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Speaker 1: good will with the UFC. But Kenny, this flies in

430
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Speaker 1: the face of everything that is a meritocracy, right and

431
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Speaker 1: everything that you I think as a sports fan would

432
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Speaker 1: want to be true to a sport. Movsar Ivloye was

433
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Speaker 1: passed over one time Diego Lopez gets a championship opportunity, right,

434
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Speaker 1: you're mops. Are you take that in stride as he did?

435
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Speaker 8: Yep?

436
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: But for Diego Lopez then to get a championship opportunity

437
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: against the same champion, Volkanovsky'd lose it, go out and

438
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,239
Speaker 1: beat John Silva, who yeah, was the man and then

439
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Speaker 1: get a shot again before Ivloye. If I don't know

440
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Speaker 1: how you deal with that, right, I don't know how

441
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: is mavsar ivloy If you don't start thinking about your

442
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: degree in computer programming and law and think about maybe

443
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: what you should go do. That says nothing of Laron

444
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Speaker 1: Murphy's candidacy. I led with Diego Lopez is establishment of

445
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: goodwill for a reason, Kenny. But to me this is

446
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Speaker 1: pretty hard to defend.

447
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Speaker 4: Well, I will say that you know that does matter

448
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 4: when you go out and do these kind of favors

449
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 4: for the UFC, It does matter, and it will come

450
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Speaker 4: back to often more often than not. Lopez is also

451
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 4: an extremely exciting fighter, okay, and I don't want to

452
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Speaker 4: take anything away from him, but I think everyone was

453
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Speaker 4: surprised by this decision for good for good reason. And

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Speaker 4: I also think there's a lot to be said for

455
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Speaker 4: just making a fresh matchup. This was not a fight

456
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 4: where it was like three two and the last round

457
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 4: could have gone either way. I thought it was a

458
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Speaker 4: pretty dominant performance from Volkanovsky. I thought it was pretty clear.

459
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Speaker 4: I thought Jago had one really really good round. But

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Speaker 4: does it warrant a rematch on this level. Did the

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Speaker 4: John Silva domination warrant a rematch with this, you know?

462
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Speaker 4: For this matchup, I don't think so. I think Laron

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Speaker 4: Murphy's performance warranted him a fight. I also think Mob's

464
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Speaker 4: are Evloyev and what he's done with his consistency warranted

465
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Speaker 4: him an opportunity. I like to see fresh matchups, and

466
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Speaker 4: I also think in a lot of ways, and again

467
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Speaker 4: no disrespect to Jego Lopez, who I think might be

468
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Speaker 4: a champion in the future, I don't think this does

469
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Speaker 4: him any favors because with all of that talent and

470
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Speaker 4: all that potential, give him more time to develop. If

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Speaker 4: he goes out through and loses his matchup, which is

472
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Speaker 4: maybe probable against going against maybe the best forty five

473
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Speaker 4: er of all time, when does he get his next shot?

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Speaker 4: How does he get that development to get that next

475
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Speaker 4: shot right? And I go, this is a guy who's

476
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Speaker 4: had three shots himself, and I know it's possible, but

477
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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five, in this kind of competitive environment

478
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Speaker 4: of UFC, I don't think it did him any favors either.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff, you know, and even if you look at

480
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Speaker 1: a champion like Morob. Who wants the next Morob in Volk,

481
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: they want the next best guy. They want fresh matchups

482
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Speaker 1: to your point, Kenny, and it's like Cory Sanhagen was

483
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Speaker 1: a fresh matchup for Morab. The Pyodrigon matchup does nothing

484
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Speaker 1: for me, right, just because I've seen it. Yeah, Okay,

485
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Speaker 1: I believe in Yodory and I like him as a

486
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Speaker 1: mixed martial artist. But ultimately, no matter who was walking

487
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Speaker 1: through the door against Volk, a new matchup generates a

488
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Speaker 1: ton of excitement, even when you see these grapplers like like,

489
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Speaker 1: look if he and Gary gets the opportunity against Islam hahasha,

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Speaker 1: Let's see if Islam can drive him through the canvas

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Speaker 1: again or if the new match will present anything. So

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Speaker 1: that's where I feel like we're so robbed, Kenny, in

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Speaker 1: terms of these fresh matchups. And that's why John I

494
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Speaker 1: brought up Diego Lopez his name earlier in reference to

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Speaker 1: The Harrison The Harrison Newonest Fight, because there's so much

496
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Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes with Paramount, a lot of

497
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Speaker 1: big billions of dollars know that I think is dictating

498
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Speaker 1: some of this entertainment business where the sport is second

499
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Speaker 1: to that. Kenny you can get in here.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you know, and that's what makes

501
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Speaker 4: fighting so so interesting, right, is the fact that it's

502
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Speaker 4: problem solving at the end of the day, and each

503
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 4: fighter presents a different kind of problem, whether they're a

504
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Speaker 4: grappler or you know, they're coming in with a ton

505
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Speaker 4: of momento and being undefeated. There's all these different types

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Speaker 4: of stories, and I think that, you know, the MMA

507
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 4: fan base loves these new stories, and I don't know

508
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Speaker 4: if they really expected this one. I think this one

509
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Speaker 4: took everyone by surprise. Apparently even took Volkanovski in his

510
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 4: camp by surprise. So yeah, I agree with Jay that

511
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Speaker 4: I think this is what you're saying, Jay, is that

512
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Speaker 4: I think there's some other influence going on besides just

513
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Speaker 4: the UFC matchmaking themselves.

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Speaker 1: Volkanovski wanted to fight in December. Would a follower own

515
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Speaker 1: Murphy Movsiyevloyev. He has certainly tried to promote their candidacy,

516
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Speaker 1: and in terms of his own legacy, certainly to piggyback

517
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Speaker 1: upon what you guys are saying. A win over Diego

518
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Speaker 1: Lopez a second one just really doesn't do nearly what

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Speaker 1: a win over an undefeated Murphy or iv Loev in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, would do. And let me just also say

521
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Speaker 1: real quick like the fact that Diego Lopez is a

522
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Speaker 1: top ten fan favorite in the company and draws in

523
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Speaker 1: Mexico and Brazil. For most of us, we just don't

524
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Speaker 1: want that to play into the MATCHMK.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I just think for Volk right, they definitely dangled

527
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Speaker 1: the Sydney Carrott. These are his own words. They got

528
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: vote all right, Vocal, We're not gonna do December, but

529
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Speaker 1: how are you fighting Sydney in January? And then once Volca,

530
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Sydney, then they reserve the right probably to

531
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: do whatever they want the opponent. Can you imagine Volcal

532
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: was probably pissed and very vocal about that Diego Lopez rematch,

533
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 1: not because he didn't like his chances in the fight,

534
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: because I think he agrees with the MMA masses.

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Speaker 8: You know.

536
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Speaker 1: Anyway, Kenny, I think it's tough when you have at

537
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: welterweight a bevy of worthy contenders and then fight fans

538
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: hear a name like Kamara Usman, who yes, just beat

539
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: Walking Buckley, but doesn't have any sort of elongated winning

540
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: streak given if he does have status as one of

541
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Speaker 1: the best welterweights of all time. Then you look at

542
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: the featherweight division, Diego Lopez is one and one spanning

543
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: his last two right. Yes, I'm talking in part out

544
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: of both sides of my mouth when I talk about

545
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: that Danny Gay fight that he really should not have taken.

546
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: But you know, he's sort of given some guarantee. Hey,

547
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: we need you to headline Nocha UFC against Canelo versus Crawford.

548
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: If you go finish John Lord Silva, you cut the line. Yeah,

549
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: you're Rodriguez seemingly had a promise if he beat Patricio Pittbull.

550
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: Now he's injured, out of the mix. But yeah, I

551
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: don't know, It's just it's a little bit wayward and

552
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: that decision I think, you know, for all of us

553
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: who have passion leading the dance as MMA fans, Kenny, Like,

554
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: there's so many text messages that we're all circulating about dude,

555
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: Like we love Diego Lopez, but feels a little bit

556
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: like malpractice, I know.

557
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 4: And it's tough and to play at Devil's advocate. From

558
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 4: the UFC's perspective and the matchmaker's perspective, Diego was put

559
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 4: in a high pressure spot that night, the same night

560
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 4: as Canelo and Crawford, and he delivered. He more than delivered, right,

561
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 4: I mean that was the fight to watch. As big

562
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: as that boxing fight was, he delivered one of the

563
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 4: most action packed. I was at a soccer game and

564
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 4: I was watching that on my phone, just like absolutely

565
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 4: jumping out of my now. So he delivered on that front.

566
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 4: And the other thing is when Diego Lopez fights, you know,

567
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: he can't fight any other way but be exciting. And

568
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 4: I think that that's another thing. It's like, if we're

569
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 4: trying to guarantee a fight, you know, coming off one

570
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: of the early pay per views, and you want to

571
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 4: deliver action and show why there's so much value to

572
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: being a part of this paramount deal or paying for

573
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 4: the year of the subscription. I mean, you watch that

574
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 4: one fight, You're like, yeah, I made a great deeah.

575
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 4: So it's a tough one man. Again. This is where,

576
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 4: you know, the business side of things comes into the

577
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 4: fight game and you know what, We'll see how it

578
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 4: pans out.

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Speaker 1: For and Jay, there was a top transparent. I love

580
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: it if the promotion could be transparent and get into

581
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: a little of that. If there was any of that there,

582
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: you know, like we're trying to come out with a bang.

583
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: Jago Lopez one of the biggest starts of promotion is

584
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Speaker 1: what it is because Dana doesn't mind running his mouth.

585
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: Go ahead, John, Yeah, No, I think that, Uh, there's

586
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: a lot there. There's just a lot there. Yes, And

587
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't think that Armand Sarigian was necessarily passed over

588
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: because of a stylistic thing. I mean, he's an offensive

589
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: force in all phases of the game. But Diego Lopez

590
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: is absolutely a star. And with the hair flying and

591
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: just going to give you a ton of volumes striking,

592
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: and it's going to be a crazy fight. You know,

593
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: when when Saurikian was unable to fight against and and

594
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: moy Kano got that opportunity, John, I did feel that

595
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: week from you almost like as an extension of the promotion.

596
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Speaker 1: Just the impact of that and the massive impact of that,

597
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Speaker 1: And it was almost not even with your words, it

598
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Speaker 1: was you know, so that I'm not totally surprised by this.

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Speaker 1: I guess I feel his o there somebody. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Cody putting the Chad Ivloyev is gonna turn

601
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Speaker 1: thirty two. It's like I just so much opportunity to

602
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: turn this over and keep this thing super fresh and

603
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: exciting and yeah, man, I don't know. It's it's really

604
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Speaker 1: tough for me to see a guy like Armand just

605
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: just be so dominant and just well, no, he'll yeah.

606
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Speaker 1: I mean, the real tricky thing for him is this

607
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: iliotopuria sideline, because if you're talking earliest you get to

608
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: poti into title defenses this summer, then you're probably talking

609
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: fourth quarter a year from now for Armand's title shot,

610
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: which is insane given how amazing he looks. And I

611
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 1: love watching him eat a sheep's head after a win.

612
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: All right, let's go four wide and welcome in the

613
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: star of the program very long ago.

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Speaker 8: There he is. Hey, Ray, Hey, how are we doing? Guys?

615
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 8: What up?

616
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: Raymond? Better Now? We're better now? Ray that's the theme song, right, Johnny, Yeah,

617
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Speaker 1: that's the I like it.

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Speaker 8: Ray so.

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Speaker 1: Al Jamain Sterling had a lot to say about Diego

620
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Speaker 1: Lopez getting a second crack against Alexander Volkanovski. We've all

621
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: had a lot to say about that. I'd like to

622
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Speaker 1: get your thoughts on movsar Evloyev and Laron Murphy being

623
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: a pastor over in favor of Diego Lopez getting the

624
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: second chance against a fight against the guy who he

625
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: just fought.

626
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, how about that Al Joe sucking up to the

627
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 8: UFC again? Huh yeah, right, I love that he's with

628
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 8: in himself some style points.

629
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: You gotta love him.

630
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 8: You got a Nobody even mentioned the poor guy's name.

631
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 8: I think that's bullshit too. Well, yeah, you know, all right, Wait, well,

632
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 8: what was the thing, Mosa? What was the question?

633
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think I need to ask the question.

