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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're still

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Speaker 1: picking confetti out of our undies from Sunday's national title game.

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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, April ninth, and on today's show will be

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Speaker 1: taking a break from college hoops madness Olivia Miles to

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Speaker 1: TCU to Naya Lats into South Carolina. Oh, we got

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to tomorrow, but today we're going

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Speaker 1: to pivot back to the NWSL and get right into

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Speaker 1: my conversation with the Washington Spirits vice President of Fan

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Speaker 1: Growth in Community Rashauna Hamilton. We caught up with their

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Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago to discuss a brand new season.

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Speaker 1: What made her pivot from coaching aspirations to community engagement work,

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Speaker 1: Why it's so crucial for teams and franchises to listen

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Speaker 1: to their fans and being intentional about uplifting cultures across

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Speaker 1: the DMV area with the Spirits events and theme nights.

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Speaker 2: That interview's coming up right after this.

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Speaker 1: Joining us now, she's the vice president of Fan Growth

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Speaker 1: and Community for the washer Rington's Spirit of the National

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Speaker 1: Women's Soccer League, with previous stops at the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 1: and Atlanta Hawks. She's a George Mason University alum and

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Speaker 1: got her master's at VCU.

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Speaker 2: She could be a food photographer.

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Speaker 1: Based on the snapshots of a recent trip to Austin,

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Speaker 1: she was eating good and snapping good picks.

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Speaker 2: It's Rashaanna Hamilton. Hirashaana, Hi, how are you good?

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Speaker 1: Except I was also recently in Austin and I didn't

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Speaker 2: Based on those photos, well, I.

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Speaker 3: Do love to eat. I feel like the only way

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Speaker 3: to know a city is to eat your way through it,

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Speaker 3: and I definitely put on a few calories that should

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Speaker 3: require a couple of jogs once I got home.

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Speaker 1: That is my strategy too, But it's also walk, so

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Speaker 1: I have to walk everywhere so I could see everything

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Speaker 1: and then break up the walk in with the eaton.

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Speaker 1: So I'm jealous of your trip. It looked awesome. I

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Speaker 1: want to go back to the beginning and talk about

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Speaker 1: your relationship with sports, whether playing or watching growing up,

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Speaker 1: and how you ended up on this path to working

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. My dad was a college basketball coach, and so

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Speaker 3: I played sports growing up. I watched him. He was

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Speaker 3: won two national championships at Yukon, and so I just

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Speaker 3: sat on the sidelines watching such great sports happen. That's

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Speaker 3: And it's very different, but I knew that I wanted

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you actually spent some time when you were at

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Speaker 2: Was that the path originally was to get into the

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Speaker 3: Of course, I was like, Okay, my career is over.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to go play overseas. I said, I'll

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Speaker 3: a high level. And what I realized is, hats off

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Speaker 3: just you're really seeing the landscape change in college sports.

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Speaker 3: And so I thought I was going to be a

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Speaker 2: What did you like about it coaching?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think what's cool about coaching is that you

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Speaker 3: this will keep me young and keep me cool. Like

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Speaker 3: to this day, my dad is still probably the coolest man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's like a job that will both aid you quickly

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And we thought wine was the only thing that

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Let's talk about the Washington spirit.

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Speaker 1: You're a DMV Natives, So what did it mean to

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Speaker 3: The spirit is crazy, crazy, crazy big. Right now we

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Speaker 3: I will tell you when I got the call and

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I want to get into some the differences from your

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Speaker 3: That is totally fair. I get that question all the time.

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Speaker 3: What I say is I really kind of work in

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Speaker 3: So for us, we have one of the best fan

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Speaker 3: the second space really is our community impact space, and

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Speaker 1: I was a minority owner of the Red Stars for

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Speaker 1: How do you use the JumboTron or screens around the

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Speaker 1: How do you respond to those restrictions? How do you

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Speaker 3: Well, I think one thing that we've done that has

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Speaker 3: But when we have milestone moments within a match, we

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Speaker 3: We have our supporters teaching all of the chants and

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Speaker 1: Nice you're a year into the job. You started and

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Speaker 3: Honest, it was a little rough. I was like, what

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Speaker 2: What do you think's the biggest difference when you're looking

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Speaker 2: to serve fans of women's sports in the women's sports

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Speaker 3: We have done a lot of learning about our fans,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to tell you because I think this

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Speaker 3: is a great, great story on that is that I

440
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Speaker 3: had invited I have friends obviously all over the city.

