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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, prepare yourselves

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Speaker 1: because it's the B Movie Cancelation Special. That's right, I'm

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Speaker 1: taking on B Movie to hold it accountable for all

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Speaker 1: of its be crimes. We're gonna fact check the entire

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Speaker 1: movie and I will tell you the real, fascinating truth

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Speaker 1: about bees. But Katie, you might say B Movie came

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Speaker 1: out in two thousand seven, isn't it too late to

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Speaker 1: talk about it in such passionate detail. That's where you're

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Speaker 1: freaking wrong. It's never too late to take B Movie

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Speaker 1: to task for its in accuracies, sexism, and slander against bees.

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Speaker 1: Joining me today to dissect, destroy, and overthrow the B

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Speaker 1: Movie are the perfect duo to take on this incredibly

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Speaker 1: important task. The hosts of the Bechdel Podcast Movie Experts,

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Speaker 1: Feminist dream Team be Appreciators, Caitlin Durante and Jamie loft

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Speaker 1: us h. We love bees. I think the bees are problematic,

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Speaker 1: but they're capitalists. But are they so many thoughts? So

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Speaker 1: much to discuss? Yes, much to discuss. Yeah, this movie.

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Speaker 1: It's galvanizing, isn't it. I think it galvanizes the nation.

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Speaker 1: It's divisive, it's it's a flashpoint. You know. So you guys,

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Speaker 1: you guys have watched the B movie in question. Yes

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Speaker 1: we did, Yes, I just watched it last night for

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Speaker 1: the first time. I will say there are many different

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Speaker 1: lenses through which you can analyze and examine this movie.

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Speaker 1: I would say, examining it from a strictly screen running

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Speaker 1: point of view, I would say it is one of

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Speaker 1: the worst movies I've ever seen. It's okay, I mean, yes,

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Speaker 1: is it bad, Yes, yes, But it's like switches it's

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Speaker 1: it kept switching genres so often that I was captivated.

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Speaker 1: I was like, wait a second, this is a this

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Speaker 1: is a legal drama. And we decided that two thirds

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Speaker 1: of the way through it was a rom com. It

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Speaker 1: started as a rom com that I was really not

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Speaker 1: on board with between a B and a human female

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Speaker 1: and also the human female, like, I think it's very

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Speaker 1: I feel like the B Jerry Seinfeld B Barry B.

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Speaker 1: Benson is very much getting like, for lack of a

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Speaker 1: better phrase, very much getting friend zoned. Like I don't

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Speaker 1: think renee Zellwigger is in love with the B but

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Speaker 1: he keeps being like, oh, I don't have a human girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, you don't, right, No, she's never

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Speaker 1: reciprocated in any way. Yeah, isn't she dating Patrick Warburton

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Speaker 1: in this that relationship? Yeah, she does break up with him,

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Speaker 1: I think because he is a jerk. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is a lesson for for all guys who kind

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Speaker 1: when they're in a bad relationship. Just because they get

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Speaker 1: out of a bad relationship doesn't mean they're going to

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Speaker 1: have sex with a B. I mean, thank you finally someone.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know how much I needed to hear that.

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Speaker 1: I think you knew it internally, but it's good to

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Speaker 1: hear it like externally. I've never heard it exactly. So

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Speaker 1: I actually talked about the B movie on Abe Everson

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Speaker 1: in Michael Swim's podcast Frame Rate, and we dissected the movie.

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Speaker 1: But I really wanted to get it more into the

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Speaker 1: B biology because I mean, this may come as a

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Speaker 1: shock to you guys, but this movie doesn't quite get

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Speaker 1: it right, does not quite get the biology of bees right.

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Speaker 1: And this is a pattern with movies about bees or

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Speaker 1: hive structures where it just like does not pay attention

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Speaker 1: bunch of brobes guy bees going around and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get into chad bees exactly, so we're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: all the nitty gritty of every way this movie is

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Speaker 1: wrong biologically, philosophically, morally, uh so spiritually animatedly, like the

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Speaker 1: The shot where he's on the tennis ball and gravity

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Speaker 1: a cartoon, I mean, well, I guess specifically like character

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Speaker 1: five seconds, like so many John good Man, You're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the B movie and anything was going to send you

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Speaker 1: my life. M hm. So in this first section, which

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Speaker 1: I'm actually just gonna go through the movie in the

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Speaker 1: order in which the movie appears and fact check everything.

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Speaker 1: So it starts out with this incredible, famous, infamous quote.

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Speaker 1: According to all known laws of aviation, there is no

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Speaker 1: way a bee should be able to fly. Its wings

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Speaker 1: the ground. The bee, of course flies anyway, because bees

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Speaker 1: don't care what humans think is possible. So a couple

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Speaker 1: of things, well several things. It's not true at all.

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Speaker 1: laws of physics there. But even according to laws of

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Speaker 1: But that's because physicists in the nineties didn't know anything

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Speaker 1: It's not like it's not like before physicists were like,

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Speaker 1: what evil? Is this? What a weird hell that would

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Speaker 1: is wrong. Physics canceled. So. One of the problems with

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Speaker 1: something weird? Never mind? So okay. Second falsehood in the

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Speaker 1: the inexplicable court case. Maybe I should give a summary

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Speaker 1: for the court case. No, Actually, Jamie and Caitlin, do

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Speaker 1: the entire movie in like two minutes for it? You're yeah, Caitlin,

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, Like a pretty big

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00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: sounds like a pretty big death a grand more. Yeah.

423
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: So basically, all the like the pollen jocks or whatever

424
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: they're called in the movie, would not be male female. Yeah,

425
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: and we're actually going to get into this in the

426
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: next section right after the break, but yeah, absolutely there

427
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: would be all like in the movie they show all

428
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: of these pollen jocks. They're all these buff males and

429
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: absolutely just complete patriarchal capitalist propaganda. Totally wrong. Um, so

430
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: we are going to hear the real truth that they

431
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: don't want you to hear the break that alright, So

432
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: perhaps the most glaring flaw of the movie is the

433
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: fact that it seems that b society is mostly males

434
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: and they basically do all of the jobs, which is

435
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: not true at all. Like the dean of be College

436
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: is a male. All the pollen jocks, which are the

437
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: bees that go out and pollinate and I guess they're

438
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: supposed to be sort of military esque, those are all males.

439
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: The every like every bee I saw in the movie

440
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: that was in some position of power was a male,

441
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: except for the Queen, which they never showed like they

442
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: or maybe I don't think so. I kept expecting to

443
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: see to meet the queen and that she would have

444
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: at least something to do, but then it never I

445
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: wonder if there's because there's like too many writers like

446
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: on this movie. I'm like, maybe there's a version of

447
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: this script where they did meet the queen, because you

448
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: see if you I feel like, if you're making a

449
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: movie about bees and you don't That was in my

450
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: notes too. I was just like, why do we meet

451
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: Renee Zellwiger but we didn't meet the queen bee? How mean? Yeah,

452
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: it's much more interesting to follow the story of a

453
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: bee who wants to have sex with a human than

454
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: it is to meet the bee queen, I suppose, I mean,

455
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: And I do see the logic there. Yeah, we needed it.

456
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: We needed like a thirty minute court case instead of

457
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: meeting the bee queen. Can I tell you what I

458
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: thought this movie was going to be about, because I

459
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: honestly knew absolutely nothing about it before I watched it.

