1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 2: I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobel 3 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Hey, we're with you here. 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 2: Every day from one to four o'clock. You be there, 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: whether it's on the radio, streaming. If you miss it all, 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: that's what the podcast is for. After four o'clock, it 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: gets released John Cobelt' show on demand and you pick 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: up what you miss. Well, hour one is up already, 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: how about that? Well, how about hour two? Working on 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: our one is up, hour two is coming. Let's now 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: go to Don Mahollick. He had him on many times 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: ABC News Law Enforcement contributor, and he's retired senior Secret 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: Service agent, and we're going to talk about how this 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: Nancy Guthrie case and the deadline for paying the ransom 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: allegedly is in less than an hour at four o'clock 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: Pacific time. This whole case doesn't follow any normal pattern 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: of a kidnapping that I can remember, and I see 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: other crime experts and it FBI agents say the same thing. 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: Let's talk to Don. How are you good, John? I'm good. 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: The whole world seems to be baffled by the arc 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: of this story because there's never any new details to 22 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: the story. I don't know what you've heard and what 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: you've know because this stuff changes. But we still don't 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: know who's asking for the money, if they're real, where 25 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: they are, if Nancy Guthrie is in their possession, if 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: she's alive or dead. I don't know anything. I mean, 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: are they really going to pay six million dollars in 28 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: bitcoin to a non existent entity that hasn't provided proof 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: of life? 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: And that's the question right now, because you're right, this 31 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: thing hasn't followed any typical kidnapping patterns. Most kidnappers, number one, 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: want to have their direct line of communications if they 33 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: want to get paid. If it's sort of kidnapping for money, 34 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: they want to get paid, and the fact that they 35 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: haven't established that is questionable. In addition to that, the 36 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: three notes or the two notes that have come out 37 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: so far have been still unverified by the fact it's 38 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: still not being able to document that these are authentic notes, 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: which is of course another concerning thing. Also, why would 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: you send the notes to local media outlets in TMZ 41 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: in Tucson versus sending it to the family or in 42 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: a case of Savannah, who's a public person to NBC Universal, 43 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: a major network who had deep pockets if the goal is. 44 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: To get paid. 45 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: And also, you know, most kidnappers want to negotiating the 46 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: dark they want, don't want, they don't want all of 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: law enforcement tracking, and they want to get away with it. 48 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: In this case, not only do they have all of 49 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: law enforcement looking at them, they got the pres in 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: the United States making proclamations about the case. So it 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: is absolutely the opposite of how a normal or a 52 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 1: typical kidnapping case is handled. And you know, I'm sure 53 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: the lawforce of officers are doing their best, but it 54 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: just seems like it's something nobody's ever seen before. 55 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: What kind of evidence should they be looking at right 56 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: now that they probably are looking at And where are 57 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: they trying to find the clues. 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: While they're you know, because of the notes, they're trying 59 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: to do the digital dive into the digital world dark web, 60 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: you know, social media, that kind of thing, to try 61 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: to see if there are any digital traits, don'tybody's talking 62 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: about are online somewhere, Maybe somebody sends a text or 63 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: something they can that they can help identify. In addition 64 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: to try and identify the notes, they're also trying to 65 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: look at all the physical evidence, which is why they've 66 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: been at the house, both our house and the sisters 67 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: has lately trying to see if there's anything that they 68 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: can find that will help them find a thread that 69 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: they can pull on to lead them to a resolution 70 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: for the case. And they're also and this is the biggest. 71 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: Thing they have to do, is they're probably. 72 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: Taking everybody in her orbit, friends, families, people she went 73 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: to church with, the uber driver, people worked at the house, 74 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: and they have to basically go back, you know, if 75 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: not days, weeks and potentially months and rebuild these people's 76 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: wives and then also check their stories and verify their 77 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: stories so they can document where they were leading up 78 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: to this event, where they were the night of the event, 79 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: and if their stories hold water, if they're concrete or not, 80 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: And then that they could use to start identifying suspects 81 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: if they start plucking holes and stories or they find 82 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: somebody who potentially had a mode of you know, needed 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: money or whatever. That's the biggest challenge for them to do. 84 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: They have the challenges trying to get video because it 85 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: seems like the video is the video in this neighborhood 86 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: or going in and out of this neighborhood seemed to 87 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: be difficult for them to get a hold of. 88 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 2: Ah. Does it seem like maybe that the police have 89 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: a lot of information and they're just not sharing it 90 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: for obvious reasons. Are they're really bounding around in the dark, 91 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 2: which is the way they're presenting themselves. 