Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts.
Speaker 2: Now you know they think they you want to use
Speaker 2: my whole name against me. Mike, listen, man, if you
Speaker 2: can't say the name is Abduhman, keep the name out
Speaker 2: your damn mouth.
Speaker 3: I'll be happy to give you lessons.
Speaker 4: I have never seen someone so radical, so extreme get
Speaker 4: nominated by a political party. The Democrat Party is lost
Speaker 4: to this hardcore socialist attitude. And listen, I thought terrorism
Speaker 4: my whole life. I was an FBI Special agent, US
Speaker 4: Army officer, chairman of the.
Speaker 3: House Intelligence Committee.
Speaker 5: I find it shocking that I'm going to.
Speaker 4: Go up against a guy who believes America deserved nine
Speaker 4: to eleven, like everyone being like abdullahs of work to
Speaker 4: do mending bridges.
Speaker 3: Here's the take nuke for you. Okay, you are all
Speaker 3: unbelievably islamophobic pieces.
Speaker 6: Okay, like you think about if you're on Instagram. My
Speaker 6: team has access on my Instagram account and like the
Speaker 6: things that I actually look at on Instagram, right, of
Speaker 6: course we get served that on your for you page.
Speaker 6: But then like every third video that scrolls on its
Speaker 6: own is going to be some only fans mom, and
Speaker 6: it's because it clocked me as.
Speaker 5: Being a forty some year old man.
Speaker 3: I know what America gave me.
Speaker 2: I spend summers in Egypt, I got my medical education
Speaker 2: paid for by the NIH and at the same time,
Speaker 2: growing up just fifteen minutes away from me, children whose
Speaker 2: families have been here far longer than mine never got
Speaker 2: those same operations.
Speaker 7: But in Missouri, progressive candidate Cory Bush fall short. I'm
Speaker 7: trying to reclaim her seat in the state's first congressional district,
Speaker 7: Lovely Bell, who defeated Book in the twenty twenty four primary.
Speaker 3: One of the.
Speaker 7: Rematch, d ESA national coach chair Megan Romer is reacting seeing,
Speaker 7: in part, were heartbroken over this laws and heartbroken over
Speaker 7: the fact that APAK and other special interest groups can
Speaker 7: still buy elections unfettered. But we know that the thousands
Speaker 7: of doors that Corey and her team of supporters knocked
Speaker 7: weren't in vain. They're billing toward a stronger, more coherent
Speaker 7: movement to fight against fascism.
Speaker 8: Brooks, did you vote today?
Speaker 9: Yes, I voted today. I voted for Abdul Alsai. I
Speaker 9: like a lot of his policies Medicare for all, But
Speaker 9: what really convinced me is I've seen Hailey Stevens talk
Speaker 9: far more passionately.
Speaker 5: About her support for Israel.
Speaker 9: Than anything he has for Michigan. So I feel voting
Speaker 9: for her would leap blood on my hands and I
Speaker 9: can't do that.
Speaker 8: And how old are you, Brooks?
Speaker 9: I'm nineteen, nice, this is my first election, very excited
Speaker 9: to vote for abdul Helsaye.
Speaker 10: I want to say to Brooks, I found it kind
Speaker 10: of interesting that you said, like if your friends voted,
Speaker 10: because that obviously is one of the beer concerns with
Speaker 10: younger voters.
Speaker 3: Is getting them out to the poles.
Speaker 10: You know, the Republican side, they're struggling to get voters
Speaker 10: out with Trump down on the the Democratic side especially,
Speaker 10: I would say, I'll say it hoping to get these
Speaker 10: younger voters who like what he has to say but
Speaker 10: might not feel motivated to vote today.
Speaker 4: The excitement in the Republican Party here has never been higher.
Speaker 4: Our numbers in the Republican Party are off the charge.
Speaker 4: You have two broken candidates here. I mean one wants
Speaker 4: to allow the Communist Party to buy farm land here
Speaker 4: and the other one believes that you know that the
Speaker 4: America deserved nine to eleven when you know all around
Speaker 4: the state. Talk Republicans, Democrats, independence, whoever will talk to
Speaker 4: to us, talk to us. They have tears in their
Speaker 4: eyes when they're talking about their kids and their grandkids
Speaker 4: leaving this state because there is no more opportunity. We
Speaker 4: have solutions for that, and what you can't do is
Speaker 4: continue to do the same thing.
Speaker 11: The big and armed men said to be monitoring security
Speaker 11: planning activities arrested on Sunday with a cache of weapons
Speaker 11: and body armor. This is all happening outside of Trump
Speaker 11: National Golf Course. They also found him with an illegally
Speaker 11: modified ar platform rifle, a couple of radio signal devices
Speaker 11: on nineteen eleven, body armor, high capacity mags, hollowpoint AMMO,
Speaker 11: and multiple notebooks containing quote concerning statements. Talley's vehicles also searched,
Speaker 11: and deputies say they recovered a loaded pistol with a
Speaker 11: chambered round in the car, along with more ammunition. This
Speaker 11: would be yet another disturbing activity that could have potentially
Speaker 11: been a plot to assassinate the president.
Speaker 3: There was a threat.
Speaker 11: There was a man who was arrested seemed to be
Speaker 11: heavily armed near the property here on Sunday.
Speaker 3: Is it's an ongoing concern.
Speaker 12: Sir, talk about that for a brief you figures.
Speaker 3: Well, the only thing I get a little solace from
Speaker 3: is they say only consequential presidents, and I am definitely consequential.
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Speaker 14: It's August fifth, and it would be a Wednesday, which
Speaker 14: means last night we had the Michigan Primary and everybody
Speaker 14: was watching for the hotly contested Democrat side of the
Speaker 14: Ledger Mike Rodgers was uncontested on the Republican side. But
Speaker 14: it looks like it was a lot closer than we anticipated.
Speaker 14: But Abdul Elseiah did, I believe pull it off, barring
Speaker 14: any surprises. But that's the race. Has been called by
Speaker 14: the New York Times and others. He won forty eight
Speaker 14: point four eight percent to forty seven point five to
Speaker 14: one percent, a difference really of about I mean, it's
Speaker 14: razor thin.
Speaker 3: I mean it's what is.
Speaker 14: That fourteen fifteen thousand votes separating them?
Speaker 3: The polling had this.
Speaker 14: Thing at like maybe ten, right, it was going to
Speaker 14: be a ten point fifteen maybe fifteen, And so because
Speaker 14: there was so much irregularities, I wanted to bring on
Speaker 14: an actual polster right at the jump here, Mark Mitchell.
Speaker 14: He's a head polster at the Honest Polling Company. Mark,
Speaker 14: Good to have you back, my friend. There's so many
Speaker 14: irregularities here. And I want to get into this Trump
Speaker 14: tweet because he wou and me talk before the show.
Speaker 14: I think I misinterpreted it, but directionally we're kind of
Speaker 14: getting the same thing, but maybe it's slightly a different
Speaker 14: conclusion here. I'm going to read it and then you
Speaker 14: have I'm going to have you react to it. So,
Speaker 14: Wayne County Detroit in Michigan is one of the most
Speaker 14: corrupt voting areas in the United States, if not the world.
Speaker 3: It is strictly third world.
Speaker 14: No arguments yet, right, Mark, We're all in agreement with
Speaker 14: the boss right.
Speaker 3: About all that.
Speaker 14: Yeah, miracles happened in Wayne County, including more votes being
Speaker 14: cassed than there are voters by a lot Therefore, the
Speaker 14: communist who has not liked in Detroit is potentially inte
Speaker 14: counter trouble. The radical left socialist has a real shot.
Speaker 14: And don't discount all of those fake mail in ballots
Speaker 14: that will surprisingly show up at the last moment. Get
Speaker 14: ready for another rigged election in November. We must vote
Speaker 14: for Mike Rodgers and make Michigan too big to rig.
Speaker 14: So I interpreted this as there was funniness afoot in Michigan.
Speaker 3: There was the establishment Dems came out.
Speaker 14: They did not want Abdul Lsayed to win, They wanted
Speaker 14: Hailey Stevens to win, and they tried to rig it,
Speaker 14: and they tried to rig it in some weird ways.
Speaker 14: Because some of this stuff just doesn't make any sense. Mark,
Speaker 14: And I'm not sure what the president means then, but
Speaker 14: you tell me what you think he means and why
Speaker 14: he's got it a little bit wrong here.
Speaker 3: Well, so we got a break down. We'll go with
Speaker 3: the end.
Speaker 12: First, he says, vote Mike Rogers. Okay, good there, vote
Speaker 12: for the Republican. The Democrats shouldn't win in Michigan. But
Speaker 12: he's tweeting because he's upset with the response of what
Speaker 12: happened last night, Well, what's he upset about? Sied won
Speaker 12: and it seems like he would have preferred Stevens to win,
Speaker 12: which is why he's objecting to what happens with the electioneering, right,
Speaker 12: And that's wild and totally in congruos because, like what
Speaker 12: you said, the polling overwhelmingly said.
Speaker 3: That say Ed was going to win.
Speaker 12: The prediction markets both had him at like ninety nine
Speaker 12: to one. The fact that it was a one point
Speaker 12: race is actually kind of Nutso it would be one
Speaker 12: of the biggest polling like misses of the industry that
Speaker 12: I can recall off the top of my head. And
Speaker 12: this isn't like New Jersey where you know, hey, it's
Speaker 12: a special election and it's just after the twenty four
Speaker 12: and there weren't that many people that pulled it, and
Speaker 12: so of course we were surprised. No, this is like
Speaker 12: a lot of people were interested in this race and
Speaker 12: good pollsters. You guys said fifteen percent. Emerson is a
Speaker 12: good and you know they missed.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's hard.
Speaker 12: It's getting harder and harder with all of this money,
Speaker 12: with all the electioneering, with the machine problems that we
Speaker 12: haven't fixed, with the increase in mail in ballots, and
Speaker 12: so I look at that race and I say, well,
Speaker 12: what do we know so far? There was a huge turnout,
Speaker 12: There was a really big mail interurnout, and Sied massively
Speaker 12: underperformed the polling. And so what I'm looking at then
Speaker 12: is why did Syed underperform the polling? Well, he was
Speaker 12: out competed. Stevens had a ton of money. They were
Speaker 12: probably doing the things that Democrats do and Democrat states
Speaker 12: to get their establishment candidate to win because she is
Speaker 12: the establishment candidate, which was probably handing out packs of
Speaker 12: cigarettes in the inner city and driving mail in ballots
Speaker 12: around to like nursing homes, like all of the things.
Speaker 5: That we know about happen.
Speaker 3: I think that's what happened.
Speaker 12: And so I mean Trump's upset that the establishment Democrat
Speaker 12: won because now you're going to have a DSA candidate,
Speaker 12: let's be real, the establishment Republican, and that will be
Speaker 12: really the first time we see a race like that
Speaker 12: in a statewide race in.
Speaker 5: A purple state.
Speaker 12: So I think the twenty sixth race for Michigan sen
Speaker 12: and all of a sudden got really interested.
Speaker 14: Yeah, And I mean, this is what's interesting. So you
Speaker 14: talk about electioneering, we know the Democrats do this stuff.
Speaker 14: We know, they play games, they packed, you know, these
Speaker 14: mail ins and these.
Speaker 3: All of this stuff.
Speaker 14: So he lost early city vote by fifty points, Like
Speaker 14: that doesn't make any sense. Usually the more progressive candidate
Speaker 14: wins it. This tells me that establishment Dems, especially in
Speaker 14: some of these black urban cores, they didn't like el
Speaker 14: si ed and they were working against him, doing all
Speaker 14: the shenanigans that we are now so accustomed to.
Speaker 3: Mark, am I wrong here?
