1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Cal's weekend review, presented by Steel. Steel products are available 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: only at authorized dealers. For more, go to Steel Dealers 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's your host. Ryan cal Callahan. 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: A Utah teen, is facing charges for taping fish to 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: ATMs in the city of Provo. Why would a seventeen 7 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: year old spend time duck taping trout, panfish and other 8 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: species to ATMs in what is usually a clean and 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: let's call it a crime light city. Well for the clicks, bro, 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: obviously this is going to make a six shot and 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: it'll be cool six shot six for the two. The 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: youngster documented his antics on the Instagram account fish Bandit 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: eighty four, which as of this recording had seventy one 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: thousand followers. The short videos feature music, a clever caption 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: in a taped to various objects, including ATMs, police cars, 16 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: and the doors of bathroom stalls, and the fish aren't 17 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: always dead. The fish's mouths are moving in some of 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: the videos, and others show the fish smoking a lit cigarette, 19 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 2: probably not by choice. The post from the bathroom stall 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: uses the caption bass in the pro shops, which makes 21 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: me wonder whether officials should be looking in provo for 22 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: that fella who stole the tarpain out of the bass 23 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: pro a few weeks ago. But this kid is enough 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: trouble as it is. Local media reports that he's been 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: charged with two counts of property damage, stemming from the 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: cost of cleaning up his public art displays. It's unclear 27 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: what penalties he might face, but his case has been 28 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: referred to Juvenile Justice and Youth Services. If he ends 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: up in JUVI, at least he'll have more Instagram followers 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: than anyone else in the place. Or maybe he'll find 31 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: out what fresh fish means on the inside. Yeah, you 32 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: all watch Shawshank Redemption. Don't judge me. 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: I have no idea to this day. With those two 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: Italian it is was singing about the truth is I 35 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: don't want to know. 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: This week, we've got bait, green energy, bad bills, and 37 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: so much more. But first I'm going to tell you 38 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: about my week. In my week was spent on mental health, 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: the kind that comes from cleaning the garage and processing meat. 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: Got a nice little hike into even made ravioli from 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: scratch with the good doctor Randall Williams. In my concoction. 42 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: I used pulled goose legs, morels, carrots, little parsley, I 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: think little salt. Of course, got it all like individually cooked, 44 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: and then I threw it in the food processor and 45 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: mixed it up, so it's not mush. It's what I 46 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: would call probably the finest ravioli filling that has ever 47 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: graced the inside of a pasta pocket. Yeah, go ahead 48 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 2: challenge me on that. I want to remind you of 49 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: a couple of things. One Pheasant Fest is coming up 50 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: and Sue falls South Dakota this year. Yes, Snort is 51 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: coming along with musky chat and meat eaters mister fix 52 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: it Chili. There only one hundred or so tickets left 53 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: to the first ever concert for conservation. The truly awesome 54 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: folks at Trampled By Turtles are going to melt faces 55 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: in the name of habitat. I'll be there and you 56 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: should too. On the YouTube channel, my buddy Fritz aka 57 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Oldtime Hockey joins me on the hard water of Lake 58 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: Cascade for jumbo perch. Check in on that. If you 59 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: don't know Old Time Hockey, trust me, you want to. 60 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: Montana Bha is raffing off Montana Statewide Mule deer tag. 61 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: Usually this tag is auctioned off to one wealthy person 62 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: willing to part with forty thousand dollars. This year, however, 63 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: Montana Bha thinks everyone should at least have a chance 64 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: at getting their name in the hat for this statewide, 65 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: any unit, any open season public wildlife. So get on 66 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: the Google and look for Montana Bha Mule Deer tag. 67 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: We need folks to participate in this, or else is 68 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: just going to go back to another auction for the 69 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: fancy folks. And lastly, Backcountry Hunters and Anglers Rendezvous will 70 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: be in Minneapolis this year. Tickets will be going on 71 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: sale shortly. We have a ton of great speakers