 1338 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 1: and conditioning coach cut his hair. And it's like, that's 1339 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,120 Speaker 1: bad decision making. You want something, you want something more 1340 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 1: out of your quarterback, better stylus. Please, um, all right, 1341 01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:02,080 Speaker 1: don't trust John Lott. I'm come on? Is that if 1342 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,840 Speaker 1: their games? No, we have one more? Mark close it out? 1343 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,240 Speaker 1: What a game it is. It's the Cincinnati Bengals at 1344 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 1: the Washington Football Team. I don't know, I kind of 1345 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,800 Speaker 1: want to see a little more from Zach Taylor. It's like, 1346 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 1: this is a team that has their quarterback and I 1347 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,800 Speaker 1: get I know they're not a perfect roster, but they 1348 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 1: play three NFC East teams over the next four weeks. 1349 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 1: I don't think you have a lot of excuses to 1350 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 1: come out of this season with you know, two or 1351 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 1: three wins. Again, I mean show me a little more 1352 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 1: down the stretch Cincinnati, and it's a good opportunity. Like 1353 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:39,160 Speaker 1: Washington right now, was that some dogs in Erica's neighborhood 1354 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 1: or something like that, and let's leave that in our 1355 01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 1: Bengals then drop Ground were so annoying and for that 1356 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 1: you get the jugular got them go ahead, mark day 1357 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 1: off for Greg. I don't you know, I don't necessarily 1358 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 1: know that we need to be down in the Bengal 1359 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,080 Speaker 1: tiger into nothing, but it helps Washington, Gary and cut 1360 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 1: Christian Is on. I are they they're left tackle Cornelis 1361 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 1: Lucas was you know, he's week to week that really 1362 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 1: banged up on their line that said, Um, I don't 1363 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 1: really know where pressure comes from for the Bengals unless 1364 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 1: you're Karl Lawson. So this game I have apologies to 1365 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:21,520 Speaker 1: Nick Shook because, uh, you know, it could be worse. 1366 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,439 Speaker 1: It could also be a lot better. Um I try. 1367 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 1: I feel highly about Nick Shook, so I feel like 1368 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 1: this is gonna waste some of his time. But um 1369 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 1: I feel the same way about Washington, Like you know, 1370 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 1: the whole thing, we're like, we're chasing this division title. 1371 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,360 Speaker 1: Just let's work on building the roster, please. I I don't. 1372 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:43,440 Speaker 1: I don't understand, like exactly what's going on with Ron 1373 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 1: Rivera as in some of these coaches that I fall for. 1374 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 1: I like Ron Rivera ton, but he's sort of the opposite. 1375 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of old school thinking. 1376 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,760 Speaker 1: Um and you know, even I do like this one 1377 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,960 Speaker 1: little thing that happened last week, which was a key 1378 01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:01,600 Speaker 1: to leave announced the Washington Detroit game and kept calling 1379 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 1: Scott Turner the son of NORV Turner, young Turner. He 1380 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:06,960 Speaker 1: never even called him by his first name, just called 1381 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 1: him young Turner all day long. And it was like 1382 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,720 Speaker 1: I was like kind of tracking the game vaguely, and 1383 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 1: I was like, who is he talking about that? When 1384 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 1: I figured out, I'm like, that's wrap name. Uh, Scott 1385 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 1: Turner's done, okay job. I don't think this game is 1386 01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:26,160 Speaker 1: so bad just because Joe Burrows involved and he's fun, 1387 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 1: and their offense can be fun when they're not playing 1388 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 1: the Ravens or Steelers. And I guess I'm buying more 1389 01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 1: into the Alex Smith thing than than everyone else. I've 1390 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 1: been impressed with how he's played the last two weeks. 1391 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 1: He to me has looked like the best Washington quarterback, 1392 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,000 Speaker 1: which It's just been this weird turn that the second 1393 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,440 Speaker 1: Alex Smith plays, everyone like stops being impressed by his 1394 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 1: comeback and is like more dismissive of like this guy's 1395 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 1: a bum. And I actually I'm thinking, like, I don't know. 1396 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,520 Speaker 1: It kind of looks like Alex Smith always looks, which 1397 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 1: to me is somewhat impressive in a tough situation. Like 1398 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: they moved the ball really well the whole game against Detroit. 1399 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 1: Some things went against him. He's not I'm not saying 1400 01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 1: he's a top fifteen quarterback by any means, but I'd 1401 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,000 Speaker 1: like to see him get get a win and and 1402 01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:09,880 Speaker 1: this is certainly an opportunity to get one. Yeah, I 1403 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 1: think that I'm with you, Like he's gotten back on 1404 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,160 Speaker 1: the field. That was a minor miracle, maybe not even 1405 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,880 Speaker 1: so minor. Uh, he's now played well in a game 1406 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:22,200 Speaker 1: that was cool. Now get the dub, complete the comeback story. 