1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: today's best minds, and farmers are saying tariff's and Canadian 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: goods are already having devastated effects. We have such a 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: great show for you today. The Lincoln Project's own Rick 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: Wilson joins us to discuss Trump crashing the economy. Then 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: we'll talk to kat Habu Gazala about her run for 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Congress in Illinois ninth district. But first the news Somali. 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: We're playing some clips, baby. 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, I personally think it's very funny when the infighting happens. 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: I know these are very serious times. People are getting 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: very there while it's very seriously hurt right now by 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: Trump's stupidity. But I want to play you and get 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: a reaction of White House Senior Counsel Peter Navarro talking 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: about Elon Musk. 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: Listen, man, I'm not where am I going nowhere? 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: That's interesting to hear at the beginning to talk about 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: his euro tariff zone when here Ada doesn't understand that. 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: And the thing that's I think important about Elon to 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: understanding he sells cars. 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 4: That's what he does. 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: And if you look, for example, at the Tesla factories 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: in Texas, their assembly plants, and they get a lot 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: of their content from China, Mexico, Japan and Taiwan and elsewhere. 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 4: Yeah. 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: Wait, you're saying Elon Musk is conflicted. 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 4: Wait wait, wait, wait. 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: Wait till you hear about where is contracts come from. 29 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 4: Will you hear about this guy, Donald Trump that you 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 4: work for. 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry, but like you think Elon Musk has 32 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: a conflict, here, wait to hear about SpaceX, his company 33 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: that does space travel for the federal government. My man, 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: Elon Musk makes eight million dollars a day from the 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: United States government. The fact that somehow the tariffs are 36 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: going to be the moment when he's corrupt. Look, what's 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: fun about this is that it's so incredibly bad that 38 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: they're all fighting with each other. And while Donald Trump 39 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: crash is the economy. So expect to see a lot 40 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: more of this, and in fact, we have more of this. Right. 41 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: Oh, I could go out about this all day. But 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 2: the stupidest one, of course, comes from the stupidest member 43 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: of the Senate, one Tommy Tuberville. 44 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: It's Thomas Tuberveil. 45 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 4: My apologies. Let me put some respect on. 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: Thomas Thomas to Berveil, the dumbest senator from Atlanta. 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 5: People in the United States back on track being self sufficient. 48 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 6: Speaking of China, the market is concerned. 49 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 7: Traders aren't concerned. 50 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 6: That the retaliation we saw on Friday could turn into 51 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 6: a full blown trade. 52 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 5: Wark your thoughts, well, First of all, Wall Street, it's 53 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 5: one of our biggest problems. They're the ones that's really 54 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 5: standing up and pushing back against President Trump. Wall Street 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 5: and the globalist they did not want change. They wanted 56 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 5: to stay business as usual. We cannot stay business as 57 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 5: usual in Washington, DC with President Trump, Northern American people. 58 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 5: We have to change course and we have to build 59 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 5: a different team in this country. If we don't do that, 60 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 5: it's the only chance we have of surviving like we 61 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 5: had an opportunity the last two hundred and forty nine years. 62 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: So Wall Street has gone woke. 63 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: Molly, Yeah, is capitalism woke, ladies and gentlemen, Capitalism is woke. 64 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: Now better to do huge tariffs and crash the economy 65 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: so that we can keep our way of life going. Oh, 66 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: Dear God, thinking about Tommy Tibervelle, I mean that man 67 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: is he's not smart. You don't say yes, you don't Yes. 68 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: I want to move on because it's not just them 69 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: ruining the economy Trump. The partition is doing other stuff too. 70 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 71 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: The judge that is taking up the case about them 72 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: deporting people to El Salvador is saying that they have 73 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: to undo their wall as deportations. 74 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Yes, woke judge says, you can't just send people to 75 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: scary prisons in El Salvador. Look, this is DC District 76 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 1: Court judge who says that describes one of the most 77 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: notorious and inhumane and dangerous prisons in the world. I 78 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 1: think they've sent at least two guys to this prison 79 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: in Al Salvador with no evidence of them being members. 80 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: This is a guy called Albrago Garcia. They said he 81 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: was a member of MS thirteen, but it turns out 82 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: he's just a guy and now he's in a really 83 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: scary prison. Look. Trump administration doesn't want to get him back, 84 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: probably doesn't know how to get him back. But judges 85 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 1: need to make this administration follow the law. As much 86 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: as this administration doesn't like to follow the law and 87 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: just likes to do crime and also golf the law's 88 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: law for all of us. 89 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of laws, they do like them when they 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: can do stupid things like, for reason, reversing bands on 91 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: toxic forever chemicals. 92 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: Yes, they are very into forever chemicals. Like Trump World 93 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: may not want to grow the economy, but they do 94 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: really like to pollute. And we'll remember this from Trump 95 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: one point zero when they put an oil and gas 96 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: lobbyist in charge of the EPA. The ruining the planet 97 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: is the point. And by the way, I love the 98 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: fact that when they put RFK Junior in charge of 99 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: our health and human services, they were like, yeah, he's 100 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: going to do all this good stuff with pollution. By 101 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: the way, what did he do? He just fired everyone 102 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: who believed in vaccines. Right, he didn't do any of 103 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: this stuff. The very few things he might have done 104 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: that one have been completely fucked up. Here we go. 105 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: Trump officials quietly moved to reverse bands on toxic forever 106 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: chemicals because toxic chemicals are your friend. EPA bids to 107 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: change chemical risk evaluations because honestly, do any of us 108 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: have enough plastic in