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Speaker 1: You're listening to Ron and Nanian The Car Doctor, nationally

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Speaker 1: recognized auto expert trusted by Mechanics, Weekend wrenchers and vehicle

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Speaker 1: owners alike. Ron brings over forty years of hands on

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Speaker 1: experience and deep industry insight to help you understand your vehicle.

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Speaker 1: Join the Conversation live every Saturday from two to four

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern by calling eight five to five five six

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Speaker 1: start your enginies. The Car Doctor is in the garage

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Speaker 2: And a happy, joyous birthday to the lonely Dick van

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Speaker 2: Dyke who turns one hundred today. As we want to

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Speaker 2: acknowledge that always always a great gentleman of ent and

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Speaker 2: so happy birthday, Dick. Many more to come. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to talk to you a little bit about relationships and

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Speaker 2: the phone calls and the things I talk to people

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Speaker 2: about during the course of the week at the shop,

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Speaker 2: and some of them are humorous, some of them are telling,

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Speaker 2: some of them are funny in a way. Sharon called

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Speaker 2: this week on Tuesday. Sharon's a semi regular customer. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure what generated this situation, but I can make

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Speaker 2: some guesses. The phone calls started out with Hi, Ron,

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Speaker 2: it's Sharon. Yeah, Sharon, I took my car into Honda

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Speaker 2: to the dealer, and I'm expecting her to say for warrant,

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Speaker 2: T work for about fourteen hundred dollars worth of repairs

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Speaker 2: and it's still broken. What do you think I should do?

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Speaker 2: And I sat looking at the phone for about well

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Speaker 2: an eternity, but it was probably only two seconds because

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Speaker 2: I wasn't sure how to answer that question. You know,

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Speaker 2: I think a good repair shop works on relationships, and

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Speaker 2: I kind of count myself among those. We work on relationships,

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Speaker 2: We work on getting to know the customer, We work

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Speaker 2: on trying to work within a budget. We work on

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Speaker 2: a lot of different things, a lot of things beyond

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Speaker 2: just repairing the vehicle, because I think that's what auto

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Speaker 2: repair is about today, you know, and I think you

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Speaker 2: do too. I think a lot of you are there.

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Speaker 2: You know. I was reading a recent article dealership service

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Speaker 2: departments are losing ground to independent repair shops, and the

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Speaker 2: numbers back it up. According to Cox, automotive dealerships are

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Speaker 2: handling about twelve percent fewer service visits than they did

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Speaker 2: just a few years ago. And it seems that you

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Speaker 2: guys are looking for the relationships too. You're looking at price,

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Speaker 2: but you're looking for that relationship. You're looking for that.

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Speaker 2: I think of it as the cheers, remember Cheers, the

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Speaker 2: TV show Cheers, right where everybody knows your name, And

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Speaker 2: I think you're looking for that. When you walk in

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Speaker 2: the door, everybody gets a norm. You know, it's just

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Speaker 2: part of it. And I think that's just so important.

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Speaker 2: And I said to Sharon, I said, you know, here

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Speaker 2: need to do, can I ask why? And she said, well,

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Speaker 2: you know you're busy all the time, and i'd have

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Speaker 2: to schedule. And you know, I said, but did you

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Speaker 2: have to schedule? Well, yeah, I had a schedule with

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Speaker 2: Then what's the difference? I said, was it price, Sharon?

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Speaker 2: Was it fear of expense? And she said a little.

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Speaker 2: And I said, so now, how expensive was it that

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Speaker 2: And she also expressed to me she wonders if they

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Speaker 2: actually did anything. And yeah, you know why it's so

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Speaker 2: important to fix the car right the first time because

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Speaker 2: the doubt of did we actually fix it? And it

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Speaker 2: just casts a shadow on all the best efforts you

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Speaker 2: and it puts a black mark not on just you,

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Speaker 2: but you know, oh, order repair, they're all a bunch

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Speaker 2: some situations, the situations grow and they manifest themselves. I

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Speaker 2: of this vehicle. It's a ninety five Volkswagen Eurovan all right,

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Speaker 2: From what I understand, they had to play with engine adjustments,

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Speaker 2: go home. Whatever purchased it up ste date in New York,

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Speaker 2: I believe they said. But I understand there are holes

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Speaker 2: ninety five thirty one year old Volkswagon with a quarter

