1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: My pappy said, son, you're gonna drive me to drink. 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: And if you don't stop driving that hot rod link Ronan, 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: I noticed that a lot of you are you're driving 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: older cars, You're you're fixing older cars. You're attempted to 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: fix older cars. Got a Lincoln motor and it's really 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: suited up that model. A body does look like a 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: pub's got eight cylinders and uses them all. Got over 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: drive just won't stall, the Car Doctor. As these vehicles 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: get older, we've got to start to think outside the 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: box of traditional repair. Welcome to the radio home of 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: ron and Anian the Car Doctor, since this is where 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: car owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in The garage doors 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your call 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: at eight five five six, and now he running. Are 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: you keeping secrets from your mechanic? Hello and welcome. Do 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: you tell them everything they need to know? Or do 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: you sit? Do you set the process of getting your 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: car fixed up for failure? Do you are you afraid 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: to talk to your mechanic? Are you afraid to tell 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: them him or her everything that could possibly be wrong 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: with the car, or you know your concerns. I always 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: close out when I'm at the shop. When i'm pick 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: people are dropping off cars, first timers, and I haven't 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: learned how to read their body language yet, and to 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: you know, kind of extract the information. I always leave 28 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: them with the same line any comments, questions, concerns. And 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: you know that's your moment, that is your opening, all right, 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: where you're gonna go. Yeah, I know it's your for 31 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: oil change. But and you add that butt comment and 32 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: this way you explain everything. And No. Seven Tahoe came 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: into the shop midweek, mid morning Wednesday or so, and 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: um first time customer, first time consumer because she never 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: became a customer. I wouldn't let her. And I'll tell 36 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: you why in a minute. And it was my two 37 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: thousand seven ties outside the check engine lights on. I 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: can't get anybody to fix it. Can you help? You 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: know if you saw the shop that we he'd be 40 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: amazed that I actually walked outside to look at this. 41 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: The message on the shop answering machine is we're too 42 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: busy to answer the phone today. Leave a message, will 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: return your call. At noon and at three pm. If 44 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: you've got the shop, text number user because we're not 45 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: talking to anybody. And that's literally we ran that message 46 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: three days this week, I'm sorry to say, because we 47 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: were just you know, fourteen parking spots, twenty eight cars. 48 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: You do the math. So I walked out side and 49 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: I looked at Tammy's cars. I found out her name 50 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: was and it's an O seven Taha with about a 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: hundred twenty thousand miles on it. That's got a misfire 52 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: going on now. According to her, no one could fix it, 53 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: but no one's really worked on it either. No one's 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: really tried to solve the problem. I you know what, 55 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: I I just I guess I have a soft spot 56 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: for that, for that, you know, person in peril. And um, 57 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: I took the quick easy scan tool off down by 58 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: the door and I went outside and looked at it's 59 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: got a P zero three or five. Tammy, you've got 60 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: a misfire on cylinder five. And I explained what a 61 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: misfire is. I talked about when you walk, you walk, 62 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: and if you walk and skip, you know you're missing 63 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: a step and that's what the engine does. And she 64 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: got it. She understood the physics of what was going on, 65 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: So I said, let me just take a peek under 66 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: the hood. You know, maybe i'll you know, I don't know. 67 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll see a dead rat shoot through a wiring horns, 68 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: or something electrocuted itself and it's sitting there on the 69 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: manifold or something. Maybe i'll see something, who knows. I look, well, hap, 70 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: the ignition coils are marked with yellow marker. This is 71 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 1: number four, this is number five, this is number one, 72 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: And I could see where plug wires had been replaced, 73 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: and spark plugs were fairly new. Coils looked like they've 74 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: been moved around. And I turned to her and I said, Dammy, 75 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: did the car get tuned up recently? Yeah, it had 76 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: to get service that well. But isn't that part of 77 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: has anybody worked on it recently? Isn't that part of 78 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: that question? Oh? I guess it is. Well, I don't 79 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: want to tell you too much. I didn't want to 80 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: confuse you. Well, good, keep me in the dark, because 81 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: that way, you know, the bill becomes more expensive when 82 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: I have to look through every possible scenario. Don't explain 83 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: to me that, you know, maybe somebody touched something because 84 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: usually if somebody touched something and it hasn't fixed it, 85 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: it expands the possibilities of what could be wrong. Their 86 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: work not included or discounted. I sent Tammy on our way. 87 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: I sent her back to the mechanic that's working on it. 88 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: I know the mechanic that's working on it. He's more 89 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: than competent. He'll deal with it. And if he can't 90 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: deal with it'll end up on my doorstep anyway. So 91 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: I said, Tammy, just take it back and listen to 92 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: the guy. Talk to the guy explained things, because I 93 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: sort of had a suspicion in the back of my 94 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: head the way she was explaining it to me. She 95 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: wasn't very vocal or communicative, and I think that's just 96 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: so important in this process, right. It's just, you know, 97 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't fortune tellers. There's no crystal ball, all right. 