1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,628 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,708 --> 00:00:28,748 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. We're gonna welcome Annie and Rappaport, Tom Plaicero, 3 00:00:28,868 --> 00:00:32,508 Speaker 1: and Judy Bautista. The Deshaun Watson suspension news has arrived. 4 00:00:32,868 --> 00:00:36,548 Speaker 1: Six games and Ian has the latest. Ian after the 5 00:00:36,708 --> 00:00:39,828 Speaker 1: three day disciplinary hearing in front of Judge Shoe L. 6 00:00:39,988 --> 00:00:43,148 Speaker 1: Robinson in Delaware. And this has been what you know 7 00:00:43,228 --> 00:00:45,348 Speaker 1: so many in the NFL have been waiting for for 8 00:00:45,388 --> 00:00:48,188 Speaker 1: not just the last several weeks, but the last several months. 9 00:00:48,188 --> 00:00:52,908 Speaker 1: Ever since this Deshaun Watson situation arose multiple allegations of 10 00:00:53,108 --> 00:00:57,588 Speaker 1: sexual misconduct, allegations of violations of the NFL Personal Conduct Policy. 11 00:00:57,588 --> 00:01:00,908 Speaker 1: And this morning Sue Robinson informed all parties that it 12 00:01:00,948 --> 00:01:05,468 Speaker 1: should be six games, which means that Watson should return 13 00:01:05,588 --> 00:01:10,508 Speaker 1: if this holds on October twenty third against the Baltimore Ravens. 14 00:01:10,508 --> 00:01:13,628 Speaker 1: The NFLPA, on behalf of Watson have said they are 15 00:01:13,748 --> 00:01:16,868 Speaker 1: not appealing this ruling. They said this yesterday before the 16 00:01:16,988 --> 00:01:20,628 Speaker 1: ruling came out. No word yet from the NFL. A 17 00:01:20,628 --> 00:01:24,308 Speaker 1: couple particulars of this situation. First of all, Ford Deshaun 18 00:01:24,348 --> 00:01:28,068 Speaker 1: Watson under his previous contract, he would have lost more 19 00:01:28,108 --> 00:01:30,828 Speaker 1: than eleven and a half million dollars because of his 20 00:01:30,908 --> 00:01:34,748 Speaker 1: six games suspension now because his base salary is so low, 21 00:01:34,788 --> 00:01:37,708 Speaker 1: a lot more than forty five million, forty five million dollars, 22 00:01:37,748 --> 00:01:40,508 Speaker 1: I believe in a signing bonus. It's just three hundred 23 00:01:40,508 --> 00:01:44,388 Speaker 1: and forty five thousand dollars that he now loses. And guys, 24 00:01:44,428 --> 00:01:48,108 Speaker 1: there were settlement talks really over the last several weeks. 25 00:01:48,108 --> 00:01:50,068 Speaker 1: The NFL, of course, as we know, was pushing for 26 00:01:50,748 --> 00:01:54,868 Speaker 1: a year suspension. They really never got close on settlement talks. 27 00:01:54,868 --> 00:01:56,948 Speaker 1: They picked up back and forth over the last couple 28 00:01:56,988 --> 00:01:59,348 Speaker 1: of days, but in the end both parties decided the 29 00:01:59,388 --> 00:02:02,748 Speaker 1: best move was simply to wait for Sue Robinson's ruling. 30 00:02:02,948 --> 00:02:05,708 Speaker 1: It's not clear yet the NFL thinks is I don't 31 00:02:05,708 --> 00:02:08,468 Speaker 1: get the sense that Deshaun Watson those close to them 32 00:02:08,468 --> 00:02:11,628 Speaker 1: are particularly thrilled about this either. They thought it should 33 00:02:11,628 --> 00:02:15,708 Speaker 1: be less. But six games is what Sue Robinson landed 34 00:02:15,748 --> 00:02:18,708 Speaker 1: on and had long last some certainty in this situation, 35 00:02:18,948 --> 00:02:22,988 Speaker 1: just from a football sense. Football Jacoby Brissette now said 36 00:02:23,068 --> 00:02:25,268 Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback for the Browns for the 37 00:02:25,268 --> 00:02:27,628 Speaker 1: next month and a half. Absolutely, and it's been reference 38 00:02:27,708 --> 00:02:29,788 Speaker 1: that he is taking a lot of snaps up until 39 00:02:29,788 --> 00:02:32,148 Speaker 1: this decision was made. So Jacoby Brissette will now be 40 00:02:32,188 --> 00:02:35,788 Speaker 1: the starter for the Browns as we settle into this suspension. However, 41 00:02:35,828 --> 00:02:38,348 Speaker 1: many games it ends up landing on Tom PALLISERA, you 42 00:02:38,428 --> 00:02:40,788 Speaker 1: are in Cleveland. What is the sense you're getting right 43 00:02:40,788 --> 00:02:43,108 Speaker 1: now on this Watson decision now that it's been reached. 44 00:02:43,268 --> 00:02:45,508 Speaker 1: First of all, Jamie Deshaun Watson, I am told, is 45 00:02:45,588 --> 00:02:48,868 Speaker 1: in the building and expected to practice today as normal 46 00:02:48,948 --> 00:02:51,108 Speaker 1: with the Browns. It is common for players who are 47 00:02:51,148 --> 00:02:53,188 Speaker 1: suspended for less than a year to be allowed by 48 00:02:53,188 --> 00:02:56,668 Speaker 1: the NFL to participate in all activities, practices, and preseason 49 00:02:56,708 --> 00:02:58,908 Speaker 1: games all the way up until cutdown days. So the 50 00:02:58,948 --> 00:03:01,708 Speaker 1: expectation Penny any appeals is that will also apply to 51 00:03:01,868 --> 00:03:05,548 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. A couple other notes from two L. Robinson's decision. 52 00:03:05,628 --> 00:03:08,868 Speaker 1: She wrote inner decision that the pattern of behavior by 53 00:03:08,908 --> 00:03:12,308 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson was quote egregious, but also specified it was 54 00:03:12,468 --> 00:03:17,628 Speaker 1: quote non violent sexual behavior that Deshaun Watson committed in 55 00:03:17,668 --> 00:03:20,268 Speaker 1: this case. That is why she landed on six games. 56 00:03:20,268 --> 00:03:23,188 Speaker 1: The NFL, of course, had sought a minimum indefinite suspension 57 00:03:23,268 --> 00:03:25,868 Speaker 1: of at least one year. In settlement talks, I'm told 58 00:03:25,908 --> 00:03:28,628 Speaker 1: they were unwilling to go below a twelve game suspension 59 00:03:28,628 --> 00:03:31,988 Speaker 1: for to Shaun Watson on top of a significant fine. 60 00:03:32,028 --> 00:03:34,668 Speaker 1: In this case, with Suell Robinson's decision, there is no 61 00:03:34,708 --> 00:03:37,628 Speaker 1: additional fine for Deshaun Watson. It is just that six 62 00:03:37,668 --> 00:03:41,108 Speaker 1: game suspension, which as Ian noted is a fairly significant 63 00:03:41,148 --> 00:03:43,388 Speaker 1: insignificant amount of money for a player who signed a 64 00:03:43,388 --> 00:03:46,388 Speaker 1: five year, two or thirty million dollar fully guaranteed contract. 65 00:03:46,428 --> 00:03:48,788 Speaker 1: The NFL now has three days to appeal this. If 66 00:03:48,788 --> 00:03:51,308 Speaker 1: the NFL does appeal, the NFLPA would have two days 67 00:03:51,348 --> 00:03:54,308 Speaker 1: to respond to it. That means any appeals process would 68 00:03:54,308 --> 00:03:56,748 Speaker 1: not get going until next week. And if Roger Goodell 69 00:03:56,828 --> 00:03:59,828 Speaker 1: or his designy increased this discipline, I would expect the 70 00:03:59,908 --> 00:04:03,948 Speaker 1: NFLPA to consider all options, including going to federal court. Yes, 71 00:04:03,988 --> 00:04:06,068 Speaker 1: six games for Deshaun Watson at this point would cost 72 00:04:06,108 --> 00:04:08,868 Speaker 1: him about three hundred and fifty thousand dollars right around there. Again, 73 00:04:08,988 --> 00:04:11,788 Speaker 1: three days to appeal for the NFL. So judy, Oh, 74 00:04:11,868 --> 00:04:13,828 Speaker 1: what might be the next step here? From the NFL 75 00:04:13,908 --> 00:04:17,068 Speaker 1: side of things, Well, they have an interesting decision to make. Certainly, 76 00:04:17,148 --> 00:04:21,188 Speaker 1: six games is light by any standard, especially since Jed 77 00:04:21,348 --> 00:04:24,628 Speaker 1: Robinson talked about an egregious pattern of behavior. I know 78 00:04:24,708 --> 00:04:27,668 Speaker 1: she knew that it was nonviolent, it was certainly coercive. 79 00:04:27,708 --> 00:04:31,348 Speaker 1: Though the league wanted an indefinite suspension of at least 80 00:04:31,428 --> 00:04:34,788 Speaker 1: one full year, So six games is light by that measure, 81 00:04:34,908 --> 00:04:37,868 Speaker 1: flight by any measure. I'd be surprised if the NFL 82 00:04:38,108 --> 00:04:41,348 Speaker 1: does not increase the suspension. The NFL has had a 83 00:04:41,548 --> 00:04:46,308 Speaker 1: long difficult history on cases involving player behavior with women. 