Speaker 12: Now you're one hundred percent right? And again like there's
Speaker 12: an aspect of this that we'll just never know. Looking
Speaker 12: for instance, at the Emerson cross tabs and Pulley's not perfect,
Speaker 12: and the the subsamples excuse my dog for black voters
Speaker 12: is probably small in his big margins, bear, but their
Speaker 12: poll had Stevens winning by forty among black voters. And
Speaker 12: then you look at inner city you know, districts in Detroit,
Speaker 12: and it's like, okay, they're coming in fifty, they're coming
Speaker 12: in higher than.
Speaker 3: That in some places.
Speaker 12: Probably you have Cliburne that was hilling for the establishment
Speaker 12: candidate probably out there, like knows how some of these
Speaker 12: electioneering rackets work. I'm not accusing anybody anything. So I
Speaker 12: think it's pretty clear like what probably happened. And we're
Speaker 12: seeing these kinds of things in other races too, where
Speaker 12: a lot of money gets poured in to help shore
Speaker 12: up an establishment candidate or ensure that they win. Yeah,
Speaker 12: and again, like you know, Sayad's crazy, like yes, we
Speaker 12: should not defund the police, right, Like obviously he's crazy.
Speaker 12: But the problem that the Republicans have to wrestle with
Speaker 12: is that he's going to moderate and he's not going
Speaker 12: to run on that stuff, and he's going to run
Speaker 12: like mom Donnie, which is just like, hey, let me
Speaker 12: give you a bigmic hug. I'm here to help save
Speaker 12: you and fix things, and banded for the youth. That's
Speaker 12: going to appeal to people.
Speaker 15: Well, I want to ask a speculative question mark, which
Speaker 15: is there was also there weren't super competitive Republican races,
Speaker 15: so their turnout was lower. But they had a primary
Speaker 15: for District eight that's the Flint area, and there was
Speaker 15: a candidate who dropped out, had stopped campaigning, Thomas Smith,
Speaker 15: and he actually defeated pretty easily, like seventeen points. Here
Speaker 15: Amir Hassan, who was the endorsed candidate by President Trump,
Speaker 15: and so I guess it's worth asking do you think
Speaker 15: this is some sort of name factor where people are
Speaker 15: getting spooked by these more Islamic sounding names, and could
Speaker 15: that end up playing a role in the general election
Speaker 15: where we have Mike Rogers super generic, you know, English
Speaker 15: sounding name versus Abdul Elseaeid.
Speaker 12: So I'm going to try and provide what I think
Speaker 12: are like the core. You know, logic that applies to
Speaker 12: all these races when we look at them is that
Speaker 12: you have your firm, straight ticket Republican base voter and
Speaker 12: you have your firm straight ticket Republican Democrat voter. They're
Speaker 12: kind of two different people. The Democrat just wants to win.
Speaker 12: They don't really care so much about the candidate. The
Speaker 12: Republican would like to see the Republican do something. And
Speaker 12: because of that, and because traditionally Republicans don't do as much,
Speaker 12: there are less of those people. There are less of
Speaker 12: the core. We know this, like we saw this nationwide electorally.
Speaker 12: But what there are is this surge volume of people
Speaker 12: who are a lot more malleable and less ideological, and
Speaker 12: they don't care about things as much like the Muslims. Skuy,
Speaker 12: It's going to turn them off.
Speaker 5: So if you're going with.
Speaker 12: Those people, you have to have a strategy.
Speaker 3: Mark, stay right there. We got you for another segment.
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Speaker 14: I want to get into two things now, and that
Speaker 14: is the c Span caller is this clip is just
Speaker 14: gold and I have to play it because I think
Speaker 14: there's lessons for the Republican side on this as well.
Speaker 14: And then I want to talk about how brutal this
Speaker 14: primary was. And you already got Hassan Piker saying we're
Speaker 14: not gonna mend fences. These guys were calling him a
Speaker 14: terrorist and all this stuff. So there's I think some
Speaker 14: opportunity to exploit that. Let's go ahead and start with this.
Speaker 14: Sod eleven. This is c Span Colleges, nineteen years old.
Speaker 14: Call her named Brooks, play.
Speaker 3: Eleven, Brooks.
Speaker 1: Did you vote today?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 16: I voted today.
Speaker 3: I voted for abdul Alsai.
Speaker 9: I like a lot of his policies, Medicare for all.
Speaker 9: But what really convinced me is I've seen Hailey Stevens
Speaker 9: talk far more passionately about her support for Israel than
Speaker 9: anything she has for Michigan. So I feel voting for
Speaker 9: her would leave blood on my hands and I can't
Speaker 9: do that.
Speaker 8: And how old are you, Brooks?
Speaker 9: I'm nineteen. It was my first election, very excited to
Speaker 9: vote for abdul al said.
Speaker 14: So, I guess the question is Mark, and I know
Speaker 14: that you and Rich and some others have basically been saying, hey,
Speaker 14: this a pac money has become toxic, whether it's right
Speaker 14: or wrong, whether it's it's justified or not. You know
Speaker 14: a lot of people think of it, think of it
Speaker 14: as lobbying for a foreign country. Have to correct the
Speaker 14: record that these are Jewish Americans, right, But they are
Speaker 14: interested in Israel.
Speaker 3: So that's it's maybe it's a distinction without a difference
Speaker 3: on some levels.
Speaker 14: But how prevalent is this when you're polling, especially gen Z,
Speaker 14: anybody under forty or maybe even fifty, And how much
Speaker 14: does this bleed into how Mike Rogers should message on
Speaker 14: this topic.
Speaker 12: Well, that's a lot to answer. First off, you're not
Speaker 12: going to see people put foreign policy very high on
Speaker 12: their list.
Speaker 3: Of interests when they go to vote.
Speaker 12: It's just not it's like sixth, seventh or eighth whenever
Speaker 12: you stack rank these things. But Israel is an issue,
Speaker 12: and I would really bring up two issues. There's capitalism
Speaker 12: versus socialism and Israel. And the reason that these young
Speaker 12: people are going towards you know, candidates like this is
Speaker 12: because they think that older people are too focused on
Speaker 12: Israel and they think that people aren't focused on their
Speaker 12: economic livelihoods. And that's the big one. So overwhelmingly, economy's
Speaker 12: the number one issue voters.
Speaker 3: I could just rattle.
Speaker 12: Off a ton of polling about how they think the
Speaker 12: entire system is cooked against them. And what's really wild
Speaker 12: is that most under forty voters, including Trump voters, people
Speaker 12: that voted for Trump, overwhelmingly support things that sound really socialist,
Speaker 12: like nationalizing industries or confiscating excess wealth.
Speaker 3: These are people who call themselves conservatives.
Speaker 12: I think it was over fifty percent of under forty
Speaker 12: Trump voters in one of our polls said that they
Speaker 12: would actually vote for a socialist candidate. So the problem
Speaker 12: is an optics and messaging problem for the right, okay,
Speaker 12: And things, in my opinion that aren't going to work
Speaker 12: are putting is real first, or accusing other people of
Speaker 12: being a socialist.
Speaker 5: Young people don't really aren't scared by that.
Speaker 12: And even I don't think the xenophobia stuff like we
Speaker 12: talked about before the break is going to be very
Speaker 12: effective because I think these people want to be put
Speaker 12: first and are expecting authenticity and quite frankly, the maturity
Speaker 12: to get into government and sort of like deliver on
Speaker 12: what you promised and what that needs to be if
Speaker 12: you want to capture the under really, it's the under
Speaker 12: fifty voter. Now, in my opinion, is national economic populism.
Speaker 12: And I said this message to Trump last fall, and
Speaker 12: I wish there had been more listening, and maybe now
Speaker 12: it's too late. I don't know. But what you need
Speaker 12: to give these people is something to vote for a
Speaker 12: reason that were Republicans long term will fix the problems
Speaker 12: that are structurally affecting young people in America. And that
Speaker 12: means providing some kind of meaningful alternative to socialism. And
Speaker 12: it ain't just more of the same Like Granddaddy's capitalism
Speaker 12: is not going to win. It might win for a
Speaker 12: little longer as long as you keep dumping advertising into
Speaker 12: the boomer or linear television slots, but there's going to
Speaker 12: be a tipping point and the young people aren't going
Speaker 12: to be fighting the same right left battle that the older,
Speaker 12: more ideological generations are. It's going to be over putting
Speaker 12: themselves first and getting what they want. And unfortunately for Israel,
Speaker 12: they've made themselves a pretty big whipping boy over this.
Speaker 12: And I tried to say this was going to be
Speaker 12: a problem, and my advice for Trump wasn't like, don't
Speaker 12: do the Iran strike it's make sure that you show
Speaker 12: people that you're still putting their economic situation first despite
Speaker 12: whatever else you do, and they would let him get
Speaker 12: away with whatever. I mean, nobody really cared about Venezuela.
Speaker 12: We're in and out, and we were still focused on,
Speaker 12: you know, the economy and the domestic policy agenda.
Speaker 14: Yeah, and listen, I think this what everything you're saying,
Speaker 14: I basically, you know, I think there's really well articulated there,
Speaker 14: and none of this should be interpreted as anti Israel
Speaker 14: or anti Semitic. No, I think we you know it
Speaker 14: bears repeating. We think that stuff is brain rot and
Speaker 14: it's garbage from the pit of hell. But when we're
Speaker 14: talking about pure politics, it's important to understand what young
Speaker 14: people are hearing, how they're interpreting it, and what they're
Speaker 14: voting on. And your message here, I totally agree, is economy, economy, economy,
Speaker 14: What are my felt realities? And we could tell people
Speaker 14: they have to cook their own burritos and they need
Speaker 14: to cook from home all they want, but at the
Speaker 14: end of the day, things are expensive, and that's not
Speaker 14: necessarily Trump's fault. I think he deserves a lot of
Speaker 14: credit for bringing inflation back down, especially when you're navigating
Speaker 14: the complexities of the Iran war. But the felt, the
Speaker 14: felt situation for many young people especially is that we
Speaker 14: just are not getting what we hoped we would get,
Speaker 14: and maybe those expectations were unrealistic, but that is a
Speaker 14: lived experience and that has political ramifications.
Speaker 3: So we just need to message on it. We need
Speaker 3: we need big.
Speaker 14: National messaging pr battles on this front about what we're
Speaker 14: doing to address the problems domestically. Okay, I've only got
Speaker 14: I've only got a few seconds here, so I want
Speaker 14: to hit this last point. There is carnage after this
Speaker 14: primary mark on the Democrat side, and I think we
Speaker 14: need to take a note of it. Here's a Hassan
Speaker 14: Piker talking about mending bridges.
Speaker 3: He doesn't like it.
Speaker 14: It's not six like everyone being like Abdullah's a ton
Speaker 14: of work to do mending bridges.
Speaker 3: Here's the take nuke for you. Okay, you are all
Speaker 3: unbelievably islamophobic pieces.
Speaker 14: Okay, so we're not getting conciliatory messaging from the chief
Speaker 14: LSI ED pusher Hassan Piker. Here, what can Republicans do
Speaker 14: to exploit this mark?
Speaker 3: One minute?
Speaker 12: No, I think they can learn from the situation that
Speaker 12: what you're seeing is playing out on both the right
Speaker 12: and the left. Right now, there are people, intractable people
Speaker 12: in both sides who are fighting over basically Israel and
Speaker 12: the economy. And when I say the economy, it's not
Speaker 12: just prices, it's the idea that the entire economic system
Speaker 12: is cooked against the younger people. This happened before binding inflation.
Speaker 12: Remember Bernie Sanders was doing very well with young people
Speaker 12: long before the inflation was a problem. So what we
Speaker 12: have is an issue where the workers aren't being represented.
Speaker 12: There's too much globalism, financialization and rent seeking have ruined everything.
