WEBVTT - Rick Wilson & Kat Abughazaleh 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.160 Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:07.120 where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.360 today's best minds, and farmers are saying tariff's and Canadian 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:16.079 goods are already having devastated effects. We have such a 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.720 great show for you today. The Lincoln Project's own Rick 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:23.520 Wilson joins us to discuss Trump crashing the economy. Then 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:27.440 we'll talk to kat Habu Gazala about her run for 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.960 Congress in Illinois ninth district. But first the news Somali. 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:34.280 We're playing some clips, baby. 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:38.959 Yeah, I personally think it's very funny when the infighting happens. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.680 I know these are very serious times. People are getting 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.320 very there while it's very seriously hurt right now by 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:48.560 Trump's stupidity. But I want to play you and get 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:53.280 a reaction of White House Senior Counsel Peter Navarro talking 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:54.320 about Elon Musk. 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.280 Listen, man, I'm not where am I going nowhere? 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:01.320 That's interesting to hear at the beginning to talk about 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.760 his euro tariff zone when here Ada doesn't understand that. 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:07.040 And the thing that's I think important about Elon to 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:08.840 understanding he sells cars. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:09.880 That's what he does. 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:12.600 And if you look, for example, at the Tesla factories 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.080 in Texas, their assembly plants, and they get a lot 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:21.840 of their content from China, Mexico, Japan and Taiwan and elsewhere. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:23.959 Yeah. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.320 Wait, you're saying Elon Musk is conflicted. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:28.479 Wait wait, wait, wait. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:32.080 Wait till you hear about where is contracts come from. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:34.399 Will you hear about this guy, Donald Trump that you 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:34.959 work for. 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.280 Well, I'm sorry, but like you think Elon Musk has 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:41.959 a conflict, here, wait to hear about SpaceX, his company 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.600 that does space travel for the federal government. My man, 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.880 Elon Musk makes eight million dollars a day from the 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:53.280 United States government. The fact that somehow the tariffs are 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.920 going to be the moment when he's corrupt. Look, what's 0:01:56.000 --> 0:02:00.640 fun about this is that it's so incredibly bad that 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:03.720 they're all fighting with each other. And while Donald Trump 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.880 crash is the economy. So expect to see a lot 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:09.960 more of this, and in fact, we have more of this. Right. 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.760 Oh, I could go out about this all day. But 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.519 the stupidest one, of course, comes from the stupidest member 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:18.280 of the Senate, one Tommy Tuberville. 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:20.440 It's Thomas Tuberveil. 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.799 My apologies. Let me put some respect on. 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:28.200 Thomas Thomas to Berveil, the dumbest senator from Atlanta. 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:31.720 People in the United States back on track being self sufficient. 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.080 Speaking of China, the market is concerned. 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:35.959 Traders aren't concerned. 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.040 That the retaliation we saw on Friday could turn into 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:40.320 a full blown trade. 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.680 Wark your thoughts, well, First of all, Wall Street, it's 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:46.720 one of our biggest problems. They're the ones that's really 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:51.240 standing up and pushing back against President Trump. Wall Street 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:54.520 and the globalist they did not want change. They wanted 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:57.680 to stay business as usual. We cannot stay business as 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:02.360 usual in Washington, DC with President Trump, Northern American people. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.880 We have to change course and we have to build 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:06.960 a different team in this country. If we don't do that, 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.920 it's the only chance we have of surviving like we 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:12.720 had an opportunity the last two hundred and forty nine years. 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.040 So Wall Street has gone woke. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:23.239 Molly, Yeah, is capitalism woke, ladies and gentlemen, Capitalism is woke. 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:28.440 Now better to do huge tariffs and crash the economy 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:32.520 so that we can keep our way of life going. Oh, 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:36.480 Dear God, thinking about Tommy Tibervelle, I mean that man 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:41.280 is he's not smart. You don't say yes, you don't Yes. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:45.160 I want to move on because it's not just them 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.560 ruining the economy Trump. The partition is doing other stuff too. 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:49.320 Yeah. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.360 The judge that is taking up the case about them 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.520 deporting people to El Salvador is saying that they have 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.680 to undo their wall as deportations. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.920 Yes, woke judge says, you can't just send people to 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:08.280 scary prisons in El Salvador. Look, this is DC District 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.839 Court judge who says that describes one of the most 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:15.160 notorious and inhumane and dangerous prisons in the world. I 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:19.559 think they've sent at least two guys to this prison 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.640 in Al Salvador with no evidence of them being members. 