84 00:04:46,428 --> 00:04:49,868 Speaker 1: The Ray Rice case shadows the NFL to this day. 85 00:04:49,908 --> 00:04:51,988 Speaker 1: They have done a lot of work to try to 86 00:04:52,028 --> 00:04:55,388 Speaker 1: improve on that topic, and I feel like if they 87 00:04:55,508 --> 00:04:59,228 Speaker 1: don't increase the suspension here, where there were so many accusers, 88 00:04:59,388 --> 00:05:03,228 Speaker 1: so many cases, a disturbing pattern of behavior, I feel 89 00:05:03,268 --> 00:05:05,548 Speaker 1: like the NFL would probably you view that as a 90 00:05:05,588 --> 00:05:08,188 Speaker 1: whole lot of work that goes to waste. This is 91 00:05:08,228 --> 00:05:10,988 Speaker 1: a very tricky decision for the NFL because it is 92 00:05:11,028 --> 00:05:13,828 Speaker 1: the first case under this new policy where you have 93 00:05:13,908 --> 00:05:17,628 Speaker 1: an independent arbitrator making the first determination if there was 94 00:05:17,628 --> 00:05:20,748 Speaker 1: a violation of the Personal Conduct policy. But again, because 95 00:05:20,788 --> 00:05:24,068 Speaker 1: this is so light, so much lighter than the league 96 00:05:24,108 --> 00:05:26,468 Speaker 1: looked for, I would be surprised if the league does 97 00:05:26,508 --> 00:05:31,108 Speaker 1: not appeal it and increase the suspension. Judy, thank you. Yes, 98 00:05:31,188 --> 00:05:33,908 Speaker 1: it certainly feels like a standard is being set here, 99 00:05:34,108 --> 00:05:35,868 Speaker 1: with this being the first time the NFL and the 100 00:05:35,948 --> 00:05:38,388 Speaker 1: NFLPA have had to go through this process. Ian, you 101 00:05:38,388 --> 00:05:40,308 Speaker 1: have something that you would like to add, Yeah, I do. 102 00:05:40,508 --> 00:05:42,988 Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to one thing that Judy said. 103 00:05:43,028 --> 00:05:45,428 Speaker 1: You know, we have been talking about the twenty plus 104 00:05:45,548 --> 00:05:50,308 Speaker 1: lawsuits against Deshaun Watson for you know, a year now essentially, 105 00:05:50,348 --> 00:05:53,588 Speaker 1: and you know, so many lawsuits accusing him of sexual 106 00:05:53,628 --> 00:05:57,708 Speaker 1: misconduct and other similar allegations. What the NFL brought to 107 00:05:57,828 --> 00:06:01,188 Speaker 1: Sue Robinson, though, was five cases. You know, they interviewed 108 00:06:01,308 --> 00:06:03,948 Speaker 1: more than ten. I believe fifteen or so was the 109 00:06:04,028 --> 00:06:07,868 Speaker 1: number of accusers that the NFL was able to interview. 110 00:06:07,868 --> 00:06:11,428 Speaker 1: But they brought five cases to Judge Sue L. Robinson, 111 00:06:11,468 --> 00:06:14,708 Speaker 1: as she noted in her ruling, all non violent cases. 112 00:06:14,748 --> 00:06:17,708 Speaker 1: And that is an interesting distinction because public we've talked 113 00:06:17,708 --> 00:06:21,268 Speaker 1: about twenty but she based her ruling on either four 114 00:06:21,508 --> 00:06:24,468 Speaker 1: or five, So that might sort of explain where the 115 00:06:24,548 --> 00:06:26,868 Speaker 1: number six comes from. But you're right, Judy, we await 116 00:06:26,988 --> 00:06:29,468 Speaker 1: the NFL's word on are they going to appeal in 117 00:06:29,508 --> 00:06:31,868 Speaker 1: the fact that it is the first time we have 118 00:06:31,988 --> 00:06:36,148 Speaker 1: seen this disciplinary process which the NFL agreed upon with 119 00:06:36,308 --> 00:06:39,508 Speaker 1: the NFLPA. That certainly does you know, precedent is always 120 00:06:39,548 --> 00:06:42,428 Speaker 1: so important this situation. We'll see what precedent is set 121 00:06:42,428 --> 00:06:45,148 Speaker 1: based on whether or not they accept this ruling of 122 00:06:45,148 --> 00:06:48,348 Speaker 1: six games suspension. Another note from the Collective Bargaining Agreement 123 00:06:48,348 --> 00:06:51,028 Speaker 1: and the way that Article forty six was rewritten in 124 00:06:51,068 --> 00:06:53,988 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty CBA, this is not going to be 125 00:06:54,188 --> 00:06:57,828 Speaker 1: a completely new trial so to speak of Deshaun Watson 126 00:06:57,868 --> 00:07:00,108 Speaker 1: if the NFL does appeal it before Roger Goodell or 127 00:07:00,148 --> 00:07:03,548 Speaker 1: his designate. Sue L. Robinson's findings under the CBA are 128 00:07:03,668 --> 00:07:06,348 Speaker 1: binding in terms of the facts. That's why she produced 129 00:07:06,388 --> 00:07:08,828 Speaker 1: the fifteen page document that she sent to the parties 130 00:07:08,828 --> 00:07:11,108 Speaker 1: this morning informing them of the six game suspension. Four 131 00:07:11,148 --> 00:07:13,428 Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson, the facts now are what they are. 132 00:07:13,548 --> 00:07:15,148 Speaker 1: What it would be if the NFL appeals is in 133 00:07:15,268 --> 00:07:18,628 Speaker 1: essence a process appeal. The NFL would argue that, based 134 00:07:18,708 --> 00:07:21,428 Speaker 1: upon the factual findings by Sue L. Robinson from the 135 00:07:21,508 --> 00:07:24,188 Speaker 1: three day hearing back in early July, that they the 136 00:07:24,348 --> 00:07:27,708 Speaker 1: previous precedent of six games should not apply. In essence, 137 00:07:27,708 --> 00:07:29,428 Speaker 1: they should be able to suspend to Shaun Watson for 138 00:07:29,468 --> 00:07:32,868 Speaker 1: a substantial more amount of time based upon the simple 139 00:07:32,988 --> 00:07:36,788 Speaker 1: volume of allegations here. The NFL PA would strongly disagree 140 00:07:36,868 --> 00:07:39,108 Speaker 1: with that. So by putting out that statement last night, 141 00:07:39,228 --> 00:07:41,908 Speaker 1: that was the warning shot to the NFL. Either you 142 00:07:41,988 --> 00:07:44,788 Speaker 1: don't appeal this except Suel Robinson's findings, or if you 143 00:07:44,868 --> 00:07:47,708 Speaker 1: do appeal it and eventually you increase the suspension, that 144 00:07:47,868 --> 00:07:49,708 Speaker 1: we are going to sue you. We're going to take 145 00:07:49,708 --> 00:07:51,548 Speaker 1: you to federal court. We are going to create a 146 00:07:51,588 --> 00:07:54,388 Speaker 1: shadow over the NFL season because that would not be 147 00:07:54,508 --> 00:07:57,428 Speaker 1: a quick process here. Even the appeals process would probably 148 00:07:57,428 --> 00:07:59,788 Speaker 1: take multiple weeks to complete. Then you would head into 149 00:07:59,788 --> 00:08:03,228 Speaker 1: federal courts. We've lived through this before, Ezekiel Elliott being 150 00:08:03,308 --> 00:08:06,708 Speaker 1: one primary case. Does the NFL want to open that up? 151 00:08:06,748 --> 00:08:09,068 Speaker 1: As Judy said, it's a very difficult decision in the 152 00:08:09,188 --> 00:08:12,308 Speaker 1: first case. Under the twenty twenty CBA, a completely new 153 00:08:12,348 --> 00:08:14,588 Speaker 1: process to see exactly how the NFL is going to 154 00:08:14,588 --> 00:08:16,988 Speaker 1: decide how to proceed. One thing I would add here 155 00:08:17,148 --> 00:08:20,668 Speaker 1: is that the NFL has generally prevailed in court at 156 00:08:20,708 --> 00:08:23,548 Speaker 1: the appeals court level. It typically loses at the district 157 00:08:23,588 --> 00:08:26,268 Speaker 1: court level, and then the appeals court in several cases 158 00:08:26,308 --> 00:08:29,948 Speaker 1: has reaffirmed the power of the commissioner to impose discipline 159 00:08:29,948 --> 00:08:33,068 Speaker 1: in personal conduct cases. The question, as Tom pointed out, 160 00:08:33,148 --> 00:08:36,068 Speaker 1: is does the NFL want this dragging out? And certainly 161 00:08:36,068 --> 00:08:38,548 Speaker 1: it would create a shadow over the season, that's the 162 00:08:38,588 --> 00:08:41,508 Speaker 1: calculation they have to make if they want to increase 163 00:08:41,508 --> 00:08:43,828 Speaker 1: the penalty. But I don't think the NFL is afraid 164 00:08:43,868 --> 00:08:46,828 Speaker 1: of the courts, because frankly, they've had success when they've 165 00:08:46,828 --> 00:08:48,708 Speaker 1: been in court in the past. I don't think they 166 00:08:48,708 --> 00:08:50,988 Speaker 1: worry about that. As a president, I think much more 167 00:08:51,028 --> 00:08:53,188 Speaker 1: it's the question of the fact that this would be 168 00:08:53,228 --> 00:08:56,588 Speaker 1: a topic of conversation for many, many more weeks if 169 00:08:56,628 --> 00:08:59,348 Speaker 1: it goes into court. Absolutely, and let's all remember that 170 00:08:59,428 --> 00:09:02,348 Speaker 1: it was twelve hours ago the NFLPA put that statement 171 00:09:02,388 --> 00:09:05,308 Speaker 1: out that was imploring the NFL to do the same, 172 00:09:05,348 --> 00:09:07,988 Speaker 1: to accept this judgment as it stood, and this was 173 00:09:08,028 --> 00:09:11,148 Speaker 1: before the six games were even announced. So the NFLPA 174 00:09:11,268 --> 00:09:13,068 Speaker 1: asking that of the NFL, and now we all sit 175 00:09:13,108 --> 00:09:15,188 Speaker 1: and wait and see if the NFL will do that, 176 00:09:15,508 --> 00:09:18,588 Speaker 1: not appeal or appeal. There is a process set fourth year, 177 00:09:18,628 --> 00:09:21,388 Speaker 1: but Mike, We've been living in this now for us 178 00:09:21,388 --> 00:09:24,348 Speaker 1: since January of twenty twenty one. A lot has unfolded 179 00:09:24,348 --> 00:09:27,188 Speaker 1: and there's a lot to