Speaker 12: And right now again, I think that's the biggest opportunity
Speaker 12: because it was a natural extension of Trump's platform, which
Speaker 12: is to realize we have to change the way the
Speaker 12: economy works for people in this country. Now you can
Speaker 12: laugh at Hasan Piker. I don't know how like effective
Speaker 12: it's going to be, but we have the same people
Speaker 12: that are trying to purify through subtraction, which is a
Speaker 12: term me and Rich both came up with.
Speaker 3: It's not an effective strategy to.
Speaker 5: Build a coalition.
Speaker 14: Mark Mitchell, great Stuff, chief head polster at the Honest
Speaker 14: Polling company.
Speaker 3: Thank you, my friend. I'm talking to you soon. Coach
Speaker 3: tubber bel joins us. Next.
Speaker 17: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Speaker 17: Terrence Bates. The full Senate is expected to vote on
Speaker 17: Todd Blanche's confirmation as the country's next attorney general as
Speaker 17: soon as today. Blanche is looking to drop excuse me,
Speaker 17: the acting from his title after clearing the Senate Judiciary
Speaker 17: Committee with the twelve to two party line vote yesterday.
Speaker 17: Blanche has a new Republican opponent this morning, though, as
Speaker 17: Senator Susan Collins of Maine says she'll oppose his nomination.
Speaker 17: That clouds Blanche's confirmation a bit, despite the fact that
Speaker 17: he won over Republican Senators Tom Tillison John Currnin earlier
Speaker 17: this week by offering them assurances about President Trump's one
Speaker 17: point eight billion dollar weaponization fund. That fund was meant
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Speaker 18: I vote to advance mister Blanche's nomination goes beyond this document.
Speaker 18: We need a stabilizing force at the Department of Justice,
Speaker 18: and mister Blanche deserves the opportunity to provide that. As
Speaker 18: opposed to continuing to serve an enacting capacity and as
Speaker 18: the Deputy Attorney General. The Department of Justice does not
Speaker 18: need a temporary, unconfirmed nominee as our nation's top law
Speaker 18: enforcement officer. President Trump needs someone in this role as well,
Speaker 18: with a strong legal mind, but who also is close
Speaker 18: enough to him to give him confidential legal advice to
Speaker 18: tell him hard truth.
Speaker 17: Blanche's confirmation vote before the full Senate is expected to
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Speaker 17: of the administration's attempt to end all remaining January sixth prosecutions.
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Speaker 14: Without further ado, we have Coach Tubberville, the great senator
Speaker 14: from the state of Alabamaho's going to be the next
Speaker 14: governor of that state, and we're sad to lose him
Speaker 14: from the Senate. But given how crazy the Senate is getting,
Speaker 14: I can imagine that selfishly, you are probably looking forward
Speaker 14: to a change of pace there, Senator, so we got
Speaker 14: to talk about it. You are, mister Sharia, You are
Speaker 14: fighting it at every turn. We now have an Abdul
Speaker 14: lsa Ed who is the Democrat primary winner in Michigan.
Speaker 14: He's a man of Egyptian descent. He spent his summers
Speaker 14: in Egypt. He talked about that last night, and he's
Speaker 14: a radical communist and he's gonna be the Democrat standard
Speaker 14: bearer in that state up against Mike Rogers.
Speaker 19: Your take, sir, The enemy is inside the gate and
Speaker 19: they're coming hard. And unfortunately, our education systems pushed a
Speaker 19: lot of our younger kids. And then of course we
Speaker 19: have Democrats that are actually Democrats, but there are followers,
Speaker 19: they're not leaders, and they're following this socialist communists agenda
Speaker 19: to a t. And we're fighting it every day here,
Speaker 19: but we don't have enough fighters on our side. On
Speaker 19: the Republican side, you know, we think everything's gonna run
Speaker 19: on an autopilot and it's gonna be okay. If we don't
Speaker 19: straighten out this country's voting, if we don't straighten out
Speaker 19: this country's immigration system, we're not gonna make it.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be over with and as you said.
Speaker 19: I'm gonna go back to Alabama and where hey, we
Speaker 19: might build a thirty foot wall around our date because
Speaker 19: I know what's coming. I can see it coming, I
Speaker 19: can hear it coming. I can you know, you can
Speaker 19: just smell it out there that they want to take
Speaker 19: this country over and they're not. You know, they're a
Speaker 19: lot more aggressive than we are as Americans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's right.
Speaker 14: So this is this is Abdul lsa Ed talking about
Speaker 14: his American experience.
Speaker 3: Sot for.
Speaker 5: I know what America gave me.
Speaker 2: I spend summers in Egypt, I got my medical education
Speaker 2: paid for by.
Speaker 3: The NIH and at the same time, growing up.
Speaker 2: Just fifteen minutes away from me, children whose families had
Speaker 2: been here far longer than mine, who never got those
Speaker 2: same opportunities.
Speaker 14: So he's talking about economics, he's talking about medicare for all,
Speaker 14: he's talking about making things more affordable. This is their messaging.
Speaker 14: But it's all going to lead to this. It's been
Speaker 14: tried time and time again. But there's a couple issues.
Speaker 3: Senator.
Speaker 14: We have economic illiteracy with so many young people. It's
Speaker 14: just a fact. I mean, I've talked to them. These
Speaker 14: are good kids, they're good patriots, they love their country.
Speaker 3: They just don't they don't understand. I'll never forget.
Speaker 14: We were doing a round table for our chapter leadership summit,
Speaker 14: and one of the girls around the table. Senator said
Speaker 14: that maybe a solution was increasing the minimum wage, as
Speaker 14: if that would have any practical impact on anything other
Speaker 14: than making things more expensive. But this is a problem
Speaker 14: because this message is rosy, and I'm worried that we
Speaker 14: are not, as Republicans, countering it with a positive vision
Speaker 14: of how our ideas are actually the ones that are
Speaker 14: going to work. And I'm worried we're not focused enough
Speaker 14: on that.
Speaker 5: Your take, yeah, well, we don't have a game plan.
Speaker 19: I mean, there's no plan in intact up here from
Speaker 19: the federal government that takes this back to our kids
Speaker 19: all over the country and explains to them the difference
Speaker 19: between social communism and being a capitalist country. They don't
Speaker 19: realize how good we have it here now. I can
Speaker 19: understand a lot of them going to these universities and
Speaker 19: getting a degree in sociology and spending one hundred and
Speaker 19: fifty thousand dollars or barring one hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 19: dollars getting out and they can't get a job at
Speaker 19: Walmart because they didn't get a degree that actually you
Speaker 19: can get a job. Our universities have become a business
Speaker 19: instead of an educational institution. They want to make money.
Speaker 19: They enable all these woke professors that have been there
Speaker 19: for years, that are on tenured to preach whatever they
Speaker 19: want to preach, and they're not controlled. So we got
Speaker 19: a lot of problems. And President Trump wants to take
Speaker 19: education out of the federal government. He's exactly right, we
Speaker 19: have to do that. If we don't, that's going to
Speaker 19: be a continuation of just indoctrinating these kids in this
Speaker 19: woke ideology. But again that and then immigration of letting
Speaker 19: these people come here from countries that that just that
Speaker 19: have no clue. This guy says, we deserve nine to eleven.
Speaker 19: It's what's been twenty five years. It hadn't been that
Speaker 19: long ago. What are you talking about? And when I
Speaker 19: got my degree because of NIH?
Speaker 5: Who you think paid for your degree?
Speaker 19: Capitalists in this country paid money, tax money, and NIH
Speaker 19: has stolen it for years and given it people all
Speaker 19: over the world. It is we've got a broken system.
Speaker 19: The federal gunment's broken President Trump's trying to put it
Speaker 19: back together, but unfortunately he's been fought from both sides,
Speaker 19: from Republicans and Democrats.
Speaker 15: Yeah, Coach Tuberville, I think it's We had a writer
Speaker 15: on Helen Andrews yesterday and she talked about what should
Speaker 15: really frighten us is how easy these figures like Hassan Piker,
Speaker 15: like Elsaiaed, these guys who their parents weren't born here,
Speaker 15: maybe they themselves weren't born here, but how adept they
Speaker 15: are at using this lingo of white supremacy, of America
Speaker 15: as a racist country, as America as a nation that
Speaker 15: needs to atone and pay reparations, especially to people like
Speaker 15: themselves or their parents or their kids who only recently
Speaker 15: arrived here.
Speaker 3: And we were.
Speaker 15: Also discussing this in context, we still have Republicans on
Speaker 15: Capitol Hill who say we need more guest workers, more
Speaker 15: migration from the Third World. We're basically sticking our head
Speaker 15: into a noose here of let's bring in people who
Speaker 15: are adopting this rhetoric of let's destroy America, and we're
Speaker 15: just feeding it to them. And it's so easy for
Speaker 15: them to build their entire lives and now win elections
Speaker 15: around it.
Speaker 1: Who are they fooling?
Speaker 19: Yeah, we're walking into a war zone without a gun
Speaker 19: and there's nobody fighting back.
Speaker 5: Everybody, let me tell you what happens up here.
Speaker 19: We're more worried right now about going out and campaigning
Speaker 19: and trying to keep a majority than we are doing
Speaker 19: what we should do. How about we take care of
Speaker 19: the American people. Don't worry about getting elected. I mean,
Speaker 19: we don't try to play to win up here. All
Speaker 19: we try to do is turbye, and that has gotten
Speaker 19: us in trouble. We should be passing everything in the world.
Speaker 19: Bust a filibuster because folks, it is coming when they
Speaker 19: get control. And it's not gonna be too far down
Speaker 19: the road with the people we have elected now up
Speaker 19: here in the Senate and the House, by the way,
Speaker 19: that we're going to be controlled by these communists, and
Speaker 19: it's gonna be game, set match.
Speaker 5: I mean we are we're on the last leg.
Speaker 19: I mean, this is not where this could happen thirty
Speaker 19: forty fifty years from now. It's gonna happen a year
Speaker 19: or two now if we don't understand what is happening.
Speaker 19: But again, we got too many people that love power.
Speaker 19: We got too many people that are greedy. We have
Speaker 19: too many people that really don't understand anything other than
Speaker 19: I just want to come back up here. I want
Speaker 19: to I want to help my name as a or
Speaker 19: a senator.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and that's true.
Speaker 14: They want they want the title, but we can't even
Speaker 14: get Republicans to stay in DC during the August recess.
Speaker 14: Now throw up one eighty two. You are proudly one
Speaker 14: of these people. And by the way, if you weren't,
Speaker 14: anybody who's not calling to cancel the August recess is
Speaker 14: not allowed on this show right now, I mean probably ever.
Speaker 3: But throw the image up here.
Speaker 14: That's a good chunk of the GOP in the Senate.
Speaker 14: And yet we can't get a leader soon to get
Speaker 14: behind this effort and get the Save America Act pass.
Speaker 3: Let's play cut thirteen.
Speaker 20: First, is there are no Democrats we're going to vote
Speaker 20: for this all forty seven voted against the Save Act
Speaker 20: five times. So let's make this an issue in the campaign.
Speaker 20: How about we go out and turn our fire on
Speaker 20: Democrats and make it about them opposing the Save Act.
Speaker 20: So we're not that's the point. So we're not getting
Speaker 20: any Democrats. The second thing is we are not getting
Speaker 20: rid of the legislator, Philibuscher. The votes aren't there to
Speaker 20: do that. I've made it abundantly clear, many many times, and
Speaker 20: it seems to me some days that I'm the only
Speaker 20: one here can count to fifty in this town.
Speaker 14: I mean, I just hear that, and I just hear
Speaker 14: it just get gets my blood boiling.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 14: We have had a trifecta of Republican control in the House,
Speaker 14: Senate and the White House five times in the last century.
Speaker 3: Five times. Most of the time. It's two years since,
Speaker 3: and he wants to use it for the next election.
