1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Suxton Show podcast. Those chants echoing in the streets of 3 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: Cuba as massive protests have for the first time since 4 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four broken out in the streets, the American 5 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: flag being waived as a symbol of freedom. Everyone on 6 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: pins and needles to see whether this could grow into 7 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: a more substantial uprising weather After three generations over sixty 8 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: years of communist rule, the people of Cuba may finally 9 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: be able to stand up for themselves. What is the 10 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: fallout going to be? How can we in America support 11 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: the millions of Cubans who want to have the same 12 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: freedoms that we take for granted every single day? And 13 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, is there any way that we could trade 14 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: some of our communists in the United States for some 15 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: of the freedom loving Cubans in a nice little pay 16 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: for play there and let the socialist and the communists 17 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: see what living in a government like that is actually like. 18 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: There's so much to discuss surrounding this. I think it 19 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: is the biggest story that is going on right now 20 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: in the world. And I know you similarly to me 21 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: or moved by the videos that you saw and the 22 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: chance that we just heard coming into the Monday edition 23 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: of the program. I think everybody has to know this 24 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: is unprecedented. This has never really happened before. Are on 25 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: the same scale on the island of Cuba in living memory, 26 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: where you've had so many protests in so many places 27 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: and people going out. This is in a true police state, 28 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: a true communist regime, a country that is in essence 29 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: a relic of the Cold War in the truest sense. 30 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: It's the last remaining in some ways I mean this, 31 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: and maybe you could say North Korea, though North Korea 32 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: is quite different relic of the old Cold War. And 33 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: there are people who are marching in the streets Clay 34 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: and they're saying, we're not scared of you anymore. They 35 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: are so frustrated and so tired of the authoritarianism that 36 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: has ruined what should otherwise be a happy and prosperous 37 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: and free country because there are commies in charge. And 38 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: so there's there's a couple of levels here. Right On 39 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: the one hand, there's this the immediacy of trying to 40 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: focus in on this and give support from the international community, 41 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: from the Cuban American community in this country, speaking out 42 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: in favor of what could be the beginning of the 43 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: end of the communist regime, although Cuba watchers that I 44 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: know who are very up on this say don't go 45 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: too fast. The repressive mechanisms in place have lasted sixty years, 46 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: and they can be very durable even in a situation 47 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: like this. We don't want to get ahead of ourselves. 48 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: But this is unprecedented, and this is a moment where 49 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: we see both an opportunity for tremendous for a tremendous 50 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: change in the lives of over ten million Cubans. And 51 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: also you're seeing the underbelly of the Democrat party here 52 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: and there. Let's just be frank about it, the commie 53 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: sympathy that still is very widespread within elite Democrat circles. 54 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: I've had people tell me in the policy community in 55 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours, the way the State Department 56 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: responds to this, the way the Democrats are responding. If 57 00:03:54,320 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: these were transactivists or climate change activists with thugs attacking 58 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: them and imprisoning them in the streets, this State Department 59 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: or Biden would be calling for the eighty second Airborne 60 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: to land and take over the country. But because it's Cubans, 61 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: and the Cuban American population doesn't fit into the tidy 62 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: Democrat mold of what a minority population is supposed to be. 63 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of I think shame that should 64 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: be attached to the Democrat Party's approach to Cuba over 65 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: the last fifty plus years. There's this Okay, we want 66 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: freedom and you can I know you pointed out to 67 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: be played the statement from Biden. They're going through the motions, 68 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: but they're not all in on Cuban freedom and the 69 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: Democrat Party not even close. There's a headline up on 70 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: Politico right now. Protests in Cuba may pose a big 71 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: test for Biden and Florida Democrats, and I just popped 72 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: out of tweet saying it's supporting protests in a communist 73 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: country in favor of freedom and democracy is a quote 74 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: big test for you. Your party's morally bankrupt and building 75 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: on what you have said, remember that Colin Kaepernick, the 76 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: patron saint of anti American sentiment in much of pop 77 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: culture in the United States, when he began to kneel 78 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: for the national anthem. The day that he did that, 79 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: the day that he refused to stand for the national anthem. 