WEBVTT - Rookie Spotlight: Shaun Wade

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this

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<v Speaker 1>is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it.

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<v Speaker 1>They's getting down to do it. Good do it. We

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<v Speaker 1>asked the questions you always want to know, but no

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<v Speaker 1>one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard

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<v Speaker 1>about it, then we're about to let you know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all You're gonna go, all right, you're shot in a

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<v Speaker 1>chair and folder Jones, I mean, uh, Steve. Over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I had no chance of talking. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>this article about uh offensive tackle Isaiah Wilson, who just

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<v Speaker 1>three days after Miami Dolphins traded for him, was recently waived.

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<v Speaker 1>And we were talking a little bit before this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it spurred up some some things maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to hit on in terms of what what this

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<v Speaker 1>brings about from from seeing something like this happened in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Well, it's just with everything going on, I

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<v Speaker 1>think sometimes people have this, uh false sense that NFL

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<v Speaker 1>player or potential first round draft pick, seventh round draft

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<v Speaker 1>pick now and say, oh, this is this is the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity of lifetime. How can this person do this? And

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<v Speaker 1>so we start off by talking about is that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna move past him and just kind of putting

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<v Speaker 1>in the category of this. What this young man is

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<v Speaker 1>displaying has no different than someone who did not play sports,

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<v Speaker 1>who has tricked off an opportunity for some reason, we

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<v Speaker 1>put this, We put people in sports category position like

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<v Speaker 1>how dare you screw up? And so one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things I one of many things that I know really

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<v Speaker 1>which is really hard to decipher and figure out this

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<v Speaker 1>if I use the same analogy of we remove the

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<v Speaker 1>athlete and we just plug in the name and a place.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I know about, um, just the world where

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<v Speaker 1>where we are. You can go to any community right

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<v Speaker 1>now and you know less in the middle class, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can go into any community right now where there's

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<v Speaker 1>poverty and what is it chaos, termol, things are happening,

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<v Speaker 1>things are said. There's just so much going on, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's hard to just turn away from and and say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just ignore. Like you can only play so many sports.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point when the game's stopping, you go home,

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<v Speaker 1>you go back to wherever you are. It will affect you.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you have that chaos. You have that termoil,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you have that's on the outside, then you

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<v Speaker 1>have what's happening on the inside. And then you get

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to go to a college and play football,

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<v Speaker 1>go to class. But you still can't turn off the images.

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<v Speaker 1>You still can't turn off the things that these men

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<v Speaker 1>and women have. Young men and women have experiences. They

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<v Speaker 1>were young men and women. So now they become adults

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<v Speaker 1>and then they get drafted. Those things don't leave, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't change. Yeah, you may have money too, maybe cloak

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<v Speaker 1>those images, but they're still there there when they're laying

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<v Speaker 1>in the bed in that nice big bed, now it's

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<v Speaker 1>instead of sharing the bed with four other relatives, now

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<v Speaker 1>they're just by themselves. So with him, I think, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he's in a place where he gets to choose. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need help, absolutely, But sometimes we don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>that we need help. We don't even know because if

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<v Speaker 1>you have had something happened to you and it's never addressed.

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<v Speaker 1>When you become that doctor m hm, you become that professor,

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<v Speaker 1>when you become that government official, that football coach, that

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<v Speaker 1>football player, that quarterback, that podcaster, audio video guys, whether man,

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<v Speaker 1>whether girl, all that has done is you now are

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<v Speaker 1>those things with the same baggage and stuff you've grown

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<v Speaker 1>up with? This is with the title. Now that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you just say football player there that do you

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<v Speaker 1>have some sort of bagage? You had some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>trauma you know, yeah? Or who was sexually assaulted, who

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<v Speaker 1>was molested as a kid, who witnessed their mom or

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<v Speaker 1>dad passed or o d or whatever the case. My

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<v Speaker 1>point being, you're coming from something, yes, and if it's

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not, if it has never been addressed, that

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<v Speaker 1>issue that has never been addressed, Now you're just adult.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have not been heard or listened or cared with,

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<v Speaker 1>you become a lawyer or a doctor that has never

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<v Speaker 1>been cared to listen to and you still haven't dealt with.

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<v Speaker 1>And we don't know what neighborhood he's come from or

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<v Speaker 1>what trauma he's going through, but just evident on making

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<v Speaker 1>choices that's relevant to to whomever it is, right like

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<v Speaker 1>life at the end of the day becomes about choices

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<v Speaker 1>and whether it is you know, he's been arrested on

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<v Speaker 1>do you do you watch charges? Or has had a

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<v Speaker 1>trespassing warning and I don't know what that's for. Or

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<v Speaker 1>what's up underneath. It's definitely not good. It's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>You never read a trespass that was with good intent.

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<v Speaker 1>But but where I where I do read this is

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<v Speaker 1>just saying somewhere along the lines, something is probably going

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<v Speaker 1>on in this young man's life right to where something

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<v Speaker 1>has happened. But at the end of the day, it

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<v Speaker 1>does come down to choices, right, And that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm here, and that's what I'm here to say

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<v Speaker 1>this for us, it comes down to choices, But it

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<v Speaker 1>also comes down two. Really, I'm coming from the angle

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<v Speaker 1>of the people who are saying call them all kind

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<v Speaker 1>of names and saying, how dare he? As if these

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<v Speaker 1>individuals you've never screwed up an opportunity, you didn't mess

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<v Speaker 1>up in college. That's one of the things that if

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<v Speaker 1>you were to keep follow around some of these regular

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<v Speaker 1>folks show how they act at the at the local

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<v Speaker 1>happy hour on Snapchat. Oh it might be some folks

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<v Speaker 1>losing it. We all make hold on. Here's what I

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<v Speaker 1>love listening to. I love listening to the radio station.

