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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, ladies, what do you got from me today? We're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about monsters or under the bed.

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Speaker 3: If they're real or not real? No, no, monsters.

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Speaker 2: I do actually have something regarding school, okay, and it

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Speaker 2: was a great debate this morning in the house. We

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Speaker 2: could talk about that, or we could talk about anything

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Speaker 2: else that is I feel like a therapist right now.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything that you'd like to bring to the

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Speaker 2: table today to talk about, because I've got my own agenda,

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Speaker 2: But if you'd like.

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Speaker 4: To talk about.

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Speaker 3: You'd like to talk about.

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Speaker 2: What you'd like to talk about. What's the energy you're

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Speaker 2: bringing into the room today. I have something in mind.

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Speaker 2: But and then usually it's like Walt the hours up,

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Speaker 2: she was like, today was a good session. So like

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Speaker 2: we'll just bookmark the last of things I've wanted to

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Speaker 2: bring to you. So okay, so this you will have

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Speaker 2: to give maybe your past opinion, KB okay, because your

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Speaker 2: kids don't ride the school bus, okay, Okay, okay, So

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Speaker 2: obviously Julian and Jason riding the school bus to school,

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Speaker 2: and there are things happening on the school bus.

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Speaker 3: I learned so use your path.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I remember things on the bus as well

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Speaker 2: that weren't great for anybody.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I do not like the bush. Did you like the bus?

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Speaker 4: I was kind of on and off on the bus.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I rode it. Sometimes I did it really Yeah,

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Speaker 4: like sometimes parents took me sometimes. So I honestly don't

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Speaker 4: have a ton of like memories of stuff stuff happening

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Speaker 4: on the bus. I can remember getting on, I can

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Speaker 4: remember getting off, but I don't have anything that was

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Speaker 4: like triggering or I.

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Speaker 2: Remember the school kids on the bus. I remember not

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Speaker 2: being one of them. Yeah, for sure, it was kind

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Speaker 2: of mine. Were y'all separate?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: And it's also what are we remembering and what grades?

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Speaker 4: Because that's like a whole another ball game, because like

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Speaker 4: when they're in elementary, I remember elementary, middle there. I

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Speaker 4: remember in high school, I drove with my brother in

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Speaker 4: the backseat.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't allowed to talk to him.

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Speaker 4: Is there anything you want to basically, yeah, basically got

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Speaker 4: dropped off at the end of the parking lot so

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Speaker 4: he could go to school.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. Yeah, you got to go too.

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Speaker 4: I get mean, I still might get it, but you know,

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Speaker 4: Tuck and roll cat yep, Okay, that's fine. That was ane,

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Speaker 4: but probably why probably started there or.

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Speaker 2: That even wrote the book Rode where do I did

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Speaker 2: ride the bus? And I only remember this because Andrew Bock.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't kiss Andrew back at the stops name and

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Speaker 2: I would it shot and he dumped me because he

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Speaker 2: called me prude at the bus stop. But I didn't

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Speaker 2: want to get in trouble for kissing a boy and

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Speaker 2: knew it would get back to my mom. So I

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Speaker 2: didn't kiss him. I got dumped. And I do remember

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Speaker 2: that middle school bus journey. No, that was a good

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Speaker 2: memory elementary.

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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't want to say it. Andrew Boch really

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Speaker 3: came in at the wrong time. They were just coming

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Speaker 3: a glossom for that one. I felt like I was

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Speaker 3: just trying to be a really good friend. So okay,

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Speaker 3: I can I know how to roast myself?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel good myself. Okay, So sorry, go continue.

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Speaker 4: You don't really well, I was going to say with

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Speaker 4: elementary school though, like did your school separate them out

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Speaker 4: like kind of per grade?

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Speaker 3: No, what do you mean?

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Speaker 4: I mean most elementary buses you're going to have your

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Speaker 4: kindergarteners up front, and it's kind of go like to,

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Speaker 4: oh until you're a fourth or fifth grade, are you

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Speaker 3: That's part of our shattering Okay.

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Speaker 2: Oh, has there been some intermingling seating? So there's also

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Speaker 2: as sign seats on our bus.

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Speaker 4: On this bus we've had both okay, and I don't

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Speaker 4: really read the bus, but when they have.

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Speaker 2: Which it was the first day of school, the whole

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Speaker 2: thing leading up, Jase was so nervous to take it

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Speaker 2: they didn't he didn't do the practice thing at McKay's,

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Speaker 3: I was pret you have a butterfly on your foot

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Speaker 3: because I was eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Julio were dripping for Okay, Julie Cooper, Julie Cooper and

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Speaker 2: I have the same one, the same she's in Michigan

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Speaker 2: somewhere right now with our twin.

