WEBVTT - John Norman: 160 Platelet Donations (Pt 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's Bill Courtney with an army of normal folks. We

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<v Speaker 1>continue now what part two of our conversation with John

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<v Speaker 1>Norman right after these brief messages from our general sponsors.

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<v Speaker 1>The YouTube video I've seen a five minute YouTube video.

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<v Speaker 1>Who made that?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually? The Blood Center that I go to.

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<v Speaker 1>To give yous use an example of a guy that's

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<v Speaker 1>constantly given play.

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<v Speaker 3>With Yeah, exactly, And I don't remember exactly. I had

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<v Speaker 3>been contacted before. I take that back years ago as

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<v Speaker 3>one of their campaigns. They said tell us your story

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<v Speaker 3>and this I'm like halfway through this journey now, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I've been telling.

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<v Speaker 2>Stories, so I'm going to tell you about me telling stories.

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<v Speaker 3>And I got contacted and they did a little blurb

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<v Speaker 3>on me on their website that which is great, but

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<v Speaker 3>you have to you have to be somebody like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to go to the Blood Center website today and

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<v Speaker 3>look around.

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<v Speaker 2>Look there's John Norman did day.

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<v Speaker 1>How many people are hanging around looking at the blood

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<v Speaker 1>side or website and wish you need blood.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing against them because people do go there. But it

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<v Speaker 3>was nice to be featured a little bit. I got

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<v Speaker 3>I went out for a couple of photo shoots with

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<v Speaker 3>them for some of the things that didn't end up happening,

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<v Speaker 3>and then a couple of months ago, their media guy

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<v Speaker 3>called me up and said, hey, we're looking to do some.

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<v Speaker 2>New emotional videos.

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<v Speaker 3>The cool part it wasn't just for external they're using

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<v Speaker 3>it for internal uses. In the first place that they

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<v Speaker 3>showed that video was in they're all hands meeting with

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<v Speaker 3>all of their employees to remind them why they do

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<v Speaker 3>what they do. All those vampires got into one room

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<v Speaker 3>and watch the video about John Norman doing that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, wow, that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>That is cool. But here's the here's the thing, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I asked. The very last three seconds, it

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<v Speaker 1>comes up and it says over eight over a period

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<v Speaker 1>of eight years, John has donated.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred and six five now would be one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty five on.

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<v Speaker 3>Friday, one hundred and sixty five times. I've donated one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and sixty five times in eight years.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's and that is about five So I never.

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<v Speaker 3>Counted it that way, and until you asked me that

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<v Speaker 3>just a little bit ago. So I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how I would calculate those units. But one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and sixty times is for me. I just counted as

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<v Speaker 3>ones going in, but it might be three times that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So, And I think of some of.

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<v Speaker 3>The people that I've that I've talked about, one in particular,

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<v Speaker 3>who just passed away in November, she needed ninety as

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<v Speaker 3>just as part of her cancer treatment. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>other people that I shared about had leukemia also and

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<v Speaker 3>she needed three hundred units of blood and platelets or

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<v Speaker 3>blood products to finish getting through her treatments.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's without them, yeah, or is being able to

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<v Speaker 2>take treatment?

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<v Speaker 1>What I guess that's the thing is do you have

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<v Speaker 1>you take the time to translate that eight years one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty five times, which is five hundred units

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<v Speaker 1>robbably translates to three four five hundred loves.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>You can save up to three lives with a blood

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<v Speaker 3>donation or a platelet donation.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I guess that's pretty good math.

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<v Speaker 1>What does it make phil like?

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<v Speaker 2>What? It feels great?

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<v Speaker 3>And frankly, just after eight years you talk about commitment

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<v Speaker 3>and opportunity and passion, it's become a passion for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm committed to do it. The opportunity came once.

