1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:37,188 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,228 --> 00:00:24,388 Speaker 2: Good Mo Mom. 4 00:00:24,988 --> 00:00:26,868 Speaker 3: It has been as wild as a weekends you could 5 00:00:26,868 --> 00:00:29,468 Speaker 3: possibly have in the NFL. You expect the frenzy, but 6 00:00:29,508 --> 00:00:31,988 Speaker 3: when it's all said and done and you get trades 7 00:00:32,068 --> 00:00:33,908 Speaker 3: and marquee players that are not going to end up 8 00:00:33,948 --> 00:00:36,308 Speaker 3: with the teams that we thought Jason, at least in 9 00:00:36,308 --> 00:00:38,068 Speaker 3: my mind, it just becomes a little tense. 10 00:00:38,388 --> 00:00:39,428 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. 11 00:00:39,428 --> 00:00:44,108 Speaker 5: It's been a crazy, crazy frenzy in free agency this year. 12 00:00:44,268 --> 00:00:45,748 Speaker 4: The Max Crosby. 13 00:00:45,348 --> 00:00:47,948 Speaker 5: Trade that we've been talking about for days now. Tom 14 00:00:47,948 --> 00:00:50,548 Speaker 5: and Ian have barely slept over the last forty eight hours. 15 00:00:50,588 --> 00:00:52,708 Speaker 4: They've been doing a great job for us, man, it's 16 00:00:52,748 --> 00:00:53,308 Speaker 4: been exciting. 17 00:00:53,668 --> 00:00:56,108 Speaker 3: I don't think any of our insiders have actually stepped 18 00:00:56,268 --> 00:00:58,468 Speaker 3: off of their actual seats at their homes. We got 19 00:00:58,468 --> 00:01:01,028 Speaker 3: complete analysis from those guys and the latest news. But 20 00:01:01,068 --> 00:01:03,348 Speaker 3: it has been a whorld when two days for all 21 00:01:03,348 --> 00:01:06,108 Speaker 3: the parties that are involved the Max Crosby Saga Ravens 22 00:01:06,108 --> 00:01:09,788 Speaker 3: Executive VP and general manager, our past has been under scrutiny. 23 00:01:09,868 --> 00:01:13,268 Speaker 3: Intense scrutiny, I should say, since this news broke spoke 24 00:01:13,308 --> 00:01:17,108 Speaker 3: to the media yesterday explaining Baltimore's decision to back out 25 00:01:17,308 --> 00:01:18,548 Speaker 3: of that Blockbuster deal. 26 00:01:20,788 --> 00:01:23,548 Speaker 6: I mean, I understand it, you know, I understand it. 27 00:01:23,588 --> 00:01:26,108 Speaker 6: We live in that age of skepticism and people question, 28 00:01:26,628 --> 00:01:29,068 Speaker 6: especially people that don't really know me or know the 29 00:01:29,108 --> 00:01:32,788 Speaker 6: Ravens culture and the Ravens organization. So I understand it. 30 00:01:33,948 --> 00:01:37,268 Speaker 6: As I said at the beginning, We've got a responsibility. 31 00:01:37,268 --> 00:01:39,788 Speaker 6: I've got a responsibility to the Ravens, to this community, 32 00:01:39,828 --> 00:01:42,468 Speaker 6: to our fans, and to Steve Bashati to do what 33 00:01:42,508 --> 00:01:45,908 Speaker 6: we think is best for the club. And that's what 34 00:01:45,908 --> 00:01:48,108 Speaker 6: we always try to do. Every decision we make is 35 00:01:48,188 --> 00:01:50,308 Speaker 6: based on this idea, is this the best thing for 36 00:01:50,348 --> 00:01:51,508 Speaker 6: the Ravens. 37 00:01:51,588 --> 00:01:55,748 Speaker 2: Very very challenging. Again, I understand. 38 00:01:55,348 --> 00:01:57,588 Speaker 6: How people might, maybe from Afar, would feel that way, 39 00:01:58,268 --> 00:02:03,268 Speaker 6: but nobody is more upset about this than me guided 40 00:02:03,348 --> 00:02:07,668 Speaker 6: by it, actually, and so I regret a big regret 41 00:02:07,748 --> 00:02:07,988 Speaker 6: for me. 42 00:02:08,468 --> 00:02:09,028 Speaker 2: I think our. 43 00:02:08,948 --> 00:02:12,428 Speaker 6: Relationship with agents and with other teams is really really good. 44 00:02:12,828 --> 00:02:15,748 Speaker 6: I think that gms understand the importance of getting as 45 00:02:15,788 --> 00:02:19,348 Speaker 6: much information as possible before making decisions, and I would 46 00:02:19,388 --> 00:02:24,068 Speaker 6: say that most agents would say that myself. George Nick 47 00:02:24,268 --> 00:02:26,868 Speaker 6: mark as Servedo, Ozzy Sashi. 48 00:02:27,308 --> 00:02:28,428 Speaker 2: Everybody that works. 49 00:02:28,188 --> 00:02:30,348 Speaker 6: With agents would say that we're a class organization that 50 00:02:30,388 --> 00:02:33,908 Speaker 6: does business the right way, respectful and willing to get 51 00:02:33,948 --> 00:02:34,588 Speaker 6: deals done. 52 00:02:35,508 --> 00:02:37,348 Speaker 3: All right, for a little bit more on this story, 53 00:02:37,428 --> 00:02:40,468 Speaker 3: we welcome in our NFL network insider Ian Rappaport and 54 00:02:40,668 --> 00:02:42,828 Speaker 3: and I know things have been sort of wild over 55 00:02:42,828 --> 00:02:45,588 Speaker 3: the last couple of days or so. We're obviously from Tacasta, 56 00:02:45,828 --> 00:02:48,748 Speaker 3: Max Crosby back in Vegas. At this point, where do 57 00:02:48,868 --> 00:02:51,268 Speaker 3: things stand after We've been able to digest a little 58 00:02:51,268 --> 00:02:53,868 Speaker 3: bit of Ta Costa's comments, and Crosby obviously has been 59 00:02:53,868 --> 00:02:54,868 Speaker 3: able to sort of settle down. 60 00:02:55,188 --> 00:02:57,828 Speaker 7: Yeah, Crosby has been able to settle down. Took to 61 00:02:57,868 --> 00:03:01,028 Speaker 7: social media this morning or was it late last night 62 00:03:01,108 --> 00:03:04,308 Speaker 7: and said I am a raider, also said run that 63 00:03:04,428 --> 00:03:08,148 Speaker 7: at Bleed. He is moving forward there, It is right there. 64 00:03:08,348 --> 00:03:09,468 Speaker 2: He's such a great tweeter. 65 00:03:10,428 --> 00:03:12,348 Speaker 7: A lot of too many capital letters though, was blue. 66 00:03:12,388 --> 00:03:14,788 Speaker 7: I would say, dial back to the capitol letters more 67 00:03:14,788 --> 00:03:17,748 Speaker 7: Emoji's doing great though. Otherwise Max Crosby, and he certainly is, 68 00:03:17,828 --> 00:03:20,788 Speaker 7: because as soon as that trade did not go down, 69 00:03:20,828 --> 00:03:23,308 Speaker 7: as soon as that trade was scuttled, became clear that 70 00:03:23,388 --> 00:03:25,788 Speaker 7: Max Krasby was all eyes forward and the Las Vegas 71 00:03:25,828 --> 00:03:28,708 Speaker 7: Raiders took that private jet, put his feet up from 72 00:03:28,748 --> 00:03:32,788 Speaker 7: Baltimore to Las Vegas. Was back in the building yesterday morning, 73 00:03:33,228 --> 00:03:35,228 Speaker 7: and that was it. It's focused on rehab, it's focused 74 00:03:35,268 --> 00:03:37,708 Speaker 7: on getting back from a fully tore meniscus, and he 75 00:03:37,788 --> 00:03:40,308 Speaker 7: has in his mind decided that he is a Raider. 76 00:03:40,628 --> 00:03:44,628 Speaker 7: Could this be Fates jumping in and saying Max Crosby 77 00:03:44,668 --> 00:03:46,708 Speaker 7: is not going to finish his career with the Raiders, 78 00:03:46,708 --> 00:03:48,708 Speaker 7: the team that he probably should. 79 00:03:48,068 --> 00:03:48,868 Speaker 2: Have finished his career with. 80 00:03:48,908 --> 00:03:52,708 Speaker 7: Anyway, Possibly things happened for a reason. And look, there's 81 00:03:52,748 --> 00:03:54,948 Speaker 7: a bunch of teams that ended up calling the Raiders 82 00:03:54,948 --> 00:03:56,588 Speaker 7: about Max after the trade. 83 00:03:56,308 --> 00:03:56,988 Speaker 2: Did not go down. 84 00:03:57,348 --> 00:03:59,028 Speaker 7: All we're trying to get a good deal. All we're 85 00:03:59,068 --> 00:04:01,108 Speaker 7: trying to get thirty cents on the dollar. I don't 86 00:04:01,108 --> 00:04:02,708 Speaker 7: get the sense of Raiders would do that. In fact, 87 00:04:02,708 --> 00:04:04,188 Speaker 7: I didn't even think the Raiders were going to trade 88 00:04:04,188 --> 00:04:07,868 Speaker 7: Max Crosby unless until they somehow got two first rounders, 89 00:04:07,988 --> 00:04:09,628 Speaker 7: which only the Ravens offered. 90 00:04:09,788 --> 00:04:11,188 Speaker 2: The Ravens obviously are out. 91 00:04:11,588 --> 00:04:13,828 Speaker 7: They have not only scuttled as tray, but they've also 92 00:04:13,868 --> 00:04:17,308 Speaker 7: spent the money on Trey Hendrickson yesterday, So is there 93 00:04:17,348 --> 00:04:20,028 Speaker 7: a chance another team jumps back in in June or 94 00:04:20,188 --> 00:04:22,868 Speaker 7: July or August or whatever, max Crosby is fully healthy. 95 00:04:23,188 --> 00:04:24,828 Speaker 2: There is a chance there is. 96 00:04:25,148 --> 00:04:27,708 Speaker 7: But as of right now, Crosby is going to be 97 00:04:27,788 --> 00:04:30,028 Speaker 7: a member of the Raiders, and he now joins a 98 00:04:30,068 --> 00:04:32,468 Speaker 7: team that has spent two hundred and eighty million dollars 99 00:04:32,508 --> 00:04:35,468 Speaker 7: in free agency and is much much better than the 100 00:04:35,548 --> 00:04:37,028 Speaker 7: team than TENI left. 101 00:04:37,508 --> 00:04:39,028 Speaker 3: I look, at the end of the day, we talk 102 00:04:39,068 --> 00:04:41,508 Speaker 3: about free agency and we ask ourselves, when it's all 103 00:04:41,708 --> 00:04:43,668 Speaker 3: said and done, are you a better football team? And 104 00:04:43,988 --> 00:04:46,308 Speaker 3: the Raiders are a better football team with Max Crosby 105 00:04:46,548 --> 00:04:48,228 Speaker 3: out on that football field. And I know we got 106 00:04:48,228 --> 00:04:50,228 Speaker 3: more from you coming up in just a bit. But 107 00:04:50,668 --> 00:04:52,188 Speaker 3: there's a lot of tentacles to this story, and we 108 00:04:52,228 --> 00:04:55,388 Speaker 3: continue to analyze them here on NFL Network. Mike Gee, 109 00:04:55,428 --> 00:04:57,628 Speaker 3: I know, from da Costa's standpoint, you heard some of 110 00:04:57,628 --> 00:04:59,708 Speaker 3: his comments. We know what the reaction has been from 111 00:04:59,708 --> 00:05:02,068 Speaker 3: the NFL world. But as you sort of digest what 112 00:05:02,108 --> 00:05:04,348 Speaker 3: you watched yesterday, and I know you guys had because 113 00:05:04,508 --> 00:05:07,788 Speaker 3: his comments on Insiders on NFL Network yesterday, how do 114 00:05:07,908 --> 00:05:10,668 Speaker 3: you unpack what you actually heard from him? 115 00:05:10,748 --> 00:05:14,268 Speaker 8: I would combine that with the conversations that I've had 116 00:05:14,308 --> 00:05:17,548 Speaker 8: with folks in Baltimore over the last two days, and 117 00:05:18,908 --> 00:05:22,228 Speaker 8: I know how it looked, right, And I think people said, Wow, 118 00:05:22,268 --> 00:05:24,148 Speaker 8: they gave up two first round picks for a guy 119 00:05:24,188 --> 00:05:27,268 Speaker 8: who's in the middle of his prime, right, Like, you're 120 00:05:27,308 --> 00:05:30,028 Speaker 8: not getting ten years of Max Crosby. You're probably getting 121 00:05:30,148 --> 00:05:32,588 Speaker 8: let's say five good years if he's healthy. Right, let's 122 00:05:32,588 --> 00:05:35,028 Speaker 8: think about it in those terms. And they're saying, well, 123 00:05:35,068 --> 00:05:37,428 Speaker 8: the Ravens over the course of the next three days 124 00:05:37,428 --> 00:05:37,828 Speaker 8: were like. 125 00:05:38,668 --> 00:05:41,508 Speaker 9: Geez, we gave up too much, you know what, fail 126 00:05:41,588 --> 00:05:43,868 Speaker 9: him on the physical. Let's get out of this deal, right. 