Speaker 14: Has he not looked at the polling we've got Like
Speaker 14: time is short. I cannot, for the life of me
Speaker 14: wrap my head around what the hell he's talking about.
Speaker 14: Cancel the August recess. And I'm sorry to get worked up,
Speaker 14: but this is just I've been This has been building
Speaker 14: up in me for so long.
Speaker 3: Senator.
Speaker 14: I know you got to keep things collegial because it's
Speaker 14: what you senators.
Speaker 3: Kind of have to do.
Speaker 14: But what is going on? Why can we not cancel
Speaker 14: the stink in August recess?
Speaker 19: Well, first of all, there's a lot of Trump derangement
Speaker 19: syndrome up here. They want the country to stay the
Speaker 19: way it was. They don't understand how it's changing underneath
Speaker 19: us as we speak. I mean, there's a war going
Speaker 19: on out there. This is not the America that we
Speaker 19: knew just five, six, seven years ago. This has totally changed.
Speaker 19: And the president he sees it, he sees it. Okay,
Speaker 19: you know things have to change here. You got to
Speaker 19: bust to philibuster. The only way we're going to keep
Speaker 19: majority is bust to philibuster. Past everything we possibly can
Speaker 19: at fifty one get the country back on track because
Speaker 19: when and if they do eventually they went they're going
Speaker 19: to bust.
Speaker 3: To philibust exactly right.
Speaker 19: Yeah, The only way we can get re elected up
Speaker 19: here is do something for the American people.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you something, people are going to fight
Speaker 5: their tails off.
Speaker 19: If we go on recess at the end of this week,
Speaker 19: we will not come back until the middle of September.
Speaker 19: Then we'll go two weeks, then we're going again for
Speaker 19: another month, and then we have the midterms. It's gonna
Speaker 19: be games that match. You know, they're looking at us,
Speaker 19: going we gave the majority and you're not doing anything
Speaker 19: well for you again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and why exactly. Listen.
Speaker 14: I am of the perspective that the Democrats aren't acceptable. Okay,
Speaker 14: this country cannot absorb another three to five million illegals
Speaker 14: every year under the Democrat rule.
Speaker 3: Okay, we can't.
Speaker 14: We can't, so that that is out of the option list. Okay,
Speaker 14: they have lost their minds. They are a bunch of communists.
Speaker 14: Obviously that's unacceptable. But for the love Republicans, if you
Speaker 14: don't do your job, people in the middle normies, people
Speaker 14: that are not clued in, are not going to come
Speaker 14: out and vote for you if you don't deliver. If
Speaker 14: you want to get elected again, deliver for the people.
Speaker 14: We're out here screaming and hollering, begging these people into
Speaker 14: DC to listen to us, and I got like you
Speaker 14: and Mike Lee, I just I cannot wrap my head
Speaker 14: around it, Senator. It's so frustrating. Thank you for letting
Speaker 14: me covetch with you. Senator, we're hitting a brake. If
Speaker 14: you want to stay, you're more than welcome for another segment.
Speaker 3: You absolutely are, But I.
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Speaker 14: not done railing against the Save America Act, the fact
Speaker 14: that we can't get this done, so the floor is your, sir.
Speaker 19: Yeah, Well, it's mind boggling to me how we even
Speaker 19: have Republicans are against this one.
Speaker 5: Set as draconian. You know, let me explain it this way.
Speaker 19: Since I've been here, there's about twelve to fourteen states
Speaker 19: in this country will never win as conservative to Christians, constitutionalists,
Speaker 19: we're not gonna win because they cheat the heck.
Speaker 5: Out of us.
Speaker 19: They're all rigged, and there's over a dozen of them,
Speaker 19: and so those states will never get a congressman, will
Speaker 19: never get a senator, obviously, won't get a governor. But
Speaker 19: the end of the day, if you look at this,
Speaker 19: it's growing a couple two, three, possibly a year. We're
Speaker 19: gonna get to a point we're not gonna have any
Speaker 19: majorities in this country, so we're gonna get run over.
Speaker 19: So that's a reason we have to in the past,
Speaker 19: she probably didn't need federal oversight of these elections, but
Speaker 19: you do now because these people are bound determined to
Speaker 19: cheat at every turn, and so that's the reason we
Speaker 19: need to Save America Act. Now we're gonna have one
Speaker 19: shot at it, I think possibly this weekend, and we're
Speaker 19: going to do reconciliation of trying to get a supplemental
Speaker 19: for the military, which they need about sixty billion dollars,
Speaker 19: and we're going to try to connect it with that.
Speaker 19: Now somehow, someway, we'll have to word it where the
Speaker 19: parliamentarian will keep it in there. Now, this parliamentary is
Speaker 19: a Democrat. She should have been fired when we took over,
Speaker 19: but we didn't do it. It was a I think
Speaker 19: a Harry Reid appointment. But we can fire the parliamentarian
Speaker 19: and if she doesn't go along with this, our leader
Speaker 19: Gone Thune needs to fire immediately because that's what happened.
Speaker 19: Trent Lott fired a parliamentarian when she didn't agree with
Speaker 19: or he didn't agree with him years ago and got
Speaker 19: something across finish line. We better start playing hardball here,
Speaker 19: because we're playing softball. We're playing Oh, we're mister nice guy.
Speaker 19: The hell with that? We have to start playing hardball
Speaker 19: and get to Save America Act across the line. It
Speaker 19: will not make a lot of difference in this election
Speaker 19: coming up, but the years to come. If we don't,
Speaker 19: we're going to lose more and more of these states
Speaker 19: that are going to figure this out and how to cheat,
Speaker 19: how to change balance, do the things they need to do,
Speaker 19: and this country will be gone.
Speaker 15: I actually would disagree with you on this election, Coach Tubbervelt,
Speaker 15: for one very important reason, which I think Andrew you'd agree.
Speaker 15: We've been hearing about this all year, the Save America Act.
Speaker 15: President Trump has been touting it. We've heard Republican senators,
Speaker 15: some of the ones who are now slow playing it
Speaker 15: or saying we can't pass it.
Speaker 3: We're making noise, Oh yeah, we're gonna we're working on this.
Speaker 15: We think we can find a way to get it through.
Speaker 15: And they've just done these delay tactics, delay tactics, delay
Speaker 15: tactics all year. And if they get all the way
Speaker 15: to election day and it's not passed, and everyone decides
Speaker 15: they were lying to us this whole year to murder
Speaker 15: our turnout, they you practically at this point, I think,
Speaker 15: have an obligation to pass it, or the entire base
Speaker 15: is going to feel like they were cheered.
Speaker 14: As an I would say, coach, you know you go
Speaker 14: back to that Thoon clip he's saying, Am I the
Speaker 14: only one in Washington.
Speaker 3: Who can count to fifty?
Speaker 14: No, sir, that is an idiotic thing to say in
Speaker 14: a microphone.
Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, Second of all, just do the
Speaker 3: dang vote. Just do it.
Speaker 14: Go out on the floor and do the talking filibuster
Speaker 14: like Senator Lee has been proposing, and put names on
Speaker 14: the board so we know who to primary next. If
Speaker 14: you're going to vote against this, then I want to know.
Speaker 3: Okay. That's and by the.
Speaker 14: Way, the American people deserve that, they deserve the transparency.
Speaker 14: Go show that you actually are willing to let the
Speaker 14: process play out even if you don't have the votes.
Speaker 14: Stop covering for these cowards and make them put their.
Speaker 3: Name on the line.
Speaker 5: I totally agree with you.
Speaker 19: Now, the last time we put it for a vote
Speaker 19: was in reconciliation back in June. I think Lindsey Graham
Speaker 19: had it as an amendment, and we got forty nine votes.
Speaker 19: We made progress. We made progress. We got forty nine.
Speaker 19: We can add more. But again, at the end of
Speaker 19: the day. It's either got to be a fifty one vote.
Speaker 19: We can't get sixty because none of these idiots on
Speaker 19: the Democrat side are ever going to vote for it.
Speaker 19: But we can get to fifty one through reconciliation. If
Speaker 19: we just press people and let them know how important
Speaker 19: it is. They'll start hearing from people back home. But
Speaker 19: if you don't vote vote on it, like you said,
Speaker 19: then your constituents don't know who's against it.
Speaker 5: And so this weekend will be a big test.
Speaker 19: It'll be a big big ways in this country. I
Speaker 19: would say Friday or Saturday. And Ron Johnson wants a reconciliation.
Speaker 19: He's the new budget chair, taken over for Lindsey Graham.
Speaker 19: He said he'll run the floor, he'll do it the
Speaker 19: right way, and I think we'd have a great chance again.
Speaker 19: We got to have a leader stand up and say
Speaker 19: enoughs enough of this.
Speaker 14: You know, coach, this is the problem, I think, and
Speaker 14: I'm just being.
Speaker 3: Cards on the table.
Speaker 14: I've called for him to be removed now and I
Speaker 14: think he's he's earned every bit of that.
Speaker 3: But here's the deal.
Speaker 14: If you don't actually call the vote, if you don't
Speaker 14: do the things, then you're just a coward that's covering
Speaker 14: up for other cowards. Okay, I don't care if you
Speaker 14: don't have the votes. We want the vote to happen,
Speaker 14: and we want to see who's voting against the interests
Speaker 14: of the base. We want to see who is betraying conservatives.
Speaker 14: Because you're right, time is short. People don't understand what
Speaker 14: we're up against, the demographic landslide that we're facing as
Speaker 14: a country, the fact that we've got distractions in the
Speaker 14: Middle East instead of focusing domestically. This is serious business.
Speaker 14: So we got we got one last last shot at
Speaker 14: this and we got to get it done.
Speaker 3: Failure is not an option. Final minute to you, coach.
Speaker 5: Well, exactly right.
Speaker 19: We've got a lot of problems in this country, a
Speaker 19: lot of them, and we're stopping a lot of the fraud.
Speaker 19: You know, we lose one hundred million dollars an hour,
Speaker 19: three hundred and sixty five days to money that we
Speaker 19: lose to fraud and theft in this country. One hundred million.
Speaker 19: How stupid is that? And that's the reason that we
Speaker 19: need dogs. We needed President Trump to come in. We
Speaker 19: got to cut back on these dancrats who are stealing
Speaker 19: this blind the American people need to wake up and
Speaker 19: get out and vote. My god, folks, this is this
Speaker 19: is this is past serious.
Speaker 22: Uh.
Speaker 19: We only had twenty percent of the people vote in
Speaker 19: Alabama in the primary, twenty percent. We better get upwards
Speaker 19: of fifty sixty seventy percent in some of these states
Speaker 19: or we're gonna get whitewashed. People are gonna run right
Speaker 19: over the top of us, and especially these states that
Speaker 19: are going to jam the ballot boxes with all these
Speaker 19: fake ballots.
Speaker 5: So well, we got to go vote. We gotta go
Speaker 5: vote and take our country back.
Speaker 14: And you saw that last night in Michigan. By the
Speaker 14: way they're stuff in ballot boxes. I mean, some of
Speaker 14: these returns didn't make any sense. The establishment dams were
Speaker 14: doing all their electioneering shenanigans to try and rig it
Speaker 14: for Stevens. It wasn't enough, but it was darn near enough.
Speaker 14: I think the margin's fourteen k right now. I mean,
Speaker 14: it's nothing. Sied's gonna el, Siad's gonna win, but they
Speaker 14: tried like heck to steal it.
Speaker 3: So we have to vote. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 14: The only thing that can overcome it has been too
Speaker 14: big to rig in these states because we haven't fixed crap.
Speaker 5: Couse, the guy's a terrorist. He's a terrorist. Think about that.
Speaker 3: I agree with you. God bless you, Sarah. You're one
Speaker 3: of the good ones. We'll be right back in hour two.