80 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: He showed up in a Castro shirt, literally showed up 81 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: in a Castro t shirt right after refusing to stand 82 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: for the national anthem, and like many leftist he then 83 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: praised everything in Cuba. And there's an interesting editorial up 84 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: right now in the Wall Street Journal which points out 85 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: Buck and I hadn't spent a lot of time thinking 86 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: about this, that one of the ways that Cuba funds 87 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: its government right now is by sending its doctors and 88 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: nurses overseas, getting compensated in their real dollar value, taking 89 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: all of that money themselves, and then paying those doctors 90 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: and nurses a fraction of what they would otherwise earn. 91 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: It is basically human trafficking, obviously of a different nature 92 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: than we are used to. And one of the issues 93 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: associated with that is COVID increase the overall demand for 94 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: doctors and nurses around the world, and Cuba sent their 95 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: doctors and nurses to other capitalistic countries that have the 96 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: money to pay for more doctors and nurses and has 97 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: not kept people at home. So even the vaunted educational 98 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: system that supposedly in the free healthcare and everything else 99 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: that you're left wingers, you're Bernie Sanders of the world 100 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: want to point to as a strength of Cuba has 101 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: actually broken down and as part of the fuel that 102 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: is furthering these protests right now. But I think buck 103 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: the big question is what can we do as Americans 104 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: to help lend support to these protests so that in 105 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: an ideal situation we could have a twenty first century 106 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: version of the Berlin Wall coming down, obviously in Cuba 107 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: instead of in Europe. The first thing would be the 108 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: Biden administration doing more than just words on this one, 109 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: and that would mean diplomatic action, and I would say 110 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: action against Cuban diplomats immediately start to say, will restrict 111 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: your trade also one of the important restrict your travel 112 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: rather one of the important and trade. Remember, the Cuban 113 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: regime and the Cuban economy are effectively one and the same. 114 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: So the military, the security apparatus, all of those controls 115 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: of this authoritarian state. They control both the means of 116 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: production and its distribution. This is a true socialist, communist society. 117 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: So the way we could deal with this, I think 118 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: in the short term the Bide administration should take immediate 119 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: steps to punish diplomats and make it very clear and 120 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: This is something the Trump administration did as well, by 121 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: expanding the list essentially the restricted list of people who 122 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: will you can't do business with who are tied to Cuba. Right, 123 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: it's effectively very targeted sayings. But we should let all 124 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: the wealthy, all that connected in the Cuban apparatus, the 125 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: Cuban government and all of its repressive mechanisms. We should 126 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: tell them in no uncertain terms, and I mean from 127 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: Biden's own mouth, he should say, every person that we 128 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: see on video, you know, bludgeoning a protester, every officer 129 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: that is that is picking people up off the street 130 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: or picking up family members, another preferred tactic of the 131 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: terror regime, they should expect that when they want to 132 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: visit the United States, when they want to actually engage in, 133 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, their trade, their their economic best interests, We're 134 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: going to come down on them like an anvil. But 135 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: this is the problem, and you already alluded this with 136 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: the fact that Cuba's sending that has been sending doctors 137 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: where the places. The narrative from the Democrats immediately is 138 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: almost like they don't have enough masks and vaccines. If 139 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: only doctor Fauci was in Cuba, this would all be okay. 140 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: Shortages are nothing new in Cuba. The analysis we're seeing 141 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: from the from them, from the media Clay is absurd. 142 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: They've had shortages for sixty years. This is the breaking 143 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: point they're at. It's not just a COVID shortage, There's 144 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: no doubt. And also it's important to note that medical 145 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: supplies are not in the Cuban government is trying to 146 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: blame the United States as has been there there want 147 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: to do for sixties plus years for any sort of 148 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: issues that exist in their country. It's important to note 149 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: that the embargo does not stop Cuba from being able 150 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: to bring in medical supplies. Right. So this idea that 151 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:35,359 Speaker 1: the United States is somehow creating and the COVID related crisis, 152 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: to the extent that this is related to COVID, I 153 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: think it's just an amalgamation of everything that is coming 154 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: to ahead all at once. Well, we want to do 155 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:48,239 Speaker 1: by the way, we want to target calls Cuban exiles, 156 