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Speaker 2: that might be deemed passable the technology to work on

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Speaker 2: this vehicle. I have half the scan tool, I don't

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Speaker 2: have the complete interface for a ninety five anymore because

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Speaker 2: it is an OBED one vehicle and the connector cable

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Speaker 2: you where it is because it's an antique. It was

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Speaker 2: OBD one, ninety six a ninety six Volkswagon would be

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Speaker 2: OBD two, would be a completely different cable. And regardless

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Speaker 2: of the problems, as you kind of pick your way

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Speaker 2: through this, if you're able to find parts, if you're

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Speaker 2: tree and figure out whatever somebody did wrong. However long

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Speaker 2: ago that was, you still got a vehicle. As Mike,

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Speaker 2: the tech from the other repair shop described to me,

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Speaker 2: as it's undrivable and unreliable. And he made a great point,

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Speaker 2: and I agree with him one hundred percent. He said,

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Speaker 2: you can't get parts for it. So you're going to

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Speaker 2: drive a rusted out, quarter million mile thirty one year

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Speaker 2: starts to get you back out again. Excellent point. And

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Speaker 2: I've said this many times to existing customers in the shop.

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Speaker 2: You know, where's the point of practicality? And that's what

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Speaker 2: a repair shop, beyond fixing cars, is supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: That's that cheers moment. That's that moment where you say, hey,

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Speaker 2: as a shop owner, and you're saying, I know your name,

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Speaker 2: I know what you're trying to do, but I think

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Speaker 2: just be about, yeah, let's take the money, take the money,

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Speaker 2: take the money, take the money. It doesn't it doesn't work.

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Speaker 2: And I expressed that to Sharon going back to the Honda,

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Speaker 2: and try and get some sort of recourse. Was the

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Speaker 2: work done, you know, was the work done that? Was

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Speaker 2: it done so that it was supposed to solve the problem?

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Speaker 2: Was it maintenance? Just what exactly happened. But she has

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Speaker 2: owner and the repair shop is going to suffer because

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Speaker 2: now in her mind, that image is tarnished and she's

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Speaker 2: at the upcoming holiday parties. Right, so you know, so

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Speaker 2: that that cheers moment. Everybody knows your name, everybody. It's

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Speaker 2: about the relationship, It's about fixing the car. That's really

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Speaker 2: are looking for bottom line, how cheap can I get it?

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Speaker 2: And okay, that's great. You'll suffer somewhere along the way.

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Speaker 2: know people that think and it is. Leasing is a

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Speaker 2: great option. You know that leasing is a is a

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Speaker 2: practical point now because you drive a vehicle for three

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Speaker 2: Theoretically and leasing does work. But it's expensive, and that's

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Speaker 2: your point of entry, is your that is your cost

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Speaker 2: to get in that game. That is your point of pain.

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Speaker 2: You don't need a relationship, you don't need to worry

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Speaker 2: about how cheap it is because it's always under warranty.

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Speaker 2: I think auto repair is trying to solve the problems

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Speaker 2: of both the car and the vehicle owner. You're trying

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Speaker 2: to guide people because a lot of you just rightfully

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Speaker 2: so don't know. And that's okay because there are competent

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Speaker 2: and you know there will be moments where as a

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Speaker 2: And that's the relationship. And unfortunately Sharon missed it. I

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Speaker 2: think she's sorry. She did. No digs against her. She's

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Speaker 2: always welcome back, and a lot of you, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's that I said it the first time. Gosh, it's

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Speaker 2: got to be twenty five years ago when I postulated

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Speaker 2: in my mind, I said, order repair is like dating.

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Speaker 2: You got to go date somebody else to decide as

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Speaker 2: the grass really greener or sometimes sometimes it isn't. You

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Speaker 2: just get run over by the lawnmower. And that and

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Speaker 2: of itself is a frightening event. Eight five five, five,

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Speaker 2: six nine nine zero zero is the phone number, by

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Speaker 2: the way, you know, Ho ho, Merry Christmas and all

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Speaker 2: that good holidays thoughts. But we're giving away a car doctor.

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Speaker 2: We'll call it what it is, a hot cocoa cup

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Speaker 2: from Santa this week for every caller, and we want

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Speaker 2: to spread the cheer. Santa said, we're on the nice

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Speaker 2: back to take your calls again at eight five five

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Speaker 2: five six o nine nine zero zero. Talk to you

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Speaker 2: right from then. I'm running AENI and the car Doctor.