unpack. Yes, and our crew 180 00:09:27,228 --> 00:09:30,628 Speaker 1: coupled together a timeline of when this started and how 181 00:09:30,668 --> 00:09:33,348 Speaker 1: long it's been. I mean, coincidentally, I think I was 182 00:09:33,428 --> 00:09:36,868 Speaker 1: here in studio the day that Watson or the day 183 00:09:36,908 --> 00:09:39,388 Speaker 1: after Watson requested a trade, and he did not play 184 00:09:39,708 --> 00:09:43,028 Speaker 1: for all of the previous season with the Houston Texans, 185 00:09:43,028 --> 00:09:45,428 Speaker 1: which was in large part his decision because he wanted 186 00:09:45,428 --> 00:09:48,068 Speaker 1: a trade, he wanted out. So any notion that, oh, 187 00:09:48,108 --> 00:09:50,468 Speaker 1: he's already kind of sort of served a suspension is 188 00:09:50,668 --> 00:09:53,668 Speaker 1: not just not accurate as we continue to go this 189 00:09:53,708 --> 00:09:55,908 Speaker 1: and you heard our Judy Batista say that she'd be 190 00:09:55,948 --> 00:10:00,148 Speaker 1: surprised if the NFL does not appeal this and say, 191 00:10:00,468 --> 00:10:03,788 Speaker 1: you know, hey, look, we wanted a much more significant 192 00:10:03,908 --> 00:10:06,268 Speaker 1: suspend here. We did not get it. We have the 193 00:10:06,348 --> 00:10:09,348 Speaker 1: right under the Collective Bargaining Agreement, and the NFLPA really 194 00:10:09,388 --> 00:10:11,868 Speaker 1: making it clear that they're not going to take that 195 00:10:12,028 --> 00:10:14,428 Speaker 1: one sitting down, and that we could have a prolonged 196 00:10:14,508 --> 00:10:17,468 Speaker 1: legal fight potentially on our hands here. As Tom Pellicero 197 00:10:17,628 --> 00:10:19,708 Speaker 1: noted and You can kind of see where this is going, right, 198 00:10:19,708 --> 00:10:21,628 Speaker 1: I mean, you can kind of see the NFLPA saying, 199 00:10:21,628 --> 00:10:25,228 Speaker 1: we negotiated this, we wanted independent arbitration. You knew it 200 00:10:25,228 --> 00:10:26,908 Speaker 1: was important to us, You knew it was important enough 201 00:10:26,948 --> 00:10:28,708 Speaker 1: to us that you gave it to us. As far 202 00:10:28,748 --> 00:10:32,068 Speaker 1: as Sue Robinson being the first line of defense here 203 00:10:32,548 --> 00:10:35,068 Speaker 1: and then probably saying well, if you fully intended all 204 00:10:35,108 --> 00:10:37,868 Speaker 1: along to not even listen to what she has to 205 00:10:37,908 --> 00:10:40,228 Speaker 1: say and impose your own suspension anyway, then you really 206 00:10:40,228 --> 00:10:43,188 Speaker 1: didn't negotiate that collective bargaining agreement in good faith, right. 207 00:10:43,188 --> 00:10:45,788 Speaker 1: I mean there'll be more legal technical aspects to it, 208 00:10:45,788 --> 00:10:48,508 Speaker 1: but that's basically where this would potentially go. And then 209 00:10:48,548 --> 00:10:51,188 Speaker 1: the NFL say, what, you signed the document. It was 210 00:10:51,228 --> 00:10:53,988 Speaker 1: in there in the writing, It was part of the discussions, right, 211 00:10:54,068 --> 00:10:55,428 Speaker 1: I mean, kind of going back to what we talked 212 00:10:55,428 --> 00:10:58,628 Speaker 1: about with Kyler Murray last week. You know what you signed, 213 00:10:58,668 --> 00:11:00,708 Speaker 1: you know you agreed to you signed that contract. So 214 00:11:00,828 --> 00:11:02,268 Speaker 1: you know, when we sit here and we say, well, 215 00:11:02,268 --> 00:11:07,628 Speaker 1: he's gonna miss these games, where are the Carolina Jets, Steelers, Falcons, Chargers? 216 00:11:07,788 --> 00:11:10,228 Speaker 1: Knowing that we don't know there are still some steps 217 00:11:10,228 --> 00:11:12,508 Speaker 1: to go here, and the NFL again has the right 218 00:11:12,548 --> 00:11:15,828 Speaker 1: to appeal this within the next three days. So hanging there, 219 00:11:16,228 --> 00:11:18,588 Speaker 1: Mike's got it. Since January twenty twenty one, this has 220 00:11:18,588 --> 00:11:20,988 Speaker 1: been unfolding, and we look at the schedule for the 221 00:11:21,028 --> 00:11:23,868 Speaker 1: Browns this season in twenty twenty two. But to keep 222 00:11:23,868 --> 00:11:26,388 Speaker 1: in mind, there were upwards of twenty four civil lawsuits 223 00:11:26,388 --> 00:11:29,108 Speaker 1: that we're potentially going to be taken against Deshaun Watson. 224 00:11:29,188 --> 00:11:32,948 Speaker 1: We're talking about women that this happened to. Potentially they 225 00:11:32,988 --> 00:11:36,668 Speaker 1: are alleged victims. But obviously, if this judge has determined 226 00:11:36,668 --> 00:11:39,468 Speaker 1: it to be egregious non violent sexual behavior, there were 227 00:11:39,468 --> 00:11:41,708 Speaker 1: people involved in this that we're clearly affected. And we're 228 00:11:41,708 --> 00:11:43,828 Speaker 1: talking about football and this. We had the schedule up there, 229 00:11:43,868 --> 00:11:45,668 Speaker 1: but let's just keep in mind that there are women 230 00:11:45,748 --> 00:11:49,268 Speaker 1: watching this that had interactions with Deshaun Watson. That this 231 00:11:49,348 --> 00:11:50,948 Speaker 1: is the whole reason why we're sitting here and talking 232 00:11:50,988 --> 00:11:52,828 Speaker 1: about the six game suspension. So we're going to have 233 00:11:52,868 --> 00:11:54,948 Speaker 1: more on this here on Good Morning Football coming up. 234 00:11:54,988 --> 00:12:06,148 Speaker 1: Stay tuned if you're just joining us here on Good 235 00:12:06,148 --> 00:12:09,108 Speaker 1: Morning Football. It's been decided six games suspension for a 236 00:12:09,148 --> 00:12:12,588 Speaker 1: quarterback to Shaun Watson. This decided by a former judge, 237 00:12:12,588 --> 00:12:14,988 Speaker 1: Sue L. Robinson, who is an independent arbiter who was 238 00:12:15,028 --> 00:12:19,228 Speaker 1: agreed upon handpicked by the NFLPA and the NFL. She 239 00:12:19,468 --> 00:12:21,908 Speaker 1: is the one that brings down the six games suspension, 240 00:12:21,948 --> 00:12:25,948 Speaker 1: recommends it. As our insiders have been continuously reminding us, 241 00:12:25,948 --> 00:12:28,668 Speaker 1: it is a recommendation. The NFL has three days to 242 00:12:28,788 --> 00:12:31,748 Speaker 1: appeal this process again. They recommended the NFL did a 243 00:12:31,788 --> 00:12:34,468 Speaker 1: full sea an indefinite suspension up to a full season 244 00:12:34,588 --> 00:12:37,588 Speaker 1: and beyond, and she came back with her fact finding 245 00:12:37,628 --> 00:12:39,988 Speaker 1: that took over a month. The hearing started in late June. 246 00:12:40,188 --> 00:12:43,108 Speaker 1: Came back with the six games and this conversation will continue. 247 00:12:43,148 --> 00:12:45,348 Speaker 1: But as of right now, we sit at six game suspension. 248 00:12:45,468 --> 00:12:48,028 Speaker 1: Four quarterback for the Browns, Deshaun Watson. All right, we're 249 00:12:48,028 --> 00:12:49,788 Speaker 1: gonna stay here in New York, which is where we are. 250 00:12:49,828 --> 00:12:52,108 Speaker 1: We're gonna head to Giants camp Whererett Louis and Brian 251 00:12:52,148 --> 00:12:55,788 Speaker 1: Ballinger are sitting. They're hanging out. They've been there since sunrise. 252 00:12:55,828 --> 00:12:58,148 Speaker 1: I passed him on my way into the studio. I wave, 253 00:12:58,268 --> 00:13:00,668 Speaker 1: they wave back. It was a whole great thing. Guys. 254 00:13:00,708 --> 00:13:03,188 Speaker 1: What can the Giants do during training camp that will 255 00:13:03,268 --> 00:13:06,228 Speaker 1: benefit Daniel Jones, it's their quarterback the most during this season. 256 00:13:06,268 --> 00:13:08,708 Speaker 1: It's a good question, Jamie, because I think that's that's 257 00:13:08,708 --> 00:13:11,068 Speaker 1: obviously one of the big points here at Giants camp 258 00:13:11,108 --> 00:13:14,108 Speaker 1: with the team obviously not an exercise in the fifth 259 00:13:14,148 --> 00:13:16,708 Speaker 1: year option on Daniel Jones's rookie contract, which means this 260 00:13:16,748 --> 00:13:18,348 Speaker 1: is the last year he had to be under contracts. 261 00:13:18,348 --> 00:13:20,268 Speaker 1: So obviously a big year. And I think they've already 262 00:13:20,268 --> 00:13:22,988 Speaker 1: done some things right, I mean, drafted Wandale Robinson, trying 263 00:13:22,988 --> 00:13:25,748 Speaker 1: to get that offensive line continued to be solidified there, 264 00:13:25,748 --> 00:13:28,628 Speaker 1: Evan Neil in the first people in a lot of peace. 