our brains yet? Trump administration is 109 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: quietly carrying out a plan that aims to kill hundreds 110 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: of bands. I'm highly toxic forever chemicals and other dangerous compounds, 111 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: and consumer gifts goods, because really, honestly, how can we 112 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: live without more plastic and our brains. The bands, largely 113 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: at the state level, touch facets of daily life, prohibiting 114 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: everything from forembra chemicals and children's products. Those damn kids. 115 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: We had to get them to work in the factories asap, 116 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: to mercury and personal care products, to pfas in food 117 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: packaging and clothing. What's the worse it could happen? This 118 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: should be fine. If successful, the public would almost certainly 119 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: be exposed to much higher levels of chemicals linked to 120 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: a range of serious health issues such as cancer, hormone disruption, 121 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: liver disease, birth effects, and reproductive system damage. By the way, 122 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: the good news is that DOGE caught a lot of 123 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: NIH funding the National Institute of Health, so there's less 124 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: cancer research. So when you get that cancer, there's going 125 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: to be less treatments. Congratulations to all who celebrate. 126 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 2: So speaking of things that are all of a sudden 127 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: woke that shouldn't be woke, Mitch McConnell is calling out 128 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: Trump for hiring amateur isolationists at the Pentagon and firing 129 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: the NSA director after Laura Lumer told him to. 130 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: Turns out Mitch McConnell and Laura Lumer on the opposite 131 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: side of the issues, who could have seen it? Certainly 132 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: not I. So you remember earlier this week in season 133 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: two of the End of American Democracy, Laura Lumer, who 134 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: is from Florida and has had a lot of plastic 135 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: surgery but is shockingly only thirty two years old, got 136 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: back into the White House. She got her claws on 137 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: the dawn and she started explaining to him some of 138 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: her wacky worldview, and then she was able to fire 139 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: a number of national security professionals because she's Laura Lumer. Ergo, 140 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: why not? She fired a guy called Timothy haw a 141 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: for star general with thirty three years of experience and 142 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 1: intelligence by Laura Lumer has thirty one years of being 143 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: fabulous and getting filler. So without providing any explanation, he 144 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: was fired. Trump fired now six other National Security Council 145 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: officials after meeting with the conservative activists and social media 146 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: influencer Laura Lumer in the Oval Office. Lumer presented a 147 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: list of officials to Trump that she argued were not 148 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: loyal to the president. Oh yes, in case you're wondering, 149 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: it probably will get stupid or but it is very 150 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: hard to imagine at this moment. Rick Wilson is the 151 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: founder of the Lincoln Project and the host of the 152 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: Enemy's List, started to think. 153 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 8: Things out there right now, Molly, who. 154 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 9: Have always known this, who have from the beginning been 155 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 9: quite clear about this, who knew from the jump not 156 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 9: only that this was dumber than a bag I had here, 157 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 9: but also that it was also inevitable that the dumbest 158 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 9: president to ever hold the office would do the dumbest 159 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 9: possible thing. 160 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 4: And here we are. 161 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 8: It's a world of incredible stupidity. 162 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: Listen, man, I'm going to read you the axios. Axios 163 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: does this thing because breeding one hundred birds is too hard. 164 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: Why it matters? All all Bolds, The conservative think tank 165 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: says the error led to tariffs raised massively higher than 166 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: they should have been to achieve the goals the administration saw. 167 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: I mean, why it matters. It matters because they're crashing 168 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: the public markets. 169 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 8: It matters because they've incinerated ten trillion with a t 170 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 8: dollars of invested funds, and those funds weren't like there 171 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 8: just by the sovereign wealth fund of some other country. 172 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 8: A lot of those funds were little old ladies who 173 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 8: put their retirement in the market. A lot of those 174 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 8: funds were the local school board or the state pension 175 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 8: fund or whatever it is. Trump has gleefully incinerated. And 176 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 8: he said it this weekend. I don't care if I 177 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 8: crash economy. He doesn't care. He does not care. You 178 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 8: know why. First off, for him, the more chaos. I've 179 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 8: really been thinking about this a lot over the weekend. 180 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 8: The more chaos for him right now, the better. So 181 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 8: this week, when he announces he's going to invade Greenland 182 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 8: or whatever other unbelievably dumb thing comes out of his brain, 183 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 8: he's got more distractions waiting in the wings to have 184 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 8: America go, oh, that's interesting. We're not just doing this 185 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 8: the one or two stupid things. We're doing a lot 186 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 8: of the once and to distract people from the absolute 187 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 8: economic calamity that he has engineered for this country. 188 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: But I also think, and I want to add this 189 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: because I think it's important to remember how stupid everything is. 190 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: There's a guy called Josh Marshall. You and I are 191 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: friends with him. Sure, he is very, very smart. He 192 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: actually has a PhD. Like Matt Greenfield, my long suffering 193 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: spas and need a really good point, which is that 194 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: doge is actually not saving any money, and found it's 195 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: going to lose about happened trillion dollars this year, probably 196 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: more one hundred percent. 197 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 8: Just breaking things does not save money. Just causing chaos 198 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 8: does not save a single time. And what they're doing 199 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 8: right now is just breaking things and causing chaos. 200 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: Yes, and also perhaps enriching themselves as as is the 201 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: want of yes a mystry. 