lined up, 72 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: a bunch of meat eater personalities, things to learn, do, buy, eat, make, 73 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: and most importantly easy way is to get involved in 74 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: protecting and enhancing the things we love like public lands, water, wildlife, 75 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: and access to those things. So check it out, be 76 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: on the lookout. Moving on to the deer desk. Do 77 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: wolves make it more difficult to hunt deer over bait? 78 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: This is the question researchers from the University of Minnesota 79 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: set out to answer, and they publish their findings in 80 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: a recent article in Ecology and Evolution. Their conclusions may 81 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: surprise you. Deer hunters love to complain about wolves, and 82 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: with good reason. Wolves prey on deer, which reduces deer 83 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: numbers and makes deer more vigilant. But in areas that 84 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: allow deer baiting, wolves add yet another wrinkle. According to 85 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: this theory, wolves scare deer way from bait piles and 86 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: makes the strategy less effective than it would otherwise be. 87 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: This study suggests that it doesn't alter deer behavior as 88 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 2: much as you might expect. The team set up fifteen 89 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: bait sites in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and fifteen in Michigan's 90 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: Lower Peninsula. For those unfamiliar with the Minton State ecology, 91 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: the UP has established wolf populations and the LP doesn't. 92 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: The researchers then scented five sites on each peninsula with 93 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: wolf urine, five with lemon juice, and five with water. 94 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 2: You would expect the deer and the UP to alter 95 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 2: their behavior when they smelled the wolves in the area 96 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: and avoid those bait sites. In reality, while these deer 97 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: tended to avoid bait sites more in the evenings, wolf 98 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: scent had little effect on number of visits. Group vigilance 99 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: or group size. Researchers admit that these deer may have 100 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: reacted differently to signs of immediate wolf presence, such as 101 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 2: wolf howling, but wolf's scent by itself had minimal impact 102 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: on deer behavior. However, that's not the end of the study. 103 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: Wolves do alter deer behavior at bait sites, but only 104 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: when combined with dense vegetation. In all their study sites, 105 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: no matter the scent used, deer in the UP were 106 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: more vigilant when the bait pile was in an area 107 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: of dense vegetation. Researchers measured vigilance by how often deer 108 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: picked up their heads to look around. Deer vigilance intensity 109 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: increase by one point three times for each unit increase 110 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: in vegetation cover in the UP, but not in the LP. 111 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: Researchers believe this is the case because vegetation gives wolves 112 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: a place to hide and impedes escape routes. It isn't 113 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: often that a study in a peer reviewed journal offers 114 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: hunting advice, but that's exactly what this study does. The 115 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: authors recommend that if you're baiting deer in an area 116 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,559 Speaker 2: that also contains wolves, put your feeder or food plot 117 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: in an open area. This will keep the deer more 118 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: relaxed and reduce the chances that they'll spook and run away. 119 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: It might make approaching the bait site and staying concealed 120 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: more difficult for you, but it'll pay off in the 121 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: long run. Moving on to the public Lands desk, the 122 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: Biden administration is making good on its promise to expand 123 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 2: clean energy production by opening over twenty two million acres 124 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: of BLM land to solar development. The agency's new Western 125 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: Solar Plan lays out options for building new projects on 126 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: BLM land in eleven Western states. It all gets a 127 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: bit technical, but the agency says it will prioritize building 128 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: new solar farms on BLM lands within ten miles of 129 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: existing and or plan transmission lines greater than one hundred 130 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: kilo volts. They say they'll exclude some areas such as 131 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: big game migration corridors and big game winter ranges, But 132 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: as Eli Fournier points out in an article at the 133 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: medeater dot com, the plan is light on the details 134 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: when it comes to how these solar farms will impact wildlife. 135 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: To determine which lands are eligible for exclusion, the plan 136 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: advises that projects must be in line with more localized 137 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: BLM resource management plans, but those plans are themselves vague. 