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<v Speaker 3>At my office, right with this blood drive and then

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<v Speaker 3>that walk with my friend where I learned how important

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<v Speaker 3>it was. I'm really excited because, look, I'm here with

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<v Speaker 3>Bill doing a podcast that other people might hear, and

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<v Speaker 3>that might increase that three percent to four percent. And

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<v Speaker 3>if telling other people's stories in my history and convince

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<v Speaker 3>some other people to do that, then that's cool. That

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<v Speaker 3>feels really great. I was excited to come here just

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<v Speaker 3>because of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me a few of the stories that you've highlighted

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<v Speaker 1>that our listeners will be like wow, wow, Not that

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<v Speaker 1>any of them are more important than the others. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>we're not trying. It's not a competition at all. But

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to have a couple that are near and

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<v Speaker 1>dear to.

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<v Speaker 3>Your there there are several that are near and dear

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<v Speaker 3>to my heart. One of the first ones that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of it got a little bit bigger for me was

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<v Speaker 3>so I told you earlier before we started.

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<v Speaker 2>Today, I was in the biking community and one of

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<v Speaker 2>you falling off your bike off and that was really impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'd want to be part of

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<v Speaker 1>that community, but ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>The bicycling community, it's amazing, and we did cyclic cross races,

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<v Speaker 3>we did mountain bike races, and especially the mountain bike races.

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<v Speaker 3>These are on on the weekends and it's everybody from

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<v Speaker 3>six year olds through seventy year olds racing these races

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<v Speaker 3>out in the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Big family camp out and it becomes a family for you.

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<v Speaker 3>We take care of each other. In fact, when I

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<v Speaker 3>did have that crash, it was the biking family that

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<v Speaker 3>picked up the pieces, hooked up my camper and drove

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<v Speaker 3>it over to the hospital. While well, Michelle and my

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<v Speaker 3>kids were there with me. One of one of the

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<v Speaker 3>fathers of a kid that raced with my son contacted me.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, you know, we're doing a charity event for

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<v Speaker 3>best friend of my son, Peyton Alexander, who has discovered

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<v Speaker 3>that she's got ing saracoma canceled seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, I think, maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just breaks my work. You're already breaking my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>And I even heard the story just lining up the

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<v Speaker 1>words answer and seventeen years old, when you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be embarking.

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<v Speaker 3>On, you're finishing up high school, you're about to go

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<v Speaker 3>to college, and you're about to start your life and answer, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're going to do this event called peddling for Peyton, Like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>that sounds cool through that and unfortunately I was not

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<v Speaker 3>able to make the event, but it did become sort

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<v Speaker 3>of a It became sort of my first story or

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<v Speaker 3>several stories.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did get to meet her later. I had

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<v Speaker 2>never met heered.

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<v Speaker 3>This was the best friend of his son, and our

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<v Speaker 3>bike bicycling commuter community was from all over the state,

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<v Speaker 3>so he didn't even live near us. But Peyton didn't

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<v Speaker 3>only care about herself. She as a bar of her treatment,

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<v Speaker 3>discovered the Ronald McDonald House and the fact that they

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<v Speaker 3>needed blankets, just at least blankets because when people come

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<v Speaker 3>and stay there, the Ronald McDonald House will give them

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<v Speaker 3>blankets while they're there that they can take home with

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<v Speaker 3>them keep. And she said, you know what, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to do a blanket tying event down our local library.

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<v Speaker 3>If you can come, bring some blank go buy Walmart

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<v Speaker 3>and get a bunch of five dollar blankets and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>cut them up and tie them together and make some

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<v Speaker 3>more blankets for Ronald McDonald house. Like so, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>make your event, but I want to come meet you

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<v Speaker 3>and learn more about you. And I show up and

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<v Speaker 3>it was Peyton and a bunch of her high school

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<v Speaker 3>friends and her parents.

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<v Speaker 2>And a couple of other people, and this weird old

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<v Speaker 2>and this weird old dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly who was this now fifty some year old guy

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<v Speaker 3>just wandering in?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I tie blankets with you? I know you've never

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<v Speaker 2>met me before?

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<v Speaker 3>I had, I had asked ahead of time. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>this might sound weird, but because of your friend, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to know a little bit more about you.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a fun day. I don't tie blankets very

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<v Speaker 2>well either, so but it was.