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<v Speaker 1>I like listening to Steve Harmony and in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>I always love listening to UH to Nephew Tommy's prank phone,

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<v Speaker 1>because what's interesting is, here's say something, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's a prank. But you hear the the person

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<v Speaker 1>on the other call, you hear him lose themselves, and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll start to hear him like say stuff. You'd be

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah. And it's just I always find it interesting

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<v Speaker 1>on those prank phone calls because they sound so buttoned up,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when this and he keeps pressing them, keep

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<v Speaker 1>pressing them, and then they get really uneducated. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever's in you, if you get if you get squeeze

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<v Speaker 1>hard enough, what's in you will come out? Oh? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. It's just the it's the differences. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>they're not writing the articles. Yeah, you're not on public display.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's that's the interest. Get exactly what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's that's worth pointing out because right

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<v Speaker 1>now a lot of people are throwing under his name

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<v Speaker 1>and saying, man, he's really screwing up this this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>But we just we don't know what his backstory is,

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't know what the root causes are for

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<v Speaker 1>him to do whatever he's deciding to do. M hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tough yeah, but we hope he gets everything that

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<v Speaker 1>he needs and somehow he bounces back. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>not about football, no, not not, not at all, not

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<v Speaker 1>at all. It's not about how quickly he can get

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<v Speaker 1>back on the field, because that I see that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot too. Like people always wonder how quickly is he

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<v Speaker 1>going to get back on the field, or even with

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<v Speaker 1>uh tyger Wood is getting injured recently, how quickly is

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<v Speaker 1>he going to be able to get Like, let's think

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<v Speaker 1>about his quality of life first that ever run across

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<v Speaker 1>your mind? Is he going to have the same quality

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<v Speaker 1>of life? So no different than from that to this, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let's think about Isaiah Wilson's quality of life

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<v Speaker 1>because he's a human. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>people don't really look at because you're entertainment. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you no longer can do it, get rid of so transactional,

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of them. Let's move on. Let's let's replace them,

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<v Speaker 1>thank goodness, than replacing these some of these other daddies

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<v Speaker 1>who working late, speak on it, speak on it. So

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Well, who we got come up on the

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<v Speaker 1>cut to a podcast Rookie Spotlight series. We've got Sean Wade,

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<v Speaker 1>a cornerback for Ohio State University. He is up in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL draft process. Shawn Wade on the cut to

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast. So you may be familiar with Steve Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>You may be familiar with the whole phrase ice up, son.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our version of our own icebreakers. So there

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<v Speaker 1>are random questions and maybe something that's random as E

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<v Speaker 1>forty or two short in the versus battle. There may

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<v Speaker 1>be a follow up, there may not be, but Smithy,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and get first one. All right, you ready? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you can only eat the same plate of food for

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<v Speaker 1>one year. What will be the items on that plate?

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<v Speaker 1>That's hard party, some type of seafood. Crowds strump, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just whoa, whoa, whoa? What do you scrimp or shrimp?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey man, don't let him have that one. Don't let

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<v Speaker 1>him have no let him know where you're from and

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<v Speaker 1>that you accordingly to where you from. I got at them.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you kind of inswine Florida, I get crimped.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna laugh because my my grandmother sayd scrimp.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's cool, but it just threw met that. Probably

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<v Speaker 1>all crowds, Oh, it's just drum and but you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>little sausages and corning and probably what I eat your food. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>full year, you're gonna eat seafood. You're gonna eat seafood

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<v Speaker 1>and sausage. Yeah, I can do that every day, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>the seafood or the sauceage, the seafood. Don't don't listen.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my segment. I love like just a random

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<v Speaker 1>just and it's also loves it gets it gives you

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to show your personality. But also you know,

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<v Speaker 1>joking around and you know, I know I also come

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<v Speaker 1>across and come off very serious all the time. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>shocking never So this is this is good for me. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the opportunity. You will be drafted. But take

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<v Speaker 1>us in the mind you're drafted. Blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you been eyron to buy? Mhm? Property? Probably

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<v Speaker 1>you know what answer is, that's that's what you really,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the real answer. I'm not into all the cars

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. I'm about my mama house and all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. But my thing is property. I'm in the

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<v Speaker 1>real estate, so I'm definitely want to get some type

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<v Speaker 1>of property and things like that. M hmm. Okay, they

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<v Speaker 1>know somebody who knows somebody who knows something about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, my um, my girlfriend her dass. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>that real estate stuff I got other family members and

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<v Speaker 1>people that's just like mentors that that helped me understand

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. Like, it's still a lot of ha to

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<v Speaker 1>learn because I've been in this for our process of

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<v Speaker 1>I've been locked into. But that's just the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do. UM. I like I like houses.

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<v Speaker 1>I like upgrading houses. Um. One of my goals is

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<v Speaker 1>the upgrade a lot of the houses in Jacksonville. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of houses and things like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>just helping families out at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of families at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kids still standing in the same room until fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen in high school and then have nothing. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>just one of my goals. And that's how I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to help you. Mm hmm. That's pretty good, brother, man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's surprising to hear him talk and talk about his

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<v Speaker 1>goals and aspirations and to know that he's a defensive player.

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<v Speaker 1>Man three already coming out guns all right, last, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the last one right here, yea, you can go

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<v Speaker 1>forty four to four at Ohio and lose to Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>every year, or go four and forty four and beat

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan every year. But that's a hard one. I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna I'd rather be Michigan. I'd rather beat them. I

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<v Speaker 1>had to go on four or forty four. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's cool, that's I like. Let's let's get down in

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<v Speaker 1>um to the meeting potatoes of it. Man, your favorite

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<v Speaker 1>favorite sports team? Growing up? Favorite sports? They ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>a sports And I got a favorite athlete on. My

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<v Speaker 1>granddad played ten years and the lead back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite athletes on obviously grew up watching him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the tattoos, the braids and all that stuff, all the

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<v Speaker 1>headbands and things I was. I was a basketball player,

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<v Speaker 1>so that that's other things I love about him. He

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<v Speaker 1>just a great athlete, all right. So where are you from?

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<v Speaker 1>And the place you call your hometown? All right? So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm originally from a gummy all Obama. But the place

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<v Speaker 1>I caught my hometown that jas And then you grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in a military family. Yeah, so how

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<v Speaker 1>was that for you as a kid? It was hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm moving around everywhere. I started all my sports all school.