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: people with Cuban family. We want you to call in 157 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: and let us know what you are hearing and what 158 00:09:55,559 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: you are seeing eight hundred two eight two eight two. 159 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: Again only Cuban expats, people with Cuban family people who 160 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: may be hearing some stories from inside of Cuba right now. 161 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: What are you hearing about these unprecedented protests that are 162 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: currently taking place inside of Cuba. Also, we should mention 163 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: buck that, not surprisingly, the Cuban government has called upon 164 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: citizens to go out into the streets and fight anybody 165 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: who is protesting in favor of freedom, in favor of 166 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: democracy in Cuba. So we may be seeing videos of 167 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: violent protests as we have confrontations in the streets that 168 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: are being encouraged. Again, we're opening up phone lines for 169 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: those particular callers eight hundred two eight two two eight 170 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: A two. And we also want to let you know 171 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: the secret is out. 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Welcome back to the Clay Travis and 191 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Buck, here we are taking calls eight 192 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: hundred two A two two two. Want to hear from 193 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: people who fled Cuba or have family that immediate family 194 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: members who fled Cuba. The Cuban American community. Want to 195 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: hear what your thoughts are on this situation as it 196 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: plays out. So last night there was a tweet that 197 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: got a lot of attention from the Acting Assistant Secretary 198 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: for US Department of States Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs. 199 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: Quite a mouthful there, but the tweet was peaceful, protests 200 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: are growing in Cuba. As a Cuban people exercise their 201 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: right to peaceful assembly to express concern about rising COVID 202 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: cases and medicine shortages. We commend the numerous efforts of 203 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: the Cuban people mobilizing donations to help neighbors in need. Clay, 204 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: That's not the tone that one would expect when we're 205 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: talking about an uprising of the people, and perhaps even 206 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: an insurrection of the people, a real one against a 207 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: kleptocracy that has had his street of not just repression, 208 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: but I mean extrajudicial, extra judicial killings, torture, imprisonment without 209 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: without trial, and whenever things got too rough for them politically, 210 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: they just started exiling people and sending them on rafts 211 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: to drown possibly or be eaten by sharks on their 212 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: way into this country. And yet the State Department doesn't 213 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: there doesn't seem to be a lot of a lot 214 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: of anger. I mean, I know, you have a statement 215 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: from Biden that's at least expressing some solidarity with freedom, 216 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: but I'd like to see a lot more. Yeah, And 217 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: I that's why I'm saying, and again, I want to 218 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: hear from people who are who are Cuban American who 219 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: who have family that are involved right now in these protests. 220 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: White House just released a statement. I don't think that 221 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: Biden has said anything publicly, but the statement says, we 222 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: stand with the Cuban people and their clarion call for 223 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: freedom and relief from the tragic grip of the pandemic 224 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: and from decades of repression and economic suffering to which 225 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: they've been subjected by Cuba's authoritarian regime. The Cuban people 226 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: are bravely asserting fundamental and universal rights. Those rights, including 227 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: the right of peaceful protest and the right to freely 228 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: determine their own future, must be respected. The United States 229 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: calls on the Cuban regime to hear their people and 230 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: serve their needs at this vital moment, rather than enriching themselves. 231 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: So that is a statement just released by the White House. 232 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: What we are talking about, buck is I think the 233 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: big question what can United States and what can we 234 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: do to help fuel these protests to a further extent 235 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: to allow this to lead somewhere different than all protests 236 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: have led to in the past, which is still with 237 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: this regime in control over the past three generations plus. 238 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: It's big balancing act even for the best of administrations, 239 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: which we certainly don't have, because you don't want I mean, 240 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: already the Cuban government, all right, already the Cuban regime 241 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: is saying that they view this as outside provocateurs and 242 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: that this is this is essentially American. American agents in 243 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: one way or another are behind this, right and the 244 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: new president, not relatively new, the first one who's not 245 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: a castro Diaz kanell Uh, he's he's a party functionary 246 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: within the Communist Party. I mean, when you you hear 247 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: this guy's the first secretary of the Communist Party at Cuba, 248 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: it's a reminder. I mean, this is real communism, folks, 249 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: this is what we thought. We defeated him in Clay. 250 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: You mentioned the fall of the Berlin Wall, but this 251 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: is a vestige of that of that era. And so 252 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: we want to express solidarity and take actions against the 253 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: regime outside of Cuban borders. But we also don't want 254 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: to get We don't want to give them any opportunity 255 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: to suggest that this is actually from because what they're 256 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: gonna do is justify the repression, and they're going to 257 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: use the propaganda apparatus they have to say This is 258 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: US defeating those those Yankees, those North American, those North 259 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: American US agents provocateur. That's basically what they're gonna say. 260 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: So we don't want to do too much, but the 261 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: administration's got a lot of tools at their disposal. Well, 262 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: and what's what's difficult here, Buck, And this is why 263 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: I would make the analogy. We saw all the protesters 264 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: in Hong Kong saying we need democracy, and the thing 265 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: that they were protesting with in Hong Kong most prominently 266 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: was the United States flag. And really, unfortunately, I think 267 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: we turned our back on Hong Kong. And now what 268 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: all those people protested about has officially taken place. China 269 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: has come in and taken over Hong Kong. So you 270 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: had all these Hong Kong protesters who were hoping that 271 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: the United States was going to in some way back them, 272 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: and they fell effectively under the under the scope of 273 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: Chinese dominance. And now obviously we're talking about what might 274 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: happen in Taiwan. But when I see that powerful moment 275 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: on the streets of Cuba, and I see people having 276 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: the bravery to bring out the United States flag as 277 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: a symbol for hope, freedom, justice, it just makes me 278 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: want to do something that allows more to occur. This 279 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: is incredible bravery that the Cuban people are showing, but 280 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: we know what's coming. It's the jackbooted, thuggish performance by 281 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: this communist government in Cuba that's going to try to 282 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: stifle all protests and they're already putting forward. You can 283 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: see there's there's footage. I mean a big change now 284 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: too is because of the proliferation of social media platforms, 285 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: but also the ability to take video and share these things. 286 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: Now that people are saying they're not afraid, we're seeing 287 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: much more of what's going on than we would have 288 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: at any previous time. Of course, now the Cuban regime 289 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: is trying to find ways to shut down the platforms 290 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: and the internet at all, all the usual tools of 291 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: the tyrant. 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Speaking of Rolling In, we got 322 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: a lot of Cuban American callers who want to weigh in. 323 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: Bucking you and I want to continue this conversation and 324 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: about the larger issue of Cuba as protests are taking 325 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: place right now at the largest level against the government 326 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: there since nineteen ninety four, and I want several of 327 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: you to be able to interact, and we are going 328 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: to go. I'm not great on the pronunciation here, Buck, 329 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: did you get the caller's name here? I'm gonna go 330 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: with Bonnielle, but I could be wrong. Yes, Bonnielle will 331 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: say it. You can correct us if we're wrong. In 332 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Yeah, that's that's enough. There we go, Buck Buckets. 333 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: The Buck always delivers Clay close enough. All right, what 334 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: have you got for us? Okay? Well, have you got 335 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: for you? It's about um police self recessions and all 336 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: those cities. They take off the church. Um, they much. 337 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: They said to the government. When DS kind of said, 338 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: I need every cumanies guy outside right there, I'm fighting 339 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: against Cuban and against Cuban, they said, we don't go 340 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: up with any Cuban. They they they begin to march 341 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: with the protest too. So the police were called out 342 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: to help regulate the protests. And what you have heard 343 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: is that many of the police in Cuba also then 344 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: began to support the protests that are breaking out in 345 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 1: favor of for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They take it 346 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: off all the church, They thrown away all the boches, 347 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: and they said that they don't gonna beque any cue. 348 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. Yeah, we'll take you want 349 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: to do? Joe Joel in UH North also in North Carolina, 350 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: North Carolina as well, Joel, are you with us? Yes, 351 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: I'm yeah. What are you hearing? I'm I'm hearing. I 352 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: received a few videos from UH from our friends, I'm 353 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: family in Cuba, and I'm hearing I already some of 354 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: the videos already, um already that they're um. The people 355 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: they call up for people, they're not weighing any uniforms 356 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: right now. They're using like civils, like regular clothing, and 357 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: they're