Speaker 1: Good morning, Peepsen. Welcome to WOKP Daily with me your
Speaker 1: girl Daniel Moody recording from the home Bunker the folks. Today,
Speaker 1: as always, we get into a conversation with our friend,
Speaker 1: our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel. And importantly in
Speaker 1: the show notes for today, you will see a link
Speaker 1: to a very long but incredibly informative expose done by
Speaker 1: the Washington Post on how life expectancy in the United
Speaker 1: States is decreasing and decreasing rapidly, and how it is
Speaker 1: falling along racial lines, economic lines, and political lines, and
Speaker 1: the fact that in the Midwest and in the South,
Speaker 1: Jonathan wrote a book called Dying of Whiteness, and that
Speaker 1: is exactly what is happening. Whereas those people that are
Speaker 1: living in the interior of the country are more likely
Speaker 1: and I mean like forty nine percent more likely to
Speaker 1: die early than those that are living on the coasts
Speaker 1: and in urban areas. That is a reverse trend. And
Speaker 1: you know, Jonathan and I get into a conversation. He
Speaker 1: has his new edition of Dying of Whiteness will come
Speaker 1: out in February of next year, twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 1: he argues that we need both a health strategy and
Speaker 1: a political strategy. I however, am at a point where
Speaker 1: I just feel exasperated by these stories and wanting to
Speaker 1: try and save people that are not willing to save themselves. Look,
Speaker 1: I understand the breakdown where they are imposing right. The
Speaker 1: right is imposing their will and their desire on the
Speaker 1: rest of the country, whether you're talking about abortion or
Speaker 1: you're talking about access to guns. That blue states right
Speaker 1: with our governors clearly don't have as much power and
Speaker 1: authority as red state governors do, according to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: And so when we look and we see this unraveling
Speaker 1: of America as it is measured against its pure countries,
Speaker 1: the question is what can be done and what should
Speaker 1: be done? Or are we at the stage where we're
Speaker 1: just like, fuck them, let them eat kke literally with
Speaker 1: all the fucking starch and the you know chemicals and
Speaker 1: you know high fat content and all the things that
Speaker 1: are going to kill them. Because when Michelle Obama said
Speaker 1: let's move, they said, let's sit down and give kids
Speaker 1: more dessert. Right So, right now, as we are at
Speaker 1: this place of great divide in this country, that just
Speaker 1: gets worse each and every week, each every month, each
Speaker 1: and every year. And you know, when I see these articles,
Speaker 1: a part of me sure wants to feel bad, But
Speaker 1: then the other part is, just like for those people
Speaker 1: who do have means, this country is going to see,
Speaker 1: and I say this at the end of the conversation
Speaker 1: with Jonathan, a great exodus, A great exodus is going
Speaker 1: to happen from the United States of America where people
Speaker 1: that can afford to leave will leave. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: they'll keep their businesses here, but they'll live in other
Speaker 1: countries part of the time, and this place will end
Speaker 1: up looking like the movie Lsem where there is just
Speaker 1: havoc and disease and people are destitute and jobless and
Speaker 1: dying in the streets. Right, because once Republicans are able
Speaker 1: to do away with every single social safety net, what
Speaker 1: stops this country from looking like underdeveloped purposefully underdeveloped nations
Speaker 1: is our social safety nets, is our government. So once
Speaker 1: that is hollowed out, right, people who have been able
Speaker 1: to keep themselves quote unquote safe behind gated communities and
Speaker 1: all of these things won't because the moment that they
Speaker 1: step outside, guess what they're going to see. And much
Speaker 1: in the same way that during COVID at the height
Speaker 1: of COVID, which is still around because I know at
Speaker 1: least several people that have contracted COVID over the last
Speaker 1: couple of months. What we saw is that there is
Speaker 1: no connectedness right around public health. It was every person
Speaker 1: for themselves because of the greed and the lies and
Speaker 1: just the hate that was spread from the right. So
Speaker 1: when I look at this story and I asked Jonathan
Speaker 1: today about his thoughts on it, because he literally wrote
Speaker 1: the book on it, and rewrote the book on it,
Speaker 1: where America is headed, I don't think at this stage