441
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Speaker 3: I had invited a couple of my guy friends out.

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Speaker 3: There was like four of them. They are a little

443
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Speaker 3: younger than me, and so they're still in that age

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Speaker 3: where they have a good time when they go out

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Speaker 3: and party, and so I said, just come to a

446
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Speaker 3: Spirit game, just come to the home opener. You might

447
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Speaker 3: have a good time. I just want you to experience it.

448
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Speaker 3: They were open to it. They came and after I

449
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Speaker 3: get four text messages that was so much fun. Please

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Speaker 3: let me know when I can come back. But I

451
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Speaker 3: think that is the power of women's sports now is

452
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Speaker 3: that it's not a charity. It is entertainment and it

453
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Speaker 3: is exciting, it's fun to watch. There's a great environment.

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Speaker 3: And I tell you, I was like, okay, I have

455
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Speaker 3: converted four Spirit fans that if you would have asked.

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Speaker 1: Me, it's cool to be a part of yeah, the

457
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Speaker 1: way that it didn't used to be, right. It's part

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Speaker 1: of the water cooler talk, and it's part of being

459
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Speaker 1: able to keep up with what everyone wants to know

460
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Speaker 1: about and understand and like go to which is cool.

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Speaker 1: Last year, the Spirit celebrated the Black community in DC

462
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Speaker 1: with a Juneteenth celebration that included honoring Lincoln Phillips, legendary

463
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Speaker 1: soccer coach at Howard University, engaging with local small business.

464
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Speaker 1: Take us behind the scenes of creating an event like

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Speaker 1: that and how you can make sure it feels authentic

466
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Speaker 1: and not just a one off.

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Speaker 3: We are very intentional about talking to each community that

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Speaker 3: we identify and want to celebrate, and so specifically for Juneteenth,

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Speaker 3: we worked with curators at the Smithsonian African American Museum.

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Speaker 3: We worked with local community members, members that are running

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Speaker 3: nonprofits that help tell stories within DC of the black community.

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Speaker 3: And also, for so long d C had really been

473
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Speaker 3: known as Chocolate City. It had been known as a

474
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Speaker 3: safe haven in a place where black people can thrive

475
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Speaker 3: with culture, economically, with homes, and so Juneteenth gave us

476
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Speaker 3: an opportunity to embrace that. And the great thing about

477
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Speaker 3: being a DC native is that I already know the inroads,

478
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Speaker 3: I already know where to go. I've been in this

479
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Speaker 3: city for years, and so getting an opportunity to work

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Speaker 3: with those groups that helps it feel authentic. We're not

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Speaker 3: just pretending we are living these values. We are living

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Speaker 3: these moments, and we are really taking the time to

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Speaker 3: make sure if we are going to celebrate this group

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Speaker 3: of people and show the world how beautiful their culture is,

485
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Speaker 3: that we do that in a way that they would

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Speaker 3: feel proud of us for helping to do. And so

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Speaker 3: I think it's just about if you are not the expert,

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Speaker 3: and if you are not the person, then you go

489
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Speaker 3: find that expert and be perfectly okay being a good listener.

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Speaker 1: In addition to Juneteenth event, this year, you'll have that again.

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Speaker 1: You'll also have special theme games for things like Pride

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Speaker 1: and Hispanic Heritage among others. So there anything you can

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Speaker 1: tell us about what might be planned for this year

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Speaker 1: in terms of the theme nights you're having.

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Speaker 3: Listen, theme nights are a big deal over here. Okay,

496
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Speaker 3: We've got thirteen opportunities to bring fans out. And when

497
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Speaker 3: we say we know how to party for a theme,

498
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Speaker 3: we've been it. This year, we have our pitch side

499
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Speaker 3: pups have Pride, as you mentioned, we have Hispanic Heritage month.

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Speaker 3: We're working with our local Hispanic radio contacts to make

501
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Speaker 3: sure that again we're celebrating authentically. We're working with small businesses,

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Speaker 3: so we had Hispanic owned food trucks that partnered with

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Speaker 3: us last year. Anybody who experiences culture knows the number

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Speaker 3: one way to do it is through food, and so

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Speaker 3: you will always see us getting fans an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: have food be part of that culture. And so you'll

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Speaker 3: see that pregame in our new tailgating space. We have

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Speaker 3: just very much up to the ante when it comes

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Speaker 3: to theme nights. And I'm like, at this pace, I

510
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Speaker 3: don't know what we're going to do next year to

511
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Speaker 3: blow this year.