Speaker 17: President Trump wrapping up his two day trip to the
Speaker 17: West Coast with the speech in Las Vegas this afternoon.
Speaker 17: Hi everyone, I'm Terrence Bates. We appreciate you being here
Speaker 17: with us. All of this comes on the heels of
Speaker 17: a visit to Los Angeles on Tuesday. Ravlawn Border correspondent
Speaker 17: Ben Berkram already in Las Vegas this afternoon awaiting the
Speaker 17: President's arrival. Ben, it is good to see you. I
Speaker 17: know you are at a casino and spa there. You
Speaker 17: look like you just got a facial and now you're
Speaker 17: ready to work.
Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny you mentioned that.
Speaker 23: When I came in last night, they offered that do
Speaker 23: you want the SPA treatment, and I said, I'm not
Speaker 23: a SPA guy, so no, Unfortunately I didn't. But we
Speaker 23: are here for Trump's rally. It's all about no taxes
Speaker 23: on tips, no taxes on overtime, no taxes on social
Speaker 23: security in a city that runs on labor, That's what
Speaker 23: today is all about.
Speaker 1: But I will be running later red Rocks.
Speaker 23: It'll be probably one hundred and ten degrees a little
Speaker 23: bit later after the event with President Trump, I'm gonna
Speaker 23: try to get out to the trail so we'll see.
Speaker 17: All right, at least you'll enjoy yourself, even though I'm
Speaker 17: not so sure a run in one hundred and ten
Speaker 17: degree temperatures is enjoyable. But this really is all about
Speaker 17: the economy. And every time President Trump comes to Las Vegas,
Speaker 17: as you said, it is a service industry driven city,
Speaker 17: and so he just kind of doubles down on the
Speaker 17: fact that he's really helped economically with the no tax
Speaker 17: on tips. There's also lots of senior citizens, no tax
Speaker 17: on Social Security, those sorts of things.
Speaker 23: Yeah, that's what this is all about. Now, obviously it's
Speaker 23: about the midterms. Everything comes down to the midterms with
Speaker 23: you know, it's frustrating in particular with one of the
Speaker 23: largest reductions in taxes across the board on Americans. We
Speaker 23: spent almost the entire last two years talking about the
Speaker 23: radical left attack on ICE and trying to blame Ice
Speaker 23: for undoing the damage that Joe Biden did. Now we're
Speaker 23: spending more time talking about Iran. You've got people, you know,
Speaker 23: split on Israel and all this. But the reality is
Speaker 23: from an economic standpoint, what President Trump did with the
Speaker 23: first year in his administration with the largest tax reduction
Speaker 23: in American history, has had significant impacts on just about everybody,
Speaker 23: none more so than the service economy that you have
Speaker 23: here in Las Vegas. And so that's the priority of today.
Speaker 23: And then tying it back to everything else. I've got
Speaker 23: my eyes had always have that with me as well,
Speaker 23: So it'll tie to that as well, because illegal aliens
Speaker 23: also drive down the economy, drive down wages, drive up
Speaker 23: the cost of goods. All of it will tie together.
Speaker 23: And you know what President Trump will talk about the
Speaker 23: last two years of the economy and what they plan,
Speaker 23: assuming we win the House and the Senate in the midterms,
Speaker 23: we'll do in the next two.
Speaker 17: Years, assuming we win. That's a critical phrase. And that's
Speaker 17: also part of why President Trump was in California yesterday
Speaker 17: to try to continue to plant that Republican flag in California, which,
Speaker 17: of course, as we know, has historically gone to the left.
Speaker 23: Yeah, and unfortunately, until we pass the Save Act, Democrats
Speaker 23: have perfected fraud in states like California, we left California
Speaker 23: in particular because you basically have a state run by
Speaker 23: corrupt leftist politicians who openly cheat and don't hide it.
Speaker 23: And we don't even have the guts on the Republican
Speaker 23: side because of Senator Senate Leader Thun to pass the
Speaker 23: Save Act. Until we pass the Save Act, until we
Speaker 23: actually require people have voter ID vote in person on
Speaker 23: election day and we actually get the votes counted on
Speaker 23: election day, states like California are really a lost cause.
Speaker 23: But that's really it's a twofold approach. It's what can
Speaker 23: we do for the economy. How do we win the
Speaker 23: red states? We obviously had the redistricting in a lot
Speaker 23: of the red states to try to counteract the redistricting
Speaker 23: in the blue states. If we don't get this, if
Speaker 23: we get the Save Act passed, there's no doubt in
Speaker 23: my mind Republicans win sweep the House and the Senate
Speaker 23: in major numbers if we don't get it passed. I
Speaker 23: am very very concerned.
Speaker 17: Hey, Ben, I'm looking at that room behind you. I'm
Speaker 17: assuming that's where the President will speak. I don't know
Speaker 17: if you've had a chance to be inside yet, or
Speaker 17: if doors are even open. Give us an idea of
Speaker 17: what the atmosphere is like there. If it's already a
Speaker 17: pack room like we've seen and other stops, the President's
Speaker 17: made kind of run that downforce real quick.
Speaker 23: Why know, if you've been seeing me wipe my face
Speaker 23: this whole time, it's already hot in the building's red rocks.
Speaker 23: You know, it's a beautiful casino here, red rocks. And yeah,
Speaker 23: we got folks from all over mostly right now, what
Speaker 23: you have is media. What's the lineup to come in
Speaker 23: for the general ad mission? And VIPs is downstairs. They'll
Speaker 23: be coming in. The event starts after one o'clock, so
Speaker 23: I don't know exactly what time the doors open, but
Speaker 23: the general mission are waiting downstairs right now. We haven't
Speaker 23: been let back in as media, but that's supposed to
Speaker 23: happen anytime. And then we'll get in. We'll start doing
Speaker 23: some interviews. My friend Wayne Allen Root, and a host
Speaker 23: on Real America's Voice, Wayne Allen Root, friend of President
Speaker 23: Trump's as well, will be here. We'll be talking to
Speaker 23: him and his beautiful wife, Cindy, and then all of
Speaker 23: the patriots MAGA patriots from around the Las Vegas area
Speaker 23: that'll be joining us. A little bit later.
Speaker 17: All right, Ben, we'll talk to you later on then
Speaker 17: as well. Go ahead and get your facial and I'll
Speaker 17: talk to you in a little bit. Ben berkeram reporting
Speaker 17: for US live on the ground there in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back.
Speaker 14: It's hour two, and I'm very excited about this next
Speaker 14: conversation because everything is about.
Speaker 3: The economy right now on social media. The whole debate.
Speaker 3: I accidentally sparked another one about burritos. Blake's been weighing in.
Speaker 3: He he likes cheap burritos, but that's fine. I don't
Speaker 3: know the last time I've actually had just a burrito.
Speaker 3: We're gonna do. You're gonna have one this week. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be a whole thing.
Speaker 14: But here to help us discuss is David Belize. He's
Speaker 14: the pastor and director of Patriot Mobile Faith. You can
Speaker 14: find him on Exit Faith Mobilized. He does a lot
Speaker 14: of great content and he's got just a really important
Speaker 14: pective on this whole debate.
Speaker 3: So, Pastor, welcome to the show.
Speaker 14: It's great to have you, and I'm excited to get
Speaker 14: into this because the clip that started this whole kind
Speaker 14: of debate actually was one with our friend Jack Pisobic.
Speaker 3: It was actually a back and forth.
Speaker 14: I mean, people are losing this, you know that didn't
Speaker 14: like what Jack had to say, Like, you know, we
Speaker 14: had Mikey McCoy arguing with him on the clip. But anyways,
Speaker 14: we'll play the clip and then we'll get your reaction
Speaker 14: on the other side.
Speaker 3: Top fifteen.
Speaker 15: He should we are capitalists, like we are fundamentally pro
Speaker 15: somebody spending their wealth how they want to spend their wealth.
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think we should.
Speaker 15: I don't think we should center our our country around
Speaker 15: capital I think that's I think that's not Christian.
Speaker 3: All right, pastor your reaction to that now infamous clip.
Speaker 22: Yeah, and then I want to talk about the burritos
Speaker 22: because that's crucial as well.
Speaker 5: Yes it is.
Speaker 22: But yeah, so I saw this clip, and you know,
Speaker 22: the first thought that I had, you know, labeling I'm
Speaker 22: not a capitalist, I don't know what that means. You know,
Speaker 22: maybe it's because we're saying I'm a Christian first, you know,
Speaker 22: I can understand it. Yeah, and then he he said,
Speaker 22: I don't think we should center our country around capitalism.
Speaker 22: And again, I like to give grace first. I'm a pastor.
Speaker 22: I need grace. We all need grace. Maybe he's saying
Speaker 22: I want to center the country around biblical values and morality. Hey,
Speaker 22: that's great too. I agree with that. We don't want
Speaker 22: to center around a system. We don't want to center
Speaker 22: it around democracy, we don't want to center it around capitalism.
Speaker 22: We want to center it on the biblical morality, the
Speaker 22: biblical foundation that we're endowed by our creator. Our rights
Speaker 22: are given by God. The government only helps enforce those rights,
Speaker 22: protect those rights, not give those rights. However, I think
Speaker 22: this plays into just this idea that we see on
Speaker 22: social media about capitalism and socialism, and capitalism is sometimes
Speaker 22: just portrayed as greed. But here's how I always see
Speaker 22: really the value statement. Capitalism values freedom, and that is
Speaker 22: why it is not a perfect system. It's the best
Speaker 22: system that we've found economically because it values liberty, it
Speaker 22: values self determination. It values that you get to spend
Speaker 22: your own money, and you get to be generous if
Speaker 22: you choose so, because generosity has to be a choice.
Speaker 22: The other option is socialism, which values fairness, and the
Speaker 22: government wants to take you know, sees your capital and
Speaker 22: then they give it out. That's not generosity because you
Speaker 22: can't be generous with someone else's finances, with someone else's money,
Speaker 22: And so we have to be aware of what the
Speaker 22: foundation should be biblical morality, because that provides the guard
Speaker 22: rails for capitalism to succeed. Why would capitalism succeed because
Speaker 22: you have biblical guard rails? Then you know, the Conservative
Speaker 22: party historically is way more generous. Why because they have
Speaker 22: the freedom to be general. The downside of capitalism is,
Speaker 22: if left unchecked, it will develop greed, it will develop selfishness,
Speaker 22: a love for money. The Bible has a lot to
Speaker 22: say about that. But the answer to that is not, well,
Speaker 22: then let's just get rid of capitalism, because what you're
Speaker 22: saying is let's get rid of the freedom, let's get
Speaker 22: rid of the choice.
Speaker 1: Well, God didn't do that.
Speaker 22: God didn't say, hey, Adam and Eve, you're done making
Speaker 22: choices robots now, No, he said. Essentially, God says, I
Speaker 22: am going to risk what is on the other side
Speaker 22: of giving freedom, which is they could use that freedom
Speaker 22: to be generous or.
Speaker 1: To be selfish. But that's the risk.
Speaker 22: So capitalism is the most biblical economic system that we
Speaker 22: have because it values freedom and choice, which is something
Speaker 22: the Bible has a lot to say about and stewardship
Speaker 22: and generosity. It's not the perfect system. It reminds me
Speaker 22: of the quote about democracy. Democracy is the worst form
Speaker 22: of government except for all the other forms. So we're
Speaker 22: not looking for a perfect system. We're looking for the
Speaker 22: most biblical system to run economics in a nation, and
Speaker 22: historically speaking and biblically speaking, it's been capitalism. It doesn't
Speaker 22: mean it's perfect. Of course, it can lead to greed
Speaker 22: and selfishness, but that's the that's the the you know,
Speaker 22: the risk of freedom.