127 00:05:44,948 --> 00:05:46,708 Speaker 8: I understand that a lot of people think that that's 128 00:05:46,748 --> 00:05:50,588 Speaker 8: how it looks. I truly, honestly do not believe that 129 00:05:50,708 --> 00:05:52,828 Speaker 8: based on the conversation I've had, based on what Eric 130 00:05:52,868 --> 00:05:56,348 Speaker 8: Tacosta said yesterday, Because see all this right. 131 00:05:56,188 --> 00:06:00,308 Speaker 9: Here, they wanted all this. They wanted Max Crosby. 132 00:06:00,748 --> 00:06:03,188 Speaker 8: They wanted them wrecking things in the backfield and blowing 133 00:06:03,268 --> 00:06:06,308 Speaker 8: up running plays and getting in the quarterback's lapse before 134 00:06:06,308 --> 00:06:08,468 Speaker 8: they're at the top of their droughts. And they were 135 00:06:08,508 --> 00:06:10,948 Speaker 8: really disappointed that they didn't get that. In the end, 136 00:06:11,748 --> 00:06:14,588 Speaker 8: it was a question of in their mind, how the 137 00:06:14,668 --> 00:06:17,668 Speaker 8: knee looked, what it was going to look like moving forward, 138 00:06:17,988 --> 00:06:20,788 Speaker 8: how that surgery would hold up. When you're talking about cartilage, 139 00:06:20,828 --> 00:06:23,308 Speaker 8: you got the potential for it to wear down over time. 140 00:06:23,788 --> 00:06:26,268 Speaker 8: The Ravens and their doctors and the doctors they consulted, 141 00:06:26,708 --> 00:06:28,628 Speaker 8: and the conversation that they had felt like in the 142 00:06:28,748 --> 00:06:30,988 Speaker 8: end it wasn't going to hold up. They made a 143 00:06:31,028 --> 00:06:35,388 Speaker 8: subjective decision. Let's be clear, a subjective decision. It's not objective. 144 00:06:35,828 --> 00:06:37,828 Speaker 8: It's not past fail in the way that we say 145 00:06:38,108 --> 00:06:40,228 Speaker 8: past the physical or a failed the physical. They made 146 00:06:40,268 --> 00:06:42,428 Speaker 8: that subjective call, and in the end they didn't get 147 00:06:42,428 --> 00:06:44,308 Speaker 8: the guy that they would like to have had in 148 00:06:44,388 --> 00:06:46,988 Speaker 8: the backfield, ruining things for opposing offense, and for that 149 00:06:47,028 --> 00:06:47,788 Speaker 8: they're disappointed. 150 00:06:51,988 --> 00:06:57,148 Speaker 10: Like, gee, I appreciate your optimism, but you're from. 151 00:06:56,948 --> 00:06:58,708 Speaker 2: The NFL world. 152 00:06:58,868 --> 00:07:03,868 Speaker 10: Okay, I'm from the WWE world. So let me offer 153 00:07:04,468 --> 00:07:10,388 Speaker 10: a bit of skepticism here. What did the Ravens think 154 00:07:10,508 --> 00:07:14,588 Speaker 10: they were going to see that they didn't see in 155 00:07:14,628 --> 00:07:19,068 Speaker 10: the physical I have had my meniscus operated on both 156 00:07:19,108 --> 00:07:21,268 Speaker 10: of them. As a matter of fact, this is a 157 00:07:21,388 --> 00:07:23,508 Speaker 10: fairly routine operation. 158 00:07:23,868 --> 00:07:25,988 Speaker 2: Like it's not rocket science. 159 00:07:26,028 --> 00:07:28,428 Speaker 10: I mean, look, it's a scientific marvel, no doubt about it. 160 00:07:28,468 --> 00:07:32,028 Speaker 10: But it's not a crazy experimental surgery. You go in, 161 00:07:32,348 --> 00:07:35,188 Speaker 10: you repair the meniscus, you put it in place, and 162 00:07:35,228 --> 00:07:38,868 Speaker 10: then you let it heal. Max Crosby is a super athlete. 163 00:07:38,948 --> 00:07:41,708 Speaker 10: He's got people on his team to tell him exactly 164 00:07:41,748 --> 00:07:44,908 Speaker 10: what to do, exactly how to rehab. So what exactly 165 00:07:45,508 --> 00:07:50,028 Speaker 10: were your expectations versus the reality of what you saw 166 00:07:50,788 --> 00:07:53,468 Speaker 10: as a team that was evaluating someone coming off of 167 00:07:53,548 --> 00:07:57,348 Speaker 10: meniscal surgery. I don't really understand. So to me, there's 168 00:07:57,388 --> 00:08:02,108 Speaker 10: something very fishy about this entire thing. I know we 169 00:08:02,148 --> 00:08:03,228 Speaker 10: want to be on the up and up, and I 170 00:08:03,308 --> 00:08:05,748 Speaker 10: know DeCosta says, yeah, we're a great organization. 171 00:08:05,828 --> 00:08:07,908 Speaker 2: We do things the right way. Maybe do. 172 00:08:08,268 --> 00:08:11,148 Speaker 10: But something happened here the other side of this, and 173 00:08:11,188 --> 00:08:14,308 Speaker 10: this just may bee me. Maybe me as except rollin 174 00:08:14,468 --> 00:08:17,508 Speaker 10: someone who knows a thing or two about faking injuries. 175 00:08:18,228 --> 00:08:21,908 Speaker 10: Maybe Max, Maybe Max, and let me just throw this 176 00:08:21,988 --> 00:08:24,508 Speaker 10: into the wind. Maybe Max says, you know what. 177 00:08:24,828 --> 00:08:26,388 Speaker 2: I don't want to go playing Baltimore. 178 00:08:27,308 --> 00:08:30,188 Speaker 10: Maybe I'll just make this seem like I'm a little 179 00:08:30,188 --> 00:08:31,548 Speaker 10: worse off than I actually am. 180 00:08:31,748 --> 00:08:32,308 Speaker 2: I don't know. 181 00:08:32,508 --> 00:08:35,668 Speaker 10: I just want to throw that into the ether, commenda. 182 00:08:36,028 --> 00:08:40,068 Speaker 10: Maybe there's something something's amiss. This is not just all 183 00:08:40,148 --> 00:08:41,668 Speaker 10: up and up all we got there. We saw the 184 00:08:41,708 --> 00:08:44,028 Speaker 10: physical and it just wasn't good, and so we're gonna 185 00:08:44,028 --> 00:08:46,828 Speaker 10: fail and and get out of here. Something something is 186 00:08:46,868 --> 00:08:49,708 Speaker 10: not right. Yes, play that violin. Tell me why you're 187 00:08:49,708 --> 00:08:50,628 Speaker 10: playing that violin? 188 00:08:50,708 --> 00:08:52,148 Speaker 2: Because something right. 189 00:08:53,028 --> 00:08:56,268 Speaker 5: Playing the saddest symphony I possibly can for the Baltimore 190 00:08:56,348 --> 00:08:58,348 Speaker 5: Ravens fans, and that where the CASA answer. 191 00:08:58,988 --> 00:09:02,348 Speaker 4: I'm with Seth on this one. I'm just not buying it. 192 00:09:02,548 --> 00:09:04,268 Speaker 5: Like, what did you think you thought you were gonna 193 00:09:04,268 --> 00:09:06,788 Speaker 5: get ten more years out of Max Crosby. It's not 194 00:09:06,868 --> 00:09:08,308 Speaker 5: like you were going to offer him a ten year 195 00:09:08,388 --> 00:09:11,308 Speaker 5: contract and you're worried about him being able to fulfill 196 00:09:11,388 --> 00:09:13,348 Speaker 5: all of those years. I think you're going to offer 197 00:09:13,428 --> 00:09:15,988 Speaker 5: him a three or four year contract. You're really telling 198 00:09:16,028 --> 00:09:18,868 Speaker 5: me that, because of a meniscus tear and a meniscus 199 00:09:18,948 --> 00:09:21,188 Speaker 5: repair surgery, that you don't think he's gonna be able 200 00:09:21,188 --> 00:09:21,828 Speaker 5: to fulfill a. 201 00:09:21,788 --> 00:09:23,268 Speaker 4: Three or four year contract. 202 00:09:23,628 --> 00:09:26,228 Speaker 5: I'm not buying that whatsoever for a guy who has 203 00:09:26,308 --> 00:09:28,668 Speaker 5: not had injury concerns, for a guy who we have 204 00:09:28,788 --> 00:09:31,628 Speaker 5: not labeled as being injury prone for a guy who 205 00:09:31,908 --> 00:09:36,228 Speaker 5: literally needs to be pulled off of the field by coaches, trainers, 206 00:09:36,228 --> 00:09:38,428 Speaker 5: and front office because he will put his body through 207 00:09:38,468 --> 00:09:40,388 Speaker 5: whatever for his organization. 208 00:09:40,708 --> 00:09:42,228 Speaker 4: I absolutely refuse to. 209 00:09:42,228 --> 00:09:44,708 Speaker 5: Believe that they just didn't know and they didn't like 210 00:09:44,748 --> 00:09:45,588 Speaker 5: the physical that much. 211 00:09:45,868 --> 00:09:48,668 Speaker 4: I'm not buying it whatsoever. And then you want to 212 00:09:48,708 --> 00:09:49,028 Speaker 4: go and. 213 00:09:48,988 --> 00:09:51,148 Speaker 5: Say that all the original plan was to try to 214 00:09:51,188 --> 00:09:54,068 Speaker 5: get both Hendrickson and Max Crosby. I don't remember the 215 00:09:54,148 --> 00:09:57,228 Speaker 5: last time we saw two star pass rushers get signed 216 00:09:57,268 --> 00:09:59,828 Speaker 5: to the same team in the same free agencycle I 217 00:09:59,828 --> 00:10:02,828 Speaker 5: don't even remember, don't. I'm not buying it at all. 218 00:10:03,268 --> 00:10:04,788 Speaker 8: I'm glad you brought that up, because I did want 219 00:10:04,788 --> 00:10:07,748 Speaker 8: to address that, because we talked for a couple of 220 00:10:07,828 --> 00:10:10,788 Speaker 8: days about how Trey Hendrickson's market wasn't what he thought 221 00:10:10,868 --> 00:10:12,668 Speaker 8: or hoped it was going to be. You know, he 222 00:10:13,508 --> 00:10:15,708 Speaker 8: played for thirty million last year, so in his head 223 00:10:15,908 --> 00:10:19,348 Speaker 8: he's thinking, we're somewhere into the thirties when it comes 224 00:10:19,348 --> 00:10:20,788 Speaker 8: to the contract that I'm going to get on a 225 00:10:20,868 --> 00:10:24,588 Speaker 8: multi year deal. It was in the low twenties and 226 00:10:24,628 --> 00:10:27,028 Speaker 8: now it ended in the high twenties, which tells you 227 00:10:27,068 --> 00:10:29,188 Speaker 8: by the way that when the Max Crosby trade fell apart, 228 00:10:29,228 --> 00:10:33,268 Speaker 8: the raven says, okay, foot of the gas, foot to 229 00:10:33,308 --> 00:10:35,308 Speaker 8: the floor. We got to get this thing done. And 230 00:10:35,348 --> 00:10:37,028 Speaker 8: so now it got up to a number close enough 231 00:10:37,028 --> 00:10:39,388 Speaker 8: that everything got done, and with incentives, it gets up 232 00:10:39,388 --> 00:10:42,068 Speaker 8: to thirty million dollars. In the Ravens mind, I think 233 00:10:42,108 --> 00:10:44,668 Speaker 8: they get Max Crosby in that trade. He's making in 234 00:10:44,668 --> 00:10:46,948 Speaker 8: the high twenties on average of what they're going to pay, 235 00:10:47,028 --> 00:10:48,908 Speaker 8: and then we can get Hendricks in the low twenties 236 00:10:48,948 --> 00:10:51,268 Speaker 8: because again his market wasn't what he thought it was. 237 00:10:51,468 --> 00:10:53,348 Speaker 9: So come join our defense. 