Speaker 1: can be averted. And that's the conversation that we have
Speaker 1: coming up next. Folks. You know that whenever I have
Speaker 1: the opportunity to speak with our in house doctor, doctor
Speaker 1: Jonathan Metzel, I am always thrilled, particularly when the Washington
Speaker 1: Post comes out with a really disturbing expose where Jonathan,
Speaker 1: as I said the other day with my co host
Speaker 1: jajahat Ali, you are a soothsayer. You like you knew
Speaker 1: what was up when you wrote Dying of Whiteness, And
Speaker 1: it's just as if all of the reporting and research
Speaker 1: is following what you had already said. So right now
Speaker 1: there is a expose in the Washington post entitled Dying Early,
Speaker 1: America's Life expectancy crisis. An epidemic of chronic illness is
Speaker 1: killing us too soon? And Jonathan, I'll just start out
Speaker 1: with saying that the opening graphs of this piece are
Speaker 1: extraordinarily disturbing because it goes to say that essentially we
Speaker 1: hit our peak where life expectancy in the United States
Speaker 1: was growing. We hit our peak at around twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: at around seventy eight point nine years of age was
Speaker 1: the life expectancy, and at that time we thought that
Speaker 1: it was going to continue growing. Aside from the pandemic,
Speaker 1: which obviously was a major hit to life expectancy and
Speaker 1: played out along racial and economic lines, what this article
Speaker 1: says is that those people that are living in the Midwest,
Speaker 1: that are living in the interior of America are almost
Speaker 1: right now forty nine percent more likely to die early.
Speaker 1: And it is extraordinary. And I just want to get
Speaker 1: your initial reactions to what is the quiet pandemic that
Speaker 1: has been happening in this country since you know the
Speaker 1: twenty teens.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I was glad to see this article published.
Speaker 2: It obviously builds on a lot of stuff that I've
Speaker 2: been working on for a long time. And the shocking
Speaker 2: revelation is that life expectancy is not just some kind
Speaker 2: of biological inevitability. Like it's not like people live longer
Speaker 2: because we just are smarter or live longer on the earth.
Speaker 2: The reason people live longer is because of access to
Speaker 2: healthcare and knowledge of prevention and warding off infectious disease
Speaker 2: and workplace safety protections and all the things that have
Speaker 2: gone into basically, I mean, if you look at it,
Speaker 2: I looked at this for dying of whiteness, but it's
Speaker 2: pretty incredible if you just compare like the early twentieth
Speaker 2: century to now, or the eighteen fifties till now, when
Speaker 2: we started doing vaccines and realizing that stuff like asbestos
Speaker 2: kills you and workplace safety protections, it wasn't just a
Speaker 2: little blip in terms of life expectancy, like people lived
Speaker 2: like two decades longer when we started implementing effective public health.
Speaker 2: Basically that was structural, government linked mandated because otherwise your
Speaker 2: workplace is going to be really unsafe and you're going
Speaker 2: to die of an infectious illness that you don't have
Speaker 2: a immunization against, and all those other factors. So it's
Speaker 2: not a mystery that if you just revolt, you know,
Speaker 2: roll back those advances, you're going to revert back to
Speaker 2: earlier life expectancies, which is that people live about forty
Speaker 2: nine years, you know, on average, or something like that.
Speaker 2: And then of course, if you add in other things
Speaker 2: like having to carry bad you know, a dangerous pregnancy,
Speaker 2: to term women's reproductive health, all these things, and so
Speaker 2: all these things contributed to rises in life expressing. And
Speaker 2: what's remarkable about this is that there aren't really many
Speaker 2: other examples of industrialized, advanced countries having not only a
Speaker 2: fall in life expectancy, but also a fall in life
Speaker 2: expectancy of the demographic majority group, right, White Americans, who
Speaker 2: were suffering from this the most. And so that was
Speaker 2: kind of where I started with Dying Whiteness, and I've
Speaker 2: got the new edition of Dying of Whiteness coming out
Speaker 2: February fourth. And part of what I argue is that
Speaker 2: life expectancy is one metric, but you have to see
Speaker 2: that people, just like I argued the pandemic, kind of
Speaker 2: replayed it again. Life expectancy is just one metric. But
Speaker 2: the metric that White America and the Red States are
Speaker 2: playing with is power they're trading decades of life for power.