98 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: They're not guessing. They don't want to guess. They want 99 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: to know, what are you experiencing? What do you want 100 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: to do? What's the budget? What can we spend? Car 101 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: Number two is even weirder. Must have been a full 102 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: full moon week. I think it was. I think it 103 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: was a new moonweek. I'm not sure, oh nine, Honda 104 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: Odyssey simple things. The A C didn't work and it 105 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: had an exhaust leak, and he was told by Honda 106 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: that to get the exhaust repaired, they'd have to take 107 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: the lower front suspension and cradled down, and you know, 108 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: a lot of things had to come out, and there 109 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: was a lot of movement involved, and that's why it 110 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: was gonna be over four thousand dollars for exhaust, which 111 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: always kind of gets my interest on how an exhaust 112 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: system becomes four a grand. But it's possible. I you know, 113 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it isn't. I just I'm just curious 114 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: as to what they're really doing. And the A C 115 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: needed a compressor. Now, you know, as Honda's go, I've 116 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: got to tell you. And I'm not saying that if 117 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: the car's purple it needs this, and the cars blue 118 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: it needs that. But I'm just saying, as Honda Odyssey's go, um, 119 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: we don't do a lot of compressors. For whatever reason. 120 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: It seems like the bigger problem with Honda's becomes the 121 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: clutch relay in the underhood fuse block on the right side, 122 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: or it becomes a leak because of the condenser once 123 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: in a while a condenser. But I'm a compressor, but 124 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: not as common as like a Honda CRV, if Our 125 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: Civic Civics and crvs. For whatever reason I I you know, 126 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's proximity to the ground, whoever 127 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: the original vendor was, whatever the reason. But they'll chew 128 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: up a compressor, no problem. Fine, bring it in. Let 129 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: me look at the car. Brings it in. A look 130 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: at the car. The exhaust leak is pretty cut and dry. 131 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: It's the forward piper what Honda calls the a pipe. 132 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: It rotted the bracket where you know it's It's just 133 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: amazing to me, right, these car companies, they make the 134 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: exhaust system out of stainless, they make it out of 135 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: a really great material, but they make the hangars and 136 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: the flanges at a conventional steel. So the stainless looks 137 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: great after fifteen years on New Jersey roads. But the 138 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: hangars are all rotted, and they've now chewed their way 139 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: through the pipe itself and it's leaking at at at 140 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: the weld where the bracket gets welded to the pipe. 141 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: At least the pipe didn't run out sort of. Um 142 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: that pipe is I think how much was that pipe. 143 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: That pipe was six and then the downstream cat just 144 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: after that piper, the B pipe as they're calling it. 145 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: Um the the nuts are so dissolved from the amount 146 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: of use on the road. And let's face it, if 147 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: you're living in the rust belt in any part of 148 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: the country, your your your exhausted nuts just seemed to 149 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: rot and rust and dissolve away. In this Honda was 150 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: no exception. So with the studs that were dissolving, I said, 151 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that I can really get the study 152 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: is out. We'll see what's left if I ever get 153 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,119 Speaker 1: it apart. When I get it apart, you know, maybe 154 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: it needs a cat, maybe it doesn't. Uh. The cat 155 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: was sevent you know, still a little bit short of 156 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: Ford Grant, but we're getting up there. The A C 157 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: compressor is the one that's sort of you know, set 158 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: my mind off in that I looked at it and 159 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: the compressor came on. It's short cycled and it shut off. 160 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: I said, gee, that seems like low charge. And I 161 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: went through my due diligence as you as you know, 162 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: as a regular listener, right, tell me what's good, I'll 163 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: tell you what's bad. I hooked up my pressure gauges 164 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: and it it showed me low system charge. All right, Well, 165 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: maybe I'm thinking maybe the dealer didn't leave a charge 166 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: in it. Maybe they charged it and took it out. 167 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: Maybe they I don't know, what do they do. I 168 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: recovered the refrigerent. I wanted to see how much I 169 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 1: took out. I took out two ounces on the twenty 170 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 1: seven ound system, so it was at a refrigerent pulled 171 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: the vacuum on the system, which I don't know is 172 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: necessarily want to say that's the you know, be all 173 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: and end all that it's going to be. If it 174 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: holds vacuum, then the system has got no leaks, because 175 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,119 Speaker 1: a vacuum leak and a pressure leak is two different things. 176 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: You know, suck in your air. You can hold air right, 177 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: but then if there's pressure involved, your lips always kind 178 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: of pop open and there's gonna be a leak. So 179 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: there's a big difference between you know, a vacuum of 180 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: pressure league check and maybe there's a pressure league somewhere. 