238 00:10:53,588 --> 00:10:57,028 Speaker 8: You can come play with Bookend, incredible defensive ends. 239 00:10:57,188 --> 00:10:59,308 Speaker 9: That was the thought in their mind. 240 00:10:59,348 --> 00:11:01,428 Speaker 8: But because the trade fell through, now all of a 241 00:11:01,468 --> 00:11:03,828 Speaker 8: sudden they give him the numbers that gets it done. 242 00:11:03,708 --> 00:11:04,988 Speaker 9: And then Hendricks goes there. 243 00:11:05,628 --> 00:11:07,748 Speaker 8: I think if this offer had been on the table 244 00:11:07,748 --> 00:11:08,588 Speaker 8: from the start. 245 00:11:08,348 --> 00:11:08,988 Speaker 9: It gets done. 246 00:11:09,068 --> 00:11:10,788 Speaker 8: He ain't crossed me or together because he passed the 247 00:11:10,788 --> 00:11:13,228 Speaker 8: physical It didn't work out ideally, but in the end 248 00:11:13,268 --> 00:11:14,428 Speaker 8: they wind up getting one of the two. 249 00:11:14,508 --> 00:11:16,228 Speaker 3: You know, Mike, I actually love that context there, and 250 00:11:16,228 --> 00:11:17,948 Speaker 3: I actually want to circle back on your comments Jason, 251 00:11:17,948 --> 00:11:19,668 Speaker 3: because you're right off the top of the Dome. I 252 00:11:19,668 --> 00:11:22,308 Speaker 3: don't know when you talk about two premier pass rushers 253 00:11:22,348 --> 00:11:24,708 Speaker 3: signing in one free agency cycle for one team. But 254 00:11:24,748 --> 00:11:27,348 Speaker 3: at the same time, I would argue Baltimore's identity is 255 00:11:27,348 --> 00:11:29,868 Speaker 3: getting after the quarterback, what they do defensively, and they 256 00:11:29,908 --> 00:11:32,268 Speaker 3: were a shell of themselves a season ago. Mattam Bik 257 00:11:32,388 --> 00:11:34,468 Speaker 3: who was a monster two years ago, I don't even 258 00:11:34,468 --> 00:11:36,108 Speaker 3: know if he sees the football field, there's probably some 259 00:11:36,148 --> 00:11:38,788 Speaker 3: real concerns. So there's a part of me, Jason that says, hey, 260 00:11:38,868 --> 00:11:42,108 Speaker 3: maybe this team just said we were so in I 261 00:11:42,108 --> 00:11:43,468 Speaker 3: don't want to say a nap. I don't know how 262 00:11:43,468 --> 00:11:45,868 Speaker 3: well subscribe it based off of their standards. We had 263 00:11:45,908 --> 00:11:46,908 Speaker 3: to do something desperate. 264 00:11:47,508 --> 00:11:49,548 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I hear that, you know, I hear that, 265 00:11:49,588 --> 00:11:52,588 Speaker 5: And I felt like as a defense, they had gotten 266 00:11:52,628 --> 00:11:55,428 Speaker 5: away from Baltimore Ravens football. 267 00:11:55,548 --> 00:11:56,308 Speaker 4: Defensively. 268 00:11:56,348 --> 00:12:00,788 Speaker 5: I thought some players regressed Humphreys Rokwan like it didn't 269 00:12:00,828 --> 00:12:03,028 Speaker 5: look the same, not the same style of aggression, not 270 00:12:03,068 --> 00:12:06,308 Speaker 5: the same style of physical toughness that we're so used 271 00:12:06,308 --> 00:12:08,948 Speaker 5: to saying from Baltimore for so many years, and the 272 00:12:08,988 --> 00:12:11,708 Speaker 5: standard and the culture, and I think bringing in two 273 00:12:11,748 --> 00:12:13,828 Speaker 5: guys like that, yeah, I would restore that. 274 00:12:14,708 --> 00:12:18,188 Speaker 4: I'm just not buying it. I'm not buying that. 275 00:12:18,148 --> 00:12:19,508 Speaker 5: It would have been able to get done. I'm not 276 00:12:19,548 --> 00:12:22,588 Speaker 5: buying that the money was there and both would have agreed. 277 00:12:22,748 --> 00:12:23,868 Speaker 5: I'm just not buying all of it. 278 00:12:23,908 --> 00:12:26,268 Speaker 3: I'm not It's gonna be interesting to sort of see 279 00:12:26,268 --> 00:12:28,108 Speaker 3: how this thing unfolds over the next couple of weeks 280 00:12:28,188 --> 00:12:31,268 Speaker 3: or so. We're not done chewing on this topic because 281 00:12:31,668 --> 00:12:34,988 Speaker 3: Crosby heading back, he saw it on social media. Going 282 00:12:35,028 --> 00:12:37,028 Speaker 3: back to the Raiders, they are still a better football 283 00:12:37,028 --> 00:12:38,788 Speaker 3: team with him on the field. Hopefully he is one 284 00:12:38,868 --> 00:12:45,028 Speaker 3: hundred percent healthy. All right, back here on Good Morning Football, 285 00:12:45,068 --> 00:12:48,348 Speaker 3: we bring back our NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport, and Ian, 286 00:12:48,748 --> 00:12:50,508 Speaker 3: we know the Colts had some good news, right they 287 00:12:50,548 --> 00:12:52,948 Speaker 3: bring back their quarterback. The carousel, though, continues to spend 288 00:12:52,948 --> 00:12:55,668 Speaker 3: because we still don't know about Kyler Murray and where 289 00:12:55,708 --> 00:12:58,388 Speaker 3: he ends up. Just level set and reset what's happening 290 00:12:58,468 --> 00:12:59,628 Speaker 3: with some of the signal callers. 291 00:12:59,788 --> 00:13:01,228 Speaker 2: We'll start with the Indianapolis Colts. 292 00:13:01,228 --> 00:13:03,948 Speaker 7: They had a very big wig obviously started with Alec 293 00:13:04,028 --> 00:13:07,028 Speaker 7: Peers and the four year, one hundred and fourteen million 294 00:13:07,108 --> 00:13:10,708 Speaker 7: dollar contract extension when he signed believing that Daniel Jones 295 00:13:11,108 --> 00:13:13,708 Speaker 7: would be his quarterback at that point, though it wasn't 296 00:13:13,708 --> 00:13:16,868 Speaker 7: fully clear Jones was on the transition tag, wanted a deal, 297 00:13:17,188 --> 00:13:19,588 Speaker 7: wanted security with the Indianapolis coach, and over the last 298 00:13:19,628 --> 00:13:24,228 Speaker 7: several days that is exactly what they did, locking him 299 00:13:24,228 --> 00:13:26,828 Speaker 7: in on a two year deal worth up to one 300 00:13:26,868 --> 00:13:29,188 Speaker 7: hundred million dollars, recording to me and College Tom Keeliser 301 00:13:29,348 --> 00:13:32,548 Speaker 7: eighty eight million dollars at its base fifty million dollars 302 00:13:32,588 --> 00:13:36,108 Speaker 7: in year one. Had Daniel Jones played on the transition tag, 303 00:13:36,388 --> 00:13:38,988 Speaker 7: he would have made thirty eight million. Now he gets 304 00:13:39,068 --> 00:13:42,708 Speaker 7: fifty an excellent deal for Daniel Jones, plus that extra 305 00:13:42,788 --> 00:13:44,948 Speaker 7: year of securityal though really if he goes out and 306 00:13:44,948 --> 00:13:49,428 Speaker 7: plays well, probably getting another contract extension after next year anyway. 307 00:13:49,788 --> 00:13:52,308 Speaker 7: And then there is Kyler Murray, the top free agent 308 00:13:52,348 --> 00:13:55,068 Speaker 7: available and certainly the top quarterback available. 309 00:13:55,068 --> 00:13:56,348 Speaker 9: He was officially released. 310 00:13:56,028 --> 00:13:58,868 Speaker 7: For the Arizona Cardinals yesterday, and because they are paying 311 00:13:58,868 --> 00:14:01,108 Speaker 7: more than thirty eight million dollars of a salary, fully 312 00:14:01,108 --> 00:14:03,748 Speaker 7: guaranteed the team he is going to join is going 313 00:14:03,788 --> 00:14:06,228 Speaker 7: to pay for him him for the minimum his contract 314 00:14:06,228 --> 00:14:08,948 Speaker 7: has offsets. Basically, what that means is the original team 315 00:14:08,988 --> 00:14:12,228 Speaker 7: pays everything except for as little as possible. He is 316 00:14:12,268 --> 00:14:14,428 Speaker 7: going to visit the Minnesota Vikings today. 317 00:14:14,468 --> 00:14:17,068 Speaker 2: Now, we spent the last twelve hours or so talking 318 00:14:17,068 --> 00:14:18,948 Speaker 2: to different teams, talking to decision. 319 00:14:18,548 --> 00:14:22,228 Speaker 7: Makers, getting ahead of the twenty twenty seven free agency process. 320 00:14:22,308 --> 00:14:23,908 Speaker 7: Has never been a free agent before. It seemed like 321 00:14:23,948 --> 00:14:26,028 Speaker 7: he wanted to talk to teams and kind of begin 322 00:14:26,108 --> 00:14:27,708 Speaker 7: all that he is going to be in the building 323 00:14:27,748 --> 00:14:31,068 Speaker 7: for the Minnesota Vikings today. There's a chance, a good 324 00:14:31,148 --> 00:14:33,548 Speaker 7: chance that a deal comes together very quickly and we 325 00:14:33,628 --> 00:14:36,508 Speaker 7: may see Kyler Murray be the next quarterback of the 326 00:14:36,508 --> 00:14:40,028 Speaker 7: Minnesota Vikings. Add to that quarterback room to compete with 327 00:14:40,148 --> 00:14:41,108 Speaker 7: JJ McCarthy. 328 00:14:41,228 --> 00:14:43,828 Speaker 3: It's a fascinating turn of events. Say you think about Minnesota, 329 00:14:43,828 --> 00:14:46,948 Speaker 3: I'd also throw into the mix. It's part also trying 330 00:14:46,948 --> 00:14:49,388 Speaker 3: to figure out Aaron Rodgers and no setus I'strongo fans 331 00:14:49,388 --> 00:14:51,508 Speaker 3: on that still to come here on Good Morning Football. 332 00:14:51,508 --> 00:14:53,628 Speaker 3: But Ian, great stuff by you, as always. It time 333 00:14:53,708 --> 00:14:56,548 Speaker 3: for a little buying or keep trying. Now, Mike ge 334 00:14:56,588 --> 00:14:58,788 Speaker 3: we heard what Ian had to say on Wednesday. You 335 00:14:58,868 --> 00:15:01,228 Speaker 3: actually reported Kyler is not going to be annoyed at 336 00:15:01,228 --> 00:15:03,668 Speaker 3: that starter. He made reference to the fact that this 337 00:15:03,748 --> 00:15:07,188 Speaker 3: is a situation where he could be competing for a job. 338 00:15:07,268 --> 00:15:08,948 Speaker 3: Is that what the reality is going to be when 339 00:15:08,988 --> 00:15:10,308 Speaker 3: you bring in a guy like Kyler Murray. 340 00:15:10,468 --> 00:15:12,548 Speaker 8: I got to buy my own report, right, I can't 341 00:15:12,588 --> 00:15:14,428 Speaker 8: be like I keep trying a gut and know what 342 00:15:14,468 --> 00:15:15,228 Speaker 8: he's talking about. 343 00:15:15,268 --> 00:15:17,308 Speaker 9: So yes, I am buying it. 344 00:15:17,788 --> 00:15:20,988 Speaker 8: From my understanding, this is going to be something where 345 00:15:21,708 --> 00:15:24,028 Speaker 8: they want it to be good for the short term 346 00:15:24,028 --> 00:15:26,348 Speaker 8: and also the long term for the Vikings. 