634
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: I think you know what's what's going on. I mean,

635
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: Diego Lopez has done a ton for the UFC, right

636
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: that Danny Gay situation he headlined, not ja UFC had

637
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: knocked out john Ford Silva. It's not as though he

638
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: doesn't have a case. But I was just saying, if

639
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: movsarry Offloyev, who beat the guy in twenty twenty three,

640
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: beat Diego Lopez. I know he hasn't fought a lot, right,

641
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: beat your guy, Al Jamaine Sterling. It's like, if you're

642
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: mob star, you can accept. I think Diego getting it

643
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: one time, but now a second time, it's almost like,

644
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I just go become a lawyer. It's

645
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: just not happening for me here. I'm nineteen fucking all.

646
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 8: It's uh, it takes the wind out of your sails

647
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 8: if you're these guys, It really does. Man, until until

648
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 8: something's gonna break, you know what I mean. But you know,

649
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 8: it's almost like it's got to go so far this

650
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 8: way before you do something, you know, like the way

651
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 8: the world works. But uh, it's just I mean, look,

652
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 8: Diego is a great guy. He's got that, you know,

653
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 8: and he's super talented. Uh, and I think he might

654
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 8: beat folk this time, you know what I mean, this

655
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 8: time arrest. But uh, is it fair more than million percent? No?

656
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 8: But what is fair? What is fair today? I don't

657
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 8: I don't know. Like I think the UFC does a

658
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 8: great job of getting you're ready for the world because

659
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 8: things aren't always going to go Yeah, so they beat

660
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 8: it into you right now and that's it. But out look,

661
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 8: al Joe is very practical, he's uh, he's a very

662
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,719
Speaker 8: cerebral guy. And but he's he's he's right, man. I mean,

663
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 8: it's doesn't even make sense. I mean, I mean, I

664
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 8: don't know where you want to go with this.

665
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: Well, no, I just think for a lot of us

666
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: as human beings. The best part of this sport is

667
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: seeing a guy like Larne Murphy. Yeah, go from an

668
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: undefeated prospect now to an undefeated contender. You go do

669
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: that to Aaron Pico and it sort of feels like

670
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: the payoff should be fighting for the world title, and

671
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: let's see what he can do with it. And now

672
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: it seems like maybe he and mops are you haveloyev

673
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: are going to have to fight each other? And yes,

674
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: I guess life is unfair and we can probably just

675
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: stop it down at that. This one just is particularly unique.

676
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: You know, we have a lot of fighters one and

677
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: one in their last two fights fighting for belts, whether

678
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: it's Gae Chee or you know, like I don't even

679
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: want to hear a case against Patty Pimblet honestly from

680
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: Dustin Porier or anybody else, you know, because wins are wins,

681
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: and Kenny, I don't know if you want to get

682
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: in here, Patty Pimlet's have a lot of them successively.

683
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 8: Right.

684
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 4: How much how much of this do you think is

685
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 4: a message to the to the fighters, meaning hey, this

686
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 4: is the this is the fight that we made. Either

687
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 4: be more popular, be more exciting, or you're gonna get

688
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 4: passed over as well.

689
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 8: I think the message is as clear as day. I

690
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 8: think the message is as clear as day. Well, I

691
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 8: mean it's at that part, like what you say, Kenny,

692
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 8: is clear. But I think the other part, they're just

693
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 8: gonna do what they want to do and you can't

694
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 8: do a fucking thing about it, you know what I mean.

695
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 8: That's it, that's really bottom line and not they don't

696
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 8: give a shit. I mean, get McK MAInet on and

697
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 8: let him. You should be asking him this question, or

698
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 8: Sean Shelby the matchmakers, but you know, we have nothing

699
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 8: to do with it except comment after the ship's already

700
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 8: gone south. You know. But none of the stuff made sense.

701
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 8: I can tell you from being in a gym with people.

702
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 8: Everybody nobody was happy about any of the matches, and

703
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 8: you know, these guys are running around like they just made,

704
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 8: you know, something unbelievable. But it's definitely not fair to

705
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 8: a lot of guys. I mean Laron or I mean

706
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 8: even al Joe Aljo and mozart I fight technically was

707
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 8: a torso you know what I mean, you can't there

708
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 8: was no clear clear winner in that fight. It was

709
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 8: I thought it was a great fight.

710
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: Well, right, go ahead, Joe. You know, Kenny, I think

711
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: your point's well taken. I think they are sending a message.

712
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: And a guy like Carlos Pratas who gets on a

713
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: microphone and says, I'm here to fucking entertain I don't

714
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: give a fuck, like I'm willing to get knocked out,

715
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: Like that's what they want. Diego Lopez has some of

716
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: that in him and Bala Mohammad when he lost to

717
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: Jack Dela Madelena Fight of the night, it felt more

718
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: love from the promotion after that loss and when he

719
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: won the bell. That's what they're after. Power slap is entertainment.

720
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: These things where you see these two huge dudes running

721
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: smashing into each other. Whatever the hell that is for

722
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: dirty boxing, that's entertaining. So Dana White is to a

723
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: certain extent ahead of the curve in terms of the

724
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: entertainment gig and a lot of dollars, a lot going on,

725
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, So I get it. I think they are

726
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: sending a message. Keny, whether they.

727
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 4: Get the fight saying I finished fight, I mean, it's

728
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 4: just ridiculous.

729
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 8: Yeah. But Jason, Jason, Jason, they showed Balal love because

730
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 8: he was out of there. You want him there in

731
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 8: the first That's why they liked him. What do you

732
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 8: think they like them for? Hey, if they liked if

733
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 8: they liked them that much, let's see how they're liking them. Now,

734
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 8: give him a shot, do something with them.

735
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: It is interesting though, when you right, like a lot

736
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: of people don't want to hear about al Jamain Sterling's

737
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: candidacy as a featherweight contender, right, but yet somehow his

738
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: case isn't as strong as Kamara Usman's, right, I mean,

739
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: how does that even? You know, it's really interesting, but

740
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: why go ahead?

741
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 8: But just to wrap it up though, they do tell

742
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 8: you they want entertainment, you know what I mean, Like

743
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 8: a guy like Mozart, they don't, you know, they don't

744
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 8: want him to be champion. They just don't. He's not.

745
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 8: He's just not going to be what they're looking for.

746
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 8: That's not their ideal guy. They want, they want blood,

747
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 8: they want. Call those protests. The problem is call those protests.

748
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 8: Will Levey get there and he'll be a you know,

749
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 8: like he's going to get his shot, but you know,

750
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 8: is he going to be the champ? I don't know.

751
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: I think he goes get there. I think Carlos he's

752
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: gonna get that.

753
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 8: I mean, he is entertaining. Who doesn't look to that point?

754
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 8: And I'm I'm gonna flip fluff to that point? Who

755
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 8: doesn't want to see call Thos pridest fight. I mean,

756
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 8: he's an exciting fight. And this whole shtick is is

757
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 8: good so that they're telling you what they want. So

758
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 8: it's not really that bad what they're doing because.

759
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: We're just MMA fans and we have an outlet, right,

760
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: and it's a respectful, good conversation, but conversation that has

761
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: to be had, right. Hey call me soft, right, but

762
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: I I get a lot of joy from seeing, you know,

763
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: these non champions get an opportunity and play and change

764
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: their lives. And you know, I think it does stand

765
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: to reason that that you know, uh Larne or movsar

766
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: like is never is never going to get there because

767
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: of you know, this Lopez circumstances. Maybe no, go ahead, Jay,

768
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: I just feel like the diego Lopez thing might have

769
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: been a necessary evil when you're gonna be broadcasting to

770
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: a brand new audience, the potential to get a bunch

771
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: of brand new fans for good if you will the

772
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: way not unlike the way they captured fans during the pandemic,

773
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: and they're smart enough to realize that the main event

774
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: has to deliver and one way, you know, you can

775
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: do it, Diego.

776
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 8: You know, I'll tell you listen, you can't argue with that.

777
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 4: It's been a proven recipe.

778
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 8: That's like you can't, you can't all you definitely cannot

779
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 8: argue with that. From what Jason just said that that's

780
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 8: that's I'm I'm agreeing one hundred percent with you on that.

781
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 8: And if you're looking to play the odds and what's

782
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 8: going to be like a good fight, yeah, you know

783
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 8: that sort like Kenny said, it has already been proven.

784
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 8: They'll get a good fight out of that, and this

785
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 8: time I think the result will be different.

786
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: And last thing I'll say is just that I do

787
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: think if you had a powerful executive come out and say,

788
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: you know, Diego Lopez has established so much goodwill with

789
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: us that Danny Gay thing was absolutely insane. The or

790
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: take a weight class moving around, and then we needed

791
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: him to do that against John Silva, like with Respet

792
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: back to Larne and his strength of schedule, like this

793
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: is our decision. We have a new television deal and

794
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: you're all going to have to deal with it. But

795
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: I think because we don't get that messaging, and certainly

796
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: they're probably like, you know what, y'all don't necessarily need that.

797
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: But I think for a lot of us, we are

798
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: just sort of reacting to the news. Jay, do you

799
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: have anything else? I mean, we can certainly keep you

800
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: if you're available. Now, yeah, keep me. I mean, I

801
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: got right, all right, So you're going to be heading

802
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: to Las Vegas here in short order to corner Marob

803
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: Dwalash Willie. It has been the year of Mirab, and

804
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: I would even think for the Longo family when you

805
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: have an athlete, a UFC champion, this has never happened before.

806
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: Defend the belt four times in a year for you,

807
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: right when you're reflective upon your twenty twenty five, it's

808
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: been the year of Mirab for you. I mean, it's

809
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable what this man is trying to accomplish. And

810
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: you'll be right there alongside that.

811
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 8: Listen, the guy's amazing. I mean, here's what the hiss

812
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 8: a going to be Mara's from, because I mean, I'm

813
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 8: assuming he's going to have a really good fight at

814
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 8: this point, I mean or you know, the first fight

815
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 8: was so dominant. I just don't know what corrections the

816
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 8: other guys could make. I don't care what injuries he had.

817
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 8: But their problem is going to be when he wants

818
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 8: to fight four times next year, who they going to

819
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 8: give him? Who they going to They say they love it,

820
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 8: they love it when a guy wants to fight, who

821
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 8: they going to give them? John next year, give me

822
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 8: four guys.

823
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: Well, Umar and her Magha Madov has a fight now

824
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: against Davison Figuretto, right, so if Umar wins that fight,

825
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: I do think a rematch between Marob and Umar at

826
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: the White House makes sense, and Umar clearly strategically is

827
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: trying to get one in to potentially set up that scenario.

828
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: You know, Mario Bautista is going to have to work

829
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: his way back. I do think that he could pose

830
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: some sort of threat, but without the rankings in front

831
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: of me, I don't have an obvious name on the

832
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: tip of my tongue. I mean, they're a guy who

833
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: could move weight classes.

834
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 8: Not right now, but I'm saying, isn't it crazy though

835
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 8: that this guy he's run out of people to fight

836
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 8: he really has, right, It's.

837
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: So interesting how few champions can actually have ever lay

838
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: claim to have coming remotely close to cleaning out a division.

839
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: And yet yeah, maybe fights Algiam Maine Sterling can make

840
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: thirty five or they don't want to.

841
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, song, you dog taken on O'Malley. If you can

842
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: get by O'Malley, then maybe you get a friend.

843
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but.

844
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to see some rematches from Robie. He's

845
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 4: gonna keep the same schedule. It's gonna be the same faces.

846
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that to bring Patchy mix in that

847
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 1: certainly didn't work work out. Well, you know, he ain't

848
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: contending anytime soon, and they.

849
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 8: Think they were hoping on that big time too.

850
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: You know, there's got to be a name at thirty

851
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: five that we are not thinking of that is on

852
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: some sort of winning streak that means something, right, But

853
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna be for us. But yeah, your point is wealthy.

854
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, but anyway, the guy, the guy's amazing. I don't

855
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 8: see the guy slowing down.

856
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, he should fight Vulcan, but there

857
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: are people there in the way, including his teammate al

858
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: Jamaine Sterling. All Right, So Cody with an exclamation point

859
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: as punctuation points to Aimons a hobby. He seems less

860
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: excited about Holony Barcelos, lock Dog, vensius O la Vera.