202 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 8: You know, I heard on Sunday that Donald Trump had 203 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 8: sold off two billion dollars to Shares, a true social 204 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 8: just before the announcement. Now I haven't run that whole 205 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 8: story down yet, but that would be the most on 206 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 8: brand thing for this corrupt m effort to do that 207 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 8: I could conceive, because why wouldn't he. 208 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: They pardoned all of these people who had done like 209 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: financial crimes, like the Silk Road guy. I mean, the 210 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: Silk Road guy also may or may not have hired hitman, 211 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: but like there were all sorts of other people. I mean, 212 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: for example, they brought over the Tate Brothers. I mean, 213 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, basically, the idea was like crimes against women 214 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: and financial crimes, that kind of stuff like fraud anything 215 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: white collery isn't really a crime. Also hiring a hit man. 216 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 8: You know, look, as long as you do it online, 217 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 8: it's shiny and modern and digital and not sordid and terrified. 218 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 8: We're in a moment of corruption in this country. I'm 219 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 8: going to use a Trumpian phrase now, the likes of 220 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 8: which we've never seen before. It is corrupt because as 221 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 8: a nation, we're letting it be. The US Senate right 222 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 8: now has shown some vague, elliptical stirrings of life in 223 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 8: the last few days. 224 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't like it when their guide crashes. 225 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 8: The economy suddenly. And look, most people in the Senate 226 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 8: who were in the Senate got to the Senate because 227 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 8: they like power and they like money, and they would 228 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 8: like more of the same. And I think that there 229 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 8: is a sense right now. You know, look they're all 230 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 8: saying it. Ted Cruz is out saying Donald Trump is 231 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 8: leading us towards an electoral political disaster. Let's help broken 232 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 8: clocks twice a day all that. 233 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: I like to call them lion Ted, But yes, continue. 234 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 8: You know that's got a ring to it. 235 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: I like it. 236 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, look, they see the writing on the wall. 237 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: What I'd actually like to talk to you about is 238 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: so Ted Cruz, there are a lot. There are a 239 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: couple other senators we're thinking of. I think we were 240 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: actually talking about this on We talked. 241 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 8: About this the other day. Yeah, you've got Cornyn, You've 242 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 8: got Tillis, You've got Susan Collins, who Trump has definitely 243 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 8: learned his economic lesson. There's a lot of people. Now. 244 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 8: The muttering is not McConnell. The muttering isn't just behind 245 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 8: the cloak of anonymity. Now where senators declined to comment 246 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 8: on the record to protect their lives insanity, they're not 247 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 8: out saying this is a dumb, bad, horrible, stupid idea. Stop. 248 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: But I also want to talk about something else, which is, yeah, 249 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: so you've got some Republicans going against crashing the market 250 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: for no reason. Then you also have this very interesting 251 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: phenomenon which we didn't talk about but we need to 252 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: talk about, which is the Koch Brothers. 253 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 8: Go on, tell me more about these mysterious fellows. 254 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: You may have one of them is actually dead. You 255 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 1: may have worked for them. In fact, we know you did. 256 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: So the New Civil Liberties Alliance which perhaps you've heard of, 257 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: a five oh one nonprofit public interest firm which their 258 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: interest is largely about serving the Koch Brothers. That crew 259 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: has launched a challenge, a legal challenge to one Donald 260 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: Trump for his tariffs on China. I know you will 261 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: be shocked to hear this, but they have decided that 262 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: they're going to sue Trump over these tariffs. So now, 263 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: this is the Citizens United crew. This is the worst 264 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: of the worst. This is the Koch Brothers crew. This 265 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: is these guys tend to win because they're so evil 266 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: and naughty discussed. 267 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 8: My question for you now is and I'm gonna I'm 268 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 8: going to go back and wheel back to unlesson. I 269 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 8: learned along time ago, and I've applied this to many 270 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 8: candidates when they say to me at the end of 271 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 8: the campaign, I. 272 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 10: Don't want to run that terrible negative ad. No, my 273 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 10: wife hates it, my kids hate it, and my friends 274 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 10: all hate it. At the country club. I can't shut 275 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 10: my face again if I run that terrible ad. I 276 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 10: know the polling says I have to do it, and 277 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 10: you ask them a simple question. All right, So next 278 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 10: Tuesday night, around eight o'clock at night after the election's over. 279 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 10: Do you want to be the scumbag or the honorable scumbag? 280 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 10: Putting the honorable scumbag ahead generally tends to be the 281 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 10: thing that gets people over the hump of doing what 282 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 10: has to be done. You may not like these guys, 283 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 10: you may find them uncomfortable. 284 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: As an ally the enemy of my enimey. 285 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 8: Yes, but they have a fairly long track record of 286 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 8: being able to deploy resources to whack bad guys in 287 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 8: their mind, whoever they're bad guys they're targeting at that moment. 288 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 8: They have a fairly good track record of that. And 289 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 8: in this world, you don't really want to like leave 290 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 8: a lot on the table. You don't really want to 291 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 8: leave a lot of questions on the table, like did 292 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 8: we do everything we could to fuck Trump up? Did 293 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 8: we do everything we could to kick his ass? If 294 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 8: it involves a center right coalition joining the other broad 295 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 8: coalition of people around the country to go and kick 296 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 8: Trump's ass, let's all go kick Trump's ass together. We 297 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 8: can fight later, we can we can shake all that 298 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 8: shit out later. Everybody can agree to agree to to, 299 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 8: you know, attack the monster while it's bringing down the village, 300 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 8: and then later we can figure out all of our 301 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 8: old beefs can come back and we can settle our 302 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 8: all all the family business later. 303 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, but I do think it is pretty 304 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: amazing that this crew receives financial support from entities affiliated 305 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: with Charles Coke and Leonard leon There is a weird 306 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: it's called capitalism, capitalism versus moronics. 