Speaker 1: So part me, let me read you this piece, which
Speaker 1: kind of which speaks to what you just said. In
Speaker 1: the Washington Post article, they write, sickness and death are
Speaker 1: scarring entire communities in much of the country. The geographical
Speaker 1: footprint of early death is vast. In a quarter of
Speaker 1: the nation's counties, mostly in the South and mid West,
Speaker 1: working age people are dying at a higher rate than
Speaker 1: forty years ago. The trail of death is so prevalent
Speaker 1: that a person could go from Virginia to Louisiana and
Speaker 1: then up to Kansas by traveling entirely within counties where
Speaker 1: death rates are higher than they were when Jimmy Carter
Speaker 1: was president. And they go on to say this this
Speaker 1: phenomenon is exasperated by the country's economic, political, and racial divides.
Speaker 1: America is increasingly a country of haves and have nots,
Speaker 1: measured not by bank accounts and property values, but also
Speaker 1: by vital signs and grave markers. Dying prematurely, the Post found,
Speaker 1: has become the most telling measure of the nation's inequality.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, the crazy thing is like, we're
Speaker 2: choosing it right, We're voting for it. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have a very particular relationship to this,
Speaker 2: which is just it's terrifying. But I don't know. I
Speaker 2: got a couple of paragraphs into the article, and I,
Speaker 2: to be totally asked, I didn't even finish the article yet.
Speaker 2: I will do it right after we talk. But it's
Speaker 2: just that you just think, like I guess it's crazy
Speaker 2: because like what I learned in medical school was that
Speaker 2: self preservation and longevity for yourself and your family and
Speaker 2: your community was the core human like evolutionary drive. But
Speaker 2: people are voting for this, they're choosing it, and they're
Speaker 2: choosing it like really actively and knowingly. Like it's not
Speaker 2: like I interviewed people and dying of whiteness who were
Speaker 2: who are not aware.
Speaker 1: As I'm reading this right, and I you know, I
Speaker 1: often go back to this movie that I say is
Speaker 1: a terrible movie, but like it really is one of
Speaker 1: those sci fi films that is just like that could
Speaker 1: never happen, and then you're like, oh no, this is happening,
Speaker 1: and it's Elysium with Matt Damon and in the movie,
Speaker 1: Earth has completely been extracted of all of its value.
Speaker 1: There's sickness there's death, there's famine. It's everywhere. And in
Speaker 1: this place in outer space, Lyssum is where there is
Speaker 1: only happiness and health and all of these things. And
Speaker 1: you can get a lottery ticket to go there, or
Speaker 1: you can be born into it. Right. But it's this
Speaker 1: idea that it isn't just about the advent of new
Speaker 1: technologies that allow us to screen for cancer earlier, or
Speaker 1: to take medication that allows us to live with you know,
Speaker 1: or to decrease hypertension or manage our diabetes or all
Speaker 1: of these things. It's exactly what you said, that this
Speaker 1: is an active choice that these white people in the
Speaker 1: Midwest and in the South that are now dying at
Speaker 1: a higher And this is not to say, of course,
Speaker 1: it falls along racial lines as well, But what is
Speaker 1: wild to me is that the people that have been
Speaker 1: actively voting for their own demise are the ones that
Speaker 1: are dying at a higher rate. And I just like,
Speaker 1: it's at one time shocking, but also I go back, Jonathan,
Speaker 1: and I think about Michelle Obama in the White House.
Speaker 1: Let's move was her initiative to combat childhood obesity. What
Speaker 1: did the Republican Party do, right? They said, let them
Speaker 1: eat dessert? They said that fruits and vegetables, now, we
Speaker 1: don't need them, right, that they were voting for pink
Speaker 1: slime and lunch meat as opposed to cafeterias filled with
Speaker 1: fresh food and vegetables. That's what the Republican Party was doing.
Speaker 1: And so when I read that paragraph and I think
Speaker 1: to myself, oh, it's the political climate, I said, it's
Speaker 1: a climate you created, you know.