460
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: Is it honey bees that like they do a little

461
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: dance for each other to tell their fellow be how

462
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: to get to flowers or whatever wherever they need to

463
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: go to do their busy work. There be work, right, Um?

464
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: I thought this movie was going to be about someone

465
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: getting lost or like getting getting separated from the hive

466
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: or something and then having to figure out how to

467
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: get back home homeward bound. But with these exactly, that's

468
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: exactly it. Watch. I was sort of be owned nice.

469
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: I was. I was sort of wondering whether it was

470
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: going to turn into like the movie was kind of

471
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: flip flopping on, like what genre is this? What is

472
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: this actually about? But when he was like going to

473
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: the honey Farm, like, oh, it's a yeah, like you're

474
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: saying it's a journey movie, I thought Chris chrispy libation,

475
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: and I thought Chris Rock Mosquito was going to be

476
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: there for more than three minutes. But then I was

477
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: that I was genuinely shocked when Chris rock b was

478
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: just like see you later. I was like, why did

479
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: we then? Why did that even happen? Why we thought

480
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: I was in in with Chris rock Mosquito right. I

481
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be like about be Liberation,

482
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: where like he goes and he you know, helps the

483
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: bees rise up against there. But now it's like, oh,

484
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: that would be boring. Instead, we should have a court case.

485
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: That's where the excitement is. John Goodman and Oprah You're like,

486
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: what is happening? Yeah, it's it's such a it's such

487
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: a like I guess sort of Hollywood elite way of

488
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: thinking about a dramatic scene in a movie is like,

489
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: instead of it being about like bees fighting for their freedom,

490
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: it's bees in a in a long court case that

491
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: ends up being bad for the bees, I guess, because

492
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: it's like, Oh, you shouldn't have tried. You should have

493
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: tried to have rights. Oops. Oops, you've destroyed the planet

494
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: by having rights exactly. And also, this is a movie

495
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: for children. Children don't want to see a long drawn

496
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: out court like drama. Yeah, that was the other thing.

497
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, who was? I feel like this movie was

498
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: way more for parents. It was supposed to be like

499
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: parents who had watched Seinfeld who wanted to make their

500
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: kids sit through something like that was as close as

501
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: I could get, because this is definitely not for kids.

502
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: When kids wants to see a be have sex with

503
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: Renee's l Werger, no, I mean, what adult done? Being honest?

504
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: I mean, was I rooting for them? No? But but

505
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: back to back to be feminism. The this movie and

506
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: so many other like like you know, insect based movies

507
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: like Ants A Bunch of Life is actually a little

508
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: better on this on this level, but like this whole

509
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: thing where all the like their worker ants that are

510
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: um most of them are like male, and it's actually

511
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: the opposite. Every single worker, every single one is female

512
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: and they are all sisters. So males, like I said,

513
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: our drones and their only job is to have sex

514
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: and die. It's a cool gig. Look I'm not knocking

515
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: once again a species where life as a man is

516
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: much easier. And if they fail to go off and mate,

517
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: they will be evicted from the colony because then it's like, hey,

518
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, you don't you don't really serve that much purpose.

519
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: Like the only kind of job that the male drones

520
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: do is they can help vibr Like sometimes the bees

521
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: all like gathered together and vibrate to to heat the hive,

522
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: like keep it warmer, and bees will do the male

523
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: bees will do that as well, so a little helpful.

524
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: They have side side gigs. They have a bit of

525
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: a side hustle. Yeah, this sounds like there could have

526
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: been like a really cool like B movie nine to

527
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: five thing of like all these women are overworked and

528
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: underpaid and like we've got that that like that would

529
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: be why God they're so any stories. Yep, yep, that's

530
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: that's the point I keep making. Like with movies about animals,

531
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: it's like if you pay a little bit of attention

532
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: to evolutionary biology. I mean Finding Nemo is a great example,

533
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: because that was a great movie and they actually did

534
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: look into a lot of like cool aspects of marine

535
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: biology and they put that in the film and it

536
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: was great. Um. So yeah, So there are a few

537
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: hundred male drones in a hive, but that's compared to

538
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,239
Speaker 1: twenty thousand to eighty thousand female worker bees, so they

539
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: are vastly outnumbered. And it just doesn't make sense for

540
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: there to be a b patriarchy of this gender male

541
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: bees like that, doesn't you know? It's not getting mad? Yes, yeah,

542
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 1: Every single job from nursing to building, to clearing out cells,

543
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: to collecting nectar and pollen, the so called pollen jocks

544
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: are all done by female bees. So yeah, And and

545
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: it's the whole reason that the hives are you social

546
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: where they all work together is really interesting because it's

547
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: based on this like the weird genetics of be reproduction. So, uh,

548
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: bees don't have sex like humans. I mean that should

549
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: be clear enough, right, because like humans, weeners don't explode

550
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: after well, not to differ, I've made every man I've

551
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: ever had sex with their penis has exploded immediately afterwards. Yeah,

552
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: it's like you'd be the kill count between the two

553
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: of us. As he's dying, he's like, I swear this

554
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: has never happened before. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. Yeah. Right,

555
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: as you're about to go into like frantic reassurance mode,

556
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, well, great, saved myself about it just disintegrating. Yeah, um,

557
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: so be female bees result from eggs. Wait, let me

558
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: first say this. Bees are happiloid diploid, which uh sounds

559
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: a little bit like a band, like a C D

560
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: C has hap happioid diploid. Yeah, and what that means

561
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: is that they both have diploid and haploid offspring. So

562
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: diploid means two sets of chromosomes from two parents, and

563
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: haploid means one set of chromosomes from one parent. So

564
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: female bees result from eggs that have been fertilized by

565
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: a male. So the queen mates with males, fertilizes an

566
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: egg that becomes her daughter. Uh, And that that egg

567
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: and that resulting bee is diploid. And if the when

568
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: the queen wants to have a male, she will not

569
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: fertilize the egg, and that egg will be haploid. So

570
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: the males, the son's only get jeans from their mother,

571
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: whereas the daughters, the females it jeans from both their

572
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 1: mothers and their fathers. So this has some really funky

573
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: results in the hive structure. So what I wrote down

574
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: here in my notes as funky genetic shenanigans, So that

575
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: haploid diploid, some funky genetic shennanigan. So males cannot have sons,

576
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: they can only have grandsons. So when a male be

577
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: mates with a queen, his his pp explodes and he's gone.

578
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: But then the queen can pass his genes onto daughters,

579
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: but he but she does not pass them on to

580
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: sons because her sons only get her DNA. So the

581
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: male be does not have sons but her daughters, and

582
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: his daughters can then reproduce become queen bees like some

583
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: of her daughters will be fed as their larva what's

584
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: called royal jelly, which is a special nutrient rich honey

585
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: that actually triggers them to develop into queen bees rather

586
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: than worker bees and those like little pokemon, and they

587
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: become they actually are very much like pokemon because they're

588
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: in their little cells, just like all bumbled up in there.