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<v Speaker 1>I started all that in Italy. Sisters born in Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>I was there for a little bit. I came back

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<v Speaker 1>to the States and I was with my grandma. She's

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<v Speaker 1>she take care of foster kids. So I've been around

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<v Speaker 1>that that system, been around a lot of different kids

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't have nothing on white, black, hispanic, A. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all when I was with her for like two or

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<v Speaker 1>three years, and my brothers were her for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, and we got up and moved to Jacks.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've been in jatspl sin. So what's what's the

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<v Speaker 1>good and the bad about being a military kid? On

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<v Speaker 1>the good is you get to travel and see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things. Um bad is you just always up

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<v Speaker 1>and moving. And it's a lot of good friends that

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<v Speaker 1>you make even when you're young, and now you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make new friends and things. And with me, I'm very quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>so I already don't talk to people, already already kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hold myself. And so it's already heard opened that

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<v Speaker 1>shelf for me. So you know, we read that your

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<v Speaker 1>dad said you were very sheltered. Mm hmm. How would

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<v Speaker 1>you describe the way you were raised the way I was?

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say they kept me out of the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what he means by celtic. Um, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the things that a lot of my friends got an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to do, I didn't get the opportunity to because

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<v Speaker 1>they always kept me in sports. They always kept me

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<v Speaker 1>in the classroom, you always kept me traveling. You said

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<v Speaker 1>you played other sports, but I want to really go

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<v Speaker 1>down that other sports. So what other sports did you

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<v Speaker 1>fall in love with? Did I fall in love with?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely basketball? Um, that probably the only one. That's because

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I played. And you know it's at who

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<v Speaker 1>I seasons basketball season and the summer travel basketball, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I played. And you got seven on seven,

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<v Speaker 1>So it really was basketball. I liked that, like I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't really like baseball, didn't like soccer, and ain't like

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<v Speaker 1>track like that. It was just basketball. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>a pure basketball player. In middle school, elementary, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to play up all the two years above my age group.

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<v Speaker 1>So I always played it up and I was just

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<v Speaker 1>very good at it. So so attending high school, Trendy

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Academy in Jacksonville, you guys want the state championship

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<v Speaker 1>all four years, Bro, who was on your team besides

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<v Speaker 1>you for to have that powerhouse because Florida part of

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<v Speaker 1>Big three Florida, actually California, Texas and Florida Florida. We

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<v Speaker 1>made that known. I'm sorry. California, Florida, Texas. Okay, is

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<v Speaker 1>it is it? Like? Is it? Is it? Florida number

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<v Speaker 1>one and it's a close second California. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>Florida and whoever you want to put after. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>I young feller e r yeller, fella. You know majority

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<v Speaker 1>of the Hall of Famers in the league aren't from Florida. Okay, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it ain't. Okay, I'm just I'm just listening, but I

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<v Speaker 1>love this receive a defensive back. The state of California

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<v Speaker 1>has more Hall of Famers in the NFL then Florida. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>In state of California is exterdinary big too. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's a lot of big places that don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that come out of cald of

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta do my research on this. I can't argue.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't argue about that. You can't, it's facts. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>did my research, so I can't come back from you

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<v Speaker 1>about well, Okay, whatever team you get drafted with will

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<v Speaker 1>most likely be on Thursday Night football, and when I

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<v Speaker 1>see you can come up to me and say, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>you was right. We are bigger state, all right, and

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<v Speaker 1>we also have bigger ballers. Back it down. He is

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<v Speaker 1>preparing for his NFL career already. He is not going

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<v Speaker 1>back down from this what I received. Come on, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't love It's fun, yeah, but who who are some

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<v Speaker 1>of the other guys were on your high school team

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe you went to college or whatever the case

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<v Speaker 1>may be. I mean you guys in Florida playing winning

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<v Speaker 1>championships all four years. That's not an easy task out

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<v Speaker 1>at up. So we got we got a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Taller, he's still in the lead right now. He

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<v Speaker 1>got Jeff Holland, he was good. A lot of our

0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.439
<v Speaker 1>coaches played in league. Um because Scott he played for

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots back in the day. He wanted Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>with them. You got Ross, he played with the Seattle Seahawks.

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<v Speaker 1>You got Jamie Harper came out of Clempson Uch the league,

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<v Speaker 1>played for the Titans. You got um. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. The one that got his arm car from

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<v Speaker 1>Miami that played for Miami on kids and Norton. It

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<v Speaker 1>was it was a big news. He played for US,

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<v Speaker 1>I played with him. We just got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people that came up there. I was there for right now,

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<v Speaker 1>played for Miami Dolphins. This is a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>you got. Um Isaiah end up going to Virginia Tech. Yeah, James,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's my mentor. He really was one of my

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<v Speaker 1>mentor he got. He actually molded me into who I

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<v Speaker 1>am in the day for real. So Isaiah is awesome man.

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<v Speaker 1>Great body control man, I mean, ball can be thrown

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<v Speaker 1>in the clouds feet come back down. He's great. I

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<v Speaker 1>just said, here's ability neal body control coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>college watching me. Just very good body control. But now

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<v Speaker 1>we just had a lot of people. So and then

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<v Speaker 1>coaching this coaching south over there is unbelievable be man.

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<v Speaker 1>He just he just kept everybody on his way and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a lot of people from different side of Jacks.

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<v Speaker 1>We got north, south, south side people that's on the

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<v Speaker 1>west side area, but going in Trinity. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people that that that sacrifice they do for

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<v Speaker 1>their family and the school and things like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>Sean was for sure ball and he was a USA

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<v Speaker 1>today High school Football Player of the Year, and he

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<v Speaker 1>won the Lockheed Martin Defensive Back of the Year awarded

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<v Speaker 1>by the Army All American Balls. So definitely capped off

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<v Speaker 1>a great high school career with with with some really

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<v Speaker 1>good accolades before attending Ohio State. We have to take

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<v Speaker 1>us wherever you listen to podcasts. I got all my

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<v Speaker 1>answers questions. Um, yeah, I got all my questions answered.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm here for, a brother, cut to a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast dot com. Do you love football? I love football.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's the reason why I play. If I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>love at one be I just just had to answer.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you love about football? The most I

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<v Speaker 1>love about football? Ain't got a lot of contact. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it hit at the end of the day. Contact

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<v Speaker 1>and just the friendships you make out there at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day. And I love to compete too, lot, Pete.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I've been done my whole life. So and

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<v Speaker 1>it's the support that God bless me to to to

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<v Speaker 1>compete that with you to day. It's a basketball And

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<v Speaker 1>this is when I chose for me so so so

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<v Speaker 1>I had a Trinity Christian one of the schools were

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<v Speaker 1>recruiting you. And then why did you ultimately pick Ohio State?