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<v Speaker 3>But she over over the years, ended up tying with

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<v Speaker 3>her friends and community members hundreds of blankets that ended

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<v Speaker 3>up going to Ronald McDonalds. She her cancer went into remission,

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<v Speaker 3>really exciting, but then it came back. She underwent a

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<v Speaker 3>stem cell transplant her own cells. I can't remember exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what type of stem cell treatment that is, but my

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<v Speaker 3>dad had it too, same thing my dad did. It's

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<v Speaker 3>going through his cancer, but basically that that's stem cell treatment.

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<v Speaker 3>They take your platelets for a while, the patient's pay platelets,

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<v Speaker 3>and they keep them and then they zap.

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<v Speaker 2>You with a super high dose of chemotherapy.

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<v Speaker 3>With the plan of killing all the cancer cells, but

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<v Speaker 3>because it's so high dose, it kills all your bone

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<v Speaker 3>marrow and everything else that needs to be in place

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<v Speaker 3>for you to survive. So as soon as that's done,

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<v Speaker 3>they put stem cells back in you with the hopes

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<v Speaker 3>that your bone marrow will kick in again, producing everything live.

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<v Speaker 3>And it works for some people. It worked for my

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<v Speaker 3>dad for a while too. Lance Armstrong did this. He's

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<v Speaker 3>still alive, so it's it's a treatment that sometimes works. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>she was in remission for a little while longer, but

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<v Speaker 3>came back and and and Peyton passed away a number

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<v Speaker 3>of years ago, But going to that was the first

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<v Speaker 3>funeral that I ever went to with somebody that I

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<v Speaker 3>had connected with told the story about. But I've been

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<v Speaker 3>talking with Kim, her mom, before coming here, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you're okay with me mentioning your daughter's name,

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<v Speaker 3>because I want to honor her as part of why

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<v Speaker 3>I still.

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<v Speaker 2>Do this, and it's important for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm missing they're doing a golf not golf outing barbecue

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<v Speaker 3>foundering for the Peyton Alexander Foundation now that they've started,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm missing it because I'm here. But I said,

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<v Speaker 3>this is pretty cool reason to mister barbecue. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to Memphis and I can have some barbecue there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well where barbecue where?

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<v Speaker 3>Where this is in Milwaukee, they're calling it a barbecue whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to if they should have a barbecue fundraiser.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, let's go to the fundraiser. That is heartbreak it

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<v Speaker 3>is And Peyton connected me through you in starcoma as

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<v Speaker 3>a childhood cancer. Mostly childhood cancer. It's the same cancer

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<v Speaker 3>my dad had. It's only maybe one percent of adults.

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<v Speaker 3>One of Peyton's I was connected to Katie, who is

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<v Speaker 3>another one that I've really connected with and the family.

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<v Speaker 3>Again virtually, I have not met Katie. She lives in

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<v Speaker 3>Reno and Nevada. I live in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. But Katie

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<v Speaker 3>was an amazing person who was also a giver and

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<v Speaker 3>an advocate for cancer research. She just passed away in November.

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<v Speaker 3>But I wouldn't have known about Katie or the amazing

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<v Speaker 3>things that she did. And if you look her up,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll give you a link later.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look her.

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<v Speaker 1>Up, you give now.

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<v Speaker 3>If you look up Katie's collect on Instagram, you'll find

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<v Speaker 3>everything you need to know.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll see, you'll see videos of that.

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<v Speaker 3>She was highlighted quite a bit because of how amazing

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<v Speaker 3>she was and how she lived with her cancer. Her

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<v Speaker 3>hashtag now that was created when she died is live

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<v Speaker 3>life like Katie. She loved National Parks and it was

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<v Speaker 3>her goal to visit everyone. I think she made it

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<v Speaker 3>to twenty some and several of them a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>them after she started getting cancer because she didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to skip out on life just because of this disease

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<v Speaker 3>was in her. She wanted to live life. She didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know when her last day was.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back, so we could say, wow, give

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<v Speaker 1>all this blood and give all these cancer, all these playlets,

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<v Speaker 1>and these people are still cancer. My answer would be

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<v Speaker 1>quality of that life they get living with cancer. Good

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<v Speaker 1>happen out bludd. Even if they don't survive and go

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<v Speaker 1>into permission, their lives are still enriched and prolonged by

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<v Speaker 1>this gift, the simple gift of sitting on your for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes for blood two hours or platelets and giving

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<v Speaker 1>so that you or someone you love will have what

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<v Speaker 1>they need.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's another statistic.

