WEBVTT - Built Different with Torrey Devitto 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:05.400 Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.960 Well, ladies, what do you got from me today? We're 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:14.360 going to talk about monsters or under the bed. 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:19.000 If they're real or not real? No, no, monsters. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:22.840 I do actually have something regarding school, okay, and it 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.640 was a great debate this morning in the house. We 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:27.600 could talk about that, or we could talk about anything 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:29.600 else that is I feel like a therapist right now. 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:30.960 Is there anything that you'd like to bring to the 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.199 table today to talk about, because I've got my own agenda, 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:33.879 But if you'd like. 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:34.760 To talk about. 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:37.279 You'd like to talk about. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.360 What you'd like to talk about. What's the energy you're 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:42.560 bringing into the room today. I have something in mind. 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:46.000 But and then usually it's like Walt the hours up, 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.600 she was like, today was a good session. So like 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.040 we'll just bookmark the last of things I've wanted to 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:58.120 bring to you. So okay, so this you will have 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:03.880 to give maybe your past opinion, KB okay, because your 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:07.960 kids don't ride the school bus, okay, Okay, okay, So 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.560 obviously Julian and Jason riding the school bus to school, 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.240 and there are things happening on the school bus. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:23.400 I learned so use your path. 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:26.920 Yeah, okay, I remember things on the bus as well 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.120 that weren't great for anybody. 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:32.000 I don't. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:32.280 I don't. 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.399 I do not like the bush. Did you like the bus? 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:37.839 I was kind of on and off on the bus. 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.640 Sometimes I rode it. Sometimes I did it really Yeah, 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:46.280 like sometimes parents took me sometimes. So I honestly don't 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:50.240 have a ton of like memories of stuff stuff happening 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:51.880 on the bus. I can remember getting on, I can 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:53.880 remember getting off, but I don't have anything that was 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.040 like triggering or I. 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:57.800 Remember the school kids on the bus. I remember not 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.440 being one of them. Yeah, for sure, it was kind 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:01.920 of mine. Were y'all separate? 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:02.200 Well? 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.640 And it's also what are we remembering and what grades? 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.000 Because that's like a whole another ball game, because like 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.520 when they're in elementary, I remember elementary, middle there. I 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.400 remember in high school, I drove with my brother in 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:13.920 the backseat. 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:15.359 I wasn't allowed to talk to him. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.840 Is there anything you want to basically, yeah, basically got 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.560 dropped off at the end of the parking lot so 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:23.359 he could go to school. 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.480 Yeah, totally. Yeah, you got to go too. 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:26.799 I get mean, I still might get it, but you know, 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.120 Tuck and roll cat yep, Okay, that's fine. That was ane, 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:34.799 but probably why probably started there or. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.680 That even wrote the book Rode where do I did 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.400 ride the bus? And I only remember this because Andrew Bock. 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.440 I wouldn't kiss Andrew back at the stops name and 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:49.760 I would it shot and he dumped me because he 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.400 called me prude at the bus stop. But I didn't 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.960 want to get in trouble for kissing a boy and 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.919 so I didn't. And he was my neighbor, so I 0:02:58.000 --> 0:02:59.320 knew it would get back to my mom. So I 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.800 didn't kiss him. I got dumped. And I do remember 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.519 that middle school bus journey. No, that was a good 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:11.560 memory elementary. 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.280 Well, I didn't want to say it. Andrew Boch really 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.360 came in at the wrong time. They were just coming 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.160 a glossom for that one. I felt like I was 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:18.600 just trying to be a really good friend. So okay, 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.440 I can I know how to roast myself? 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:26.239 Yeah, I feel good myself. Okay, So sorry, go continue. 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:28.320 You don't really well, I was going to say with 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.720 elementary school though, like did your school separate them out 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:32.480 like kind of per grade? 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:34.239 No, what do you mean? 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:38.600 I mean most elementary buses you're going to have your 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:40.640 kindergarteners up front, and it's kind of go like to, 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:42.480 oh until you're a fourth or fifth grade, are you 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.160 in the back, to kind of separate them out a 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:44.560 little bit. 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.360 That's part of our shattering Okay. 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.880 Oh, has there been some intermingling seating? So there's also 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:50.960 as sign seats on our bus. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.240 On this bus we've had both okay, and I don't 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:54.400 really read the bus, but when they have. 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.960 Which it was the first day of school, the whole 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:00.440 thing leading up, Jase was so nervous to take it 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.520 on the bus, never been on a bus before. Obviously 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:04.960 they didn't he didn't do the practice thing at McKay's, 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:05.960 and so. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:10.400 I was pret you have a butterfly on your foot 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:12.520 because I was eighteen. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.320 Julio were dripping for Okay, Julie Cooper, Julie Cooper and 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.359 I have the same one, the same she's in Michigan 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.200 somewhere right now with our twin. 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.839 Soul boater and and your back in Michigan. She's she's 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:34.240 still on her food stage. We're never going back. Okay, Okay, Wow, 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.159 sorry guys is listening right now? Okay, the most natural 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:42.520 conversation though, like and me over here, like literally, if 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:51.680 anyone else, if anyone wonder, Wow, that just summed up relationships. 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:57.000 If anyone ever wonders what it's like to be on 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:58.960 the road or in a room with us, this is 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.720 it one. Hey guys, are we going to get back 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.480 to the name? There? I go, what were we talking about? 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:04.520 It? 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:10.240 Okay? So okay, So leading up to the first time 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.440 riding the bus, uh. 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:17.000 Okay, Jace is really scared, and I'm like, it's fine, 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:18.880 you're gonna sit next to Jolie. You're gonna sit next 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.960 to Jolie. Well, I didn't know they were a signed. 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:22.440 They'd never been a signed. This is the first year 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.520 that they're doing actually a sign seating on the bus. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:29.840 So there is like mayhem on the bus. The kids 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.800 are all standing up, and I'm trying to find the 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.640 window because I'm ready to like do the wave by 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:34.960 and like cry and you know what. 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:35.880 I mean, like the whole thing. 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:43.040 So I scene and so everyone's standing up, and then 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.240 I see Jase come around and his eyes are starting 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.600 to well up because he can't sit next to Jolie, 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.800 and I'm like, so then I get upset, right, and 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.719 I'm like you can sit next to Jolie. He's like, no, Mommy, 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:53.640 they're a signed because she's in third so she's like 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:58.360 farther back. Uh, so he ends up staying next to this. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.760 You know, they figure it out. Pam has to get 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.360 on the bus because she's like, what's going on? You know, 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.480 the moms are all like up in a roar, So 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:08.440 it PAMs. Pam gets on the bus, and so Jace 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.360 is sitting next to some girl or whatever I think 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:16.679 in a different neighborhood. And anyways, they go to school. Well, Jace, 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.599 Jason Jolie kind of both came to me and they're like, Mommy, 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.320 we don't like riding the bus anymore. The kids are 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:28.599 they're they're pushing Jace, which just breaks my little heart 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:30.760 because I'm like, which kids, you know what I mean. 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:34.840 But then this morning I was going to drop them 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:36.880 off at school, and I had not talked to Alan 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:38.440 about it yet, but I was like, Hey, I think 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.400 I'm going to start driving the kids to school and 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.120 then on the way back the bus rides like a 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:43.720 forty minute bus or something. I think I'm going to 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.280 start picking them up from school because that sometimes he'll 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.160 take the bus, maybe to school and then I'll pick 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.359 them up because that bus ride is so long. Jason's 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.760 complaining his stomach's hurting him when he gets home from school, 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:56.480 just because like the long ride. And he's like the 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.279 kids are being loud. He's like, there's they're like saying things, 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:02.400 calling them a month stir like just like being and 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.800 then the fourth and fifth they're coming up like and 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:06.400 trying to like sit next to them. Well, the bus 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.760 driver's not of the most assertive, like you know, bless him, 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:11.680 like it's a hard job, right, but he's also not 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.240 vocal with like kids sit down, like they're staying up. 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.320 It's like it's a madness on that bus, like when 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:20.520 they're pulling up. So I don't know what to do. 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.040 And Alan he goes, well, babies, like they're kids, they 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:26.600 need to just like learn and and my stance is 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.520 I'm like, well, I'm going to take them and not 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:30.840 have them ride the bus if they don't want to 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:31.280 ride the bus. 