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:27.640 This is a guy called Albrago Garcia. They said he 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.200 was a member of MS thirteen, but it turns out 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:35.400 he's just a guy and now he's in a really 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:38.800 scary prison. Look. Trump administration doesn't want to get him back, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.080 probably doesn't know how to get him back. But judges 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.239 need to make this administration follow the law. As much 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.440 as this administration doesn't like to follow the law and 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:52.720 just likes to do crime and also golf the law's 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:54.320 law for all of us. 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.800 Yeah, speaking of laws, they do like them when they 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.560 can do stupid things like, for reason, reversing bands on 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.200 toxic forever chemicals. 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:07.359 Yes, they are very into forever chemicals. Like Trump World 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.760 may not want to grow the economy, but they do 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:14.400 really like to pollute. And we'll remember this from Trump 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.680 one point zero when they put an oil and gas 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:20.480 lobbyist in charge of the EPA. The ruining the planet 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.080 is the point. And by the way, I love the 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.640 fact that when they put RFK Junior in charge of 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:29.440 our health and human services, they were like, yeah, he's 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.880 going to do all this good stuff with pollution. By 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.360 the way, what did he do? He just fired everyone 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.120 who believed in vaccines. Right, he didn't do any of 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.840 this stuff. The very few things he might have done 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.160 that one have been completely fucked up. Here we go. 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.880 Trump officials quietly moved to reverse bands on toxic forever 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:50.919 chemicals because toxic chemicals are your friend. EPA bids to 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:55.440 change chemical risk evaluations because honestly, do any of us 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.840 have enough plastic in our brains yet? Trump administration is 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.560 quietly carrying out a plan that aims to kill hundreds 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:05.719 of bands. I'm highly toxic forever chemicals and other dangerous compounds, 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:10.920 and consumer gifts goods, because really, honestly, how can we 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.920 live without more plastic and our brains. The bands, largely 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.600 at the state level, touch facets of daily life, prohibiting 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:22.000 everything from forembra chemicals and children's products. Those damn kids. 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.920 We had to get them to work in the factories asap, 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:30.440 to mercury and personal care products, to pfas in food 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.320 packaging and clothing. What's the worse it could happen? This 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:37.400 should be fine. If successful, the public would almost certainly 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.240 be exposed to much higher levels of chemicals linked to 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.839 a range of serious health issues such as cancer, hormone disruption, 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:48.200 liver disease, birth effects, and reproductive system damage. By the way, 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:51.200 the good news is that DOGE caught a lot of 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:54.960 NIH funding the National Institute of Health, so there's less 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.880 cancer research. So when you get that cancer, there's going 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:01.520 to be less treatments. Congratulations to all who celebrate. 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.359 So speaking of things that are all of a sudden 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.960 woke that shouldn't be woke, Mitch McConnell is calling out 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:12.880 Trump for hiring amateur isolationists at the Pentagon and firing 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:16.000 the NSA director after Laura Lumer told him to. 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:20.520 Turns out Mitch McConnell and Laura Lumer on the opposite 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.360 side of the issues, who could have seen it? Certainly 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:27.160 not I. So you remember earlier this week in season 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:31.280 two of the End of American Democracy, Laura Lumer, who 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.560 is from Florida and has had a lot of plastic 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:37.040 surgery but is shockingly only thirty two years old, got 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.360 back into the White House. She got her claws on 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.440 the dawn and she started explaining to him some of 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.960 her wacky worldview, and then she was able to fire 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:52.200 a number of national security professionals because she's Laura Lumer. Ergo, 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:56.120 why not? She fired a guy called Timothy haw a 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.920 for star general with thirty three years of experience and 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:03.239 intelligence by Laura Lumer has thirty one years of being 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:09.800 fabulous and getting filler. So without providing any explanation, he 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:14.520 was fired. Trump fired now six other National Security Council 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:18.720 officials after meeting with the conservative activists and social media 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:22.200 influencer Laura Lumer in the Oval Office. Lumer presented a 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.160 list of officials to Trump that she argued were not 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:29.760 loyal to the president. Oh yes, in case you're wondering, 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.600 it probably will get stupid or but it is very 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:39.640 hard to imagine at this moment. Rick Wilson is the 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.040 founder of the Lincoln Project and the host of the 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:43.600 Enemy's List, started to think. 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.120 Things out there right now, Molly, who. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.160 Have always known this, who have from the beginning been 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:52.040 quite clear about this, who knew from the jump not 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.040 only that this was dumber than a bag I had here, 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.800 but also that it was also inevitable that the dumbest 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.960 president to ever hold the office would do the dumbest 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:02.680 possible thing. 