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Speaker 3: Soul boater and and your back in Michigan. She's she's

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Speaker 3: still on her food stage. We're never going back. Okay, Okay, Wow,

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Speaker 3: sorry guys is listening right now? Okay, the most natural

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Speaker 3: conversation though, like and me over here, like literally, if

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Speaker 3: anyone else, if anyone wonder, Wow, that just summed up relationships.

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Speaker 3: If anyone ever wonders what it's like to be on

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Speaker 3: the road or in a room with us, this is

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Speaker 3: it one. Hey guys, are we going to get back

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Speaker 3: to the name? There? I go, what were we talking about?

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Speaker 1: It?

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Speaker 3: Okay? So okay, So leading up to the first time

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Speaker 3: riding the bus, uh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jace is really scared, and I'm like, it's fine,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna sit next to Jolie. You're gonna sit next

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Speaker 2: to Jolie. Well, I didn't know they were a signed.

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Speaker 2: They'd never been a signed. This is the first year

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Speaker 2: that they're doing actually a sign seating on the bus.

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Speaker 2: So there is like mayhem on the bus. The kids

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Speaker 2: are all standing up, and I'm trying to find the

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Speaker 2: and like cry and you know what.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: So I scene and so everyone's standing up, and then

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Speaker 2: I see Jase come around and his eyes are starting

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Speaker 2: to well up because he can't sit next to Jolie,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, so then I get upset, right, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like you can sit next to Jolie. He's like, no, Mommy,

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Speaker 2: they're a signed because she's in third so she's like

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Speaker 2: You know, they figure it out. Pam has to get

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Speaker 2: the moms are all like up in a roar, So

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Speaker 2: it PAMs. Pam gets on the bus, and so Jace

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Speaker 2: in a different neighborhood. And anyways, they go to school. Well, Jace,

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Speaker 2: Jason Jolie kind of both came to me and they're like, Mommy,

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Speaker 2: we don't like riding the bus anymore. The kids are

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Speaker 2: they're they're pushing Jace, which just breaks my little heart

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Speaker 2: because I'm like, which kids, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But then this morning I was going to drop them

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Speaker 2: then on the way back the bus rides like a

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Speaker 2: start picking them up from school because that sometimes he'll

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Speaker 2: take the bus, maybe to school and then I'll pick

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Speaker 2: them up because that bus ride is so long. Jason's

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Speaker 2: complaining his stomach's hurting him when he gets home from school,

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Speaker 2: just because like the long ride. And he's like the

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Speaker 2: kids are being loud. He's like, there's they're like saying things,

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Speaker 2: calling them a month stir like just like being and

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Speaker 2: then the fourth and fifth they're coming up like and

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Speaker 2: trying to like sit next to them. Well, the bus

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Speaker 2: driver's not of the most assertive, like you know, bless him,

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Speaker 2: like it's a hard job, right, but he's also not

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Speaker 2: vocal with like kids sit down, like they're staying up.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's a madness on that bus, like when

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Speaker 2: they're pulling up. So I don't know what to do.

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Speaker 2: And Alan he goes, well, babies, like they're kids, they

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Speaker 2: need to just like learn and and my stance is

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I'm going to take them and not

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Speaker 2: have them ride the bus if they don't want to

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Speaker 2: ride the bus.

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Speaker 3: What are your all's take on that? I don't even

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Speaker 3: let me go to school? But I think we know

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Speaker 3: my answer. I mean, yeah, I say pick up, drop

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Speaker 3: off if you can't.

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Speaker 2: Also you live close to the school, Yes, and I

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Speaker 2: remember part of the reason I didn't love the bus

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Speaker 2: we were last to be dropped off, so it was

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Speaker 2: like forty minutes to an hour after And then like,

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Speaker 2: am I literally seeing like all parts of Washington County?

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Speaker 2: But I could get dropped off my own home, right,

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Speaker 2: Andrew tired. Yeah, Alan's just more like tough love on it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, can we meet in the middle somewhere on it?

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Speaker 2: But I'm also curious to hear your take.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I see boets, I think so. We live

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Speaker 3: My kids can walk.

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Speaker 4: But for a little while, Ramsey was wanting to ride

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Speaker 3: So I let her.

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Speaker 4: Then they got assigned seats, she couldn't sit with her.

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Speaker 4: Don't like the bus anymore, don't want And they started

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Speaker 3: Do they do that for y'all?

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Speaker 4: So they have even more people at least for us,

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Speaker 4: it's like our best route. Like now, let's say we

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Speaker 4: used to have ten buses within our school. It's not

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Speaker 4: but now we have five, Like they cut it down

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Speaker 4: so it's a longer route and more people and all that.

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Speaker 4: So that happened. Assigned seats happened. She asked not to

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Speaker 4: and I was like, absolutely, don't have to.

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Speaker 3: But she can walk.