861
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: You know, Peyton Talbot's an interesting name because we'll see

862
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: what happens this weekend. But I'm just telling you, man,

863
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: that kid's responsiveness to his loss to Howney Barcelos against

864
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: Felipe Lima was the stuff of legends. But yeah, ray

865
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: you've essentially cleaned out a division. But I think Peodi

866
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: Yadd's more live than you think this weekend.

867
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 8: Now, wow, yoh, what's the what's the.

868
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: Why, Raymond, it's fucking wide. Yeah, he's more live, he's

869
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: more well, he isn't he's more live until he isn't.

870
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: And Morob in the middle of the second round is

871
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: by the broadcasting booth smiling because he forgets that he's

872
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: not at like training practice bro like.

873
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 8: And yeah again, you know, it's all a Jason, It's

874
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 8: all the same to him training, you know, because his

875
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 8: life is training like that. When he's not training, he's

876
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 8: wrestling one of his friends.

877
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: And ray you've alluded he's gotten better, he's improving, he's

878
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: gotten better, like he's a better overall mixed martial artist.

879
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: I wish pyod Yan all the best this weekend, John

880
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: hey Man, we'll see Kenny and I just watched the

881
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: first fight back and it's not as though we found

882
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: two rounds for pyod Yan. But I think there's a

883
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: lot to work on, right. I think the issue lies

884
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: in this superhuman tendency of Marob to never stop in

885
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: a sport that physiologically, Kenny would seem to make you

886
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: think you got to take a blow at some point.

887
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it looked like peoter Jan was just looking

888
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 4: for his opportunities and just give me the ball once,

889
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 4: please just cast the ball AND's like, nah, I'm not

890
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: giving you the ball, bro. He just stayed on him,

891
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 4: never gave him an opportunity to create any kind of offense.

892
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 4: It's insane his level of cardio and pressure.

893
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, and Kenny, I gotta tell you, here's the difference too.

894
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 8: That was still at a point where he was still

895
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 8: coming in his own yeah right, he was still playing

896
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 8: it safe. He wanted to get to the title shot.

897
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 8: He wasn't he wasn't going to take no chances this time.

898
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 8: He might take some chances and just strangle them, you

899
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 8: know what I mean, Like you don't know what's going

900
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 8: to happen. But that first fight, I could tell you

901
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 8: he was still you know, like the Aldo fights. He's

902
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 8: not stupid morole, very intelligent, go out, no intelligent guy.

903
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 8: He knew what he had to do to get there.

904
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 8: You know, he had to be dominant, but he wasn't

905
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 8: still not the guy he is today because today the

906
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 8: confidence and the consistency and the activity is unbelievable. And

907
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 8: that's the difference in the fight.

908
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 1: You know, to me, you know Kenny, you talk about

909
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: him not allowing Pyodreon to get in the game, and

910
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of an ancient conversation to have when we're

911
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: talking about all these strikers like Protest and Diego Lopez.

912
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: Even I know he can grapple, but get these opportunities.

913
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: You look at hamsuch am I of putting duplicity in

914
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: a spot where Nope, you can't do anything right. And

915
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: you see the same thing with Islam and Jack Delamottelaine

916
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: and like, give me all of this dominant, drive the

917
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: guy through the mat and just you know, you're you

918
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: go down an alley to kill someone and you're not

919
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: gonna do anything. You're gonna be in the pavement all night.

920
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: So to me, I've started to really enjoy all of this.

921
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: So I can't wait to see Morob try to be

922
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: dominant once again.

923
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 4: John, here's your favorite work, John, here's your favorite word.

924
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 4: He neutered him.

925
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: Oh he didn't spade him. I mean I don't know

926
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: what he used, right, yeh, fucking spade. But no, I

927
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: think you still are under crediting or not. Like Morob,

928
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: striking is really really good. And so for Pyodrian, I

929
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: do believe he's going to manage risk in a little

930
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: bit of a different way and engage in some of

931
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: that firefight with Marob because no, he was very defensively

932
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: responsible with Pieldrian in that first fight. Yeah, and that's

933
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: what Kenny's sort of talking about. It's like, there's no

934
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: opportunity to reset's defense. It's defense, defense, it down, it's up.

935
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: It's so in this second fight, I think when the

936
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: Rob is striking, and again I'm a fucking rob is striking, right,

937
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: Like every time he goes back to the corner, Ray

938
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 1: you oftentimes will just say one thing, Hey, just be mindful,

939
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: that fucking right. And I just believe that Pyotr Yann

940
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: if he's more aggressive when Rob is striking. Yeah, he

941
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: can create a moment that could change the complexion dangerous.

942
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 8: No question about it. You're you're one hundred percent on

943
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 8: those Those moments are fleeting though, man, I god know

944
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 8: that we're talking milliseconds. You know, he's not gonna I'll

945
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 8: tell you, if Rob feels something, he'll just go back

946
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 8: to doing what he did the first fight. You know,

947
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 8: if he feels like this, like this is getting a

948
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 8: little gris there is what's going to stop him from

949
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 8: doing that? That's the problem. Like, yeah, he'd have to

950
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 8: get him out of there with one big shot. I

951
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 8: don't I just don't see it happening. But you're right though,

952
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 8: I think he's got the confidence now. Yeah, I think

953
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 8: it's gonna be worse for him.

954
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: You know, bis Bisbing made a comment. I think about

955
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: Waldo Acostas whatever, Cortez and just about how and you're

956
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: fighting that often and you just it's almost like there's

957
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: no time to get nervous, and that I think for

958
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: a Rob is such an advantage where it's just like rinseashed, repeat.

959
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, like the idea that you know,

960
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: the weight cut is different than ever, everything's just different

961
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: than everybody else.

962
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 4: And all the stuff that he's experienced. He knows what

963
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 4: it's like to be hurt and have to come back.

964
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 4: I mean, we all remember his fight against uh right

965
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 4: Rise exactly, Like you know, he has seen so much

966
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 4: at this point that like he's used to it. He's

967
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 4: used to it all, Kenny, And it is true.

968
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 8: He's going to do ten rounds the day of that

969
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 8: fight like before, to fight, like it's just NonStop. Like though,

970
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 8: I don't know, like it's I just think he looks

971
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 8: at fighting differently, like he enjoys it so much. It's

972
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 8: just not I don't even think it's fighting, it's just

973
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 8: playing at this point, Like he doesn't. He's got a

974
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 8: different mindset that I've never seen before.

975
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: He's on a trajectory to be the greatest of all time.

976
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: But when you fight this often in a work that

977
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 1: is a game of inches, you are playing with fire.

978
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 8: That look you zig when you should have zagged. Yeah,

979
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 8: it doesn't go good. Look, that's the story of Emma.

980
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 8: That's what people love about Mma is exactly that. Butter

981
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 8: is dangerous.

982
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 4: To create offense. He's very dangerous.

983
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kenny, and I just found that when we watched it. Back.

984
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: It just it was defense and defense down, defense and defense,

985
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: and you just don't have a minute to sort of

986
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: and then if you're a thinking man's fighter, right, which

987
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: he is, I mean he fights on instinct too. But

988
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: you know, there was a time where Podriyam was roundly

989
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: criticized early in his career for sort of playing with

990
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: his food. I mean, forget, you can't even say you

991
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: set the table, clear the table, sit at the fucking table,

992
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: get off the bench, and nothing with morobits. It's really

993
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: not you know, that first fight was his.

994
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 8: By the fifth round, and that guy just wanted to

995
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 8: go home.

996
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: Just if I'm as hobby, I am moving my assault

997
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: bike next to my bed, putting a Versa climber next

998
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: to my wife's side of the bed. I mean, I

999
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: don't know if you're aiming or one of these guys

1000
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: like what what are you? I mean you have to

1001
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what, I don't know, don't.

1002
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 8: Tell you don't speak A speaker. Name is Zabi. He

1003
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 8: just reminded me. Thank god I did. I had a

1004
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 8: kid come in from Canada do a seminar at the

1005
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 8: Jim Kenny Jonathan Devello. I just want to shout out

1006
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 8: him the Angelo really beautiful people, beautiful people. But he

1007
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 8: does fall with Zahabby at the beginning of the camps.

1008
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 8: But you could ask Game and how this kid striking is.

1009
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 8: It's on point. I'd love to and John, I'd love

1010
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 8: to get him on the show. I think you'd fall

1011
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 8: in love with the kid. He's the last of a

1012
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 8: dying breed. He's the one champion. He's fighting ty guys

1013
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 8: everyone and the Yeah, really awesome, awesome guy. And uh,

1014
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 8: all his fights were on the regional circle with me

1015
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 8: and lou Neglia. They were all done in at the

1016
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 8: Capital in the city and you know the ring. Yeah,

1017
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 8: he's the kids. Really you got to look at him.

1018
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 8: He's he's super talented. And again, just shout out to

1019
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 8: those guys. They did a great job. Everybody loved it.

1020
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 8: And must you really loved to get him?

1021
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: No, hey man, I mean, if you want your wife

1022
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: on the show, pull your wife on. I shall put

1023
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 1: anybody on the show. You don't have to ask me.

1024
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: You did make a nice transition for me.

1025
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 8: Oh nice, go ahead, what do you got?

1026
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: Nazim Sadakov's pro debut ring at sixty six back in

1027
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, Right, I wasn't the.

1028
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 8: Only fighter was the only fight he wasn't with us?

1029
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 8: Was his Oh no, no, sorry, pro debut. I remember that. Yeah, okay,

1030
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 8: he lost as an amate I'm sorry.

1031
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: So no, his pro debut in twelve eighteen Ring of

1032
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: Combat sixty six he got submitted by Wan Galarza. It

1033
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: was Wan's a lone pro fight. Were you not there?

1034
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't there that one? About that?

1035
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 8: No, he hasn't. He hasn't lost since he's been with

1036
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 8: uh Sara Lango.

1037
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: Right, so well, okay, so, uh maybe not a great

1038
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: question from me then, Right, so I was going to

1039
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: ask you about that night because he hasn't lost since,

1040
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: and uh, here's your guy this weekend fighting. Uh Foresiam,

1041
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: the French kids won five in row? What are your thoughts?

1042
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 8: Very excited and looks Nazim's super talented. H I found

1043
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 8: out yesterday was the underdog. I find that a little

1044
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 8: hard to believe. But uh, I think Nazim. I just

1045
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 8: think Nazem's better everywhere. And if he isn't, you know, look,

1046
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 8: he's another guy that he wants exciting fights. I mean

1047
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 8: they have to look this guy because yeah, he puts

1048
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 8: himself right now, and he's not told. I don't think

1049
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 8: John wood tells him to do that. I know I

1050
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 8: definitely tell him not to do that. But uh, he's

1051
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 8: he's super exciting, he's got good whiskers, and uh he

1052
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 8: could do it. So I think there's a really good fight.

1053
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 8: I don't like again, why he's the underdog. Hopefully we'll

1054
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 8: prove those people.

1055
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if he closes as the underdog.

1056
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: I found that to be a little bit puzzling as well.

1057
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 8: I mean he's been he has been finishing guys too.

1058
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: So hey, I don't want to go ahead, Jake, No,

1059
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: I have a wideman tour his fucking bicep. Now he

1060
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: can't fight. Uh, sila right, and Tyren Woodley gets the nod.

1061
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 8: It's so goodly, that's unbelievable. It's awesome. But yeah, no, no,

1062
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 8: he tore his bicep and sparring and he had the surgery.

1063
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 8: He's feeling good and uh yeah.

1064
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: What's that, John? You pissed about?

1065
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 4: What's that?

1066
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: John? You pissed?

1067
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 8: No?

1068
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: Not all right. I have a quotation I would like

1069
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: to read you boys if I could. Is from the

1070
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: Greatest wealth weight of all time. In my mind George

1071
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: Rush Saint Pierre speaking with Aiden Ross on Kick in

1072
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: reference to Islami Kashev's performance against Jack Atta Atlanta. I

1073
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: was there. I should have Kenny read this in George

1074
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: Saint Pierre's accent, But I was there. I witnessed his

1075
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 1: performance last Saturday. It was freaking brilliant, unbelievable. I don't

1076
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: even think he took a punch. It is unbelievable. A

1077
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: lot of people, oh was a decision, People who say

1078
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: that I'm sorry because they don't know the art of fighting.

1079
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: They have no idea, they don't understand the art of fighting.