589
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: It's really funny. And they will emerge as queens and

590
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: they can reproduce. And when they reproduce, because they have

591
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: both their mother and their father's DNA, and they give

592
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: their sons all their DNA, the males will have grandsons

593
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: but not sons. Does that make sense. It's a little confusing,

594
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: I think. So that's really fascinating. Yes, man, Jerry Seinfeld

595
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: could have googled like one thing. That's amazing. I have

596
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: no idea. Yeah. Yeah, So basically, queen mates with male,

597
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: male explodes, penis falls off. Queen has daughters, daughters have

598
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: both mom and Dad DNA. Queens have sons son only

599
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: have Mom DNA. Queens some of queen's daughters become queens

600
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: themselves and they have daughters which have their DNA and

601
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: the guy they had sex with, and then their sons

602
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: have just their DNA, but that DNA also has their

603
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: grandfather's DNA and it now I want, now I want

604
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: a version of what am I thinking? I want? Like

605
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: be the Crown right exactly? Oh, man, Be the Crown

606
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: would be so cool. You get you get doctor who

607
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: to play like a b very briefly he explodes exactly like, yeah,

608
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: the same he explodes, and then like Prince Charles explodes.

609
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: It would just be nice to see the royal family explode,

610
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: is maybe, what right? I mean, like, I haven't seen

611
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: the the newer season with Princess Diane in it, but

612
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: from what I'm hearing, it would be nice to see

613
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: all of the male royals explode, like, oh, you're gonna

614
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: want Prince Charles to eggsplode. And you see this season

615
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: so queens queens can mate with multiple drones during multiple

616
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: mating swarm events, So that that makes be relatedness and

617
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: hives a little bit more complicated than sort of just

618
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: simply all of the females are sisters and are equally related.

619
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 1: There can be like they can have the same mother

620
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: but have different fathers. And actually, queen bees will collect

621
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of sperm and use it for several years,

622
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: just like all right, I got enough for I'm good

623
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: for like for a while. Yeah, do that too, sorry. So,

624
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: and now this is the key to why bees remain

625
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: you social, why the sister bees, the worker bees aren't

626
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: con stantly trying to reproduce or to strike out on

627
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: their own because having a like developing selflessness in evolutionary

628
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: biology doesn't necessarily make sense. Right, If you're selfless and

629
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: you sacrifice yourself for the greater good, then your genes

630
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: don't get passed on, and so then it's like, oh well,

631
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: then obviously selflessness should completely die out. Of course we

632
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: don't see that, right, So it is more complicated, like

633
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: you have in very pro social society's like human society,

634
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: we do have generosity selflessness, and that's because when humans

635
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: are social and work together, even though we're not i

636
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't say the most good animal in terms of being

637
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: hardy and surviving. We look at us, look, I mean,

638
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: look at us, really, take a good long look at us.

639
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: You're not gonna like what you see. But we can

640
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: work together and then that's how we survived. And so

641
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: through these very this very like strong social connection. Now

642
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: we're not you social like, we still want to reproduce

643
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: ourselves and so you know that's so like we still

644
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: look out for our own individual interests. But in general,

645
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: if you have a society where basically if you want

646
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: to help out and be empathetic and kind and you

647
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: get along in this society, you're you along with everyone

648
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: else are more likely to survive and reproduce with these

649
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: big colonies. It's interesting again, they don't have sex like humans.

650
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: They have this happloid diploid system, so it makes relatedness

651
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: a little bit weird. So sisters are more related to

652
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: each other on average than to their own offspring. Um.

653
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: So uh they are um and which is actually true

654
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: with humans as well. But um, they are much more

655
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: related to their siblings than to their offspring. So they

656
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: are uh fifty related to a daughter related to a son.

657
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: They get you know, basically, the daughter gets uh you know,

658
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: the half their chromosomes and half the the their partner

659
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 1: the male partner's chromosomes. Their son only gets their own chromosomes,

660
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: but just like half of their own chromosomes. But on

661
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: average they are three fourths related to their sisters uh

662
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: due to everyone getting some mixture of their father and

663
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: mother's DNA um through sort of the like I said,

664
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: the genetic shenanigans um and by ensuring the survival of

665
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: her sisters and making sure at least some of them

666
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: survived to be fed royal jelly and become queens, that

667
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: shared DNA that they all have that causes them to

668
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: be used. Social is more likely to get passed on.

669
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: So the way to think about jeans, I think is

670
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: not like that an individual b is like I want

671
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: to pass on my genes. It's that if genes code

672
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: for a certain behavior, and then those genes that code

673
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: for that behavior get passed on, then that's it. They

674
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: get passed on. They are successful genes. So like, even

675
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: if you're an individual and you're like, you know you,

676
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: but you share the same genes that make you be

677
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: selfless with another individual, uh, and then like those same

678
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: genes are inside a larva that you feed this royal

679
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: jelly and then she goes on, becomes a queen, has sex,

680
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: explodes a penis as we all like to do, and

681
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: starts her own hive colony. The genes that you had

682
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: in you that made you selfless and contribute to the

683
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: hive she has in her, and she passes on to

684
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: a new hive, a new brood, and they all have

685
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: as well. So that's you know, that's how you sociality.

686
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so much I'm really overly simplifying it.

687
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: Knows it is a lot. In fact, it's there's a

688
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: lot of controversy. I might like some people are like, well, actually,

689
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: there's this whole other theory about it. It's there's a

690
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: lot of argument about like how exactly it works, but

691
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: essentially that that's kind of the most basic way to

692
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: explain it. So be so also be there's drama in

693
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: like the B community. Yeah, and I mean there's yeah,

694
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: I mean not just the B community, but the whole

695
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: uh entomology community about you sociality about hive structures. I mean,

696
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: it gets superheated. There have been like some rude changes

697
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: between like EO. Wilson and other other entomologists. It's really

698
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: it's like it is serious. They get really heated because

699
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: it is if it gets spicy, I'm going to keep

700
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: it gets very spicy, right, because the whole concept of selflessness,

701
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: right and evolution really throws a monkey wrench into things.

702
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: And it is explicable, but it's very difficult. It's like

703
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of complex um basically like calculations, genetic

704
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: calculations as well as sort of probability things. I can't

705
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: get into it because um oh I definitely know it

706
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: and understand it all, but um you know, there's just

707
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: no time. This is the time issue. Time issue. Everything

708
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: you just told us just now is a way better

709
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: like seed for an idea than really anything that happens

710
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: in B B. Right. This is what gets me right

711
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: is that it's so like like if you had sort

712
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,959
Speaker 1: of some b like you're saying, be the Crown would

713
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 1: be incredible where you have you know, because queens do fight,

714
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: so queens will fight each other to the death. Like So,

715
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: first of all, one cool fact another fact check of

716
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 1: B movie is that males do not have stingers. Only

717
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: females have stingers. Remember when I said that they are

718
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: modified female reproductive organs those stingers. Males don't have them.