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<v Speaker 1>So I had a lot of schools recruit me. You

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<v Speaker 1>only had to top five another Dame Alabama Virginia said, um,

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<v Speaker 1>that too, uh, and then Florida. Those are those school

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<v Speaker 1>and you know states. I want to go far from

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<v Speaker 1>home though, UM want to. I just want to mature

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<v Speaker 1>and get something new at the end of that. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get out of the South and learn something

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day. Like I just just

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<v Speaker 1>how you gotta be Like I feel like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people stay close to home and it don't work

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<v Speaker 1>out and things like that. And it was the other

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<v Speaker 1>school I was better for. You just didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be far from your family and grow up like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just wanted to grow up and I just

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<v Speaker 1>like to coach Combs and coach Myers. At the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, it was a great coaches. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach did a lot of great things out Florida and

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<v Speaker 1>then the schooling and the alumni system out of how

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<v Speaker 1>it state is amazing. Like you wanted to talk in

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<v Speaker 1>the nation the world for real. So at the football,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, be successful. Just make sure to make a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of friends outside of football. Things like that. Smart yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and tell us about your uh, your best friend Kobe,

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<v Speaker 1>what what happened? And why have you chosen to keep

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<v Speaker 1>his memory alive? I told to keep his memory alive

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like I'm not gonna say it's my fault.

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<v Speaker 1>Back the end of the day, I feel I could

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<v Speaker 1>have pushed him to do better and do more things.

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<v Speaker 1>And he just did a lot of things for me.

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<v Speaker 1>He made sure I was always straight, took care of

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<v Speaker 1>me and things like that. The year before before he

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<v Speaker 1>died out the year but a couple of months before

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<v Speaker 1>he died, he was staying with me. Um he was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna was for some pay for about tra Trinity. He

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<v Speaker 1>was coming to work out some things like that and

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 1>eventually like he just he just faded away and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like he don't want to do it no more

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<v Speaker 1>so a live man. We're gonna let you do what

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<v Speaker 1>you do. And then he just got back in the

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<v Speaker 1>streets and that's just how it happened. And me and

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<v Speaker 1>my other friend, we just felt like it was my

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<v Speaker 1>fault because he was at my house all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>was takeing care of the feed him, been closing his

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<v Speaker 1>back when we needed clothes, taking my home to get closed,

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<v Speaker 1>to come back over and things like that. Not fo

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<v Speaker 1>I actually just kept on pushing them to to do

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<v Speaker 1>better things. And then before that he was the week

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<v Speaker 1>before he died, he was running military too. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it was and a lot of that is from

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<v Speaker 1>my dad just trying to help him and my family

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to help him. So when you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>your family, man, how much how much your family and

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<v Speaker 1>such a part of who you are today, Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit part because at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad really didn't have a lot of people don't

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<v Speaker 1>know this, but my dad, Um, he got kicked out

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<v Speaker 1>of the house when he was young. He was living

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<v Speaker 1>across street while his family was across the street. And

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, and he was living his best friends.

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<v Speaker 1>So like he had a hard. Mom was my mom

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<v Speaker 1>and my grandma. She was a singer. She was a

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<v Speaker 1>single mom at the end of the day, taking care

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:36.119
<v Speaker 1>of my my mom and things like that, and she

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<v Speaker 1>had it hard. So and then they both had it

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<v Speaker 1>hard and they both sacrificed a lot. Mom was a

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<v Speaker 1>model when she had me, and she could have made

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<v Speaker 1>big money, but she sacrificed that just to how to

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<v Speaker 1>meet And I had to get that back to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So just the characteristics that I have right now is

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<v Speaker 1>from them. Like my dad gets back to everybody. He

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<v Speaker 1>made sure everybody is straight and at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, that's the type of person he hasn't hear

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<v Speaker 1>mold at it be, you know, playing all the Ohio

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:04.920
<v Speaker 1>state and with your current NFL draft status and then

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>playing on the teams and going back to that school.

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<v Speaker 1>You got Chase Young, defensive player, defensive Rookie of the Year,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Bolson. You know, you got so many guys that

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<v Speaker 1>you either play with for a little bit of time

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<v Speaker 1>or are so fresh out they still come back to

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the school. How is how important is that for a

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>young man like you? Obviously your freshman year. Each year,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm guessing your freshman year. You're kind of like, wow,

0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:41.439
<v Speaker 1>this is amazing. Now it's just the norm. Oh, you know,

0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 1>just just hanging out with jas, you know, just to

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<v Speaker 1>defensive Player of the Years, you know, Rookie of the Years.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's something that you can't always cultivate. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>happen at every school, but for you guys, it's a norm.

0:25:56.320 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Does that help you feel like you're dreams are playing

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:06.679
<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League can really become real? You

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 1>know what? What did those guys mean to the to

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the for your school, but also for you personally when

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:16.359
<v Speaker 1>you have been able to be at practice shore possibly

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>sitting in the same chairs or some of the greats

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>that made to the Hall of Fame, but then also

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 1>some future like yourself and current players that are two

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 1>years ago you were playing on the field with and

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>now they're there there in the league. Yeah, so it

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>just sill the worth that they put in. They like

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:41.679
<v Speaker 1>with Bosa, you got Marks, Shawn, you got Denzel Just

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:44.199
<v Speaker 1>it shows you when you're younger and you're looking up

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 1>because and they Chase had somebody to look up to,

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 1>and that was Bosa. And it was Jalen Holmes and

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 1>autumn boys and that that that work ethic got a

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:53.919
<v Speaker 1>start and Chase when we got to as freshman, it

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like that at first, Like at the end of

0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 1>the day was like after all this at the end

0:26:57.640 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>of the day, we came in they wen't know what

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>was coming into and just being around them players and

0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 1>just installed the work ethic and the things that we

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>have to do on the field to just to be successful.