Speaker 15: I think that's that's so correct, and I think you
Speaker 15: want to take the long view here. You mentioned that
Speaker 15: capitalism has given America the wealth to be generous, and
Speaker 15: I think it's worth reminding people how unusual America is
Speaker 15: in that regard that we are a nation of givers.
Speaker 3: In our own communities and around the world.
Speaker 15: Basically, there are almost entire countries that are reliant on
Speaker 15: the charitable giving of Americans. That America is the country
Speaker 15: that produces missionary far more missionaries than any other country
Speaker 15: come out of America to go around the world. And
Speaker 15: I think that's directly linked to our free market system,
Speaker 15: even our way of our very energetic church environment. The
Speaker 15: way that there is so many different competing Protestant churches
Speaker 15: Catholic church is that there were very on the ball religiously,
Speaker 15: and I think that's actually a side effect of having
Speaker 15: this capitalist worldview that if you don't like the way
Speaker 15: something works, you can go and make your own version
Speaker 15: of it. Well, and what we see in socialist countries
Speaker 15: is everyone instead they lose the capacity to do that.
Speaker 15: It's always the state should come in and bail me out,
Speaker 15: the state should decide this. I don't have the ability
Speaker 15: to decide for myself, and I eventually you don't want
Speaker 15: to decide for yourself anymore.
Speaker 14: To the extent that it needs clarification because I think
Speaker 14: there was some consternation about that clip, like what does
Speaker 14: TPUSA Standford, No, no, no, we are pure capitalists, like
Speaker 14: in the sense that we are very pro capitalism with guardrails,
Speaker 14: with biblical guardrails. We're not pro greed, we're not pro materialism,
Speaker 14: we're not pro worshiping at the altar of you know, having.
Speaker 3: Billions of dollars or anything like that.
Speaker 14: You know, Charlie would often say that capitalism is the
Speaker 14: most proven, moral and effective economic system in the world,
Speaker 14: and you know, you said it's the most we've found,
Speaker 14: the best we've found. Well, it's kind of actually inverted
Speaker 14: that it found us. In many ways, it's kind of
Speaker 14: a natural outflow of the human spirit of the way
Speaker 14: we are wired to freely exchange goods and services. And
Speaker 14: and so there's no hopefully there's no lack of clarity
Speaker 14: on that front. And so but I love the what
Speaker 14: what you're bringing in what so much of our The
Speaker 14: solution to our problems in this country is not more government.
Speaker 3: It's we need to be better people.
Speaker 14: We need to we need to cry out to the
Speaker 14: Lord to make our country great. From a character standpoint,
Speaker 14: from a faith standpoint, that's the answer to so many
Speaker 14: of our problems. And when we invite government in it usually,
Speaker 14: you know, in Reagan's famous words, I'm not a huge
Speaker 14: Reagan quoter all the time, but you know, the the
Speaker 14: the scariest words in the English language is I'm I'm
Speaker 14: from the government and I'm here to help.
Speaker 3: Final minute in this segment to you.
Speaker 22: Yeah, No, I think it's I think it's really important.
Speaker 22: And I think when we understand the the number one
Speaker 22: value of these two systems capitalism values freedom, It values liberty,
Speaker 22: and that makes sense. Why America has has been a
Speaker 22: capitalist nation is because what was the founding principle life,
Speaker 22: liberty and the pursuit of happiness or John Locke, life,
Speaker 22: liberty and property. So it's what it's saying is that's
Speaker 22: a value statement. Number one thing is life, and then
Speaker 22: the other two are my personal happiness, my self determination,
Speaker 22: and my liberty. The government can't take those away from me,
Speaker 22: and they didn't give them to me. And you ask
Speaker 22: any you know person that values socialism. They value fairness. Hey,
Speaker 22: that's great. My kids love fairness too. But you know
Speaker 22: when they realize fairness is not the greatest value is
Speaker 22: when you go to a school and you say, hey,
Speaker 22: equal opportunity, right, that fair? Yeah, that's fair, equal opportunity
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Speaker 1: No, Well, they have students like that's fair.
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Speaker 3: So you are your pastor and director of Patriot Mobile. Faith.
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Speaker 3: I want to talk about this distinction.
Speaker 14: Because I have talked to Jack about what he meant
Speaker 14: by that, and I'm assuming we're going to get to
Speaker 14: it in Thought Crime this week as well, which is
Speaker 14: our Thursday streaming show, you know. So for him, he
Speaker 14: was saying, yeah, I'm a national populist which incorporates capitalism, right,
Speaker 14: but it's sort of a way of saying, we're going
Speaker 14: to apply certain sensible regulations to make sure that we're
Speaker 14: directing and incentivizing capital in the country in ways that
Speaker 14: benefit the nation.
Speaker 3: Right, So, as opposed.
Speaker 14: To offshoring and hollowing out our industrial base and shipping
Speaker 14: all the jobs off to China in exchange for rubber
Speaker 14: trinkets that's going to end up in the trash some day,
Speaker 14: We're actually going to incentivize through tax code regulation, that
Speaker 14: companies invest here, that they hire American, that they do
Speaker 14: things that are good for the American population.
Speaker 3: So, you know, Jack wrote a whole book.
Speaker 14: Hitting communism and attacking communism by no means. I think
Speaker 14: it would be a very unfair repretation of his comments
Speaker 14: to say that he was somehow against capitalism. But I
Speaker 14: do think that this is a worthwhile debate to have,
Speaker 14: and I think we're going to be having it ahead
Speaker 14: of twenty twenty eight about the right way to talk
Speaker 14: about capitalism. And my concern, and then the flor will
Speaker 14: be yours, is that if we don't do this, young
Speaker 14: people are so inundated by this pro socialism message that
Speaker 14: they're going to say, well, I don't want the old
Speaker 14: way as it's been, and this is a way to
Speaker 14: sort of filter that message and thread the needle and say, hey,
Speaker 14: we're hearing your concerns that the middle class, working class
Speaker 14: is getting hammered in some ways, especially when it comes
Speaker 14: to burritos and affordability.
Speaker 3: But we're not ditching capitalism your thoughts.
Speaker 22: Yeah, I think when it gets down into the nitty gritty,
Speaker 22: which is one of the reasons why you know, clipping
Speaker 22: up something can be so destructive because you take something
Speaker 22: out of context.
Speaker 1: Well, we do that with scripture too.
Speaker 22: We take one verse out of context and we can
Speaker 22: make it say whatever we want. And so I think
Speaker 22: what we have to constantly go back to, unfortunately, is
Speaker 22: defining terms.
Speaker 1: What do you mean when you say capitalists? And if
Speaker 1: someone says, oh, you know, I'm greedy, you know, money hungry, you're.
Speaker 22: Like, Okay, that's not what I mean by capitalism. I
Speaker 22: mean when capitalism, I mean the economic structure in which
Speaker 22: we value freedom of exchange, freedom of movement, you know, generosity,
Speaker 22: all those things, liberty, And so we have to we
Speaker 22: have to define those terms and then, juxtaposed to the
Speaker 22: other options when when you're talking about you know, populism,
Speaker 22: then now we're we're, like you said, threading a needle. Okay,
Speaker 22: what do we mean by that? It's not anti capitalism,
Speaker 22: but we're wanting to benefit our nation first. Well that's great,
Speaker 22: and the America First movement has then taken that to mean, okay,
Speaker 22: America first, And now we have to define do we
Speaker 22: mean America first or America only? Because if we have
Speaker 22: this biblical foundation that we're talking about, the Bible has
Speaker 22: a lot to say about the Church caring for orphans
Speaker 22: and widows, the good Samaritan caring for your neighbor. And
Speaker 22: so as long as we mean America first, like the
Speaker 22: analogy often given of the oxygen mask coming down on
Speaker 22: the airplane and putting yours on first, because if I'm incapacitated,
Speaker 22: I can't.
Speaker 1: Help my neighbor. I totally agree with that.
Speaker 22: But if we're saying America only, that we shouldn't be
Speaker 22: involved anywhere outside of our own borders, well that's that's
Speaker 22: taking away the biblical principle of generosity and kindness and
Speaker 22: loving your neighbor. So that's I kind of always find
Speaker 22: myself having to go back to redefining terms that have
Speaker 22: been outlandishly used in the in personified to mean one
Speaker 22: small definition capitalism means greed or whatever it is.
Speaker 14: Yeah, and David, I have a perfect example of this that,
Speaker 14: you know, pure unfettered capitalism. It can lead to excesses,
Speaker 14: It can lead to bubbles, it can lead to monopolies.
Speaker 14: This is why conservatives are re examining the legacy of
Speaker 14: somebody like Teddy Roosevelt, right, famous trustbuster. He believed that
Speaker 14: the monopolies that had developed during the Gilded Age had
Speaker 14: basically resulted in you know, I guess, excessive prices for consumers,
Speaker 14: excessive influence among a very elite oligarchy that had developed,
Speaker 14: whether that be economic influence or political influence. And so
Speaker 14: he broke up some of those companies and there, you know,
Speaker 14: there are benefits that could be had from those types
Speaker 14: of things. Now, another limit that we put on capital
Speaker 14: is immigration. Right, big businesses would love to flood the
Speaker 14: nation with unfettered mass migration of Third worlders and cheap
Speaker 14: slave labor, and we have rejected that at the ballot
Speaker 14: box when we elected President Trump. Now that doesn't mean
Speaker 14: that you have to be an absolutist on any of
Speaker 14: those things, but it does mean that obviously there are
Speaker 14: sensible things that you can do to regulate or incentivize
Speaker 14: the movement of capital to best suit your national interests.
Speaker 15: And I think I think it's actually worth emphasizing that
Speaker 15: point that a friend of mine pointed out. I've talking
Speaker 15: to him about this, and he says, one of the
Speaker 15: better ways if you want to defend capitalism is just
Speaker 15: really defend against all the other stuff they want. Because
Speaker 15: so many of the people who are complaining about capitalism,
Speaker 15: they're actually totally in league with them on let's bring
Speaker 15: in the entire third world here, so they'll actually concede
Speaker 15: them that point and say, oh, actually, yeah, let's give
Speaker 15: big business what they want. Endless migrant labor, endless slave labor,
Speaker 15: endless like literally illegal immigrants. They actually just want to
Speaker 15: crash America, blow it up, and we should be pointing
Speaker 15: that out and fighting against that. And you really just
Speaker 15: get I think I think you get capitalism almost as
Speaker 15: a side effect of it. You don't need to say
Speaker 15: we're shilling for business. You just say we're rejecting all
Speaker 15: of these ideas that are clearly motivated by people who
Speaker 15: hate America and want to burn it down.
Speaker 14: Final thirty seconds to you, Pastor, I love to think
Speaker 14: guarding capitalism with a Christian worldview.
Speaker 3: But yeah, thirty seconds to you.
Speaker 22: Yeah, I just think we're, as believers, were called to
Speaker 22: hold the tension between oftentimes two incredibly healthy extremes, and
Speaker 22: media often wants to push to the extremes. And we
Speaker 22: find Jesus often holding at tension between compassion and truth
Speaker 22: and not having to sacrifice one for the other. And
Speaker 22: I think we can do that with almost every debate.
Speaker 22: What's the tension here because we're not going to go
Speaker 22: to these extremes. It's actually more nuanced. But as a
Speaker 22: comedian said, the new n word is nuanced. We don't
Speaker 22: want to talk about it, and it's like, no, we
Speaker 22: need to talk about.
Speaker 14: The pastor Ecclesiastes seven eighteen. Whoever fears God will avoid
Speaker 14: all extremes. God bless you.
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 14: We're going to turn our attention to Daylight Savings Times
Speaker 14: next night.