1407 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,920 Speaker 1: Who knows it would be cynical if you were hop 1408 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:30,760 Speaker 1: scotched for Comeback Player of the Year. He's gonna have it. 1409 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,360 Speaker 1: I saw somebody on Twitter. I'm trying to think. I 1410 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,080 Speaker 1: don't even I don't remember who tweeted it, but uh, 1411 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 1: throughout a different player for Comeback Player of the Year. 1412 01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,400 Speaker 1: That was I've seen some big Ben love, which seems so, 1413 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,360 Speaker 1: but you're right, then I have to their some. I 1414 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 1: think people are bettered of the Alex Smith narrative a little, 1415 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,920 Speaker 1: and it's like, let's not lose focus here, like he's 1416 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 1: the comeback player, all right, let's just hear me out. 1417 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,759 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you're gonna give it to Alex Smith, 1418 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 1: and he deserves it. But I don't think it's absurd 1419 01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:00,599 Speaker 1: if big Ben throws thirty eight touched downs and four 1420 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 1: interceptions and the Steelers go fifteen and one, I mean, well, 1421 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,360 Speaker 1: it gets it. He missed the entire year with a 1422 01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 1: he shredded his elbow last season, I mean three legaments 1423 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 1: torn and he's thirty eight years old. That's that's pretty 1424 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,720 Speaker 1: awesome coming, I know. But in March we're making fun 1425 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 1: of him for like looking like a four pound mountain man. 1426 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:21,240 Speaker 1: So it ve know it the narrative, right, it gets 1427 01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 1: to the point which West has always said and me too. 1428 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like, what is comeback Player of the Year. 1429 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,800 Speaker 1: It's a morphous It's like one year Philip Rivers won 1430 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 1: it after being like the twenty second best quarterback to 1431 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,760 Speaker 1: being like that tent and it's like, to me, it's 1432 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 1: more about the off field what you have overcome, and 1433 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 1: so that's that's Alex. But that reminds me actually a 1434 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,559 Speaker 1: little bit of of I wish, you know, I always 1435 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,160 Speaker 1: wish West is on the show, But I'm remembering one 1436 01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:45,640 Speaker 1: of the times he was on the show on a 1437 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,720 Speaker 1: Sunday night and he thought it was really important. And 1438 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 1: this is what gave me a little hint that he 1439 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,639 Speaker 1: is kind of buying back into the Bengals. He thought 1440 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 1: it was really important that Joe Burrow stood up after 1441 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 1: his total disaster against Baltimore, and the next week he 1442 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,840 Speaker 1: came back out and looked to rific and like you 1443 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,800 Speaker 1: believed in Joe Burrogan. And so he's kind of in 1444 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,599 Speaker 1: a similar spot here too, because Joe Burrow played terribly 1445 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,600 Speaker 1: last week. They all did. I'm not saying, you know 1446 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna have rookie moments, but you don't want to 1447 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,840 Speaker 1: totally give him a pass. He looked like a rookie, 1448 01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,720 Speaker 1: and so you'd love to see him respond and have 1449 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,800 Speaker 1: a nice game. I'd say on a micro level, he's 1450 01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,680 Speaker 1: done that inside of games too. No, you are you 1451 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,840 Speaker 1: are right that like watching Burrow is no different than 1452 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,560 Speaker 1: watching some of these other young quarterbacks that stir the imagination. 1453 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,720 Speaker 1: So that was your upside, All right, good stuff, loved it. 1454 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,360 Speaker 1: I have some breaking news for you. I have some 1455 01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 1: breaking news. Dan snow breaking. We might just retape part 1456 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,599 Speaker 1: of the show. So let's see what he's saying. First. 1457 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:45,639 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater is not expected to play this week. According 1458 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,160 Speaker 1: to our guy Ian Rappaport, that would put in h 1459 01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,360 Speaker 1: p J Walker XFL star p J Walker in line 1460 01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,720 Speaker 1: to start again. That's tough. So he goes down with 1461 01:10:55,720 --> 01:11:00,280 Speaker 1: the knee injury late in the game on Sunday against 1462 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,479 Speaker 1: the Bucks. Should have been flagged that hit, but that 1463 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,600 Speaker 1: bees should have been flagged. You're right, it's the opposity 1464 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 1: of the one that he destroyed in practice with the 1465 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:12,040 Speaker 1: Vikings a few years back. Testing revealed no structural damage. 1466 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,080 Speaker 1: But I guess there must be a little bit more 1467 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 1: to it, uh than that, which is just disappointing. Puts 1468 01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:21,599 Speaker 1: the Panthers obviously in a very tough spot. Yeah, one 1469 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,439 Speaker 1: of those niece s brains that they have a bye 1470 01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,760 Speaker 1: week coming up, not next week, but the week after. 