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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Jana Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Jana Kramer and welcome to a special

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Speaker 1: mini episode of wind Down, brought to you by Honest. Today,

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Speaker 1: we're diving into something every parent knows all too well,

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Speaker 1: the beautiful chaos of raising little humans. Every stage comes

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Speaker 1: with its own, wild, wonderful challenges, and to talk about

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Speaker 1: it all, I'm here with a few of my mom friends,

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Speaker 1: Ashley Aikenetti and Jenna Ushkowitz. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: what surprised us, what we wish we'd known, and how

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Speaker 1: we've learned to sort of keep up as our babies

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Speaker 1: grow and through it all, we'll talk about how the

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Speaker 1: right support can make a big difference, like Honest new

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Speaker 1: and improve clean conscious diapers, which are made to meet

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Speaker 1: parents where they are, no matter what stage they're in.

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Speaker 1: So let's get into it, Hi, ladies.

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Speaker 2: He Hello.

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about how Jenna like literally has an

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Speaker 3: aged ever who's you.

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Speaker 2: Exactly frozen in time at like twenty four? Really not?

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Speaker 1: And i haven't done botox in over a year and

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Speaker 1: I'm really starting to see my wrinkles now. I'm struggling,

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Speaker 1: like I'm having a struggle with it because it's like

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Speaker 1: I really don't want to do it, but I do

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Speaker 1: want to do it, and I but I don't but

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is I just wanted to do it.

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Speaker 4: Look in the mirror at all, and I'm like, fine,

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Speaker 4: this is great. It's so much better for me. But

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Speaker 4: then you're like, oh.

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Speaker 1: God, it's when the makeup starts to crease that like

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Speaker 1: really kills me. And then I've watched a few movies

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Speaker 1: that I film this year and I'm like, oh, like

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Speaker 1: that's deep. But it's fine. We're moms, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: allows to age. This is exactly we're allowed to age.

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Speaker 1: And I'm trying to because okay, for the listeners, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: you've got two boys ages again.

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Speaker 2: One just turned one and then the other one is three.

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Speaker 1: And a half. Wow, okay. And then Jenna, what is it?

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Speaker 2: Boy girl a girl?

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Speaker 4: Boy? First, she's three and my son is eight and

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Speaker 4: a half. Oh nine months?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I yeah right here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys were in it truly. Yeah, and we're

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Speaker 1: in it with all the stages too, because I have

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Speaker 1: a almost ten year old girl, an almost seven year

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Speaker 1: old boy, and then I have an almost two year

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Speaker 1: old little boy. Yeah, So I mean just all the

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Speaker 1: stages here we come, yeah, you know, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: but let's let's go back because I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: it's so funny to talk to different moms because everyone

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Speaker 1: has a favorite stage, and for me, it's always been

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Speaker 1: the infant stage. I literally just said to my husband

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Speaker 1: yesterday he was holding one of my friend's little girls,

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Speaker 1: and we don't have we don't share a biological girl together,

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Speaker 1: like he's obviously stepfather to my daughter. But I was like,

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Speaker 1: you look so cute with a girl, Like don't you

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Speaker 1: want another baby? And he's like no, He's like you do.

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Speaker 1: I go yes, ye, Like you wouldn't be so cute.

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Speaker 5: Girl.

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Speaker 1: I mean you were right right because you've got two boys.

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna go again?

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Speaker 3: No? I I literally can't relate because I love the

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Speaker 3: toddler face so much more. My one year old is

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Speaker 3: just like coming into his own like he was learning

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Speaker 3: how to high five yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is what I was waiting for.

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Speaker 2: Both my kids were.

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Speaker 3: Really hard, like zero to one year olds and then

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Speaker 3: one to two was I don't know. I mean with

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Speaker 3: it was like smooth sailing. He's an angel, Like, I

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Speaker 3: can just handle it so much better.

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Speaker 2: I have no desire.