92 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: No, I don't think. I think they're doing a lot 93 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: of work, and I think because they're doing a lot 94 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: of work, they're not doing a lot of talking. And 95 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: I remind people of the case up in Montana with 96 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: the six students that were killed. For a while, everybody 97 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: was questioning what the cops were doing up in Montana. 98 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: It turns out they were hot on a suspects trail 99 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: and they ended up arresting him, but they had they 100 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: didn't say a lot during the investigation, so this could 101 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: very well be that that case. The only thing that 102 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: of course makes people question and brings people pause is 103 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: the videos Savannah and her brother and sister are putting out. 104 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: Went from being one where she was allegedly answering the 105 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: note asking for proof of life, it was second video 106 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: where she was no longer asking for proof of life, 107 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: she was saying, they're going to pay was sounded more desperate, 108 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: and then today's video was basically. 109 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 3: Hey, we haven't heard from you. We're ready to pay. 110 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 3: What are you going to reach out to us? Maybe, 111 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: which is even more desperate. 112 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: But maybe the people sending the rents don't exist. Maybe 113 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: it was just pranksters, just a hoax. 114 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: Well, well, and that's true too, John, because they locked 115 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: up a guy out in your neck of the woods 116 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: in California for siting not one of these, but a 117 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: different hoax ransom note. So the possibility that these are 118 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: hoax notes is real, and that's why the FBI is 119 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: trying to verify the authenticity of the notes, which you know, 120 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: we haven't been told. If they haven't, haven't. 121 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: Well, if they If the motivation is not to make money, 122 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: if the motivation is not to get a platform for 123 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: your crazy political views, what's the point of this. What 124 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: are you doing with an old sick woman who can 125 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 2: barely walk? What are they doing with her? Unless she's dead? 126 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: And then why would they have killed her to begin with? 127 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: So you come down to personal motives. It might be 128 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: if it's a kidnapping for a personal reason, vendebt or whatever. 129 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: You have those situations which usually are more crime oriented 130 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: criminal types. You know, somebody kidnaps another criminals whatever as 131 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 1: a payback or something. So there's that potential. But the 132 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: other potential is, and this question keeps getting asked, is 133 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: was this a crime another kind of crime, robbery, break 134 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: in home invasions, something that went bad and then. 135 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: The people involved wanted. 136 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: To cover what happened, and they removed her in order 137 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: to cover up whatever happened in the house. 138 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: The only two pieces, of. 139 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Course that sort of counter that is, whoever was there 140 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: spent forty one minutes in the house by the timeline 141 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: we have, which is a lot of time to spend 142 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: in a house, which means they were probably comfortable and 143 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: knew the house. And the other point is, you know, 144 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: most people see a ring doorbell, they figure they're getting recorded. 145 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: And the fact that they ripped a ring doorbell off 146 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: most people also know a ring doorbell records in a cloud, 147 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't record home. But the fact that they ripped 148 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: it off and didn't seem to have a character was 149 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: there also points more to somebody that may have been 150 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: familiar with her and her. 151 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: Property, right, and there's no video from that ring camera, 152 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: we can't. 153 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: No she said they say, they say this, which I 154 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: find questionable too, that the subscription ran out so the camera. 155 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: Wasn't recording anymore. 156 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: But like that's another clue that the investigators are probably 157 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: running down, is you know who is responsible for the subscriptions? 