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>We all learned that from them, Like you know day

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>like Denzel you got, Damnon, got Marshawn, watching um Malie

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Hooker's tape on film and things like that, and I

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>just that's just how it is, Like the how the state,

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the coach they got unbelievable coaches. It's strength. It's really

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the strength coaches stuff. It's really them. They installed that

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:25.160
<v Speaker 1>worth and they installed everything, and it's like that's who

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 1>we went seven. Like Coach Meet does a wonderful job

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:33.640
<v Speaker 1>of building characteristics of players there, Like it's really them

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>that that puts all that into players. Coming from Florida

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>going to Ohio State, what was that transition Like, oh,

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>it definitely was different. I want to had like four flooded,

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 1>flood of kids on the team at the moment, and

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>then you know that snow was that snow, That code

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>was a little bit didn't not it was. It was

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>a bit of difference, but now it was. It was

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>great just making new friends and understanding how just to

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 1>grow up. Then being far from home because at the

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>end of the day, I don't know where I go

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>to l a and be far from homes and then

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>day you just got to learn how to grow up

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and and take care of yourself and the things that

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>my dad had, how to fix your tire, how to

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>change the engine, how to change It's just a little

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>stuff that you gotta learn as a man. And I'm

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:18.479
<v Speaker 1>glad he installed that at me. But in the day

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 1>or house, they're still talking stuff. We've got a thing

0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>called real Life Landsdays where we have a person that

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 1>comes in and talk about real life things such as

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:31.640
<v Speaker 1>financial stuff and and things like that, banking types stuff. Yeah,

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>all everything. It's not even just that. Sometimes one time

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 1>we had them talking about sexual diseases and why you

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 1>should wear a call them and things like that. It's

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>like it's everything because a lot of people don't teach

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 1>you that stuff. You don't know. They don't. So it's

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>just a lot of things they taught us how to

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>treat the women, things like that, and it's changing the

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>narrative and things like that. That stuff with me forever

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of people don't treat one it right,

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 1>and some woman's just don't respect yourself nowadays. So at

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, it's just just you just

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>gotta keep on learning. And that's the things that the

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.480
<v Speaker 1>House state does. I'm not sure the pro what the

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>protocols were at o't have state, and but I'm interested

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>what what where some of your experiences in trying to

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 1>attend schools during the pandemic when it first started, before

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, before they went into lockdown, before all that stuff.

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, I know a little bit of what I experienced,

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>but I wasn't in school because I I can't imagine

0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I had the ability to be at home and still

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>have the roller coaster trying to figure things out. You know,

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you weren't at home. You're in the place that you know,

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you weren't familiar with necessarily when a health scare like

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>this happens. So I was wondering, what what did you experience?

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>And you know, for you personally. So during my experience,

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>my experience are different from a lot of people. Right

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>when the country sat down, I had surgery two days

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>before and I was stuck in Philly. Wow. Um, I

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't filling my mom and I was doing like treatment

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>there and I was gonna stay there for like two

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago treatment so I can get back. But I

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>had to hurt him at home because you know, they

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>shut the country down on the airports and want none

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>of that. And my thing was I couldn't do nothing.

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I was just stuck on the couch because I couldn't

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>work out. I wasn't getting no therapy from nobody really

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>like that was doing it like twice a week and

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>it was like thirty to thirty minutes to an hour.

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't like it was you know how it's hot it

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:22.240
<v Speaker 1>is at school. Different, Yeah, so with me, it was

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 1>it was just definitely hard and I just felt like

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't work on minecraft at the end of the day,

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 1>like they were sitting us workouts and things like that,

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>but I couldn't do doing that stuff and the coaches

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>do that. And that was my experience. But from people

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 1>that's from my city, like Taioreking things. They were just

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>working out every day and just trying to trying to

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 1>just trying to stay mobile and things like that and

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>actually keep their families safe because a lot of people

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>have got COVID and died from me and things like that.

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>So we were just trying to stay safe and things.

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>But and then the day when we got back to school,

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:53.479
<v Speaker 1>it was it was different. We couldn't sit by each other,

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>We had to wear masks for seven um we didn't.

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>We didn't shut down. Plenty of times we didn't. It

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>was crazy And I haven't fans in the stadium not

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>be able to hear fans chair here here, the band

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>play the band and things like that. Like it was

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a big impact, especially for the freshman coming in. Like

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, at the freshman all you want to do

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>is go out and have fun. And they cadn't do that.

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 1>They couldn't experience like college lifestyle like they wanted to,

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 1>And it was it was definitely different from them. And

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>then it's another thing, like you know that spring football

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>is a very very important college especially for a freshman

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 1>coming in for peoples trying to get a new job.

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>So having the spring we just can't installed that, and

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and and the freshman and how hard we're work and

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>how to play is working things like that, they couldn't

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 1>really learn football. It was just it was just hard

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>for everybody because our defense is brand new from nineteen.

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of we had a lot of

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>people that was their first year starting and we missed

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the camp at camp during football seats, I mean during

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>school like that. I ain't never heard of camp during school. Um,

0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day because now you gotta

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>go back and focus on school work. When you usually

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>do camp, you just straight football and that's all it is.

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 1>So uh, it definitely was different with everything. And at

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day and we we we we

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 1>all had just sacrifice and that's that was the way.

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>We use a lot of sacrifice and just keep on fighting,

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about the outside noise and things like that.

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of things going on, but with

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>different cases. We had times where we had twenty people,

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>half of our coaches were going, half of the players

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>were going, and that was like two weeks during the season,

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 1>like if not having everybody so well, this saging we

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>got it's called let's talk ball and so really We

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>just want to get more into things from just you're

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 1>playing career in Ohio State too, what's going on right

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>now with your draft process? So question one, playing Ohio

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>State Michigan your big rival, what is that like? Playing

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>in that game from your freshman year in progression through

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>your career in Ohio State the funnest and most intense

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 1>then you ever played um in football? For sure, we

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>do so much for that game. After that game that

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 1>we start the clock and it's like every week we

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>do like a hundred hundred, but three hundred and something,

0:32:56.160 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>push up, sit up, pull down, different things. Until we

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>played we played the team up. We don't want to

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 1>call him and calling team up North. Then it's just

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 1>it's just very intense saying how how how the robbery

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>is and how we always fighting and and things like that.

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>We we just we really don't like them on the game.

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>We have jerseys on the floor. We're stepping on their

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 1>jerseys every wee spitting on them. We got everything crossed

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>out like that. Junk. I junk is real for us.