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, I've got the new edition, Edition two
Speaker 2: point zero of Dying of Whiteness comes out or a
Speaker 2: fourth And and what I argue in the new addition
Speaker 2: is that this is actually like one of the most
Speaker 2: terrifying findings the pandemic. And these findings, like what the
Speaker 2: Post is finding, are among the most terrifying findings for
Speaker 2: the future of our country, right because the fact that
Speaker 2: people are knowingly are people, The fact that people are
Speaker 2: knowingly doing this means that we have to think outside
Speaker 2: our common assumption about like public health or communal health
Speaker 2: or something like that. That people are doing this, they're murders, right,
Speaker 2: we have to think of these people as murders, as
Speaker 2: as foot soldiers or something like that. But that in
Speaker 2: a way, I don't know. We thought we were kind
Speaker 2: of all in this together, but the pandemic and all
Speaker 2: these factors, like the idea, all the core assumptions of
Speaker 2: public health are things like herd immunity, the idea that
Speaker 2: everybody works together to lower infection risk. So many communal
Speaker 2: Americans are based on people working together to improve wages
Speaker 2: or longevity or something like that. But half the country
Speaker 2: is not working all that model right now. And so
Speaker 2: I guess the question for me, and I'd love to
Speaker 2: discuss this going forward, is what do you do with
Speaker 2: that knowledge? Right? What do you do with that knowledge?
Speaker 2: Because half the country, and it's not a surprise, but
Speaker 2: they are really not working on that communal model in
Speaker 2: a way, which undergirds like the entire public health apparatus
Speaker 2: of this of everything we know in a way, And
Speaker 2: so what do you do with that information? Because the
Speaker 2: most terrifying part, which I don't think the posts. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll read the full thing later because it makes me
Speaker 2: too upset to read this stuff now, but I'll say
Speaker 2: the most important part is like what do we do
Speaker 2: with these kind of stories? Right? Our natural tendency is
Speaker 2: to say, well, look, everything's so backward in red states,
Speaker 2: and everything's much healthier in blue states. But you have
Speaker 2: to recognize that the ideology that you're up against actually
Speaker 2: the goal is to subvert blue states. It's not just
Speaker 2: to keep bad health in red states. And so an
Speaker 2: example is, for example, the Bruin case for the Supreme
Speaker 2: Court about guns. We knew that bad gun policies were
Speaker 2: killing more people in red states, and that data was
Speaker 2: really clearly presented to the Supreme Court. But the Supreme
Speaker 2: Court turned around and overturned New York's gun laws. It said, basically,
Speaker 2: you have to adopt these pathologically bad things. So I
Speaker 2: feel like a lot of times our response to these
Speaker 2: articles is like, oh, well, thank god I live in
Speaker 2: a blue state, But you have to know that people
Speaker 2: willing to die for their whiteness. That's the target is
Speaker 2: blue state America. And so and so. I just think
Speaker 2: you need a better political need. We need a political strategy,
Speaker 2: not just a health strategy. That's what I argue in
Speaker 2: the new book.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I you know, and I agree with you
Speaker 1: in so many ways, But at the same time, I
Speaker 1: am at you know, really, as I was reading this piece,
Speaker 1: thinking to myself that we are now at a time
Speaker 1: where we're beyond tribalism, right that we are at a
Speaker 1: every person for themselves right that if you know, yes,
Speaker 1: of course, the Supreme Court can continue to rain down
Speaker 1: terror on states that have tried to make their inhabitants safer,
Speaker 1: whether it's from guns, whether it's from food products, whether
Speaker 1: it's from greedy banks, whether it's all of the protections
Speaker 1: that governors apparently in blue states don't have the same
Speaker 1: power to command in the same way that governors in
Speaker 1: red states do. At the same time, it's like, when
Speaker 1: I think about my health and I think about the
Speaker 1: health of my family and friends, it is really your responsibility, right,
Speaker 1: Like your health is your responsibility. And so if you
Speaker 1: and at that same time, we understand what happens in
Speaker 1: terms of poverty and not having access to health care,
Speaker 1: which is why Obamacare right was pushed through so that
Speaker 1: people could have access regardless of the type of jobs
Speaker 1: that they had, to healthcare. Republicans fought against that and
Speaker 1: have chipped away at it ever since it was put
Speaker 1: in place. And so, you know, at one time, I
Speaker 1: look at this and I want to throw the whole,
Speaker 1: you know, my whole laptop away as I'm reading it,
Speaker 1: and then at the same time I'm just like, let
Speaker 1: them die, right like, and I say that like tongue
Speaker 1: in cheek. But at the same time, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: what political strategy in this climate, Jonathan is going to
Speaker 1: assuage people that decided not to put a mask on
Speaker 1: their own face to protect themselves and their families from
Speaker 1: a virus that killed over a million people. What political
Speaker 1: strategy is going to move those people into a place
Speaker 1: where they didn't even value their own goddamn lives over
Speaker 1: the lies that were being told to them by a
Speaker 1: political party that they pled their li and their life too.