158 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: Why did it run out? When did it run out? 159 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: You know, did it run out you know conveniently that 160 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: day or the day before, or has it or did 161 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: it you know, the subscription end, you know, a month ago, 162 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: and you know Grandma just didn't get a chance to 163 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: pay the bill or something, which you find also in 164 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: this day and aid with auto pay with credit cards 165 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: you find strange too. 166 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, everything's strange about this one. It's a strange case, John, 167 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: No recognizable pattern. All right, Thank you very much, Donald, 168 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: talk again, Don Mahallic, ABC. 169 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: News, Thanks John, Thanks care of okay, and. 170 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: When we come back, do you know that they're trying 171 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 2: to pass a bill. Newsom is trying to get a 172 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: bill passed to make secret all the high speed rail 173 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: records that would make the government look bad. I'm not 174 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: making this up. And you're going to hear an interview 175 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 2: that was done by Ashley Zavala up in northern California 176 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: with a assembly Woman Alexandra Mercido, and she's gonna explain. 177 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 2: Give you an example, why now Newsom and the Democrats 178 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: want to cover up all the sins of high speed rail. 179 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: We'll explain. 180 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 181 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: six forty. 182 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: High speed rail, seventeen billion dollars over eighteen years. No rail, 183 00:09:54,040 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: no trains, no nothing. You know this now, Gavin Newsom 184 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: and other Assembly members want to pass a bill that 185 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: would keep high speed rail records confidential. Yes, it's Assembly 186 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: Bill sixteen oh eight, written by Lorie Wilson, the Assembly 187 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: Transportation Committee chairwoman. And another similar bill has been proposed 188 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: by Gavin Newsom's office. So there's two bills. They're nearly identical. 189 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: And this would prohibit the release of records that officials 190 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: believe would reveal weaknesses that could harm the state if publicized. 191 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: There actually is an Inspector General of the High Speed 192 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: Rail Authority, which is supposed to audit, monitor and make 193 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: policy recommendations. Oh yeah, whoever that is is doing a 194 00:10:54,280 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: great job. That person's been around for four years. And 195 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 2: this bill would shield the office from public records requests 196 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: for sensitive data such as details of fraud. Here is 197 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: an interview CASERA Channel three reporter Ashley Zavalla talked with 198 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: a California assembly Woman, Alexandra Messdo, who has an example 199 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: about the kind of confidential details that would be hidden 200 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: if this law passes. 201 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 5: This proposal that's coming from the Office of the Inspector 202 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 5: General that is independent but oversees the high speed Rail 203 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 5: Authority seeking to make some records secret if they reveal 204 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 5: weaknesses that could harm the state in essence, do you 205 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,239 Speaker 5: have a sense of where that's coming from. 206 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 6: Well, I'm very curious if Newsom included in his press 207 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 6: confert nt yesterday at the high speed rail recently, as 208 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 6: of two weeks ago, paid their highest settlement of nearly 209 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 6: half a billion dollars to a construction company for delay 210 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 6: related contractual issues. Half a billion dollars. He didn't include that, 211 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 6: did he. Well, that's the kind of stuff that we 212 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 6: can hide with this new bill, because it's saying we 213 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 6: can summarize things that are revealing weaknesses if it doesn't 214 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 6: serve the interest of the state. Well, Ashley, what's the 215 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 6: interest of the state. It's to build the high speed rail. 216 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 6: So literally, anytime somebody like me who calls out those 217 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 6: weaknesses or people in the community, people who work on 218 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 6: the projects. We can hide that essentially in paperwork. Now 219 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 6: the Inspector General's report has been gold for those of 220 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 6: us that have been following this project because at least 221 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 6: they're willing to say some of the things that obviously 222 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 6: our CEO of the high speed rail won't. But they 223 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 6: also released these reports kind of in quiet. Sometimes you 224 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 6: have to know where to look and where it's at. 225 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 6: But now to add another layer of secrecy to a 226 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 6: project that has been scrutinized for its lack of transparency, 227 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 6: for its lack of results, for its failure on promises, 228 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 6: and now amidst all the claims of fraud, waste and 229 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 6: abuse that are going on in the state of California. 230 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 6: Lawmakers think this is a good idea? Absolutely not. 231 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 5: Do you really think that proposal has a fighting chance 232 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 5: though at the Capital just given the fact that you 233 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 5: and your colleagues have done work to ban NDAs in lawmaking, 234 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 5: essentially signaling you want to be more open about a 235 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 5: lot of these processes. And also just with the scrutiny 236 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 5: around the Capital Annex project, and how I mean essentially 237 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 5: an NDA is keeping basic information from the public on that. 238 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 5: I mean, do you really see that actually being something 239 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 5: that gets through. 