181 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I gotta put refrigerant in it to 182 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: find out, charged it full charge and did my due diligence, 183 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: walked around, looked at all the obvious joints and flanges. 184 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: I looked at the rear where the rear a C 185 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: tied end um, sniffed the ducks of both nothing. Looked 186 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the condenser, nothing compressed or nothing. 187 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: Everything was dry, which kind of bothered me a little 188 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: bit because if the Honda dealer, and I'm not picking 189 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: on all dealers, I'm just saying this one in particular, 190 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: if they had done any kind of diagnosis, and they 191 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: just did this within the last two weeks, wouldn't they 192 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: have seen wouldn't I have seen an oil die, a 193 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: fluorescent die. A marker to tell me that the compressor 194 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: was leaking. But it was explained to the customer that 195 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: the compressor had failed, not a leak. Here's where it 196 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: got interesting. This is when the customer said, oh, yeah, 197 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: they have to charge the air conditioning every year for 198 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: the past seven years. Well, when were you going to 199 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: tell me that? Because that's sort of like a key 200 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: piece of the puzzle too, because and I explained to him, 201 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, had I known that we're dealing with a 202 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: leak as much as the possibility of a bad compressor, 203 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: I think I would have gone in a different direction. 204 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: I think the first thing I would have done was 205 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: recovered whatever refrigerment was in the system and charged it 206 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: with c O two. C O two is a much 207 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: more accurate way to leak check for refrigerant loss. Alright, 208 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: I've got a CEO two leak detector. It's very accurate. 209 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: It's the way we test the newer systems, the one 210 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: to YF for the twelve thirty four y F cars, 211 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: And it just would have made it actually would have 212 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: made the diagnostic bill a little cheaper because I would 213 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: have had it gone through as many steps. I also 214 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: looked at the tire pressure. I just you know, the 215 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: tire pressure light was on, and he said, well, I'm 216 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: gonna take care of that myself. I said, yeah, no problem. 217 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: But I never want to let a car leave the 218 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: shop if it's got a low tire. It looks bad 219 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: for us if they get a flat, and I just 220 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: don't want somebody to be in peril. I don't want 221 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: them to have any danger. I want the tires to 222 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: have air, and I'm like, there should and sure enough, 223 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: the right rear tire at twenty four pounds of air 224 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: in it. So I put air in the tire and 225 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: reset the system and the lights out and everything's great. 226 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, the the Honda dealer fixed that 227 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: before they you know, I let them fix that before 228 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: I left with the exhausting the A C still broken, 229 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: because you know, I figured they could handle that, and 230 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: they put a new sensor in the left front tire, 231 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: he said, but the light was still on when I left. 232 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: They told me that I had to drive around for 233 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: a while and eventually the light would go out. Huh. 234 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: The way it works, by the way, for the record, 235 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: if the system is right, within thirty seconds of driving 236 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: over twenty five miles an hour on the average Honda, 237 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: the light will automatically reset. So if anybody ever tells 238 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: you that, tell them you don't enjoy bologna at a 239 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: dollar fifty nine pounds or whatever the current rate is. 240 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: Maybe it's two fifty nine pound by now with nine 241 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: percent inflation, and uh, you know, it's just it's not right. 242 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: You know, when you go into a mechanic, it's probably 243 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: very intimidating. I understand that, And you know it's that 244 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: awkward silence. It's like when your your wife or your 245 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: husband drags you along to those neighborhood parties where they 246 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: seem to know everybody and you don't know anybody, and 247 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: you've got to get to know somebody, and you've got 248 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: to learn to build a relationship. I think I ought 249 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: to repairs a relationship. I really do. I think it's 250 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: just part of the process, you know, unless you want 251 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: it to be cold, cruel and calculating. You know, you 252 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: want to be number seven and you walk up and go, here, 253 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: my car's broke. It needs an oil change. Change it. 254 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: That's all I want you to do and nothing else. 255 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: And that's okay, I mean, that's your bag. I get it. 256 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: But you know what, in my mind, when you walk 257 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: up to the counter any repair shop, you really should 258 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: be saying, Hey, here's my two ton missile that I 259 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: cruise along the highway at a sixty with my wife 260 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: and kids inside. And I want to make sure that 261 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: it's safe, and I want to make sure that it's reliable, 262 00:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: and I want to make sure that it's gonna start 263 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: and all kinds of weather and it's gonna keep me. 264 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: You know, where I need to be between the lanes, 265 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: between the markers and not on the side of the road, 266 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: because that's really what it is your automobile, whatever it 267 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: is you're driving, is a haven. It's a safety net 268 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: for you. It gets you back and forth to work 269 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: or or recreation or vacation or whatever you're doing. And 270 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: the only way to keep it safe is if you're 271 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: really honest with your mechanic. So don't keep secrets. Tell 272 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: them what's going on, tell them your concerns, because I 273 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: guarantee you this. If your mechanic is too busy to 274 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: listen to your concerns, they're probably gonna be too busy 275 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: to actually try and fix the car properly the first time. 276 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome Ronan any and at your service. And 277 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: I say that for everybody out there today, especially the 278 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: folks out at kbg Z Big Country one on nine 279 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: nine and Elko Nevada. So I said that, right, Tom, 280 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: Tom smiling now that I get that right, Um, No, 281 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: I made a typo. It's one oh three nine. It's 282 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: one oh three nine. Oh, that's your fault. I want 283 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: to do it again. You want me to do it again. 284 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: We're live on it, okay, for everybody out there at 285 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: kb g Z Big Country, one oh three nine, Elko, Nevada. 286 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: No thanks, no thanks to tom and uh boil boil 287 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: point you know what am I gonna do with you? So? 288 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: Was it? Was it the road trip you had this 289 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: week that uh that that threw you? Now it was 290 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: called fat fingers when I punched it up wrong here 291 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: and uh you know, oh, by the way, the price 292 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 1: of bologna up the street here is for fifty nine pound? 293 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: Is it really? Yeah? It sounds like a lot of 294 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: Bolognay to may um. As long as we're dealing with 295 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: with with miss Ques, we should talk about last week 296 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: real quick. Do you want to explain to the listeners 297 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: about last week? Yeah, we had a little issue last week. 298 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: You may have noticed the show wasn't there. Um we 299 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: were getting to the satellite up link facility, but they 300 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: had a major failure of a piece of equipment at 301 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: their end and we ended up not being on the air, 302 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: along with a couple of dozen other programs that they 303 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: put up on the satellite. So um. Unfortunately, it was 304 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: one of those things and nothing we could do about 305 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: it from our standpoint. But that's that's the bad news. 306 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: The good news is Ron and I actually did a 307 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: show and you'll actually hear that show when runs on 308 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: Vacation in a couple of weeks, I get a vacation. Well, 309 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: like I heard, your wife was taking you kicking and 310 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: screaming out of the studio and I didn't want to 311 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: do it. But you know, if somebody's gotta stop fixing 312 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: cars sooner or later, I uh, that's a whole another conversation. Hey, 313 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: we're running late, Let's pull over and take a pause, 314 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: and when we come back, we'll we'll get started. I'm 315 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: running any of the car Doctor Tom Ray and company 316 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: will be back right after this for the best in 317 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: car advice. Give Ron a call eight five five five 318 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero. Now back to Ron. 319 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: By the way, Tom, let me ask you this question 320 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: before we go back on air. Oh we're on air. 321 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: Ha ha um. I trust you typed Mr Hudson's name 322 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: right and Brian simmons name right. Can I do a 323 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: shout out to that? Say? Okay, okay, I just wanted 324 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: to say that we appreciate Rich Hudson, who is the 325 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: CEO of kbg Z one oh three nine. And Brian 326 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: Simmons has actually given up his Saturday. He's there watching 327 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: the show today to make sure that everything goes off 328 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: without a hitch and uh, we appreciate the faith both 329 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: of you have, any us and uh, you'd like one 330 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: of their You like one of their Morning DJ's. Her 331 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: name is Sandy. She she drives a stick really yeah. 332 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: She she told me that her her dad told her 333 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: if she could do that, she could drive any car. Well, 334 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: and that's the truth. You know what they say, manual 335 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: transmission is the best anti theft alarm and uh theft 336 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: prevention device and a lot of vehicles today because a 337 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: lot of people just they look at it and go, 338 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: I went out to dinner, is real quick, and then 339 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: we'll get to the phones. Um. I went out to 340 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: dinner about a month ago, and I just you know, 341 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: I like going to fancy restaurants and taking the beater, 342 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: So I took the Ranger. Um, it was a business 343 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: meeting at this real fancy steakhouse. I pull up. Everybody's 344 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: pulling up in their Jaguars and and I pulled up 345 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: in my nineties seven Ranger with two twenty thousand miles 346 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: on at the bumper's half fallen off, and and he 347 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: hasn't been washed, and probably well it was washed the 348 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: last time it rained. It's one of those kind of vehicles, 349 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, and the kid looks out at the valet. 350 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: He comes out and he looks at it and he goes, oh, 351 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: can you park this? Or you can park? And you 352 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: know what, it happens every time. I got the park 353 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: right up front because they don't know how to drive 354 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: a stick and uh, you know, it was great. And 355 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: I got out of the car and the guy looked 356 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: at me and I said, hey, I said, be careful. 