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I said I'd rather go for in

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>forty four and forty four and four because we put

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 1>so much into that game, and we just we just

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>don't like them. And I talked to a lot of

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>teams that played the Team Up that played for Team

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Up North, and they don't do the same thing that

0:33:32.360 --> 0:33:34.479
<v Speaker 1>we do. So I don't know what it is with them,

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 1>but any typing up, oh man, I had a follow

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>up question there, but right not anymore never never right there?

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean Stephens said why you were talking? He said,

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>that's the most intense game you played in in college? Yea,

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>in college? Oh yeah, in college. NFL is different. So

0:33:56.440 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>especially depending on which the vision go in, you're going

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>that uh a f C North, man, I think tense,

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>like uh, you know, I played in NFC NFC South

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.319
<v Speaker 1>and it was originally NFC West and NC, so I

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>went to ANFC North. That's a different type of rival.

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>We played Thursday night, Friday morning, hit me with a

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 1>mac Troy, the whole bunch of brothers there. I remember

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>having my big welcome to the a f C North. Um.

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I was still actually playing with the Panthers. And if

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you go back, I can't remember which one. I think

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 1>it's the one with Michael Vick on it, but they

0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>jake along threw me a little turkey hole. It was

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 1>covered to turkey home, got up, got it down, and man,

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I saw every coming. Ed hit me so hard and

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I called it like that hit me. So he hit

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>me in my shoulder and flipped me and I literally

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 1>landed back on my on my on my body. Man.

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 1>It was like so that was my welcome to the

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>NFC North. I always knew it was different, but you

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>don't really know. You know, you can watch it and

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>go think it looks different, but then when you experience it,

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:28.800
<v Speaker 1>everything my knees hurt, they hurt a little bit different,

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 1>you know. So do you have a welcome to the

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Big ten football type of play when you you know freshman, sophomore, junior, Well, oh,

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 1>mine would definitely be my freshman. It wasn't even a

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 1>big team game. It was spring ball and springboard, my

0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 1>freshman first going in the spring ball going against each other,

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and I got, I got ran, slept over, stiff on.

0:35:57.840 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 1>It was. It was bad and it was It wasn't

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>even about uh scholarship. It was about walk on and

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna remember. Yeah, I felt embarrassed, but I can't.

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>I came back and want the game for us, So

0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I was I was okay, after that, but I was

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I was embarrassed though, Like that's why I knew I

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 1>had to hit the weight around, get bigger, different things

0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>like that. So how has the draft process been for

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>you so far? I've been straight, Um, a little bit

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.040
<v Speaker 1>frustrating because I got a couple of injuries that I'm

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>still dealing with it from the season. Um, I took

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 1>turf till during the season. I didn't have to get surgery, luckily,

0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, it's still not healed up.

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't got the quarters on shot, I didn't have

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>everything for it, and it's still it's still biting, messing

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:43.000
<v Speaker 1>with me. So that I've been a little frustrating, It's

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 1>still a blessing because I'm in this in this position

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day. A lot of people

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>want to be in my position. At the end of

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the day. I just gotta go play football. That's that's

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 1>all that matter right now. You know, no matter what

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 1>around you go, you should go play football. And the

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 1>big money is always in next contract. So are given

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity, M what number would you like to wear?

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I got I got too many? Um, that definitely too

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>wear one the only one one. But I got definitely

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>two folk. I could go twenty one, twenty Um, I

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 1>could see myself in forty one. I like that for

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:23.439
<v Speaker 1>some reason. So by water and pop oneing U twenty four,

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's calledge. Number twenty one is just a

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 1>is a I like twenty one, You like twenty You're

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna like twenty three. Those numbers, you're just gonna like,

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>um number, what's up? Um? It is what it is.

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>But I don't want no, really no thirty number. If

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I do it, probably thirty three. All right. So I'm

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna just go ahead and put that out there and

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 1>ask you the question. But it's not gonna be in

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 1>the way that you think. So I'm a veteran, you know,

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 1>play to play sixteen years. You're fresh, you're gonna be

0:37:55.800 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 1>a rookie. Mm hmm. We're all known for. You're only

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 1>as good as your last game. In your last game,

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't your best game. How are you using that

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:13.800
<v Speaker 1>to prepare yourself? And before you answer, here's what I

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 1>here's why I asked that. As you think about it.

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:22.720
<v Speaker 1>In International Football League, and you know, even in football

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 1>at college, but so much so in the league, guys

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>will watch film on on young players and all you

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:37.240
<v Speaker 1>can do is go back to college. But then also

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:41.360
<v Speaker 1>when you start looking at film on a guy in

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>the league and you start to see guys that, well

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe this guy, this guy did get them like this,

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>and I know I'm better than that guy, so I

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 1>can do this. How are you mentally preparing yourself when

0:38:54.560 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 1>that veteran comes out, when this young fresh lad, ambitious dB.

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Now this wide receiver is now gonna say something, Oh,

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do you like, Oh boy, did you he

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>did you like this? Um? This is how I'm do you.

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 1>How are you mentally being prepared or have you? Have

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:20.799
<v Speaker 1>you even thought about that? That? What about that? About

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, I just know myself, I

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna let nobody get in my head like you do.

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 1>All the talking, that's what you do. Like I ain't

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 1>ain't part of my game. I let I let my

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>plate talk at the end of the day. And at

0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:32.359
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, I know what I can

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>do on the field. So like whatever that whatever y'all

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>saw in that, ain't that win't me at the end

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:40.280
<v Speaker 1>of the day. Like like I said, I was fighting

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:42.360
<v Speaker 1>injuries things like that, and you ain't got to know that.

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know myself at the end of the day,

0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 1>and I ain't worried about what people say and things

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 1>like that. I know I'm a book and that just me. Yeah. No,

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>it's not necessarily ashamed. Oh I know that. Yeah, you

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>just more. This is a great opportunity to talk to

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 1>the young guys. You're rookie, you know you're gonna be

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:05.399
<v Speaker 1>talking too, because one of the things also is it's

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:12.720
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily just talking, but it's also being able to also.

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>I give the example mm hmm. I've always struggling my confidence.

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>So in struggling my confidence, I've always worked hard. And

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 1>so when I work is when I'm working, I'm already

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 1>in visualizing what I need, the opponent I'm going against,

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and I'm also having so much I had to calm

0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>down and quiet the negative conversation in my own head.