265 00:13:28,828 --> 00:13:30,468 Speaker 1: So how does it come together? Though? Well, I just 266 00:13:30,548 --> 00:13:32,828 Speaker 1: I was out of here practice on Thursday and they 267 00:13:32,868 --> 00:13:36,228 Speaker 1: were just you know, in helmets, the no pads, and 268 00:13:36,628 --> 00:13:40,748 Speaker 1: what I saw from Brian Dable was organization. I thought 269 00:13:40,788 --> 00:13:43,308 Speaker 1: there was a real plan and practice low red zone, 270 00:13:43,388 --> 00:13:46,108 Speaker 1: third and two to five, but tempo. They ran a 271 00:13:46,108 --> 00:13:48,628 Speaker 1: lot of players, so you know, Daniel Jones got a 272 00:13:48,668 --> 00:13:51,628 Speaker 1: lot of snaps today though, first day in pads, we 273 00:13:51,668 --> 00:13:53,508 Speaker 1: should hear some pop and going on out there, and 274 00:13:53,628 --> 00:13:56,108 Speaker 1: really you can make a much better evaluation as they 275 00:13:56,188 --> 00:13:59,228 Speaker 1: kind of start really to evaluate Daniel Jones. You know, 276 00:13:59,268 --> 00:14:01,668 Speaker 1: does the rush get there, how does he handle the pocket, 277 00:14:02,028 --> 00:14:03,988 Speaker 1: all those kind of things. But the big thing I 278 00:14:04,028 --> 00:14:07,588 Speaker 1: think is he's got his starters on the field, and 279 00:14:07,988 --> 00:14:10,828 Speaker 1: so much of last year, even with Kenny Gailladay and 280 00:14:10,908 --> 00:14:13,988 Speaker 1: Cardarius Tony Sterling Shepherd day were not on the field day, 281 00:14:14,028 --> 00:14:16,668 Speaker 1: were not practicing. But so far they have practice every 282 00:14:16,748 --> 00:14:19,068 Speaker 1: day this year since training camp has started, and that's 283 00:14:19,108 --> 00:14:22,028 Speaker 1: a big deal to get those reps, live reps with 284 00:14:22,148 --> 00:14:25,828 Speaker 1: the starting group sure, and obviously Sterling Shepherds still working 285 00:14:25,828 --> 00:14:28,068 Speaker 1: his way back from that Achilles injury and it's kind 286 00:14:28,068 --> 00:14:30,428 Speaker 1: of one of the longest tenure guys here now an 287 00:14:30,428 --> 00:14:32,868 Speaker 1: East Rutherford, New Jersey for this Giants team, especially that 288 00:14:32,868 --> 00:14:35,708 Speaker 1: wide receiver spot. But there's some young talent there and 289 00:14:35,788 --> 00:14:37,428 Speaker 1: some talent that came over, as you mentioned with Kenny 290 00:14:37,428 --> 00:14:40,228 Speaker 1: Galladay that we didn't necessarily see really manifest itself in 291 00:14:40,268 --> 00:14:42,108 Speaker 1: the way the Giants had hoped a year ago. So 292 00:14:42,148 --> 00:14:44,068 Speaker 1: maybe we get that this year, but still a lot 293 00:14:44,148 --> 00:14:46,508 Speaker 1: left to proof here. For Daniel Jones, guys, Vald you've 294 00:14:46,548 --> 00:14:49,188 Speaker 1: been down at the Giants training camp a few times 295 00:14:49,188 --> 00:14:52,588 Speaker 1: this summer. You mentioned Brian Dable and what do practices 296 00:14:52,588 --> 00:14:54,508 Speaker 1: are like? To Temple on the different things that he 297 00:14:54,588 --> 00:14:57,028 Speaker 1: is doing. What do you think that can materialize for 298 00:14:57,148 --> 00:14:59,428 Speaker 1: the New York Giants this season? Well, I think the 299 00:14:59,468 --> 00:15:01,788 Speaker 1: big thing, Jason is they just talking to Kenny Gilladay 300 00:15:01,828 --> 00:15:03,468 Speaker 1: the other day when I was here. His number one 301 00:15:03,508 --> 00:15:06,548 Speaker 1: goal isn't of catches, touchdowns, any of that. It's to 302 00:15:06,628 --> 00:15:08,988 Speaker 1: stay healthy and to practice every day. He just missed 303 00:15:08,988 --> 00:15:11,628 Speaker 1: too much practice time. And so last year Jason, Cardarius 304 00:15:11,628 --> 00:15:13,828 Speaker 1: Tony and Kenny Guilladay they never found the end zone 305 00:15:13,868 --> 00:15:16,428 Speaker 1: one time. So for Brian Dable right now, it's you know, 306 00:15:16,668 --> 00:15:19,988 Speaker 1: we're early in camp, right Jason, it's installation today. The 307 00:15:20,068 --> 00:15:22,468 Speaker 1: emphasis is going to be on the run game. It's 308 00:15:22,468 --> 00:15:24,468 Speaker 1: gonna be on base defense. So you're gonna see a 309 00:15:24,508 --> 00:15:27,228 Speaker 1: lot of you know, just the offensive line coming off 310 00:15:27,228 --> 00:15:30,148 Speaker 1: the ball going up against that man behind Brian Dable 311 00:15:30,228 --> 00:15:34,308 Speaker 1: number ninety seven, Dexter Lawrence. Right there, there's a cavon 312 00:15:34,388 --> 00:15:36,828 Speaker 1: Thibodeau number five. We're gonna see those guys kind of 313 00:15:36,828 --> 00:15:39,348 Speaker 1: get at it in the trenches today, Jason. But I 314 00:15:39,388 --> 00:15:41,508 Speaker 1: think what Brian has really got is he's got a 315 00:15:41,548 --> 00:15:44,948 Speaker 1: real good eye for what heave's looking for. Right now, 316 00:15:44,988 --> 00:15:47,708 Speaker 1: he knows the way he wants his offense to look 317 00:15:47,708 --> 00:15:50,348 Speaker 1: and how crisp he wants it. They did that in Buffalo. 318 00:15:50,428 --> 00:15:53,748 Speaker 1: He saw a slow building Buffalo, and I think that's 319 00:15:53,948 --> 00:15:56,748 Speaker 1: really I think they're gonna be patient here as they 320 00:15:56,788 --> 00:15:59,988 Speaker 1: build this. Like Evan Neil and Cavon Tibodau. They're twenty 321 00:16:00,028 --> 00:16:02,068 Speaker 1: one years old, right, you know they're they're just they're 322 00:16:02,268 --> 00:16:05,348 Speaker 1: kids growing up here very quickly. Good news is, guys, 323 00:16:05,388 --> 00:16:07,948 Speaker 1: the tone has already been set today this Monday morning 324 00:16:08,028 --> 00:16:10,948 Speaker 1: here from Giants Gamp. They've already had Ozzy Osbourne blasting 325 00:16:10,988 --> 00:16:14,948 Speaker 1: over the speakers here. We're going full pads. Baldy's ready, 326 00:16:15,188 --> 00:16:17,508 Speaker 1: let's get this thing fired up here. Expect some young 327 00:16:17,588 --> 00:16:21,468 Speaker 1: joker too. That's Caadarius Tony. They played okay practice and 328 00:16:21,548 --> 00:16:24,148 Speaker 1: I know, okay, I know ret that when it comes on, 329 00:16:24,668 --> 00:16:28,068 Speaker 1: you're gonna know exactly who the artist is, just like 330 00:16:28,108 --> 00:16:33,668 Speaker 1: I did. I hope tells me what who that is? Us, Tony. 331 00:16:33,748 --> 00:16:35,988 Speaker 1: But listen, and the other day, Baldi, you talked about 332 00:16:36,028 --> 00:16:38,548 Speaker 1: Kenny Gallday's goals. We tried to get him out out 333 00:16:38,548 --> 00:16:40,348 Speaker 1: of him and he said, you know, stay healthy, and 334 00:16:40,388 --> 00:16:42,508 Speaker 1: then he said the rest I'm gonna keep to myself. 335 00:16:42,548 --> 00:16:44,748 Speaker 1: So let's see, Baldi, you get another crack at it today. 336 00:16:44,828 --> 00:16:46,188 Speaker 1: Let's see if you can get the whole list day. 337 00:16:46,308 --> 00:16:48,908 Speaker 1: We'll try maybe retro what you need, a better reporter, 338 00:16:49,428 --> 00:16:52,348 Speaker 1: a better person to aspect questions on the scene. We 339 00:16:52,388 --> 00:16:54,708 Speaker 1: will press him, Mike, we will press him on your 340 00:16:54,748 --> 00:16:59,068 Speaker 1: behalf and we'll get right back to you. All right, Mike, nice, beautiful, 341 00:16:59,228 --> 00:17:01,148 Speaker 1: Thank you boys. Maybe I'll stop buy on my way. 342 00:17:03,428 --> 00:17:05,388 Speaker 1: I would love to. I would love to just draw 343 00:17:05,468 --> 00:17:06,708 Speaker 1: me off on the way there. I'll just hang out 344 00:17:06,828 --> 00:17:09,428 Speaker 1: do the show from there, all right. So encouragement maybe 345 00:17:09,428 --> 00:17:12,388 Speaker 1: the word that we're seeing from Giants training camp across 346 00:17:12,428 --> 00:17:14,108 Speaker 1: the board though with some of those young guys. What 347 00:17:14,228 --> 00:17:17,068 Speaker 1: have you seen mostly from Giants training camp that encourages you, 348 00:17:17,068 --> 00:17:19,748 Speaker 1: guys as you are looking ahead of this season Before you, guys, 349 00:17:20,148 --> 00:17:22,588 Speaker 1: I'm impressed by Mike with the did you see the 350 00:17:22,628 --> 00:17:27,228 Speaker 1: pronunciation young joker? Yeah? The next sure, I'm impressed that 351 00:17:26,908 --> 00:17:29,828 Speaker 1: line human, But yeah, I think it's jay okay, he 352 00:17:29,988 --> 00:17:33,268 Speaker 1: young Joka. Whatever you say we're going with, Yeah, that's 353 00:17:33,268 --> 00:17:35,148 Speaker 1: what it is. Officially. Rhett was trying to get us 354 00:17:35,148 --> 00:17:36,948 Speaker 1: there with Azzie that I'm good on and then you 355 00:17:36,948 --> 00:17:40,148 Speaker 1: went to Young Joker. The reason that I didn't really 356 00:17:40,188 --> 00:17:42,188 Speaker 1: know that it was Young Joker right at the time 357 00:17:42,268 --> 00:17:45,108 Speaker 1: I read it. Later I had no idea because it 358 00:17:45,188 --> 00:17:47,388 Speaker 1: was good, like it fit in with everything else. I 359 00:17:47,468 --> 00:17:50,028 Speaker 1: was like, it didn't stand out. Was Mike's that was 360 00:17:50,068 --> 00:17:55,588 Speaker 1: good the Young Joker, he has obligations time. The Brian 361 00:17:55,668 --> 00:17:57,268 Speaker 1: Dave ball thing seems to be going really well. People 362 00:17:57,268 --> 00:17:59,268 Speaker 1: seem really really like him. It's going over. Sometimes these 363 00:17:59,308 --> 00:18:01,508 Speaker 1: coaches show up and as whoa, and I don't know 364 00:18:01,588 --> 00:18:03,188 Speaker 1: they're gonna put this back in the but no, this 365 00:18:03,228 --> 00:18:05,708 Speaker 1: seems like it's going really well. I hate for some reason, 366 00:18:05,788 --> 00:18:10,508 Speaker 1: I've turned into some sort of criticism expert of Kenny Golladay. 