357 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: The last time I was here, all this stuff happened 358 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: to this car. And I went inside the restaurant. Um, 359 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: it was just just one of those moments. You're bad, 360 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: I really am. Um. But in any events, so hey, 361 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: listen real quick before we go to the phones. We'll 362 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: go to the phones after the pause, um, because we're 363 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: gonna rid up against the clock. UM. I just want 364 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: to point out, and this comes to us from a 365 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: listener down d C from Jeremy sent this to me, 366 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: um today that there was a massive bus fire in 367 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: Connecticut and they pulled all their electric buses from their 368 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: service fleet last Saturday. Yeah, I just you know, a 369 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: lithium battery sparked the Connecticut Transit bus fire and Hampton 370 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: last Saturday, when temperature stored around a hundred degrees. One 371 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: day after officials touted the passage of the Connecticut Clean 372 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: Air Act, including plans for thousands of electric vehicles, they 373 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: hit the roads. One of the eight run electric buses 374 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: caught on fire over the weekend. You know, I don't understand. 375 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: When we were kind of talking a year ago about 376 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, electric vehicle fires and how bad they are, 377 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: everybody jumped on me. I mean everybody jumped on me 378 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: and said, but Ron, look at how low the numbers 379 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: of electric vehicle fires are. And now all you do 380 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: is you read about electric vehicle fires. It seems to 381 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: be the ongoing thing. Wait, somewhere here in my pile, 382 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: this came to us from research Kathy bmw is recalling 383 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: I X and I four vehicles for battery issues, and 384 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: it says right in the article owners shouldn't drive or 385 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: charge their evs. And you know when the fix is 386 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: coming September, So you know, this is July. All right, 387 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: We're not gonna be able to drive our our you know, 388 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: fifty dollar en up vehicle for the next six weeks 389 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: because of we've got a problem with the electric battery. 390 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, it doesn't make any sense to me. 391 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: But if you're in Connecticut, I don't think you're driving 392 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: the bus or right in the bus, I think you're walking. 393 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: In any event, I'm running any of the car doctr 394 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: eight five five zero. We'll be back right after this. 395 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: Don't go away, welcome back when name the car doctor 396 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 1: here at zero, let's get over to Jeremy and d 397 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: C with a twelve Cruise and some questions about a 398 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: transmission issue. Jeremy, welcome to the car doctor. How can 399 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: I help? Hey man, good talking to you. Of course, 400 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: by this time, it's on its third cooling recovery bottle, 401 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: pretty much replaced the entire PCV system and every other 402 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: part of the cooling, some third water pump. Well, you know, 403 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: Chevy cruises were a great example, you know they were. 404 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: They were great if you're you know, a fledgling auto technician, 405 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: because there was an awful lot to replace on a 406 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: continuous basis. So if you don't understand it the first time, 407 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: you got to do it the second, the third, the 408 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: fourth time. Yeah. But the thing actually rides really good 409 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: for a small car, but it's just that plastic crap. 410 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: But anyway, it's my sister's car and she called me, 411 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: said the things shifting super super harsh. And I read 412 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: the codes on it and it's in like a a 413 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: limp home mode and it says the input speed sensor. 414 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: So I wanted to run this by you. My hope 415 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: is that the input speed sensor is just in fact 416 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: bad um and that sent it into a limp hole mode. 417 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: I'm going to replace that and the output speed sensor 418 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: in the driveway next week. Do you have the do 419 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: an ability to read data on your scan tool? Uh? Yes, limited. 420 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: Now I don't know if I could read transmission data, 421 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you could read the codes 422 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: um and I can read like throttle control angle, and 423 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, I can read a lot of stuff. So 424 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: your your scan tool probably is your scan tool is 425 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: probably you're probably going in under O b D two, 426 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: not your make model of the manufacturer. Correct for this one. 427 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: I definitely was just doing O B D two. I 428 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: have I have a Launch that I could do your 429 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: make model with. Maybe I should try that. Yeah, take 430 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: the Launch and I'm sure Launch will have it. Launch 431 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: Launch is you know, a matter of fact, we're talking 432 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: with Launch now. We're gonna be doing some things with 433 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: them going forward and Uh. You know, one of the 434 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: things I really like about launching the whole launch line 435 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: is they've got some really great you know d I 436 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: wire you know, for the for the Weekend Warrior, for 437 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: the Weekend mechanic um there. They've actually just come out 438 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: with a new d I Y scan tool um that 439 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna be taking a look at forum and commenting 440 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: on up here. But in any event, yeah, take a 441 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: look at the launch and you want to look at 442 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: transmission input speed and see where that is there. There's 443 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: gonna be an input and output chef speed sensor. Clear 444 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 1: the code, all right. If you want to write down 445 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: some of the things you saw on freeze frame, that's fine, 446 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: But chances are the faults gonna happen again, or with 447 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: your luck, it will be intermittent, which is a whole 448 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: another conversation. But you know, you're looking to see do 449 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: you do you have signal out of the input speed sensor? 