240 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 6: Any Democrat idea that exists within Sacramento absolutely has a 241 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 6: chance of becoming a reality. And let's be real, the 242 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 6: reason why NDAs are now illegal in the state of 243 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 6: California for lawmakers is because of people like you created 244 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 6: a public pressure campaign that people were saying, this is ridiculous. 245 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 6: But we exist in somewhat of an echo chamber here 246 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 6: in Sacramento that your general, everyday, hard working Californian doesn't 247 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 6: always necessarily know what bad ideas are existing in the building. 248 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 6: That is why me and members of the Republican Caucus 249 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 6: have understood the assignment that we have to get this 250 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 6: information out to our constituents, but also to the constituents 251 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 6: that are represented by these Democrats that have these ideas 252 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 6: that you are electing people that are making your life harder, 253 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 6: more expensive, or now more secret as far as what 254 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 6: your tax payer dollars are doing. It's disrespectful, but that's 255 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 6: where the culture has to change in Sacramento. So many 256 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 6: people are focused on DC and what's happening in DC, 257 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 6: but so much of everybody's lives are impacted out of 258 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 6: what happens here in the state capitol in Sacramento. So 259 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 6: I really hope the general Californian wakes up follows what 260 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 6: their legislator is doing, and they can do that pretty 261 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 6: easily now. And they also make sure that they're getting 262 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 6: the facts and make sure they're acting accordingly with who 263 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 6: they put to represent them in Sacramento. 264 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: Wow. That is from the California Politics three p sixties 265 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: show Channel three KCRA and Sacramento. Actually Zavala the host. 266 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: And again, we don't have any journalists in Los Angeles 267 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: in any of the mediums covering Sacramento the way she does. 268 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: I don't know why, but that is the truth. Now, 269 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: let's go back to what Alexandra Mesido said. You have 270 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: over half a billion dollars that was blown by the 271 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: high speed rail paying off a construction company over delayed construction. 272 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: And this is the kind of stuff they want to 273 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: keep secret. I don't know the details of this, but 274 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: this is what's going on all the time. They want 275 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: to cover up all the fraud and all the waste 276 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: by writing this bill that has broad language saying that 277 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: any records that reveal weaknesses that could harm the state. Well, 278 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: what does that mean? When bad news stories come out 279 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: about high speed rail waste and fraud. It endangers the 280 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: state's ability to keep this project going. So they want 281 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: to use that as an all encompassing excuse to hide 282 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: all that information from the citizens, from public interest groups, 283 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: and from the media because people like Ashley Zavalla, people 284 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: like us want to know the information. And they do 285 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: this after they blew seventeen billion dollars. They want to 286 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: This is like Karen Bass wanting to cover up the 287 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: story of where all the homeless money went. This is 288 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: like her trying to cover up the testimony of the 289 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: firefighters in the Palisades depositions. This is the new thing. 290 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: Create some kind of legal framework to cover up the 291 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: crimes they're committing and all the money that's wasted and 292 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: all the fraud that's going on. More coming up. 293 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobel's on Demand from KFI AM 294 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: six forty. 295 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: We are on from one until four and after four 296 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: o'clock John cobelt Show on Demand on the iHeart app. 297 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: By the way, spent the whole two o'clock hour giving 298 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: you the first look at Nitia Rahman, who is a 299 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: major candidate for mayor against Karen Bass. She's an LA 300 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: City councilman and she is a communist. She's a member 301 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: of the Democratic Socialists of America party. It's it's about 302 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: defunding the police, about closing the prisons down. She thinks 303 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: homeless people can have encampments in front of schools. In fact, 304 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: she walked the walk on that one. She would not 305 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: close down or move an encampment that was right in 306 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 2: front of an elementary school, even though they were there 307 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: was not only mental patience and drug addicts in the camp, 308 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: but they were selling guns and drugs. Gang members were 309 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: selling guns, guns and drugs, and Nathia Rahman wouldn't move 310 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: those guys out. You know they've been They've passed an 311 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: ordinance where you five hundred feet around a school, no encampments. 