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Speaker 2: Don't go away, Hey, let's open up the phone lines

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Speaker 2: and go to Olivia in Maine. Eight five five five

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Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zeros the number Olivia. You're

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Speaker 2: on with the car Doctor. How can I help?

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Speaker 2: Whatever the case is. Yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 3: My husband has a two thousand and three GMC pickup

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Speaker 3: and we were going down a bumpy road that was

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Speaker 3: in the process of being paved, but it wasn't paved yet.

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Speaker 3: The road was all torn up, and all of a

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Speaker 3: sudden we hit this bump and the pickup truck just

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Speaker 3: shut off. Okay, it's a two thousand and three GMC

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Speaker 3: pickup right, got it, and we can't figure out what's

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Speaker 3: wrong with it.

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Speaker 2: Does it run now?

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Speaker 3: No, it won't stop.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Where's the truck now? Is it home? Is it

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Speaker 2: the repair shop? Where is it?

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Speaker 3: It's home?

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Speaker 2: Okay? If you turn the key to the opposition. Does

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so, but it won't stop.

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Speaker 2: I got that part. But the dash lights come on,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think everything light shook.

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Speaker 2: But okay, well, don't think you gotta know. All right,

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Speaker 2: here's the deal, all right? Obviously, if it if it

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Speaker 2: Okay, if it cranks, okay, something got knocked loose or

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Speaker 2: something broke a ground. You know that truck you're in Maine? Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? How rusty is the truck? Is it? Is it

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Speaker 2: looking great? Is it rusty underneath? You've got to think

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Speaker 2: it's almost twenty five years old.

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Speaker 3: Would you rather talk to my husband?

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Speaker 4: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Whoever can help me answer questions?

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Speaker 3: He doesn't want to get up be on the rig.

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Speaker 2: So listen, here's the bottom line.

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Speaker 3: Do you light up him Olivia? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Does it have Do you have a regular mechanic?

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Speaker 3: No, we don't.

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Speaker 2: Okay, why not.

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Speaker 3: Because we can't it?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's do it like this. Do we have

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Speaker 2: Let me give you some pointers, all right? Do you

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Speaker 2: does the check engine light light up when the vehicle

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Speaker 2: when you turn the key.

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Speaker 3: To the on position, up when you turn on keon?

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it lights up, but it won't turn on.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I got that part. So the check engine

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Speaker 2: So it's it's either missing fuel or it's missing ignition.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's just that simple. Somebody, somebody, whether it's

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Speaker 2: have Do we have a loss of fuel? Do we

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Speaker 2: have a loss of ignition? Right? And there's a lot

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Speaker 2: and if it loses them yeah, the truck will just

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Speaker 2: we have electrical power going to the fuse box. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot to test. Hey, listen, the positive is it's broken. Right,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't start right, but you know that at least

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Speaker 2: list forty different things for somebody to go look at. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you know one of the things we could do here,

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Speaker 2: but if it was at a shop, a smart shop, right,

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Speaker 2: one of the first things, one of the first things

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Speaker 2: I should ask that question. Is this the V eight

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Speaker 3: I believe it's the V six.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there should be a mass airflow sensor on this car.

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Speaker 2: There's going to be a yellow sig wire. We could

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Speaker 2: just you know, that's just something a qualified shop can do.

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Speaker 2: But my point becomes, you know, letting it sit in

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Speaker 2: I know you're looking for a silver bullet, but there

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Speaker 2: is no silver bullet. I can tell you what to

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Speaker 2: All right, it's it's it's just that simple.

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Speaker 3: My husband wants to hire a mechanic to come here

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Speaker 3: to the house.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that you're going to find one

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's what I keep trying to tell him.

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Speaker 2: Are you Are you out in the woods, Olivia?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the country, right? And what's surrounded by woods?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: How many? How far is it to the nearest mechanic.

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Speaker 3: About twenty five to thirty miles.

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Speaker 2: Right, So it's going to cost you a couple hundred

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So the other side of this is for your own safety. Right,

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Speaker 2: How reliable is a twenty four year old truck out

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the main woods. Yeah, that's so,

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Speaker 2: you know, at what point? So maybe the real bigger

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Speaker 2: question is you knows And I know you're saying you

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Speaker 3: I know. I keep trying to tell him that he

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Speaker 3: should at least have it towed out of here to see.