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Speaker 4: So again, I don't disagree with Alan. I do think

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Speaker 4: that he is in school and it's not going to

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Speaker 4: happen just on the bus. Sure, so I do think

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Speaker 4: some of those things. But at the same time, if

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Speaker 4: you can just take him to school, why put him

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Speaker 4: through that part of it. I don't think that there's

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Speaker 4: really and I do think that the bus is a

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Speaker 4: place that it can get really rowdy, rowdy, out of

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Speaker 4: control fast. Depending on your bus driver. They can be

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Speaker 4: either really mean or really nice. Like it can get

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Speaker 4: very tricky. I know a lot of people don't have

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Speaker 4: the option to not ride the bus, so I think

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Speaker 4: that you, you know, could work through that, but if

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Speaker 4: you have the option, I would.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I literally wrote it life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's different just because of Jason's personality

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Speaker 2: and that he's in kindergarten.

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Speaker 3: I love them.

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Speaker 2: I love them building confidence and a love for school.

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Speaker 2: So whatever that takes at the beginning and then introduce

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Speaker 2: reality as it goes on. But like, no, I agree, yeah,

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Speaker 2: like the amount of our bodies like six years ago.

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Speaker 2: So I have a hard time being.

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Speaker 4: Like that, right, get off the bus right from I mean,

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Speaker 4: I can definitely be a tough love person, and I can,

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Speaker 2: a big public thing, but I want to know how

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Speaker 2: you landed a Michigan dude, because Michigan dudes are pretty

441
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 2: first of all, Michigan girls totally rockes. But there's some

442
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 2: sort of grit that Michigan kids all grow up with.

443
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 2: And I just had this talk with the Californian recently,

444
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of California here now in Nashville,

445
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 2: and there's like a different grit that we have in Michigan.

446
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 2: There's a different like learning and figuring out and like

447
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 2: handymansh kind of vibes sometimes that.

448
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 3: Michigan dudes have. So how do we meet, said Michigan dude. Yes, well, okay,

449
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,159
Speaker 3: so I he's a director, right, No, he's not.

450
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,160
Speaker 1: I don't know why that says that online. We laugh

451
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: about that all the time. He actually him and his

452
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 1: two brothers own their family business here in Michigan, which

453
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 1: a mechanical contracting company. I do like HVAC plumbing, like

454
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: all the things.

455
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,719
Speaker 3: And I made him right now, actually down here? Can

456
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 3: he get down here?

457
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 1: Yes? I will say. He did live in la for

458
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,640
Speaker 1: six years. He had a ton of friends that moved

459
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: out to LA too, and he did like work in

460
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: production here and there, and him and his friend wrote

461
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: actually some really great shorts. I watched one of them.

462
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 1: There was really good that he directed with him. But

463
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: then he was like, okay, I think I want to

464
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: I don't. He didn't love the instability of the industry,

465
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: and so he made the decision come back and take

466
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 1: over the family business. But I think it's so funny

467
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 1: because every time he's written about online for some reason,

468
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: he's like directory, He's like, what is happening?

469
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 2: He's director of your heart and of airflow for that matter.

470
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: So he's not not a director.

471
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 1: No, I was. So. I just had finished Chicago med

472
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 1: and I actually just went through a pretty bad breakup

473
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: in Chicago. I got totally thrown for a loop with

474
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: this person.

475
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 3: Was that the marriage to Paul No?

476
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: No, no, okay, and I got divorced like eleven years ago. Okay, no, No,

477
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: this was a relationship I was in for about two

478
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: years and anyways, he just ended up not being who

479
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: I thought he was. And I found out, you know,

480
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: he was on a dating app. Why we were to

481
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: get you know, all the things that you find out

482
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: in your life. This is awesome, Great, how did you

483
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 1: find that out?

484
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 2: Because people always ask me those questions like how did

485
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 2: you find out that so and so was doing this?

486
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: He liked my friend's profile accident, oh.

487
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: Thing where I'm like, they're they're just stupid, so stupid,

488
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: Like they're just like, be smarter if you're going to

489
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: do it, And she was like.

490
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. It's like, if you want to put yourself

491
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: through that much stress, at least be smarter about it.

492
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on. But also he gave you a gift

493
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 2: by liking your friend. You know, you got to find

494
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: out instead of seven years later and two kids.

495
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I know that's the thing, like.

496
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: You can't have a reread, so you learn and grow

497
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: for everything. But it's like, dear God, no, but I

498
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: did feel very lucky that I did find out when

499
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 1: I did, and it didn't go further because he actually

500
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: went was on the app a week after he randomly

501
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: pulled me into a ring shop to look at like rings. What, Yeah,

502
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: it's just whatever. So anyways, went through that, and I

503
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to live back in LA again.