Speaker 17: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm
Speaker 17: Terrence Bates. Well, it's finally settled Michigan's closely watched Democrat
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Speaker 17: The primary has attracted national attention because it represents the
Speaker 17: internal fight in the Democrat Party between establishment wing of
Speaker 17: the party and the progressive wing. Lsied will face Republican
Speaker 17: Mike Rodgers in November's general election. The outcome of that
Speaker 17: race could be critical when it comes to the balance
Speaker 17: of power in the US Senate. New this morning, our
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Speaker 17: a Russian asset for the firing of Komi, that reporting
Speaker 17: being attributed to declassified memos. The bureau's criminal probe into
Speaker 17: the president reportedly started in May of twenty seventeen. The
Speaker 17: allegations against the then forty fifth President of the United
Speaker 17: States were raised despite the FBI's own evidence that overwhelmingly
Speaker 17: showed no collusion with the Kremlin, and Todd Blanche's Justice
Speaker 17: Department and the Oathkeepers are celebrating a January sixth victory
Speaker 17: many years in the making. This morning, the seditious conspiracy
Speaker 17: cases and convictions against Oathkeepers founder Stuart Rhodes and seven
Speaker 17: other members of the group are vacated. A judge made
Speaker 17: that ruling on Tuesday after the Trump Justice Department requested
Speaker 17: that the courts drop the case and erase those convictions.
Speaker 17: It's all part of the administration's attempt to end all
Speaker 17: remaining January sixth prosecutions. In his fifteen page ruling, US
Speaker 17: District Judge Ameet Meta criticized the government's decision, saying that
Speaker 17: it diminishes the gravity of that day. However, he reversed
Speaker 17: the previous rulings in the case, saying that under Supreme
Speaker 17: Court precedent, judges must defer to the executive branches charging decisions.
Speaker 17: That's a great check off your headlines. As always, we
Speaker 17: appreciate you being here with us. Now let's get you
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Speaker 14: All right, welcome back everybody to talk about daylight saving
Speaker 14: time or standard time. We're gonna have that debate. It's
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Speaker 14: I'm gonna give your bio here. You're the creator of
Speaker 14: the my Circadian app. You're board certified and applied quantum
Speaker 14: biology by the American Naturopathic Medical Board. You've spent over
Speaker 14: fifteen years of working one on one with clients to
Speaker 14: optimize nutrition, lifestyle and mindset. Your goal is to shift
Speaker 14: the way we think about circadian rhythms, health, nutrition, and
Speaker 14: light so we can better integrate those into our life.
Speaker 14: And doesn't matter what stage life or anything like that.
Speaker 14: So we're honored to have you. You come very highly
Speaker 14: recommended by Alex Clark, who's our official MAHA expert around here.
Speaker 3: So it's great to have you.
Speaker 8: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 14: Yes, absolutely so, Trump. President Trump wants permanent daylight saving time.
Speaker 14: Blake wants permanent standard time. What is the right answer.
Speaker 24: I mean, the American Academy of Sleep Medicine and every
Speaker 24: single Circadian scientist that I have ever spoken with is
Speaker 24: on the time of permanent standard time. That's the one
Speaker 24: that aligned with our biological clock. We have mountains of
Speaker 24: evidence to show how important it is for anxiety, depression, obesity.
Speaker 8: Heart health.
Speaker 24: I mean, we have the research available and I have
Speaker 24: I saw the I guess it was a statement Trump
Speaker 24: put out yesterday that Riley was kind enough to send
Speaker 24: me and kind of have looked through a lot of that,
Speaker 24: and I have a lot of thoughts on.
Speaker 8: Some of the things you said.
Speaker 24: There's some half truths in there. But yeah, let's on
Speaker 24: a team permanent standard You're you and Lake.
Speaker 3: Are on the same team.
Speaker 14: So that the means God's time man out and I
Speaker 14: have to play Devil's advocate. I have to play at
Speaker 14: devil's advocate here. So this is the quote from Trump.
Speaker 14: For many years, the vast majority of Americans have asked
Speaker 14: to make daylight savings time permanent, but no administration has
Speaker 14: been able to get it done until now. I'm proud
Speaker 14: to announce the House of Representatives has passed the bill
Speaker 14: and it has now gone to the Senate for final approval.
Speaker 14: People are sick and tired of having to change their clocks.
Speaker 3: Twice a year. This we agree with, right that the
Speaker 3: whole I do not want.
Speaker 8: To change the clocks anymore. We agree with that.
Speaker 14: Yeah, he says it's foolish, inconvenient in some cases, very
Speaker 14: costly for cities and states with watch towers and hard
Speaker 14: to reach places.
Speaker 3: It costs millions of dollars.
Speaker 14: A recent case was made that it is also bad
Speaker 14: for your health and the anxiety it creates. Leading medical, crime,
Speaker 14: and economic studies have shown that ceasing the bi annual
Speaker 14: time change, giving us one extra hour of natural sunlight
Speaker 14: in the evenings will help decrease robbery and murder rates,
Speaker 14: reduce car accidents, et cetera, et cetera. So okay, Devil's
Speaker 14: advocate here. So Danny on our team grew up in
Speaker 14: the Upper Midwest. He says that on standard time in
Speaker 14: the winter, I believe I'm getting this right. Standard time
Speaker 14: in the winter. It was based its like dark all
Speaker 14: all morning long?
Speaker 3: Or is that? Am I getting that right?
Speaker 15: This is what's so confusing about So it's because you're
Speaker 15: in the upper Midwest, the days are shorter, and when
Speaker 15: you're on standard time, the sun is also going down
Speaker 15: earlier in the evening.
Speaker 14: Yeah, he basically doesn't he doesn't want more dark at
Speaker 14: a certain time. I'm going to find his note here,
Speaker 14: but he was he's very very open to this permanent daylight.
Speaker 15: Saving We're on permanent daylight saving time. The sun going
Speaker 15: to rise very late and very late.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 14: Right, so this okay, So here here's all. Let me
Speaker 14: let me reboot. There is a robbery issue. So when
Speaker 14: you have it light later at night, there is data
Speaker 14: to indicate that robberies decrease potentially as much as like
Speaker 14: twenty five percent. So have you seen any of that
Speaker 14: data and do you agree or disagree.
Speaker 8: I've seen the data.
Speaker 24: It's anywhere from seven percent to twenty seven percent. So
Speaker 24: I'm definitely not going to refute that data. I don't
Speaker 24: want to have anyone in.
Speaker 8: Fact check me. That's that's data.
Speaker 24: However, this is basically going from November to February and
Speaker 24: it's from the hours of five pm to eight pm,
Speaker 24: and it's a it's a real trade off. What we
Speaker 24: do have is we tried this in nineteen seventy four
Speaker 24: and within about two months the approval rate went from
Speaker 24: seventy nine percent down to forty two percent because there
Speaker 24: were children being killed at bus stops and people hate
Speaker 24: it so much.
Speaker 8: They hated the dark mornings.
Speaker 24: They thought they wanted it because it's kind of the
Speaker 24: same thing happening again. Everyone, we're going to have this
Speaker 24: extra hour and we're not really getting anything extra. We
Speaker 24: still have to deal with winter, which is a shorter
Speaker 24: photo period. You know, it's that's not being talked about.
Speaker 24: And so what we're taking off the table is the
Speaker 24: ability for millions of people to actually get the morning
Speaker 24: light signal, which, as I've said, has robust data around
Speaker 24: it that they need in order to avoid a lot
Speaker 24: of health problems.
Speaker 3: This is okay.
Speaker 14: So I did have it backwards so on standard time.
Speaker 14: If you do permanent standard time, it will get light
Speaker 14: earlier during those winter months.
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, it'll see how it's been.
Speaker 24: It'll just be how it's been because what we are
Speaker 24: in right now is DST right, and then if the
Speaker 24: clocks change. If we just continue with current the way
Speaker 24: things are, then we'll do that falling back thing and
Speaker 24: then in the spring will spring forward. And it's when
Speaker 24: Trump is saying there's health issues associated with the t
Speaker 24: time change, He's correct, but that is because we strip
Speaker 24: away that hour and spring. That's where we see the
Speaker 24: increase in heart attack and stroke, cardiac events, mental health episodes,
Speaker 24: car accidents, all of those things. So that is correct,
Speaker 24: but that is because we're changing the time and taking
Speaker 24: an hour from people.
Speaker 14: Right, So if we just kept one or the other,
Speaker 14: we'd probably deal with some of these issues.
Speaker 8: But we would love to just keep one right, just right.
Speaker 14: But your argument is that that morning sun is really
Speaker 14: really important for health outcomes. So if you go to
Speaker 14: stage time, it gets light a little bit earlier. So
Speaker 14: explain why that's so important. So you go, I've heard
Speaker 14: people tell me that when it in the morning, you've
Speaker 14: got to sort of expose your body to natural sunlight
Speaker 14: to sort of kick your body into gear.
Speaker 24: What is that about, Well, you have a masterclock in
Speaker 24: your brain that is essentially primarily signaled by light. It's
Speaker 24: called the super chismatic nucleus. And when the eyes get
Speaker 24: this signal from light. It signals every single sell and
Speaker 24: organ system in your body, which also runs on a
Speaker 24: circadian clock, which is why in my practice I have
Speaker 24: people reversing autoimmune conditions getting pregnant after failed fertility treatments.
Speaker 24: I'm mean, I have a huge bank of people who
Speaker 24: have reversed health issues by simply doing this practice of
Speaker 24: going outside in the morning. So we like I said
Speaker 24: that the circadian research is robust here, and the argument
Speaker 24: I get because I've spoken out on this a little
Speaker 24: bit on social media and gotten this is one topic.
Speaker 8: Whenever I talk about it online, people get so angry.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's amazing, it's amazing.
Speaker 14: Correct, the camps are entrenched. The camps are firmly entrenched.
Speaker 14: You're right, you're you're waiting into perilous waters.
Speaker 8: Well, when you mess with people's time, you're messing with
Speaker 8: their life. It's very personal to them. I just think
Speaker 8: that we're there.
Speaker 24: They don't really understand how this works, because it's like
Speaker 24: I've heard this old Indian proverb that says you're taking
Speaker 24: a blanket and chopping, you know, paring off the top
Speaker 24: part of it and trying to sew it onto the
Speaker 24: bottom and say acting like it's better, it's not because
Speaker 24: if you don't get that signal in your eyes in
Speaker 24: the morning, if you don't get enough brightness, you're not
Speaker 24: clearing residual melotone in you are not resetting those circadian
Speaker 24: clocks that influence your appetite, regulation, mood, all of those
Speaker 24: things need that bright morning signal. So you might get
Speaker 24: this extra hour, but guess what, You're going to feel
Speaker 24: kind of depressed and be it risk for obesity lethargy
Speaker 24: because you never got that proper wake up signal. That Again,
Speaker 24: the circadian science is pretty robust around this topic.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the sunrise.
Speaker 15: I just I'm plugging in sunrise in different cities on
Speaker 15: January first.
Speaker 3: Right now and then at an hour. If we were.
Speaker 15: Imagining permanent daylight savings time, it would be you wouldn't
Speaker 15: have the sun come up in Minneapolis until about nine
Speaker 15: AM if we were on permanent daylight savings time. On
Speaker 15: this is January first, so one of the shorter days
Speaker 15: of the year, about nine in Detroit. I check to Bismarck,
Speaker 15: North Dakota, so that's at the far western edge of
Speaker 15: the center time nine to thirty A nine to thirty
Speaker 15: sunrise there if we had permanent daylight savings time right now,
Speaker 15: it's happening in the eight o'clock.
Speaker 3: Out, so people are already at work and there's no
Speaker 3: sun and it's so bad. One of the things that
Speaker 3: really makes this extreme.
Speaker 15: School starts so early because they want to make it
Speaker 15: so parents can take their kids to school and then
Speaker 15: go in. So you'll have elementary kids getting up two
Speaker 15: three hours before sunrise in these places so they can
Speaker 15: go to school.
Speaker 14: Yeah, the dark at reschool at eight o'clock eight thirty,
Speaker 14: the sun doesn't rise for another hour and a half.