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.520 What are your all's take on that? I don't even 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.480 let me go to school? But I think we know 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:44.080 my answer. I mean, yeah, I say pick up, drop 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:44.800 off if you can't. 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:48.040 Also you live close to the school, Yes, and I 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.080 remember part of the reason I didn't love the bus 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:51.720 is because we lived so close to the school, but 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:53.600 we were last to be dropped off, so it was 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.920 like forty minutes to an hour after And then like, 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.000 am I literally seeing like all parts of Washington County? 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.560 But I could get dropped off my own home, right, 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:07.280 Andrew tired. Yeah, Alan's just more like tough love on it. 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:08.200 And I'm. 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.600 I'm like, can we meet in the middle somewhere on it? 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.280 But I'm also curious to hear your take. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.560 I mean, I see boets, I think so. We live 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.160 literally across the street from the school. 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:19.960 My kids can walk. 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.400 But for a little while, Ramsey was wanting to ride 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.480 the bus because her other little friend in the neighborhood 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:25.200 was riding the bus. 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:25.920 So I let her. 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.520 Then they got assigned seats, she couldn't sit with her. 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.320 Don't like the bus anymore, don't want And they started 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:32.520 combining buses. 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:33.560 Do they do that for y'all? 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.080 So they have even more people at least for us, 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.240 it's like our best route. Like now, let's say we 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:39.959 used to have ten buses within our school. It's not 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:41.840 but now we have five, Like they cut it down 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.400 so it's a longer route and more people and all that. 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.719 So that happened. Assigned seats happened. She asked not to 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.040 and I was like, absolutely, don't have to. 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:52.480 But she can walk. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.760 So again, I don't disagree with Alan. I do think 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.959 that he is in school and it's not going to 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.480 happen just on the bus. Sure, so I do think 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:04.280 that he is going to have to get used to 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:08.200 some of those things. But at the same time, if 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.920 you can just take him to school, why put him 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:14.080 through that part of it. I don't think that there's 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:15.679 really and I do think that the bus is a 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:19.040 place that it can get really rowdy, rowdy, out of 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.679 control fast. Depending on your bus driver. They can be 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.160 either really mean or really nice. Like it can get 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:26.959 very tricky. I know a lot of people don't have 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.240 the option to not ride the bus, so I think 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.280 that you, you know, could work through that, but if 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:32.200 you have the option, I would. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:32.839 Yeah. 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:34.360 I literally wrote it life. 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:39.520 Yeah, I mean it's different just because of Jason's personality 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.360 and that he's in kindergarten. 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:42.360 I love them. 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.439 I love them building confidence and a love for school. 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:50.280 So whatever that takes at the beginning and then introduce 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.640 reality as it goes on. But like, no, I agree, yeah, 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:55.719 like the amount of our bodies like six years ago. 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:56.840 So I have a hard time being. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.200 Like that, right, get off the bus right from I mean, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.640 I can definitely be a tough love person, and I can, 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.440 I can definitely understand that, but when it comes to kids, 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.839 it depends. It truly depends. I mean I can be 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:11.040 Mama bear and like we're not doing this, you know, 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:12.720 and be very sensitive to my kids. 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:13.840 So that just depends. 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:18.040 And I don't disagree with Alan that Jace is going 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:21.439 to have to slowly start learning these new things and 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.800 getting used to the older kids and hearing things that 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.240 he's not. I mean, the getting called a monster and 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.160 stuff like that. I would want to kill the kid too, 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.440 like trust me, right, trust me, But it only gets worse, 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.280 so they do. You can't protect them from all of it, 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.120 I know, as much as I would love to protect 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:37.079 my kids from all of it. 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:39.559 Yeah, yeah, and that's kind of what Alan is, like 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:41.240 he's going to hear I'm like, well no, because he's 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.880 in a kindergarten classroom, Like I'm not objecting him to 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.719 be how though a monster? Well, I mean any other 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.719 thing like if he's not in, he'll be more here. 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.480 It's more like right right, I mean, I think those 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.440 age kids boys, they're going to call him that anyway. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.360 That's going to happen at that age now hearing age 0:10:58.440 --> 0:10:59.640 appropriate things. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:00.880 There are still. 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.600 Chances for that in elementary school, maybe not in kindergarten, 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.760 but as they get a little bit older, you are 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.920 still going to be kind of around. But again, protect 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.360 what you can protect, you know. And that's kind of 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.319 my thing, Like, yes, I think we have to talk 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.040 to them about it. We have to talk with them 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:16.920 how to handle the situations and all that, but that 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.520 doesn't mean we just put them in those situations every 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:20.240 chance we get. 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:21.880 I agree, it's my opinion. 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.160 Also, I love efficiency, and I know picking up is 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.400 non efficient sometimes because those school lines get crazy. Yeah, 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.200 but at the same time, it's the least I can 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.199 do to reiterate my schedule for my kids, you know 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.480 what I mean, and make sure that they're and feels 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:37.000 good well. 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.360 And you are blessed to be able to be here, 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.120 to be able to do that. And that's one thing 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.280 that I've always said too to my kids, like I 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.839 am here working. Not everyone has that chance. If you 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.520 have a child, a friend that needs to be in 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.480 a home because they don't have and I can't tell 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.199 you how much that will start coming up. You know 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:56.120 a lot of parents aren't home in the afternoons in 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.679 the evenings, and as they get older, they don't even 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:00.480 have rides half the time, you know what I mean. 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.920 So it's like it all like we're blessed to be 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:04.120 able to be in a position to be able to 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:04.880 do that if we need to. 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:10.040 Speaking of Julie was talking about food because just another 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.679 conversation with a dinner or whatever, and you know, I'm like, 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:14.760 Jason should be lucky that people, you know, you even 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.439 have food. And we come as conversations and Julie is like, 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.439 can we go build houses for people? And I'm like, 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:21.640 when you get to like a couple more years, I'm like, yes, 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.240 we'll all we'll all take our kids and go somewhere. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:31.160 Which great. But anyways, have you guys do Tory Debido 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:32.000 is living in Michigan. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:33.559 I saw that. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:35.719 I have a lot of questions the same. Let's put 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:49.679 it on. Hi. How are you? 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:51.199 I'm good, how are you? 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:55.199 Congrats on the bump, Thank you, thank you, because you're 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:59.880 doing what November. Yes, November okay, Oh my goodness. So 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.480 do we have an actual November date, like something is 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.440 top of November end, because I've got a November thirteenth 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:07.240 and twenty nine. 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.640 Oh my god. Okay, So November twenty November twenty fourth 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:11.520 is her due date? 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:15.400 Oh my gosh, on oh, that would be Thanksgiving sometimes 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:16.360 sometimes yes. 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:18.599 And then I didn't even think of this myself, but 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.640 somebody said, like, it doesn't matter if she's even born 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.360 on Thanksgiving this year. She's born within that week. Within 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.200 seven years, at some point, she's going to be born 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:26.800 on Thanksgiving. 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.880 And I was like, oh right, duhh, okay, why Michigan 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:32.199 because we're from Michigan. 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.079 Oh you are, Oh my god. Well, I have a 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.840 love affair with Michigan. I feel like I'm very spiritually 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:42.120 connected to Michigan. I love everything about Michigan, all the 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:43.880 different places we can go to. But my mom is 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.599 originally from Michigan. Oh so I grew up coming to 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.440 see my cousins and my grandma and everybody every summer. 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.840 And then when I was doing Chicago med in Chicago, 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:57.240 my mom had moved when I was nineteen to Saga 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:58.800 Tak Michigan. I don't know if you know it. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:00.640 Yeah, And it's a. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.440 Two hour drive from Chicago, so I would go back 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.040 and forth and just stay there all the time. And 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.960 I just like love being near Lake Michigan. So then 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:12.400 I bought a farm near my mom. And then I'm 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.240 in my fiancee and he's from Michigan, and we like 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.160 travel around like the Tusky. I haven't even been up 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.400 to the Uni yet, and I'm like, I just it's 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:26.040 so beautiful and there's so many little artsy, cute towns 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:27.640 that I just fall in love with every time I go. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.040 I'm like, I'm never leaving. 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:30.960 We have a place up in Gaylord. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:33.120 Okay, I haven't been there yet. 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:37.200 Is that near where is It's close to Traversity Okay. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.880 Okay, I just went to travel the first time. It's 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:40.720 always beautiful. 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:41.360 I love it. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:43.920 But let me ask you. Have you've done a winter yet? 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:44.800 Yes? 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.480 She did Chicago, which is like brutal. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.200 Yes, I've done two winters. You know. I love snow. 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:52.600 Okay, this is perfect. 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:57.120 It's perfect. The winters help you appreciate the summer more. 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.040 I think I did. 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.080 Yeah, you are the perfect little Michigan heart, you know. 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:03.920 What I mean, like this is back in in like 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.920 five it's really charming for a minute, and I'm just kidding, 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:09.880 actually super love it. We were just saying, it's like 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:11.640 the most stunning time of year up there right now, 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.600 Like this is the season. There's nothing like Michigan summers 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.560 or falls. I even brainstormed, like us getting a place 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.520 next summer and like letting my because my husband travel 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:23.080 so much during the summer. I thought, what if we 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.840 just like camp out up there, you know, and he 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:27.600 could come in and out because it's just there's newly 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.320 things that I like it. We could like get next door. 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:32.960 Because Alan always like, would you move back to Michigan. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:34.880 I'm like, oh, that's such a challenging question because I 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:38.520 do love Michigan so much, got friends there, family obviously, 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.520 But like I just I can't do the winter that long. 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.080 See, for me, it's the spring. The spring starts to 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.600 kill me because that's when you feel like, oh it's 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.000 start being like a little bit warmer and flowers and stuff, 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.160 and the spring can be just as brutal as the winter, 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.400 and that's when you're like, Okay, we're done with this, 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.640 it's over. Why is this still happening. That's when I 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.040 start to go down a little bit. 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.200 But when you're putting blankets on your tulips, you're like, 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.600 here we go again. It's gonna goat Yeah. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:09.440 So question for you. 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:12.800 You were obviously on One Tree Hill and then Pretty 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.080 Little Lie. You've been on a bunch of shows, but 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.760 what was the biggest difference between One Tree Hill and 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.000 Pretty Little Liar set that you remember? 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:27.000 Well? One Tree Hill, I remember being very nervous going 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.720 into that show because it was the first show that 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.240 I felt like I was doing that. Like a ton 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:37.680 of people were watching, So I remember being very excited 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.120 and very nervous. And when I came in, I came 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:43.840 in in season five, so people already had their dynamics. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:49.560 There was a lot going on already, and I felt 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.200 like it had a bit of a darker energy, Like 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.920 I didn't really love being there. I loved doing the job, 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.800 and I got to work mostly with Joy and she 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.240 was so lovely and me and michaeleb McManus came in 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.440 at the same time and built like a really good friendship. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.600 But other than that, I kind of like kept to 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:11.560 myself and played my brain games on the Nintendo DS 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.000 in my room by myself all the time. It was 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:18.399 like a little depressing, but yeah, that job kind of 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.959 made me really question, like, Okay, am I really equip 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.600 to do this, because it's like a very it was. 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.760 It was not the brightest set, and I was like, 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.880 I'm feeling very depressed. Pretty little liars. On the other hand, 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:33.600 like I felt like I was there from the pilot 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.639 and everybody got along really well. And I loved that 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:39.960 job because I felt like I would just pop in 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.280 and pop out and like do my thing and then 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:48.320 go So yeah, I was just totally different, totally different. 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.359 I mean I could definitely empathize with you on that 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:53.359 because I can say that clicks were formed. I mean 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.880 it was even you know, more so even a couple 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.159 of years after that too, so and I get that, 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:02.199 like it would definitely is you know, I totally hear 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.840 what you're saying, and that's sad that it made you 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.240 question kind of the route you It's like, if this 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:10.680 is even what you want to do, that's that's that's 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:12.080 pretty well. 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.600 There were so many i mean, for lack of a 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.480 better word, egos on that set, and I remember walking 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.280