1080
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: His performance was freaking amazing. Yeah, if it was not

1081
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: a flawless victory with a crazy submission or knockout, but

1082
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: the way going up a weight class and beating Jack

1083
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: Dela Matta Leana like that he did is freaking hard.

1084
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: And Kenny, I guess I'll lead with you.

1085
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 8: Right.

1086
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: Certainly you can talk about what Kamza Chimai have did

1087
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: against Dreecus du plus c, right, but what Islam did

1088
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: in going up a weight class to Jack like that

1089
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: is really legendary and otherworldly. And as we talk about

1090
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: Morob Dwalash Willie being on this trajectory to be the

1091
00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: greatest of all time, so as fucking as yet, my chef, Kenny.

1092
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 4: John, that is a very good point, my friend, I agree,

1093
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 4: I listen. I think he's absolutely right. He knows right.

1094
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 4: You to become a dominant champion in any any of

1095
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 4: those divisions one fifty five, one seventy, where you know

1096
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 4: the common man lies, the average man, right, that's where

1097
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 4: the most amount of people are. That so you're you're

1098
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 4: talking about a much larger talent pool. So just to

1099
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 4: get to the top of the mountain there is impressive.

1100
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 4: But then to say, all right, let me go up

1101
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 4: away class and challenge myself and see what those guys

1102
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 4: are about, and to do that yet again, and then

1103
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 4: to do that in dominant fashion, Yeah, I mean it's

1104
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 4: hard to dispute that is La Maha chef just continues

1105
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 4: to impress. And again, now you look at his other

1106
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 4: competition in that in that division, you're kind of thinking, well,

1107
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 4: who the hell is going to be that guy at

1108
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 4: one seventy.

1109
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 8: That's crazy. That's a really good point, just.

1110
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: Insane, big, right, We're not just moving up ten pounds,

1111
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 1: moving up fifteen pounds. It is interesting when you think

1112
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: about Islam and Morob and what they are doing and

1113
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: just assaulting the record books and chasing down Anderson Silva

1114
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: and Morob trying to make history this weekend. But when

1115
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: you think about a guy to beat Islam, a lot

1116
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: of people land on Shavcott Rock Monov. You know, if

1117
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: you had to send one guy in there, I might

1118
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: go with the ECUADORI and Michael Morales. Maybe it's Carlos Protests.

1119
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Iam Shadowgary. I think, as Kenny mentioned, you know,

1120
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: but how's your dog Lucky Ray.

1121
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 8: Luck?

1122
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: He's getting old boy save Lucky's life. Potentially you got

1123
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: to pick which welterweight's gonna beat Islam. I mean you

1124
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: can drop a Michael Venim page, honest, you can drop

1125
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: a Gabriel Bond theme. I think for me though, right,

1126
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: if somebody said, like, I just bought my daughter a

1127
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: Gerbil or a hamster, what's the smaller one? A Gerbil

1128
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: fucking hamster? Anyway, they live like three years in my

1129
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: boring you Trio five. So if somebody was like, hey,

1130
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 1: you know, if you don't correctly predict who has the best,

1131
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: you know beats Islam? You know, I don't know if

1132
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: it's anybody for me, probably be shofcutt Morales, but I

1133
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: might just go with some of the unknowns with Morales

1134
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: and go with him. You know what do you think, Ray?

1135
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 8: I think I'd rather go with shof Cut over Morales

1136
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 8: to win that fight.

1137
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: And Kenny probably a shadow Gary over those guys.

1138
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 8: Still.

1139
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, i'd believe see with Shafcott out of the picture.

1140
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 4: That's why I didn't pick shoff cut. But uh, don't

1141
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 4: pick any Gary because you'll you'll take a lot of

1142
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 4: crap for that Ray.

1143
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 8: Guy. Yeah, that was a popular imitate him. He says,

1144
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 8: if you're not wrestling, if you're not there practicing, you're wrestling.

1145
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 4: You know what you Yeah, No, I do think Shafcott

1146
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 4: is one of those guys that he's got the knockout power.

1147
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 4: He's absolutely massive at one hundred and seventy pounds. We

1148
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 4: know he can wrestle, but you know what his in

1149
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 4: I don't know when when is he going to be back.

1150
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 4: I don't know exactly. I think he's a few months

1151
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 4: away still. But yeah, yeah, but he's one of those

1152
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 4: guys that definitely I would I would have him as

1153
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 4: a front runner for sure.

1154
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 8: Hey, listen, I'm going to go with Shavcat, but I

1155
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 8: gotta say this, The fact that we're even talking like

1156
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 8: this shows you how good his life is that we

1157
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 8: have to eat him, like start thinking who's going to

1158
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 8: beat him at a weight Cliss he moved up to.

1159
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 4: And John to your point, Morales has the I don't

1160
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 4: give a fuck factory. It's just like he doesn't care

1161
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 4: who's in front of him, and he's just he's not reckless,

1162
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 4: but he is. He has that little bit of wild

1163
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 4: where he's going to try to knock you out and

1164
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 4: he's not going to respect you for anything. Like everything

1165
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 4: he throws, he's trying to knock you out. He doesn't

1166
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 4: care if he's trying to take him down, like he

1167
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 4: knows how to establish range. He's huge for the weight class.

1168
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 4: And yeah, I think he's another one of those guys

1169
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 4: that you know he's a guy. If you're looking for

1170
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 4: someone to stop him, then yeah, Morales in shop cut

1171
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 4: will be the dudes you.

1172
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: Know the physical transformation that Isla Mahash have made, you

1173
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: know on the Anna Florian podcast. I think I picked

1174
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: Jack Dela ma Atalina early in the week because of

1175
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: I thought he was just gonna physically be too much

1176
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: for Islam. And I saw one image of Islam and

1177
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: heard about that he was using creating for the first

1178
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: time ever. And then you hear about the grip strength stuff.

1179
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's just it's unbelievable the way we're talking

1180
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: about it. But Kenny, like you talk about Morales, how

1181
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: do you handicap a fight with Morales and Jack Dela Mattelaine.

1182
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting. You know, we haven't seen enough of Morales.

1183
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 4: That's kind of why I want to see more of him.

1184
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 4: But from the things that we've seen, I mean, he

1185
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 4: made he made Brady like look like he was making

1186
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 4: his UC debut. So I think that between those two,

1187
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 4: I think Morales is probably the more powerful striker and

1188
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 4: Jack is the slicker striker. So I could see either

1189
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 4: one of those guys. It can go either way. I

1190
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 4: think that Morales is maybe more physically impressive when it

1191
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 4: comes to probably stopping the takedowns, and he's a little

1192
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 4: bit more sort of in the way that like he's like,

1193
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 4: I'm not letting you into this fighters at all, or

1194
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 4: Jack kind of entertains that a little bit he plays

1195
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 4: on that line, or Morales is like no I'm not

1196
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 4: giving you anything, but.

1197
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 8: Jack that Jack is by far the more dominant, not dominant.

1198
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 8: He's the clearer technical striker. Yeah, the other guy is

1199
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 8: still looping his punches. Look, I think he's going to

1200
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 8: be that guy that's going to work for him because

1201
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 8: he doesn't give his ship and he must he must

1202
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 8: hit hard. But Jack is way more technical than that.

1203
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. And Morales is not a striker by trade. You're right.

1204
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, And if and if he plays that game with

1205
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 8: Della mont Lane, he'll I believe he'll get knocked out

1206
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 8: with that, or he'll get tooled up anyway.

1207
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: But and Cody did remind me earlier I said kamar

1208
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: Usman had the best chance to beat Islam. So I'm

1209
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: all over the joint.

1210
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 8: Look, I like them. I think that's a great fight.

1211
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Raymond, Yes, anything else, I'm going to see you

1212
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. I'm very excited. Maybe we can actually

1213
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: break Brett if you're not too busy. Oh, or if

1214
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: John's not full of ship one or the other.

1215
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 4: John's a hurtan he does.

1216
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 8: He does make these empty promises every so often.

1217
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, when do you get to town?

1218
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 8: What are we doing? There's no tenth flow. We're not

1219
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 8: doing any appearances.

1220
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: When do you get to town Raymond Wednesday? All right? So, uh,

1221
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: would you like to have dinner on me Wednesday night?

1222
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: Or do you arrive too late?

1223
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 8: No, dinner's perfect.

1224
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: When do you arrive like two thirty three? And make

1225
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 1: sure this happens Mike Jones, you can clip this up. Okay,

1226
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: may feel free to text me. I'll make a reservation

1227
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: for us and uh, you know, maybe I'll make the

1228
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 1: reservation for four, but just you know, keep me honest.

1229
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 8: Don't know.

1230
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 1: Hey, man, I got this fucking guy and this fucking guy.

1231
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 8: Can it's just gonna be me, It's gonna be you.

1232
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so if a party of two, it could just

1233
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: be me and you. You don't need your wallet, although

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Speaker 1: you don't need my wallet anything you want to.

1235
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Speaker 4: Taco bell dude?

1236
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. I was gonna say, come to this

1237
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: room fucking room service, you know what I.

1238
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 4: Mean, because that's my y.

1239
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we love you. Uh, I will see. We're gonna

1240
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: Wednesday night. Yeah, We're gonna have dinner Wednesday night. You

1241
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: know it's gonna be like, hey, is it all right?

1242
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: If Sarah comes?

1243
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 8: What do you put? Do you fly out? When you

1244
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 8: don't now, j f K you do?

1245
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: Are you flying Delta Wednesday? All right, of course, Oh

1246
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: come on, we're on the same right. I'm gonna French

1247
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: kiss you at the airport, but we gotta let you go.

1248
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: You guys are on the same flight. That's hilarious. Ray

1249
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: long ago there for Nazim Satakov and Ray will be

1250
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: there of course from a Rob Dwallish Willie.

1251
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 4: Ray's not sitting in first class. Let's be you.

1252
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: You guys, Jay, do you have something I always have?

1253
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: I got all much. I can talk about Islam all

1254
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: day and you talk about Matt Sarah, right, he would

1255
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: make that dinner so different, amazing in so many ways.

1256
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: You're talking about one name you draw, Matt Sarah. Gosh,

1257
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: he's entertaining that guy, you know, all right, back to

1258
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Speaker 1: final thoughts on what we were just discussing. Am I

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Speaker 1: free to move on? Jay? I know you got a

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Speaker 1: lot of goals in the chambers, like ste ball, right

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Speaker 1: with ste ball, All the balls are right there, you know, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot, yeah, lott a lot.

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Speaker 8: Serious.

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Speaker 1: This guy's so fucking serious. I know Kemflo's back hurts

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Speaker 1: so serious. Let's go move it along, Move it along,

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Speaker 1: all right. Pronunciation of the week that is brought to

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Speaker 1: always interesting because we've by saying Yoanna Young Jichek will

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Speaker 1: tell us that Americans can't even make the same sounds

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Speaker 1: with our mouths genetically. This Polish fighter makes his UFC

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Speaker 1: debu at UFC three twenty three. BJJ brown belt black

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Speaker 1: belt Judo nickname Rudy, twenty six year old light heavyweight

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Speaker 1: earned his contract on Dana White's Contender series back in September.

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Speaker 1: This weekend, he fights Ebo Aslan. First name here, Kenny

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Speaker 1: is I WO last name b A R A n

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Speaker 1: I E w ski ken flow. Your Mike is hot?

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Speaker 1: How do you pronounce this name?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Very hot. So the way I see the w's is

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Speaker 4: like I try to remind myself, I see two vs

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Speaker 4: instead of a W. So uh evo baron Berenyevsky, evo Baronyevsky.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's hear the fight evil.

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Speaker 4: It's more like evil kind of.

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Speaker 1: So Yeah, I mean I think you got it. I

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Speaker 1: think your second stab at the surname got it done.

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Speaker 1: But it's almost like the w am the f together

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Speaker 1: is the sound that we can't make. So if you

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Speaker 1: can picture me voicing this fight, Jay, are we boring you? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: He doesn't give a ship you know right.

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Speaker 1: It's like Total Wireless is sponsoring the pronunciation of the

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Speaker 1: week and you're well know, and Kenny gets it right,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, well, I guess on the fucking second

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Speaker 1: time you said it, I got it. But the second

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Speaker 1: fucking syllable, Yeah, go ahead tell him and tell him

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Speaker 1: why he didn't really nail it.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, kill it solid, show you want the

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Speaker 4: background music?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, can you keep that going for a little bit?

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Speaker 1: How's the volume volumes?