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Speaker 3: I see these Instagram reels that's like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: like getting the baby craving again, and I'm like, I

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Speaker 3: have no baby craving. If we could skip to two,

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Speaker 3: I'd be like, all right, now we can consider having

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Speaker 4: Wow. My uh my favorite is engine like eight months

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Speaker 4: nine months, so we're deep in like my.

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Speaker 1: Favor, You're starting to see the emotions and oh smile,

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Speaker 1: so yummys.

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Speaker 4: I just don't my my my husband is used to

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Speaker 4: like three. She turned three. They have like their own

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Speaker 4: feel like the this infant phase, you can like they

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Speaker 4: and there really are like coming into their own.

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Speaker 2: So I don't want another child. I just want time

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Speaker 2: to stop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel that I would love to stop. Three

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Speaker 3: and a half right now is such a perfect age.

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Speaker 3: He's just endearing and he's saying just the most incredible things,

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Speaker 3: like you guys are Yesterday, I said to him when

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Speaker 3: he was going to bed, will you go to a

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Speaker 3: Backstreet Boys concert in jonahs Pler concerts with me when

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Speaker 3: to go to a Jonahs concert right now when I'm tiny,

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, this is my perfect match in life.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, what.

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Speaker 1: Was your most memorable I know you said you obviously

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Speaker 1: love the toddler better stage, but what is your most

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Speaker 3: I loved newborn because newborn they're just so cozy and

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Speaker 3: cuddly and they were easier and I don't know, my

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Speaker 3: kids became like fuss City at three months.

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Speaker 2: Wow, just so fussy.

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Speaker 3: I don't know whether it's they want attention constantly, but

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Speaker 3: like they needed to be stimulated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now I get that. I personally love that you

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Speaker 1: could just hold them and they because right now Roman

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Speaker 1: he is. He's my middle son, who's a boy. He

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Speaker 1: just it's like, what we have an actual animal in

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Speaker 4: I think that early stage, like they we were contact

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Speaker 4: nappers from my daughter was a contact napper and like

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Speaker 4: with your first you don't know, you're just supposed to do.

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Speaker 4: They're like, don't contact nap, You're going to ruin their sleep.

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Speaker 4: But like it's what she loved and it worked for us.

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Speaker 4: but he does not do that. He I'll put him

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Speaker 4: missed that like contact time. But this age, that eight

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Speaker 2: That, and it's so cute.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so sweet. And Jenna, I'll say this, I

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Speaker 1: regret not doing the I've never contact napped my first two.

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Speaker 1: it's great because they can sell sooth and they go

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Speaker 1: my last Like why did I do this and I

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Speaker 1: missed the snuggles.

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Speaker 4: I know, because my daughter will still snuggle, but said,

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Speaker 4: he's like, no, see, did.

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Speaker 1: You guys ever freak out about the umbilical cord and diapers.

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Speaker 2: A little bit? Yeah? It felt weird. It felt weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, well, I gotta shout out to honest,

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Speaker 1: size one, So if there's mamas out there and you know,

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Speaker 1: their Clean Conscious diapers. So things like that, I feel

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Speaker 1: like amazing. I didn't have that on the first I didn't,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the amount of things like even our parents

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Speaker 1: You were growing up. We just left the door open.

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Speaker 1: You know, you guys, imagine what they put on us.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what I mean, Like, now we've

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Speaker 1: got you know, honest diapers, they're hyper allergenic, fragrance free.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even what did they put on

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Speaker 3: So I mean, seriously, imagine what's to come in twenty

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Speaker 3: have that back then. It's like, what is it going

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Speaker 3: to be like a little incubator thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, at least like robots changing diapers for us. Yeah, honestly,

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Speaker 1: like we're we're good and with the brands like honest

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Speaker 1: to keep us knowing that we are putting things on

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Speaker 1: our babes that are that are good, And that makes

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Speaker 1: me it's so hard being a mom and there's so

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Speaker 1: many things being thrown at you and there's so many

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Speaker 1: It does.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I say that I'm not a crunchy mom, but

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Speaker 3: I'm a little crispy.