450 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: You know, is it is it showing proper rpm signal? 451 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: Now keep in mind to change that. If we're going 452 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: by the book, the valve body has to come out, 453 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: all right, because there's two Yeah, there's two. There's two 454 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: lock tabs. Yeah, there's two lock tabs that you have 455 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: to undo, um, from the inside of the trains to 456 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: get it out. They bolted from the outside and then 457 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: they safety tablet from the inside. So um, now, how 458 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: how serious do you think I need to take? You know, 459 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: I got the whole data stuff subscriptions from my cars. 460 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 1: How serious do I need to take? You know, some 461 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: of the seals that advisors need to replay east and 462 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: I can already guess you and maybe a bit of 463 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: a there to get a hold of. But do you 464 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: think it is pretty crucial to replace and discard the 465 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: seals that they advised. If this was if this was 466 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: a if this was a thirty thousand mile vehicle Jeremy 467 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: two years old, I wouldn't be as worried. This is 468 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: a ten year old vehicle. How many miles are on it? Yeah, 469 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: come on, it's undo. This is usually when we replace 470 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: the trans never mind the seals. So you know, you know, listen, 471 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: don't negotiate it, don't don't skim, Yeah, don't skimp, and 472 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: you know what, don't negotiate with yourself analysis paralysis. Don't 473 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: don't sit there and say, well, they won't have it, 474 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: so I won't get them. Ask you know what. And 475 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: when you're talking to the g M parch guy, you know, 476 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: tell him if he said while they're on back order 477 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: or they're a couple of days away, tell him, you 478 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: tell him you want to Uh, um, where is its 479 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: spat case? I believe spat case is the expression uh 480 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: spat special handling and something. I forget what it stands for. 481 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: But um, if you spat case it at a GM, 482 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: it might cost you a couple of bucks. But they 483 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: can literally source it. Supposedly, a part that is special 484 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: order from GM is available within thirty six hours, regardless 485 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: of where it is in the in the system. UM. 486 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: I don't know how they do it. It's been a 487 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: while since I've done it. Um, you know, but it's 488 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: something worth asking, especially in this day and age. I 489 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: special handle a lot of parts now, just to get 490 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: them there within a day or two, even when I 491 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: know they're coming, because I just getting parts is you know, 492 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: it's like pulling Hen's teeth lately, It's it's really gotten 493 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: bad and it's just not gonna get any better. And 494 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: you know how bad does a customer need their vehicle? So? UM, 495 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: spat case is uh isn't I believe that's the expression. 496 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: It's been a while since I've used it. But as 497 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: your GM guy, hey, can I special handle it if 498 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: it's If it's not availables have a habit of going bad. Um. Yeah, 499 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: the sense the most well, the three most common things 500 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: on the cruises as far as trans is either it's 501 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: it's sensor failure, it's trans control module failure, or it's 502 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: the trans itself. So there's there's there's not a lot 503 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: of parts. It might be worth trying. It might be 504 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: worth trying the censors. Then I'll do well. But I 505 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: mean if maybe you'll get lucky, maybe you'll look up 506 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: and you'll look at it with a scan tool and 507 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: we'll read all day long, and you know, or maybe 508 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna get lucky in the input speed sensor isn't 509 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: showing anything, and then at least you know, you gotta 510 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: go do your due diligence. Look at the wiring harness. 511 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: Does it look like animal intrusion. Doesn't look like something 512 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: was nibbling. Um. You know, while you're sitting there with 513 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: it hooked up to the vehicle, try and you know, 514 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: take a long extension or pride bar and gently J. G. E. N. T. 515 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: L y gently tap the sensor. Does it distort the signal? 516 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: Does it cause the um you know, sensor data to 517 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: drop out on the scan tool? That type of thing, 518 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: you know. Let's let's not randomly do a three or 519 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: four hour pull the valve body, take the trans half 520 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: apart on a guess, you know, let's try and be 521 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: scientific about it. So alright, kiddo, Hi man, thanks for 522 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 1: the help. You're welcome, you'd be well, thank you, You're 523 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: very welcome. Jeremy, Jeremy has been a long time listener. 524 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: See you can tell right there's a guy working on cars. 525 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: He's got a launch, he's got all data and um 526 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, and away we go. So good job, Jeremy. 