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Speaker 8: Good?

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Speaker 1: So maybe as soon as next week, depending on our

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Speaker 1: producer's bandwidth. But Cody came up with this song, so

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Speaker 1: he'll have no problem.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: He found it for Annik versus Annack. But what else

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Speaker 1: The crown is yours, big gun.

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Speaker 4: This dude I saw was going to change and go.

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Speaker 7: You know what?

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Speaker 1: Fuck it? Yes, I love it. Jay. You can leave

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Speaker 1: at any time. I try to send you a message

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Speaker 1: in the chat. We love your You can kick me out.

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Speaker 1: I just got to say what's up BP with brother

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Speaker 1: mister New York John.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Miss all right, Jay, I'll keep you for another twenty

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Speaker 1: minutes if that's okay. I think you're additive today.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think you're aw so brih.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know exactly how to attack this fight card

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Speaker 1: right because of the relative depth to it. So I'm

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Speaker 1: curious on your MMA takes podcast a card like UFC

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Speaker 1: three twenty three, I don't know. Forgive my ignorance perhaps

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Speaker 1: you break down every single fight on the card, but

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Speaker 1: you know a fight like Jalen Turner Edson Barbosa is

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Speaker 1: going to happen in an empty team Obile arena. Will

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Speaker 1: you be breaking down that fight on your podcast or now?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: We we we go from bottom the top, we do

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Speaker 9: every fight. So yeah, so we touch everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, stupid question, John, No such things A stupid question.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well let's get into it. And Jay, if

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Speaker 1: you have any thoughts on the back end on any

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Speaker 1: of these, we might take them, we might not. But

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Speaker 1: this is an early prelimit lightweight and Jalen Turner, perhaps

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Speaker 1: to the surprise of some, is back minus two ninety

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Speaker 1: the favorite here against Edson Junior Barba, who is plus

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Speaker 1: two thirty five. So great retirement for Turner as in

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Speaker 1: less than nine months. Bry submitted by Ignaciobamans at UFC

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Speaker 1: three thirteen in March and laid down the gloves and

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Speaker 1: that dropped it back to seven and six in the UFC.

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Speaker 1: And he's found religion and Christ and now he is

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Speaker 1: back and he draws the thirty one time UFC veteran

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Speaker 1: Edsen Barbosa. How do you see this one going down? BP?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I wish I could a bet on Turner coming back.

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Speaker 9: It was a frustration retirement. I mean he's been grinding.

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Speaker 9: He fought a striker in Bahamundez and got submitted, and

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Speaker 9: he was like, fuck this, I'm done because before that

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Speaker 9: he got smothered by Mulcondo. But the guy's a real

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Speaker 9: deal striker. He's long length, he has power. I mean

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Speaker 9: the Bobby Green knockout is still stuck in mind. That

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Speaker 9: was violent in Edson Barboza. I mean, eventually the wheels

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Speaker 9: are going to fall off, right. This guy's an incredible shape.

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Speaker 9: I mean he's ripped his shit. I don't know where

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Speaker 9: he cuts the weight to make the weight, but he does.

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Speaker 9: But I just see Turner being a little more refreshed,

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Speaker 9: a little more longer, and more powerful than nets. And

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Speaker 9: Edson takes a lot of shots, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 9: And that Murphy fight, he took my two hundred and

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Speaker 9: twenty seven shots. You can't take down many against Jalen

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Speaker 9: Turner because he's full of power. I like Jalen Turner

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Speaker 9: to come back and make a nice little win here.

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Speaker 1: Barboza has eighteen UFC wins. Kenny ten time Fight of

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Speaker 1: the Night participant. This is second fight back at lightweight

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Speaker 1: after an eight fight stint at featherweight. Last lightweight win

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Speaker 1: for Barbosa twenty eighteen against Dan Hooker in Milwaukee. He's

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Speaker 1: plus two to thirty five this weekend Ken Flow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and two talented guys going at it. Of course,

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Speaker 4: Barbosa been in the game a lot longer. Jalen Turner

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Speaker 4: a fresher guy here would I love the fact that

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Speaker 4: he's coming back. I think he's got a ton of talent,

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Speaker 4: absolutely massive for the weight class, and I think that's

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Speaker 4: what he needs to use in this fight. Use that power,

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Speaker 4: use that size advantage, keep Barbosa guessing from the outside.

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Speaker 4: I don't see this turning into too much of a

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Speaker 4: grappling fight. I think if there's one guy who can

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Speaker 4: might maybe initiate it, it's maybe Turner try to put

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Speaker 4: Barbosa on his back. But I like Turner in this

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Speaker 4: in this spot as well. Your numbers a little high,

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Speaker 4: but gim me Jayalen Turner. I hope he does well.

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Speaker 4: Man all right.

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Speaker 1: Next prelimit midweight former world title challenger Marvin Vatory minus

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Speaker 1: one eighteen Bruno Fajita minus one h two roster pretty

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Speaker 1: deep when you're trotting out a fight of this magnitude

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Speaker 1: this early on, Fajita two straight wins by submission might

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Speaker 1: be able to make a run here BP, at the

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Speaker 1: very least competing for Victori's number fourteen ranking at middleweight

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Speaker 1: this weekend.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Fajitas, really he's to be a one round fighter.

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Speaker 9: You know, he's been proving that, and now he's stepping

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Speaker 9: up and showing some good submission skills, still getting guys

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Speaker 9: out there early. I want to see him go three.

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Speaker 9: Inventori's gonna take him three. You don't finish, blockhead Marvin Vttory,

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Speaker 9: that guy's gonna be there for full fifteen. He ain't

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Speaker 9: going nowhere. Impossible knockout, impossible submit. I see the Tory

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Speaker 9: probably just putting more volume on him and be in

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Speaker 9: the more seasoned vetting there and winning a three round decision,

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Speaker 9: near classic Marven Vatory style. I like the low number

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Speaker 9: two at minus one eighteen. I think that's a really

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Speaker 9: good part of a piece out there for getting nice

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Speaker 9: little juice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kenny Victory is still only thirty four to Fajites

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Speaker 1: thirty three. Allen's out of Sanni. As many of you

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Speaker 1: know for the title in twenty twenty one lost that

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Speaker 1: fight two and four. Since I still think Marvin Vittoria

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Speaker 1: gets retained by the promotion, Kenny if he loses this

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Speaker 1: fight with Ruld be four in a row. But needless

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Speaker 1: to say, a big spot for the Italian Kenny.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely the Italian cement blog versus the Brazilian fire

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Speaker 4: hydrant here, this should be interesting. Both these guys are

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Speaker 4: going to be throwing bombs. I think it's going to

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Speaker 4: be very entertaining while it lasts, or if it does

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Speaker 4: go the distance. I think I wouldn't be surprised that

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Speaker 4: either guy gets the win. But I'm leaning towards the

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Speaker 4: Brazilian here. I think I think he's a little bit

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Speaker 4: more durable. I worry about Victori's last few fights where

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Speaker 4: he's been dinged up a whole lot, and yes, he

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Speaker 4: still is very durable, but at what point does he

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Speaker 4: lose that chin Fajita is a guy who can definitely

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Speaker 4: put you out. I think Victory doesn't quite have that

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Speaker 4: same level of power, but he does have persistence, he

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Speaker 4: does have experience and conditioning. But I'm gonna lean the

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Speaker 4: way of the Brazilian.

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Speaker 1: Give me Fajita here, Bruno Fajeda right now minus one

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Speaker 1: h two on DraftKings Sports book, Jay, I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: you fly. I'm gonna get you out of here with

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Speaker 1: our question of the week of the two championship underdogs,

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Speaker 1: and Jay is going to be in the building for

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Speaker 1: UFC three twenty three. I believe this weekend Kyodriana is

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Speaker 1: plus three twenty and Joshua Van is plus two hundred.

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Speaker 1: J Who has the better chance to spring the upset

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Speaker 1: this weekend? Definitely Joshua Van. I love the Van hands,

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Speaker 1: I love that opportunity for him, But the idea that

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Speaker 1: I would ever go to the window against Aleschandre Pantosia,

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Speaker 1: who I think maybe has the chin to walk through

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Speaker 1: some of that power. So I go there to answer

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Speaker 1: your question because I don't see Morob losing in my lifetime.

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Speaker 1: At one thirty five. Nicely done at Boston, and appreciate

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Speaker 1: you if you want to hop back in for place

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Speaker 1: your bets you can't otherwise, have a great rest of

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Speaker 1: your money. Good luck boys. Thank so many different Mini

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Speaker 1: Van references right Like, I mean, Kenny and I were

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Speaker 1: sort of joking about Joshua Van and vanned down by

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Speaker 1: the river and look at it, Fid, look at it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at slide inside this side lateral movement

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Speaker 1: like the slide door on a mini van, you know,

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Speaker 1: like Toyota, Sienna out here, fucking Honda Odyssey's your town

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Speaker 1: and countries. I mean, oh gosh, all right, let's move

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Speaker 1: it along.

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Speaker 8: Shall we.

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Speaker 1: We talked earlier Brian about Pharaoh Zeon minus one thirty

1482
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: five Nasim Sadakov plus one fourteen. You know, Ziom looked

1483
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: a little bit lost early in his UFC career when

1484
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:25,719
Speaker 1: he was two and two, but now all of a sudden,

1485
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: with the length and the frame and the multifaceted skill set,

1486
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: he's won five in a row at fifty five, both

1487
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: men on the cusp of a top fifteen rank. And

1488
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 1: I would think you're gonna pick against Longo's guy or what.

1489
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, Zim guy brought Let's be honest, them guy brought

1490
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 9: back because they wereone in France.

1491
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 4: They're like, we need a Frenchman in this cart.

1492
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 9: This kid's good, right, and he's won five and he's like, no,

1493
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 9: I belong here.

1494
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 4: And now he's won five. He's really improved his grappling.

1495
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 9: He had four takedowns on Mike Davis, who's a solid prospect,

1496
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 9: and you look really good. You shut Mike Davis down

1497
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 9: to nine. Mike Davis, I think he tried eleven takedowns,

1498
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 9: but you got my guy, Nas. And I'm a big

1499
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 9: fan of NOAs I'm always you know my regardless of

1500
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 9: the longo guy situation.

1501
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 4: I love his skill set. I love what he brings.

1502
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 9: I love his toughness. I love his size as well.

1503
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 9: I think he's a really good, well built fifty five.

1504
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 9: He's going against a tall, lanky guy, but Zim has

1505
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 9: been clipped before in the feet. I know he comes

1506
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 9: from a kickboxing background, but it's not really power. It's

1507
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 9: more it's more pressure and speed, and now he wants

1508
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 9: to grap one. I think Nas has proven in the

1509
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 9: Terrence McKinney fight he can also grapple a little bit

1510
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 9: as well. But plus money has me wanting to place

1511
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 9: everything I own right now because the line's going to move.

1512
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 9: I'm trying to be mature about it, but I like

1513
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 9: Nas big in this fight here. I think he looks

1514
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:32,759
Speaker 9: really good against zum.

1515
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: Kenaflow Sadakov thirty one years of age, eleven to one

1516
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: and one as a pro. We mentioned the pro debut

1517
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: lost perfect since largely four to zero to one in

1518
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: the UFC slightly the dog to Zem this weekend.

1519
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 4: This is going to be a badass fight.

1520
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 8: Man.

1521
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 4: Zim can do a lot of different things with his striking.

1522
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 4: As Brian said, he really has improved himself as a

1523
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 4: grappler and he's a finisher too. You gotta watch out,

1524
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 4: especially in that clinch, him being the taller guy getting

1525
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 4: that tie clinch with knees, and of course Vervola found

1526
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 4: out about that, and I think there's gonna be a

1527
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 4: little bit of revenge on the mind of Nazine Partakov

1528
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,720
Speaker 4: because of that, which I think is an interesting part

1529
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 4: of the story. So Nas has to watch his p's

1530
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 4: and q's, especially in tight he's got to attack the

1531
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 4: body and get that tie clinch away from Faraz. But yeah,

1532
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 4: gimme Nas as well. I think he's gonna be the

1533
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 4: slicker boxer. I think if he could be smart and

1534
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 4: not let Forrees get off to a good start, I

1535
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 4: think that's where Nas Nas can get control of the fight,

1536
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,799
Speaker 4: neither win by decision or maybe even get a stoppage.