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Speaker 1: You know, Yes, I'm might be fried.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly exactly.

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Speaker 3: So it's like I will do what I can and

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Speaker 3: using an honest, diaper is one of those little things

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Speaker 3: that you can do, yes, to keep things cleaner around here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. Okay, so most of us are

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Speaker 1: in the toddler phase. So girl, Actually, I think we

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Speaker 1: talked about this. I'm like, three is where I struggle.

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Speaker 3: it just it just depends on the kids. And I

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Speaker 1: That's why every baby needs to be in honest Ashley,

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Speaker 1: I think anything goes on a plane. All we don't

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Speaker 2: Come right on a plane. Exactly. He doesn't even know

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Speaker 2: What next?

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Speaker 1: Do you wish someone told you about the toddler face?

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Speaker 3: The particularness, like my three year old is just very

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Speaker 2: Interesting, No, this is this my three year old, So

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Speaker 1: That's okay, it's okay particular. Yeah, that's good. That's a

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Speaker 4: No, because I see that, Like my husband and I

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Speaker 2: It's not in a mess situation. I'm not OCD like that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like if I don't touch the light switch

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Speaker 3: Like if he doesn't shake his milk and he doesn't

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Speaker 1: about childhood And I'm kidding.

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Speaker 2: The whole Dad's side similar, we're.

439
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Speaker 1: All learning things right, and I feel like the best

440
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Speaker 1: thing I wish someone you know, told me that to like,

441
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Speaker 1: and I think that's what I'm doing now is I'm

442
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Speaker 1: embracing it more. It's like he is. We just started

443
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Speaker 1: two days in preschool because I just want he's a

444
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Speaker 1: little I think behind in the the talking and his words,

445
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Speaker 1: so I thought it'd be, you know, good for him

446
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Speaker 1: maybe to be around kids for two days a week,

447
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Speaker 1: and I stress so much when he doesn't get his

448
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Speaker 1: nap in preschool because he's not used to the COT.

449
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Speaker 1: It's like I am trying to not stress out so much.

450
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Speaker 1: I'm like, if he misses the long nap or if

451
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Speaker 1: he doesn't get this, like, he will be okay, we

452
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Speaker 1: just put him to bed early. And I think back

453
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Speaker 1: in the last two I would literally lose my mind

454
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Speaker 1: stress so much that I would like me and my

455
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Speaker 1: husband wouldn't fight, or just because I just was like

456
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Speaker 1: overwhelmed with the pressure and the stress of making sure

457
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Speaker 1: he got a nap, and it's like, you don't, It's

458
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Speaker 1: he'll be fine if he misses a nap. He misses

459
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Speaker 1: a nap and it's all good, try again tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I feel like having multiple children definitely like that like

462
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Speaker 4: mel Robbins let them kind of theory of like you.

463
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Speaker 2: Just have to you just have to go with it.

464
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Speaker 4: Like I've even gotten a little bit, uh, Jenna, I

465
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 4: was like you with my daughter with the naps and

466
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Speaker 4: the bedtime, like it was on the dot, if not

467
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Speaker 4: two minutes before and if not, like it stressed me out,

468
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Speaker 4: it stressed her out. Like the whole family felt that.

469
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Speaker 4: So I think with my second he was he's much

470
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Speaker 4: more you know, You're like well he'll nap or he won't.

471
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Speaker 4: And if she has a thing, then will he won't nap.

472
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Speaker 4: And it's calmed me down in her like for her

473
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Speaker 4: schedule and her routine as well, in a way that

474
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Speaker 4: I think has like helped the whole family, helped her,

475
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Speaker 4: helped him. Like it's just it's calmed us all down

476
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Speaker 4: a little bit that.

