1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: You know, with the stock markets volatility over the last year, 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: I know many of us are wondering what's best for 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: our financial portfolios. And joining me is Charles Thorne, founder 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: and CEO of Legacy Precious Medals. He has been advising 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: people on their personal finances and investments for over twenty 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: five years, and given all of the stock market volatility, 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: with some big ups and downs the market, I thought 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: this was a good time to sort of pick Charles's 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: brain and get his advice. So how do you see 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: the way the market's evolving? Charles, great to be here, 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: Newton and yeah, interesting, the markets really are reacting almost 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: the way that they should if you really consider what's 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: going on. We should expect this pullback. Inflation being what 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: it is, the markets being told we're going to ease 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: up on all that free money we've been giving you 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: for almost a decade. Now you have to have some reaction, 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: and this is where we expect to see it. So 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: when we look and we say, okay, the NASTAC one 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: hundreds down thirty three percent, it makes sense, but I 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: would say it's not done yet. Cryptocurrencies, that's kind of 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: a disaster, and it's been very painful for a lot 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: of people. Sixty percent of its value. Now, with a 23 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: risky asset like that, it's not surprising it does go 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: up tremendously and it falls tremendously. But I think the 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: one that hurts the most is when the Dow Jones 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: Industrial average is down twenty percent. To me, that's your 27 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: safe money, right, That's where your retirement typically lives in 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: the Dow Jones stocks. So that's painful and that has ramifications. 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: But unfortunately, I don't think we're done yet. I think 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: we see more. So when you say we see more, 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: you mean you're like that. I have more interest rate 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: increases by the FED, more pressure on the economy, and 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: therefore more volatility in the stock market. Absolutely, absolutely, the 34 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: Fed is not done it. We heard that directly from 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: Chairman Powell himself. This is going to be a long 36 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: term situation. He's already said that expect rates to be 37 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: high longer than you think, so we know that's coming. 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: I have to say I was surprised the other day 39 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: when he said flatly he thinks he's got to get 40 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: unemployment up to six percent to be able to stop 41 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: the inflation. Well, that would be about double the unemployment rate. 42 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: It occurred to me, you know, he's not offering to 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: give up his job, but he's telling you he may 44 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: kill your job. I thought it was a daring thing 45 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: for him to say, and it is. It also goes 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: to show you that he knows he can't control this 47 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: scenario in the format that he has right now. Just 48 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: raising rates is not going to fix this problem. But 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: massive unemployment isn't a great solution either, because that takes 50 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: us to an area where we start looking at stagflation, 51 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: which is far worse than inflation. So it seems to 52 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: me that when you have this level of volatility that 53 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: it makes it even more important to try to find 54 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: safety through diversification. Can you talk a little bit about 55 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: how the average person going to think about their investment 56 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: portfolio and the idea that they ought to make sure 57 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: they're diversified enough the no one sector can wipe their 58 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: retirement Yours absolutely, and that is really the fundamental right 59 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: to investment for a retirement. You want to be diversified. 60 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: We hear that all the time, but then when you 61 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: listen to your big investment firms, they think diversification means 62 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: just different stocks, But it's more than that it's having 63 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: different asset classes. Typically I'd be saying, hey, you need 64 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: to have precious metals, you need to have a bond portfolio, 65 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: you need to have a stock portfolio, and possibly from 66 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: real estate, that is the ultimate portfolio going forward. Now 67 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: we have a unique situation right now, we know that 68 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: the bond market, it's too soon to jump in, is 69 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: interest rates go up. The bond portfolio you have loses 70 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: principal value because of the way the yield curve is established, 71 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: so that puts bonds in trouble. We know the stock 72 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: markets in trouble. We see that we're being promised more 73 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: to come, and real estate is becoming a risky investment too. 74 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: So when these times you have to look and say, 75 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: I know that I want to have multiple buckets of investment, 76 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: let me focus on the one that has the best 77 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: potential right now, and that would be your precious metals. 78 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: As things begin to smooth out in years, you start 79 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: to diversify more. But diversification is always going to be 80 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: the key true diversification. So when you talk about precious metals, 81 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: you're really largely talk about gold and silver, right correct, 82 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: That's where you get that protection from and as I 83 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: understand it, you can both have physical possession. That is, 84 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: you could have gold and silver and safe at home 85 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: or in a bank, or you can have a gold IRA, 86 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: which is a right to claim the gold, but you 87 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about protecting it yourself. Can you 88 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: talk about the difference between those two. Absolutely, gold that 89 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 1: you deliver to the person that they have in hand. 90 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: That's fantastic, and that's what most people think about, right, 91 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: And it's great. You can have it stored for you, 92 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: but it's not encumbered by a retirement account. It's freely 93 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: owned by you. Now, when I say that, it's not 94 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: that gold in your retirement account isn't yours. It's yours, 95 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: but it's yours based in that retirement account. Much like 96 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: when you have stocks in your retirement account, you can't 97 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: just take possession of those stocks and put them in 98 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: another portfolio. They have to stay within the parameter of 99 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: that IRA. But you can do that with gold also. 100 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: And the great thing is once you do that, that 101 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: metal that you have is yours. It's physical metal. It's 102 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: stored for you in a depository, but it's stored in 103 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: your IRA's name. It's not your personal name. Yet because 104 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: obviously the government in the IRS, they're going to want 105 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: to take their taxes as you take that money out, 106 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: so they hold it for you. But it is physical 107 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: and it is yours, and you can, when you are 108 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: ready to retire, take it either as the gold itself, 109 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: or you can sell it and take it as dollars. 110 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: It's your choice. That's one of the great things about it. Now, 111 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: when you've found a Legacy Precious Metals, you really want 112 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: it to be a different kind of company as it 113 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: relates to potential investors. Could you walk through why is 114 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: Legacy Precious Metals different? Absolutely, we're different from the foundation 115 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: point of who we are right. We created this company 116 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: not to just sell some gold and silver. We created 117 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: this company to educate people, to show them the options 118 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: that they had on an asset where people know about 119 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: it but don't really think about it. So we wanted 120 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: to set up a place where people can come ask questions, 121 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: get the information they need so that they can effectively 122 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: determine what's right for them. I often say that my 123 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: company is a customer service company. We happen to sell 124 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: gold and silver, but our main product is customers. It's 125 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: people understanding what options they have. That's my true product 126 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: and informed America where people can make the best decisions 127 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: for them, because ultimately, if we can get people to 128 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: realize there's a problem and show them solution, we do 129 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: an amazing thing. We remove the fear that they have 130 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: about their retirement, about their investments, and at ultimately is 131 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: the best thing. Great investment security, but not having that 132 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: fear about how they're invested really is an important part 133 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: of the process. I really appreciate the way you've approached this, 134 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: the way you think about it. Charles. Once again, I 135 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: want to thank you for your insights. I look forward 136 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: as the economy continues to evolve, we're going to ask 137 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: you to come back again and share us even more. 138 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: But for the moment, I want to let our listeners 139 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: know if they'd like more information, you can actually call 140 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: Charles and his team at Legacy Precious Medals directly at 141 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: eight six six four eight four four O four three. 142 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: You literally have a chance to talk personally with Charles 143 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: and his team at Legacy Precious Medals. Just call eight 144 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: six six four eight four four O four three, and 145 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: you can visit online at by Legacy goold dot com, 146 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: slash newt that's Hi, Legacygold dot com, slash newt to 147 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: find out more and to get a free investment guide 148 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: and Charles, thank you again for sharing these insights with us. 149 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: As always, it's my pleasure and thank you