1537
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be the heavier hitter when

1538
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 4: it comes to boxing. But yeah, gimme nas man.

1539
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: Nicely done on the late prelim breakdown, gentlemen, we move

1540
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: along to another of these prelims that is a big

1541
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: fight in the flyweight division for the ladies. Fifth rank

1542
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 1: Macy Barbara modus one ninety two, number Ninekarini Silva plus

1543
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: one sixty Brian Barbera hasn't fought in a long time,

1544
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: nearly two years, right first quarter twenty twenty four, the

1545
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: win over Caitlin Sermonara. It was six in a row.

1546
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: The health struggles have intervened since she's still just twenty

1547
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: seven and trying to resume her ascent to the positive

1548
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 1: here against the thirty two year old Cerany Silva BP.

1549
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 9: Go ahead, Yeah, someone with with with a seizear issue.

1550
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 9: I believe she was having some type of seizures and

1551
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 9: they couldn't figure out why. I have had that issue

1552
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 9: early in my life as well, and luckily I got

1553
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 9: to figure it out. So hopefully she has it figured

1554
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,560
Speaker 9: out because she's she's one of the most watched, in

1555
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 9: my opinion, should be most watched females in the in

1556
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 9: the UFC.

1557
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 4: I mean, she's a run on a six in the row.

1558
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 9: She's nasty, she's mean in there, right, and I like

1559
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 9: her in this spot here as long as she's truly healthy.

1560
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 9: Hopefully this isn't I'm taking the fighters and need a

1561
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 9: couple extra bucks or I need some moneysau on funn

1562
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 9: in a while. Hopefully this is I don't want to

1563
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 9: get back in there and win. Silvia's only lost once

1564
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 9: in the UFC. Kind of a dud performance, but she

1565
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 9: hasn't really have the resume. But she's looked good at

1566
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 9: who they put her against. That's all you can do,

1567
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 9: is you look good against who they put you against.

1568
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 9: And I think Silva had some ways to win here,

1569
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 9: maybe a decision if Maycy slows.

1570
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 4: Down or is not ready.

1571
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 9: But I think Macy with the grappling in or striking

1572
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 9: and just overall bad bitchness, if I can say that, Joe, Yeah,

1573
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 9: I think she gets is done here. I think she

1574
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 9: looks really good as long as she's healthy, and we're

1575
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 9: hoping she's healthy for more than numerous reasons.

1576
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the women's game. You can certainly say

1577
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: that Macy Barber minus one ninety two Karini Silva plus

1578
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: one sixty Kenny as she tries to move to six

1579
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: and one of the UFCN end of the top five

1580
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:17,799
Speaker 1: go ahead.

1581
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 4: Ah, you think you know chicks.

1582
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 1: I know chicks.

1583
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 4: Bro chick off would be kidd No. Yeah, I don't

1584
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 4: know if I know chicks, but I will say this,

1585
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 4: I'm excited for this fight. I think it's gonna be exciting.

1586
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 4: I think Karene Silva Karini Silva is going to be

1587
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 4: the slicker fighter overall, but I'm not sure she's gonna

1588
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 4: like that pressure for Macy Barber. Macy Barber does not quit.

1589
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 4: Similar to the man in the main event, Morob Duwala Zavili,

1590
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 4: she is NonStop pressure and she actually tends to get

1591
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 4: better if she gets bloodied up or gets hit. So

1592
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 4: for me, that's what I'm looking for. You know, when

1593
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 4: I see a fight that's this close, I'm looking for

1594
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 4: someone that I know is not gonna go away easily,

1595
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 4: and I think that person is Macy Barber. I don't

1596
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 4: think Kariney Silva is going to like that pressure. When

1597
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 4: things get difficult, Barber gets better and I think Silva

1598
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 4: gets a little worse. So to me, that's going to

1599
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 4: be the difference. Give me barb bys all.

1600
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 1: Right, continuing on with our live UFC three twenty three preview,

1601
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 1: we get to the feature of Prevelment lightweight Grant Dawson

1602
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: minus two eighteen Manuel Torres plus one point eighty Brian.

1603
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: We've talked about Grant Dawson stylistically, a nightmare matchup for

1604
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. Two to one favorite here

1605
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 1: or so against Manuel Torres, who is four and one

1606
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: of the UFC with as many knockouts. Four of them

1607
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: only got to get him thus far. Of course, was

1608
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: na cho its spear last year. Pretty fascinating matchup. Bp'd

1609
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 1: he have a strong lean either way.

1610
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 9: I don't this is one of the tougher ones to

1611
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 9: pick because I don't know if Dan grand Dawson should

1612
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 9: be this high. He looked really good in his last

1613
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 9: fight against Thegojanda, but you look at the Bobby Green

1614
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 9: fight with the JAD that put him down his burning

1615
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 9: my man. I know we all have off nights, we're

1616
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 9: all there, but grand Dawson is a specialist. He wants

1617
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 9: to get you down and beat up. And Manual Tours

1618
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 9: is a big thick kid with the ill power and

1619
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 9: he's got some good wins at Chris Duncan win where

1620
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 9: he's Smitkers Duncan and agent Great Chris Chis Dunton. Chris

1621
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 9: Duncan's been on a run Sincent. So you're hanging plus

1622
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 9: one eighty on a kid that's really coming up. I

1623
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 9: want to take it, but I'm not gonna. I'm gon

1624
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 9: gonna fall for the trap. I'm gonna stay levelheaded. I'm

1625
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 9: gonna go grand Dawson. I think grand Dawson, with his

1626
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 9: grappling abilities go really frustrate Torrezoh but if Torres, if

1627
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 9: you want to play Tours or whatever I play in

1628
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 9: my knockout, I wouldn't touch anything else knockout or bus

1629
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 9: or Torres. But I do think grand Dawson's gonna use

1630
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 9: what he has with his wrestling grappling frustrate Tours, maybe

1631
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 9: get a submission in there.

1632
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 4: I'll go Dawson.

1633
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1634
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: An apologies to Chris Duncan and Terrence McKinney, whose fight

1635
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: we do not have time to break down today. VP

1636
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: will break down if evor living daylights out of it. Yeah,

1637
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: I podcast Ken Flow. Grant Dawson minus two eighteen, Manuel

1638
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 1: Torres plus one eighty. Dawson is twenty three two and

1639
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: one is a pro eleven one and one in the UFC,

1640
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 1: three straight wins since the King Green set back, does

1641
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: he make it for this weekend?

1642
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 4: I think this fight's pretty straightforward. I think you have

1643
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 4: the grappling of Grant Dawson going against the very dangerous

1644
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 4: striking of Torres. U Taurus can knock out Grant Dawson.

1645
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 4: Dawson's gotta be careful and we know he can't be

1646
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,560
Speaker 4: knocked out, but I think Austin's grappling is going to

1647
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 4: be on another level. Torres got some grappling himself, but

1648
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 4: not on the level of Dawson. Dawson's control. His ability

1649
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 4: to keep you pin to the matt and make your

1650
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 4: life a living hell, I think is gonna be the

1651
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 4: difference here. Not to mention, I think he's got some

1652
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 4: decent subs as well. So give me Grant Dawson all right.

1653
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,759
Speaker 1: Main card opener a light heavyweight the division's former champion,

1654
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: Bohovich minus won thirty five. Bog Don Guskov is plus

1655
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 1: one fourteen. Guscove getting this chance after winning four in

1656
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: a row, stopping Kida Kurilov in round one. That was

1657
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: at a fight night back in July. Deep end of

1658
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: the pool. Is he ready to swim VP? How do

1659
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: you see a plan out?

1660
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1661
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 9: I don't know, yam Belhovich. You he's getting up there

1662
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 9: in age, he's coming off with injury, but he's still

1663
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 9: just a brick house in there. I mean, the only

1664
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 9: guy that's ever put him out was Tiago Santos. Like

1665
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 9: he's taken shots from the best in the vision and

1666
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 9: he's still there. I know the Polish powers what he says,

1667
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 9: the Polish chant as we needs me talking about uh,

1668
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 9: you know. And he really knows how to chip away

1669
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 9: at people. His leg kicks are under radied. It's not

1670
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 9: like the prettiest in the world. But look what he

1671
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 9: did against Anklaive. He kicked off Anklaia's legs. He can

1672
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 9: chip away at people and win decisions. I don't really

1673
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 9: know if the power of the finishing building is there anymore,

1674
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 9: but I do think he can finish Bogdof he gets

1675
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 9: to the ground. Bog dogs look pretty good. He's tired

1676
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 9: in the past. His resume is getting better. The knockout

1677
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 9: in Nikita Kirilov was huge for me, but Nikila Kiloff

1678
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 9: got knocked out after that, so I think the chin

1679
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,719
Speaker 9: might be going for Nikita. So give me yoam Blohova,

1680
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:28,640
Speaker 9: chack a low number, give me the experience, give me

1681
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 9: the man who's in his forties. And again, another nice

1682
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 9: little parlay piece I might tie into something. Give me Yamblohovich.

1683
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: And I love when Pp combines the first and last

1684
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: names bog Don Guskov and calls him bog Dov or whatever.

1685
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: I love it.

1686
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a little character trade. I have John, how

1687
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 9: many people can pull it off that time?

1688
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Can't flow. Yabohovich one of my personal favorites on

1689
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 1: the roster. He will be forty three in February, return

1690
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 1: from that extended layoff, and March's lost the unanimous decision

1691
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 1: to Carlos Alberg. This would be his first win since

1692
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: May of twenty twenty two. Does he get it?

1693
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 4: Yeah? European Anthony Smith taking on Yon Bohovich. This should

1694
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 4: be a This should be an interesting one.

1695
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 8: Man.

1696
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 4: I think that Behovid still has it. Man. I think

1697
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 4: it's hard to discount all of that experience that he has,

1698
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 4: and for me, I don't know if it's this simple. However,

1699
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 4: he has to be careful in round one, but not

1700
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 4: timid in round one because Kuzgoff will take advantage of that,

1701
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 4: and I think that's where a goose golf is going

1702
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 4: to be most dangerous as well. I think if Bohovich

1703
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 4: can get him into rounds two and three, that's where

1704
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 4: he can start to take over, get into his rhythm

1705
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,600
Speaker 4: and chip away uh and maybe get him down to

1706
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 4: the ground. That's where he'll have a huge advantage. So

1707
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 4: Bohovich has more ways to win. Give me Behovich here,

1708
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 4: I think he gets it done all right.

1709
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 1: Next up at bantamweight. Busy year for Peyton Talbot continues

1710
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: here in the bantamweight division. He's minus two eighty five.

1711
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 1: Henry Shudo is plus two thirty thirty eight years of age.

1712
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 1: His last win bry Domina Cruz in twenty twenty, so

1713
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 1: prize fighting at this point in time. Talbot on the

1714
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: brick of contention at twenty seven. Huge win for him

1715
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: last time out against Felipe Lehman. Tries to put a

1716
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 1: strong capstone here on his twenty twenty five How do

1717
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 1: you see it going down at one thirty five on

1718
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 1: the main cart.

1719
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, when this f I can announce, I threw a

1720
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 9: little pause like huh, and then you realize that Henry

1721
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 9: hasn't won one in a while, and he needs to get.

1722
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 4: Back to the drawing board if he wants to win.

1723
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 9: You he retired, came back, came in hot, loss, was

1724
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 9: split to Aljo, and then just hasn't won since he

1725
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 9: came back. You know, the premature retirement I think really

1726
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 9: kind of messed everything up, obviously with the shoulder stuff.

1727
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 9: But he went oh for eight and his takedowns is

1728
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 9: his last fight against Song. You don't oh for eight.

1729
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,759
Speaker 9: If I'm Henry Suhudo and I'm watching that Hanni Barcelo's

1730
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 9: fight looking at Honey landed eight takedowns on Peyton Tabo.

1731
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 4: Won the fight.

1732
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 9: That's all I'm doing is wrestling. He's Olympic gold medals wrestling.

1733
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 4: You gotta do that.

1734
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 9: You're gonna be the guy with the shorter reach, maybe

1735
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 9: not as fast as you think you will against a

1736
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 9: guy like Peyton Tabbot who's timing and reached his phenomenal

1737
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 9: on the feet. He puts it together. Not a huge

1738
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 9: volume guy, but he picked his shots really well. And

1739
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 9: then Suhudo just gonna have to wrestle. He's not the

1740
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 9: grappler that other guys are, like Barcelos, who threatens with submissions.