719
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,959
Speaker 1: So Broderick wouldn't have had a stinger. Oh, he would

720
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: not have. Matthew Broderick b in the movie stings the

721
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: the defense attorney Humanity, yeah, the John Goodman character, and

722
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: stings him in the butt and then he goes to

723
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: the hospital because, as Barry B. Benson explains, like bees

724
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: when they sting often don't survive it. And then he

725
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: gets like a prosthetic stinger. That's like, I guess I

726
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: cocked one of those little cocktail swords. Anyways, No, be

727
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: male bees do not have stingers. It is true that

728
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: when bees sting. It often comes off with a big

729
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: chunk of their guts and so they die, which is,

730
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: you know, sad. I know, it's really sad. I got

731
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: stuck by be like about a month ago, and it

732
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: was just like it landed on my head and I

733
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: didn't realize it was a bee. So I like wiped

734
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: it off and it was like, no, don't attack me,

735
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: and then it stung my finger. I was just like no,

736
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna hurt you. Why and just like kneeling

737
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: by the bee, why we could have been friends, howling

738
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: to the heavens. You could have been Yeah, you could

739
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: have fallen in love with just like just mouth to mouth,

740
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,959
Speaker 1: like come on, come on, you can do it. Don't

741
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: go towards don't go towards the honey. Don't go towards

742
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: the honey. This is more this is more like movie

743
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: stuff too. But I was also very confused about much

744
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: like the rules of travel in this movie, the rules

745
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: of like humans being able to hear bees, or like

746
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: how often you can break the rules, because it seems

747
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: like very bent and he like brought up the rule

748
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: in voiceover then immediately broke it, and then everyone and

749
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: then later he was speaking in a human court like,

750
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: and everyone was like, oh, yeah, no, I don't. It's

751
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: so dumb because the movie explains it as we have

752
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: this rule you don't talk to humans. It's like, well, well,

753
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: why why do you have that rule? And then he

754
00:47:53,440 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: breaks it and there's no consequences, so every yeah, yeah,

755
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: it really is. What was I talking about? I was

756
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: talking about stingers for some reason because they're sexy. Oh well,

757
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: someone stung you and then yeah, be stung me. I

758
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 1: I cradled it in my arms as it passed away,

759
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: and how it's tiny little be hands. Um wait, I

760
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: have a question about um, like the female larva be

761
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: be larva that might become a queen, so they have

762
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: to be fed this royal jelly, which is my new

763
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: favorite thing. Uh, is there any other like how does

764
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: the queen, like the mother queen bee, choose which bees

765
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,959
Speaker 1: get the royal jelly? Is there any other like criteria

766
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: that like a larva bee might have to have or

767
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: like how do is there anything? I think it's a

768
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: pheromone signal, right, like a pheromone signal, feed this one

769
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: royal jelly. Any larva in theory could become a queen

770
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: bee because every larva has the genes to become a

771
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: queen bee, but by being fed the royal jelly. It's

772
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: it's how like genes are so interesting because like gene

773
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: expression can really modulate like what someone is. So like

774
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: your genes that are like a recipe and then the

775
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: gene expression is like how you put together Wait, now

776
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: your your genes are like the ingredients. And then the

777
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: gene expression is like the recipe where you put together

778
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: the meal that is you and so so I there's

779
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: probably my gifts would be that. Like there's some instinct

780
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: about like maintaining a number of queen bees, like you

781
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: don't want too many because that would be too much competition,

782
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: and so this like uh, and they actually will like

783
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: in certain cases kill off like once a new queen emerges,

784
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 1: like she will signal for the workers to kill off

785
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: her sister queens because yeah to like pa company, Yeah exactly.

786
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: Be be game of Thrones. It's game. It's a throne

787
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: made out of a bunch of stingers. And then they're like,

788
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: is that someone's butt still attached to the stingers? Like,

789
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Way better story also than be yes, damn,

790
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: that is wild. Yeah, yeah, it's and it's yeah it

791
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: is like um, you know, be so oh right. What

792
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: I was saying is that queens do have stingers. Unlike

793
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: worker bees, they don't typically use their stingers because worker

794
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: bees will sting you. They their stinger falls off along

795
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: with most of their butt, which kills them and it

796
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: releases a pheromone that signals for other workers to come

797
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: and sting you because you're a threat. And that's why

798
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: bees will like like swarm and sting you a bunch

799
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: of times if you're unlucky. Queen bees actually are very docile.

800
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: They don't like to sting humans. In fact, beekeepers like

801
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: noe like how like you can. I wouldn't recommend it

802
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: because they will sting you if they're very distressed. Also

803
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: don't like distressed bees don't do what's mean. But like

804
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,959
Speaker 1: you know, if you handle a queen bee, it's she's

805
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: much less likely to sting you. Uh, And they're quite

806
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: docile around humans because they don't really you know, like

807
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: for them, it's like I'm not gonna like attack, Um,

808
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going to use my precious stinger to attack

809
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: like whatever. This is like I'm saving it for some

810
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: like some royal uh succession backstabbing to like attack other

811
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: queen bees. Season four, episode one plotline, right the red wedding,

812
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: it's just a bunch of bees. Yeah yeah, it could

813
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 1: be really terrifying and dramatic if exactly God, Jerry Seinfeld,

814
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: I mean there's so many like just like that's the

815
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: best you could do. Right. The movie we could have

816
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: had is like b Game of Thrones with like B

817
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: B Searcy, uh, you know, like like stabbing her own

818
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: b daughters and then what we got is you like, Jim,

819
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: this movie could and should have been rated are Yeah, yeah,

820
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: be incest, be like gott to be be incest? Right

821
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: if like all the all the sisters and brothers are

822
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: they're in the same hive, and it would have been

823
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: extreme and it would have been like there would have

824
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: been actual stakes for that in the bee colony because

825
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: they really try to avoid incest because it's not good,

826
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: not good for the hive for that. So you know,

827
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: B Searcy and Jamie would have been in a lot

828
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: of trouble. Let me tell you. Those those bees they

829
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: don't take kindly to that. Also, Jamie's would have exploded,

830
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: which would have been cool, right, which for the thing

831
00:52:52,160 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, really could have saved us a couple of hours.

832
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: So like the whole instigating incident for the movie, which

833
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: like quickly becomes something else entirely, which is just like right,

834
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: because where it's like, oh, I don't want to be

835
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: stuck with one job for my whole be life, and

836
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: then it becomes I want to have sex with Renee's elwigger,

837
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: and then it becomes I have to win a court

838
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: case to give bees back their honey, and then it

839
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: becomes Oops, it turns out exploitative capitalism is the only

840
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: way we've gotta We've gotta start being exploited again, or

841
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: else all the flowers die. But that first premise, right

842
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: of like bees only have one job to do, is

843
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: totally not true. Bees have every job that you can

844
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: do in the hive throughout their life, which is I

845
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,959
Speaker 1: think really interesting. So uh, like every worker be which

846
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: again they're all female, will basically do every job that

847
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: needs to be done except for being the queen and

848
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: and reproducing throughout their lives. So queen bees only have

849
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: like the one job, which is reproducing mating, uh and

850
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: like releasing pheromones. Um, it's sort of like keep keep

851
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: order around the high every horny, keep everyone horny. Actually

852
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: no opposite, keep most of them not horny, but like uh,

853
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: and then the but then the jobs that they do

854
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: just depends on their age. So they they emerge, you know,

855
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: they emerge from as they start off as a larva.

856
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: They they emerge into adult bees and then they start

857
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: doing self cleaning immediately um. And then they'll do other

858
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: jobs like nursing, scouting, going out and collecting pollen and nectar,

859
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: and that all depends on their age because like as

860
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: they mature, they become more able to do these other jobs.