347 00:15:26,548 --> 00:15:30,228 Speaker 9: And by that I mean and go back to last year, right, Like. 348 00:15:30,268 --> 00:15:32,548 Speaker 8: We kept talking about the Vikings should bring in a 349 00:15:32,588 --> 00:15:33,868 Speaker 8: proven veteran and they did. 350 00:15:34,188 --> 00:15:36,908 Speaker 9: They had a clear runway once they lost Sam Donald 351 00:15:36,948 --> 00:15:37,668 Speaker 9: to the Seahawks. 352 00:15:38,188 --> 00:15:41,788 Speaker 8: For JJ McCarthy didn't want anybody looking over his shoulder 353 00:15:41,868 --> 00:15:43,548 Speaker 8: or in his ear like we wanted to give him 354 00:15:43,588 --> 00:15:46,508 Speaker 8: the chance to understand that he's the future of the franchise. 355 00:15:46,668 --> 00:15:47,988 Speaker 9: This is gonna be a little different though. 356 00:15:48,068 --> 00:15:49,508 Speaker 8: This is going to be you got to beat this 357 00:15:49,548 --> 00:15:53,588 Speaker 8: guy out, and in their minds, Kyler Murray could go 358 00:15:53,628 --> 00:15:57,468 Speaker 8: in play extremely well, sort of like Sam Donald did 359 00:15:57,548 --> 00:16:01,148 Speaker 8: for the Vikings and reset himself up as a proven 360 00:16:01,268 --> 00:16:03,228 Speaker 8: long term starter for a team, whether it's the Vikings 361 00:16:03,268 --> 00:16:06,468 Speaker 8: or somebody else. And maybe that's their guy moving forward, 362 00:16:06,628 --> 00:16:11,828 Speaker 8: or maybe McCarthy responds, still got some growing up to do, 363 00:16:12,268 --> 00:16:15,068 Speaker 8: still got some coming along to do, and maybe he 364 00:16:15,108 --> 00:16:16,908 Speaker 8: does it because of the challenge. So I am buying 365 00:16:16,948 --> 00:16:18,988 Speaker 8: that it will be a quarterback competition and that we 366 00:16:19,028 --> 00:16:21,548 Speaker 8: will be covering the Vikings an insight training camp saying, Hey, 367 00:16:21,668 --> 00:16:24,468 Speaker 8: what's the latest in the competition competition between Kyler Murray 368 00:16:24,468 --> 00:16:25,388 Speaker 8: and JJ McCarthy. 369 00:16:25,748 --> 00:16:27,388 Speaker 10: Mike Ge, I'm with you on this one. I was 370 00:16:27,428 --> 00:16:29,428 Speaker 10: against you on the Max Crosby thing. I still think 371 00:16:29,468 --> 00:16:32,068 Speaker 10: it's very efficiing, But this one, I'm buying this one. 372 00:16:32,068 --> 00:16:35,428 Speaker 10: This is a quarterback competition, no doubt about it, because 373 00:16:35,548 --> 00:16:39,428 Speaker 10: tell me what has either quarterback done, Kyler Murray or 374 00:16:39,508 --> 00:16:42,428 Speaker 10: JJ McCarthy. What have they done to prove that they 375 00:16:42,508 --> 00:16:45,988 Speaker 10: are the starters? I mean JJ McCarthy obviously rookie year, 376 00:16:46,028 --> 00:16:47,708 Speaker 10: he's heard, he's out the whole season. He came back. 377 00:16:47,988 --> 00:16:50,188 Speaker 10: Look at this what is it? Look at these throws? 378 00:16:50,268 --> 00:16:53,148 Speaker 10: What are we talking about here? This guy cannot be 379 00:16:53,228 --> 00:16:56,868 Speaker 10: your proven starter. There's no chance that after the body 380 00:16:56,908 --> 00:16:59,348 Speaker 10: of work the JJ McCarthy put out the last season 381 00:16:59,388 --> 00:17:02,348 Speaker 10: in Minnesota, everybody wants him to be the next quarterback, 382 00:17:02,348 --> 00:17:04,948 Speaker 10: then the next franchise quarterback for Minnesota. If you're a fan, 383 00:17:05,148 --> 00:17:07,108 Speaker 10: you want to and you saw glimpses of it, I'm 384 00:17:07,108 --> 00:17:07,668 Speaker 10: not gonna lie. 385 00:17:07,668 --> 00:17:10,148 Speaker 2: You saw glimpses of it. JJ McCarthy looked. 386 00:17:09,988 --> 00:17:12,348 Speaker 10: Like, Okay, he's got the skills, right, he can, he can, 387 00:17:12,508 --> 00:17:13,908 Speaker 10: he can, especially in crunch time. 388 00:17:13,948 --> 00:17:15,148 Speaker 2: Maybe he can get it done. 389 00:17:15,228 --> 00:17:16,748 Speaker 10: But at the end of the day, I go, what 390 00:17:16,908 --> 00:17:19,348 Speaker 10: has he done to show me that he is absolutely 391 00:17:19,388 --> 00:17:21,628 Speaker 10: one hundred percent the quarterback of the future. He had 392 00:17:21,708 --> 00:17:24,108 Speaker 10: every opportunity last year to get it done. He's got 393 00:17:24,468 --> 00:17:27,228 Speaker 10: maybe the best wide receiver in all the football and 394 00:17:27,388 --> 00:17:29,948 Speaker 10: justin Jefferson they couldn't get on the same page. So 395 00:17:30,068 --> 00:17:32,508 Speaker 10: you and he's got a quarterback guru and Koc there. 396 00:17:32,668 --> 00:17:34,468 Speaker 10: You tell me what has he done? 397 00:17:34,588 --> 00:17:35,508 Speaker 2: Kyler? Same thing? 398 00:17:35,548 --> 00:17:37,348 Speaker 10: I go, Okay, you look at his body, you work 399 00:17:37,348 --> 00:17:40,748 Speaker 10: in Arizona. What has he done to show me coming 400 00:17:40,748 --> 00:17:42,188 Speaker 10: in that this is going to be your guy? 401 00:17:42,388 --> 00:17:43,348 Speaker 2: These guys you've got it. 402 00:17:43,388 --> 00:17:45,948 Speaker 10: You've got to put them both in there, spin them around, 403 00:17:47,188 --> 00:17:48,348 Speaker 10: spit one out, and let's. 404 00:17:48,148 --> 00:17:48,948 Speaker 2: See who we're going with. 405 00:17:49,028 --> 00:17:50,788 Speaker 10: That's how I feel about it. I'm buying, baby, What 406 00:17:50,868 --> 00:17:51,148 Speaker 10: about you? 407 00:17:51,228 --> 00:17:51,588 Speaker 2: Covinda. 408 00:17:51,948 --> 00:17:55,308 Speaker 5: I'm also buying it, and I'm buying it because I 409 00:17:55,348 --> 00:17:58,308 Speaker 5: think these are two quarterbacks who are at a fork 410 00:17:58,468 --> 00:18:01,428 Speaker 5: in the road for both of their careers. I was 411 00:18:01,468 --> 00:18:04,028 Speaker 5: never very high on JJ McCarthy coming out of college. 412 00:18:04,468 --> 00:18:06,308 Speaker 5: See some of those stat lines. You know, he was 413 00:18:06,348 --> 00:18:08,468 Speaker 5: carried like a backpack with that run game in Michigan. 414 00:18:08,668 --> 00:18:09,308 Speaker 4: And I'm not just. 415 00:18:09,268 --> 00:18:10,908 Speaker 5: Saying that because I'm a Penn State guy and I 416 00:18:10,908 --> 00:18:14,588 Speaker 5: absolutely hate the University of Michigan, but because it's the truth. 417 00:18:14,788 --> 00:18:17,748 Speaker 5: Ten passes some games, eleven passes some games. I just 418 00:18:17,788 --> 00:18:20,508 Speaker 5: didn't feel like I saw enough output from j J 419 00:18:20,668 --> 00:18:23,628 Speaker 5: McCarthy to warrant franchise quarterback coming out of college. 420 00:18:23,668 --> 00:18:24,988 Speaker 4: And now you've seen in the. 421 00:18:25,028 --> 00:18:28,028 Speaker 5: NFL, and he struggled pretty early. Obviously, he had an injury, 422 00:18:28,068 --> 00:18:30,508 Speaker 5: did not get a true rookie year, and then got 423 00:18:30,548 --> 00:18:33,308 Speaker 5: tossed right into the fire that following year and was 424 00:18:33,348 --> 00:18:35,308 Speaker 5: not able to perform very well. And then you look 425 00:18:35,348 --> 00:18:38,028 Speaker 5: at a guy like Kyler Murray who's uber talented, but 426 00:18:38,268 --> 00:18:40,308 Speaker 5: just based on specs, this is a guy who's listed 427 00:18:40,348 --> 00:18:42,508 Speaker 5: at five point ten, one hundred and ninety five, probably 428 00:18:42,508 --> 00:18:44,908 Speaker 5: closer to five to eight if we're being completely honest. 429 00:18:45,148 --> 00:18:48,148 Speaker 5: But look, twenty thousand passing yards, three thousand rushing yards, 430 00:18:48,188 --> 00:18:52,228 Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty three touchdowns over seven seasons. Got talent, 431 00:18:52,308 --> 00:18:55,148 Speaker 5: got leake talent, got the impossible angles and stuff. 432 00:18:55,308 --> 00:18:56,508 Speaker 4: But is it winning football? 433 00:18:56,708 --> 00:19:00,148 Speaker 5: Is it a play style that can translate into winning football? 434 00:19:00,148 --> 00:19:02,588 Speaker 5: That's the real question With Kyler Murray. There are gonna 435 00:19:02,588 --> 00:19:05,188 Speaker 5: be teams and organizations who rule him out just based 436 00:19:05,228 --> 00:19:06,788 Speaker 5: off spects and the fact that that's just not the 437 00:19:06,788 --> 00:19:09,148 Speaker 5: type of quarterback that they want to play with. You know, 438 00:19:09,228 --> 00:19:11,948 Speaker 5: he's at a fourth from a standpoint of being a 439 00:19:12,068 --> 00:19:15,828 Speaker 5: journeyman quarterback or continuing to play meaningful football in his career. 440 00:19:16,148 --> 00:19:16,788 Speaker 2: Both of these. 441 00:19:16,668 --> 00:19:18,148 Speaker 4: Guys will be highly motivated. 442 00:19:18,228 --> 00:19:19,908 Speaker 5: I think it's going to be a great quarterback battle 443 00:19:19,908 --> 00:19:22,148 Speaker 5: to see who's going to win out the situational. 444 00:19:23,108 --> 00:19:25,108 Speaker 3: The situation really does matter when we talk about the 445 00:19:25,188 --> 00:19:27,788 Speaker 3: successive quarterbacks. I dick about Kyler Murray where he's been 446 00:19:27,788 --> 00:19:30,428 Speaker 3: at Arizona, multiple head coaches. We talk about a revolving 447 00:19:30,508 --> 00:19:33,028 Speaker 3: during the offensive line, skill position, they try to bolster 448 00:19:33,108 --> 00:19:35,028 Speaker 3: some of those things. I do wonder the fit, and 449 00:19:35,068 --> 00:19:36,948 Speaker 3: to Set's point, it does make sense. He would have 450 00:19:37,028 --> 00:19:39,588 Speaker 3: arguably the best wide receiver in the game and Justin Jefferson. 451 00:19:39,628 --> 00:19:42,868 Speaker 3: But Mike, when I think about the scenario here, you 452 00:19:42,988 --> 00:19:45,988 Speaker 3: tell me in NFL circles, is it from a Pittsburgh 453 00:19:46,068 --> 00:19:48,908 Speaker 3: perspective just wait and see on Aaron Rodgers or are 454 00:19:48,948 --> 00:19:52,108 Speaker 3: their conversations meaningful conversations that you expect to happen with 455 00:19:52,148 --> 00:19:54,588 Speaker 3: regard to Kyler Murray maybe being their starting quarterback. 