1741
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 9: He's gonna take guys down and beat him up. That's

1742
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 9: the one thing I don't understand what these Olympic gold

1743
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 9: medicines Like, Why did have Ben Asker just become like

1744
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 9: just insane submission specialist?

1745
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 1: He never did.

1746
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 9: These These guys really need to la lean in jiu jitsu.

1747
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 9: And I see he doesn't have jiu jitsu. But it's like,

1748
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 9: you could take so many people down, Just take next

1749
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 9: if you want it. But the real reason I'm gonna

1750
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:28,080
Speaker 9: pick Henry Sudo here and I'm regretting it already as

1751
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 9: i'm saying it, but Or plus two thirty is really hot,

1752
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 9: and I do think he's gonna come out and wrestle

1753
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 9: his backs against the wall.

1754
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 4: When his backs against the wall, Henry Pseudo wins.

1755
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 8: Right.

1756
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 9: This guy's a double champ in two different way classes.

1757
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 9: Got his leg kicked, he got that nerve kicked against

1758
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 9: the Metz. Johnson was fighting most of that fight with

1759
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 9: one foot. Still won the fight, Olympic gold medalist. I'm

1760
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 9: gonna arrivee with him one more time here, and I'm

1761
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 9: glad we're getting a good number. I'm okay losing if

1762
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 9: it's as good of a number, but I think he's

1763
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 9: gonna wrestle Peyton Talbot. If not, this is Peyton Tablets

1764
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 9: come out party, uh and uh and and I'm looking

1765
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 9: forward to it. But either way, I'm a sad for

1766
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 9: this fight. It should be interesting.

1767
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: Kenny. I think Sohudo is going to have to be

1768
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 1: pretty precise over fifteen minutes to avoid some of what

1769
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: Talbot brings at the table. How do you see this

1770
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 1: going down as Talbot minus two eighty five so Hudo

1771
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: plus two to thirty.

1772
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. You know, Brian talked about Henry s Hudo going

1773
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 4: back to the drawing board. He needs to go back

1774
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 4: to his wrestling. Okay, he needs to go back to

1775
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 4: what where his strength lies. And I didn't see any

1776
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 4: of that against song Ya Dong. You know, it seemed

1777
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 4: like he was dead set on really trying to strike

1778
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 4: with him for the most part, and it seemed like

1779
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 4: he was thrown off his rhythm. Now, I don't know

1780
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 4: if there was some other injuries going on or whatever.

1781
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 4: Are those injuries still there? I don't know. But if

1782
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 4: he decides to trade with a longer Peyton Talbot, a

1783
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 4: guy who knows how to find that chin, I think

1784
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 4: you can find himself in big trouble. And there's also

1785
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 4: talk about this being maybe Henry Suhudo's last fight. I

1786
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 4: would think, if this is your last fight, that you

1787
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 4: want to go out on a win by any means necessary.

1788
01:26:56,160 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 4: And Sudo is so damn tough. I think maybe sometimes

1789
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 4: he decides to kind of play the game of his opponent,

1790
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 4: and he can't do that here. He really can't. He's

1791
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 4: got to mix up. He can't just go for takedowns.

1792
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 4: He's got to set them up properly and get good control.

1793
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 4: Now here's the other problem with that is Henry sometimes

1794
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 4: will get these takedowns, but then lose control of those

1795
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 4: takedowns so allow his guys to get back to his feet.

1796
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 4: Talbot is too damn dangerous. He's he's a true sniper.

1797
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 4: So I'm really mixed on this. I've been going back

1798
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 4: and forth on this one. I think that the value

1799
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 4: on Talbot is a little bit too high. I do

1800
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 4: think there's some good good value on Suhudo as the

1801
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,560
Speaker 4: underdog here, So I'm gonna go with Suhudo here, But

1802
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 4: it really depends on what Suhudo shows up. He's got

1803
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 4: to fight smart, he's got to be healthy. If he

1804
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 4: does that and executes, I'll take suhudo.

1805
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 1: And you just don't know what Henry's training camp has held, right,

1806
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: You just don't know. I mean, he says he feels great,

1807
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 1: but you just don't know.

1808
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 4: He was sorry.

1809
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 9: He was on his early he said on his podcast

1810
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 9: or tomorrow, at the start of this training camp, he

1811
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 9: was getting beat up and he's like, I don't have

1812
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 9: it anymore, and like he was just like real open

1813
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 9: and honest and raw. And I really respected that because

1814
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 9: that sometimes happens. You don't really hear that from high

1815
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:13,760
Speaker 9: level guys like that. Like sometimes training camp you start

1816
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 9: off and you're getting the shit kicked out of it,

1817
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 9: and you're like, I need, I need. This is gonna

1818
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 9: make me better. So that's cool. At Suhudo kind of

1819
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 9: opened the door and saw that because we see the bitsuhudo,

1820
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 9: the pelo suhudo, and it's cool seeing the real suhudo.

1821
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 1: Well it speaks to time away though, Yeah, you know

1822
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: so all right, future out of Flyweight on pay per view.

1823
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 1: Tats who wrote Tyra minus one forty two Brandon Moreno

1824
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: plus one twenty Tyra's still just twenty five bry He'll

1825
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: be twenty six in January seven to one of the UFC,

1826
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: the lone loss, of course, to Brandon Royvall, who said

1827
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: after beating him the Tyra would be the champion one day.

1828
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: Now he draws the remarkably still just thirty one year

1829
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 1: old former two time undisputed flyweight champ Random Moreno. First

1830
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: three round fight for Morenos since COVID in twenty twenty,

1831
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: a span of nine fights. BP big fight here at

1832
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five pounds, it takes it.

1833
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, I love this fight. I think you know they're

1834
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 9: both gonna even out in their striking. I think they're

1835
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 9: both Their striking is pretty good. Uh, maybe a slight

1836
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 9: lean towards Brandon Moreno. But man, the grappling, the exchanges,

1837
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 9: the scrambles are gonna be insane here. Both these guys

1838
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 9: are high level grapplers. I know Tyra loves to take

1839
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 9: the back, wants to get your back at all costs,

1840
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 9: and Moreno is a guy that's really slippery on the ground.

1841
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 9: He comes from jiu jitsu base. That's where he like

1842
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 9: his His first martial arts was jiu jitsu. So it's

1843
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 9: really gonna be interesting on the ground because they're going

1844
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:29,560
Speaker 9: to hit the ground at some point, and it's like,

1845
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 9: who's gonna be better, Who's going to get the edg

1846
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 9: Who's going to do this? And I'm gonna lean Tyra.

1847
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 9: I just think Tyra's a little smoother on the ground.

1848
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 9: I mean that could be completely wrong. They could be

1849
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 9: standing up and bang it up. I didn't think Tyra's

1850
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 9: a little bit smoother on the ground here. I like Tyra.

1851
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,839
Speaker 9: I think his his controls a little bit better than Moreno,

1852
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:45,600
Speaker 9: but it's gonna be tough sledding from the to do.

1853
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 4: This is a former champion who took some time off.

1854
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:49,639
Speaker 4: I think he kind of like semi retired.

1855
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 9: It's like I need a break. Since that break's been back,

1856
01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:53,799
Speaker 9: he's looked really good. He's laying a lot of volumen

1857
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 9: is strike in his punches, or a lot of volumen

1858
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 9: is in his fights, and h it looks like he's

1859
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 9: no worse forever, more refreshed and I love this matchup

1860
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:03,719
Speaker 9: for both guys. I'm gonna go Tyra. Minus one forty

1861
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 9: two is a little scary for me. I was hoping

1862
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 9: we'll get this a little more even hopefully by the

1863
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 9: end of the week. It is, but give me touchs

1864
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:09,719
Speaker 9: and retirement.

1865
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great fight, Kenny and betting line I

1866
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,680
Speaker 1: think shows you just how close potentially it could be.

1867
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 1: I think Moreno's in a great place and for him,

1868
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 1: you know last scheduled three rounder Brandon Roy Paul UFC

1869
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 1: two fifty five. Excited to see what Moreno can potentially

1870
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 1: do as an underdog with these fifteen minutes. I know

1871
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 1: you know Brandon, well, Kenny, go ahead.

1872
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 4: John, I love this fight. Tyra is an absolute dynamo

1873
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 4: when it comes to taking the back. And what's interesting

1874
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 4: about this one, and again I'm biased here. The last

1875
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 4: time I saw Brandon, I actually ran the session for

1876
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 4: those guys. What did I teach? I actually taught taught

1877
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 4: back escapes. So I think he's gonna have to use

1878
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 4: that or use some kind of back escape here against Tyra,

1879
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,680
Speaker 4: who's so good at taking the back and finishing the

1880
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 4: rear naked choke. So really curious to see how Moreno

1881
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 4: prepares for this. The other thing that I got a

1882
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 4: chance to see is how Moreno prepares for his opponents,

1883
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 4: Like he really does his homework. He's a martial artist,

1884
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 4: he's very humble, he gets the right guys in camps,

1885
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 4: He respects his opponents and prepares appropriately, and and Tyra,

1886
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 4: I think he's got a ton of potential and could

1887
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 4: definitely win this fight. But I think Morano's preparation, especially

1888
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,760
Speaker 4: where he's at right now and how he's developed his

1889
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 4: striking and overall mixed martial arts game, it's gonna be

1890
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 4: really difficult to beat someone like Brandon Morano. Again, maybe

1891
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 4: this is my bias speaking, but give me Brandon Moreno nice?

1892
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 4: All right?

1893
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: Right back to Kempflow on the co main event for

1894
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 1: the undisputed Men's Flyway title A La Chandre Pantoja Monus

1895
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: two forty five Joshua Van plus two hundred fifth title

1896
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: defense already for the otherworldly cannibalistic a La Chandre Pantosa.

1897
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 1: You think he's gonna let some Japanese guy come in

1898
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 1: there and take his belt? What about a guy from

1899
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: me and Mark Ken follow That would be Joshua Van,

1900
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 1: who turned twenty four on October tenth, trying to become

1901
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 1: one of the youngest champions of UFC history. Five straight wins,

1902
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 1: all of them on numbered cards, by the way, for

1903
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 1: Joshua Van, have served to earn him the number one

1904
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 1: contender status and the title shot ken flow. What do

1905
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 1: you think he does with it against the Brazilian Pantosia?

1906
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 8: Man?

1907
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 4: It no matter from Miama Stylus, does he? Madam man,

1908
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go out there do what I drew. I'm

1909
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 4: the best now, listen. I like Pantosa Man. This guy

1910
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 4: he is. He fights like a wild man, but he

1911
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:38,879
Speaker 4: is so damn technical. Be careful getting in those grappling

1912
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:42,919
Speaker 4: exchanges because he is so damn slick. And he's absolutely

1913
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 4: playing chess against a lot of guys who are playing

1914
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 4: checkers with him. Has accrued so much experience at this point.

1915
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,839
Speaker 4: He's so confident, has a ton of great training partners,

1916
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 4: prepares extremely well, and just.

1917
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 8: Knows what to do.

1918
01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:00,080
Speaker 4: Who's gonna beat someone like Pantosia? I don't know, but

1919
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 4: it might be someone like Joshua Van because it takes

1920
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,640
Speaker 4: a guy who almost is not gonna respect you. It

1921
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 4: takes a guy who's gonna have some knockout power on

1922
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 4: his feet. It takes a guy who's gonna be on

1923
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 4: a different level when it comes to athleticism. Joshua Van

1924
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:20,040
Speaker 4: has that. So this is really intriguing fight. I think

1925
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:23,839
Speaker 4: it's really fascinating. Not to mention the age of Joshua Van. Sometimes,

1926
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:27,919
Speaker 4: you know, not being so experienced helps. You know, ignorance

1927
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,600
Speaker 4: is bliss to a certain extent. And Joshua Van, you know,

1928
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,639
Speaker 4: in his last fight against Rouville, he did not act

1929
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 4: like he was, you know, overwhelmed by the moment. And

1930
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,640
Speaker 4: those are the kind of guys that you need. Like,

1931
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 4: you can't go in there thinking that you're fighting the

1932
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 4: Great Pantosia. You have to go in there thinking like

1933
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 4: you're fighting a guy that's just gonna get knocked out

1934
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 4: like everybody else. I think Joshua Van is probably seeing

1935
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 4: it that way and that is going to help him.