138 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: For example, the resource management plan for Rawlins, Wyoming does 139 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: not prohibit surface disturbing and disruptive activities within big game 140 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: crucial winter range. Instead, it advises managers to quote reduce 141 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: the amount of human presence and activity during the winter 142 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: months in that area of Wyoming. At least a solar 143 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: farm could be permitted as long as it is not 144 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: constructed during winter months. Of course, it's easy to cherry 145 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: pick areas no one wants to see a solar farm 146 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: and claim those could be open to development. The reality 147 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: is that, according to BLM, only about three percent of 148 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: the total twenty two million total acres are likely to 149 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: see any kind of solar development. That equals nearly seven 150 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: hundred thousand acres. But we can hope these projects will 151 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: be in areas that aren't crucial to wildlife or enjoyed 152 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: for their hunting and fishing. Also, as I've often pointed 153 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: out on this podcast, BLM lands are supposed to be 154 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: working lands. They facilitate oil extraction, cattle grazing, outfitting services, 155 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: and electricity generation. Why should we exclude solar energy development, 156 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: especially if it might give us enough electricity to remove 157 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: other kinds of industries from the landscape. One of those, 158 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: right would be like giant energy producing dam that blocks 159 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: salmon and steelhead migration. It's a fair question, but hunters 160 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: are still understandably nervous. Solar farms are what a homeowner's 161 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 2: association might call an isore, and it's tough to glass 162 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: up mule deer if they're hiding under solar panels, which 163 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: I can't imagine they do. Meat US's Brody Henderson also 164 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: noted that the construction, road building and increased vehicle in 165 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: human activity needed to build a solar farm isn't so 166 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: different from fossil fuel extraction. He wondered how the agency 167 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: squares those projects with their pledge to protect more wildlife habitat. 168 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: If you want to know what I think, I'll tell 169 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: you right now. I don't want to see any public land, 170 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: zero percent of public land chewed up for energy development. 171 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 2: If it disturbs a sage grouse, leck, the lesser prairie chicken, 172 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: mule deer, an a lope, I do not like it, 173 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: and I do not want to see it happen. Now 174 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: this seven hundred thousand acres. If that is true, I'm 175 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: sure there's some areas that are right next to power 176 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: lines or previously developed chunks of BLM that had been mines, 177 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: or logger landing areas, or something that's just beat to tarnation. 178 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: If you can explain that to me, show it to 179 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: me on a map, show me the lack of ecological 180 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: benefit to our existing ecosystems, then you know, maybe we 181 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: got something to play with. But if you can't do that, 182 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: chances are we are swapping out a sensitive ecosystem for 183 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: solar production that is just going to be a drop 184 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 2: in the bucket compared to other things that we could do. 185 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: One of those things that we could do, ladies and gentlemen, 186 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: is be more responsible users, right. That means using less 187 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: or using less during peak hours. That's something that you 188 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: can affect on your own. So as you know, I 189 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: love public lands. I'm very defensive of public lands. I 190 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: just don't think that we have any current solutions. I 191 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: think we have current band aid and political fixes. As 192 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: we're coming up to an election here, what do you 193 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: think of that? Right in? Let me know askcal at 194 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: themeateater dot com. Moving on to the shotgun desk. Should 195 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: hunters be banned from using plastic shotgun wads, The California 196 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 2: Fishing Game Commission might be open to the idea. The 197 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: commission's Wildlife Resources Committee heard a presentation at a meeting 198 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: in January from an outfit called the surf Writer Foundation. 