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:03.679 And here we are. 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.400 It's a world of incredible stupidity. 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:10.199 Listen, man, I'm going to read you the axios. Axios 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:14.320 does this thing because breeding one hundred birds is too hard. 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:20.000 Why it matters? All all Bolds, The conservative think tank 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.280 says the error led to tariffs raised massively higher than 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.320 they should have been to achieve the goals the administration saw. 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.839 I mean, why it matters. It matters because they're crashing 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:31.080 the public markets. 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.959 It matters because they've incinerated ten trillion with a t 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:40.400 dollars of invested funds, and those funds weren't like there 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.920 just by the sovereign wealth fund of some other country. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.839 A lot of those funds were little old ladies who 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.480 put their retirement in the market. A lot of those 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.520 funds were the local school board or the state pension 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:55.320 fund or whatever it is. Trump has gleefully incinerated. And 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.440 he said it this weekend. I don't care if I 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.400 crash economy. He doesn't care. He does not care. You 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.600 know why. First off, for him, the more chaos. I've 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.360 really been thinking about this a lot over the weekend. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.040 The more chaos for him right now, the better. So 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.559 this week, when he announces he's going to invade Greenland 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:14.720 or whatever other unbelievably dumb thing comes out of his brain, 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.200 he's got more distractions waiting in the wings to have 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:22.000 America go, oh, that's interesting. We're not just doing this 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.000 the one or two stupid things. We're doing a lot 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.319 of the once and to distract people from the absolute 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.880 economic calamity that he has engineered for this country. 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.480 But I also think, and I want to add this 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:36.800 because I think it's important to remember how stupid everything is. 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.439 There's a guy called Josh Marshall. You and I are 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:43.200 friends with him. Sure, he is very, very smart. He 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:46.640 actually has a PhD. Like Matt Greenfield, my long suffering 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.840 spas and need a really good point, which is that 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:55.840 doge is actually not saving any money, and found it's 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:59.600 going to lose about happened trillion dollars this year, probably 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.040 more one hundred percent. 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.600 Just breaking things does not save money. Just causing chaos 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.600 does not save a single time. And what they're doing 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.920 right now is just breaking things and causing chaos. 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:17.679 Yes, and also perhaps enriching themselves as as is the 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.240 want of yes a mystry. 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.880 You know, I heard on Sunday that Donald Trump had 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.280 sold off two billion dollars to Shares, a true social 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.240 just before the announcement. Now I haven't run that whole 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.040 story down yet, but that would be the most on 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.480 brand thing for this corrupt m effort to do that 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.640 I could conceive, because why wouldn't he. 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:42.080 They pardoned all of these people who had done like 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.760 financial crimes, like the Silk Road guy. I mean, the 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:48.000 Silk Road guy also may or may not have hired hitman, 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.800 but like there were all sorts of other people. I mean, 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.960 for example, they brought over the Tate Brothers. I mean, 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.480 you know, basically, the idea was like crimes against women 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:02.520 and financial crimes, that kind of stuff like fraud anything 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:06.520 white collery isn't really a crime. Also hiring a hit man. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.719 You know, look, as long as you do it online, 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:14.040 it's shiny and modern and digital and not sordid and terrified. 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.079 We're in a moment of corruption in this country. I'm 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.240 going to use a Trumpian phrase now, the likes of 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:24.600 which we've never seen before. It is corrupt because as 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.200 a nation, we're letting it be. The US Senate right 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:32.480 now has shown some vague, elliptical stirrings of life in 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:33.440 the last few days. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:37.120 Yeah, they don't like it when their guide crashes. 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.720 The economy suddenly. And look, most people in the Senate 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.640 who were in the Senate got to the Senate because 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.280 they like power and they like money, and they would 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.520 like more of the same. And I think that there 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.280 is a sense right now. You know, look they're all 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.319 saying it. Ted Cruz is out saying Donald Trump is 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:57.120 leading us towards an electoral political disaster. Let's help broken 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:58.760 clocks twice a day all that. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.240 I like to call them lion Ted, But yes, continue. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:03.600 You know that's got a ring to it. 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:04.120 I like it. 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.800 Yeah, Yeah, look, they see the writing on the wall. 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.520 What I'd actually like to talk to you about is 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:12.959 so Ted Cruz, there are a lot. There are a 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.920 couple other senators we're thinking of. I think we were 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:17.680 actually talking about this on We talked. 