Speaker 2: See, here's the issue for me. I mean, of course
Speaker 2: I wrote a whole book on that very point. But
Speaker 2: the idea of let them die, it's I just I
Speaker 2: can't say this enough. They're coming for you. So they're
Speaker 2: dying in order to own you in a way. And
Speaker 2: so the idea of the idea that this is just like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's just poor red states. That's not the goal of
Speaker 2: this ideology. People aren't just dying because they hate public
Speaker 2: health and they want a shorter lifespan. They're dying because
Speaker 2: the strategy of their dying is part of a bigger project,
Speaker 2: which is to take over the Supreme Court and overturn
Speaker 2: the Affordable Care Act and overturn all gun laws and
Speaker 2: many other factors that will actually impact not just their
Speaker 2: life but your life. And so it's not just like hey,
Speaker 2: those backward guys down there, it's seeing that they're dying
Speaker 2: as part of a bigger political project. And that bigger
Speaker 2: political project is taking over the country. Right. I think
Speaker 2: there's something terrifying about this that's not just backward red states,
Speaker 2: which is I mean, this is what I argue in
Speaker 2: the New Dying of Whiteness, that we have to see
Speaker 2: that this is part of a bigger political project whose
Speaker 2: aim is blue state America. And so in a way,
Speaker 2: the idea that oh, well, just we can divide the country,
Speaker 2: we can have a national divorce, that's not what this
Speaker 2: is about. This is about taking over the entire country.
Speaker 2: And so these deaths really are like almost military foot
Speaker 2: soldier type deaths, about an agenda that has that's trying
Speaker 2: to impact your health and your life. And I just
Speaker 2: think we've been too late to wake up to that.
Speaker 2: I mean abortion to be illegal across the entire country,
Speaker 2: and no gun laws across the entire country. So the
Speaker 2: aim of this death, which again I haven't finished the
Speaker 2: Washington Post article, but I sure hope they get to
Speaker 2: this point is the aim of this death isn't just
Speaker 2: like we want to all die in Red States. It's
Speaker 2: that this is the strategy they're using to take over
Speaker 2: the entire country.
Speaker 1: My feeling, Jonathan, and you are the expert here, So
Speaker 1: outside of this Washington Post, you know, very in depth
Speaker 1: expose of the last year that they have been doing
Speaker 1: this research to come out here and they pull out
Speaker 1: and have different interviews with different people that are struggling,
Speaker 1: struggling from you know, from from chronic illness, a woman
Speaker 1: that died at the age of sixty one, and so
Speaker 1: forth and so on, a young man that died at
Speaker 1: the age of thirty. And you know, the fact is
Speaker 1: I hear everything that you're saying, and I hear everything.
Speaker 1: They're coming for you, They're coming for your health like
Speaker 1: this is I mean it is. It's going to be elysium,
Speaker 1: where there is a place that is filled with death
Speaker 1: and despair and disease, all things that were preventable if
Speaker 1: you had invested in healthcare, if you hadn't done any
Speaker 1: of the investment means that other peer countries have been
Speaker 1: doing in prevention of disease. And that is what is
Speaker 1: going to happen. But what what is a parent is
Speaker 1: that the wealthy will be able to shield themselves from
Speaker 1: this right, and is that the wealthy will be able
Speaker 1: to shield themselves from this Uh, those that are able
Speaker 1: and you know, and again that comes back to wealth.
Speaker 1: Those that are able to lead this country and live
Speaker 1: someplace else will right and you and you will see
Speaker 1: a great exodus of talent, of wealth, of intellect that
Speaker 1: that happens in nations that decide to battle for the bottom.
Speaker 1: And I think that America is on that trajectory. And
Speaker 1: you know, look, I try these days to look for
Speaker 1: the hopefulness to find, you know, the rainbow in the rain.