504
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to move to New York. I thought

505
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: about Nashville, but I was like, let me just park

506
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: myself at the farm in Michigan, because I had gotten

507
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 1: it as like kind of just a vacation place. So

508
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 1: then let me just like park myself there and see,

509
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 1: you know where I want to go next. And then

510
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: I just fell in love with it and I wanted

511
00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: to stay. And my cousin knew my now fiance's brother

512
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: from college, and she kind of knew my fance and

513
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: she was like, I don't know, I knew this guy

514
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: and like he loves reading and he just like his

515
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: vibe Like I don't know, but I haven't talked to

516
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: him since college, maybe I should reach out to him

517
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: and see if he's single. And I was like, whatever,

518
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: what I have? You know what I mean, what do

519
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: I have to live? And she did and he was,

520
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: and so we I was about to go do a

521
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: movie and we talked for like a month just on

522
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: text and phone and whatever, and then I came back

523
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: and we met up on a date and then like

524
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: the rest. But I literally felt like I was like

525
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: living in a homework for me. You know, he has

526
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: like the best flannels, He has a cute lab. He

527
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: had like the restored jeep, like the old old car

528
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: that was restored. Like this is not real, this is

529
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: not real, but he's real.

530
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah there. Does he play YOUKR?

531
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 2: That?

532
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I know does he like Ranch?

533
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: Because I think that's another pre record that.

534
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: Does not Branch? And he's gonna kill me for saying this.

535
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: But I took him to Brooklyn to meet my family

536
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: and like my dad and everybody, and my dad's full Italian,

537
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: like New York guy, and we go to an Italian

538
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: restaurant and he ordered pasta and they brought him out

539
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: of spoon with his pasta and he looked at me

540
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: He's like, why did they give me a spoon.

541
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 3: Pasta? So then when are you guys getting Okay, so

542
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 3: how long have you been with him for?

543
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: We've been together for a year and a half. We

544
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: got engaged pretty quickly.

545
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: That's okay, I mean we're so yeah, so that's the

546
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: same these That was like six months and then we

547
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 2: got pregnant. So I just got married with an you know,

548
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: I've a nine month old with my now husband. But

549
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 2: we just got married a month ago. So like it's

550
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: you know, and when we're forties, you know, forties club,

551
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: it's like sometimes things full little backwards.

552
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: I was in the thirties club and did the same,

553
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 3: so I'm not really sure.

554
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: So that's when you know, you know, yeah, we're getting

555
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: married actually in like two and a half weeks.

556
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 3: Yeah in Michigan.

557
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Michigan.

558
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: Yes you are. It's beautiful. Oh my goodness.

559
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 5: That's so.

560
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 3: Is it a big wedding small wedding?

561
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: We have like our total count I think is like

562
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: one thirty five.

563
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: You add three more like.

564
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: I can almost I can almost guarantee. My husband can't come,

565
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: so it's just me. Other than we'll bring the snacks

566
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 2: and the Okay, so this is I mean, this is good.

567
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 2: Are do you are you keeping I are you keeping

568
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 2: the relationship more private or because you've had such public

569
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: relationships in the past, or kind of what's your where

570
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: are you going with the how much you share about

571
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: your relationship?

572
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I share as much as like

573
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: he's comfortable with I don't force it, Like if somebody

574
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: asked me something, I'm like very open about it, but

575
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: I don't go out of my way to share it,

576
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: which I think is like also another nice thing about

577
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: him not being in the industry as well, because that's

578
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: not really part of his thing. Like we did a

579
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: little interview about the wedding together and like for leading

580
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: after he was like, why did they why do they

581
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: want why do they want me on the call? I

582
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: don't understand? What do I do? What do I say?

583
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: So he's fine with like whatever I want to do.

584
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: It's not like he's been like I'm freaked out, don't

585
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: put me out there. But it's just kind of like

586
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: whatever organically works, we'll just kind of go with. But

587
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: when it comes to the baby, we're definitely not gonna

588
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, we're not I'm not going really like posting

589
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: her on my Instagram. I don't think maybe with like

590
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: a little rainbow sticker over her face.

591
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Yeah, I'm excited for you and a girl.

592
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,239
Speaker 3: It's a girl girl. And you went through you did

593
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 3: IVF right?

594
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: I did?

595
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: Yes?

596
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: I did?

597
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: Was this did you guys try before and then it

598
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: just wasn't or what was kind of the path to that?

599
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

600
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: We both knew what we wanted. And I was like, well,

601
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm forty, so if we want to

602
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: try this much golf right now? And you know, obviously

603
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't working, and we were doing all the ovulation

604
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: things to make sure I was ovulating at the right time.

605
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: So and I was like, and it's funny because years prior,

606
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: I remember talking to my friends and just being like,

607
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: I just have this feeling it's going to be difficult.

608
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: Like I just kind of like knew it in my guy.