367 00:18:10,548 --> 00:18:12,108 Speaker 1: And I never knew I was gonna be that way. 368 00:18:12,148 --> 00:18:14,308 Speaker 1: But I just remember when he was the guy, like 369 00:18:14,348 --> 00:18:16,468 Speaker 1: he was the name and free agency and everyone kept 370 00:18:16,468 --> 00:18:18,268 Speaker 1: passing on him and passing on him, and finally, like, 371 00:18:18,268 --> 00:18:20,188 Speaker 1: I guess the Giants are gonna sign him this big contract. 372 00:18:20,228 --> 00:18:22,268 Speaker 1: Just last year was so disappointing. He didn't score a 373 00:18:22,308 --> 00:18:24,868 Speaker 1: touchdown literally none, and so it's like, if the Giants 374 00:18:24,868 --> 00:18:27,068 Speaker 1: are gonna be a thing, everyone's like, se Quwan's gotta 375 00:18:27,068 --> 00:18:28,908 Speaker 1: go up, I get it. Can we get a galla day? 376 00:18:29,068 --> 00:18:31,428 Speaker 1: Like cameo? He said, you said he didn't want to 377 00:18:31,428 --> 00:18:32,948 Speaker 1: reveal the rest of his goals. Yeah, I would have 378 00:18:32,948 --> 00:18:34,788 Speaker 1: to think scoring six points with the catch would be 379 00:18:34,788 --> 00:18:37,868 Speaker 1: one of them. Yeah, right, probably that's allowed. So Kenny, like, 380 00:18:38,068 --> 00:18:40,148 Speaker 1: I've been way over the line in my criticism of 381 00:18:40,228 --> 00:18:41,948 Speaker 1: you today, but haven't you kind of earned it? Let's 382 00:18:41,948 --> 00:18:44,508 Speaker 1: go here. You got a big check. Yeah, that's the 383 00:18:44,588 --> 00:18:46,108 Speaker 1: energy is good out there. I was out there, like 384 00:18:46,148 --> 00:18:48,188 Speaker 1: I said, with Baldi the other day, and you could 385 00:18:48,228 --> 00:18:50,348 Speaker 1: tell it's a little and I don't I still think 386 00:18:50,428 --> 00:18:52,988 Speaker 1: somewhere inside Joe Judge there's a good head coach in 387 00:18:52,988 --> 00:18:55,028 Speaker 1: this league. I truly do believe. I feel like he 388 00:18:55,108 --> 00:18:57,428 Speaker 1: was not paired well with the general manager, and the 389 00:18:57,428 --> 00:18:59,188 Speaker 1: two of them didn't get along and didn't see eye. 390 00:18:59,188 --> 00:19:00,748 Speaker 1: I thought there was a lot of stuff going on 391 00:19:00,828 --> 00:19:02,908 Speaker 1: there that just didn't in factor it. So I don't 392 00:19:02,908 --> 00:19:06,228 Speaker 1: want this to be a Oh but now when this 393 00:19:06,268 --> 00:19:08,388 Speaker 1: regime comes in and the general manager and the head 394 00:19:08,388 --> 00:19:10,428 Speaker 1: coach are aligned and they're able to do things the 395 00:19:10,948 --> 00:19:12,908 Speaker 1: way that they want to do it from start to finish, 396 00:19:12,948 --> 00:19:15,548 Speaker 1: not only from a personnel standpoint, but from a culture standpoint, 397 00:19:15,628 --> 00:19:17,388 Speaker 1: the vibes are pretty good at Giants game. If I'm 398 00:19:17,388 --> 00:19:19,868 Speaker 1: a Giants fan, I feel pretty good. And I do 399 00:19:19,948 --> 00:19:23,828 Speaker 1: know that this ownership wants this regime to have that long, 400 00:19:23,908 --> 00:19:26,428 Speaker 1: extended run together, right like kind of San Francisco did. 401 00:19:26,428 --> 00:19:28,508 Speaker 1: They had those six year deals that they with Kyle 402 00:19:28,508 --> 00:19:30,348 Speaker 1: Shanahan and John Lynch saying, Hey, I know we've had 403 00:19:30,388 --> 00:19:32,308 Speaker 1: a lot of turnover lately. This is going to be 404 00:19:32,348 --> 00:19:34,068 Speaker 1: a long runway. That's kind of the way it feels 405 00:19:34,108 --> 00:19:35,988 Speaker 1: right now. I'm hoping the flights of fancy that I've 406 00:19:35,988 --> 00:19:38,748 Speaker 1: had about the Giants offense can ring true a little 407 00:19:38,788 --> 00:19:41,228 Speaker 1: bit because Kadarius Tony, from what I remember seeing of 408 00:19:41,308 --> 00:19:44,548 Speaker 1: him when he played at Florida, was an unbelievable talent 409 00:19:44,828 --> 00:19:48,628 Speaker 1: from a quarterback in Kyle Trask that didn't quite have it. Yeah, 410 00:19:48,628 --> 00:19:51,188 Speaker 1: he had Kyle Pitts and he had Kadarius Tonia Florida, 411 00:19:51,188 --> 00:19:52,868 Speaker 1: and look at what the Gators were able to accomplish 412 00:19:52,868 --> 00:19:54,788 Speaker 1: when Kadarius Tony was at Florida. Now he comes to 413 00:19:54,788 --> 00:19:57,228 Speaker 1: the Giants and I almost feel like Daniel Jones Kadarius Tony, 414 00:19:57,308 --> 00:19:59,708 Speaker 1: they need to rely on each other to improve to 415 00:19:59,748 --> 00:20:02,508 Speaker 1: step up and maybe they can become On whiteboard Wednesday, 416 00:20:02,708 --> 00:20:05,668 Speaker 1: a favorite quarterback wider seafroa duo that we didn't know 417 00:20:05,708 --> 00:20:08,788 Speaker 1: we needed this season because they could be there together 418 00:20:08,868 --> 00:20:10,868 Speaker 1: and they need each other to step up. I gotta 419 00:20:10,908 --> 00:20:13,788 Speaker 1: point this out. I spoke, Mike spoke, and halfway through 420 00:20:13,868 --> 00:20:15,908 Speaker 1: Jamie speaking. Is the first time Daniel Jones name was 421 00:20:15,948 --> 00:20:17,788 Speaker 1: mentioned in our talk about giants. I do think that's 422 00:20:17,828 --> 00:20:19,468 Speaker 1: a good thing. I think it's because mostly when he 423 00:20:19,468 --> 00:20:21,948 Speaker 1: comes up, it's not constructive positive things. I don't have 424 00:20:21,988 --> 00:20:25,508 Speaker 1: anything you can say, Jamie. You did, Jason. You took 425 00:20:25,548 --> 00:20:27,988 Speaker 1: the wards right out of the next thing I was 426 00:20:27,988 --> 00:20:30,348 Speaker 1: gonna say is all these things are great. We're talking 427 00:20:30,348 --> 00:20:33,788 Speaker 1: about Brian David. He's bringing the energy to Temple. How's 428 00:20:33,868 --> 00:20:37,108 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones doing? I don't know. We want Kenny Galladay 429 00:20:37,108 --> 00:20:41,028 Speaker 1: to score a touchdown. Someone's got We talked about ka 430 00:20:41,108 --> 00:20:44,028 Speaker 1: Darius Tony, the unbelievable athlete he is. He's not a 431 00:20:44,108 --> 00:20:46,228 Speaker 1: running back. You can't hand it off to him. Somebody's 432 00:20:46,268 --> 00:20:47,908 Speaker 1: got to throw him the ball. So we want to 433 00:20:47,948 --> 00:20:50,668 Speaker 1: know how Daniel Jones is looking at camp. How's he 434 00:20:50,708 --> 00:20:53,428 Speaker 1: grasping a new offense? Is he not turning the ball over, 435 00:20:53,548 --> 00:20:55,508 Speaker 1: is he making the right reads, is he putting the 436 00:20:55,548 --> 00:20:58,028 Speaker 1: ball on places he's staring down on his targets. Those 437 00:20:58,068 --> 00:20:59,628 Speaker 1: are all of the things we want to know from 438 00:20:59,668 --> 00:21:02,388 Speaker 1: Giants camp because that's going to be the biggest thing, 439 00:21:02,468 --> 00:21:06,068 Speaker 1: the biggest factor to determine what this Giants team looks like. 440 00:21:06,308 --> 00:21:08,188 Speaker 1: And then also they dropped off a little bit last 441 00:21:08,228 --> 00:21:10,228 Speaker 1: year on defense, so are they able to pick it 442 00:21:10,348 --> 00:21:13,428 Speaker 1: back up. Patrick Graham's gone wings there. We gotta see 443 00:21:13,428 --> 00:21:15,388 Speaker 1: what's going on with him on the defensive side of 444 00:21:15,388 --> 00:21:18,708 Speaker 1: the play against as well. Play against. I did play 445 00:21:18,708 --> 00:21:22,548 Speaker 1: against him in twenty nineteen Thursday night game. Very memorable. 446 00:21:22,668 --> 00:21:25,148 Speaker 1: He danced in the end zone. It was an awesome day. 447 00:21:25,548 --> 00:21:28,468 Speaker 1: It was pretty ugly. So nothing Yeah, no, I won't 448 00:21:28,468 --> 00:21:31,108 Speaker 1: put that one performance on him, but they need him 449 00:21:31,308 --> 00:21:33,468 Speaker 1: to play. But it was some interceptions going on there. 