307 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 8: No, here's the other part of it. There is a 308 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 8: degree to which inside even even the federalist society world, 309 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 8: there is a certain concern about rule of law that 310 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 8: is real. They have many flaws, but they have a 311 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 8: certain concern about rule law that they have not been 312 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 8: able to say publicly. Like everybody else trapped in the 313 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 8: Trump matrix. Once you're stuck in there, like you get 314 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 8: something good out of him once and you're like, okay, 315 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 8: well now all I have to do is pretend everything 316 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 8: he does is right. 317 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, for the rest of my life, for. 318 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 8: The rest of my life. And they're trapped in it. Look, 319 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 8: Scott Bessen wants to run the fuck away from Washington 320 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 8: and the Treasury right now because he's embarrassed and horrified, 321 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 8: but he can't. He's now trapped. He's like, I'll never 322 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 8: work again if I if I cross the sky. You know, 323 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 8: what do I do? 324 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: He's probably never going to work again either way. 325 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 8: I mean, that's still exactly. That's something they often fail 326 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 8: to realize, like that Wilson rule about everything Trump touches 327 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 8: and dies. Yeah, that's a real thing. 328 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 4: Guys. 329 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: Well, let's ask Rudy Julian how it's going. 330 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 8: Well, he was at least on Wall Street through the 331 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 8: day with Chris Ruddy with the NEWSMA. 332 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: So on Friday when the market dropped, I don't know, 333 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred points, twelve hundred points that some jillion points, yes, 334 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: quite lost, you know whatever. Millions of dollars just evaporate, 335 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: atro trillions of des with your te trillions of dollars evaporated. 336 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: The people who raging the opening bell were Newsmax, just 337 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: ready in Newsmax. 338 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 4: Yep. 339 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 8: Some of the follow on propagandists to the Rupert era 340 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 8: for those that you can find Rupert Murdoch to Middle 341 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 8: of the Road and the Fox products to restrained his 342 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 8: praise of drup Right, there's Newsmax. 343 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 6: You know. 344 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: I like to think of it as Fox without the 345 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: good production values. 346 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 8: I like to think of it about as Fox without 347 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 8: the restraint in the dignity yes. 348 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: Well, what I like about Newsmax is that Greg Kelly's 349 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: son has a program on there. 350 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 8: Oh my god, that guy is a truly agreedious grunting 351 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 8: more on the best. 352 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: So let's just talk about this. We have this massive 353 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: Trump tariff based on massive Eric conservative think tank says 354 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: tomorrow the market's open. Trump has been golfing all weekend. 355 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 8: We don't have to saw it with a Saudi murder 356 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 8: murder regime. 357 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: Right, It's called the Live Yes golf tournament. A lot 358 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: of stuff has happened, none of them. 359 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 8: Whats you buy Striker? Striker industrial medical tool is perfect 360 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 8: for dismembering dissidents. 361 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's going on. I mean, does the market 362 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: just keep creating? What do you think what. 363 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 8: Has happened over the weekend to change anything? 364 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: I mean, does eventually Susie Wilds go like, come on, man. 365 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 8: No, where's what I actually I think is going to happen. 366 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 8: We're going to end up with a real blood bath 367 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 8: for about another week to ten days. 368 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: Wow, that's going to be millions, billions, trillions, zillions. 369 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 8: Yes, at that point, John Thune and Grinder Grinder Johnson 370 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 8: are going to go down to the White House and 371 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 8: they're going to say, sir grinder John, We're about to 372 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 8: lose both houses spectacularly. We're about to lose fifty seats 373 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 8: in the House and fifteen seats in the Senate. We're 374 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 8: about to lose every governor's race. We're about to lose 375 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 8: state legislatures. We're about to get blown the fuck out. Yeah, 376 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 8: so you either stop this shit right now or it's 377 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 8: on your head. We love you, we worship you, and 378 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 8: yet you have done something profoundly stupid. 379 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: And then what do you think happened? 380 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 8: Look, he so dug in Molly on Sunday afternoon, the 381 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 8: overnight action on the on the markets, you're going to 382 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 8: see another drop on the NASDAK of six percent, another 383 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 8: drop on the S and P of six point five percent, 384 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 8: another drop on the Dow Jones of five point five percent, 385 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 8: the Russell four point three percent. The only index that's 386 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 8: going up right now is the VIX, which is the 387 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 8: uncertainty and fear index, and that's up fiftyo point nine 388 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 8: to three percent. This weekend is a bad. 389 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: Dayo Oh that who celebrate? You think he's just going 390 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: to at some point. 391 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 8: I think at some point they're going to say to him, sir, sir, 392 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 8: they came to be in said here, we have to 393 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 8: pass a bill that says your tariffs are bullshit, and 394 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 8: Trump will veto it and they'll have to override it, 395 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 8: and we're going to go into this long, ugly grind 396 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 8: of I think very great hostility between Trump and his 397 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 8: own base, or Trump and his own allies in Congress, 398 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 8: and I'm here for it. He has already done a 399 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 8: phenomenal job of tainting the rest of of his second term. 400 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: I mean, this is like such a weird moment, right, 401 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: because the question really for Trump's first administration, Democrats were 402 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: able to sort of prevent a lot of the carnage, right, 403 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: and Republicans would behind the scenes be like, yeah, yeah, 404 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: he's a total lunatic. But then they would be able 405 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: to pretend that they agreed with everything, right because they 406 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: didn't want to get death threats. Now we are in 407 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: a moment where it's very likely, I think quite likely 408 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: that there's no one else to sort of tell Trump no, 409 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: and that unless that unless Johnson and Soon do it, 410 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: there's no one else to do it. 411 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 8: There's no one else to do it. No one in 412 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 8: this White House is going to sacrifice themself to save 413 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 8: Trump or to try to convince Trump that he's wrong. 