456 00:19:55,348 --> 00:19:58,508 Speaker 9: It's somewhere in between. The Steelers have. 457 00:20:00,228 --> 00:20:03,028 Speaker 8: Started to look at potential contingency plans because they don't know, 458 00:20:03,108 --> 00:20:05,348 Speaker 8: but they also, you know, Roder wants to come back. 459 00:20:05,388 --> 00:20:08,508 Speaker 8: It seems like that's the opportunity that he has in 460 00:20:08,588 --> 00:20:12,908 Speaker 8: Pittsburgh to reunite with Mike McCarthy and be the guy there. 461 00:20:12,908 --> 00:20:15,748 Speaker 8: And the way that they've approached it, the Steelers have 462 00:20:15,868 --> 00:20:19,788 Speaker 8: I think they're confident that Rogers comes back, just because 463 00:20:19,868 --> 00:20:21,948 Speaker 8: if they weren't, they would have been more active. I 464 00:20:21,948 --> 00:20:26,348 Speaker 8: would have heard them more involved with these conversations with quarterbacks. 465 00:20:26,348 --> 00:20:28,308 Speaker 8: It seems like it's more of a hey, you know, 466 00:20:28,508 --> 00:20:30,388 Speaker 8: where are you now? They're going to have some options 467 00:20:30,388 --> 00:20:32,348 Speaker 8: if you look at the quarterback market, whether it's Kirk 468 00:20:32,388 --> 00:20:35,148 Speaker 8: Cousins or you know, some of these other options that 469 00:20:35,188 --> 00:20:36,068 Speaker 8: are potentially available. 470 00:20:36,108 --> 00:20:37,748 Speaker 9: I talked about Derek Carr yesterday. 471 00:20:37,948 --> 00:20:41,068 Speaker 8: By the way, teams did have conversations internally at least 472 00:20:41,228 --> 00:20:43,268 Speaker 8: about Derek Carr. But the Saints were going to want 473 00:20:43,908 --> 00:20:47,188 Speaker 8: compensation back because they still hold his rights. Whereas for 474 00:20:47,268 --> 00:20:50,548 Speaker 8: Kyler Murray or to a tongue of Iloa or Gino Smith, 475 00:20:50,828 --> 00:20:52,708 Speaker 8: there was no cop Well, Gino there was a trade, 476 00:20:52,708 --> 00:20:55,348 Speaker 8: but the other guys there was no compensation via a trade. 477 00:20:55,548 --> 00:20:57,228 Speaker 8: And the base salary is so low because the other 478 00:20:57,228 --> 00:20:59,828 Speaker 8: teams are picking up the tab there. So the Steelers 479 00:20:59,828 --> 00:21:02,348 Speaker 8: are going to have options moving forward if Rogers doesn't 480 00:21:02,348 --> 00:21:04,508 Speaker 8: come back, but they're not hitting the throttle right now 481 00:21:04,788 --> 00:21:07,188 Speaker 8: with regard to Kyler Murray being their guy. 482 00:21:07,268 --> 00:21:09,268 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, so once again Moron Rodgers coming up 483 00:21:09,308 --> 00:21:11,268 Speaker 3: in just a bit here on Good Morning Football. Meanwhile, 484 00:21:11,268 --> 00:21:13,628 Speaker 3: the Colts, speaking of quarterbacks, they brought back their guy, 485 00:21:13,708 --> 00:21:16,188 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, two year, eighty eight million dollar deal. You 486 00:21:16,228 --> 00:21:18,508 Speaker 3: could push that total up to one hundred million dollars 487 00:21:18,548 --> 00:21:21,068 Speaker 3: based on incentives and at the wide receiver spot. 488 00:21:21,108 --> 00:21:21,588 Speaker 4: I know something. 489 00:21:21,588 --> 00:21:23,828 Speaker 3: There's a lot of cash here. Alex Pierce, who is 490 00:21:23,868 --> 00:21:26,188 Speaker 3: a hot name on the agent market, four year one 491 00:21:26,228 --> 00:21:29,268 Speaker 3: hundred and fourteen million dollar deal. Are you buying what 492 00:21:29,308 --> 00:21:32,548 Speaker 3: the Colts have done? Were we a little sort of 493 00:21:32,548 --> 00:21:34,828 Speaker 3: concern right now based off of Seth what we saw 494 00:21:35,188 --> 00:21:36,428 Speaker 3: that finish at the end of the year. 495 00:21:37,548 --> 00:21:39,988 Speaker 2: I mean, it was a very epic collapse. 496 00:21:40,148 --> 00:21:42,068 Speaker 10: I mean, if you're a Colts fan, you know you 497 00:21:42,148 --> 00:21:45,148 Speaker 10: still have those feelings of what could have been last season. 498 00:21:45,468 --> 00:21:47,228 Speaker 2: Look, I am buying what they've done. 499 00:21:47,388 --> 00:21:50,148 Speaker 10: They locked up their quarterback, their QB one, they locked 500 00:21:50,188 --> 00:21:52,508 Speaker 10: up their wide receiver one. They're in a good position. 501 00:21:52,548 --> 00:21:54,868 Speaker 10: They got Tyler Warren there at tight end. They still 502 00:21:54,868 --> 00:21:57,468 Speaker 10: got Jonathan Taylor, and they got Shane Stike. That offense 503 00:21:57,548 --> 00:22:00,068 Speaker 10: is going to be fine. Look, this team wins the 504 00:22:00,068 --> 00:22:02,268 Speaker 10: AFC South. I'll throw it out there. They win the 505 00:22:02,308 --> 00:22:05,468 Speaker 10: AFC at salve if Daniel Jones doesn't get hurt. I 506 00:22:05,508 --> 00:22:07,068 Speaker 10: know they had a little bit of a rough stretch 507 00:22:07,108 --> 00:22:10,228 Speaker 10: before he went down, but he was kind of holding 508 00:22:10,268 --> 00:22:13,508 Speaker 10: the whole thing together. Remember they finished the season with 509 00:22:13,748 --> 00:22:19,228 Speaker 10: Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers old man Rivers out of retirement. 510 00:22:19,268 --> 00:22:22,108 Speaker 10: Were the only conversation we were having was can this 511 00:22:22,228 --> 00:22:25,948 Speaker 10: guy just win one game with the Colts to get. 512 00:22:25,748 --> 00:22:28,028 Speaker 2: Them into the playoffs. That's where we were at. 513 00:22:28,108 --> 00:22:30,068 Speaker 10: So I mean, if you throw Daniel Jones in there, 514 00:22:30,108 --> 00:22:32,468 Speaker 10: a healthy Daniel Jones at the way he was playing 515 00:22:32,948 --> 00:22:34,748 Speaker 10: for most of the first half of the season, I 516 00:22:34,788 --> 00:22:36,468 Speaker 10: think the Colts win the playoffs and we aren't even 517 00:22:36,508 --> 00:22:38,948 Speaker 10: having this buying to keep trying situations. So I am 518 00:22:38,948 --> 00:22:41,228 Speaker 10: buying what they've done. They made the moves. Kudos to 519 00:22:41,308 --> 00:22:43,468 Speaker 10: Daniel Jones, the guy who's written off in New York 520 00:22:43,668 --> 00:22:47,028 Speaker 10: and has now gotten paid. Man, gotten paid for what 521 00:22:47,188 --> 00:22:49,668 Speaker 10: he's done on the field. That is an awesome story. 522 00:22:49,708 --> 00:22:51,788 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm buying this. I'm buying it. Come in 523 00:22:51,828 --> 00:22:52,348 Speaker 2: then let's go. 524 00:22:52,588 --> 00:22:56,388 Speaker 4: Look, Seth, I love the sentiment. Yeah, Q it sounded good. 525 00:22:56,388 --> 00:22:58,628 Speaker 4: They had the little one year Super Bowl window. 526 00:22:58,708 --> 00:22:59,908 Speaker 9: Man, it was one moment. 527 00:23:00,068 --> 00:23:04,188 Speaker 5: Look, I love it was Daniel Jones was able to 528 00:23:04,228 --> 00:23:05,628 Speaker 5: do the resurgence story. 529 00:23:05,668 --> 00:23:06,828 Speaker 3: It felt so good. 530 00:23:07,268 --> 00:23:09,268 Speaker 5: But I think there are some moves that have truly 531 00:23:09,348 --> 00:23:12,068 Speaker 5: hurt this team this afseason. I absolutely hate that they 532 00:23:12,148 --> 00:23:14,468 Speaker 5: let a guy like Zaire Franklin go, a four or 533 00:23:14,508 --> 00:23:16,508 Speaker 5: five time captain for that team, led the league in 534 00:23:16,548 --> 00:23:21,028 Speaker 5: tackles multiple years, has the tackling record there in Indianapolis. 535 00:23:21,028 --> 00:23:24,668 Speaker 5: You letting Nick cross Go, you're starting safety, you overpay 536 00:23:24,748 --> 00:23:27,828 Speaker 5: for Alec Pearson. I say overpaid because Alec Pierce is 537 00:23:27,828 --> 00:23:30,948 Speaker 5: more of a splash play wide receiver. I think, to 538 00:23:31,068 --> 00:23:33,108 Speaker 5: garner that type of money, you need to be a 539 00:23:33,228 --> 00:23:36,068 Speaker 5: routine play wide receiver, and for me, Alec Pierce is 540 00:23:36,068 --> 00:23:39,108 Speaker 5: more of a deep ball, flash play, splash play type 541 00:23:39,108 --> 00:23:41,828 Speaker 5: of receiver just over a thousand yards. I know he 542 00:23:41,868 --> 00:23:44,068 Speaker 5: had a lot of yards per catch, but he's not 543 00:23:44,148 --> 00:23:46,908 Speaker 5: a guy that is just so involved in an offense. 544 00:23:46,908 --> 00:23:49,108 Speaker 5: From a standpoint, like man, you can rely on him 545 00:23:49,148 --> 00:23:50,668 Speaker 5: down down after down. 546 00:23:50,708 --> 00:23:52,108 Speaker 4: I just don't feel that way about him. 547 00:23:52,108 --> 00:23:54,068 Speaker 5: I love the speed, I love the big play potential, 548 00:23:54,308 --> 00:23:57,148 Speaker 5: but I just I don't like that. And then you 549 00:23:57,188 --> 00:24:00,108 Speaker 5: also let Quinny pego one of your better pass rushers. 550 00:24:00,188 --> 00:24:02,668 Speaker 5: I understand you went and got arden Key, but arden 551 00:24:02,748 --> 00:24:05,108 Speaker 5: Key is more of a true pass rush. Sure, Quidy 552 00:24:05,148 --> 00:24:07,268 Speaker 5: pay is a more complete defensive end. And I know 553 00:24:07,348 --> 00:24:09,788 Speaker 5: he's older and things of that nature, but I just 554 00:24:09,908 --> 00:24:12,028 Speaker 5: don't like the moves. And I think that that little 555 00:24:12,068 --> 00:24:13,868 Speaker 5: one year Super Bowl windows. 556 00:24:13,748 --> 00:24:16,868 Speaker 8: Closed one year you know who else is a complete 557 00:24:16,908 --> 00:24:18,988 Speaker 8: defensive end. I'm so glad you brought that up because 558 00:24:18,988 --> 00:24:20,868 Speaker 8: Trey Hendrickson is a complete defensive end. 559 00:24:20,908 --> 00:24:22,748 Speaker 9: And Trey Hendrickson has history with. 560 00:24:22,748 --> 00:24:25,988 Speaker 8: Defensive coordinator lou Anromo and played unbelievable football for him 561 00:24:25,988 --> 00:24:29,588 Speaker 8: in Cincinnati. And I really thought the Indianapolis Colts, I 562 00:24:29,628 --> 00:24:31,628 Speaker 8: know they were involved, but I really thought they were 563 00:24:31,668 --> 00:24:33,308 Speaker 8: going to say we are going to go for it. 564 00:24:33,308 --> 00:24:35,148 Speaker 8: We're gonna go for it hard with Trey Hendrickson, and 565 00:24:36,068 --> 00:24:38,748 Speaker 8: maybe had not, maybe had themselves a window before the 566 00:24:38,788 --> 00:24:40,948 Speaker 8: Max Crosby trade fell apart, and the Raven said we 567 00:24:40,988 --> 00:24:42,588 Speaker 8: absolutely got to do what we have to do to 568 00:24:42,588 --> 00:24:45,348 Speaker 8: get Hendrickson that they could have potentially gotten it done. 569 00:24:45,388 --> 00:24:48,348 Speaker 8: So I'm gonna say keep trying because arden Key is good. 570 00:24:48,348 --> 00:24:51,068 Speaker 8: You're right, pass rusher are going to create a little 571 00:24:51,108 --> 00:24:54,868 Speaker 8: bit of an issue for quarterbacks, But Trey Hendrickson On 572 00:24:54,948 --> 00:24:57,708 Speaker 8: that defense would have been something that would have taken 573 00:24:57,708 --> 00:24:59,148 Speaker 8: it to the next level of my mind. So I'm 574 00:24:59,148 --> 00:25:01,188 Speaker 8: going to keep trying a little disappointed that they didn't 575 00:25:01,188 --> 00:25:02,868 Speaker 8: go even harder for Hendrickson. 