knocking on doors, arresting people over there and like uh, 358 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: in like Santiago in Cuban, in the west side of Cuba, 359 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: they are already people are they already they were killed 360 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: in there? Joel, you were born, you were born in Cuba. 361 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: Do you still have a lot of Cuban family. I'm 362 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: assuming as well. All my family, almost all my family 363 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: is down there. I've been here for twenty one years, 364 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: and uh, to see what's happening right now, it should 365 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: be a wake up called for the American people over 366 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: a year and we really need some help. The government, 367 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: the United States government should help those people because people 368 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: are starting there. They're dying from in salvation there in Cuba. 369 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: And now this is the time I would say, this 370 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: is the time I never seen. I'm forty nine years old, 371 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: I never see such a that many people to be 372 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: interest with you on the street. Yeah, Joel, we know 373 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: this is unprecedented. And thank you for calling in sharing 374 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: your perspective on it. And I would just say, Clay, 375 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, she said there there's there's a lesson and 376 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: as I've been saying, there's two things simultaneously happening. There's 377 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: the foreign policy opening here. I mean, a crisis is 378 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: an opportunity, and this is an opportunity perhaps for the 379 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: Cuban people to be put on a pathway to achieving 380 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: true freedom for the first time. But there's also the 381 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: lessons that we take from this. You know, this is 382 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: a regime that for a long time. You know, obviously 383 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: we had the Bay of Pigs fiasco, and then because 384 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: of Soviet economic and military support, the very close Soviet relationship, 385 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: they were effectively a protectorate. The Cuban government. The Cuban 386 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: regime was a protectorate of Soviet Communism until the nineteen nineties, 387 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: so it hasn't been that long that they've actually had 388 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: to stand on their own. Of course, it's just been 389 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: economic deterioration and misery. But when you think about how 390 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: this is a country where friends of mine who come 391 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: from Cuba will tell stories of their parents or their 392 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: grandparents burning garlic on purpose, because to cook beef that 393 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: you got from the black market that wasn't on the 394 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: approved list in the government store was an offense you 395 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: could be imprisoned for. And then you have us celebrities 396 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: and you know, actors and rappers and people praising Oh Cuba. 397 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: Look Michael Moore's Michael Moore's documentary. You see all this happening, 398 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: and you say, these people have been friends to this 399 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: tyranny for a long time. And I think that they're 400 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: concerned with the recognition in the general public's mind of 401 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: what the heck were the Cuba apologists thinking this whole time, 402 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: and at this whole thing top it will become much 403 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: more clear. What can we do to help it hopple, 404 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: help it topple? Sergio down in Port Saint Lucy, Florida, 405 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: his father fought in the Bay of Pigs. He says, Sergio, 406 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: what did you hear from your father? And what should happen? 407 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: What should the United States government do that Back in 408 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: the day, you didn't have the technology you have today. 409 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: You don't have the Internet that you could see things. 410 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: My father was put in a truck and tortured with 411 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: nowhere with belt buckle. He was open. He opened the 412 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: little hole in the truck to be able to breathe out. 413 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: He was tortured every day, and finally he was traded 414 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: for medicines and brought back to the United States. But 415 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: right now over there, what's happening. They're trying to shut 416 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: down the Internet, which they did so no one will 417 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: see what's going on. But what we've seen so far 418 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: is they've beating people from even journalists. They beat over there. 419 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: They shooting at unarmed people. They're going house to house 420 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: arresting people. When they arrest them, it ain't guess they 421 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: put you in jail. They'd beat the living daylights out 422 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: of you and then put you in jail. I mean, 423 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: it's sad. The good thing is people are now starting 424 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: to see what's going on over there. It's the old 425 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: type of communism that they really don't care about anything 426 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: about free press or anything else. What should Americans do? 427 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: Your father experienced literally beatings at the hands of the 428 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: Cuban government. This has been going on for sixty years. 429 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: We're seeing an unprecedented uprising. What in your mind should 430 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: the American government do. They need to push for a change, 431 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: which is what the people want. What Cuba does is 432 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: shut them down and then don't let them talk, don't 433 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: let them express what they really want in the country. 