414 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 8: They just they are not going to do it. These 415 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 8: are not brave people. Everybody in that in the White 416 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 8: House understands the rules. If you criticize Trump, even in private, 417 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 8: even amongst your colleagues, you could be abstinent. You could 418 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 8: be thrown off the island in a matter of minutes. 419 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 8: That is a superpower for authoritarians. When you have the 420 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 8: Saddam problem. You know, never be the first guy in 421 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 8: the room to stop clapping when he's talking, Never ever 422 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 8: ever disagree with whatever his theory of whatever the case 423 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 8: of the day is. You can't. It's a really scary universe. 424 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: So you think it's just going to have to bad 425 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: not for our publicans to say something before. 426 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, but by the time we get there later in 427 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 8: this week, we will have basically killed off the greatest 428 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 8: economic boom in modern history. Everything that was going on, 429 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 8: for all the critiques of Joe Biden in the post 430 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 8: COVID era, the things he did to stabilize the financial markets, 431 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 8: which made it possible for American jobs and investment to 432 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 8: come back after COVID have all, it's all been squandered. 433 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 8: It's all been destroyed, it's all been blown out, and 434 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 8: there's nothing. There's nothing ahead right now for American consumers 435 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 8: and for American voters and for American workers. But pain 436 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 8: and chaos and fear and confusion, and this idea that, oh, well, 437 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 8: the era of cheap stuff is over and we're just 438 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 8: going to instantly make it all here in America. That's 439 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 8: a theory that it's what I call the toilet brush theory. 440 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 8: You know, you can go to Walmart right now by 441 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 8: a toilet brush for ninety five cents. Okay, and maybe 442 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 8: we need an American toilet brush industry, but right now 443 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 8: in America, we don't have factories to make toilet brushes 444 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 8: and it's going to take five years to build them. 445 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 8: This is not a pretty picture for consumers in this country. 446 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 8: And the Trump folks just don't They understand it, but 447 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 8: they just don't care. 448 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: Thanks, Rick Wilson, anytime, talk to you soon. Kat Abu 449 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: Gazala is a candidate for Congress in Illinois's ninth district. 450 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: Welcome too fast politics. 451 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 7: Kat Thanks for having me, Mollie. 452 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: So you're doing it. You are doing something that I 453 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: think we're going to see a lot of people do 454 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: over the next couple years or months because of fucking 455 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: chaos that the politicians who are ruining our country are doing. 456 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: So let's talk about it. You're running for Congress. 457 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 6: I am running for Congress here in Illinois ninth District. 458 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: I know why, but tell our listeners why. 459 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 6: I got sick of waiting around for Democrats to do something. 460 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 6: You at the inauguration, there were so many people sitting 461 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 6: behind him looking, you know, very somber or whatever, but 462 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 6: it's like this is this man is a fascist. You 463 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 6: have to do more than just be upset and write letters, 464 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 6: especially when you have power. And like, when we stand up, 465 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 6: no one's there for us. We don't get the fancy lawyers, 466 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 6: we don't get the photo ops, we don't get police 467 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 6: scared to touch us. But like you guys, you guys 468 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 6: have that, and you're still not standing up. You're not 469 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 6: even like with the cr You're just rolling over on votes, 470 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 6: parliamentary procedure. This was supposed to be the thing you 471 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 6: guys like to do. So I got sick of waiting 472 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 6: around for someone else to do some things. I'm trying 473 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 6: to run a campaign and be a type of person 474 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 6: that I would like to see in our government. 475 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about this because there are a lot 476 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: of people in Congress right now who are in Congress 477 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: because they can't get a better job. 478 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, and the rest of us, we don't do our jobs, 479 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 6: we get fired. Why don't they bullshit? 480 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: So tell me, are you primarying someone? What is your district? Like, 481 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: what is the race? 482 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 6: So I'm running in Illinois ninth district, which is northern Chicago, 483 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 6: the northern suburbs. Illinois lost a seat in redistricting in 484 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, so it's jerrymandered to go out west, 485 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 6: which was not that way beforehand. It's currently represented by Janshikowski, 486 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 6: who has been in this position since nineteen ninety eight. 487 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 6: There has not been a competitive primary since that was 488 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 6: before I was born. This district has been represented by 489 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 6: two people since nineteen sixty five. Janshikowski is historically one 490 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 6: of the most progressive members of Congress. Like I keep 491 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 6: telling people, I'm like, this is not some referendum on her. Yes, 492 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 6: she's eighty, but she's done a lot of great work. 493 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 6: You know, she stood against the Iraq War when it happened. Yeah, 494 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 6: but obviously what the Democratic Party is doing isn't working, 495 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 6: and so I am trying something different, and I think 496 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 6: that voters deserve another option. I talked to a lot 497 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 6: of shit last year about how Democrats are terrified a criticism, 498 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 6: terrified of primaries, terrified of like giving people choice, which 499 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 6: I think is essential to democracy. 500 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 7: So I'm just trying to lifk by them about. 501 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: I think that's a good point. It's not that we're 502 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: not incredibly grateful to these women and men who are octagenarians. 503 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: We are so grateful. I think about Dick Durbin, who 504 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: is eighty years old and thinking about whether or not 505 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: he's from Illinois. He wants to run for another six 506 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: year term, which would get him to eighty eight when 507 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: he finished his term. The question is not if we 508 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: don't love these people, respect them, and are so grateful 509 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: for their service. The question is, if you're eighty years old, 510 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: should you be running for reelection. I mean, there are 511 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: certainly people like Nancy Pelosi, who at eighty four continues 512 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: to be a firecracker, But there are people in their eighties. 