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent of us are not going to live forever,

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<v Speaker 3>but so if by giving blood or platelets. You can

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<v Speaker 3>let somebody live another day or a week, or a

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<v Speaker 3>month or years. It's all the same thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we just need to let people live. And if this

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<v Speaker 3>can do it, then why not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so simple, an army of normal folks candidly, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not We're nobody's ever going to mistake Alex for

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<v Speaker 1>being particular, right so or or no one's ever going

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<v Speaker 1>to say, well, my goodness, look, look look at the

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<v Speaker 1>look at the I mean, we should do a thesisis

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<v Speaker 1>on billing this army. I mean, this is just simple stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's normal people seeing here is the need filling it,

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<v Speaker 1>celebrating those stories and hopes of surviving, hopes of inspiring

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<v Speaker 1>more to do more. Right, this is so simple that

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<v Speaker 1>we have had on some guests with some pretty complex

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<v Speaker 1>things and that they would have to have a certain

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<v Speaker 1>skill set to actually go do those things. So while

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<v Speaker 1>we celebrate them and hopefully inspire them, there's really a

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<v Speaker 1>small community people that can do what some of those be.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody can do this pretty much as long as you

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<v Speaker 1>pass it. But at least everybody could go get tested

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, and then two thirds of us can

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<v Speaker 1>do it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>What also too, if you can't do it, they have

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<v Speaker 3>volunteered drivers to drive this blood to the hospital. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a volunteer that whenever I'm done, it gives me cookies

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<v Speaker 3>and a can of cranberry juice.

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<v Speaker 2>When I'm done, you get cookies and cranberry juice.

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<v Speaker 1>That's enough reason to do it right now.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys have Panera bread here? Yeah, Panera donates their

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<v Speaker 3>day old bread. Those boxes of Panera bread that I

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<v Speaker 3>can pick up pick from.

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<v Speaker 1>Really they do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's always boxes of that there and good for

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<v Speaker 2>bread by the way, a little plug for them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but sometimes that's what shapes the meal I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to cook that Friday night. Well, I'm not exerting myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody should be doue. Yeah, and you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>have any skill set. You don't have to have anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Just have a willingness and if somebody wants to follow.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a social media person, Okay, I mean I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on it and all that, but I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>use the wrong words all the time. Now, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>crap about it. You're not really on it.

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<v Speaker 4>There's you have an account, but you haven't been on

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<v Speaker 4>it yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>See I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, see, there you go. So how does somebody find

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<v Speaker 1>your stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>So you can find on Instagram. My Instagram handle is

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<v Speaker 3>port Norman, so port like Port Washington Norman like my

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<v Speaker 3>last name JPN to my initials, so Port Norman JPN.

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<v Speaker 1>And pictures and the stories and the people that you're celebrating. Wow, donate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, you can read the stories and see the pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>I always put pictures of them because there's always a

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<v Speaker 3>picture of.

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<v Speaker 2>Me at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you see me sitting in a chair, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a trigger that this is going to be one of

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<v Speaker 3>my platelet posts. And actually looking through it, there's more

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<v Speaker 3>of those than a lot of my other Because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sixty years old now, I'm not really good at social

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<v Speaker 3>media either. I struggled to get it shared on Instagram

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<v Speaker 3>and Facebook at the same time. And Facebook, I think

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<v Speaker 3>if you just look up John Norman, I don't know what,

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<v Speaker 3>there's probably a ton of them, but you could probably

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<v Speaker 3>that Instagram is going to be more easy because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't On Facebook. I share more to my friends and

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<v Speaker 3>not public.

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<v Speaker 2>On Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>I leave it public because I want if I share

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<v Speaker 3>about somebody and it can and it triggers somebody to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to try this, or you should read this story.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want them to send a link out to

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<v Speaker 3>somebody and have it block.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to continue the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. So when you go there, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of you first, and it's a picture of the

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<v Speaker 1>person you're thinking about that day, yep. And then their

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<v Speaker 1>story of their fight with whatever they're afflicted with, and

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<v Speaker 1>why their strength inspires you to continue to do this

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, all of which, if you ball up,

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<v Speaker 1>is intended to inspire others. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty much it. Sometimes it's a short story, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>a little longer.