434 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: People want freedom there and as long as the United 435 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: States allows Russia to protect them, it's going to continue. 436 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: They need to show the world, what's going on over there. 437 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for calling in surgery. We appreciate 438 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: the perspective. We're to come back in plan. I'll talk 439 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: to you more about the lesson, both the lessons of 440 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: this and the possibilities of what is happening in Cuba 441 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: right now. 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Today, we're gonna be talking a 478 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 1: lot about this, Clay just one thing, as we are 479 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: already seeing and hearing from people who are getting word 480 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: from Cuba, they're trying now to lock this whole thing down, 481 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: and every thug regime in recent years that they have 482 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: a pretty similar playbook where they'll try to shut down 483 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: communications and then they'll deploy a combination of uniform security 484 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: forces but also a lot of people who are auxiliaries, 485 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: if you will, of the police state, who are wearing 486 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: civilian clothing, and they try to turn the people on 487 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 1: each other. I mean, even in Syria they had this Sabiha, 488 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: which was like a loosely affiliated militia and their whole 489 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: job is to go around and just terrorize people. But 490 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: it's not the state doing it, right, That's what's happening 491 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: right now in Cuba. So that raises the issue that 492 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: I know you and I are pushing back and forth, 493 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: and some are calling in to say, which is, at 494 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: what point does the US decide to do even more? 495 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: I think, and I've been arguing this for decades, So 496 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: some people are going to think I'm crazy on this. 497 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: I think the US should consider military intervention to support 498 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: Cuban protesters seeking freedom and democracy. Now, the challenge domestically 499 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: for that buck, let's not even talk about the international component. 500 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: The challenge domestically to that is will Bernie Sanders, will 501 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: the squad? Will they support basic human rights, freedom and democracy? 502 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: Or would they put the pressure on Joe Biden and 503 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: the Democratic administration? Because I do think if we take 504 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: a step back and look at Republicans, whether it's Marco Rubio, 505 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: whether it's Ted Cruz with Cuban backgrounds, they have been 506 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: so aggressive in being outspoken about the Republican Party that 507 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: I really don't think there's very many people in the 508 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: Republican Party that would be opposed to this. Right, Oh yeah, 509 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: I think right now we're just leaving Afghanistan and to 510 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: even talk about any kind of military action in Cuba 511 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: is going to have a lot of conservatives. I feel 512 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: like Part two, I understand it, But there are eleven 513 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: million people ninety miles from US in in the Caribbean. 514 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: We have got or close to the Caribbean. We have 515 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: got opportunities. I think galore right, I understand the reticence 516 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: and the nervousness. But for decades I have felt that 517 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: America turned its back on Cuba, that we were fine 518 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: to say, oh, we'll say nice things. We support democracy, 519 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: we support freedom. And if you study at all, and 520 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: I did a little bit because I lived in the Caribbean, 521 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: I lived in the US Virgin Islands and spent time 522 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: down there, if you study things at all, I mean bucket. 523 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: Wasn't that long ago that people would hop on speedboats 524 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: and go down to Havana. It was one of the 525 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: great destinations of the forties and fifties for United States, 526 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: the cross pollination there to me, allowing Cuba to live 527 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: in this backwards, isolated universe that they do and occupy 528 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: such a close proximity to US. I am in favor 529 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: of being as aggressive as we possibly could to once 530 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: and for all overthrow the communist government there. Twenty years 531 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: now of US military intervention and then counterinsurgency and then 532 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: nation rebuilding. I'd be very curious if people of you 533 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: know what what, because this could be interesting. You might 534 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: have a folks who fled the regime personally and have 535 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: that that feeling of both both betrayal and the and 536 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: they have a really clear visceral sense. I mean, they 537 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: feel the evil of the Cuban regime in a way 538 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: that I mean, that's why I to walk around college 539 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: campuses with Chega Vara t shirts on. They're just idiots. 540 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: They don't know it. They don't know what they're doing, 541 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: they don't know what they're supporting. But there's been this ignorance. 542 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: But you know, when you talk, so there's the we 543 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: don't want to get involved in any kind of a 544 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: military capacity. I'm just saying that's a broad sentiment right now, 545 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: and it's obviously one that I would say, you know, 546 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: that's how I would feel about this at this point. 