609
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: So when it wasn't working for a certain amount of months,

610
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: I was like, we should just talk to somebody, And

611
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: so he found us somebody really great to talk to,

612
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: the fertility center here in Michigan, and like, and we

613
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: ran some tests and stuff and I had a very

614
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: low egg count, like super super low and they were like,

615
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: we would definitely recommend you doing IVF And luckily for us,

616
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: we only had to do one cycle. Because I know

617
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: so many people, it's like, I can't imagine it's such

618
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: a grueling process. When you hear that people did it

619
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: for like two three years, I'm like, oh my god.

620
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: But but yeah, we only had to do one cycle,

621
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: which was amazing.

622
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: Did you sorry, did you do embryos or is it

623
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: just uh do you still so? You do you still

624
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: have embryos left?

625
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: No, because we only got we got a certain amount

626
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: of embryos and then they take those embryos and they

627
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: put them through like you know, genetic testing and all

628
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: the things, and out of all the embryos they got,

629
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: we only had one and that happens to be the

630
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: one in my stomach.

631
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: O beautiful. Do you have her name already picked out?

632
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: And are you public about it? We do, we do,

633
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: and you're not public.

634
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: We're not about the name not yet. Yeah, good for you,

635
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 3: Good for you. We didn't tell anything. Yeah, no, same.

636
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So I do have a question that I'm this

637
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: is selfish, but I really want to know because I

638
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: know that your dad, you grew up very much in

639
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: the entertainment industry, and my husband is in music, and

640
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: probably Janna wonders the same thing because she's also obviously

641
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: music and entertainment. But yeah, being so your dad was

642
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 2: a drummer for Billy Joel, Is that correct?

643
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

644
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so you grew up in that world and

645
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: what is that like as an adult because I'm raising

646
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: three little ones right now and we have a data

647
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: that has gone a lot, and like, just shoot it

648
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: to me straight, Tori, Like we are we.

649
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: On Resentment Island? Do we admire this man? Like you

650
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: tell me all of the feeling.

651
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: No, I have to be So. I traveled a lot

652
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: with my parents until I was about in like second

653
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: or fourth grade something like that, when they started like okay,

654
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: well school should be a priority now. And I feel

655
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: like being around that environment and growing up in that

656
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: like really gave me like a strong head on my

657
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: shoulder because luckily I always saw these you know, my

658
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: mom's best friends is best friends with Stevie Nicks. My

659
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: dad was touring with Billy Joel time, and I saw

660
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: these people treat people very kindly from the time I

661
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: was really young, no matter how they acted outside of

662
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: when the kids were around. When the kids were around,

663
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: they were all really respectful, and I felt like that

664
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: being able to see the world and being able to

665
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: see these like megastars be very kind really like helped

666
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: mold my head from a very young age. I was

667
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: grateful for that. And then as far as you know,

668
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: Dad being gone, it was just like it was just

669
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: kind of like what it was. Although I will say

670
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: I've always up until who I'm with now, I've always

671
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: dated guys that go out of town all the time,

672
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know what that says. But no, there

673
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: would I never me and my sisters, I don't think

674
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: any resentment would ever be said that Dad was traveling.

675
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: It was kind of like, you know, we just knew

676
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: that's what Dad did for work, and like it was

677
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: like a cool thing, and it was just it was

678
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: what it was. I think what was also helpful was that,

679
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, my mom, I think being from Michigan and

680
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: growing up in life very humble beginnings, like she was

681
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: very very frugal and like always made sure that we

682
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: valued like the important things, and I think that that

683
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: was really important. So no matter what we were doing,

684
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: who were meeting, where we were going, my mom was

685
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: always like very very grounding, which I think really was important.

686
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: I could try out that's quite magical.

687
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: But I feel like it's one of those things that

688
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: it's what they know, like, yeah, your kids like that's

689
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: It's not like it's something that he's randomly picked up

690
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden he's he's been home

691
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: all these years and days and then now he's leaving,

692
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: Like this is just what they know. So it's kind

693
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: of like to your point, too, tour, it's like that's

694
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: just what you knew. Yeah, I had to run in

695
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: with a gentleman here in Nashville whose dad was is

696
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 2: a super super great star like musician, and it was

697
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: just like it left this kind of like taste in

698
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: my mouth of like, uh oh, you know, because he

699
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: didn't feel how you felt, so I was I've always

700
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: just gone like okay, but that's just the only one case, right,

701
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: and that could also be. It could also just be

702
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: that maybe that dad wasn't his intention on his home

703
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: and like there's a million other things. No life is

704
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: the same, but I love hearing that. And also because

705
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: I'm a mom from Michigan, so like we do keep

706
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: it pretty, you keep it very grounded. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

707
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: and but it is like it is a it's tricky,

708
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: you know, like he does miss a lot. I mean

709
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: up to two hundred shows a year, so that's a

710
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: lot of days and a lot of baseball games. As

711
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: they get older, it's getting more emotional. So yeah, tricky.