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<v Speaker 1>But after the Shop Talk episode, we army member Keith Bauch,

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote us, and I'm telling you this because he

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<v Speaker 1>gives Keith thank you all respect. Your post was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>You sit over there, hush Bill and Alex. Good morning

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<v Speaker 1>from tropically cold Minnesota. Clearly this came from a few

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<v Speaker 1>months one of my neighbors. I want to be part

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<v Speaker 1>of the army that moves the amount of blood donors

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<v Speaker 1>from three to four percent, even three to three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. I've given blood in the past, but never

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<v Speaker 1>on a consistent basis. I'm going to do my best,

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<v Speaker 1>try and give once a month from now on. Your

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<v Speaker 1>guest has inspired me to do this. It was interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because about a week after your episode, I was listening

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<v Speaker 1>to another podcast about the need for blood, plasma and

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<v Speaker 1>platelet donations. Another reason for me to give. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a daughter in college that gives plasma twice a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for beer money.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's for beer money. Yeah, it is for

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<v Speaker 1>every buddy. But I shared your podcast with her to

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<v Speaker 1>reinforce the benefits of what she is doing. Guys, keep

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<v Speaker 1>doing what you're doing inspiring us normal folks. Here's why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm calling that out just a little bit. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>deserve the credit for doing what we're doing inspiring normal folks.

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<v Speaker 2>One time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all of the stories and all the people that

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<v Speaker 1>are inspiring. All we are is the conduit. I read

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<v Speaker 1>that to you because this gentleman has clearly been inspired

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<v Speaker 1>to do this very thing because of it's awesome. It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy your neighbor. Do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea who Keith is. Never heard that

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<v Speaker 2>name of it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's from your neck of the woods.

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<v Speaker 3>He's Minnesota. We don't talk about that. I'm a Packers fan.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a Vikings fan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you don't know might have to reach out

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<v Speaker 1>to this. I might lightly suggest that part of your

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram stories could be about guys like him to inspire

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<v Speaker 1>others as well. It doesn't just have to be the

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<v Speaker 1>people getting the play. Someone who's been inspired by your

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<v Speaker 1>story could maybe inspire someone else. When I read that

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<v Speaker 1>we do. We get lots of emails and correspondence. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>read every bit of it. I'll respond to every bit

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But when I read this and then I

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<v Speaker 1>think about how you reached out to us, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think about your story and the connectivity of it all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of makes the fact that Alex about a year

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<v Speaker 1>and a half ago made me start doing this dumb

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<v Speaker 1>thing all worth it. So respectfully, I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we're inspiring anybody to be one normal folk one at

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<v Speaker 1>a time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think you should give yourself a little more

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<v Speaker 3>credit though, too. I stumbled on your podcast and what

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<v Speaker 3>are you doing? This is different than me. You're sharing

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<v Speaker 3>other people's stories. It inspired me to reach out to

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<v Speaker 3>you because I think the army of normal folks idea

0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:06.240
<v Speaker 3>is it's so easy, like you said, and you do

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<v Speaker 3>what you can do for one person. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>books that I meant to bring I work at Harley Davidson.

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<v Speaker 3>This is so This is a Bike, a book that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of reached out to me literally from a Minnesota

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<v Speaker 3>used bookstores I was walking through and it's called Nice Bike,

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<v Speaker 3>Nice Bike, and it's it's a collection of stories that

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<v Speaker 3>the author put together, Mark Sharon Brock, I think is

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<v Speaker 3>his name, and I want I want to read.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote this down because I had to. I had

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<v Speaker 2>to go look it up again.

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<v Speaker 1>But what he.