576 00:25:02,948 --> 00:25:04,788 Speaker 3: Yeah, to be fair, by the way, Mike, they did 577 00:25:04,868 --> 00:25:06,548 Speaker 3: put the Chips in the middle of the table last 578 00:25:06,628 --> 00:25:08,628 Speaker 3: year at the trade deadline. Two first round picks. That's 579 00:25:08,708 --> 00:25:12,348 Speaker 3: pretty significant. Compensation for Sauce Gardner, who once again was 580 00:25:12,388 --> 00:25:14,708 Speaker 3: banked up. I don't we you know, Sethan, I know 581 00:25:14,708 --> 00:25:16,588 Speaker 3: you say, keep trying here, but at the same time, like, 582 00:25:16,668 --> 00:25:18,548 Speaker 3: let's see that guy out on the football field and 583 00:25:18,828 --> 00:25:22,028 Speaker 3: figure out what they end up looking like. 584 00:25:22,348 --> 00:25:23,948 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, look, you got to go out there 585 00:25:23,948 --> 00:25:26,108 Speaker 10: and play the games. It's not like the division's awful. 586 00:25:26,148 --> 00:25:27,988 Speaker 10: You know, the Texans are good, the Jaguars are good. 587 00:25:28,028 --> 00:25:28,828 Speaker 2: That's a good division. 588 00:25:28,868 --> 00:25:31,148 Speaker 10: But I do think they put themselves in the best 589 00:25:31,148 --> 00:25:32,548 Speaker 10: position to win the games. 590 00:25:32,588 --> 00:25:35,308 Speaker 2: And again we. 591 00:25:34,388 --> 00:25:37,308 Speaker 10: Look at the collapse, but Daniel Jones was out, he 592 00:25:37,468 --> 00:25:39,628 Speaker 10: was gone, he was done, and they were a different 593 00:25:39,628 --> 00:25:42,428 Speaker 10: They were a shell of themselves with Philip Rivers leve 594 00:25:42,428 --> 00:25:44,068 Speaker 10: old man Rivers great story, but they were just a 595 00:25:44,068 --> 00:25:44,788 Speaker 10: shell of themselves. 596 00:25:44,828 --> 00:25:47,668 Speaker 2: So I come on, I'm buying. I like these moves. 597 00:25:47,708 --> 00:25:52,108 Speaker 2: Guys were they all were. Keep trying. I'm buying it, baby, 598 00:25:52,188 --> 00:25:52,988 Speaker 2: Let's go Colts. 599 00:25:53,388 --> 00:25:54,828 Speaker 3: I'm locked. I swear. 600 00:25:57,748 --> 00:26:00,548 Speaker 9: Max Crosby were traded to the Ravens. 601 00:26:00,148 --> 00:26:02,388 Speaker 4: For the fair of first round picks. 602 00:26:02,588 --> 00:26:05,028 Speaker 2: The trade for Max Crosby is now. 603 00:26:04,948 --> 00:26:08,468 Speaker 6: All I've got a responsibility to the raven to do 604 00:26:08,548 --> 00:26:09,668 Speaker 6: what we think is best. 605 00:26:09,788 --> 00:26:10,468 Speaker 2: For the club. 606 00:26:10,628 --> 00:26:13,308 Speaker 11: There are fans who are saying they got cold feet. 607 00:26:13,388 --> 00:26:16,748 Speaker 11: At worst, they are fans suggesting that something shady. 608 00:26:16,428 --> 00:26:18,668 Speaker 2: Is going on. Nobody more disappointed me when this. 609 00:26:18,668 --> 00:26:22,388 Speaker 11: Gets even more nuclear is if somehow someway they go 610 00:26:22,428 --> 00:26:23,628 Speaker 11: after Trey Hendrickson. 611 00:26:23,668 --> 00:26:27,108 Speaker 7: Now, the Baltimore Ravens have a breed to terms with 612 00:26:27,308 --> 00:26:28,308 Speaker 7: Trey Hendrickson. 613 00:26:28,388 --> 00:26:31,668 Speaker 9: He is a Raider. Trey Hendrickson is a Raven. Up 614 00:26:31,868 --> 00:26:32,468 Speaker 9: is down? 615 00:26:32,948 --> 00:26:33,308 Speaker 4: Cold? 616 00:26:33,428 --> 00:26:33,908 Speaker 9: Is hot? 617 00:26:34,308 --> 00:26:34,468 Speaker 2: Well? 618 00:26:34,508 --> 00:26:35,828 Speaker 6: Right now we have those picks right. 619 00:26:35,748 --> 00:26:37,628 Speaker 9: And they have both their first round kick. 620 00:26:37,708 --> 00:26:40,588 Speaker 11: I suspect that if Trey Hendrickson was not available, that 621 00:26:40,668 --> 00:26:43,228 Speaker 11: Max Crosby is a Raven right now? 622 00:26:43,828 --> 00:26:46,188 Speaker 3: All right, here's what happens when you get a little 623 00:26:46,228 --> 00:26:48,228 Speaker 3: bit of drama on a Wednesday. You don't get to 624 00:26:48,268 --> 00:26:51,668 Speaker 3: do a planned segment whiteboard Wednesday. Instead, we got a 625 00:26:51,708 --> 00:26:55,388 Speaker 3: special whiteboard Thursday. So first question, guys, twenty twenty six 626 00:26:55,468 --> 00:26:58,388 Speaker 3: offseason moves so far that we think we could be 627 00:26:58,468 --> 00:27:00,348 Speaker 3: talking about next January. 628 00:27:00,708 --> 00:27:09,788 Speaker 5: Jason Is, I've got, Oh, that's a good one. Malik Willis, 629 00:27:09,988 --> 00:27:12,308 Speaker 5: I got Malik Willis. I think this is probably the 630 00:27:12,308 --> 00:27:17,308 Speaker 5: most interesting trade this free agency, you know, in terms 631 00:27:17,308 --> 00:27:19,468 Speaker 5: of a pickup. I think there's a lot of pressure 632 00:27:19,508 --> 00:27:21,628 Speaker 5: for this guy. I don't think there's any free agent 633 00:27:21,668 --> 00:27:24,068 Speaker 5: that has more pressure to go out there and perform. 634 00:27:24,308 --> 00:27:25,188 Speaker 4: I live in Florida. 635 00:27:25,308 --> 00:27:28,388 Speaker 5: I have heard the discourse around TUA. They are tired 636 00:27:28,428 --> 00:27:30,908 Speaker 5: of not having consistency at the quarterback position. 637 00:27:31,188 --> 00:27:32,508 Speaker 4: I think this is quite the gamble. 638 00:27:32,788 --> 00:27:35,508 Speaker 5: We saw what happen in Tennessee, and then also we 639 00:27:35,548 --> 00:27:38,308 Speaker 5: saw in Green Bay that this guy is capable of 640 00:27:38,348 --> 00:27:40,988 Speaker 5: showing off that first round potential that we saw coming 641 00:27:40,988 --> 00:27:44,548 Speaker 5: out of college. Now can he perform as the guy? 642 00:27:45,068 --> 00:27:46,988 Speaker 5: I felt like he was calm, cool and collected in 643 00:27:47,028 --> 00:27:49,268 Speaker 5: Green Bay because he wasn't the guy. It didn't matter 644 00:27:49,308 --> 00:27:51,988 Speaker 5: how he performed, because regardless, it was Jordan Love's team. 645 00:27:52,388 --> 00:27:54,948 Speaker 5: But this is now his team. They've given him the 646 00:27:54,988 --> 00:27:57,788 Speaker 5: keys to the city. Can he go out there and 647 00:27:57,948 --> 00:28:01,108 Speaker 5: have a consistent level of play. We saw some accuracy, 648 00:28:01,148 --> 00:28:03,388 Speaker 5: we saw some playmaking. He knew when to use his 649 00:28:03,508 --> 00:28:05,188 Speaker 5: legs when it threw it out of bounds. We saw 650 00:28:05,228 --> 00:28:08,028 Speaker 5: some maturity and growth in his game in Green Bay. 651 00:28:08,228 --> 00:28:11,228 Speaker 5: Can he go out there and continue to play that 652 00:28:11,268 --> 00:28:15,028 Speaker 5: way in Miami. That's a big question mark and it's 653 00:28:15,068 --> 00:28:17,908 Speaker 5: a big gamble, and we'll see next year. How we're 654 00:28:17,948 --> 00:28:19,868 Speaker 5: talking about Malik Willis after this season? 655 00:28:21,028 --> 00:28:22,948 Speaker 2: You Wilin' you wilin. 656 00:28:23,188 --> 00:28:25,788 Speaker 10: We've been talking about Malik Willis in January. There is 657 00:28:25,868 --> 00:28:29,548 Speaker 10: no chance we're gonna find out exactly what he's all about. 658 00:28:29,548 --> 00:28:31,668 Speaker 10: And November and then they're gonna be out of the 659 00:28:31,668 --> 00:28:35,828 Speaker 10: playoff picture. We are not gonna be talking about Malik Willis, 660 00:28:35,988 --> 00:28:38,628 Speaker 10: but we are gonna be talking about the AFC East 661 00:28:38,708 --> 00:28:39,628 Speaker 10: because we will be. 662 00:28:39,628 --> 00:28:40,948 Speaker 2: Talking about Josh Allen. 663 00:28:41,148 --> 00:28:43,188 Speaker 10: We will be talking about the Buffalo Bills, and we 664 00:28:43,228 --> 00:28:46,708 Speaker 10: will be talking about the man who he is throwing 665 00:28:46,868 --> 00:28:50,948 Speaker 10: the football to in January when the Bills are in 666 00:28:50,988 --> 00:28:56,348 Speaker 10: the playoffs, because they have a competent quarterback, Dj Moore, 667 00:28:56,548 --> 00:29:00,108 Speaker 10: and this move, this trade, the Bills went out, they 668 00:29:00,188 --> 00:29:03,068 Speaker 10: went big, They traded a second round pick. They got 669 00:29:03,148 --> 00:29:07,388 Speaker 10: Dj Moore, who should maybe number one receivers, certainly had 670 00:29:07,388 --> 00:29:09,748 Speaker 10: been their number one receiver for the past few years. Obviously, 671 00:29:09,828 --> 00:29:11,668 Speaker 10: the Bears think they're going in a different direction. We 672 00:29:11,668 --> 00:29:15,948 Speaker 10: were home with Duonza and Luther Burden. However, Josh Allen 673 00:29:16,388 --> 00:29:20,468 Speaker 10: now gets a reliable target and when it is crunch 674 00:29:20,588 --> 00:29:24,228 Speaker 10: time and he has got to throw the ball to somebody, 675 00:29:24,468 --> 00:29:28,148 Speaker 10: he will look for number two Dj Moore. Maybe he's 676 00:29:28,148 --> 00:29:29,868 Speaker 10: not number two in Buffalo. I don't know, but you 677 00:29:29,948 --> 00:29:32,428 Speaker 10: get the idea. DJ Moore is going to be a 678 00:29:32,508 --> 00:29:35,428 Speaker 10: difference maker for Josh Allen because he's going to be 679 00:29:35,468 --> 00:29:39,628 Speaker 10: a reliable target for him when Josh Allen needs it 680 00:29:39,988 --> 00:29:44,548 Speaker 10: the most. And mark my words, Kaminda, mark my words, 681 00:29:44,988 --> 00:29:47,588 Speaker 10: the Bills will be playing in January, the Dolphins or 682 00:29:47,708 --> 00:29:50,948 Speaker 10: the Miami Packers as we want to call them. I 683 00:29:50,988 --> 00:29:53,028 Speaker 10: don't really know that's gonna go out, Mike ge what 684 00:29:53,028 --> 00:29:53,468 Speaker 10: do you think. 