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Speaker 2: Out of the water.

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Speaker 1: What's the date on that Pitch side Pups. I will

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Speaker 1: attend anything with dogs.

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Speaker 3: Pitchside Puffs is coming very very very soon. So that

516
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Speaker 3: is our May second game. May second, We've got you down.

517
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Speaker 3: So we've got you and your down for May second

518
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Speaker 3: we go. It's also our celebration of AAPI heritage months.

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Speaker 3: So you'll get a combination of really strong food, really

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Speaker 3: good culture, and some cute pups.

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Speaker 2: Perfect. We'll hit the road right now, I'll throw them

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Speaker 2: in the car.

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Speaker 1: Women's soccer in the US used to be a predominantly

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Speaker 1: white sport, but that's changing.

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Speaker 2: There are some of the biggest names now women of.

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Speaker 1: Color, whether that's Triple Espresso like Trinity Rodman, Mausewans, and

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Speaker 1: Sophia Wilson formerly Sophia Smith, or international stars like Tamushawinga

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Speaker 1: and Barbara Banda. How does your approach to community connection

529
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Speaker 1: change because the makeup of the sport is changing.

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Speaker 3: Now because it is a global game. I think here

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Speaker 3: we are looking to bring that access to the communities

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Speaker 3: that historically have not had it, and so we do

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Speaker 3: that by partnering with community organizations. For US, that's organizations

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Speaker 3: like Boys and Girls Club and DC Scores, they are

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Speaker 3: already doing programming. They already are engaging with kids in

536
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Speaker 3: programming to help produce better outcomes for those kids. And

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Speaker 3: so what we do is we work with them to

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Speaker 3: help bring soccer as an avenue for them to experience sport.

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Speaker 3: And I think what we're finding is as we're going

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Speaker 3: into black and brown communities here, it is becoming more accessible,

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Speaker 3: more acceptable, it's becoming an option. I think they're also

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Speaker 3: seeing role models that look like them. Right, if you

543
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: can see it, you can be it. And so for

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Speaker 3: us it really has changed. I mean, our stadium is

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Speaker 3: in the Anacostia Navy Yard area, which is a historically

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Speaker 3: black community in DC, and so instead of going out

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Speaker 3: to more suburban communities, we've said, hey, if we want

548
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Speaker 3: to grow the game in black and brown communities, we

549
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Speaker 3: can actually do that right where Autyfield sits. How do

550
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Speaker 3: we work with DC Parks and rec How do we

551
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Speaker 3: work with some of these nonprofits that are in that community,

552
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Speaker 3: because we know that by doing that it helps further

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Speaker 3: our game, but it also helps clear that participation gap.

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Speaker 3: And I have to tell you that's important because in

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Speaker 3: a city with such a high minority population. We also

556
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: have the largest gap between girls and boys playing sports

557
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Speaker 3: in the entire country. We are the smallest space, but

558
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Speaker 3: we have a twenty percent difference in the amount of

559
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Speaker 3: girls in the amount of boys that are playing sports

560
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Speaker 3: in general. And so we have looked at that problem

561
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Speaker 3: and said, how do we help do our part to

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Speaker 3: fix it if nothing else in our sport.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of your superstars, Trinity Rodman, the kind of

564
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Speaker 1: player that sells tickets helps with the whole fan growth

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Speaker 1: part of your jobs. Real nice when she talks about

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Speaker 1: how playing club footy overseas is an inevitability, How does

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Speaker 1: that change your timeline for promoting her and centering her

568
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Speaker 1: in your efforts if you're aware that you might not

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Speaker 1: always have a Trinity Rodman in a Washington Spirit Jersey.

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Speaker 3: Listen, we have the Michelle Kange effect, and I think

571
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Speaker 3: that is more than enough. We are a global brand

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00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 3: is simply by having the Michelle Kaning effect. And I

573
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: think we continue to support our players. We continue to

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Speaker 3: really highlight our players, understand their talent, and I think

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Speaker 3: Michelle has been great at investing in the talent that

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Speaker 3: our women have. And we are focused on making sure

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00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: as many fans as possible, and DC could come out

578
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 3: and see Trinity play. And so I think you know,

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Speaker 3: for us, is it is that simple? It's focusing on

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Speaker 3: those things.