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<v Speaker 3>Focuses on and his his theory is that the three

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<v Speaker 3>things that you need to do to make people's lives

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<v Speaker 3>better is to acknowledge them, honor them, and to connect

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<v Speaker 3>with them. And by acknowledging, honoring, and connecting with people,

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<v Speaker 3>you can change the world, one person at a time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's always been in the back of my head too

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<v Speaker 3>ever since reading that book, also at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing, and I think, I think that goes

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<v Speaker 3>a long way. It's simple acknowledge, honor, and connect and

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's what we do. That's what you're doing. You're

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<v Speaker 3>you're honoring people for the cool stuff that they do,

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<v Speaker 3>even if it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Normal, it is cool. And it's also only three rather

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<v Speaker 1>than twelve, so it's a lot easier to remember than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Scouting still had to write it down, though, didn't they

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<v Speaker 2>for sixty give yourself a break.

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<v Speaker 1>Memory, I don't know. So there you have it, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so easy to be an army of normal folks.

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<v Speaker 1>And Alex some months ago made the really good point

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<v Speaker 1>that I've kind of tagged on and I continue to say,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you can serve without even leaving the house.

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<v Speaker 1>There's typically people down the hallway that needs service. You

0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:57.679
<v Speaker 1>can serve without starting some massive organization. You can go

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<v Speaker 1>sit for two hours every two weeks with the new

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<v Speaker 1>in your arm and save three lives. You have taken

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<v Speaker 1>it to a whole other level by honoring and acknowledging

0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:13.960
<v Speaker 1>the stories of these people that you hope will inspire

0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:17.840
<v Speaker 1>others to give. And it's worked because Keith from Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>send us an email saying the very same thing, Keith,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you are listening and we'll reach out to

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<v Speaker 1>John and y'all connect. You're too close to one another

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<v Speaker 1>not to because apparently that's the third activity I spike

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<v Speaker 1>is to connect.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep, for sure, And I would I would love

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<v Speaker 3>to get messages from people.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to learn more, I'm happy to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to share too, that I've hit one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and sixty donations. There are some people that there are

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<v Speaker 3>people there every other week when I go that are

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<v Speaker 3>the same people. Oh and Chris and a few other

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<v Speaker 3>people that I've met, and they're kind of my platelet buddies.

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<v Speaker 2>Every other week.

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<v Speaker 3>There's not the same people because you know, you go

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<v Speaker 3>on a trip and all of a sudden, you're every

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<v Speaker 3>two weeks is off. But I know there's a person

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<v Speaker 3>I've connected with in Sweden who is he's at two hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a guy at Versity.

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<v Speaker 3>The blood center that I go to that is close

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<v Speaker 3>to five hundred donations. That's he started donating platelets when

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<v Speaker 3>in like nineteen eighty or something like that. Now he's

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<v Speaker 3>eighty three years old and he's still going in every

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<v Speaker 3>other week to donate platelets.

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<v Speaker 1>But see, as beautiful as those people are, that story

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<v Speaker 1>is a little bit of the problem that you see

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<v Speaker 1>the same people over and over again. Oh this is

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<v Speaker 1>there need to be enough people giving that you don't

0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:57.640
<v Speaker 1>know all of the people giving. So hopefully we can look.

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<v Speaker 1>If this conversation moves the needle just a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more life saved. And you are a beautiful example

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<v Speaker 1>of what we are trying to inspire people to do,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just give where you can. And you've turned

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<v Speaker 1>it into a passion and a story and everything else,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's awesome. But it's so easy give when you can.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, I think the Red Cross receives

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<v Speaker 1>almost forty percent of the blood given.

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<v Speaker 2>Possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Not very hard to find the Red Cross, Nope, not

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<v Speaker 1>very hard to find a blood center. If somebody wants

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<v Speaker 1>to reach out to you and connect, let's best way

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<v Speaker 1>to get in touch with John.

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<v Speaker 3>You can DM me through Instagram or if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to just use a regular old email.

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<v Speaker 2>It's easy too.

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<v Speaker 3>So my email addresses John John at Portnorman's dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Port like Port Washington Norman like my name, with an

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<v Speaker 3>s atdn dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>One thing that John and I talked about in advance

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<v Speaker 4>of the interview too is listeners can reach out and

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<v Speaker 4>share story ideas for him too. So people who are

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<v Speaker 4>going through cancer, habit cancer, people who have been beneficiaries

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<v Speaker 4>of blood products.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be great for Army members to share that

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<v Speaker 1>is a really good point. You have somebody dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>this right now, and you want to do one of

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<v Speaker 1>the three steps and honor them, do another one of

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the three steps with and connect with John, and then

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>John will do one of the three steps and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>share their story.