685 00:29:53,668 --> 00:29:55,268 Speaker 8: I think it's a great answer, and I think it's 686 00:29:55,308 --> 00:29:57,188 Speaker 8: gonna hurt a little bit when you see DJ Moore 687 00:29:57,228 --> 00:29:59,268 Speaker 8: making big plays the way that he used to make 688 00:29:59,348 --> 00:30:02,348 Speaker 8: them for the Bears. But listen, man, you can't keep mall. 689 00:30:02,828 --> 00:30:05,588 Speaker 8: Sometimes you wish you can, you can't keep more. Look 690 00:30:05,988 --> 00:30:08,508 Speaker 8: to me, there is one move in the NFL over 691 00:30:08,548 --> 00:30:13,748 Speaker 8: the last couple of days that is league changing. Gardner 692 00:30:13,788 --> 00:30:17,508 Speaker 8: Minshew Gardner Minshew signing with the Arizona Cardinals for five 693 00:30:17,548 --> 00:30:20,828 Speaker 8: point seventy five million dollars strong sund good for Gardner Minshew, 694 00:30:20,828 --> 00:30:23,588 Speaker 8: A great deal, awesome, really good backup. 695 00:30:23,908 --> 00:30:24,308 Speaker 9: Love it. 696 00:30:24,708 --> 00:30:26,788 Speaker 8: Here's why we're gonna be talking about it in January 697 00:30:27,028 --> 00:30:28,948 Speaker 8: because the Arizona Cardinals are going into the season with 698 00:30:28,988 --> 00:30:32,148 Speaker 8: Gardner Minshew and Jacoby Brissett. KOVI said didn't win many 699 00:30:32,188 --> 00:30:34,668 Speaker 8: games for them as a starter. So here's why we'll 700 00:30:34,708 --> 00:30:38,148 Speaker 8: be talking about it in January. Here's your draft order 701 00:30:38,508 --> 00:30:42,388 Speaker 8: for the twenty twenty seven NFL drafts, in which there 702 00:30:42,388 --> 00:30:46,548 Speaker 8: are expected to be multiple franchise quarterbacks, including potentially arch 703 00:30:46,628 --> 00:30:48,868 Speaker 8: Manning in that draft. You're gonna go back and say, hey, 704 00:30:48,868 --> 00:30:51,348 Speaker 8: the Cardinals really didn't go for it last year from 705 00:30:51,388 --> 00:30:54,108 Speaker 8: the quarterback position. They could have been more aggressive with 706 00:30:54,148 --> 00:30:55,668 Speaker 8: some of the guys that were available. They went for 707 00:30:55,748 --> 00:30:58,268 Speaker 8: Gardner Minshew, they came in it, I don't know, three 708 00:30:58,268 --> 00:31:00,548 Speaker 8: and fourteen perhaps maybe, and they've got the number one 709 00:31:00,588 --> 00:31:01,588 Speaker 8: overall pick in the. 710 00:31:01,548 --> 00:31:03,068 Speaker 9: Twenty twenty seven the NFL draft. 711 00:31:03,108 --> 00:31:04,588 Speaker 8: I think that's where we're gonna be talking about that 712 00:31:04,588 --> 00:31:05,628 Speaker 8: one come January. 713 00:31:05,668 --> 00:31:07,908 Speaker 9: We'll see if not save this clip make me look 714 00:31:07,948 --> 00:31:08,468 Speaker 9: like an idiot. 715 00:31:08,508 --> 00:31:10,268 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I think you're actually gonna look pretty smart. 716 00:31:10,268 --> 00:31:12,148 Speaker 3: By the way, kudos to you, Mike. Even all the 717 00:31:12,188 --> 00:31:13,828 Speaker 3: news that we've had over the last couple of days, 718 00:31:13,828 --> 00:31:15,588 Speaker 3: we haven't even gotten to this year's draft. You're already 719 00:31:15,588 --> 00:31:17,588 Speaker 3: looking the next year, which is why I absolutely love 720 00:31:17,628 --> 00:31:21,068 Speaker 3: you all right, aside from the Crosby news cycle, Here, 721 00:31:21,348 --> 00:31:24,988 Speaker 3: biggest surprise of the off season so far, Jason teemy 722 00:31:25,028 --> 00:31:26,428 Speaker 3: off here, what do we got? 723 00:31:27,348 --> 00:31:33,988 Speaker 5: Biggest surprise of the off season. I've got, Oh, the 724 00:31:33,988 --> 00:31:37,308 Speaker 5: Detroit Lions. I've got the Detroit Lions. And I say 725 00:31:37,308 --> 00:31:41,748 Speaker 5: that because I am surprised that the only move really 726 00:31:41,788 --> 00:31:43,708 Speaker 5: that they've made this off season. 727 00:31:43,788 --> 00:31:45,828 Speaker 2: Is along the offensive line. 728 00:31:45,948 --> 00:31:49,468 Speaker 4: They wait and got juice scrugs for David Montgomery. 729 00:31:49,628 --> 00:31:52,908 Speaker 5: Very sad, sonic and knuckles break up, but they show 730 00:31:52,988 --> 00:31:55,268 Speaker 5: up that offensive line. They've gone and grabbed a couple 731 00:31:55,268 --> 00:31:55,788 Speaker 5: of tackles. 732 00:31:55,828 --> 00:31:57,428 Speaker 2: They let Taylor Decker go. 733 00:31:58,108 --> 00:32:01,468 Speaker 5: But there are some issues on this team. Kirby Joseph 734 00:32:01,508 --> 00:32:04,068 Speaker 5: I from getting reports here in that you know, the knee, 735 00:32:04,068 --> 00:32:07,268 Speaker 5: and he isn't progressing the way they want to. Brian Branch, 736 00:32:07,308 --> 00:32:08,988 Speaker 5: they don't know when he's going to be coming back. 737 00:32:09,228 --> 00:32:12,348 Speaker 5: Alex Anzeloni, one of their leaders in the linebacker corps, 738 00:32:12,428 --> 00:32:15,148 Speaker 5: he's gone. I understand that they trust Jack Canley's a 739 00:32:15,228 --> 00:32:19,228 Speaker 5: po bowler last year, but they're beginning to be some 740 00:32:19,348 --> 00:32:21,428 Speaker 5: holes on this team. We keep talking about, is there 741 00:32:21,428 --> 00:32:24,348 Speaker 5: a Super Bowl window closed? I don't know if they're 742 00:32:24,388 --> 00:32:27,348 Speaker 5: making enough moves right now to keep it open. We're 743 00:32:27,428 --> 00:32:30,428 Speaker 5: still talking up about pass rush and a guy opposite 744 00:32:30,468 --> 00:32:34,628 Speaker 5: Aiden Hutchinson to make that pass rush more dynamic. Not 745 00:32:34,708 --> 00:32:37,548 Speaker 5: only that, the lack of free agency moves and the 746 00:32:37,668 --> 00:32:41,508 Speaker 5: lack of quality draft picks past the second round. I 747 00:32:41,508 --> 00:32:44,868 Speaker 5: think this is a very weak draft class across multiple 748 00:32:44,908 --> 00:32:48,708 Speaker 5: positions quarterback, running back, wide receiver, defensive line. 749 00:32:48,748 --> 00:32:50,108 Speaker 4: It is a weak class. 750 00:32:50,308 --> 00:32:52,308 Speaker 5: I know they've drafted really well, but I just don't 751 00:32:52,308 --> 00:32:55,668 Speaker 5: think there are great prospects this year compared to pass drafts. 752 00:32:55,788 --> 00:32:59,588 Speaker 5: So I'm not sure exactly what the thought process is 753 00:32:59,628 --> 00:33:01,628 Speaker 5: going on in the Detroit lines right now. 754 00:33:01,908 --> 00:33:03,428 Speaker 10: You know, I like where your head Zach and Benda. 755 00:33:03,468 --> 00:33:05,468 Speaker 10: I do it because I'm a Bears fan, and I 756 00:33:05,508 --> 00:33:08,868 Speaker 10: like when you talk bad about Aniston North team. But 757 00:33:08,908 --> 00:33:10,428 Speaker 10: I like where your head's at here. I'm going to 758 00:33:10,508 --> 00:33:12,508 Speaker 10: kind of go in a different direction, a little less 759 00:33:12,628 --> 00:33:15,188 Speaker 10: x's and o's, a little less wins and losses. Although 760 00:33:15,188 --> 00:33:16,988 Speaker 10: I do think this one's going to factor into that. 761 00:33:17,748 --> 00:33:20,508 Speaker 10: This is just gonna be weird. It's a weird thing 762 00:33:20,548 --> 00:33:24,108 Speaker 10: that's going to happen. Next year, Mike Evans is not 763 00:33:24,148 --> 00:33:27,068 Speaker 10: going to be playing for Tampa Bay and he's going 764 00:33:27,148 --> 00:33:29,708 Speaker 10: to be in the Bay Area with the San Francisco 765 00:33:29,828 --> 00:33:34,068 Speaker 10: forty nine ers, And to me, that is just so strange. 766 00:33:34,148 --> 00:33:36,748 Speaker 10: Mike Evans is a guy when you think Tampa Bay 767 00:33:36,788 --> 00:33:39,988 Speaker 10: in the last decade, that's Mike Evans is literally the 768 00:33:40,028 --> 00:33:42,268 Speaker 10: first thing that comes to mind. You just think of 769 00:33:42,348 --> 00:33:45,428 Speaker 10: thirteen in that Bucks uniform. You think about the consistency, 770 00:33:45,508 --> 00:33:47,748 Speaker 10: You think about what he's been able to do, whether 771 00:33:47,788 --> 00:33:50,788 Speaker 10: he's hurt, whether he's healthy, it doesn't matter. If we're 772 00:33:50,828 --> 00:33:54,588 Speaker 10: talking about Tampa Bay's success, it is constantly hinging on 773 00:33:54,708 --> 00:33:57,588 Speaker 10: Mike Evans, and so it's going to be so strange 774 00:33:57,748 --> 00:33:59,348 Speaker 10: to see him in San Francisco. 775 00:33:59,468 --> 00:33:59,668 Speaker 2: Now. 776 00:33:59,908 --> 00:34:01,708 Speaker 10: On the football side of that, I think it's an 777 00:34:01,748 --> 00:34:05,068 Speaker 10: incredible move. I understand you're saying, I want to go 778 00:34:05,068 --> 00:34:08,228 Speaker 10: win a Super Bowl. Now it's a little bit of 779 00:34:08,228 --> 00:34:11,668 Speaker 10: an indictment on maybe where Tampa Bay's at as an organization, 780 00:34:12,148 --> 00:34:15,268 Speaker 10: and then an endorsement where San Francisco is at. And 781 00:34:15,308 --> 00:34:17,508 Speaker 10: I think you put all these pieces together, you give 782 00:34:17,668 --> 00:34:21,108 Speaker 10: Rock Purdy just an incredible weapon in Mike Evans, and 783 00:34:21,108 --> 00:34:24,548 Speaker 10: someone who's a legend and obviously a great perceiving pedigree 784 00:34:24,588 --> 00:34:26,708 Speaker 10: in the city of San Francisco. That team has done 785 00:34:26,708 --> 00:34:28,788 Speaker 10: pretty well for itself in that department over the years. 786 00:34:28,828 --> 00:34:30,908 Speaker 10: So it's just going to be so weird to see 787 00:34:30,908 --> 00:34:34,828 Speaker 10: Mike Evans suiting up in the Golden Red. I just 788 00:34:35,148 --> 00:34:37,628 Speaker 10: I can't It's weird, man, It's weird, Mike. I don't 789 00:34:37,628 --> 00:34:39,588 Speaker 10: know how to feel about it. 790 00:34:39,588 --> 00:34:42,668 Speaker 9: It is weird. It's fascinating. I can't wait to see it. Look, 791 00:34:42,708 --> 00:34:43,828 Speaker 9: I'm wrong constantly. 792 00:34:43,908 --> 00:34:46,828 Speaker 8: Okay, so when I say this, now, I say it 793 00:34:46,828 --> 00:34:50,668 Speaker 8: with all due respect. There are blogs and websites that 794 00:34:51,148 --> 00:34:55,148 Speaker 8: track NFL contracts. They projected Jalen Phillips in the area 795 00:34:55,188 --> 00:34:58,548 Speaker 8: of fifteen to seventeen million dollars leading up. 796 00:34:58,468 --> 00:34:59,188 Speaker 9: The free agency. 