450 00:21:33,468 --> 00:21:36,948 Speaker 1: I think Gilmore broke one up that John Simon intercept 451 00:21:37,188 --> 00:21:39,788 Speaker 1: coordinators and head coaches away for this guy, which is 452 00:21:39,828 --> 00:21:43,388 Speaker 1: part of the problem with great. I gotta give him 453 00:21:43,388 --> 00:21:45,628 Speaker 1: an incomplete because I maybe kind of what I said 454 00:21:45,628 --> 00:21:48,228 Speaker 1: about Judge, just like things around him, just nothing was 455 00:21:48,268 --> 00:21:51,028 Speaker 1: really aligned. Here we go, As John Marris said, in 456 00:21:51,028 --> 00:21:53,268 Speaker 1: the spring. We've done everything we possibly can to screw 457 00:21:53,308 --> 00:21:54,948 Speaker 1: this guy up. Now they're trying to do the opposite 458 00:21:54,988 --> 00:21:56,508 Speaker 1: and make it right around. Well, we'll see how he 459 00:21:56,548 --> 00:21:58,348 Speaker 1: handles effect that they did not pick up his option 460 00:21:58,348 --> 00:22:00,628 Speaker 1: and what kind of fire he has in his competitive nature. 461 00:22:00,788 --> 00:22:02,668 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones will say your name because we need you 462 00:22:02,708 --> 00:22:04,748 Speaker 1: to stuff up within this Giants offense. We've got more 463 00:22:04,788 --> 00:22:06,748 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football coming your way, including a lot more 464 00:22:06,828 --> 00:22:09,908 Speaker 1: to discuss and unpack about Deshaun watson six game suspension. 465 00:22:26,628 --> 00:22:28,788 Speaker 1: If you're just joining us on Good Morning Football, it 466 00:22:28,908 --> 00:22:31,788 Speaker 1: has been decided by the independent Arbiter, Judge Sue L. 467 00:22:31,908 --> 00:22:35,588 Speaker 1: Robinson that Deshaun Watson has been suspended six games for 468 00:22:35,788 --> 00:22:38,468 Speaker 1: his conduct that has been detrimental to the NFL. She 469 00:22:38,708 --> 00:22:41,868 Speaker 1: was agreed upon as the independent arbiter between the NFL 470 00:22:41,868 --> 00:22:45,348 Speaker 1: and the NFLPA. This story has been unfolding with the 471 00:22:45,388 --> 00:22:49,628 Speaker 1: alleged victims accusing Deshaun Watson of inappropriate behavior since January 472 00:22:49,708 --> 00:22:52,308 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one, when Deshaun Watson requested a trade 473 00:22:52,548 --> 00:22:54,828 Speaker 1: to leave Houston. He's with the browns Now and now 474 00:22:54,828 --> 00:22:57,108 Speaker 1: we're going to welcome in Ian rep for Tom Pella 475 00:22:57,148 --> 00:23:00,028 Speaker 1: Sero who is in Cleveland and Judy Bautista. Guys, the 476 00:23:00,068 --> 00:23:02,988 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson suspension. The news has arrived as we're discussing 477 00:23:03,028 --> 00:23:06,628 Speaker 1: Ian you have the eatest what's going on, and Deshaun 478 00:23:06,628 --> 00:23:10,788 Speaker 1: Watson officially issued a six games suspension, but only by 479 00:23:10,908 --> 00:23:13,628 Speaker 1: Judge Sue L. Robinson. That is not you guys have 480 00:23:13,668 --> 00:23:15,628 Speaker 1: talked about the full story here. This is the first 481 00:23:15,628 --> 00:23:19,588 Speaker 1: time that the NFL has used this specific disciplinary process 482 00:23:19,668 --> 00:23:22,028 Speaker 1: that was mutually agreed upon by the NFL and the 483 00:23:22,148 --> 00:23:28,348 Speaker 1: NFLPA in the latest CBA. Essentially, they jointly appointed Sue 484 00:23:28,428 --> 00:23:32,588 Speaker 1: Robinson and then both parties have appeal rights, the NFLPA 485 00:23:32,588 --> 00:23:34,828 Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson, and said they are not going to 486 00:23:34,868 --> 00:23:39,148 Speaker 1: appeal the suspension. They said that before the suspension, They're 487 00:23:39,148 --> 00:23:41,668 Speaker 1: still not appealing these six games, so in their minds, 488 00:23:41,908 --> 00:23:44,268 Speaker 1: that is what it is. We now wait word from 489 00:23:44,308 --> 00:23:47,788 Speaker 1: the NFL. Are they going to appeal as Roger Goodell 490 00:23:48,188 --> 00:23:51,388 Speaker 1: going to appeal these six games suspension from Deshaun Watson. 491 00:23:51,588 --> 00:23:53,668 Speaker 1: You know, guys, we've been talking for months and months 492 00:23:53,708 --> 00:23:58,028 Speaker 1: about the twenty plus civil allegation civil lawsuits against DeShawn 493 00:23:58,068 --> 00:24:03,188 Speaker 1: Watson alleging sexual misconduct and worst based on his behavior 494 00:24:03,268 --> 00:24:07,428 Speaker 1: with several massage therapists. That is not what Sue Robinson, 495 00:24:07,468 --> 00:24:11,748 Speaker 1: the judge considered. She considered five specific cases that the 496 00:24:11,868 --> 00:24:16,828 Speaker 1: NFL presented. Four of those were accusers who filed lawsuits 497 00:24:16,868 --> 00:24:21,388 Speaker 1: against Watson so publicly and in the hearing room. Those 498 00:24:21,428 --> 00:24:24,828 Speaker 1: were two different things, two different lists essentially of allegations. 499 00:24:25,148 --> 00:24:28,468 Speaker 1: None of the ones she considered alleged that Deshaun Watson 500 00:24:28,508 --> 00:24:31,388 Speaker 1: committed any sort of violence. Maybe that gives a little 501 00:24:31,388 --> 00:24:34,468 Speaker 1: explanation as to why the number ended up where it is. 502 00:24:34,748 --> 00:24:38,028 Speaker 1: And just from a money standpoint, Deshaun Watson, of course 503 00:24:38,028 --> 00:24:41,308 Speaker 1: signed the huge contract two hundred and thirty million dollars 504 00:24:41,308 --> 00:24:44,708 Speaker 1: fully guaranteed. But because his base salary is so low 505 00:24:45,068 --> 00:24:48,428 Speaker 1: for this season, who loses just three hundred and forty 506 00:24:48,428 --> 00:24:52,908 Speaker 1: five thousand dollars from his suspension? Yeah, I and the 507 00:24:52,988 --> 00:24:55,788 Speaker 1: NFL has three days to conduct that appeal if they 508 00:24:55,868 --> 00:24:57,988 Speaker 1: choose to do so. So, Judy, what do you think 509 00:24:58,308 --> 00:25:00,828 Speaker 1: will be the next step for the NFL on their 510 00:25:00,868 --> 00:25:02,628 Speaker 1: side of things? Well, first of all, I want to 511 00:25:02,628 --> 00:25:05,228 Speaker 1: be clear about this. This should not be perceived as 512 00:25:05,348 --> 00:25:09,788 Speaker 1: Judge Robinson considering only five cases five is too many. 513 00:25:09,988 --> 00:25:12,548 Speaker 1: One is too many. The fact that she didn't consider 514 00:25:12,708 --> 00:25:15,148 Speaker 1: all twenty four was a decision by the league to 515 00:25:15,388 --> 00:25:17,988 Speaker 1: present their cases to her how many they wanted to 516 00:25:18,028 --> 00:25:19,628 Speaker 1: bring to her. But this is not a case of 517 00:25:19,828 --> 00:25:23,308 Speaker 1: only five. These are five allegations that were serious. She 518 00:25:23,388 --> 00:25:26,748 Speaker 1: called the pattern of behavior egregious. She did note that 519 00:25:26,788 --> 00:25:30,428 Speaker 1: it was nonviolent. I would expect the NFL to take 520 00:25:30,468 --> 00:25:33,428 Speaker 1: a minute and gauge the public reaction. Let's be honest, 521 00:25:33,588 --> 00:25:38,468 Speaker 1: there is a public perception issue here involved with the NFL. 522 00:25:38,588 --> 00:25:41,188 Speaker 1: They have had a history of difficulty in dealing with 523 00:25:41,228 --> 00:25:44,348 Speaker 1: these cases, the most famous the Ray Rice case. Many 524 00:25:44,388 --> 00:25:46,708 Speaker 1: people in the NFL remember that and are still a 525 00:25:46,708 --> 00:25:49,708 Speaker 1: bit haunted by it. They've tried very hard to improve 526 00:25:49,748 --> 00:25:53,028 Speaker 1: their image among female fans since then, and I suspect 527 00:25:53,108 --> 00:25:55,468 Speaker 1: they will take some time to see how this is 528 00:25:55,508 --> 00:25:58,628 Speaker 1: being perceived. Six games is much much lighter than the 529 00:25:58,708 --> 00:26:01,868 Speaker 1: league wanted. They wanted an indefinite suspension of at least 530 00:26:01,908 --> 00:26:04,988 Speaker 1: a full year. I suspect that they will be looking 531 00:26:05,028 --> 00:26:06,908 Speaker 1: at this. And one thing that popped into my mind 532 00:26:06,908 --> 00:26:09,068 Speaker 1: what we've been talking about this is during the Ray 533 00:26:09,148 --> 00:26:12,428 Speaker 1: Rice situation, an owner, longtime owner who was close to 534 00:26:12,508 --> 00:26:15,148 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell said to me, why are we going easy 535 00:26:15,268 --> 00:26:17,948 Speaker 1: on this guy? Let the Union take up for the 536 00:26:17,948 --> 00:26:20,588 Speaker 1: bad guy. And I do wonder if there are people 537 00:26:20,708 --> 00:26:23,348 Speaker 1: in the league who still feel that way that if 538 00:26:23,388 --> 00:26:26,628 Speaker 1: the Union wants to fight on Deshaun Watson's behalf, that's fine, 539 00:26:26,668 --> 00:26:28,628 Speaker 1: they can do that, but that the League should not 540 00:26:28,668 --> 00:26:30,788 Speaker 1: be in the position of giving him a slap on 541 00:26:30,788 --> 00:26:33,548 Speaker 1: the wrist in this case. Yeah, Judy, considering