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<v Speaker 3>Or hey, if you feel like doing just doing the

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 3>same thing I'm doing. Sitting there in your chair. You

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 3>got one arm free, you grab your phone and tell

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<v Speaker 3>your story or tell someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you can somehow connect you to it. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>you can share it.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Yeah, and shread this around a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>One more thing before you wrap up your routine beforehand

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 4>is pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 3>So it has become a habit. And now it's also

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<v Speaker 3>a routine. It's always a Friday morning at six o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>I've tried going in in the afternoons before, but as

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<v Speaker 3>it turns out, I'm a coffee addict, and I will

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<v Speaker 3>drink coffee all day. And you know, there's a problem

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 3>if you drink coffee all day and then you go

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<v Speaker 3>and sit in a chair and are expected to be

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<v Speaker 3>still for two hours, it doesn't work.

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm overhydrated and I'm gonna need to pee well up

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<v Speaker 2>and it probably does jump.

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<v Speaker 1>A catheter.

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<v Speaker 3>They would offer one, I'm sure, but I'm not interested

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<v Speaker 3>in going there at One of the things that our

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 3>blood center used to do is it's similar to platelets.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called granulocyites, and it's these are not universal. There's

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<v Speaker 3>very specific to a person in the types of proteins

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<v Speaker 3>that they have in their blood. And I was asked, actually,

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<v Speaker 3>twin brother thing. They called me up and they said,

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<v Speaker 3>your brother sent us your way because we need somebody

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 3>with exactly your blood type in this protein combination to

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<v Speaker 3>donate granular sites for a cancer patient that is in

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<v Speaker 3>the hospital waiting for your granular.

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<v Speaker 2>Sites literally literally.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's one time where you knew exactly what you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing and exactly where it's going.

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, and they were, they were they were

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:15.439
<v Speaker 3>calling because this particular therapy that this is like a

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<v Speaker 3>last ditch effort when they get to the point where

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.679
<v Speaker 3>they need granular sites like this. And they were lining

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<v Speaker 3>up not just me, but five or six other people

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<v Speaker 3>to donate every day for a five or six day period.

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:32.680
<v Speaker 3>And for that one they literally told me, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>care if you have to beat you can, We'll get

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:37.920
<v Speaker 3>you depends or something. But you're going to stay here

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 3>until we got everything that we need to get out

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 3>of you. And with with with platelet donations. If they

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 3>have trouble getting the needle in and it doesn't work,

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:48.440
<v Speaker 3>then you just try again another day with the granular sites.

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 3>They're like, we'll keep sticking the needle in there until

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 3>we find the right spot. This arm doesn't work, we'll

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.880
<v Speaker 3>use the other arm. If that doesn't work, well, pray

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 3>a leg or something.

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And there's a person literally right there that if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't give they die.

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 3>Good chance of that, yep, because they they they line

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 3>you up and the striper're able to find out.

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 2>No, they for privacy.

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 3>But do you wonder I would love to meet a

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 3>recipient someday I have actually been not mine, I mean,

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 3>I've met all these other connections.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, so it's it's pretty durrank.

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<v Speaker 1>Close to your morning routine, John, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry they eat so my morning routine now on Friday morning,

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<v Speaker 3>I get up at four point thirty.

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I hit the snooze maybe once or twice.

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.960
<v Speaker 3>I grab a shower, then I the blood center is

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 3>about a half an hour drive from my house.

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I stop at McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 3>I always get a sausage McMuffin with egg and a

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 3>hash brown and a small coffee.

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 1>So clearly you don't have to eat healthy food to

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>give platelets.

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, they do tell you to eat, but they don't

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 2>stay healthy.

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 3>And I'm figuring, you know, if I'm going to save

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 3>three lives today, I can have a sausage McMuffin.

0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I actually love it.

0:28:58.080 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 2>It's like five.

0:28:59.640 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing they do when you get when you

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 3>get there, those they take your blood pressure and I'm like,

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 3>I often blame the hash brown because it's pretty salty

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:09.000
<v Speaker 3>and stuff.