477
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Speaker 5: Like everything's gonna be fine.

478
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Speaker 4: And there is so much pressure and there's so much

479
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Speaker 4: information out there that you're ingesting every day. You should

480
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Speaker 4: do this, you shouldn't do that, Like do this, don't

481
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Speaker 4: do that, that's bad for you. But if you're doing this,

482
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Speaker 4: like it's just it's like too much, and like you

483
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Speaker 4: just have to listen to like the instincts that are

484
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Speaker 4: inside of you.

485
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Speaker 1: You know it's best for your kids.

486
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Speaker 4: So like I wish somebody had just told me, like

487
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Speaker 4: ignore the noise and go with your in with my

488
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 4: first we did this Mommy and Me class and it

489
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Speaker 4: was still kind of COVID times actually, like you know,

490
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Speaker 4: like it was we were still kind of in that

491
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Speaker 4: like coming out phase of like yeah, yeah, And and

492
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Speaker 4: we did Mommy and Me on Zoom and I was breastfeeding,

493
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Speaker 4: but a lot of these moms are doing formula, which

494
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Speaker 4: is amazing, like that is best whatever, you know, how

495
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Speaker 4: your child's getting their nutrition. Great, But they were talking

496
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Speaker 4: about like ounces and all these things and take them

497
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Speaker 4: out of this new get that, throw that snow out

498
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Speaker 4: of your house, and like it was so old school.

499
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Speaker 4: And every time I walked away, I would walk into

500
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Speaker 4: this like mommy and me like I've got this. You know,

501
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Speaker 4: we're doing great. She's sleeping, and then I would walk

502
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Speaker 4: out of the mommy and me like zoom and click

503
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Speaker 4: out and be like I feel like a horrible mom

504
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Speaker 4: who has no idea what she's doing. And my husband

505
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Speaker 4: was like, stop going to this, just stop, like you

506
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Speaker 4: got this, We're good. So I just wish somebody had

507
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Speaker 4: told me, like chill, like just like listen to trust

508
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Speaker 4: your own moms. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and do what works

509
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 4: best for you generally on all things, because that transcends

510
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Speaker 4: like infant, you know, newborn, infant, toddler, like you just

511
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Speaker 4: have to like the school stuff that's coming now in

512
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Speaker 4: the preschools, and everybody is like it's crazy and there's

513
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Speaker 4: just so much noise.

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Speaker 1: So yep, yeah, actually, anything to add to that.

515
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Speaker 2: I feel like I've oddly been like pretty chill type. Ee, Mom,

516
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Speaker 2: I don't.

517
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Speaker 3: I didn't think that was gonna be in my nature either,

518
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Speaker 3: because I'm like more as far as like work and

519
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Speaker 3: myself like a minus type I and.

520
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Speaker 2: The scheduling is making me.

521
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Speaker 3: It's interesting because you guys both have like had strict schedules,

522
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Speaker 3: had them do sleep training, and here I am with

523
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Speaker 3: my second kid who just is still at like thirteen

524
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Speaker 3: months and not doesn't sleep through the night, has has

525
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Speaker 3: wakes up twice a night, and I can't. I think

526
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Speaker 3: my like achilles heel is just I can't do the sleep.

527
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't let him cry it out.

528
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Speaker 2: I can't. And my kids like scream. It's not like

529
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Speaker 2: they just cry, it's like they scream bloody murder in

530
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Speaker 2: the middle of the night.

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Speaker 3: My three year old is amazing as sleep now, but

532
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Speaker 3: as babies, both of them, just I can't get it.

533
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Speaker 1: That's fine.

534
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm like, people are like, don't give him

535
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Speaker 2: a bottle in the middle of night, like, let him

536
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Speaker 2: cry it out, and I'm right, oh god, I don't know.

537
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Speaker 3: This is me following my mom instinct, just like I'm

538
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 3: actually just gonna get up with him.

539
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Speaker 2: Every time he gets up.