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>And so now if you you add that and then

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>say a players going against me and he makes a

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 1>few plays on me, he may not be talking to

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 1>get in my head. He just may be talking. It's like, bro,

0:40:55.360 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm shutting you down. He's not saying it out of Unfortunately,

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 1>it just might be happening you know that's his assignment,

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 1>that's he is doing his signing darn well. And then

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>got the negative talk. Man, that's a combination of for me,

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 1>a negative cocktail, and so in that you know, being prepared,

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 1>and that's why I'm asking you not necessarily putting on

0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>front street of your performance, but more that's the part

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 1>about ball up in the league is ten percent of

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.719
<v Speaker 1>it is your skill. The other ninety percent is what

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you're talking to yourself through the week. And then on

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>game day, you know, I know you've probably saw why

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 1>receiver drop wanted two passes and you can pick out

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 1>he's done to that exactly. And so you luckily haven't

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:54.720
<v Speaker 1>had many of those days. You only played four years.

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I played sixteen years. I can tell you right now. Man,

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I was playing I think it was the Indianapolis Coats

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and I and the quarterback throws me a pass and

0:42:07.239 --> 0:42:10.880
<v Speaker 1>we on that turf and some freaking reason, that turf

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:12.879
<v Speaker 1>monster got me. I was running a deep dig. I

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I do a cattle. I used to do a Cadillac term.

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 1>So when I hit that, when I hit inside that school,

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm leaning and but man I hit uh, I don't

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:31.759
<v Speaker 1>know what I hit and I feel myself. He's throwing

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:34.799
<v Speaker 1>it on time, and I'm trying to you know what

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't do. I'm fighting the fall and I'm going

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:44.479
<v Speaker 1>and I feel myself I fell simultaneously when the ball

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 1>was on time. You know where the ball hit me?

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Not the head face mask. I was actually Detroit, Okay,

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, but the way the ball hit me,

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:03.439
<v Speaker 1>I was actually embarrassed. I literally wanted to cry. Dang.

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I was in the huddle and they were like Smithy.

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, I'm not wow. And that's just

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:13.719
<v Speaker 1>one of those things. And I think I was in

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>my eighth and ninth year, so you still look, you

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 1>still have that even in that right, Yeah, and so

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>just you know, but that's that nine percent of I

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 1>knew what kind of player I was, but for that

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 1>split second mm hmm, I had more doubt than I

0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:34.399
<v Speaker 1>usually have in that game at that moment that. I mean,

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:36.359
<v Speaker 1>it even brings up a question for me, Sean, how

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 1>do you deal with adversity? Because I mean, you've you've

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you dealt with injuries in your in your college career,

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:43.879
<v Speaker 1>then you had to deal with COVID nineteen, So how

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>do you how do you project dealing with adversity as

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:52.160
<v Speaker 1>you enterest in the NFL and beyond. It's really about

0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 1>that self talk, like you was saying, that's that negative

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 1>self talk, keeping up definitely keeping that out your head

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>and things like that. I just started like doing therapy

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 1>like people. People dont understand that you need that stuff,

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 1>like you always need help somebody else just to help

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>you learn that stuff, learn your ways. Because I was

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:08.799
<v Speaker 1>looking at something on Instagram. There are a lot of

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.480
<v Speaker 1>black men. They don't like to They don't like the

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>point out they flaws and what they go through and

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 1>their negative things like that. So that that's something I've

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 1>been working on myself and things like that and just this.

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 1>It's really the self talk to to help yourself. Man.

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 1>That's that's really the main reason. Yourself talk is your

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:26.319
<v Speaker 1>biggest fault. A lot of people don't notice that what

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>it is. I think it's about that time. Just take

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 1>a little breather. Good do, good do. Let's getting down

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>to do it. Hey, Gerard, why did you get that

0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.399
<v Speaker 1>T shirt? You mean this thing? Oh yes, I got

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:43.400
<v Speaker 1>it from cut to a podcast dot com where we

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:46.560
<v Speaker 1>have exclusive merchandise. Shout out to our guys at seven

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 1>or four shot. But yeah, you can go on, buy

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you a T shirt, subscribe to us wherever you listen

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 1>to podcasts. What can we expect out of you or

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 1>what do you expect out of yourself coming into the

0:44:57.360 --> 0:45:00.439
<v Speaker 1>league after you're drafting? Um, just coming of the league

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:02.200
<v Speaker 1>actually just being a team player at the end of

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the day and working hard and getting better, progressing, getting

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:08.320
<v Speaker 1>better learning for all the vets and older guys watching

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:10.520
<v Speaker 1>them at the end of the day, and it's getting

0:45:10.560 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 1>better learning defenses because at the end of day, I

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.279
<v Speaker 1>do want to coach, So just learning from coaches and

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 1>things like that. You can learn from everybody and they

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>don't have to just be players and things like that.

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:22.799
<v Speaker 1>You can learn from coaches. So that's my goal for sure,

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:24.880
<v Speaker 1>to get on the field and start make players on

0:45:24.920 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 1>special teams. I know on special teams and already know

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 1>alright en, So you gotta make players on special teams

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and and he's got to do your job. And my

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:35.840
<v Speaker 1>my goal has win Super Bowls. I'm a winner at

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day. They ain't ain't about yourself.

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:39.400
<v Speaker 1>It's about the team. And I like to win. I

0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>like to win games and get rings. So you got

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 1>a bachelor's degree in sports industry, Like what, so that's that?

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 1>It just talks about all aspects of sports. So I

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't learn about the law history, um, because the industry

0:45:57.200 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 1>is a major. It's a major, sure that I didn't yet.

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeahrom forty two. They they didn't change the whole degree systems.

0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 1>On the last segments called the deep three, the three

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 1>questions that take us beyond who you are as a

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 1>football player. So Smithie, we can give the first one.

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:20.360
<v Speaker 1>How much pressure do you put on yourself? And once

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you feel that pressure, when he kind of gets to

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>that boiling point, how do you release it? I put

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of pressure on myself. I ain't gonna lie.

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just hard on myself at and then I want

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 1>to be perfect, but it's nothing. It's it's unless were

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:40.360
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of impossibly perfect because unpressure as perfect as Jesus.