199 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: The Surfrider Foundation is an environmental group focused on plastic 200 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: reduction oceans and beaches. They've been combing California beaches looking 201 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: for shotgun wads, and their Global Shotgun Wad Watcher claims 202 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: to have found over one hundred thousand wads worldwide. The 203 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: Surfrider Foundation claims that, like other single use plastics that 204 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: end up in the ocean, shotgun wads pollute the environment 205 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: and contribute to the growth owing population of plastic in 206 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: our drinking water. For those unfamiliar with scattergun ammunition, a 207 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: shotgun wad is a plastic cup that holds the bebes 208 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: in a shotgun shell. When the primary ignites the powder, 209 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: both the primary and the powder behind the shotgun wad. 210 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: The wod keeps the shot together as it's expelled from 211 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: the shotgun shell into the barrel, and then that wad 212 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: continues to travel out, propelled by the force of the 213 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: gas expanding, and then eventually as that wad leaves the barrel, 214 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: it has these little flower petals on it that kind 215 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: of expand out, catching the wind, separating cleanly from your pellets, 216 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: and then your pellets fly out and plaster just the 217 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: head and neck region of that big old cock rooster 218 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: you've been chasing, and then snort goes and retrieves it. Anyway, 219 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: the Surfrider Foundation's presentation was about what you'd expect, lots 220 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: of pictures of people holding shotgun wads next to the 221 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 2: ocean and piles of shotgun wods on beaches, But the 222 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: text of the report they submitted to the committee is 223 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 2: more nuanced. They admit, for example, that a ban on 224 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: plastic shotgun wads would be quote received negatively from the 225 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: shotgun community. They also admit that little data exists on 226 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: exactly how much shotgun wods contribute to plastic pollution overall. 227 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: In fact, they said wads are a relatively small problem 228 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: compared to other single use plastics, and they're right. Shotgun 229 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,439 Speaker 2: wads are not on the top ten list of plastic 230 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: items found on beaches according to the Ocean Conservancy. For 231 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: these reasons. They actually recommend that shotgun wods not be 232 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: banned outright. Instead, they want the California government to incentivize 233 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: the creation of alternative biodegradable wad material and then recruit 234 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: messengers within the hunting community to push for their adoption. 235 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: In some ways, it's encouraging instead of forcing change on 236 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: hunters using force, as they've done with lead Ammo bands. 237 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,479 Speaker 2: They're hoping hunters will voluntarily opt for more environmentally friendly options. 238 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: But that's where the problem lies. Wads used to be 239 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: made with materials woven from plant fiber, but plastic wads 240 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: are cheaper to make and more effective. There is only 241 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: one US based company developing biodegradable shotgun wads and outfit 242 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 2: called green ops Ammo, but they have yet to bring 243 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: a product to market. It's tough to convince bird hunters 244 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: to switch to biodegradable materials when those products don't even exist. 245 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: And here's the deal. Friends like I know from various 246 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: talks with shotgun shell manufacturers that they have existed in 247 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: the past. They do exist, but they kind of throw 248 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: it back on the purchasers, suggesting that data indicates that 249 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: American hunters would not be willing to switch. The Surfrider 250 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: Foundation pulled the hunters, who told them that if the 251 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: shotgun shells were inexpensive and effective, they consider switching to 252 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: biodegradable wad material, but they won't do it if they're 253 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: forced into it or if the products aren't up to 254 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: par Sebastian Garcia testified at the hearing, and he told 255 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: Meat Eater that a forced band would kill waterfowl hunting 256 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: in the state. He said, the California hunters aren't opposed 257 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: to eventually using biodegradable wads, and that's probably the direction 258 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: we need to be moving, but right now it's a 259 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: bad idea. People won't be get out to hunt. That's 260 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: less hunting licenses bought and less duck stamps purchased. I 261 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: tell you right now, biodegradable wads make them yesterday, I'll 262 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: buy them today. This is definitely something the hunting community 263 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: should pursue, if not demand. I've hung out with a 264 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: lot of firearms manufacturers, a lot of firearm ammunition manufacturers, 265 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: and I cannot tell you how smart these people are. 266 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: If they put their brains to it, they'd make this stuff. 