1471 01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,080 Speaker 1: You know, I think they're just trying to be careful. 1472 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 1: But either way, p J Walker was a fun quarterback 1473 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,599 Speaker 1: in the XFL. But the limited samples, that very limited 1474 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,879 Speaker 1: we've seen in the NFL preseason hasn't been overly promising. 1475 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,679 Speaker 1: So p J Walker would have walked to the XFL 1476 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:49,439 Speaker 1: m v P if that season wasn't rule. Go in 1477 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,959 Speaker 1: a game with p J Walker and people will be impressed. 1478 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 1: But that that's the news there, alright, good stuff so well, 1479 01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 1: not good stuff. Hopefully Teddy gets back. Um, well, that's 1480 01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,040 Speaker 1: I guess he could to be a comeback Player of 1481 01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:02,559 Speaker 1: the Year. He's been back a couple of years now. 1482 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 1: He's not in the mix, but I think everybody roots 1483 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,519 Speaker 1: for Teddy Bridgewater and you hope this is a short 1484 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 1: term situation for him. Um, all right, we'll be back. Well, 1485 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:14,920 Speaker 1: we'll be back in a couple of ways. We'll be 1486 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 1: back on television on Saturday, Saturday morning on NFL Network. 1487 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,599 Speaker 1: Set your DVRs uh for a little early football talk. 1488 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,599 Speaker 1: It's a version of this very podcast, but it also 1489 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,519 Speaker 1: has some new elements, including a speed round. We do 1490 01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,000 Speaker 1: some a little bit of a deep dive on the 1491 01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,880 Speaker 1: locks of the week. So it's fun and you get 1492 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 1: to see these beautiful mugs on your big TV and 1493 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,880 Speaker 1: what what a what a joy that must be for you. 1494 01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,720 Speaker 1: So check that out. And then of course on Sunday, uh, 1495 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 1: the flagship show where we recap every game we just 1496 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:52,000 Speaker 1: previewed for you today. You had something to add, Mark, No, 1497 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,519 Speaker 1: I'm doing administrative work on the side. I'm not listening 1498 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 1: to a thing. Come on, mar come on, but I 1499 01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 1: think it'd be great. Please watch us. You know, um 1500 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: read our articles. Uh, you know, fashion your week around us. 1501 01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,000 Speaker 1: That's our that's our theme for the week. It is 1502 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,200 Speaker 1: self promotion. Well, Mark, here's it. Well, here's the thing. Mark, 1503 01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 1: you were getting a little upset with some of the 1504 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,240 Speaker 1: promotion from Greg and I earlier. Uh, this is a 1505 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:19,080 Speaker 1: seriously but for you to promote the network show on Saturday. 1506 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,400 Speaker 1: So get up, get the people excited. What else could 1507 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,960 Speaker 1: they learn from watching the network show? I'd say this. 1508 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's been a busy week. Probably if you're 1509 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,479 Speaker 1: a parent, Um, if you're on the on the West coast, 1510 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, you set your alarm for four fifty five am. 1511 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 1: You get up. The show starts at five in the morning. 1512 01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,519 Speaker 1: I can't think of a better way to start a Saturday, 1513 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:43,360 Speaker 1: four hours earlier than you'd want to. That's a nice cell, Ricky. Yeah. 1514 01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,360 Speaker 1: So I've got a few things. Um. The week's link 1515 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,880 Speaker 1: obviously is Monday. Make sure you take it, uh, make 1516 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,320 Speaker 1: sure you watch it or DVR it or whatever. And 1517 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 1: also I have another storybook coming out on nfl UP 1518 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,880 Speaker 1: either tonight or tomorrow. And it is about since an 1519 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,080 Speaker 1: Annie Verse Washington, and you know Joe Burrow and Chase 1520 01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,640 Speaker 1: Young first and second overall pick and they both were 1521 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,599 Speaker 1: teammates at Ohio State. So it's got some cool little 1522 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,720 Speaker 1: fun facts in there that you should check out. You're 1523 01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,880 Speaker 1: really going for that, Cincinnati, Um, big audience time share there, right, 1524 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,760 Speaker 1: huge ratings Cincinnati. Yes, Joe Burrow you know, made his 1525 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,360 Speaker 1: bones at l s U, but apparently played in another 1526 01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 1: college but he was like red shirt and it really matter. 1527 01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,799 Speaker 1: All right, good stuff, all right, um, thank you everybody 1528 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,000 Speaker 1: for listening, Thank you for watching. We love you. Oh 1529 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:38,080 Speaker 1: and one more thing uh coming up this week, Uh 1530 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:43,519 Speaker 1: game pass. Everybody overseas outside the US and Canada are 1531 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:48,320 Speaker 1: game pass um special is going to be landing on 1532 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,240 Speaker 1: your devices, so make sure you check that out. Alright, 1533 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,240 Speaker 1: that's it. All the plugs are out. Dan Hands is 1534 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,880 Speaker 1: signing off for a quiet storm. The old boss, Rocky 1535 01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:01,920 Speaker 1: Holli Wood behind the at Glass until Sunday night,