527 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure, sir. Let's pull over, take a pause, 528 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: Zo N zero and we'll be back right after this. 529 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: Don't go away, ye, welcome back Ronnie and the Car 530 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: Doctor here at eight five five zero zero zero. Got 531 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: a question, got a problem, give us a call. We'll 532 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: solve it for you. Let's get on over and talk 533 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: to Sam in Arizona one Chevy Monty Carlo. Sam. Welcome 534 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? All right? Thanks? Yes, 535 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: I was helping my friend with a cool week. It 536 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: was a lower intake gasket, and before that the car 537 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: was running fine, started fine, I don't find drove fine, 538 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: just had a coolant link. So we replaced the lower 539 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: intake gasket and put everything back together. But before we started, 540 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: the upper planum a little vacuum port by the alternator 541 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: you're facing, I guess on the passenger side open and 542 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: I think that goes to like a vacuum tank or something. 543 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: But anyway, so we put everything back together and how 544 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: the battery disconnect what we were working on. It reconnected 545 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: the battery and I capped that port. So I didn't 546 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: want a vacuum weak And so we went to start it. 547 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: And it won't start unless you have your foot on 548 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: the gas pedal, and it won't stay running idoline unless 549 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: you keep the foot on the gas pedal. Otherwise it 550 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: drives fine once you get it up to speed and 551 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: down the road. And so I disconnected. I took out 552 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: the idea are control valve, but still had the connector 553 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: connected it see if it was like getting enough air, 554 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: And when turned the key on, it shot the comb 555 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: rod across the driveway. You don't do that, but go ahead. 556 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: That's how. That's how you learned, brother. Yeah, as how 557 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: I know that did help in terms of you know, 558 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: I thought it was short on air or something just 559 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: and that didn't help. But so I put the idle 560 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: air control valve back in and and the interesting thing 561 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: is disconnected that I took off the cap off that 562 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: little vacuum port and you still have to turn to 563 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: push the gas pedal to start it, but it actually 564 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: idols without having the idle is really weugh without having 565 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: your foot on the gas pedal. But then it still 566 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: dries fine, So you think it's I checked the pressure 567 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: on the fuel rails with the key on but not started, 568 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: and it looks fine. And pressure during idoline and reving 569 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: it up, and look, the pressures look good on the 570 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: fuel rail. So let's let's it's eliminated a few things, 571 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: all right, Um, yeah, you know, just why don't we 572 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: love a fuel pressure gage on the rail and just 573 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: just let it sit there? See is fuel pressure constant 574 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,479 Speaker 1: and good? I'm pretty sure it is. I don't think 575 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: you've got a fuel pressure issue, but you know, just 576 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: let's let's eliminate things so we can cross it off 577 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: the list. Now, I let it sit there before I 578 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: started for like ten minutes and health pressure twenty minutes 579 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: and no, no, no, I'm not talking about that. I'm 580 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: talking about with the engine running. What's fuel pressure? Oh 581 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: it's like okay, and it stays. They're constant, right yeah, 582 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: right up, real quick. And if you take if you 583 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: take the vacuum line off at the pressure regulator, fuel 584 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: pressure goes up a little bit, not much, yeah, five pounds. Yeah, yeah, 585 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: that's fine. Okay, good take It's not fuel pressure, it's 586 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: not a fuel issue. Do you have a scan tool? Yeah? 587 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: Well the battery is disconnected, so there's no code. No, no, 588 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: that's not what I'm looking for. Do you have a 589 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: scan tool? Yeah? Actually, you know he's driven it over 590 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: the last couple of days and the code has come up. 591 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: What code? P are A one seven one, So that 592 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: tells me that it's lean. Right, So do you have propane? Uh? Yeah, 593 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: well it's not that. Do you have the tool that 594 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: goes with it? Uh, like soldering solder or copper? Well? No, 595 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: here's what here's what I want you to get, all right. 596 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: And you know, if you're gonna work on cars, you 597 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: gotta buy some basics, all right? O. T c makes this. 598 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: It's called it's called a propane and Richmond tool. We 599 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: originally used it back in the late seventies early eighties 600 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: when Chrysler came out with lean burn. That's how long 601 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: this tool has been around. Um. I think the part 602 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: number is SEV, but don't hold me to that. But 603 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: it's it's basically o TC makes a propane and Richmond tool. 604 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: You can find it at your local O'Reilly Ota parts store, 605 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: and I know they carry it. I've seen it there. Um. 606 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: And basically what it does is you're gonna screw it 607 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: on to the top of a bottle of propane, you know, 608 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: one of those you know, plumbers propane bottles, the blue 609 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: bottles or the green bottles, whatever it is in your 610 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: part of the country, and while the engines running very gently, 611 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: you're going to use it to sniff around, and you 612 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: know you don't want to flood the thing with propane. UM. 613 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: I actually take a brake line, a steel brake line, 614 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: I put it in the end of the tube and 615 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: then I pin the end of the line shut. So 616 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: now instead of a big three sixteen diameter hole, I've 617 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: got like a pinhole in the end of the in 618 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: the end of the brake line. And because it's a 619 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: mental line now we can kind of direct it like 620 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: a want is it here? Is it there? Is it there? 