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Speaker 3: What's wrong with it is.

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Speaker 2: That your own won't Is that your only vehicle?

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Speaker 3: No, we have a fifty year old UPS truck, but

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Speaker 3: that's broken down right now too.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's time to retire to Florida. Excuse me, Maybe

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Speaker 2: it's time to retire to Florida. At least. Then you're wrong,

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Speaker 2: at least if you at least if you break down

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Speaker 2: and you have to walk, you're walking and warm and

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Speaker 2: sunshine rather than cold and snow exactly. But anyway, listen,

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Speaker 2: stay on the line. We're gonna send you something to

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Speaker 2: warm you up. Tom Ray's gonna get your name and address.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna send you out a car doctor, a hot

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Speaker 2: coffee cup, well actually a hot cocoa cup, courtesy of

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Speaker 2: the car doctor in Santa Claus. Because we want you

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Speaker 2: guys to enjoy the upcoming holiday season. Thank you, You're

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Speaker 2: very welcome there. Don't go anywhere. Let Tom get your information.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know maybe we should, Maybe I should

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Speaker 2: become father Ron Term I get a callar I could

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Speaker 2: give like I can't do marital advice about cars. I

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Speaker 2: just can't. It just doesn't work. Eight five five five

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Speaker 2: six nine nine zero zero. I'm ronnin Andy and the

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Speaker 2: car Doctor. We are back right after this.

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Speaker 5: Yay yay.

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Speaker 2: From the city streets to the open rolling lot.

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Speaker 1: If your run needs help, run, we'll keep you rolling right.

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Speaker 4: It's a car doctor car invist.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for stopping by and sticking with us this hour.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones. Hey, Martin and Hawaii.

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Speaker 2: You run an Indie in the car doctor at your service, sir,

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Speaker 2: How can I help?

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Speaker 5: Car Doctor?

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Speaker 4: I have UH twenty twenty three Dodge Diesel, RAM and Stock,

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Speaker 4: and I'm i googling and like, you know, the To

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Speaker 4: make a long story short, let's have a please a

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Speaker 4: cousin that he's an AS certified mechanic and he's saying,

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Speaker 4: don't do it. And then I have another friend that's

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Speaker 4: like a pirate that he's like delete all of that,

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Speaker 4: all of the and let's get a tuner and let's

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Speaker 4: the truck. So I'm like, so, so.

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Speaker 2: Martin, is this a to put this into the King's English?

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Speaker 2: Is this a question about making putting a tuner on

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Speaker 2: this truck? Is that what you're is that what you're

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Speaker 4: Should I go with a tutor because it's it's no,

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Speaker 4: it's it's costly.

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Speaker 2: Well, so back back up a second, all right, when

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Speaker 2: we talk about adding a tuner and modifying the vehicle,

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Speaker 2: are we talking about A modifying it and working within

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Speaker 2: the confines of the emissions package that's on there, or

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Speaker 2: B stripping everything making it completely illegal and unsellable when

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Speaker 2: all the current emission laws on the books, and just

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Speaker 2: tuning it to the way you want, because that really

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Speaker 2: isn't that And you don't have to be a certified

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Speaker 2: just common sense, right, It's just you know, what are

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Speaker 2: we trying to do? You're trying to gain more power

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Speaker 4: Way to do I'm actually I'm actually trying to get

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Speaker 4: more economy out of the out of the vehicle. Okay,

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Speaker 4: you get the tuner down and you put it into economy,

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Speaker 4: I could get it down to like twenty two miles

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Speaker 4: a gallon, right, diesel? And you know this is Hawaii, brother,

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Speaker 4: everything's expensive. Yes, So I'm trying to.

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Speaker 2: What's a gallon of diesel cost out there? Well, what's

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Speaker 2: what's a gallon of diesel cost out there? Martin?

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Speaker 4: Almost right now? Right now, it's almost like about six bucks.

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Speaker 2: Six bucks a gallon for a gallon of diesel fuel? Wow? Right?

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Speaker 2: And then how much is the tuner kit?