the cases 542 00:26:33,708 --> 00:26:37,068 Speaker 1: that the judge did here, remember she labeled Deshaun Watson's 543 00:26:37,108 --> 00:26:40,508 Speaker 1: behavior as egregious non violent sexual behavior that is coming 544 00:26:40,548 --> 00:26:42,828 Speaker 1: from the independent arbiter ian. And Judy, thank you so much. 545 00:26:42,868 --> 00:26:44,188 Speaker 1: You guys have to get ready for the rest of 546 00:26:44,228 --> 00:26:46,548 Speaker 1: the day coverage on Inside Training Camp Live, so we'll 547 00:26:46,588 --> 00:26:48,828 Speaker 1: hear from you again, and we'll stick with Tom Palasero 548 00:26:48,908 --> 00:26:51,028 Speaker 1: who is in Cleveland, and we're gonna ask him what 549 00:26:51,068 --> 00:26:53,468 Speaker 1: the feeling is now. You heard that Deshaun Watson is 550 00:26:53,508 --> 00:26:56,588 Speaker 1: in the building, So what is being said. What's the 551 00:26:56,668 --> 00:27:00,228 Speaker 1: vibe around the building now that this decision has been reached, Tom, Jamie, 552 00:27:00,228 --> 00:27:02,628 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is indeed in the building. I am told 553 00:27:02,628 --> 00:27:06,268 Speaker 1: he is expected to practice this afternoon. It is common 554 00:27:06,468 --> 00:27:08,708 Speaker 1: under NFL policies for a player who is suspended for 555 00:27:09,028 --> 00:27:10,868 Speaker 1: less than a year to be allowed to participate in 556 00:27:10,948 --> 00:27:13,948 Speaker 1: all activities, practice and preseason games all the way up 557 00:27:14,028 --> 00:27:17,188 Speaker 1: until cutdown day. So Deshaun Watson now officially suspended four 558 00:27:17,348 --> 00:27:20,388 Speaker 1: six games. This is in line with what the Browns 559 00:27:20,468 --> 00:27:23,508 Speaker 1: had been anticipating, going back to the months of research 560 00:27:23,548 --> 00:27:26,428 Speaker 1: that they put into the Deshaun Watson situation. They absolutely 561 00:27:26,508 --> 00:27:29,348 Speaker 1: knew a suspension potentially a link. Because suspension was going 562 00:27:29,388 --> 00:27:33,228 Speaker 1: to be a possibility, six games falls within the threshold 563 00:27:33,228 --> 00:27:35,068 Speaker 1: of what they believed it might end up being. We 564 00:27:35,108 --> 00:27:37,668 Speaker 1: will hear from some Browns players, or at least that's 565 00:27:37,668 --> 00:27:40,268 Speaker 1: what has been previously scheduled. I would anticipate will hear 566 00:27:40,308 --> 00:27:42,428 Speaker 1: from some of the decision makers in the building as 567 00:27:42,428 --> 00:27:45,028 Speaker 1: well later on today. They've also been preparing for the 568 00:27:45,028 --> 00:27:48,148 Speaker 1: possibility that Jacoby Brissette would be their starting quarterback at 569 00:27:48,188 --> 00:27:50,188 Speaker 1: the start of the season, if that ends up being 570 00:27:50,228 --> 00:27:52,628 Speaker 1: six games, if that potentially ends up being longer based 571 00:27:52,708 --> 00:27:54,988 Speaker 1: upon an NFL appeal, that's all going to play out 572 00:27:55,068 --> 00:27:57,028 Speaker 1: in the coming days here. So the league has three 573 00:27:57,108 --> 00:27:59,548 Speaker 1: days if it decides to file an appeal. After that, 574 00:27:59,588 --> 00:28:03,388 Speaker 1: the NFLPA, who has two days to respond to that appeal, 575 00:28:03,468 --> 00:28:05,428 Speaker 1: meaning that if there isn't appeals process that would be 576 00:28:05,468 --> 00:28:07,548 Speaker 1: heard by Roger Goodell or his designate, that would not 577 00:28:07,628 --> 00:28:10,788 Speaker 1: even begin until next week. And also you had the 578 00:28:10,868 --> 00:28:13,828 Speaker 1: NFLPA firing what amounted to a warning shot last night 579 00:28:13,828 --> 00:28:16,068 Speaker 1: with a statement saying that they are going to abide 580 00:28:16,068 --> 00:28:19,148 Speaker 1: by Judge Suell Robinson's decision whatever it ended up being, 581 00:28:19,148 --> 00:28:21,508 Speaker 1: and they called on the NFL to do so. In 582 00:28:21,548 --> 00:28:24,588 Speaker 1: other words, if the NFL does appeal this decision, and 583 00:28:24,628 --> 00:28:28,148 Speaker 1: if Roger Goodell or has appointee end up increasing the suspension, 584 00:28:28,268 --> 00:28:30,468 Speaker 1: this is definitely possible that it could end up in 585 00:28:30,588 --> 00:28:33,308 Speaker 1: federal court, a place where is Judi Batista pointed out 586 00:28:33,348 --> 00:28:35,908 Speaker 1: earlier in the show. The NFL generally wins at the 587 00:28:35,948 --> 00:28:38,588 Speaker 1: appeals court level, but in the short term the union 588 00:28:38,628 --> 00:28:41,068 Speaker 1: can cause chaos. We've seen it in the past, most 589 00:28:41,108 --> 00:28:43,668 Speaker 1: notably in the Ezekiel Elliott case, which went to three 590 00:28:43,668 --> 00:28:46,388 Speaker 1: different courts in three different states. He played in Week one, 591 00:28:46,508 --> 00:28:48,668 Speaker 1: then he was suspended. It ended up dragging out all 592 00:28:48,708 --> 00:28:51,188 Speaker 1: the way until close to December. In that particular case, 593 00:28:51,228 --> 00:28:52,828 Speaker 1: does the NFL want to have that type of a 594 00:28:52,908 --> 00:28:55,908 Speaker 1: shadow over the season to defend its rights under the 595 00:28:55,908 --> 00:28:58,788 Speaker 1: CBA on a process that this is the very first 596 00:28:58,828 --> 00:29:00,948 Speaker 1: case that Sue L. Robinson has heard under the new 597 00:29:00,988 --> 00:29:03,348 Speaker 1: twenty twenty policy in terms of her having the initial 598 00:29:03,348 --> 00:29:06,268 Speaker 1: disciplinary decision, the NFL and Roger Goodell or here's a 599 00:29:06,348 --> 00:29:09,668 Speaker 1: pointee overseeing any appeals Does the NFL want to go 600 00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:12,468 Speaker 1: that road again? They have three days to make that decision. Tom, 601 00:29:12,508 --> 00:29:14,348 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I know we're going to check 602 00:29:14,388 --> 00:29:16,508 Speaker 1: him with you a bunch of the rest of the day. Frankly, 603 00:29:16,508 --> 00:29:18,828 Speaker 1: in terms of the shadow that the NFL, if they 604 00:29:18,828 --> 00:29:21,188 Speaker 1: were to file an appeal, would cast on the process, 605 00:29:21,228 --> 00:29:22,908 Speaker 1: that's not really what I care about. I care about 606 00:29:22,908 --> 00:29:25,268 Speaker 1: the precedent that this is setting for behavior or future 607 00:29:25,268 --> 00:29:27,028 Speaker 1: behaviors that I really don't want. I really want to 608 00:29:27,068 --> 00:29:30,108 Speaker 1: stop seeing from NFL players. Yeah, and there's a lengthy 609 00:29:30,428 --> 00:29:33,908 Speaker 1: ruling from Judge Robinson that has not yet been put 610 00:29:33,908 --> 00:29:35,468 Speaker 1: out there, which is kind of surprising to me that 611 00:29:35,468 --> 00:29:37,628 Speaker 1: it hasn't at this point. But I did just trade 612 00:29:37,628 --> 00:29:39,948 Speaker 1: some text with someone who read it, and that person 613 00:29:39,988 --> 00:29:43,588 Speaker 1: said that she meaning Judge Robinson, generally accepted the NFL's 614 00:29:43,628 --> 00:29:46,028 Speaker 1: presentation of the facts in this case, but found the 615 00:29:46,108 --> 00:29:49,868 Speaker 1: request for an indefinite suspension inconsistent and unfair with past 616 00:29:49,988 --> 00:29:53,628 Speaker 1: discipline that basically in similar cases there weren't indefinite suspension. 617 00:29:53,668 --> 00:29:55,828 Speaker 1: So that's why she held it to that standard of 618 00:29:55,868 --> 00:29:58,268 Speaker 1: six games, which again, if you were asking me my 619 00:29:58,308 --> 00:29:59,828 Speaker 1: guests coming into it, I would say a judge is 620 00:29:59,868 --> 00:30:01,348 Speaker 1: coming in and saying, well, this is what you've written 621 00:30:01,388 --> 00:30:03,068 Speaker 1: as part of your personal conduct policy. I'm going to 622 00:30:03,148 --> 00:30:05,188 Speaker 1: hold it to that. That's the baseline, and the other 623 00:30:05,228 --> 00:30:07,228 Speaker 1: thing just kind of a pointed deal, if that's even 624 00:30:07,268 --> 00:30:09,228 Speaker 1: the right word. We talked about the money aspect of 625 00:30:09,268 --> 00:30:11,268 Speaker 1: this forty five million dollars signing bonus that's going to 626 00:30:11,268 --> 00:30:13,748 Speaker 1: be untouched. The first payment of that signing bonus it 627 00:30:13,828 --> 00:30:16,108 Speaker 1: was broken into fifteen million, fifteen million, fifteen The first 628 00:30:16,108 --> 00:30:18,868 Speaker 1: paint was due yesterday, so that's when the first installment 629 00:30:18,868 --> 00:30:20,548 Speaker 1: of this signing bonus it's going to be untouched went 630 00:30:20,588 --> 00:30:22,388 Speaker 1: to shelm Walton's way. I think what happens with something 631 00:30:22,468 --> 