861
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: So basically the whole premise of the movie is wrong

862
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: bees do every job throughout their lives and so yeah,

863
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: good job, good job, num skulls. So it's like a

864
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: starting out in the mail room kind of thing, and

865
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: you were right, right, okay, so it is it is

866
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: be capitalism, and you have to really pull yourself off

867
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: your by your little bee bootstraps, by your b straps. Uh.

868
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: The least inaccurate part of the movie is that Barry B.

869
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: Benson wants to have sex with Rene's Elwiger. I think

870
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: so bees are notoriously stupid when it comes to mating

871
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: because they are in such a frenzy to a mate

872
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: that they can be tricked by flowers to try to

873
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: mate with them instead. So there is an old world

874
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 1: orchid called the oh Freeze or be orchid, which has

875
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: brown and yellow coloration that mimics that of a bee. Uh.

876
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: Actually encourage you guys, just like google imaging it? Right,

877
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:04,959
Speaker 1: what's the phrase we're googling? Be orchid? Be orchid? Yeah,

878
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: that just looks like it looks kind of like a

879
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 1: like a bumblebee maybe yeah. Yeah, And different or different

880
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: types of these orchids will have different patterns and kind

881
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: of trick different bees. But this's so sneaky. Yeah, and

882
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: it tricks the drones into uselessly humping the orchid. And

883
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: the orchid it's not just that the orchid is a pervert.

884
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 1: It's that the orchid wants to be pollinated. And usually

885
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 1: when flowers want to be pollinated, they offer some reward

886
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: to pollinators, so that maybe nectar, uh, maybe some kind

887
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: of stinky, juicy goo that smells like rotting carrion um,

888
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: but whatever it is, there is some reward for the

889
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: insect pollinators, so they will get inside the flowers business

890
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: get all covered in that sweet, sweet pollen and then

891
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: pass it on to the next flower. Yeah, get rubbed

892
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: up against that stamen. Bees do it? So I love.

893
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: I love how like strategy. I mean, I guess that's

894
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: all of nature, but so strategically horny, so strategically horny.

895
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,439
Speaker 1: And but these orchids are like, no, no, no, we're

896
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: not going to give you any nectar because producing nectar

897
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: for a plant is costly. It costs energy to produce nectar.

898
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: So these organs are like, no, We're just gonna look

899
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: like a be Like, hey, there's a sailor. I'm a

900
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm a hot sexy bee. Don't you want me with me?

901
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm not a flower. Look at me without my bee parts.

902
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: Buzz buzz buzz wink. So how I pick up then? Yeah? Absolutely? Yeah.

903
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: It's doing a little hip shake with its like flower

904
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: like like it's little flower leaves, like putting one one

905
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: leaf on its stem and like like shaking its stem

906
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: like it's its hips like waving my arms around in circles. Okay,

907
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: which is how I dance. Really get them going? Yeah, So,

908
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: so the orchids will trick these poor bees into just

909
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: uselessly humping them getting the be covered in the pollen,

910
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: and the bee is none the wiser maybe eventually figures

911
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: it out. It's like I've been I can't I haven't

912
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: exploded yet. I must be onto something. Yeah. It also

913
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: tricks non honey bees as well, So so there are

914
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: a lot of bees out there that are not Actually

915
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: they do not live in hives. They're not, you social.

916
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: They all reproduce on their own and they have their

917
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: own things going on. So uh yeah, not not all

918
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: bees live in hives. That's that's one thing to consider. Wait,

919
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: I just thought of another plot for the movie that

920
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: would have been better for the one that we currently have.

921
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: If the main beach Jerry Jerry Springer Jerry Seinfeld's Yeah, yes,

922
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: let's just recast Jerry Seinfeld. But if like the main

923
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: bee of the movie fell in love with a flower

924
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: thinking it was another bee, and then like that was

925
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: the unrequited love story, that's a way better. That makes

926
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: so much more sense than a bee falling in love

927
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: with a human woman. Right, and it's voiced by a

928
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: day drunk like Anna Faris. Yeah, the flower can be sentient.

929
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: I think that's important for the story. It's or it's

930
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: like or is it sentient or is it all in

931
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: the bees mind? Would we have like an unreliable narrator

932
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: situation now now we're now we're talking like a psychological thriller.

933
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: That's a fun that's a fun twist. There would be

934
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: like a fight club twist at the end. The flower

935
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 1: was in the bee was the same person the whole time. Second,

936
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: I was just projecting onto the flower. The flower wasn't

937
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: even like but we slow danced and it just like

938
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: it shows like the Joker, like the Joker be joker. Okay,

939
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: you know what I think that that was? That was

940
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: naturally where this was gonna land. So I'm just glad

941
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: we got there. Why so serious? Incredible? Yeah, Another I

942
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 1: guess untruth in the movie has to do with the

943
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: whole scene where like Barry b. Benson happens upon the

944
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: be I just I don't even like to talk. It's

945
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: just like so ridiculous. The bee hives that are owned

946
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: by humans and they represent them as like these like

947
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: work camps, which is just gross, Like don't do that

948
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:43,479
Speaker 1: in your movie, you know for kids. Yeah, they also

949
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: mentioned like slavery and like there's just a lot of

950
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:54,479
Speaker 1: weird likening to really horrible traumatic historical events that which

951
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: again in the end they're like, actually that was better,

952
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: which is the mess, the fact that they land on

953
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: the side of all the horrible stuff. In the end,

954
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: it's like, well, let's cut all those lines in the

955
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: first past like there's just right weird, like weird and

956
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: then insensitive jokes that I don't Yeah, here's another it's

957
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: actually prison labor is good because if you don't do that,

958
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: then I mean, I guess, And you're like, how do

959
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: we get honey, Yeah, I mean I guess to give

960
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: it the benefit of the data, I guess. In the end,

961
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: it's like they don't do that, like they don't do

962
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: it that bad. But again it's sort of this like

963
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 1: you know, instead of having just universal workers rights and everything,

964
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: it's just like just have a lawyer buyer side. Another

965
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: part of this is not only is it does Barry B.

966
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: Benson upset at the exploitation of free labor, which is

967
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: something to be upset about. Obviously, he's also upset about

968
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: it's almost like the appropriation of like b culture is

969
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: another aspect of this where he's just like any humans

970
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: are appropriating be culture that you love your honey and

971
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: that's not your thing, that's our thing. So there's all

972
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: this whole like montage where you see all these moments

973
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: of like again whatever people appropriating BE culture looks like

974
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: that's the other thing is like they use that term wrong.

975
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: It's not that humans were appropriating BE. They're stealing from

976
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: the bees for sure, but but that's not it's not

977
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's just like taking cheap So it's

978
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: just taking cheap shots at social justice, right. It's saying like, oh,

979
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 1: it's funny like when people actually have real grievances about

980
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: sort of like offensive cost costumes or using culture in

981
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: a way where it's like, hey, we've oppressed this culture

982
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: for thousands of years. Now we're gonna like do this weird,

983
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: like dumb thing or make it a mascot or something.

984
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: And then it's and which is you know, a legitimate thing.

985
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, but like what if bees were appropriated

986
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: their culture, wouldn't that be hilarious? It's pretty it's pretty reductive,

987
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: And it also feels like Jerry Seinfeld, who literally, if

988
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: they're going to do be Larry King, they should just

989
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: call him be Jerry Seinfeld. But whatever, Like but but

990
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: like yeah, Jerry, I feel like Jerry Seinfeldt even like

991
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: sowing those seeds of like, you know, liberal PC culture

992
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: makes me sick. Like in B movie you can't cancel bees,

993
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: you deal with Can's wing bees. That's his whole brand.