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Speaker 4: If if I buy the whole thing with labor and everything. Yep,

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at spending like fourteen grand.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're gonna spend let's make it fifteen. Let's

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Speaker 2: allow the guy to eat lunch. Right, so we're gonna

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Speaker 2: spend fifteen We're gonna spend fifteen grand to get how

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Speaker 2: much better fuel economy? Two more miles per gallon, three

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Speaker 2: more miles per gallon, five more miles per gallon? What's

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Speaker 2: the predicted outcome?

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Speaker 4: Well, I figured if I if I, if I keep

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Speaker 4: the well, it's a it's a work truck, so when

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Speaker 4: I work it, when I work it, you know it's

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Speaker 4: gonna make money. So it's a.

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Speaker 2: Martin What do you do for this, Martin? What do

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Speaker 2: you do for a living? What kind of work truck?

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Speaker 2: Is it delivery?

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Speaker 4: Marbling marbling granted marbling brand? You know? So, so it's heavy.

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Speaker 2: Right, So so here, let's do the math. What I'm

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Speaker 2: So you know we're gonna spend fifteen grand. Let's say

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Speaker 2: there's enough people out there driving Ram Diesel pickups. Somebody

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Speaker 2: else must have tried this. Somebody else must have used

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Speaker 2: five percent more fuel economy, or the company can come

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Speaker 2: up with predictions. Hey, if you're getting twenty, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: you're gonna get twenty five. So go that extra five

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Speaker 2: the payback? Right, that's that's.

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Speaker 4: Over over time, right, that would payback?

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Speaker 2: Right, what's what's the payback over time? That's number one?

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Speaker 2: Number two? You know, where is that number? If the

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Speaker 2: in New Jersey. I can't speak for Hawaii, all right.

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Speaker 2: In New Jersey we see the typical diesel owner. Diesel

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Speaker 2: Injectors replaced five six seven thousand dollars worth of work.

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Speaker 2: And everybody goes, yes, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: go buy another vehicle. And where's that point. Here's here's

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Speaker 2: where I'm coming from.

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Speaker 4: Because then you're putting money into a bat that it's

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Speaker 4: not worth what.

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Speaker 2: Well, and here's the biggest catch. Here's the biggest catch. Okay,

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Speaker 2: putting a tuner kit on if the tunic kit requires

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Speaker 2: removing the federal emissions package, the regeneration process for the cat,

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00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: removing the cat and all the other things. And it's

434
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 2: in the news right they're talking about this at the

435
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: federal level, that a lot of the diesel performance packages

436
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: are being looked at and of course, the federal government's

437
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: about the or they're considering rolling back the diesel exemption

438
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: to increase my but they haven't done it yet, is

439
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: my point? Right? You take that emissions package off that

440
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: twenty three diesel pickup, all right? How much was that truck?

441
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 2: Sixty seventy eighty.

442
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 4: Martin I paid. I had to pick cash for it,

443
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 4: and I've paid, like, yeah, I paid like seventy seventy

444
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 4: eight thousand dollars.

445
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 2: It's an eighty thousand dollars vehicle. And you're gonna take

446
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: it and make it illegal in the eyes of the

447
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: federal government from emissions. You're gonna make it unsellable because

448
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 2: you got to hope that the guy you sell it

449
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: to is i'll use your term, a pirate, okay, and

450
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 2: he's willing to plunk down. I don't know what the

451
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 2: number is going to be in five years, forty to

452
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: fifty grand, thirty grand whatever for a diesel truck with

453
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 2: high mileage. It's got an illegal emissions control system on it,

454
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: provided you don't get picked up on some sort of

455
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: side inspection like they do here in New Jersey. Why

456
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: are we doing this? Why are we doing this? Brother?

457
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,719
Speaker 2: And then wait, and then now that truck's gonna get

458
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 2: mileage on it, right, and then sooner or later it's

459
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: gonna break. Who's gonna fix it. Who's gonna have the

460
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 2: knowledge to fix it? How that how the tuner kid

461
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: bypasses whatever circuits to allow proper diagnosis.

462
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 4: The same pirate that did yeah, right, And you gotta

463
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 4: hope that that's point.

464
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 2: You gotta hope that that same pirate. You gotta hope

465
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 2: that that same pirate is a still alive b still

466
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: in the business. And see how's the smarts to fix it?

467
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 2: You know, I'll leave it here, all right, because it's

468
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: a much longer conversation. Wait, it's it's a much longer conversation,

469
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 2: all right. You can buy You can buy two kinds

470
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: of vehicles. Vehicles are like the roof on your house.