797 00:34:59,188 --> 00:35:01,468 Speaker 8: I started to ask questions in Philadelphia about the edge 798 00:35:01,548 --> 00:35:04,268 Speaker 8: rusher that they traded for at the trade deadline. I said, 799 00:35:04,388 --> 00:35:07,428 Speaker 8: he gonna get over twenty and they were like, yeah, 800 00:35:07,468 --> 00:35:10,828 Speaker 8: he's going to get over twenty. How about thirty thirty 801 00:35:11,588 --> 00:35:15,308 Speaker 8: million dollars per season for Jalen? And now, look, that 802 00:35:15,468 --> 00:35:18,828 Speaker 8: was the Panthers sort of doing what the Ravens did 803 00:35:18,868 --> 00:35:22,268 Speaker 8: with with Grey Henderson, where it's like we're not missing on, 804 00:35:22,548 --> 00:35:25,268 Speaker 8: like keep going keep I would love to see the 805 00:35:25,628 --> 00:35:28,988 Speaker 8: email chain from Dan Morgan or Brent Taylis or whoever 806 00:35:28,988 --> 00:35:32,268 Speaker 8: sent it in Carolina to Jalen phillips agent, because I'd 807 00:35:32,308 --> 00:35:34,708 Speaker 8: love to see where it started. I'd love to see 808 00:35:35,188 --> 00:35:37,548 Speaker 8: the Eagles offers that were. I want to see it 809 00:35:37,548 --> 00:35:39,308 Speaker 8: all because it's probably just. 810 00:35:39,268 --> 00:35:41,948 Speaker 9: Like more more, more more. 811 00:35:41,748 --> 00:35:44,708 Speaker 8: Like that meme that you see that's out there, Jalen 812 00:35:44,748 --> 00:35:48,668 Speaker 8: Phillips getting thirty million dollars per season, which was when 813 00:35:48,748 --> 00:35:50,308 Speaker 8: Max Krogby was doing his deal. 814 00:35:50,668 --> 00:35:52,428 Speaker 9: His name's on the screen. That was the top of 815 00:35:52,508 --> 00:35:55,228 Speaker 9: the pass rusher market. If I'm not mistaken, And now 816 00:35:55,348 --> 00:35:57,748 Speaker 9: Jalen Phillips is up there, more power to you. Congratulation. 817 00:35:57,908 --> 00:35:59,868 Speaker 9: Jalen Phillips did not see that number coming. 818 00:36:00,028 --> 00:36:00,828 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm with you. 819 00:36:00,868 --> 00:36:03,028 Speaker 3: There obviously a force after that trade deadline in that 820 00:36:03,028 --> 00:36:07,228 Speaker 3: Philadelphia uniform while Gino Smith Let's go Mike headed back 821 00:36:07,268 --> 00:36:10,308 Speaker 3: to the Jets where he started his career twenty twenty 822 00:36:10,348 --> 00:36:12,628 Speaker 3: two when he was with the Seahawks. Smith, how about 823 00:36:12,628 --> 00:36:16,788 Speaker 3: that little gem to ESPN's Lisa Assaulters after beating Russell 824 00:36:16,828 --> 00:36:18,988 Speaker 3: Wilson and the Broncos take a listen. 825 00:36:20,428 --> 00:36:22,308 Speaker 2: So for the folks you said had bring you off, 826 00:36:22,348 --> 00:36:22,988 Speaker 2: maybe what. 827 00:36:22,908 --> 00:36:23,828 Speaker 4: Do they say to them? 828 00:36:24,268 --> 00:36:26,508 Speaker 2: Yeah, they wrote me off. I ain't right back though, 829 00:36:27,028 --> 00:36:28,348 Speaker 2: that's the problem. I ain't right back. 830 00:36:28,428 --> 00:36:32,268 Speaker 10: Let's go congratulations, you know. 831 00:36:31,988 --> 00:36:35,748 Speaker 3: Absolutely a classic line from Geno Smith. All right, final 832 00:36:36,068 --> 00:36:41,828 Speaker 3: whiteboard favorite right now postgame quote of all time? Which 833 00:36:41,828 --> 00:36:43,148 Speaker 3: way do we go? Our favorite quote? 834 00:36:43,188 --> 00:36:43,628 Speaker 4: What is it? 835 00:36:44,508 --> 00:36:47,308 Speaker 5: This one is pretty easy and it is a runaway 836 00:36:47,308 --> 00:36:51,668 Speaker 5: from me. It is Richard Sherman postgame the beef with Crabtree. 837 00:36:51,908 --> 00:36:54,428 Speaker 12: I'm the best broadcast in the game. That's what you 838 00:36:54,468 --> 00:36:56,388 Speaker 12: do when you can put me within a sorry like 839 00:36:56,988 --> 00:37:02,068 Speaker 12: second problem with me to clip the clip. 840 00:37:02,908 --> 00:37:04,988 Speaker 2: I'm the best corner of the game. When you try 841 00:37:05,068 --> 00:37:07,228 Speaker 2: me what a sorry, receive it like craftree. That's the 842 00:37:07,268 --> 00:37:10,108 Speaker 2: result you don't get. Don't you ever talk about me? 843 00:37:14,548 --> 00:37:18,668 Speaker 5: This is the raw emotion of football of the NFL. 844 00:37:18,828 --> 00:37:21,508 Speaker 5: I mean, this is the peak of competitiveness. 845 00:37:21,548 --> 00:37:22,828 Speaker 4: I absolutely love it. 846 00:37:22,428 --> 00:37:25,668 Speaker 5: It's popcorn, man, when there's real beef, it's popcorn. When 847 00:37:25,668 --> 00:37:28,588 Speaker 5: you're out there and guys are talking smacking things, get personal, man, 848 00:37:28,628 --> 00:37:31,428 Speaker 5: you get the best of the best, iron sharpening iron man. 849 00:37:31,508 --> 00:37:34,108 Speaker 4: Richard Truman got the best of Michael Kraftchi there. That 850 00:37:34,268 --> 00:37:36,308 Speaker 4: is an all timer. From Richard Sherman. 851 00:37:36,748 --> 00:37:38,708 Speaker 2: That is an all timer. That isn't all time. 852 00:37:38,788 --> 00:37:41,508 Speaker 10: I'm going I'm going more recent though, And you mentioned, 853 00:37:41,548 --> 00:37:45,748 Speaker 10: you know, rivalries, you mentioned beef. This one it cuts 854 00:37:45,788 --> 00:37:47,828 Speaker 10: to the core. I don't even really need to say it. 855 00:37:47,868 --> 00:37:51,388 Speaker 10: I actually can't say it, but my head coach, he 856 00:37:51,548 --> 00:37:54,828 Speaker 10: says it, and y'all can say it. Roll the clip, baby. 857 00:37:55,028 --> 00:37:55,508 Speaker 6: Really. 858 00:38:11,668 --> 00:38:14,748 Speaker 10: Yeah, that's my favorite of all time. 859 00:38:14,868 --> 00:38:19,028 Speaker 13: Man, ex kid me the let's I'm ready to run 860 00:38:19,068 --> 00:38:21,068 Speaker 13: to the wall right now and it's five o'clock in 861 00:38:21,108 --> 00:38:24,508 Speaker 13: the morning. Let's go look at it shirt all fired up. 862 00:38:24,868 --> 00:38:27,788 Speaker 13: That's the best postgame coach in the biz. Maybe I 863 00:38:27,828 --> 00:38:29,748 Speaker 13: can't wait to see what we got for a year two. 864 00:38:29,868 --> 00:38:32,908 Speaker 13: Let's go my jeeve top that if you can, Son. 865 00:38:34,228 --> 00:38:38,308 Speaker 8: I love the execution from the time that they It's like, 866 00:38:38,468 --> 00:38:41,708 Speaker 8: you know, Seth, when you're when you're introducing a WrestleMania 867 00:38:41,788 --> 00:38:45,828 Speaker 8: storyline around the Royal Rambo or whatever. He started that 868 00:38:45,868 --> 00:38:47,908 Speaker 8: with his press conference and then he carried all the 869 00:38:47,908 --> 00:38:50,748 Speaker 8: way through the entire season and the rivalry all the 870 00:38:50,788 --> 00:38:54,548 Speaker 8: way through all Right, here's mine, okay, Ice, your peach 871 00:38:54,708 --> 00:38:55,508 Speaker 8: emoji up. 872 00:38:55,828 --> 00:38:59,748 Speaker 9: Now, hold on, I know what you're saying. You got 873 00:38:59,748 --> 00:39:02,748 Speaker 9: the quote wrong. I did not get the quote wrong. Okay. 874 00:39:03,148 --> 00:39:07,308 Speaker 8: This was the quote from my now colleague Steve Smith 875 00:39:07,908 --> 00:39:10,028 Speaker 8: to your boy, because I had. 876 00:39:09,988 --> 00:39:11,428 Speaker 9: Him before Albert Breer that night. 877 00:39:11,468 --> 00:39:14,148 Speaker 8: I was working for Fox at that at that time, 878 00:39:14,828 --> 00:39:17,308 Speaker 8: and I was doing a postgame intery for Fox Sports one. 879 00:39:17,508 --> 00:39:19,868 Speaker 9: I got Steve. They were like, you can have Steve 880 00:39:19,948 --> 00:39:21,228 Speaker 9: after the game. Here. 881 00:39:21,268 --> 00:39:22,948 Speaker 8: It is right here here and you can see the 882 00:39:23,068 --> 00:39:26,828 Speaker 8: look in his eyes. Okay, And that was the quote 883 00:39:26,908 --> 00:39:27,908 Speaker 8: as he said it to me. 884 00:39:27,988 --> 00:39:30,268 Speaker 9: And I was like, we've got gold. 885 00:39:30,588 --> 00:39:31,628 Speaker 4: Hurry up, get it. 886 00:39:31,588 --> 00:39:33,708 Speaker 8: In the air, get the clip out on social, hurry up, 887 00:39:33,748 --> 00:39:34,548 Speaker 8: hurry up, hurry up. 888 00:39:34,508 --> 00:39:36,188 Speaker 9: Hurry up, because I knew he was going to go 889 00:39:36,228 --> 00:39:37,028 Speaker 9: in the locker room. 890 00:39:36,988 --> 00:39:39,148 Speaker 8: And pretty much say the same stuff about a Keith 891 00:39:39,188 --> 00:39:43,188 Speaker 8: to leave Albert Breer than an NFL network grabs him 892 00:39:43,228 --> 00:39:45,828 Speaker 8: before he gets to the locker room. And they did 893 00:39:45,868 --> 00:39:48,308 Speaker 8: a much better job of getting that clip on the air, 894 00:39:48,428 --> 00:39:51,188 Speaker 8: out there on social, and before ours can get out there, 895 00:39:51,468 --> 00:39:52,748 Speaker 8: Brears was off and running. 896 00:39:52,748 --> 00:39:54,868 Speaker 9: Here it is what happened between. 897 00:39:54,628 --> 00:39:56,228 Speaker 2: You and Sleeve on the field road in the game. 898 00:39:56,388 --> 00:39:57,828 Speaker 4: Oh no, you gonna ask him be cause he to 899 00:39:57,908 --> 00:39:58,548 Speaker 4: finished the game. 900 00:39:58,708 --> 00:39:59,428 Speaker 3: I show up song. 901 00:39:59,588 --> 00:40:00,188 Speaker 2: I saw. 902 00:40:04,428 --> 00:40:07,788 Speaker 8: A tip of the cap to Albert Breer and the 903 00:40:07,828 --> 00:40:11,668 Speaker 8: folks at NFL Network. I believe that was Ed O'Brien. 904 00:40:11,708 --> 00:40:13,268 Speaker 8: I just saw in the background. Who was this field 905 00:40:13,268 --> 00:40:15,748 Speaker 8: producer that night. Good job by you, Ed to make 906 00:40:15,748 --> 00:40:18,268 Speaker 8: that happy. You stole my interview, You stole my moment, 907 00:40:18,308 --> 00:40:19,228 Speaker 8: You stole. 908 00:40:19,548 --> 00:40:22,668 Speaker 9: The legendary quote I had. He cursed in mind. 909 00:40:22,748 --> 00:40:23,428 Speaker 3: I was better. 910 00:40:25,228 --> 00:40:26,348 Speaker 9: There's a lot to unpack there. 911 00:40:26,428 --> 00:40:28,308 Speaker 3: Number One, shout out to Ed, who is truly one 912 00:40:28,308 --> 00:40:30,548 Speaker 3: of the best food producers that we absolutely have. Number one. 913 00:40:30,628 --> 00:40:33,108 Speaker 3: Number two, I was on set yesterday for four hours 914 00:40:33,148 --> 00:40:34,708 Speaker 3: with Steve. Let me just tell you this, do not 915 00:40:34,748 --> 00:40:36,428 Speaker 3: get on that dude. It's a bad side. I mean, 916 00:40:36,468 --> 00:40:39,628 Speaker 3: it's just abundantly clear there will be some chirpin out there. 917 00:40:39,628 --> 00:40:42,468 Speaker 3: But he does a remarkable job for us here on 918 00:40:42,588 --> 00:40:44,028 Speaker 3: the NFL Network.