994
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: Now he's like, I won't do comedy at colleges because

995
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: these freaking millennials and their PC culture ruining comedy. And

996
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: it's just like, shut up, Jerry Sava. At the end

997
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: of the movie, they're literally like, actually, appropriation is good

998
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: because it's sharing, and sharing is caring, and exploiting our

999
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: labor is caring. It's but one of the so one

1000
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: of the like shots or one of the quick little

1001
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: scenes in this montage where it shows like this week

1002
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: again be culture appropriation being like taken back and reclaimed

1003
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: by the bees, is they literally murder Winnie the Pooh.

1004
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: Do you remember this? Oh my god, I do remember that.

1005
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how they got away with like this

1006
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: was not a Disney no, so they basically they there's

1007
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: a really quick shot of like Winnie the Pooh who

1008
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: famously loves honey, they like take his likeness and then

1009
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,919
Speaker 1: someone shoots him with like a tranquilizer dart that's funny. Though,

1010
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: that is funny. We need the Pooh. I'll give my

1011
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: hot take on Winnie the Pooh. We need the Pooh

1012
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,439
Speaker 1: is annoying and need to Yeah, because he's not Paddington Bear,

1013
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: the best freaking bear ever. There's no marmalade from many

1014
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: bears in my heart, but never Winnie the Poop, even

1015
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. And like Winnie the Pooh

1016
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: is like he really needs to like, you know, taking skill. Yeah,

1017
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't wear pants. He's just a mess. He's a mess. Uh,

1018
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: you know, stealing from bees. We need a Pooh. Yeah,

1019
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: And a topic for for another podcast on on a

1020
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: bear movie, perhaps for an episode on Paddington when you

1021
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: talk about how we should we should, we should do that.

1022
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: We'll do it. We'll do it because I had as

1023
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: much as I like Honey, I like Winnie the Pooh,

1024
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: but Paddington is obviously the best bear. We'll do. We'll

1025
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: do a bear. We'll do a bear the bear cast.

1026
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: I actually got a list of question which is like

1027
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: which bear is best? So we'll we'll have to do that.

1028
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: So another problem with that whole scene where he goes

1029
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: to like the be the bee farm, where all the

1030
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: bees are pressed in its gross for all the reasons

1031
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: we also just mentioned. They show the beekeepers as these

1032
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: evil like we're gonna smoke some bees. Now. These bullies

1033
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: and beekeepers are obsessively careful about their bees because if

1034
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: they don't take care of the bees and the bees die,

1035
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: that's super bad. And bees are extremely finicky. They see

1036
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: a few dead bees and they'll freak out because it's like,

1037
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: oh my god, because it doesn't it's not that it

1038
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: doesn't take that much for random stuff to happen and

1039
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: for a bee colony to collapse or for there to

1040
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,240
Speaker 1: be health problems in the colony. So they're obsessively caring

1041
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: for these bees health. That doesn't mean that they're not

1042
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: still exploiting the bees because when you and another problem

1043
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: with the movie, which is that like when you take

1044
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: honey from bees, they actually need all that honey, like

1045
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: because they make that honey not just for fun, they

1046
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: make it to feed the entire hive. So when you

1047
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: take the honey that they've made to feed the hive,

1048
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: they don't really have a bunch of just excess honey

1049
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: laying around. You are taking it from the bees that

1050
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: would otherwise use that to nourish the hives. So beekeepers

1051
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 1: actually have to give bees a sugary kind of like

1052
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: honey substitute, which is not as good, it's not as

1053
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: nutritious as the honey. So you do when you get

1054
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: honey from bees. It's not that I don't think that

1055
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: there's like it's impossible to sustainably be a beekeeper. It's

1056
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: just like you do. There is some cost to the bees,

1057
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: which is hopefully like as a beekeeper, you're trying to

1058
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: make up for that by you know, um taking good

1059
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: care of the bees. Another thing with that scene, as

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01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: they show them smoking out the bees and they show

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01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: all the bees coughing. When beekeepers use smoke, it's not

1062
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: to make all the bees choke and cough and like

1063
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: pass out. It's to mask be pheromone signals so they

1064
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: don't freak out. So the smoke interrupts their pheromone signal.

1065
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: So instead of like the bees, when they detect a

1066
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: threat to the hive, which they think the beekeeper is

1067
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: pretty justifiably because the beekeeper is there to collect their honey,

1068
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: they will swarm an attack, and so to keep them

1069
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: from doing that, they do the smoke, which both interrupts

1070
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 1: their pheromone signals. It also when bees smell forest fire,

1071
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: uh like the smoke that the beekeepers use, they think, oh,

1072
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 1: there's a forest fire, our hive might have to evacuate.

1073
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: So they start eating a bunch of honey, which actually

1074
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: kind of gets them like sort of drunk and mellow

1075
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: on this honey because they're just like gorging themselves on

1076
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: honey because if they do have to evacuate and have

1077
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: to move away from the hive, they want to collect

1078
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: as many resources as possible for the move, which in

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01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: their resources are honey. Uh So, so they just like

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01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: like once once the smoke starts to get in the hive,

1081
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: they're like, all right, it's honey a clock. Gals like,

1082
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: we gotta gotta have some honey. We gotta do it

1083
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 1: for the hive. God to do it for the hive.

1084
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 1: And they're just drinking bunch of honey thatose are great

1085
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: renew and thank you, thank you, that's good, thank you,

1086
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, Benson, you want to have sex with me? Human?

1087
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: How did that even physically work? Physically? Coffee? They're seene

1088
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: there first scene together, I'm like, this looks like it

1089
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: was written by a machine of like a wicked AI. Yeah.

1090
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: She's like, she's like, wait, you're be You're talking to me.

1091
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I'm not supposed to be here. I

1092
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: am you beautiful? And she's like, do you want coffee?

1093
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: Do you want k cat? Do you want some cake?

1094
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,759
Speaker 1: And I would have a taxi. He's like, oh, I shouldn't,

1095
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 1: but I guess I will, and then she just pours

1096
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: coffee on the ground for five seconds. That actually, that

1097
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 1: actually was the one part of the movie that kind

1098
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: of got me where it's where it's day drunken nay

1099
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 1: selwagor pouring coffee on the ground just in shock at

1100
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: a talking bee. There were multiple points in the movie

1101
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 1: where I did laugh because there was like I was

1102
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,680
Speaker 1: watching it with my partner and when it started, I

1103
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 1: was just like, I feel like Patrick Moore Burton is

1104
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: in this movie. And then within Twine right where you it,

1105
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: I was like, this movie just the whole energy just

1106
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: says for Patrick Warburton. He's also so correct, He's right

1107
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 1: the entire time. He's like, it's a B. Why are

1108
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: you talking to a B? And then she's like I

1109
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: gotta save this bees life and he's like, I am

1110
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: deadly allergic to bees, Like why are you risking very

1111
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: insensitive to his be right, because that's like he joke, right,

1112
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: like he has a B allergy. He sees a bee

1113
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 1: and he tries to swat it, like B allergies are