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:09.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's a health check basically every two weeks and

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 3>if I.

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Can pass, and I'm like, yeah, so that's it.

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>That's it.

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Then I go in and I mark the box it

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 3>says I've done this before.

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>And your twin brother doesn't confuse them, no.

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 2>And they so it is a health check. They'll do.

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 3>There's a questionnaire that you have to fill out so

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 3>that they can tell you whether you're eligible or and

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 3>it's fifty questions every time, and it's and you so

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 3>you notice this when you did your blood donation, right,

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 3>It's everything.

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 4>It's what John's getting at. As they ask your sexual history.

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 2>They questions, have you ever been paid to have sex?

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 3>Have you had sexual contact with I mean, it's probably

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 3>fifteen questions just about.

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I think there's but it's I think there's time Lisa

0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 1>would pay me not to have sex. If you want

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to know the true that's an.

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 3>Add on question depending on how you answer the first one.

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 3>But it's because they want your your blood product to

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 3>be healthy for the recipient. Of course, it also gets tested,

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 3>so I figure I'll be the first to know if

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 3>I end up.

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>If you had up for something, you'll be the first

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 1>to know.

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anything else you want to coverage, John, Not that

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 2>I can think of.

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 3>The only the only thing that I was reviewing some

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 3>of my notes this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>That and I think I may.

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<v Speaker 3>Have mentioned this to you Alex later on after our

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 3>pre interview, was that my dad passed away from cancer

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<v Speaker 3>in two thousand and four, of youing Saracoma. My mother

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 3>in law died also. They both died at the age

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 3>sixty three. My mother in law died of cervical cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>And I didn't start this donation have it until twenty seventeen,

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 3>so was that thirteen player. I didn't start telling the

0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 3>stories till after that, And I think that for me,

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<v Speaker 3>the reason I have this Beyond Grief book here too

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 3>is because it's a double whami sometimes. And I got

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 3>introduced to the grief community through the same habit by

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 3>meeting these two people, and.

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 2>It has allowed me to process.

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 3>Some of the grief of me losing Dad, and it's

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 3>allowed me to dig in a little bit deeper to

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 3>what he went through with the answer and what I

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 3>got out of being his son for sixty three years.

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Sixty three years, I'm sixty nine, say I was born,

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, just for being his son. And as I

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 3>was reading through my notes of I did an Instagram

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 3>take over for a week where I shared about my dad.

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:48.239
<v Speaker 3>This was in twenty twenty twenty, and that was so

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 3>cathartic for me. Part of it was about the cancer,

0:31:50.680 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 3>but part of it, part of it was about him

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 3>living life like Katie. He was the first example of

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:01.280
<v Speaker 3>live life like Katie. Katie was a reminder for me.

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 3>They revisited this and got into these stories.

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's interesting the storytelling process that all this is

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>actually healing for survivors very much.

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 2>So it's healing for me.

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 3>I like you've said so many times in your guests too.

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 3>I get ten times as much out of this as

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 3>anything I'm giving. I mean, I'm donating my platelets, but

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 3>this is it's healing for me to tell somebody else's

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 3>story and to learn more about my dad, just because.

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful side benefits of the whole gig.

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it could be. You two, go give it a try.

0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>That's it, John, Thanks for taking the time to come

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 1>down here and share your story. Thanks for what you're doing,

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for bringing me, thanks for being an inspiration. And

0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I really hope, against hope that people listening to us

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 1>today will say, Okay, this is an easy one.

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go, hope, So and let me know if

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>you do.

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to let John know. He'll tell your story.

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a pyramid that gets.

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<v Speaker 1>An email us and let us know, because who knows

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.280
<v Speaker 1>who might read your name one time and Alex may

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>call you up and bother you. You never know. Thanks

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>for being here, buddy, Thank you appreciate it, and thank

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>you for joining us this week. If John Norman has

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>inspired you in general, or better yet, to take action

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>by donating blood, platelets or something else entirely, please let

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>me know because I am really interested in seeing if

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>our country can move the needle beyond three pitiful percent.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear about it. If you donate blood,

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>or patments, plasmo or any of it, let me know

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:01.000
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