513 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: And I do think that we look at this election 514 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: cycle and there's a reason that Democrats. Democrats lost, and 515 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: it was Joe Biden's age. 516 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean you have, like you said, you have 517 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 6: Nancy Pelosi who is very with it and is still 518 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 6: trying to run things her way. I think when people 519 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 6: here eighty years old, they automatically jumped to like this 520 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 6: idea of like mental faculties or some of the concerns 521 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 6: we had with Joe Biden. But I think that the 522 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 6: main issue I have because it's a different person to person. 523 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 6: There's just like no human experience is the same. My 524 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 6: big concern though, is that a lot of people in Congress, 525 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 6: not just eighty year olds. The average age of Congress 526 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 6: is fifty eight. The average American is thirty eight. There 527 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 6: are just experiences that most of our lawmakers have never experienced. 528 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 6: For example, they didn grew up with mass shooter drills. 529 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 6: They've owned a home for a long time. You know, 530 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 6: I don't have health insurance right now. Most if not all, 531 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 6: of our Congress does not worry about at of pocket 532 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 6: costs when they go to the hospital. Half of Congress 533 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 6: are millionaires. This isn't to say like it's their fault 534 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 6: that they don't. 535 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 11: Know what it's like to grow up with school shooter drills, 536 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 11: but it is a very real and like significant experience 537 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 11: for a huge portion of current voters that just isn't represented, 538 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 11: and how we make our legislation in our priorities. 539 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good point, and I would 540 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: say at this moment, Democrats need to focus on winning. 541 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: You know, Trump is an authoritarian. He has this authoritarian 542 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: vision for the country. Republicans are bought in on this 543 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: authoritarian vision for the country. One of the things we 544 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: saw in the Biden administration was that people like Merit 545 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: Garland and Joe Biden, I think there was a lack 546 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: of imagination there. I don't think they realized that a 547 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: person could run for president and blow through all those guardrails. Now, 548 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: this may be the sort of shot that America has 549 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: this next election and the election after it to beat 550 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: back authoritarianism, right, to put in place the kind of 551 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: guardrails legislatively that need to happen in order for us 552 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: to have a really working democracy that represents to everyone 553 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: and that cannot be hijacked by one person. In that case, 554 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: we need people with fresh ideas who are willing to 555 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: not stand on ceremony. So talk to me about how 556 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: you would do that. 557 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 6: Yes, So I think there are like two big things 558 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 6: that I feel I am positioned for. I keep getting 559 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 6: called influencer, and like, I've never chosen that label. It's fine, 560 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 6: but I mean, you know, my background is like original 561 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 6: reporting and analysis. 562 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: But it is a good point though, that one of 563 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: the other reasons Joe Biden lost was because he could 564 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: not transmit what he did in office. The Democrats have 565 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: a real communication problem when the guy who wants to 566 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: cut taxes for billionaires is the populist candidate. 567 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 6: Right Like last year, I mean, I among many many 568 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 6: others were like, please listen to us, like we need 569 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 6: like it's not even progressive, it's just common sense if 570 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 6: we deserve to be able to live without everything sapping 571 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 6: our money and our souls dry. My campaign has one 572 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 6: issue on our issues page that says it's just called 573 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 6: basic existence, and it's the idea that you should be able 574 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 6: to afford housing, healthcare, and groceries with money left over. 575 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 6: That's just like a very basic idea. But I've already 576 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 6: had people tell me this is unrealistic. I think you're 577 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 6: right about just kind of this neutered approach Democrats have 578 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 6: been taking. We need some FDR type governance here. I 579 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 6: mean this was a man that said, I don't care 580 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 6: what these company that like. Honestly, the Great Depression, it 581 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 6: almost seems like gazillionaires are trying to pressure me in 582 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 6: I'm giving people social security, We are making this happen, 583 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 6: we are giving people jobs. And instead we had Democrats 584 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 6: who let voting rights legislation go by the wayside because 585 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 6: well it wasn't bipartisan enough. We couldn't get we couldn't 586 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 6: get jo a mansion pressured enough. And it's like, are 587 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 6: you kidding me? We need some clause, especially when it's 588 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 6: fighting authoritarianism, this sitting back and letting as many I mean, 589 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 6: you know my background, but for people who don't, my 590 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 6: background is I have been following the far right for 591 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 6: my whole career. 592 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 7: I grew up as a. 593 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 6: Republican and now I'm just kind of fighting those exact 594 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 6: narratives that I understand the workings behind many conservative people's 595 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 6: brains and like how they're viewing the world and the 596 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 6: way that they're just going about this of like let's 597 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 6: see how many people will get hurt and then they'll 598 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 6: be sick of Republicans and then they'll vote for us. 599 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 6: In twenty twenty six it's not just morally wrong, but 600 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 6: it's also a shitty electoral strategy. If you just let 601 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 6: Trump eliminate all guardrails, I don't think there's any guarantee 602 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 6: for a fair twenty twenty eight election. But if you 603 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 6: just like hands off approach, what the hell is he 604 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 6: going to do before the midterms. I mean, he already 605 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 6: took away a UN ambassador slot because he was like, 606 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 6: we're in deep shit. This is not going to be pretty, 607 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 6: and we need people that can handle that instead of 608 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 6: trying to I think that there's a way, like people 609 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 6: can debate approaches to certain things, but we all need 610 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 6: to agree on a very basic level of like human 611 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 6: rights and human dignity and values. And right now, Democrats 612 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 6: keep saying we need to move closer to the center, 613 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 6: but what they really mean is we need to go 614 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 6: farther to the right, and I think that's bullshit. 