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Speaker 1: And if that's what she want to do, that's what

541
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I need to sleep.

542
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Speaker 1: So that's why I did like this more than on

543
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Speaker 1: the sleep training stuff, because I know what I need

544
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Speaker 1: and I need a certain amount of hours or I'm

545
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Speaker 1: not the best, you know, version of myself. So for me,

546
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Speaker 1: it's like I had to do that. But at the

547
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Speaker 1: same time, like, yeah, there's times when I'm when I'm

548
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: nap training and stuff where my sleep consultant lady was like,

549
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Speaker 1: let him cry, and I'm like, I don't want to

550
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Speaker 1: go in and I'm gonna give him a little touch

551
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Speaker 1: on the back and just be like I love you.

552
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, does that work because it doesn't work for

553
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Speaker 2: my kids, No, it didn't work.

554
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Speaker 1: But then I had to let them cry it out.

555
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: But in their day, I needed to do it.

556
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

557
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's whatever works. It's whatever. Yeah, it's whatever works.

558
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Speaker 2: And you're your older kid sleeps.

559
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Speaker 1: Great, so like, yeah, it's the same thing with like

560
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Speaker 1: my daughter, she's dyslexic, she's you know, she's learning, she's

561
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Speaker 1: trying things, she's you know, working hard with with you know,

562
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Speaker 1: her schooling and stuff, and it's like listen. You know,

563
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Speaker 1: she's in fourth grade. She still messes up her d's

564
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Speaker 1: and b's. But I'm like, you know, okay, it's fine,

565
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: Like you're and she's like with tying shoes and stuff.

566
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Speaker 1: It's like you're you're not going to go to college

567
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: and not tying your shoes and not knowing what your

568
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: DNB is, you know what I mean, Like you will

569
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Speaker 1: be fine.

570
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Speaker 2: M hm exactly.

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Speaker 1: Totally get you the resources, get you the help, and

572
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Speaker 1: you know, not stress about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: People told me when my oldest was not walking at

576
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Speaker 3: like you started walking at seventeen months, probably really getting

577
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Speaker 3: the swing of that eighteen months and that's pretty old.

578
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Speaker 3: And people they're like, don't worry, he's not going to

579
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: crawl into kindergarten exactly.

580
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Speaker 1: Well, and also like Roman, he did not he had

581
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Speaker 1: maybe a week of crawling. I mean he was so

582
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Speaker 1: top heavy, like he was a literal meatball, and like

583
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: he didn't sit up until maybe eight months, but then

584
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Speaker 1: he was walking at ten.

585
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: Wow.

586
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: Like it was just like once he sat up, he

587
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not gonna crawl, I'm just gonna start walking. Yeah,

588
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: so you know, all all babies are different, and he

589
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: was truly just a big ahead like that was a meantball.

590
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: I love that literally what he was. He was a

591
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Speaker 1: meatball for Halloween two.

592
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: That was like, that's so cute.

593
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Speaker 1: And then when we got married, he was a meatball

594
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Speaker 1: in a kilts because my husband's Scottish, so he was

595
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: like in a kilt, just this big head.

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Speaker 2: Sweet.

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Speaker 1: Got to love them. But listen, like, we're not moms

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Speaker 1: this has been so great. Thank you for sharing your

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Speaker 1: your struggles, your triumphs and all the things with motherhood.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's great to have conversations like this

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Speaker 1: because we're all in it and we're you know, we

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Speaker 1: just have to uplift each other. And I'll never understand

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Speaker 1: moms that shame other moms because we're all just doing

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Speaker 1: our best for our kids and listening to our you know,

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Speaker 1: need to have people that like uplift and be like cool,

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Speaker 1: you want to sleep with your kid in bed every day? Awesome?

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Speaker 2: Great, do it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, whatever works for you, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: So I hope this conversation reminded you that no one

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Speaker 1: A big thank you to my amazing mom friends for

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