712
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: But I mean if my daughter's turned out like you,

713
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: I would just be like, this is the best thing ever,

714
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: Like sweet and humble and a farm in Michigan.

715
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

716
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: No, I mean, look like, yeah, my grandpa took me

717
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: to my daddy daughter dance when I was little. My

718
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: dad didn't come to my high school graduation. He missed so.

719
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: Much for sure, because Billy Joel is a huge act. Yeah,

720
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: I mean, this isn't like your dad was like, yeah,

721
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean this is yeah, that's like.

722
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: A huge a huge two.

723
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. But yeah, but that's I think what you said

724
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: is too. It's like how intentional they are when they

725
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: are home, you know. And I mean back when this

726
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: is a mi episode, so back in the day, we

727
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: didn't have FaceTime or Skype or anything like that. It's

728
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: like Dad would call maybe once a day from the

729
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: hotel super expensive if he was like overseas, so it

730
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: was like you'd get that one phone call at night

731
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: and that was it. And still I didn't. But nowadays,

732
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: with like FaceTime and everything, it's like if they're missing something,

733
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: you can even put them on FaceTime at the graduation

734
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: or something, you know what I mean. So it's like

735
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: they see it still, which is so cool. I mean,

736
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: my dad wasn't even at my birth. They were doing

737
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: a show in London and Webley Stadium and I have

738
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: actually the drumheads that say happy Birthday tory because my

739
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: dad knew my mom went into labor, played the show

740
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 1: and then flew home.

741
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 3: So I think maybe I did a connect with your

742
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: mom after this. But yeah, by the time.

743
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: Out, Yeah, my dad wasn't at my birth either because

744
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: he was, but he was he was in a wedding band.

745
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: So there's a little bit of a of a difference

746
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 3: here with this one.

747
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: Okay, so my resentment, my my resentment might lie just

748
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 2: a little bit heavier.

749
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: Because my father it was somebody else. And wow, yeah,

750
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: I'm not shocked.

751
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 5: No, I love your dad, but wonderful. But yeah, London,

752
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 5: Billy Joel, that I would understand, Billy Joel, I don't

753
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 5: know the wedding that he missed.

754
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 3: But hey, you know he's rocking it out. It's fine.

755
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 2: It's all in his in his later hosand my God,

756
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: which I crossed. Okay, so I can't what is what

757
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: is the the biggest lesson I guess from from your

758
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: past relationships? You know we've both been married. Uh, well

759
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: I have been a couple, but you know I wasn't

760
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: gonna leave you into that too, KB. But like my

761
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 2: accent in the Michigan floating around somewhere, Yeah, yeah, jac

762
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: from State Farm but on the stage. Oh sorry, But

763
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: what is your biggest kind of lesson from the past

764
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 2: that you're bringing into your new marriage.

765
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: So this is going to sound a little complicated, because

766
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 1: I never want it to sound like I feel because

767
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: I am so grateful for every relationship I've been and

768
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: I've never been in a healthy relationship until now, like

769
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: it's always been. You know, especially when you're dating other

770
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: like artists and actors and musicians, it just can get

771
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: so complicated sometimes. But when I say this, it's not

772
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: to say that there's any relationship that I ever wish

773
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: would have actually lasted. It's just something I learned that

774
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have crap with anyone, and it's like figuring out,

775
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: like is this what I want to work on, because

776
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: it's like your stuff is going to follow you every

777
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: single place you go. Right Like there's relationships I've left

778
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: before because I was like this is awful. I want this,

779
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: But it was always like a fantasy thing I would have.

780
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, the perfect thing has to be

781
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: out there. This is so bad, and yeah, the relationship

782
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: was so bad and I should have left. But then

783
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: I'd get into something new and realize, oh my god,

784
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: this comes with a whole new things of wrong. And

785
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: even in our relationship now, like I'm my Jared, my

786
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: fiance is the most easy going, loving guy on the planet,

787
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: and because of that, I'll find like little things coming

788
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: up for me that I'm holding onto from like my

789
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: past relationships that I've brought in here, and he's so

790
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: willing to talk me through things and stuff, and I'm like,

791
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: you're just gonna have stuff everywhere you go. And sometimes

792
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: the grass isn't always greener, And I didn't you know

793
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I kind of notoriously hop from

794
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: relationship to relationship. I think I was always searching for

795
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: something and I think like, especially after my divorce, I

796
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: realized I was like, oh no, I'm not supposed to

797
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: stay in that. But the grass isn't always greener. So

798
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: it's like, if you find something that's worth working on,

799
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: like work through it, you know what I mean, You're

800
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: not going to find someone that you just have nothing with,

801
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: you know.

802
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, I love that.