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Speaker 2: So is the Michelle Kang effect?

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Speaker 1: Don't count on Trinity leaving because we're going to convince her.

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Speaker 2: To stay, or is it count on Michelle being able

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Speaker 2: to get the next Trinity run?

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Speaker 3: Listen, all I know is I leave the sporting ops

586
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Speaker 3: to sporting.

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Speaker 2: Good answer, Good answer. Let's talk Michelle King.

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Speaker 1: How involved does she in the team's community outreach and

589
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Speaker 1: engagement with fans?

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Speaker 2: How much do you interact with her as an owner in.

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Speaker 1: The presentation of what your team stands for and how

592
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Speaker 1: you want to engage with the community.

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Speaker 3: Michelle really sets the tone for the team. The one

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Speaker 3: thing I will say is that Michelle King as an owner,

595
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Speaker 3: and the one word I will use is visionary. She

596
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Speaker 3: is involved in what we're doing. She is invested in

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Speaker 3: what we're doing, and she also understands the importance of

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Speaker 3: doing it in the nation's capital in DC. And so

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00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: she has invested in women's sports, but she's also looking

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Speaker 3: around DC and making sure that she's investing in DC.

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Speaker 3: So it's been exciting I think to have such a

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Speaker 3: visionary woman really helping the city.

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Speaker 1: When I think of Michelle King, the one word that

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Speaker 1: comes to mind for me is fits. Legendary fits. Do

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Speaker 1: you have a favorite and doesn't involve a cape?

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Speaker 3: Okay, my favorite Michelle look as I like to say

607
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: that eliewuk K is really anytime she gives me a sunglasses,

608
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: like any sunglass she gives me, I'm like, when we

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00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: have a meeting or or I shouldn't say a meeting.

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Speaker 3: When we are at a match and Michelle throws on

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Speaker 3: one of her glasses, I'm like, I'm here for this energy.

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00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: The thing amazing is about to happen and I'm about

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Speaker 3: to witness it. And I think, what's really cool is

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00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: that Michelle knows that her fashion is iconic and she

615
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: owns it. And she's like, don't believe me, just watch right.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a power play for sure.

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Speaker 1: I remember meeting her and being introduced to hers one

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Speaker 1: of the owners of the Red Stars, and I was

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Speaker 1: wearing jeans and a like zip up and she had

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Speaker 1: one of her looks on and I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: these are not the same people economically and otherwise.

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Speaker 2: Rashana, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: It's so fun to get a peek behind what teams

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Speaker 1: are doing, and there's so much good stuff happening at

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Speaker 1: the Spirit. It's nice to hear how y'all are getting

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Speaker 1: it done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we are trying, I will say, we are trying

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Speaker 3: to build little Spirit fans everywhere, big Spirit fans everywhere.

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Speaker 3: We are trying to do our part on the field.

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Speaker 3: But I think what's really cool is that we are

631
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Speaker 3: really trying to engage fans in a different way. We

632
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: are trying to show them how fun soccer is. And

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00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 3: I will tell you being able to witness even the

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00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: smallest how Hirschfeldt fan has been ultimately life changing. I

635
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: mean when you see a kid start crying because of

636
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: the way that how brought us into that extra time

637
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: and got some penalty kick action in the semi final

638
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: last year. I think it's just really symbolism of things

639
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: to come with this club, and I'm excited to see

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00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: how we keep growing and keep progressing and moving forward.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for Shauna. Yes, we have to take

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Speaker 1: another quick break when we return. Highlights that eat meet

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Speaker 1: a song that slaps welcome back slices first, a quick

645
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Speaker 1: shout out to Mary Zee, who won the Good Game

646
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Speaker 1: with Sarah Spain bracket challenge, and not only that, she's

647
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: a Connecticut resident and Yukon fan who made the trek

648
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 1: to Tampa and got to see her squad win in person.

649
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: Who's the big winner, clearly, Mary, Prize coming your way

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Speaker 1: just as soon as they get my ass to the

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Speaker 1: post office.

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Speaker 2: Mary.

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Speaker 1: We love that you're listening, but we want to get

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Speaker 1: you in the game every day too, So here's our

655
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Speaker 1: good gameplay of the day. If you find yourself in

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