471
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: You can buy a vehicle that's got a black tar roof,

472
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 2: simple and easy to fix. Or you can buy a

473
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: vehicle that's got a copper plated roof expensive, got to

474
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: find the qualified guy to work on it. What do

475
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: you want and what's the payback and what's the reward

476
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: If you're buying a copper plated roofed house just for

477
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: the look, it's not necessary. There's no return on investment.

478
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: My opinion, my two cents, which is why I think

479
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 2: you called me. I'd probably keep the vehicle where it is.

480
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 2: I would go visit Hotshot Secrets website. You knew I

481
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: was going to take you here. I would look at

482
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 2: their fuel additives. I would call up and talk to them.

483
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: They're a very smart company. These guys are born and

484
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: bred for diesels. They'll help you get the maximum performance

485
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: out of that stock vehicle, staying within federal emissions requirements,

486
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 2: and it'll be the best you can get. But at

487
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: least you're safe, and the vehicle still reliable, and the

488
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: vehicle can still be repaired anywhere and still be under

489
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 2: and maintain its warranty. Enough speeches, by the way, stay

490
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 2: on the line. Time's gonna get your information. We're gonna

491
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 2: send you out a car doctor, hot coco or a

492
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: coffee cup, and we're glad to do it. So always

493
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 2: happy to talk to you, Martin. You'd be well. I'm

494
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: run an ad in the car doctor. We are back

495
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 2: right after this Ay eight by five, five, six, nine

496
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 2: nine zero zero on an Innie in the car Doctor.

497
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: Let's go over to John in California, eighty five Chevy Laser.

498
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: This is old truck. Week here in the car, doctor,

499
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 2: I think, John, how can I help you today? What's

500
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: going on?

501
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 5: Hi doing Ron? Thanks for having me launch Dan?

502
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: Thank you sir.

503
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 5: So it's a I've had it about six months. It's

504
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 5: always had a really bad heavy exhaust, gas smell in

505
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 5: the cabin and I'm talking so bad. I mean, drive

506
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 5: for half an hour, your clothing smells like gas and

507
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 5: you get aheadache dot Dad. So the first thing I

508
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 5: tried was I had the pipes were really short. I

509
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 5: had them poured it out by the driver area, door area.

510
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 5: How do those pulled back to pass? There were tires,

511
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 5: but even that didn't really do anything at all. So

512
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 5: I'm trying to figure the next steps.

513
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: Okay. So so if we sit in the vehicle without

514
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 2: it running, do we smell anything?

515
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 4: No?

516
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's only with the engine operating correct right?

517
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: So you know California. I always think of everything, as

518
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: you know, sun surf, chrome, polished, no leaks, no rust.

519
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: How rusty is the truck.

520
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 5: It's actually most of its life was in Arizona and

521
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 5: sou and I actually lived in Las Vegas, Nevada. So

522
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 5: there's there's no rust at all.

523
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: Okay, So you know, if I have the ability, you know,

524
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: I could go at this a couple of ways. I

525
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: would either I would either look, do I have a

526
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: leak in the floorboard? I guess My first question is

527
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: is the vehicle physically running so rich or so fat

528
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 2: as I like to think of it that you know,

529
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: there's a reason that it's overloaded the system, there's a

530
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: reason I'm getting the smells in the in the vehicle,

531
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: or is there physically any holes in the floor But

532
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've looked at all that, correct.

533
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have. And you meet a good point though,

534
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 5: because it is a new well not a new range.

535
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 5: But it's an LS five point three is not the

536
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 5: original engine, so maybe that's something to do with it.

537
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so if it's an LS, they have a

538
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: habit of breaking exhaust manifold studs even though it's new. Right,

539
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: how new is new? You purchased it like that?

540
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 5: I did, so I'm not totally sure.

541
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: Right, so you know new could be they did it

542
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: ten years ago. So do this do something simple? Right?

543
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: Look at the it is it worse when it's cold

544
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: or it's there all the time, or.

545
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I feel it gets really bad when the

546
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 5: engine gets warmed up and hot, like when I drive

547
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: for like half an hour more than it gets really overwhelming.

548
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So a couple of things we want to know.

549
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: Did they bypass the original emissions on that eighty five vehicle?