621 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: You know? And then last but not least, I might 622 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: take a little and shoot it down the throat of 623 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: the engine. Does the engine idle normal? Is it looking 624 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: for fuel? If it's looking for fuel, it tells me that, yeah, 625 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: we've got a vacuum leak somewhere. And now you've got 626 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: to go through everything. That vacuum port that had the 627 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: nipple off or that had the cover off, does it 628 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: does it actually have vacuum there? If you if you 629 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: put your thumb over it, do you feel suction? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Okay, 630 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: so that's wrong. That should be covered or there's something 631 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: that goes to that, so you should sort that out. 632 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: All right. I think I think it's a tank a 633 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: vacuum right, But but if it's uncovered, it's a vacuum leak, 634 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: and that could be causing that could be causing your 635 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: one seven one by itself if you just got if 636 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: you just got an open vacuum source after the throttle plate. 637 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: I gotta remember, this is a mass airflow car, right, 638 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: This mass airflow or a map sensor car. It's a 639 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: mass airflow car. Right. It's got a long black duct 640 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: and it's got a UM it's it's got a round 641 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: thing in the with five wires going to it. That's 642 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: a mass airflow sensor, all right, and simplistic turns. Any 643 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: air that's getting into the engine after the throttle plate 644 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't go past the mass airflow sensor is unaccounted for. 645 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: All right. Take a look at fuel trim do you do? 646 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: You do? You understand long and short term fuel trim 647 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: numbers a little a little bit, but all right, so 648 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: take a look at take a look at fuel trim numbers. 649 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what sit tight. Let me pull over 650 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: and take this last pause, and then I come back. 651 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: We'll explain fuel trimp. So I send you out there 652 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: fully armed. Don't go anywhere, zo n zero. The car 653 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: doctor is coming back. Don't go away. Welcome back in 654 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: the car doctor here. Sam, listen to me, baby. Um 655 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: that vacuum port that's unplugged, or the vacuum port that's 656 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: in question, is that is that on the passenger side 657 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: of the engine in the back pointing pointing towards the firewall. 658 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: It's right next to it. It's right next to a 659 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: stud that holds the wiring harness loom. Yeah, right by 660 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: the alternator. Okay, where's the power break booster line come to? 661 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: Comes before that kind in the middle, okay, And that's 662 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: connected right, that's under the lip where the rest of 663 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: the vacuum lines come in. That might be a cap 664 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: that's missing, all right on the other one, So just 665 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: keep that in mind. You put a cap on originally, 666 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: and he still had a press the gas pedal to 667 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: start it. And so when I took the cap off, 668 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: you had to press the the gas pedal to start it. 669 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: But it was idle. But it is was rough with 670 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: the cap off, all right? Was was that cap off 671 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: when you took it apart before we started? Yes, the 672 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: line was, there was a line to it. It was broken. 673 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: It was open, all right. So where's that line now? 674 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: You just got to kind of hang it out in space. No. 675 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: I took it off because I couldn't find the other 676 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: end to it, all right, So you gotta find the 677 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: other end to it. That that asside you've got. You've 678 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: got a couple of things going on here. When you 679 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: took the intake off, did you take the mass airflow 680 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: off the car. Was it? Was it a couple of 681 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: days or did you guys do this an in an afternoon? 682 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: Oh three weeks? I mean I mean we literally we 683 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: had to lift up the rock arms, right, yes, yeah, okay, 684 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: So just for giggles, I want you to I want 685 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: you to take the mass airflow censer out and look 686 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: inside it. I want you to make sure there's no 687 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: spider webs. Yeah, I mean I sprayed it with that 688 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: that mass fair flow sensor cleaner. Okay, well, just but 689 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: look inside. We're looking for spiderwebs. You guys have spiders 690 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: in Arizona, right, yeah? And you know did something crawl 691 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: up in there? Regardless? Get it back together. I want 692 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: you to do two things. Let's talk about fuel trim 693 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: real quick. Remember high school geometry, they were explaining number 694 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: lines and zero and then positive numbers and negative numbers. 695 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: All right, Zero is a balanced fuel mixture. Positive numbers 696 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 1: means it's adding fuel. Negative numbers means it's subtracting fuel. 697 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: Short term is today what you had for breakfast today. 698 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: Long term is what you had for breakfast all last week. 699 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: As it sees long term change, it's gonna add to 700 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: short term long term fuel trim shouldn't exceed fifteen. If 701 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: it does, it's gonna set a fault code. Look at 702 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: both banks, where are both bank long term fuel trims? 703 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: And then we can talk more about this next week. 704 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: Until the next time I'm run an aiding in the 705 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: car doctor reminding each and every one of you good 706 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. See ya.