1936
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:56,639
Speaker 4: Do not give any respect to Pantoja. However, Pantoja does

1937
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,800
Speaker 4: require a lot of respect. I think his grapplings on

1938
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 4: a different level. I think his ability to put it

1939
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 4: all together, his speed is phenomenal to watch. But he's

1940
01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 4: gonna have to be careful with Joshua Van, and he

1941
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 4: can't allow Van to get a whole lot of momentum

1942
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 4: in this fight. Pantosa is very good at that. Gimme Pantoja.

1943
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 4: I think if he's able to take the back, I

1944
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 4: don't think Van is gonna be able to get back

1945
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 4: to his feet when Pantoja has his opportunity, he kills.

1946
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: So gimme Pantoja nicely done, ken flow Pantosa minus two

1947
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: forty five and plus two hundred VP the floor jrs.

1948
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, youth is a wonderful thing. I mean he went

1949
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 9: tot to or rovol and won of the fights of

1950
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 9: the year. Most guys will leave on a stretcher. He

1951
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:40,599
Speaker 9: goes back out and sits in the crowd and stairs

1952
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 9: off with Pantoja Like this dude on Jordan Odah. He's like,

1953
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 9: I'm gonna I'm gonna fight this guy. I don't give

1954
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 9: a fuck after that war. I love that mentality. He's

1955
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:50,680
Speaker 9: twenty four years old, just turned twenty four in October. Yeah,

1956
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 9: you know, so we're on the press officier like John

1957
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 9: Jones territories. This guy like the John Jones all one

1958
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 9: twenty five. Is he the young guy that's gonna be

1959
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 9: a killer?

1960
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 1: He might be.

1961
01:34:57,960 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 4: He's looked fucking good.

1962
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 9: His only real blemish Charles Johnson, where he I think

1963
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 9: was over confident fad In not fighting, got caught. That's

1964
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 9: gonna happen to you, learning lesson. He has a lost

1965
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 9: since in. He's looked phenomenal, but he got Pantoja, who

1966
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 9: I think is the most unherolded guy in the UFC,

1967
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 9: not even just his division. In the UFC doesn't get

1968
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 9: talked about enough. They'll throw anybody in there. Yeah, sure,

1969
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 9: let's go, you know what I mean? Like, the guy

1970
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 9: will fight, and he has a style to be anybody.

1971
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 9: He's a style to finish anybody as well. He can

1972
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 9: finish you on the feet. He's got a chin, he's

1973
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 9: all action. You feel like he's getting tied in a

1974
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 9: five round fight, he finds a second or third win

1975
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 9: wherever the hell that comes from. Yeah, the dude's special, right,

1976
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 9: he really really is. And you look back at Joshua

1977
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 9: Bands was lost before the FC got real naked choked.

1978
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:37,680
Speaker 9: That was back in twenty twenty one, so yeah, it

1979
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 9: was four years ago. But also he's just been rattling

1980
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 9: off wins. That's not that long ago. But where's the

1981
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 9: back defense now? I'm sure he's spent all camp doing it,

1982
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 9: but Pantoja is a master doing it. I like the

1983
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 9: low number, I mean minus two forty eight, two forty five,

1984
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 9: where we're getting that right now? I love that, And

1985
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 9: I love Pantoja by sub here, I love Joshua band,

1986
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:01,480
Speaker 9: he's a stud, he's young Man's gonna for the title again, guaranteed.

1987
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 9: But right now, I think it's just Pentosia's just too

1988
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:05,600
Speaker 9: much right now, and.

1989
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 1: It just is so fun having a champion who really

1990
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 1: fights like a bat out of hell, and also having

1991
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 1: a champion who's a rear naked choke guy, because there

1992
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 1: are perilous moments so early right against the back, it's like,

1993
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: oh gosh. So we'll see how it plays out a

1994
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 1: little bit more wide in the championship made event can

1995
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 1: flow as morob Dwallace Willy tries to do what no

1996
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 1: champion has done previously, successfully defend the title four times

1997
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 1: in a Coulenter year. He is the minus four to

1998
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 1: ten betting favorite to do so against a familiar foe,

1999
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 1: pyodr Yan, who is plus three twenty. Can't flow. Who

2000
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 1: do you like in the main event?

2001
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 4: You know, pyodr Yan has has so much offense if

2002
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 4: you allow it, He's got a lot of different tools

2003
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 4: with which he can knock you out. He also, I

2004
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 4: think has a very underrated grappling game. You know, John,

2005
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 4: we mentioned it already. We saw this fight not too

2006
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 4: long ago, and I was really impressed with pyoter Yan's defense. However,

2007
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 4: defense does not win you the fight, especially when you

2008
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 4: have a war old wind in front of you and

2009
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 4: Morob duwalash Vielly. You know, this Georgian Tasmanian devil who

2010
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 4: never allows you to create any offense. He doesn't give

2011
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 4: you room to breathe, he doesn't give you room to move.

2012
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:15,879
Speaker 4: And I see a lot of that same thing happening

2013
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 4: yet again. The key thing for peot Yawn is he

2014
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 4: has to make those moments count. He's only gonna have

2015
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 4: a few of them. He's got to make that come

2016
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 4: in the form of a flying knee or something where

2017
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 4: he can catch Morob on the you know, as he

2018
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 4: comes in, or you know, he needs to get Morob

2019
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,759
Speaker 4: to maybe extend himself and catch him on a counter.

2020
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 4: And and that's not going to be easy. Morob doesn't

2021
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 4: make a whole lot of mistakes. He's not perfect, but

2022
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 4: he doesn't make a whole lot of mistakes. And if

2023
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 4: he does make a mistake, he gets right back in

2024
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 4: the game. He doesn't let things face him. So beating guy,

2025
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,640
Speaker 4: a guy like Morob dwalash Pheelly right now is not

2026
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 4: an easy task. He's only gotten better. It's like with

2027
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 4: every fight, he just accrues more and more power force,

2028
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 4: And I don't know, man, I think jan is dangerous.

2029
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 4: It's not out of the realm of possibility. I think

2030
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 4: also it does help when when you get when you're

2031
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 4: in there and you've experienced that hell against Morob Duolisheley

2032
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 4: for twenty five minutes. But I think those are also

2033
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 4: the kind of things that just allow Morob to be

2034
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 4: that much more confident as he moves through this title

2035
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 4: fight yet again. So I'm not picking against Morob Duolish

2036
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 4: Philly anytime soon. However, you know, that's a lot of

2037
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 4: training time, that's a lot of championship camps in twenty

2038
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 4: twenty five. Has that taken its toll on Morob Duwallish

2039
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:41,640
Speaker 4: Pheley at this point? It remains to be seen. But

2040
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 4: give me Morob Dulish Phelly all.

2041
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: Right, Kenflo has got to see it to believe it.

2042
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:46,479
Speaker 1: Bep who you're lik in the main event?

2043
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, Kenny hit all the great points that I was

2044
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 9: going to make, and at some point Morob is going

2045
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:51,040
Speaker 9: to slow down.

2046
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 4: I mean, what world are we living in?

2047
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:53,519
Speaker 8: It? Right?

2048
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 9: I mean he might actually be a superhuman, but uh,

2049
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 9: this is in the fight where he slows down. I

2050
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 9: rewatched the first fight with these guys like you did

2051
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:03,560
Speaker 9: several times, and Yan was really defensive minded and he

2052
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 9: did really good job. But yes, he got taken down

2053
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 9: eleven times, but he got up so many times. He

2054
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 9: defended thirty eight of him as well. And that's the

2055
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 9: thing with Morob is now he's starting to kind of

2056
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 9: open it up more on the ground, more ground and pound,

2057
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,599
Speaker 9: more submission attempts more, He's going for it more. He's

2058
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 9: being more aggressive. He said on himself, I'm looking for finishes.

2059
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 9: I'm going after the finish. So I think he's gonna

2060
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 9: open up a little more against John. If y'all wants

2061
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:24,679
Speaker 9: to win this fight, he's gonna have to hit something.

2062
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 9: He's gonna make you have to cut him. He's gonna

2063
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 9: have to get.

2064
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 4: Nasty in there.

2065
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 9: He's gonna have to take his perfect defense that he

2066
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 9: has away. He tries to find perfect shots. He starts slow.

2067
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 9: You need to kind of abandon that enough to land

2068
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:38,519
Speaker 9: something hot, like a knee, like an elbow inside, like

2069
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 9: a perfect time punch. That might need not even be enough,

2070
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 9: but that's kind of how you're at because you're not

2071
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 9: gonna stop the takedowns, and if you are, you're not

2072
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 9: stopping all of them, right. I like Morob in this spot.

2073
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:49,760
Speaker 9: I don't I don't know anybody that's gonna be picking

2074
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:52,640
Speaker 9: against Morob anytime soon. He's a special, special fighter, and

2075
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:55,679
Speaker 9: I think he's go out there and get it done.

2076
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 9: Decision wise. I don't think he's gonna finish on but

2077
01:39:57,439 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 9: it's gonna be an impressive fight.

2078
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 1: You guys have three thousand dollars to spend in your

2079
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,680
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2084
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:20,719
Speaker 1: yet again. Beg you all right, So Brian Petrie's deficit

2085
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 1: is north of nine thousand dollars, right, So here's your

2086
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 1: opportunity with three thousand dollars to potentially track down ken

2087
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 1: flow over the final two weeks. Certainly you have one

2088
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for that UFC fight night coming up later

2089
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 1: this month. But I know the magnitude of this betting

2090
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 1: opportunity this weekend is not lost upon you. So, Brian Petrie,

2091
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:40,600
Speaker 1: go ahead.

2092
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, last last now, last week, but last car guitar.

2093
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 9: We went twenty eight hundred for six lagger, hit four

2094
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:48,760
Speaker 9: of the six.

2095
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 1: This one.

2096
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:50,560
Speaker 9: We're gonna keep it a little small. And I'm not

2097
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 9: a parlay guy, but I need to catch can flow.

2098
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 9: And if I do well here, I do well next

2099
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 9: week we might be looking at a dub folks. So

2100
01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 9: I'm gonna give you a little four lagger. We're gonna

2101
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 9: go NAS because I love that number. Let's lock that

2102
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 9: in Nas, Marvin Mattori, Pantosia Morab. That's plus three ninety

2103
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 9: eight full beans three thousand on it. That's that's play

2104
01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:12,160
Speaker 9: right there, babe.

2105
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 1: All right, four leg parlay for Brian Petrie can flow.

2106
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 1: How are you attacking the board? UFC three two three?

2107
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah? Give me one k on Grant Dawson. Okay, give

2108
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 4: me nother thousand on Brandon Moreno, and we're gonna do

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Speaker 4: a two fight parlay. What's gonna make it a three fight? Well,

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Speaker 4: let's make it a three fights, yoh. Let's put Pantosia,

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Speaker 4: Barber and Marab for a one K parlay.

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Speaker 1: Nicely done. And by the way, we congratulate can Flow

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Speaker 1: on a parlay hit in Qatar with a sue Amabaya

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Speaker 1: and vulcanoos Tamir. That was a three legger, but you

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Speaker 1: actually eliminated Armon sour Gjian because of the rumors on

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Speaker 1: fight day from his back. But it's still I pick

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Speaker 1: on Brian Petrie. Any final word before the final pay

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Speaker 1: per view before we let.

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Speaker 9: You fly nothing boys, thanks for having me as always,

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Speaker 9: Johnny kill it this weekend. I know you will, Kenny,

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Speaker 9: I see you kind of stretching the back out. Hopefully

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Speaker 9: that works out for you, buddy.

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Speaker 8: That's it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, That's all I got.

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Speaker 1: There is chief handicapping Brian Petrie with us for the

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Speaker 1: main event challenge and we got to get on that here.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Jason and great Longo, Brian Petrie, Cody Merrow,

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Speaker 1: we are right back with you. I believe in our

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Speaker 1: usual spot. I'll be still in Vegas, but Monday, December eighth,

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Speaker 1: full recap of UFC three twenty three, probably around eleven

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Speaker 1: a m Eastern eight a m. Pacific. With that, thanks

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Speaker 1: to Ken Flow for playing her today for Kenny Floryd

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Speaker 1: and I'm John and We will talk to you in

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Speaker 1: less than seven days. Until then, thanks for watching and

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Speaker 1: listening to you later