312 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: She voted against that, and now she's running for mayor 313 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: and half of the sooner's going all right, yeah, we'll 314 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: have more unhurt tomorrow. Believe me, We're gonna work night 315 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: and day on that. And I'm Bass too, and we'll 316 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: get Spencer Pratt on soon too, because he may be 317 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: the most realistic hope. And if there's anybody else. I 318 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: know there's about forty other people running. You better start 319 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: your campaign and be really loud now, and you better 320 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: be funded with a lot of money. I don't know 321 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: what to tell you. I can make a case. You 322 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: know how much attention Jeffrey Epstein has gotten, right because 323 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: he sexually abused either himself or with his buddies an 324 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: untold number of young girls. There's no question that went on. 325 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: Although we still can't seem to get outside of Prince Andrew, 326 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: we still can't seem to get any evidence who his 327 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: buddies were who were having sex with the with the 328 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 2: teenage girls. For all they could, they released three million 329 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 2: pages and it's it's been I don't know six six 330 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: seven years of the scandal, and nobody knows anything more 331 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: than six or seven years ago. So I'm pretty much 332 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: done with that case. But I'm gonna make you an 333 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: argument that Mark Zuckerberg has been far more dangerous to 334 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 2: teenage girls than Jeffrey Epstein has ever been. They're having 335 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: a huge trial here in Los Angeles County in Superior Court. 336 00:19:54,960 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: Opening arguments started today against the parent company of Instagram 337 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: and Facebook. That's Meta at Zuckerberg's company. Also the parent 338 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: company of YouTube, that's Google, claims that their platforms addicted children, 339 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: harmed children, and according to documents, a top meta researcher 340 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 2: warned the company's executives race yourself. There could be as 341 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: many as five hundred thousand cases of online sexual exploitation 342 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 2: per day on Facebook and Instagram. These are in documents 343 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: that were unsealed yesterday, right before this jury trial opening 344 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: arguments began today accusing Mark Zuckerberg of exposing kids to 345 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: sexual exploitation and mental health harm to creepy messages, sextortion schemes, 346 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: and that has created a social media crisis that has 347 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: led to anxiety, depression, self harm, and suicides. TikTok and 348 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: Snap were also originally named in these lawsuits, but they 349 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: have settled and there there is a there seems to 350 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: be a number of cases. There's one in New Mexico. 351 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: It's affecting hundreds and thousands of children, and these cases 352 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: could determine how thousands of other similar lawsuits will play out. 353 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 2: And this argument that they're making see right now. They 354 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: the Facebook and Instagram and YouTube. They use protections they 355 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 2: claim First Amendment protection Section two thirty. Protection Section two 356 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: thirty was written into law in nineteen ninety six, which 357 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 2: protects tech companies from liability for material on their platform. 358 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: They claim, Hey, we're like the phone company. You can't 359 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: prosecute the phone company just because people are plotting crimes 360 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: over the phone lines. Well, same thing here, just because 361 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: people are soliciting or exploiting children sexually online. It's not 362 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: our fault that they use Instagram. There's one girl named 363 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 2: KGM nineteen. She says the use of social media addicted 364 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: her to the technology and exacerbated depression and suicidal thoughts. 365 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: The lawsuit claims this was done through deliberate design choices 366 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: made by the company to make their platforms more addictive 367 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: to children and to boost profits. And that is gonna 368 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: be the argument they're gonna use to try to get 369 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 2: around the First Amendment shield in section two thirty that 370 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 2: the defendants, like Meta, like Mark Zuckerberg, deliberately embedded in 371 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 2: their products an array of design features aimed at maximizing 372 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: youth engagement and others creating an addictive cycle and addictive 373 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: loop in children's brains. This trial is going to last 374 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: six to eight weeks. And you know Instagram YouTube, They 375 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 2: once you've clicked on a certain kind of video. They 376 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: feed you more and more videos. So once somebody clicks 377 00:23:53,240 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 2: on a video exploiting children, you will get more and 378 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: more of those. Or if you get a video about 379 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: at arexia, for example, you're gonna get more videos or 380 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 2: videos about girls comparing bodies, videos about what is attractive, 381 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 2: what's in style, and what's not. The more you click 382 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: on them, the more you get. And it has created 383 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: a lot of mental illness and a lot of teenagers 384 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: and younger, not to mention that there's a lot of 385 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 2: kids who've been exploited online because the videos are showing 386 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: real kids in sexual situations. And met has always known this, 387 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: Zuckerberg's always known this, but they never did anything about 388 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: it because it would depress their engagement. That's the term 389 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: they use. How many hours a teenage girl is going 390 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: to be on Instagram or watching YouTube? How many times 391 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: during the day they use these social media services, And 392 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 2: so the whole game was addict their brains. So they've 393 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: got to get another hit. They've got to get another hit, 394 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: all right, More coming up. 395 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 396 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 4: six forty. 