803
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: I feel like we have a bag and sometimes it

804
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 2: gets emptied and it always gets refilled, you know, our

805
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 2: bag baggage that we bring.

806
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: Well.

807
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: I think it's easy to get blinded at what you

808
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: said about like having like this to see like that's

809
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 4: very similar to you where it's like you think it

810
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 4: has to be this like amazing magical moment every second

811
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 4: and that's just not always the Yeah, reality and the

812
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 4: good stuff is worth like rounding the edges for I

813
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 4: think absolutely I would rather have a marriage that has

814
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 4: all that like grit and richness and tricky and whatever,

815
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 4: like even cat and you have that with Nick.

816
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: It's like, but it has like depth that way. If

817
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: if you don't have that, you just are like kind

818
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 2: of floaty, and maybe I'd rather get into the weeds

819
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: of things right right, It's like yeah, you know, we

820
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: all go through hard things. Let's let's work through it,

821
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: go through the weeds of it, and then we come

822
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: out stronger. Yeah that's the hope, right, but you both

823
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 2: have to do it.

824
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

825
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: And what I think is important though, is that you

826
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: have the partner that's willing to do that work with

827
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: you and will to go Okay, I see you're going

828
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: through something right now, like let's figure this out, rather

829
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: than like you're going through something you're crazy, Like that's right,

830
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, this is not the one for me.

831
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: But if you want that person that like moves with you,

832
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: like sees beyond what's going on and is like, okay,

833
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: let's figure this out together. I think that's so beautiful.

834
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: I always say, like, it's not about the fights, like

835
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: couples argue and that's okay, it's like, how do you

836
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: work through it? How do you get over it? Do

837
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: you grow do you grow closer? Like that's all that

838
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: matters to me, you know what I mean. It's like,

839
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: this is life. I just so complicated all the time.

840
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: No, I want to with you, Well, I just you

841
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: and I wish that we worked on one tree hill

842
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: at the same time. Because we would have just you know,

843
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: I would have hung out with you in your trail.

844
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: Everybody says that to me. That's works on the show.

845
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, because you and Janet you know her, right,

846
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: you guys are friends. I'm like, I've never met her.

847
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: They're like, oh my god, you guys are like Hillary

848
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: and Sophia and joy of Also, they're like, you two

849
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: are so similar. I can't believe you haven't met. You

850
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: need to meet, and like, we just have never crossed

851
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: the bats, you know.

852
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: But I'm glad that we finally have and hopefully one

853
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: day we can work together. That would be so fun. Okay, well,

854
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: congrats on just everything, and we'll see you at the

855
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: family reunion in Michigan.

856
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: Very excited. I can't wait. It's so fun.

857
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: But I do want to just say one more saying

858
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 2: you are working with safe By. Can you just explain

859
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: that and where people can get help?

860
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: Yes? Absolutely so. Safe Bay is a youth led organization

861
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: that teaches kids about sexual consent and assault. And we

862
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: go to their schools and we give them all the

863
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: curriculum and they can create groups and actually the time

864
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: that they spend are like the time for the college credits.

865
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: I didn't go to college, so I don't know, like thick,

866
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: that's I'm like, you know those times you can put

867
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: towards your college credits to make Safe By groups And

868
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: it's so beautiful, like it teaches kids to be empowered

869
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: around their no and there yes, and it shows them

870
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: their rights and it talks about, you know, all the

871
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: things that you know your your teachers aren't talk to

872
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: you to you about, and so it equips them with

873
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: the just the empowerment of knowing where they can say no,

874
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: where their rights are. And I've gone personally myself with

875
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 1: Safe By so many schools and talk to these kids

876
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: and we've had like auditoriums full, and it's just been

877
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: like volunteer time, like it's not mandatory for them to

878
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: show up when we come, and they're so eager to

879
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: get this knowledge, especially the kids going into high school,

880
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: especially young women going into high school that are like,

881
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not high school starry college that are

882
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: like the statistics of getting sexually assaulted in college really

883
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: scare me, Like, how can I be more aware of this?

884
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: How can I be more preventative? How can I help

885
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: my friends? What's the code we can have, And a

886
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: lot of guys show up too, because they're like, you know,

887
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 1: right now, I don't know how to approach a girl anymore.

888
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to be offensive, I don't want to

889
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: be this. I don't know, I don't know what to do.

890
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: And so it's really cool to see these kids show

891
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: up and just be so eager to learn and want

892
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: to talk about this stuff. It's really a beautiful organization.

893
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 3: How did you get involved with that?

894
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: I was watching this documentary on Netflix like seven eight

895
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: years ago called Audrey and Daisy, and it's about these

896
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: girls that were sexually assaulted and basically how the whole

897
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: their towns. They were in different towns. It followed about

898
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: four different girls and their towns just completely failed them

899
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: and the justice system completely failed them. And it was

900
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: so heartbreaking and so hard to watch that I looked

901
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: up the girls afterwards and I saw that excuse me, pregnancy,

902
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: I get this like acid read.