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.040 About this the other day. Yeah, you've got Cornyn, You've 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.560 got Tillis, You've got Susan Collins, who Trump has definitely 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:27.240 learned his economic lesson. There's a lot of people. Now. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.560 The muttering is not McConnell. The muttering isn't just behind 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:34.040 the cloak of anonymity. Now where senators declined to comment 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.520 on the record to protect their lives insanity, they're not 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.000 out saying this is a dumb, bad, horrible, stupid idea. Stop. 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:45.000 But I also want to talk about something else, which is, yeah, 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.640 so you've got some Republicans going against crashing the market 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:51.800 for no reason. Then you also have this very interesting 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.240 phenomenon which we didn't talk about but we need to 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.600 talk about, which is the Koch Brothers. 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.800 Go on, tell me more about these mysterious fellows. 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.080 You may have one of them is actually dead. You 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:08.959 may have worked for them. In fact, we know you did. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:13.240 So the New Civil Liberties Alliance which perhaps you've heard of, 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.800 a five oh one nonprofit public interest firm which their 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:22.640 interest is largely about serving the Koch Brothers. That crew 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:28.040 has launched a challenge, a legal challenge to one Donald 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.680 Trump for his tariffs on China. I know you will 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:36.080 be shocked to hear this, but they have decided that 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:41.040 they're going to sue Trump over these tariffs. So now, 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.920 this is the Citizens United crew. This is the worst 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.280 of the worst. This is the Koch Brothers crew. This 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:52.120 is these guys tend to win because they're so evil 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:53.520 and naughty discussed. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.600 My question for you now is and I'm gonna I'm 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.600 going to go back and wheel back to unlesson. I 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.880 learned along time ago, and I've applied this to many 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:03.360 candidates when they say to me at the end of 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:04.560 the campaign, I. 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.320 Don't want to run that terrible negative ad. No, my 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:10.840 wife hates it, my kids hate it, and my friends 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:12.640 all hate it. At the country club. I can't shut 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.320 my face again if I run that terrible ad. I 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.400 know the polling says I have to do it, and 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.000 you ask them a simple question. All right, So next 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:23.080 Tuesday night, around eight o'clock at night after the election's over. 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:27.280 Do you want to be the scumbag or the honorable scumbag? 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:32.160 Putting the honorable scumbag ahead generally tends to be the 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.200 thing that gets people over the hump of doing what 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.600 has to be done. You may not like these guys, 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.720 you may find them uncomfortable. 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.200 As an ally the enemy of my enimey. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:46.360 Yes, but they have a fairly long track record of 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:51.280 being able to deploy resources to whack bad guys in 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.040 their mind, whoever they're bad guys they're targeting at that moment. 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.640 They have a fairly good track record of that. And 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.200 in this world, you don't really want to like leave 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:02.000 a lot on the table. You don't really want to 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.600 leave a lot of questions on the table, like did 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.040 we do everything we could to fuck Trump up? Did 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.360 we do everything we could to kick his ass? If 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:13.040 it involves a center right coalition joining the other broad 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.080 coalition of people around the country to go and kick 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.600 Trump's ass, let's all go kick Trump's ass together. We 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.600 can fight later, we can we can shake all that 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.840 shit out later. Everybody can agree to agree to to, 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.320 you know, attack the monster while it's bringing down the village, 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.320 and then later we can figure out all of our 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.040 old beefs can come back and we can settle our 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:35.440 all all the family business later. 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.720 Yeah, it's true, but I do think it is pretty 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:45.200 amazing that this crew receives financial support from entities affiliated 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:50.440 with Charles Coke and Leonard leon There is a weird 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.680 it's called capitalism, capitalism versus moronics. 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.120 No, here's the other part of it. There is a 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:02.040 degree to which inside even even the federalist society world, 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:06.119 there is a certain concern about rule of law that 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.119 is real. They have many flaws, but they have a 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:10.960 certain concern about rule law that they have not been 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.919 able to say publicly. Like everybody else trapped in the 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:17.720 Trump matrix. Once you're stuck in there, like you get 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:19.639 something good out of him once and you're like, okay, 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.320 well now all I have to do is pretend everything 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:23.120 he does is right. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.560 Yeah, for the rest of my life, for. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.960 The rest of my life. And they're trapped in it. Look, 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.479 Scott Bessen wants to run the fuck away from Washington 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.480 and the Treasury right now because he's embarrassed and horrified, 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.480 but he can't. He's now trapped. He's like, I'll never 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.040 work again if I if I cross the sky. You know, 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:39.680 what do I do? 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:41.920 He's probably never going to work again either way. 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:45.760 I mean, that's still exactly. That's something they often fail 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.840 to realize, like that Wilson rule about everything Trump touches 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:50.480 and dies. Yeah, that's a real thing. 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:50.800 Guys. 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:54.439 Well, let's ask Rudy Julian how it's going. 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.639 Well, he was at least on Wall Street through the 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.600 day with Chris Ruddy with the NEWSMA. 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.800 So on Friday when the market dropped, I don't know, 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:10.520 fifteen hundred points, twelve hundred points that some jillion points, yes, 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:15.320 quite lost, you know whatever. Millions of dollars just evaporate, 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:22.240 atro trillions of des with your te trillions of dollars evaporated. 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:27.159 The people who raging the opening bell were Newsmax, just 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:28.920 ready in Newsmax. 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:29.560 Yep. 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:33.520 Some of the follow on propagandists to the Rupert era 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.600 for those that you can find Rupert Murdoch to Middle 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:41.359 of the Road and the Fox products to restrained his 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.520 praise of drup Right, there's Newsmax. 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:45.960 You know. 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:48.280 I like to think of it as Fox without the 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:49.600 good production values. 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:52.560 I like to think of it about as Fox without 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:54.520 the restraint in the dignity yes. 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:58.320 Well, what I like about Newsmax is that Greg Kelly's 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:00.400 son has a program on there. 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:05.720 Oh my god, that guy is a truly agreedious grunting 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.040 more on the best. 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:10.920 So let's just talk about this. We have this massive 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.600 Trump tariff based on massive Eric conservative think tank says 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:18.880 tomorrow the market's open. Trump has been golfing all weekend. 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.439 We don't have to saw it with a Saudi murder 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:22.280 murder regime. 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:28.480 Right, It's called the Live Yes golf tournament. A lot 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.679 of stuff has happened, none of them. 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.200 Whats you buy Striker? Striker industrial medical tool is perfect 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:35.560 for dismembering dissidents. 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.840 Yeah, so that's going on. I mean, does the market 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.800 just keep creating? What do you think what. 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:43.720 Has happened over the weekend to change anything? 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:48.399 I mean, does eventually Susie Wilds go like, come on, man. 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.320 No, where's what I actually I think is going to happen. 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:55.440 We're going to end up with a real blood bath 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:57.560 for about another week to ten days. 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:02.400 Wow, that's going to be millions, billions, trillions, zillions. 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.720 Yes, at that point, John Thune and Grinder Grinder Johnson 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.119 are going to go down to the White House and 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.879 they're going to say, sir grinder John, We're about to 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:18.720 lose both houses spectacularly. We're about to lose fifty seats 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:20.880 in the House and fifteen seats in the Senate. We're 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:22.960 about to lose every governor's race. We're about to lose 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:27.120 state legislatures. We're about to get blown the fuck out. Yeah, 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:29.679 so you either stop this shit right now or it's 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:32.960 on your head. We love you, we worship you, and 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.960 yet you have done something profoundly stupid. 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:37.680 And then what do you think happened? 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:41.720 Look, he so dug in Molly on Sunday afternoon, the 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.879 overnight action on the on the markets, you're going to 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.879 see another drop on the NASDAK of six percent, another 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.320 drop on the S and P of six point five percent, 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.679 another drop on the Dow Jones of five point five percent, 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.680 the Russell four point three percent. The only index that's 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:57.200 going up right now is the VIX, which is the 0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.600 uncertainty and fear index, and that's up fiftyo point nine 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:03.560 to three percent. This weekend is a bad. 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.959 Dayo Oh that who celebrate? You think he's just going 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:08.360 to at some point. 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:11.359 I think at some point they're going to say to him, sir, sir, 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:13.480 they came to be in said here, we have to 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:16.600 pass a bill that says your tariffs are bullshit, and 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.520 Trump will veto it and they'll have to override it, 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:23.320 and we're going to go into this long, ugly grind 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.679 of I think very great hostility between Trump and his 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.520 own base, or Trump and his own allies in Congress, 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:31.840 and I'm here for it. He has already done a 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:36.600 phenomenal job of tainting the rest of of his second term. 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:39.400 I mean, this is like such a weird moment, right, 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:44.960