615 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: One of the things that I think you can do, 616 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: which is important as commune because you have a platform. 617 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: One of the mistakes I thought we saw was that 618 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: Democrats had an opportunity to elevate AOC as the ranking 619 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: member of oversight, and instead they elevated Jerry Connolly. Now 620 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: AOC has millions of followers, and Jerry Connolly has hundreds 621 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: of followers. Now again, followers are not the metric. But 622 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: if you need to communicate and you're a party with 623 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: the communications problem, wouldn't that be a good way to start. 624 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 7: One hundred percent? 625 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 6: Any of the tout of the DNC is like the 626 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 6: creator's convention, is that the creator election. And I was 627 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 6: one of those credentialed creators. I was the only Palestinian one. 628 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 6: And unless you were following a party line, and I 629 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 6: came to it with a more like reporting type perspective, 630 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 6: but unless you were following a direct party line, you 631 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 6: got no access. And the unwillingness to even engage with 632 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 6: like another point of view is part of the And 633 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 6: they're such shitty communicators because Democrats, look are democratic leadership 634 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 6: right now often looks at social media as something like 635 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 6: you plug in this meme and then you get this outcome, 636 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 6: and that's not how social media works, just like how 637 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 6: in a conversation, that's not how existence works. My background 638 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 6: is literally explaining things, making video explainers. I have an 639 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 6: hour long explainer of white Christian nationalism that was like 640 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 6: my favorite video I made last year and go watch 641 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 6: if you have it. I think that talking to people 642 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 6: clearly not in a condescending fashion, and just really like 643 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 6: our campaign is focused on our ground game, but we 644 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 6: were able to raise four hundred thousand dollars in eight 645 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 6: days because we connect with people online. My video explaining 646 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 6: the bullshit between behind like FBC deadlines and when you 647 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 6: get those texts, they're like, we need your donation before midnight. 648 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 6: Talking about the behind the scenes aspect of that has 649 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 6: gotten almost a unanimous positive response because people are just 650 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 6: desperate for actual communication and transparency and unless Democratic Party 651 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 6: does that, then they're going to have to deal with 652 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 6: more people like me trying to primary their candidates. 653 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: But also, don't you think like one of the lessons 654 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: from twenty twenty four is that primaries are actually good. 655 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, this shouldn't even been a lesson. This should just 656 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 7: be like common knowledge. 657 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,479 Speaker 1: If there had been a real primary process, it would 658 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: have helped sharpen the message of whoever would have been 659 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: the nominee. One of the things that happened was on 660 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: election day you saw people googling who was on the ticket? 661 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: Is Joe Biden still on the ticket? So clearly not 662 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: everyone was watching the Democratic National Convention or anyone or anyone. 663 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 7: I mean, I wasn't. 664 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 6: I was sitting outside, sleeping on the concrete because they 665 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 6: discriminated against my ethnicity. They were like, we can't have 666 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 6: a Palestinian speaker. 667 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: Wait, they didn't let you in. 668 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 7: No, I was there. 669 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 6: I was at the sit in for when they wouldn't 670 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 6: allow a Palestinian speaker. And then I couldn't go out 671 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 6: and get my credentials because we were at the sit in, 672 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 6: and so I couldn't go back inside the next day. 673 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 7: And yeah, anyways, yeah, but I totally agree. 674 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 6: I mean, I am telling people and like, if you've 675 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 6: been waiting in line for the incumbent to retire in 676 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 6: this district, I have no idea if Jan's gonna run 677 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 6: or if she's going to retire, but if you've been 678 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 6: waiting in line to run for this position, do it. 679 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 6: Cut in line. Let's get this primary on. If I 680 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 6: am truly the best candidate, if what I say resonates 681 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 6: with voters, if my strategy is the best strategy, then 682 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 6: I'll win. 683 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 7: And if not, maybe I don't raise the money. 684 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 6: Maybe my ideas of like trying this on the ground, 685 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 6: mutual aid direct action stuff isn't the best idea. 686 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 7: I mean, I think it's a great idea. 687 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 6: I think it's also good because win or lose, we 688 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 6: don't waste your money. But no matter what, you're at 689 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 6: least giving voters options and everyone has to bring their 690 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 6: a game. And if you really care about democracy, shouldn't 691 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 6: you want that? 692 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: No? I now, I mean that, And I think that's 693 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: a real question. Shouldn't we want the best people being 694 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: in their representing party? Right? 695 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 7: We shouldn't just annoy people, right? 696 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: So let's for a minute game out what your campaign 697 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: looks like. So you raise four hundred thousand dollars, you 698 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: are on the ground talking to people. What is your 699 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: sort of day to day like For people who are 700 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: watching this and thinking maybe they want to run for converbs. 