903
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: I was just saying, like, every time you're breeding, I'm like,

904
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: I remember how how she's breathing like that feat breath.

905
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, proud that you've even sat the song.

906
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: To be honest, I couldn't sit that long I was like,

907
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: I know, I feel like you swallowed like the whole person,

908
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: and they're right there.

909
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's crazy. So I found the girls.

910
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: I contacted them. I saw that they started this organization

911
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: after the documentary had come out, and they were young still,

912
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: they were like twenty years old, and it is so

913
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: a survivor founded you fled organization. And I just got

914
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: in touch with them, and I just built these friendships

915
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: with them and then just started working with them and

916
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: continued to work with beautiful. That was it.

917
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 2: I love that all right, well love you even more.

918
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: That's so sweet, and yeah, thanks for coming on.

919
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is so lovely.

920
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: It was nice everything, nice to meet Bye bye bye.

921
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: Yeah girl, we'll have her on Wine Down tour one

922
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: day when we go back to Michigan. Oh, it'd be

923
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: a fun one.

924
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

925
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: I like her.

926
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 2: She's so sweet, she's perfect from Michigan. She's perfect. I'm like, yes, girl,

927
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: I love anyone that loves on Michigan. Like our RD

928
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: Madonna talked bad about Michigan, and it's like, just I

929
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: want more people to talk nice things about that's beautiful.

930
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful state. It's just really cool. Yeah, it

931
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: can't help it. Rocky points, can we pull a pan

932
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 2: out of the leader hose?

933
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: And sure are we?

934
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 5: Were?

935
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: We just going to keep going past that. I am shocked.

936
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 3: I don't know this. How do we not know that?

937
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: You didn't know this?

938
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: There?

939
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 4: I don't think so, No, he was not there.

940
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: Wow Yeah, wedding band, yeah double wow leader who is

941
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: a triple? I need a minute with myself? Yeah, So

942
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: this is this is funny. But my dad always says this.

943
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: He's like, he tells the story a lot that he

944
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 2: missed my my birth and at the wedding someone told

945
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: him or called him or whatever, and so he's sang

946
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: the Swiss lallah bye to the wedding party.

947
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: So it is in my honor? Is it funny?

948
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: And I'm always just like I don't know how I

949
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 2: feel about that because I'm like you saying it to

950
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: everybody else in my honor?

951
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: But like Dad, you're like in Michigan, Like can he

952
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 3: was in Michigan? Yes, it just keeps kidding and I'm

953
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 3: not trying to like, I'm not trying to talk about it.

954
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: I love my dad like everything, you know, everything is great,

955
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: and it's not like he needed that job for money.

956
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not what he did.

957
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: He did it for his enjoyment. Yea, his wedding band stuff,

958
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: Like my dad had a job, my mom had a job.

959
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 2: It was not like he had to do it. This

960
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: was because he wanted to be a musician.

961
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: Were you early? No, wow, I was doing my due

962
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: today You're like a small percentage? Thanks? Okay, yeah, but

963
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 3: does it shock you?

964
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: No?

965
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: Sorry, I know.

966
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean it feels that like I could

967
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 2: see it. The wedding band thing just really tracks. That's

968
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: going that's my leader German band. So he was in

969
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: this German I mean German photo. It's like the whole

970
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: like German. Later there's like a lot of German just

971
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: say that you have come a long way and so

972
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: but I just I do remember having bang, like the

973
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: the you know singing this was lullaby and I'm like,

974
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: would a nice to me?

975
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: But that's the later prison anyways, Okay, I'm not like

976
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 3: me and girling my dad. I'm not. I maybe I

977
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: don't know.

978
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: I mean credit it meaning was so Florida and how

979
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: we didn't know this yeah, but also like yeah, hey

980
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: listen for four decades maybe back in the day, but

981
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: I was like, I can understand if it was for money, sure,

982
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: for sure, But I don't think that twenty dollars or

983
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: whatever was made at the band job was enough to

984
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: miss your daughters. I can understand if it was in

985
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 2: a different state and then you started and she went,

986
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: it was Billy in London, for sure.

987
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: In London, Yeah, which is so.

988
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: I guess there was a little piece of me that

989
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: just had it a little I guess so trigger moment

990
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: that remembered that little trigger.

991
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

992
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: Maybe that's where my abandonment issues started to start.

993
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 4: As you.

994
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 2: What it's full by in your honor ten minutes down

995
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: the road. Oh man, okay, well, okay, bless okay, well

996
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 2: that was fun. Urs later, wait to call Amy, but

997
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 2: I'm going to therapy in road.

998
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: Don't work