Speaker 1: But in all honesty, when I read this article and
Speaker 1: I look at this and I talk to you every
Speaker 1: week for you know, going on three years now, I
Speaker 1: don't really see how things get better. And that is
Speaker 1: because I don't see how this political climate. I'll give
Speaker 1: you the last word, this political climate has not reached
Speaker 1: its bottom yet. And the only way that things get
Speaker 1: better is for things to finally bottom out and then
Speaker 1: be able to That is my opinion.
Speaker 2: I'm talking to you from Nashville today. I'm looking at
Speaker 2: my window. There are cranes as far as I can see.
Speaker 2: We actually once again reached crane maximum, which is what
Speaker 2: it's called here in Nashville. There's so many new building
Speaker 2: projects coming up here because all of these you know,
Speaker 2: I can see the Alliance Bernstein Tower out my window here.
Speaker 2: It's all these New York firms and companies and businesses
Speaker 2: are moving to Red state America because there's cheap labor,
Speaker 2: no labor unions, no state income tax. It's a really
Speaker 2: kind of pro business. Amazon is rebuilding our downtown, all
Speaker 2: these kind of things. It's not like everybody's walking around
Speaker 2: with a corn cob pipe here. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: there's a lot of there's just a lot of commerce
Speaker 2: and business and wealth that's coming to the South. Property
Speaker 2: values are really high. And part of the reason that
Speaker 2: is is because there's a lot of cheap, disposable labor.
Speaker 2: Unions can't organize a lot of these car companies that
Speaker 2: don't want to fight the battle in Michigan or thinking
Speaker 2: about you know, there are a lot of car car
Speaker 2: plants down here in Tennessee and stuff like that. And
Speaker 2: so the reason I'm saying This is because part of
Speaker 2: where I come to with this, I'm not ready to
Speaker 2: give up on America yet, but I am saying that
Speaker 2: how can you It's just funny that part there's a
Speaker 2: health story, which is people are dying earlier in Red
Speaker 2: State America. And then there's also this business story, which
Speaker 2: is that all these businesses are moving down here because
Speaker 2: it's a lot cheaper them. Red State America is kind
Speaker 2: of like what Mexico used to be or something like that,
Speaker 2: Like you can hire all these people who are disposable
Speaker 2: humans to work in your stuff, and you don't have
Speaker 2: to pay taxes and that for you don't have to
Speaker 2: pay for social programs. And so the question I have
Speaker 2: in response to your question, I realized this is a
Speaker 2: long way of answering. It is like, how can you
Speaker 2: fortify Blue State America so that Blue State America remains
Speaker 2: like a safe and healthy place. And part of that
Speaker 2: is about health, but it's also about commerce and finance.
Speaker 2: Like the reason that New York is in trouble right
Speaker 2: now is because a lot of its tax base has
Speaker 2: moved to Florida and Texas and Tennessee and places like that,
Speaker 2: and companies to Mexico and things like that, and so
Speaker 2: I just feel like at the very least Blue State
Speaker 2: of America needs to needs we didn't need a better strategy
Speaker 2: for Blue State America in the face of this, which
Speaker 2: is about health, but it's also about finance and capital,
Speaker 2: like what would what would true progressive capitalism look like?
Speaker 2: How could you how could you make make it profitable
Speaker 2: enough in Blue State America? Because the question for me
Speaker 2: is like, is Blue in America going to be able
Speaker 2: to continue to afford the health programs that keep people healthy?
Speaker 2: So those are really long and winding answer, except that
Speaker 2: I do argue in a lot of my writing now
Speaker 2: that Blue State America needs a better financial model to
Speaker 2: keep its health, not to just say, look at those
Speaker 2: backwards bumpkins down there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we will have to leave it there today, Jonathan,
Speaker 1: because you got two books coming out that are going
Speaker 1: to reshape conversations that are desperately in need of reshaping.
Speaker 1: And so we appreciate that we get to have those
Speaker 1: jump off conversations happen here on WOKF every week with you.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, my friend.
Speaker 2: Take care everybody, and don't forget like puppies and peonies
Speaker 2: are right around the corner. Just the minute Matt Gates
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Speaker 1: Everything will get a lot better. That is it for
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