1114
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: super serious and as much as I like bees, I

1115
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 1: will kill b if it means preventing someone from having

1116
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: a B allergy, because those can kill you, which is terrible. Yeah,

1117
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 1: she's very She's like, God, you're so insensitive. And this

1118
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: is before this, maybe like if she had heard bees

1119
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: talk before, right, but this is before she knows bees

1120
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: are since she's just like this insects a lie is

1121
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: more important than your life. And my husband doesn't that

1122
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: like her husband, her boyfriend, it's not made clear. And

1123
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: then that's what we're supposed to think. She might break

1124
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:12,679
Speaker 1: up with him for be Jerry Seinfeld, right, and then

1125
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 1: like be Jerry Seinfeld, like gets a gets a B

1126
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 1: boner for her, like when he saved when she saves

1127
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 1: his life, because she's like, I don't care about your

1128
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: deadly BE allergy, you know, like it's more important to

1129
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: me to save this one insects life than you going

1130
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: into anaphylactic shock which if I was, you know, Patrick, uh,

1131
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: what's his name, Patrick Warburton. But yeah, like like I

1132
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: could really empathize with him because he's like, there bees guys,

1133
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: remember it's their bees. They're like bugs. He wasn't even

1134
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: necessarily trained to kill it. He was just trying to

1135
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:53,520
Speaker 1: get it from and he was panicking because again, anaphylactic

1136
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 1: shock is no joke. I guess one more point I

1137
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: wrote some now it's oh, here's my here's my note.

1138
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: Rene Selbiger sounds drunk in this movie, I wrote, still

1139
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: a better movie than Trial of the Chicago seven. Um,

1140
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: oh my god, I will not rest until Aaron Side

1141
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: is mounted on my wall. I swear to god. Yeah,

1142
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 1: what a mass beating the beast quote. The other other

1143
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: notes I have is that, um, yeah, capitalism is the

1144
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: only way bees have to be indentured servants or else

1145
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: is the point the movie is making. So that's cool,

1146
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: do I wrote ray Leota and this movie sucks as well.

1147
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 1: The sting cameo was really bad, but I was like,

1148
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: b Larry King was really bad. But I thought that

1149
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 1: that would have been a better naming convention for everyone.

1150
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: It should have been. Yeah, just just see Matthew Broderick.

1151
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: It's like, Matthew Roderick, I'm not going to remember whether

1152
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 1: Cathy Bates Bekathy Bates. I feel like that even better

1153
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: marketing whatever was. Yeah. Another note I have is, how

1154
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: is there still ten minutes left of this movie? Um,

1155
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 1: it's only it's like exactly ninety minutes long, but it

1156
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: feels way longer. Yeah. So the one last actual scientific

1157
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: point I want to make about this movie is they

1158
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: did exactly one cool thing in terms of be biology.

1159
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: One cool thing. Remember at the end, Oh god, I

1160
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,520
Speaker 1: forgot this part. They have to save a plane from crash.

1161
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: It's horrible to look at. Honestly, forgot the plane from crashing.

1162
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:42,720
Speaker 1: There's so much in this movie that they are on

1163
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: a plane with the flowers from Pasadena that they're trying

1164
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: to get back to the bees, which is inexplicable because

1165
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: presumably there are other bees in the world than like

1166
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 1: at this park where Barry b bin Selims. But whatever.

1167
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: They have to fly the flowers from Pasadena because of

1168
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl back to New York? Is that where

1169
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: they live? Whatever? Every Flora's dream love was like, Oh

1170
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl, Every Flora's dream I'm like that and

1171
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: so they have to fly these flowers. But then they

1172
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: flowers are dying, I guess, and so they want the

1173
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: pilots to go faster, so they go into the cabin.

1174
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: The pilots freak out because it's a bee, and then

1175
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: they accidentally knocked themselves unconscious. And then day drunk renee

1176
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: Zelwigger has to fly the plane, but she doesn't know

1177
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: how to fly the plane. Uh, And so be Barry

1178
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: b Benson has to fly the plane with her or

1179
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: something because he's like bees. Note bees and planes are

1180
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: the same, which, as I said at the beginning of

1181
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: the podcast, is actually not true. The physics of plane

1182
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: flight is extremely different from the physics of bee flight.

1183
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: But here now he gets don't do little arms circles float.

1184
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: Here's the precisely one cool thing they did in the movie.

1185
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: There's like one person who researched bees, and that's when

1186
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 1: the beehive, berries bee hive like all comes together and

1187
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: they're on the runway. Uh, and like be Barry b

1188
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: Binson is like, I can't see. It's foggy. Even though

1189
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: I guess they have lights, I don't know. I guess

1190
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: the lights got unplugged. This movie is a mess. It's

1191
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: a hot mess. So but the bees start oscillating in

1192
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: this pattern, like they have like a flower pattern that

1193
01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: they're like, and by like moving their abdomens they make

1194
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: this oscillating pattern. That is true. Bees do this in

1195
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: the wild and it's amazingly cool. So bees can flash

1196
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 1: their abdomens in a wave pattern to warn off predators

1197
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: and it will look like these black ripples or or rings. Uh.

1198
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 1: And they achieve that by basically doing the wave with

1199
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: their abdomens. It's really funny. It's really cute, but it is.

1200
01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: It looks incredible from a distance. Oh yeah, this is amazing.

1201
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: It looks like magic. The guy says, that's so cool.

1202
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,839
Speaker 1: It's a video of a guy watching all of the

1203
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: this massive bee colonies the wave. Yeah yeah, and it

1204
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: looks like it just looks like sort of undulating uh,

1205
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: ripples throughout the bees, like a hypnotic spirals of bees.

1206
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: It's incredible. How do they know to do that in

1207
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 1: like unison like that? The pheromones? Yeah, yeah, I would

1208
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: assume it's and it's probably by the rustling of their

1209
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: neighbors probably sets them off as well, Like there's a

1210
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,800
Speaker 1: pheromone signal that you know, gets them to go in

1211
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: that formation, and then probably the instinct of like, you know,

1212
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 1: basically one of them gets the signal and then they

1213
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 1: do the they do the um basically the wave, and

1214
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: then then it's like how you know, to do the

1215
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: wave at a at a baseball stadium where the person

1216
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: next to you is doing and so you're like, oh,

1217
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: it's my turn now. So yeah, wow, I feel like

1218
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: I feel like I was on mushrooms. Looking at that,

1219
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 1: You're just like, there's actually cool fact. There is actually

1220
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: psychotropic bee honey um that there uh these bees that

1221
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: live I think in Nepal, and it's extremely hard and

1222
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: dangerous to go collect this honey. It's this red it's

1223
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 1: called red honey. It's like this color. It's this dark

1224
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 1: reddish amber color these bees feed on I don't know

1225
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: if it's psychotropic fungus or it's it's something that has

1226
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: psychotropic properties, and then they is excreted in their honey

1227
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 1: as well. And so there are these people who go

1228
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: to great, great risks and links to collect this honey

1229
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 1: and it's it's really incredible, Like they have to climb

1230
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 1: up a cliff face because it's the only place that

1231
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: they can get to these bees. But yeah, that's that's

1232
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: that's been a cool movie, right, yes, but yeah, it's

1233
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: just it was so there's something so heartbreaking about seeing