550
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: They what do they do with the canister lines, the

551
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: purge line out of the tank because eighty five they

552
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: still had purge, right, they still would have had a

553
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: venting system. What do they do with all the fuel

554
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: emissions purge and vent? And then you know, take a

555
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: look at the exhaust manifolds on each side. It's usually

556
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: in the beginning of the manifold or at the end

557
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: of the manifold. As they as they heat up and

558
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: cool down, heat up and cool down, it would pop

559
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: the nut off and you won't even realize it's gone.

560
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: You'll look at the you'll look at the manifold and

561
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: you'll see a studden a nut studding a nut, and

562
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, there's no nut, but there's

563
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: a hole and half of a stud sticking out. Okay,

564
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: and has it has it lost its clamp so to speak?

565
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 5: Okay, I got actually concerned that the firewall is actually reached,

566
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: but it sounds like it might be more of a

567
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 5: manifold things well, and you know, and.

568
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: That's fair too. How close is it to the firewall?

569
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: And now it's a modified vehicle, so as dumb as

570
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: it sounds, depending upon how close the engine is to

571
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: the firewall, maybe I'm gonna take a little pocket magnet

572
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: and you know, touch the firewall, make sure it's all

573
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: metal or is there plastic bondo when they're somewhere. Yeah,

574
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: you know, I'm looking for I'm looking for the ridiculous.

575
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: Can you get this vehicle up in the air?

576
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 4: Uh?

577
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a pretty good mechanic. Okay, yeah, he's

578
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 5: got all that.

579
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: Can we can we take you know, a twenty dollars

580
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: mechanic stethoscope available in any advanced autoparts and sit there

581
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: and listen to the exhaust system. Just just just go

582
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: down to each seam and joint. Right, it's got to

583
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: be quiet, you know. Now I'm willing to accept a

584
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: small amount of exhaust leak, but but you know, how

585
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: much of an exhaust leak? Right? How much am I tolerating?

586
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: And then my last question is does your mechanic on

587
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: the chance that he has one. Does he still have

588
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: a five gas analyzer? You know, remember the old emissions

589
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: probe up the tailpipe stuff?

590
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 5: Oh right, I got you anymore?

591
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: You see anymore? But if he sets it to hydrocarbons

592
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: with the vehicle off, if he probes around the gas tank,

593
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: do hydrocarbons go crazy showing maybe the fuel tank has

594
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: got a small seeping leak or perhaps a hose tucked

595
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: up where you're not going to see it where it's

596
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 2: not supposed to be, and that's what's causing the problem.

597
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: So just just some things to be aware of that

598
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: you've got to go look at. Do that, call me

599
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: back and stand the line that Tom get your information.

600
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: We're going to send you out a car doctor coffee cup,

601
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: I mean a hot cocoa cup. I don't want to

602
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: upset Santa, and we want to stay on the nice

603
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: list this year, so you can look forward to that.

604
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: We're happy to have you as a listener. I'm running

605
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: ay and the car Doctor we're back right after this.

606
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: Well that was a quick hour. I want to leave

607
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: you with this thought about how sometimes simple gets to

608
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: be well simple isn't simple anymore? Two things, two cars,

609
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: twenty eleven Lexiss three fifty. We're still working on the

610
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: parking break cable fiasco. I'm not sure Lexus ever wanted

611
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: the cables changed when we left on Friday, and we'd

612
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: only gotten to it a couple of days last week

613
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: because we were very busy in the shop. But we're

614
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: picking away at it. The seats are out, the center

615
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: console is out. They get the center console at It

616
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: required the two of us, one to hold the car

617
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: put up, the other guy to turn the wrench. It

618
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: was one of those deals and we hope to get

619
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: that car out of there this week. And then the

620
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: other one was the twenty seventeen Chevy Tracks right you think, gee,

621
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: newer cars simple. We had to go through four manufacturers

622
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: of wiper blaze before we found one that actually fit

623
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: because of this crazy Kakamami hook they've got on the

624
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: wiper arm. So sometimes simple isn't simple and it gets

625
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: very involved. Be aware of that when you talk to

626
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: your mechanic. Give them a break. They need it. I'm

627
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: ronning eighty in the car Doctor, reminding you till the

628
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

629
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Speaker 4: C A Car Doctor.

630
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Speaker 2: Car advice to right,