267 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: I'd love to see it happen. Moving on to the 268 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: Weird Accident's desk. A thirty eight year old British man 269 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: on a cycling trip across Europe fell off a cliff 270 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: and after eating what his family believes were bad mushrooms. 271 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: Stephen Harper had decided to cycle all the way from 272 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: Scotland to India, and he'd made a stop in the 273 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: coastal Italian city of Vintimiglia. I think it's called alivideci readers. 274 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: In his final message to his family, he said he'd 275 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: been foraging for mushrooms and wasn't feeling well. That was 276 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: all the way back into November. When his family didn't 277 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: hear from him, his brother launched a campaign to find 278 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: his missing sibling. The brother eventually learned that Harper had 279 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: fallen to his death, but he couldn't be identified by 280 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: local authorities because his idea had been stolen. Nearby workmen 281 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: had seen Harper fallen, had rushed to his aid, and 282 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: an EMS helicopter was dispatched to the area, but Harper 283 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: had already died of internal injuries. Harper's brother says they're 284 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: still waiting on the toxicology report, but they believe he 285 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: became disoriented after eating the mushrooms, he fell off the cliff, 286 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: along with all of his belongings, which could indicate the 287 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: fall wasn't intentional. I think the lesson here is obvious. 288 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: If you're an international spy using a cycling trip as 289 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: a cover, don't camp anywhere near a cliff. Just kidding. 290 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: Always positively identify mushrooms before eating. And I'd advise against 291 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: foraging in a foreign country unless you're with a local 292 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: who can lead you to the foods that won't kill you, 293 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: or else you know you may be in for a 294 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: bad trip. In another strange and unusual outdoor accident, a 295 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: UK woman is asking that her leg be amputated after 296 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: strugging for years with an infection caught during a fishing trip. 297 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 2: Forty year old Michelle Milton went fishing with her brother 298 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. A portion of the nylon line in 299 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: her front pocket pierced her right thigh after she slipped 300 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: on some rocks in the first day of the excursion. 301 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: According to the New York Post, that is, that didn't 302 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: make a whole lot of sense to me, so I 303 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: read several other accounts of this accident. Some say the 304 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: fishing line got stuck in her leg after she slipped, 305 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: which also didn't make a whole lot of sense. Milton 306 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 2: herself has called the injury a simple scratch. I'd understand 307 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: if a hook got caught in her leg, but she 308 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: seems adamant that the incident involved the fishing line. In 309 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: any case, the injury caused a serious infection. She went 310 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: to the hospital after her leg swelled up. Four days later. 311 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: She was given antibiotics, but the infection became resistant to 312 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: the drugs. Now she's undergone fifty five surgeries to try 313 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 2: to correct the problem. She's endured four skin grafts, thirty washouts, 314 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: in twenty one deep ride months to remove the damaged tissue, 315 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: and spent most of her time in hospital. Nothing seems 316 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 2: to be working, which is why she's asking Doc cut 317 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: it off. Quote. I'm sick of spending my life in hospital. 318 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: I can't believe a simple scratch has left me like 319 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: this now. Anyone who fishes knows that cuts and pokes 320 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: and skin abrasions are just part of the fishing experience. 321 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: You can get them from hook's knives, catfish barbs, any 322 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: number of things. It's never a bad idea to have 323 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: a first aid get handy. Use clean water, good old 324 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: regular soap disinfectant. If you have it, antibiotic ointment to 325 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: patch yourself up. You never know what you're gonna encounter 326 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: and introduce into your specific and special biological system. But 327 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: if you don't have that stuff, do what Doc Callahan 328 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 2: would do. Soap and water. Okay, soap and water, no 329 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: matter how bad it hurts, soap and water. Moving on 330 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: to the conservation desk, Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers announced last 331 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: week that he has secured federal cash to complete the 332 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: largest land conservation purchase in Wisconsin history. The seventy thousand 333 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: acre property in northern Wistjohnson's Oneida County is known as 334 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: the Pelican River Forest. It contained sixty eight miles of 335 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: streams and twenty seven thousand acres of forested wetlands, straddling 336 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: the divide between the Lake Superior and Mississippi River basins. 