397 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: We're on one to four and I guess we have 398 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: two hour first two hours of the podcast already on 399 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: the iHeart app. Okay, first two hours. Third hour will 400 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: debut shortly. Sam Darnold, you know, was the winning quarterback 401 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: for the Seattle Seahawks and the Super Bowl yesterday, which 402 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: they had in Santa Clara in the forty nine Ers 403 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: home Stadium. He is going to lose money because he's 404 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: going to owe more than one hundred and seventy eight 405 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: thousand dollars in California taxes for winning the Super Bowl. 406 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 2: He's gonna oh more money than the one hundred seventy 407 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 2: eight thousand that he earned. Excuse me, he earned one 408 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 2: hundred seventy eight thousand. He's going to owe more than 409 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 2: that in taxes. Why is this Well, because the state 410 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: has what they call jock taxes, which forced pro athletes 411 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: to pay state taxes based on their yearly income and 412 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 2: the number of days they work in California. Now, the 413 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: Seahawks came to Northern California on February first, and yesterday 414 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: was February eighth, so they had eight full days in 415 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 2: California and he's got to pay taxes on those eight days. 416 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 2: So he made one hundred seventy eight thousand dollars for 417 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowl. The taxes are going to be 418 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: two hundred and forty nine thousand dollars. You got that. 419 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: He's got to pay two hundred and forty nine thousand 420 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: dollars in taxes for being in California eight days and 421 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: playing in the Super Bowl. Boy, this is just crazy land, 422 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 2: absolutely right now. He's got plenty of money. Last contract 423 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 2: he signed was three years, one hundred and five million. 424 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 2: But that that is that is abusive. That that that's more, 425 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: that's more communist policy. You see's a quarter of a 426 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: million dollars from the guy. Yeah, they charged him for 427 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 2: eight days just living in the state, even if he 428 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: didn't do anything the other seven days. I mean obviously 429 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: he worked in practice. But meantime in Santa Monica, a 430 00:27:53,160 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 2: restaurant has been closed because there is such a rat 431 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 2: infestation next door in a homeless shelter. The rats got 432 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 2: into the restaurant. Now, this is a really nice restaurant 433 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: where they sell They sell steaks for one hundred and 434 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: twenty dollars. Lafonte Elafonte. On January twentieth, health officials close 435 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: to Elafonte vermin infestation that means rats. Well, they're saying 436 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 2: that because next door there is a homeless shelter paid 437 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: for by city taxpayers called Step Up on Second. Guess 438 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: that's the second Street. Dozens of homeless people in downtown 439 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: Santa Monica block from the beach, and they're housed right here. 440 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: According to doctor human David Hamadi, he said, stench all 441 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 2: the time, flies everywhere. Put it homeless shelter. Next the 442 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: nicest restaurants, you're gonna get rats and roaches. Step Up 443 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: on Second a nonprofit, a supportive housing provider for people 444 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: facing homelessness. Oh God. On their website, Step Up on 445 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: Second says they received major funding from the City of 446 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: Santa Monica. So the city of Santa Monica takes the 447 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 2: tax money from the citizens, gives it to this nonprofit 448 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: and they have some disgusting homeless shelter that's infested with 449 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: rats and roaches. The rats and roaches get loose and 450 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 2: the restaurant next door, and the restaurant has to close. 451 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: So you paid for this disgusting homeless shelter and the 452 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: rats and roaches, and now you can't eat at your 453 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: favorite restaurant because the city has to close it. This 454 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: is not a civilized society, This is not a civilized world. 455 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: This is what the progressives do. Is this actually a 456 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: political issue? Tax money for homeless people, rats and roaches? 457 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: Rest nice restaurant closes major breaches because of all the 458 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: rodents and bugs. This is this is, this is insanity. 459 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 2: One hundred twenty dollars steak, got it? I don't think 460 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: I've seen that can run upwards one hundred and twenty dollars. Wow, 461 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: it's good work. I mean, I mean, Santa Monica City Council. 462 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: You should be so proud of yourself. What lunatics? All right, 463 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: we got Conway coming up next and we'll see you tomorrow. 464 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: Crozier has the news live in the CAFI twenty four 465 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 2: hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the John Coe 466 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: Belt Show podcast. You can always hear the show live 467 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: on KFI AM six forty from one to four pm 468 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: every Monday through Friday, and of course, anytime on demand 469 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app.