00:30:23,628 Speaker 1: like this is you get kind of numbs to the 632 00:30:23,628 --> 00:30:25,268 Speaker 1: news cycle, and we've been caught up in this race 633 00:30:25,308 --> 00:30:27,668 Speaker 1: for weeks, in this horse race of how many games 634 00:30:27,748 --> 00:30:29,348 Speaker 1: is it going to be in this number, that number 635 00:30:29,388 --> 00:30:31,028 Speaker 1: that you start to lose track of the human element 636 00:30:31,068 --> 00:30:32,748 Speaker 1: of the story. This is not a player who's being 637 00:30:32,788 --> 00:30:37,508 Speaker 1: suspended for peeds or even gambling. This is a very 638 00:30:37,628 --> 00:30:41,108 Speaker 1: poignant human story involving women. And there's this thing about well, 639 00:30:41,148 --> 00:30:44,868 Speaker 1: it's not thirty, it's not two dozen, it's five, Like 640 00:30:44,948 --> 00:30:47,988 Speaker 1: who cares if it's one? You could it could be one. 641 00:30:48,148 --> 00:30:51,428 Speaker 1: And there's also this non violent phrase that's being thrown out, 642 00:30:51,428 --> 00:30:52,948 Speaker 1: like is this some sort of band aid? The word 643 00:30:53,028 --> 00:30:56,348 Speaker 1: is coercive. And I look at six and I find 644 00:30:56,348 --> 00:30:59,348 Speaker 1: it very light. I hope it doesn't stay that way. Personally, 645 00:30:59,588 --> 00:31:02,748 Speaker 1: I think that Deshaun Watson leveraged his status as an 646 00:31:02,828 --> 00:31:05,508 Speaker 1: NFL player against women, in my opinion, and I think 647 00:31:05,508 --> 00:31:06,988 Speaker 1: it happened more than one time, and I think it 648 00:31:07,028 --> 00:31:09,348 Speaker 1: was enclosed doors in small rooms against women who are 649 00:31:09,348 --> 00:31:11,428 Speaker 1: probably intimidated. And it pisses me off to even talk 650 00:31:11,428 --> 00:31:13,148 Speaker 1: about it, and frankly, it pisses me off to see 651 00:31:13,148 --> 00:31:14,668 Speaker 1: the number six. And I don't think it's going to 652 00:31:14,708 --> 00:31:16,068 Speaker 1: stay that way, and I hope it doesn't. In a 653 00:31:16,108 --> 00:31:18,868 Speaker 1: professional setting, that's really what irks me too. This was 654 00:31:18,948 --> 00:31:21,548 Speaker 1: not in a social setting either, that these engagements happened, 655 00:31:21,588 --> 00:31:24,868 Speaker 1: This was done. He hired these women to perform a service, 656 00:31:24,948 --> 00:31:27,188 Speaker 1: a professional service that they have been trained to do, 657 00:31:27,428 --> 00:31:29,348 Speaker 1: and this is the situation that they got put into 658 00:31:29,428 --> 00:31:31,788 Speaker 1: with this young man. Yeah, my biggest issue is obviously 659 00:31:31,828 --> 00:31:34,148 Speaker 1: there was a process here and it went through the process. 660 00:31:34,188 --> 00:31:39,108 Speaker 1: But to hear the findings were an egregious sexual pattern 661 00:31:39,108 --> 00:31:42,868 Speaker 1: of behavior is very hard to deal with. Like you 662 00:31:42,908 --> 00:31:45,388 Speaker 1: just said, the human element of it, the fact that 663 00:31:45,428 --> 00:31:48,308 Speaker 1: we are saying as factual that there was wrongdoing and 664 00:31:48,348 --> 00:31:51,428 Speaker 1: that was sexual and that it was egregious. The six 665 00:31:51,508 --> 00:31:54,108 Speaker 1: games sounds so crazy that like it's hard to even 666 00:31:54,108 --> 00:31:56,868 Speaker 1: sit here and discuss amount of games like this was 667 00:31:56,908 --> 00:31:59,988 Speaker 1: the behavior at hand. And that's the scary thing, Like 668 00:32:00,548 --> 00:32:02,268 Speaker 1: six games, any type of games. And when you're going 669 00:32:02,308 --> 00:32:04,348 Speaker 1: to say, here, discuss it. When you hear those words 670 00:32:04,508 --> 00:32:06,588 Speaker 1: put together, you're gonna say, oh, is not enough because 671 00:32:06,588 --> 00:32:11,028 Speaker 1: it sounds crazy, egregious, sexual, a pattern of it behavior. 672 00:32:11,108 --> 00:32:13,628 Speaker 1: It just sounds so awful. And I know it's it's 673 00:32:13,628 --> 00:32:15,668 Speaker 1: the brown The Browns have taken it on is their 674 00:32:15,748 --> 00:32:18,108 Speaker 1: job to pay this person to be their quarterback. But 675 00:32:18,188 --> 00:32:20,468 Speaker 1: and then the language also comes down the fact that 676 00:32:20,628 --> 00:32:22,868 Speaker 1: the Browns they are going to take on the club 677 00:32:22,908 --> 00:32:26,468 Speaker 1: approve massage therapists, and this has to happen I would 678 00:32:26,468 --> 00:32:29,388 Speaker 1: assume at the team facilities. And Jason brought up a 679 00:32:29,388 --> 00:32:31,908 Speaker 1: great point, how do you think those massage therapists or 680 00:32:31,948 --> 00:32:35,708 Speaker 1: those team personnel people feel about taking on that responsibility 681 00:32:35,908 --> 00:32:39,228 Speaker 1: just to monitor this young man's behavior. A pattern in 682 00:32:39,268 --> 00:32:41,668 Speaker 1: which we has been labeled as egregious by somebody who 683 00:32:41,708 --> 00:32:44,148 Speaker 1: heard all the facts. And the fact that now everyone 684 00:32:44,188 --> 00:32:46,388 Speaker 1: else has to take on responsibility for something that this 685 00:32:46,468 --> 00:32:50,428 Speaker 1: person did to so many women. I find so frustrating, 686 00:32:50,468 --> 00:32:53,188 Speaker 1: and it's growing in me more that six games is 687 00:32:53,188 --> 00:32:55,748 Speaker 1: too late. I understand quickly, Jason, what would you say 688 00:32:55,788 --> 00:32:57,188 Speaker 1: to de Sante if you're one of his teammates, you 689 00:32:57,188 --> 00:32:58,788 Speaker 1: show up to work the biggest story in the world, 690 00:32:59,028 --> 00:33:00,908 Speaker 1: what do you even say? Well? How do you act? Wow? 691 00:33:01,708 --> 00:33:04,668 Speaker 1: What can you say? I don't know. I'm praying for you, 692 00:33:04,748 --> 00:33:08,068 Speaker 1: like praying not for you, for you, yes, for the women, 693 00:33:08,628 --> 00:33:11,188 Speaker 1: for just everybody. I don't I don't know what you 694 00:33:11,228 --> 00:33:14,388 Speaker 1: would say. I think a lot probably was maybe already 695 00:33:14,428 --> 00:33:16,908 Speaker 1: tried to be said or before this unfolded. I mean, 696 00:33:16,908 --> 00:33:19,268 Speaker 1: they've been around him since he was traded and I 697 00:33:19,268 --> 00:33:21,228 Speaker 1: would think as a teammate, you would have tried to 698 00:33:21,268 --> 00:33:23,748 Speaker 1: find out more about the situation before we got to 699 00:33:23,788 --> 00:33:27,468 Speaker 1: this point. So it's really really a challenging situation for 700 00:33:27,708 --> 00:33:30,628 Speaker 1: everybody involved to be in. Deshaun Watson suspended six games 701 00:33:30,748 --> 00:33:33,428 Speaker 1: from the NFL and the NFLPA that came down from 702 00:33:33,628 --> 00:33:37,028 Speaker 1: Judge Sue Robinson. We've unpacked this with all of our insiders, 703 00:33:37,068 --> 00:33:39,588 Speaker 1: both in studio and at training camps. The NFL is 704 00:33:39,628 --> 00:33:41,468 Speaker 1: still waiting to put out a statement, and we're also 705 00:33:41,508 --> 00:33:45,108 Speaker 1: waiting to read the specific ruling from the judge. But 706 00:33:45,348 --> 00:33:47,548 Speaker 1: Jason Kyle Poe's an interesting question. Do you, as a 707 00:33:47,588 --> 00:33:49,828 Speaker 1: former player, as a man that could potentially be in 708 00:33:49,868 --> 00:33:52,148 Speaker 1: that locker room with Deshaun Watson, how would you handle 709 00:33:52,188 --> 00:33:54,708 Speaker 1: a day like today? Man, you asked me, what would 710 00:33:54,708 --> 00:33:56,348 Speaker 1: I say to him? I think, as I thought about 711 00:33:56,388 --> 00:33:58,708 Speaker 1: I would tell him to change your actions. Like obviously 712 00:33:58,908 --> 00:34:01,188 Speaker 1: the things that I've transpired, the rulings, we know that 713 00:34:01,228 --> 00:34:03,948 Speaker 1: there was wrong doing. I think this creates an opportunity 714 00:34:04,028 --> 00:34:06,588 Speaker 1: to change that behavior, to change the course of it. 715 00:34:06,628 --> 00:34:09,188 Speaker 1: I've been around guys that have made mistakes, and we're 716 00:34:09,268 --> 00:34:11,508 Speaker 1: all going to have things that we do wrong way 717 00:34:11,748 --> 00:34:13,828 Speaker 1: and different things that happen in life. What you do 718 00:34:13,948 --> 00:34:15,748 Speaker 1: with it goes a long way, and this is an 719 00:34:15,788 --> 00:34:18,668 Speaker 1: opportunity for him to stand up for what's right, to 720 00:34:18,708 --> 00:34:21,388 Speaker 1: make better decisions and stand on that. So that's what 721 00:34:21,428 --> 00:34:23,948 Speaker 1: I would be telling Deshaun Watson. Appreciate you guys for 722 00:34:24,028 --> 00:34:26,748 Speaker 1: listening and being with us this morning. See you guys, 723 00:34:26,748 --> 00:34:27,068 Speaker 1: some aw