547 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: Would be over in a month, Buck, I think in 548 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: a month Cuba would be a democratic republic. I'm getting 549 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm getting some Wolfowitz vibes from that one, man. I'm 550 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: getting some. They're gonna greet us as liberators and the 551 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: Cuban people are pushing back on the regime right now. 552 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: The regime is weak that the people are united against it. 553 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: You know, this could be the beginning of the end. 554 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm also talking about the repression apparatus, because remember the 555 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: first goal of a communist regime like Cuba's is to 556 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: stay in power. Nothing else matters beyond that. I mean, 557 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: one of the reasons the Syrian Civil War was so 558 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: intractable and Assad, even though it's back up against the wall, 559 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: seem like he was gonna go but didn't. It was 560 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: because the Assad regime has been practicing how to do 561 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: anything and everything to stay in power for longer than 562 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: you and I have been alive. Like that's that's their 563 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: reason for getting up in the morning. The Cuban police state, 564 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: the same thing applies. And then the other issue, and 565 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: we can get more into this than Clay and I are. 566 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: Clay is like ready to go. He's ready to go, 567 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: saying that we need to go full bay of pigs. Obviously, 568 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: I'd want to win, unlike in the sixties, But I 569 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: think the idea if they are going to be going 570 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: door to door, it seems to be occurring right now, 571 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: and people who are protesting in favor of democracy are 572 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: being dragged out of their homes and they are being beaten, 573 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: and family members are and we already know the decrepitude 574 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: in which that that kleptocracy, as you said, I think 575 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: it's accurate, has descended into over the past years. I'm 576 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: ready to end the Cuban issue once and for all 577 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: and allow because they's not going to it's not going 578 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: to be an in and out situation if we were 579 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: to do anything involved there. And also then how long 580 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: are we going to be? Already got military bases on right? 581 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: That is? That is true. I mean, there's there's a 582 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: reason why we have the very uh strained relationship, shall 583 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: we say, with the Cuban regime that we do for 584 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: very long time, because to get guys in and out 585 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: of Cuba has long been militarily not difficult. You have 586 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: to remember who who has the guns and who's in charge. 587 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: Right now, those people are going to fight, probably to 588 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: the bitter end, because they understand that in any unless 589 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: you do some kind of reconciliation commission, there's a lot. Look, 590 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's impossible, but the people that have 591 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: been kidnapping people's relatives, torturing them politically repressing them for 592 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: for decades are the one going to Venezuela. Buck. We 593 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: let him move to Venezuela and with with with another 594 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: cleptocracy that had been allied with them. We let him 595 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: just flee the country, even gonna up you're gonna dump 596 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: all the worst on on Venezuela. You're gonna dump the 597 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: thugs of the communist regime in Cuba Venezuela, and I 598 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: think you mentioned this Venezuela and has been also receiving 599 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: doctors and help. I mean, there's this this long standing 600 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: Latin American Cuban axis of communist access. Rather from Cuba 601 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: supporting Nicaragua, Cuba supporting Venezuela, Cuban sent the Cubans sent 602 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: soldiers into Angola a long time ago. So wait, we 603 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: got we got to actually get back into some of 604 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: these calls though too we Clay, are we can wore 605 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: game out crazy or is there a solid cadre of 606 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: support there we can war game Clays Clay second Invasion 607 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: of Cuba where we come back in a moment, talk 608 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: to some callers about what they think about that. Um, 609 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm skeptical, but then again I was, you know, I 610 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: saw what happened in a Rock and Afghanistan, So that's 611 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: gonna add a lot of skepticism to a lot of people. 612 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two eight two two eight A two eight 613 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: hundred two a two two eight two on Alliance Play 614 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: and buck dot Com. Also, Clay really important piece here. 615 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: Some silence from the squad, from Bernie Sanders say nothing, 616 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: some all of a sudden, some Democrats don't have a 617 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: lot to say about human rights and democracy and basic decency. 618 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: We will hold them to account because we know that 619 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: over at CNN they're just gonna have lots of stories 620 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: running about the January sixth insurrection For the next few days, 621 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 1: we'll dive into it with you, and also a big 622 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: meeting with Biden and law enforcement talk about it coming up. 623 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: You're listening to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the 624 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: EIB Network.