701 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, and I would love that. Please email us let 702 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 6: us know if we can help. We're planning on like 703 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 6: a zoom meeting sometime this month to just kind of 704 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 6: like we have such a big response from people wanting 705 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 6: to run for office that we need to start big 706 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 6: and then see who really wants to follow through with it. 707 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 6: But yeah, for me, what we're trying is kind of 708 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 6: completely new. I think that there is so much waste 709 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 6: behind campaigns, and I've asked why can't we do it 710 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 6: this way or this play I'm always told, well, this 711 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 6: is how you do it. That won't work. I ask, 712 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 6: you know, did people try it? And then I'm told no, 713 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 6: and so I am trying it. Basically, what we want 714 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 6: is to invest back in the community directly, and that's 715 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 6: going to be very relevant right now, especially as trumb 716 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 6: creates all of these gaps in relief. So this means, 717 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 6: for example, our kickoff event instead of we want every 718 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 6: event to be accessible in no matter your income. So 719 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 6: instead of paying like five hundred dollars for a plate, 720 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 6: you just had to bring in a box of pads 721 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 6: or tampons which were donated to Chicago's Period Collective. And 722 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 6: we counted it all up and we got over fifty 723 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 6: six hundred tampons and pads which will be donated to 724 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 6: people who can't afford them. That's the type of stuff 725 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 6: we want to keep doing. This is food bank support, 726 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 6: clothing exchanges, school supplies drives, diaper drives, pet adoption events, 727 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 6: recreational things. I actually got some embroidery kits that I 728 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 6: commissioned that have like you know, campaign slogans on them 729 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 6: and stuff, because I started a women's club when I 730 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 6: moved here in Chicago, and I wanted to bring that 731 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 6: to the campaign trail. So those are going to be 732 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 6: free to attend, but just with a similar type of 733 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 6: donation structure, something easy, sheep, but also it can help 734 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 6: you know that you're doing good. We want to cut 735 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 6: checks for local organizations. If you are in this area 736 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 6: and you need help, let us know we want to 737 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 6: help you. I just I think that that's a better 738 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 6: way to use money rather than just a shit ton 739 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 6: of ads and like a bunch of consultants and a 740 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 6: bunch of very expensive events. And you know this district, 741 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 6: especially since it's gone west, we had people drive all 742 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 6: the way to our Kikoff event to say that they 743 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 6: hadn't talked to the representative ever. There was never an 744 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 6: event out there that they had gone to or heard about. 745 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 6: So like tomorrow, for the big fifty to fifty one 746 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 6: protests and the hands off type events, we're going to 747 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 6: one out in Algonquin. We're trying to make this the 748 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 6: most accessible campaign in history. That means that we're going 749 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,240 Speaker 6: to help a lot of people, and I'm very excited about. 750 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: It you're talking to voters, do voters seem angry to you? 751 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: Because they seem anger in the marri. 752 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 7: Voters are livid, They're so mad. 753 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 6: I've never seen ignormies like we are always in politics, 754 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 6: you and me Mali, like our profession, like we're tuned 755 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 6: into everything that's happening. I have never seen people that, 756 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 6: you know, they hear the news, but they actually have 757 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 6: lives unlike us. This mad about like specific political things 758 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 6: in my life, even during COVID, I've never seen this. 759 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 6: I also, I was worried because you know, I'm new 760 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 6: to the area and I'm also kind of coming out 761 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 6: of nowhere at especially being framed as like an influencer 762 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 6: or whatever. I was worried that people not online would 763 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 6: not know who you are, no, just be very unwilling 764 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 6: to talk or immediately discount me. But that hasn't been 765 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 6: the case at all, even if they haven't heard about 766 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 6: the campaign. If I say I'm running for Congress, I 767 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 6: hate what Democrats are doing, and then I ask, you know, 768 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 6: what do you wish they were doing? The response has 769 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 6: been unanimously positive, like very excited. You may be skeptical, 770 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 6: which I think is great. I think you should be 771 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 6: skeptical of anyone asking for power. You should even if 772 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 6: you like me, you should want to hold me accountable. 773 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 6: But like the in real life voters I met, I 774 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 6: was just the federal workers rally over by the VA 775 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 6: at the Level Healthcare Center, and just a lot of 776 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 6: very angry but determined people that we're just excited to 777 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 6: even think about the possibility of other people tried to 778 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,760 Speaker 6: come in and push for something better. 779 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, Kat, thanks for having me. Molly, No no, 780 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: Rick Wilson. 781 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 8: Hey, Molly, I've got a moment of fucker here. That 782 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 8: is one of those moments of fuckery that's actually a 783 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 8: serious and horrible kind of thing. A few days ago, 784 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,240 Speaker 8: four American Army soldiers lost their lives in an accident 785 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 8: in Lithuania. They were there serving with our NATO allies 786 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 8: and they were killed. Now, when American soldiers are killed abroad, 787 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 8: they are treated with enormous dignity and respect. They are 788 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 8: flown back on special Air Force aircraft to Andrews Air 789 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 8: Force Pace. I have been to one of these in 790 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 8: the past, a couple of them actually, and it is 791 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 8: a very very wrenching moment when these families see their 792 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 8: kids come off the plane and know that they're not 793 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,719 Speaker 8: going to have a father or a brother or a 794 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 8: son ever again. And presidents go to the airport. That'll 795 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 8: make a big deal out of it. Obama did it, 796 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 8: Bush did it, Bregan did it, Carter did it. Clinton 797 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 8: did it. They go to Andrews quietly, small package nighttime, 798 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 8: and they greet those families. They commiserate with those families 799 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 8: for a few minutes, and they tell them about the 800 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 8: love their country had for their sons or daughters. And 801 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 8: this weekend, Donald Try, who one time criticized Joe Biden 802 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 8: for allegedly looking at his watch during one of these ceremonies, 803 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 8: is golfing with a bunch of fucking Saudi Arabian murderers 804 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 8: down in Jupiter. He's golfing. He's been golfing all weekend. 805 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 8: This is not one of my funny ones. I'm sorry 806 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,280 Speaker 8: to say. This is not one of my hilarious ones. 807 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 8: This is a real sign of the contempt that this 808 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 8: motherfucker has for our troops, and it makes me sick. 809 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 1: Rick Wilson, thank you for joining us anytime. 810 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 8: Talk you later, by ye. 811 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in 812 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: every Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday to hear the best 813 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: minds and politics make sense of all this chaos. If 814 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: you enjoy this podcast, please send it to a friend 815 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: and keep the conversation going. Thanks for listening.