337 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 2: This story should sound familiar, as we covered back in 338 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: episode one ninety four. Some lawmakers in Wisconsin wanted to 339 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: purchase this land from the Conservation Fund and protect it 340 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: from future development. Logging and recreation would still be permitted 341 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: on the property, but it wouldn't be used for things 342 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 2: like neighborhoods or shopping centers. The deal was set to 343 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: go through until some lawmakers on the state's finance committee 344 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: blocked it. They worried that exempting so much land from 345 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: development might harm the local economy and reduced tax revenue. 346 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: They successfully blocked the deal from moving forward last year, 347 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: but the governor just announced he had gone around the 348 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: legislature by securing federal funding. US Forest Service's Forest Legacy 349 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: Program will fund the state's share of the EASEMNT about 350 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: four million dollars. The remaining seventy five percent will be 351 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: paid by the US Forestry Service itself, so no state 352 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: dollars will be used. These meant guarant tees the land 353 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: will be left in an undeveloped state with public access 354 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: for hunting, fishing, trapping, and motorized recreation such as snowmobiles 355 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: and four wheelers. If you live in northern Wisconsin and 356 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 2: enjoy hunting and fishing in the Pelican River Forest, your 357 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: kids and grandkids will be able to do the same. 358 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: I'd say this is a big win for habitat, conservation 359 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: and outdoor recreation. And my goodness, is it a great 360 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 2: opportunity for you to write in to your elected officials 361 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: and say thank you for getting this done. They like 362 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 2: to hear good things too. Moving on to the bad 363 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: bill desk, the Washington State Senate is considering a bill 364 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: that would ban fur and fur products from being sold 365 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: in the state. Senate Bill six two ninety four defines 366 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: fur as any animal skin with hair, fleece, or fur 367 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 2: fibers attached, either in its raw or processed state. It 368 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: defines fur product as any article of clothing that is 369 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: made of fur in whole or in part. The bill 370 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: exempts cow hide, deer, scanned, goat skin, or sheep skin, 371 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 2: as well as the pelt or skin of an animal 372 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: that is preserved through taxidermy. That might sound like a 373 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 2: favorite of sportsman, but the reality is that this bill 374 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: would crush the trapping industry in Washington. Listener Connor Hankinson, 375 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: who sent me this bill, also points out that it 376 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: would impact fly fishing. Many fly lures are made with 377 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: animal hair, and this bill would, as Connor says, destroy 378 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: the fly tying and fly fishing in our state. If 379 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: you live in Washington State, get on the phone with 380 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 2: your state rep and tell them to vote no on 381 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 2: SB six two ninety four. The New Mexico legislature is 382 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: considering a raft of bills that would restrict gun ownership 383 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 2: in the state. House Bill one twenty nine would impose 384 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: a fourteen day waiting period to purchase a firearm. House 385 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: Bill one thirty seven would ban the sale of gas 386 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: operated semi automatic firearms. These would include popular models like 387 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: the AAR fifteen, as well as some shotguns. Current owners 388 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: would be allowed to keep their rifles, but they would 389 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: have to register them with the state. Other bills would 390 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 2: raise the minimum age to own a firearm, limit legal 391 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: ammunition magazines, and open up gun companies to lawsuits. If 392 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 2: you live in New Mexico and you care about gun rights, 393 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 2: this is the year to get involved. Several of these 394 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: bills failed to pass the last legislative session, but the 395 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: governor is about to pass them this year. That's all 396 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: I've got for you this week. Thank you so much 397 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: for listening, and remember to write in to ask c 398 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,239 Speaker 2: A L. That's Askcal at the meeteater dot com. Let 399 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 2: me know what's going on in your neck of the woods. 400 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 2: Thanks again, and I'll talk to you next week.