Speaker 14: That's that is wild to think about. That's on permanent
Speaker 14: daylight savings. Yes, yeah, what does that do for children?
Speaker 24: It's terrible for children. I mean, children need the sunlight signal.
Speaker 24: It's so incredibly important for their hormones, for their brain.
Speaker 24: The number one treatment for anxiety and depression is bright
Speaker 24: light therapy upon waking.
Speaker 8: So that is very established research.
Speaker 24: And so we already have a depression and anxiety and
Speaker 24: mental health crisis going on with our children due to
Speaker 24: so many factors.
Speaker 8: I'm sure we would agree on. I've got two kids myself.
Speaker 24: And now we're going to strip away the ability for
Speaker 24: them to get that bright light signal, which could potentially
Speaker 24: offset some of the negative impact of what they're already.
Speaker 8: Up against a as a you know, as a generation.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, it just feels like we're making the
Speaker 14: right choice in the sense that we're trying to get
Speaker 14: rid of this pesky clock change, which seems I mean,
Speaker 14: it seems like everybody's basically against that. And I would
Speaker 14: love to hear your thoughts out in the audience. Send
Speaker 14: us an email Freedom at Charliekirk dot com if you
Speaker 14: have any questions as well. We're gonna have a whole
Speaker 14: nother segment to answer those. But what do you what
Speaker 14: do you think you'd prefer permanent daylight saving time or
Speaker 14: permanent standard time, A little lighter in the morning or
Speaker 14: a little lighter at night, that's the question. Sounds like
Speaker 14: we need that let light signal early in the morning,
Speaker 14: which is something I've heard about and I actually have
Speaker 14: tried it and just stood out there and tried to
Speaker 14: get sun in the morning. You do kind of figure
Speaker 14: I feel revived in an awake a little bit faster.
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Speaker 14: All right, welcome back, everybody. We are joined by Sarah Kleiner.
Speaker 14: She is the creator of my Circadian app. What do
Speaker 14: you tell us about your my circadian app.
Speaker 3: Sarah.
Speaker 24: I've been coaching people in this circadian health space for
Speaker 24: the last number of years after actually having my own
Speaker 24: miracle baby in my mid forties and he's three now,
Speaker 24: so I'm really passionate about this. Yeah, thank you, awesome
Speaker 24: little boy, and Circadian lifestyle helped make that possible. And
Speaker 24: so I wanted an app that helped people understand when
Speaker 24: sunrise happened for them.
Speaker 8: When UVA, which we.
Speaker 24: Were talking a little bit about this morning light UVA
Speaker 24: is when you're making sarahtonin, dopamine, beta endorphin, These appetite
Speaker 24: hormones all come online, and I wanted them to understand
Speaker 24: when that was as well as when they could make
Speaker 24: vitamin D because you can't make it year. And then
Speaker 24: measure lux, which is this most well studied measurement of light.
Speaker 24: The app has a lux meter in it. You want
Speaker 24: to get a ten thousand lux threshold in the morning,
Speaker 24: and you want to keep your lux below ten at
Speaker 24: night the three hours leading up to bed and zero
Speaker 24: in your bedroom, so you can measure that and that's
Speaker 24: going to really help you keep your circadian rhythms dialed
Speaker 24: in and you kind of have it there in your pocket.
Speaker 3: Oh that's great. So why would it affect fertility?
Speaker 24: I'm just curious, oh man, Because, like I said, every
Speaker 24: single cell and organ system in your body is impacted
Speaker 24: by the signal of light. Your hormones run on a
Speaker 24: circadian rhythm, and that morning sunlight signal is incredibly important
Speaker 24: for what we call the HPA axis, which is going
Speaker 24: to signal your master hormone pregnant alone to talk to
Speaker 24: the other sex hormones. So if you're not making these hormones,
Speaker 24: especially in the morning, you're going to deal with fertility issues.
Speaker 24: And then we have the issue at night. It was
Speaker 24: women used to actually cycle with the moon. We have
Speaker 24: some really interesting data that came out in around twenty
Speaker 24: ten that showed women stopped cycling. Actually that the research
Speaker 24: came out in twenty twenty two. It was done in
Speaker 24: twenty ten that showed women cycled with the moon up
Speaker 24: until that time. What happened in twenty ten we all
Speaker 24: got smartphones and so women fell out of sync. Their
Speaker 24: menstrual cycles became irregular in twenty ten because of this artificial.
Speaker 8: Light at night issue that we all have.
Speaker 3: Now, So wait wait, wait, wait, hold on, So.
Speaker 15: Smartphones broke women's menstrual cycles.
Speaker 8: It's a thing.
Speaker 3: That's it's a thing.
Speaker 8: It's that there have been books written on.
Speaker 3: This topic of kidding.
Speaker 14: Wait, so just because women are like scrolling Instagram at
Speaker 14: night that broke their cycles.
Speaker 24: I have women reverse hot flashes when I get them
Speaker 24: to get off the dank phone at night.
Speaker 3: So time style stuff.
Speaker 14: If a woman wants to get pregnant and she just
Speaker 14: wants to make sure everything's you know, her circadian rhythms
Speaker 14: are right, what time do you recommend stop you stopping
Speaker 14: the scrolling.
Speaker 24: I mean, the science is ten lucks and below the
Speaker 24: three hours leading up to bedtime.
Speaker 14: So you get more than ten lucks off your cell
Speaker 14: phone screen, even if you turn it all the way
Speaker 14: dark and.
Speaker 8: You get the blue light. Yeah, you get blue light.
Speaker 24: You get that lux I mean, and that is enough
Speaker 24: to keep the brain making cortisol and restart kickstart that
Speaker 24: sex steroid hormone pathway at night, which is the opposite
Speaker 24: of what we want. We want malatona to come in
Speaker 24: because melatonin is actually a very reproductive, powerful reproductive hormone.
Speaker 24: It's actually a very powerful hormone for cancer prevention. I
Speaker 24: so many things that if you look at the data
Speaker 24: with artificial light at night and cancer, you will be astounded.
Speaker 8: I mean it is robust, I know, and.
Speaker 3: A way a lot of people have tried to deal
Speaker 3: with this. Certainly on large computers.
Speaker 15: They'll get blue light filters so that you know, it
Speaker 15: basically makes their screen orange at night. I know, I
Speaker 15: definitely have seen women they'll get I think they get
Speaker 15: kind of these spectacles that are supposed to filter out
Speaker 15: blue light blocks.
Speaker 3: They're not glad. I don't know, they're not.
Speaker 15: They're not for vision correction like me or even and
Speaker 15: I imagine you can probably get a similar app for
Speaker 15: your phone.
Speaker 3: Does that do enough?
Speaker 15: Or is that just sort of putting a band aid
Speaker 15: over it that doesn't do that much and you're better
Speaker 15: just not using it at all.
Speaker 24: It helps, It absolutely helps, And that's why I have
Speaker 24: that luxmeter within the app, because you can I'll have
Speaker 24: to use your partner's phone to measure what's coming off
Speaker 24: your phone. Keep it below ten, turn your blue light
Speaker 24: filter on where you're blue blockers. That's going to help.
Speaker 24: But the other thing that can keep your brain making
Speaker 24: cortisol is the brain waves that you're going to essentially
Speaker 24: make from being on your phone, you're going to stay
Speaker 24: in a high beta state, which can also block melotone in.
Speaker 8: So there's a fine line you have to walk with it.
Speaker 24: When I want people to be compliant, I'm going to say,
Speaker 24: get the blue blockers, turn the dimness down on your phone,
Speaker 24: measure it, get red light bulbs in your home.
Speaker 8: That's going to help tremendously.
Speaker 24: But at the end of the day, I want you
Speaker 24: powered down and sleeping so you can make all that
Speaker 24: melotone at night and reap those health benefits.
Speaker 14: So what about so I know everybody's I know you're
Speaker 14: going to tell me I'm doing it wrong, and that's
Speaker 14: probably fair. I watch TV at night before I go
Speaker 14: to bed, or I read a book, so it's one
Speaker 14: of the two, and I try and do more reading
Speaker 14: it admitted like for years I was like not reading,
Speaker 14: I was watching TV, and now I'm about seventy percent
Speaker 14: of the time I'm reading a book before I go
Speaker 14: to bed. But the wife and I will watch a
Speaker 14: show together or something, you know, put the kids down.
Speaker 3: How bad is that?
Speaker 14: I tend to just like conk out, like it doesn't
Speaker 14: seem to affect me, But how bad is that?
Speaker 3: And am I doing it wrong. Yeah.
Speaker 24: Well, the great thing I love about the app is
Speaker 24: that you can take your blue blockers, put them over
Speaker 24: the lens and measure at eye level. Because I like
Speaker 24: to watch a show every Sunday night right now, this on.
Speaker 24: I like one show a week. I let myself do that.
Speaker 24: So I'll sit from where I'm at on my couch,
Speaker 24: measure the lux I'll have my blue blockers on, and
Speaker 24: I can typically get even my big TV down to
Speaker 24: about six lucks without doing anything.
Speaker 8: So we're the blue Blockers.
Speaker 24: Watch your show every now and then stick to your
Speaker 24: seventy percent reading, and you're going to be ahead of
Speaker 24: most people.
Speaker 14: But you said the brain waves though, even aren't you
Speaker 14: still having some of those brain waves that are keeping
Speaker 14: you up with reading?
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a trade off. I mean it depends on
Speaker 8: what you're reading, right right.
Speaker 3: Really dying about English history?
Speaker 15: I mean better to read really trashy novels or something
Speaker 15: that are like low brain effort versus I don't know, philosophy.
Speaker 24: I mean it's really dependent on the person. I think
Speaker 24: you'd probably be fine with philosophy or history rather than
Speaker 24: you know, murder mysteries or some of the trashy novels
Speaker 24: people like to read that might get you upset or emotional.
Speaker 8: You're probably safe with what you're reading, in my opinion.
Speaker 14: And yeah, you know, we're just not thinking about light.
Speaker 14: I mean because you think about ancient man, right, like,
Speaker 14: not even ancient man, just pre electricity man. It was
Speaker 14: like you know, you had you had candles or you
Speaker 14: had little oil lamps. I mean, that was essentially your
Speaker 14: light at night and it kind of forced you to
Speaker 14: go to bed with the rhythm of the sun. So
Speaker 14: your whole body is oriented around this. It's just we
Speaker 14: don't observe it anymore because we have electricity, we have
Speaker 14: artificial light. How much I mean, how much of our
Speaker 14: modern health because I know there's so many areas of health,
Speaker 14: but how much of our modern health do you think
Speaker 14: is actually tied in our problems are tied to this
Speaker 14: light issue?
Speaker 3: Thirty seconds?
Speaker 24: Oh so much. Look into doctor Glenn Jeffery. Look at
Speaker 24: his research on the mitochondria. Since you guys are talking
Speaker 24: to mitochondria, look at how red light and near infrared
Speaker 24: impacts mitochondria positive and blue light specifically impacts mitochondria negative.
Speaker 24: And our indoor environments are completely devoid of red and
Speaker 24: infrared light. Since we got rid of the incandescent bold
Speaker 24: and we are in these blue rich heavy environments that
Speaker 24: are actually slowing down mitochondria, slowing down our metabolism them,
Speaker 24: and it's created He's li likened it to asbestos.
Speaker 14: What lightbulbs do you recommend we get at home?
Speaker 24: Ten seconds infrared if you can get them, Incandescent are
Speaker 24: always going to be the best.
Speaker 3: That was a really fascinating conversation. I loved it. Hopefully
Speaker 3: you guys did it at home too.
Speaker 14: Thanks tender Time forever, yes, standard time it sounds is
Speaker 14: the conclusion.
Speaker 3: To see you guys tomorrow