1234
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,920
Speaker 1: that scene because it was like there was one person

1235
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: who did some research and like, this would be a

1236
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 1: cool thing to have in the movie, the bees doing

1237
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: this this oscillating ripple effect, because like we know bees

1238
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 1: in the wild do that, and that was actually a

1239
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: cool thing, right, Like that was kind of a cool moment,

1240
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 1: and then they just didn't do anything else like that,

1241
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: and the rest of the movie like it doesn't. And

1242
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: I guess my point isn't that movies about animals have

1243
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 1: to be scientifically accurate, like they don't, Like it's it's fine, like, uh,

1244
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, there's lots of lots of fun movies that

1245
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 1: are not just absolutely a hundred persons scientifically accurate, that

1246
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: have a cool narrative. But I think by looking at

1247
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: natural biology, you'll get a lot of inspiration for really

1248
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: cool plots and really cool narratives and they don't have

1249
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 1: to be a accurate. But nature is so cool. There's

1250
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 1: so many stories that you can glean from that that

1251
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 1: I don't know why you wouldn't at least attempt to

1252
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 1: look into the lives of bees, because they're so fascinating.

1253
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 1: There's such so many things, like you guys have been

1254
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 1: doing this whole podcast, like you know, be the Crown,

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Speaker 1: be gave thrones. There's so many stories you could tell

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Speaker 1: about bees using just like some inspiration from their actual

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Speaker 1: actual lives. Mhm. These deserved these deserved better hashtag bees

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Speaker 1: deserved better. And that's why I wanted to bring up

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Speaker 1: two thousand and sevens B movie in the year the

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Speaker 1: Year of Our of our ban. It was important work

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Speaker 1: that we did here today. I learned, I learned a lot,

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Speaker 1: I grew, I got horny, and then I could and

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Speaker 1: then I stopped. Yeah, I think that's sort of the

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Speaker 1: life of a drone, right, that's true. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: guess in a way, we're all churning our honey. I've

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Speaker 1: got royal jelly cooking up in my parts right now.

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Speaker 1: Even the concept of royal jelly is better than every

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Speaker 1: word and abandoned premise in its way. How did they

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Speaker 1: not like what about a bee like stealing royal jelly,

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Speaker 1: like trying to build an army of queen bees to

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Speaker 1: like take over the world. So good Okay, well you've

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Speaker 1: given Caitlin and I some important homework, which is right,

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Speaker 1: a better version of b movie? Please please do and

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Speaker 1: have have have us actually see the Queen for she's

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Speaker 1: going to be the protagonist. Absolutely, who would you cast

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Speaker 1: as the Bee queen? Oh? Kathy Bates could have gotten

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Speaker 1: could be promoted from her role in the movie to

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Speaker 1: be a good queen. I mean, I'm I'm god. Who

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Speaker 1: would be a good like a queen Bee that you

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Speaker 1: would want to really take down to like Harry Bates

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Speaker 1: would work well because I feel like and play you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean if she was really channeling her what's that

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01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,560
Speaker 1: movie where she misery? Yeah, she was really misery ing

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Speaker 1: out you could you could really root for her to

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Speaker 1: be taken down. I want to, like any anti monarchy

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Speaker 1: a movie that's right, like distributing the Royal jelly to

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Speaker 1: everyone everyone you're a queen, and you're a queen, everybody

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Speaker 1: gets to be a queen. And then it's sponsored by

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Speaker 1: girl Boss. Is a real girl Boss movie? Just showing

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Speaker 1: the bees in these stilettos, like stomping on the male bees.

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Speaker 1: I love it. We'll work on it, We'll workshop it,

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Speaker 1: We'll have it. Ready soon. I don't know, would like

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Speaker 1: summer too ambitious? No no, no, the first drafted by Sunday. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm more ambitious than you, Jamie. I think I might

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Speaker 1: go with Caitlin here Sunday, Sunday on your desk by

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Speaker 1: side day. All right, all right, thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: You're like Jess. Anyways, I have no more, no more.

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Speaker 1: I guess I've done it. I guess we've destroyed B Movie.

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Speaker 1: We've plain it. It's we can all rest easy. Justice

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Speaker 1: has been measured out. Thank you guys so much for

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Speaker 1: joining me today on this journey. Of course, you know,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. I really enjoyed pulling out the

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Speaker 1: stinger of B Movie and ripping all its guts along

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Speaker 1: with it, so along with most of it. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: rest and that's done you Katie, I know, I know, Rip,

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Speaker 1: rip and peace. Poor a little bee who stung me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I was just like, but why but why? Well,

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Speaker 1: so you guys got anything to plug? I bet you do,

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Speaker 1: I bet you do. You can listen to the Bechtel

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Speaker 1: Cast Caitlyn and in my podcast every Thursday on iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Uh and then I have a podcast coming out right

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Speaker 1: now called Lolita podcast doesn'ttend part look at the uh

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Speaker 1: really bad cultural legacy of Lolita. Yeah, I really want

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Speaker 1: to listen to that. I'm like, it's like one of

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Speaker 1: those things where when I read Lolita back in college,

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Speaker 1: I just it was so like I had such a

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Speaker 1: complicated relationship to it where it's like I love uh Novoko,

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Speaker 1: but and like he was also famous for being an entomologist,

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Speaker 1: so it's like all these things and and like he

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Speaker 1: had a whole collectify scientist. Yeah, he had like a

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Speaker 1: collection of butterfly genitals, which take that as you may,

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Speaker 1: um and like the but I have to I have

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Speaker 1: to listen to this podcast because I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: gonna it's I was, it's like such a thing where

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, this book, it's famous for

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Speaker 1: being good, and then I got like halfway through it

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Speaker 1: was so I couldn't finish it. It was Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of people. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is gonna give me some closure

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Speaker 1: on that. So I'm definitely gonna listen, And I encourage

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Speaker 1: your everyone else too as well. Uh, Kaitlyn, you got

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Speaker 1: anything a plug? Oh? I do a weekly um Instagram

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Speaker 1: Live show called movie Talk with Caitlin Um, but now

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Speaker 1: I'm changing it to be movie oh please do. But

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Speaker 1: I feel like this topic has to like make the

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Speaker 1: podcast rounds because we did it on on Frame Rate

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Speaker 1: with Abe Epperson and Michael Swain also checked that episode

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Speaker 1: out if you liked this one is really fun to

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Speaker 1: do that. We also talk about a bug's life and ants.

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Speaker 1: The famous movie about ants from like the nineties, the

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Speaker 1: Woody Allen Aunt. Yeah yeah, yeah that one. Uh and

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Speaker 1: then and so yeah, I feel like to take this

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Speaker 1: gift of the B movie analysis and then spread it

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Speaker 1: around spread the love. Yeah, so I'll do. I'll be

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Speaker 1: doing that, um every week moving for forward for the

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Speaker 1: rest of my life. Analysis on B movie But that's

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01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: um my Instagram live show Movie Talk with Caitlin. So

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Speaker 1: you just follow me on Instagram at Caitlyn Toronte and

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Speaker 1: check that out every Thursday. Fantastic and you can find

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Speaker 1: the show on Instagram at Creature Feature Pod on Twitter

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Speaker 1: the E T. That is very different And thank you

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Speaker 1: guys so much for listening. If you're enjoying the show,

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