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 1>So I put a lot of pressure on myself. I

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 1>got big ghosts myself. I got told y'all and things

0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:47.799
<v Speaker 1>like that. But how how I'm getting through it now

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:50.440
<v Speaker 1>is like talking to people different things. I got got

0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 1>my girl that I talked to and she has me

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>get through that stuff and released all that pressure and

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 1>things like that. You got my family, Um, they helped

0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:59.840
<v Speaker 1>me a lot of things. So that's how I released

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 1>and things like that. But I've been starting to read

0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 1>a lot of books and things that's helping me just

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 1>calm down and and different things like that, because it's

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna be real the pressure to get to people. And

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.239
<v Speaker 1>that's just how that's just how life is regardless, like,

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna have pressure. It don't matter what what

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 1>what what what things you're doing like, you always wanna

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 1>have pressure. So um uh, I didn't have times where

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I did great repressure. I don't had times where I

0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 1>just sucked with pressure. So that's just how that you

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:27.360
<v Speaker 1>just gotta learn from it. I mean you alluded to

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>big goals. What is your big picture and what do

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 1>you see for your life on and off the field.

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:33.800
<v Speaker 1>On and off the field, I just want to do

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:35.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of good things for the community. Um, not

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:37.319
<v Speaker 1>for myself, for the community. I just want to make

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:39.840
<v Speaker 1>sure I help the city. Jobs we allowed up city Montgomery.

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:42.839
<v Speaker 1>I'll just help kids, I'm in general, um and put

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 1>put kids in better predicaments. I got a lot of

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.600
<v Speaker 1>friends that just didn't have that father figure in their life.

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 1>To just push them to the to the limits and

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 1>understand the bigger gold in life and not just a

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 1>straight life. Um that that's something that I I diffite want.

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Don't take a lot of kids under my built and

0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 1>that's that's what my father did. So that's that's something

0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I definite want to do for sure. Want to build

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:03.560
<v Speaker 1>an AU team uh seven on seventeen. Those of goals

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that I've got me my friend, we want to bring

0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 1>you want to build a school one day in Jacksonville,

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>just to help people out and things like that. So

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:11.360
<v Speaker 1>it just goes that I got for myself and things

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 1>like that and they're on the field. Is just to

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to just be the best meat at the end of

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 1>the day. Don't don't worry about nobody else. Just be

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:19.880
<v Speaker 1>the best meat and just win games and when win

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the super Bowl, when there's many championships and super Bowls

0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:24.680
<v Speaker 1>as I can in the day, and just be the

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 1>best meat because the best usual only you. So and

0:48:28.120 --> 0:48:29.920
<v Speaker 1>you want to get one tax at its lifetime and

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm here, so I just got to do the best

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>thing for me. And what God has started. What do

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:40.359
<v Speaker 1>you fear? What no I fear? Only fest I fear

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:42.480
<v Speaker 1>is the Lord, I ain't really got no fears like that.

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't like roller coasters, but that's like roller coasters,

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 1>but only feel the Lord. But you can choose to

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 1>not get like you just don't up and fall into

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 1>a roller coaster, so you can make that. You can

0:48:57.680 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 1>make that valid choice to not get on the roller

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:07.840
<v Speaker 1>and all got monster they at their little fair. Yeah,

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't do that. Yeah, so yeah, you don't fear

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<v Speaker 1>nobody we may. Man. I look forward to watch your career. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you don't have a fantastic career. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're tight about the process and you should be. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is opportunity for you, man, take all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>absorb it, remember it, you know, stopping smell of roses too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you're gonna be meeting with some of these

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<v Speaker 1>general manager some of these head coaches. M hm. You

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<v Speaker 1>one little tidbit ask questions to look forward to watch

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<v Speaker 1>you play, and good luck in the draft, man. I

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<v Speaker 1>know whatever team gets you. Um, you know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're not fully healthy, but you know, rest up and

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<v Speaker 1>keep doing you rehabbing stuff, man, and you'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>out there sooner than later. So well appreciate yours do

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<v Speaker 1>athletes in his positions generally recognize how rare this opportunity is.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not. We don't can't. Thanks for keeping it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to say, you cannot it is you

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<v Speaker 1>can say you you, you have you do? Oh you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Do you think people will have like through

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<v Speaker 1>when people say that rose colored glasses are absolutely yeah

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<v Speaker 1>you have them on there. But it's all it's not

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't care, they're not intelligent. None of the

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<v Speaker 1>negative connotations that you believe. It has to do with

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<v Speaker 1>if you never experienced it, which is hints getting drafted

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<v Speaker 1>the first time. You just don't know what to expect.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't you even when someone's telling you, you still

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<v Speaker 1>don't because it just comes at you so fast. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting hearing him say, you only live once, so

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you do the best of make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>take care. Bron I am forty two years old and

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<v Speaker 1>I sit back something sometimes I go, yeah, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see that one coming. Life still gonna be a learning experience, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's always the best teacher. But you can be

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<v Speaker 1>prepped and prepared all you want. You can be prepared

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<v Speaker 1>just like Sean. You can be prepared for spring practice.

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<v Speaker 1>You could be prepared for that, the starting running back,

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<v Speaker 1>but then here comes that non scholarship and just truck you.

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<v Speaker 1>And you don't because you think, oh, I got this.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen a sweet before. Yeah, I've seen a sweet before.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't seen it like this brother, because he's coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of seven, that starving like Marvin un scholarship, walk

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<v Speaker 1>on running back? Who got something to play for? Right now?

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<v Speaker 1>He's at a twelve And I know some of y'all listening,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't know. Twelve is a lot molden but you

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<v Speaker 1>but you really don't know what the twelve is until

0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:19.040
<v Speaker 1>bang twelve smacks you in the face, runs over you.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven that got decleted, Yeah, and the only thing you

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<v Speaker 1>can think of is something that less brown. Safe. When

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<v Speaker 1>you get knocked down, if you can look up, you

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<v Speaker 1>can stand up. Yeah, but sometimes it hurts going down.

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<v Speaker 1>You get up, you dust yourself off. But there's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit you know, you don't You're just not sure,

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<v Speaker 1>lovey kid. I think it'd be fantastic. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how his career is going to go because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of it depends on where he gets drafted,

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<v Speaker 1>how he heals up, tell you what a turf toe

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<v Speaker 1>playing on that artificial turf is not gonna make it

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<v Speaker 1>feel better. Um, but you just being the same. You

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<v Speaker 1>are a unique person, You are well worth it, you

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