Speaker 1: Shooters, an unrestricted free agent this year, probably made one
Speaker 1: of the most bonehead decisions in the history of the
Speaker 1: league by turning down at eighty four million dollar extension.
Speaker 1: Mattie Johnson came out and said, Schroeder is not Laker material.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna get the hundred many men,
Speaker 1: and he's looking for for sure, not the Legers. And
Speaker 1: if anybody know belongs in the Leger for him is magic. Johnson.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to what's burning. We're in the midst of
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Jack. Let's start first with the Nets and Bucks.
Speaker 1: The Bucks were able to tie it to two at home,
Speaker 1: showing some life. Joannice Middleton, Holiday Tucker all had strong outings.
Speaker 1: Big loss for the Nets. Kyrie Irving goes down with
Speaker 1: the severely sprained ankle. Thoughts on game four and what
Speaker 1: has to happen in game five? Uh, you know they
Speaker 1: I think they're doing a great job on Jhannese. He
Speaker 1: only has three moves and they think they're starting to
Speaker 1: figure it out. I think the biggest thing that I've
Speaker 1: been taking away from the game is Militon Milton is
Speaker 1: really coming to his own. You have a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that's supposed to be stars that don't show up
Speaker 1: in the in the postseason. Militon is really carrying his
Speaker 1: team right now. He's making the big shots. He's making
Speaker 1: the big plays. And also you gotta give p J.
Speaker 1: Tucker credit but making it difficult for Katie. But going forward,
Speaker 1: the next have to get healthy, man, they have to
Speaker 1: get healthy. Um, it's a series now. Kyleeminder is definitely
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he's gonna be out next game. So
Speaker 1: Katie really has to make it easy for himself. Stop
Speaker 1: dribbling the ball to cork catch the Boston want to
Speaker 1: post the area and save some energy, and because they're
Speaker 1: definitely gonna need him to be at his best. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean p J Tucker uh playing good
Speaker 1: d great? D Uh What I like that? I mean
Speaker 1: they're letting Tucker really body up k D Like this
Speaker 1: is reminds me of late nineties, early two thousands defense.
Speaker 1: I mean, nowadays you can't really touch no one, but
Speaker 1: you're seeing p J. Tucker really put his body and
Speaker 1: be physical. Coach Nash spoke about it after a game,
Speaker 1: calling some of the players not even basketball players. So
Speaker 1: Tucker is definitely doing a good job. And trying to
Speaker 1: slow k D down. But one thing you can't count
Speaker 1: on is Katie going nine for twenty five from the field. Again,
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to make some adjustments. I mean, Katie
Speaker 1: is really the only playmaker out there now, So how
Speaker 1: does he get the rest of the guys involved and
Speaker 1: still will score at a high level? Is what's gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting. Um. Obviously, with Kyrie missing probably most likely
Speaker 1: gonna miss game five, does that mean James Hardness gonna
Speaker 1: try to rush his progress. I mean, he can try
Speaker 1: to rush it, or they can try to rush it,
Speaker 1: but we all know hamstrings, man, hamstrings. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: know if you can really go until you have to
Speaker 1: make an instinctual decision or an instinctual reaction. You can
Speaker 1: test it all you want, because all of those are
Speaker 1: calculated moves, but you're not really gonna know until you're
Speaker 1: in the game. Um, if you have it. So obviously,
Speaker 1: this is everyone's favorite or our favorites to come out
Speaker 1: of the East and possibly contend for a title. But
Speaker 1: if they're not healthy, uh, I mean, this is this
Speaker 1: is a big opportunity for Milwaukee to to overcome them
Speaker 1: and hopefully head to the Eastern Conference Final, So this
Speaker 1: is gonna be interesting to watch the next series we
Speaker 1: had East with the Hawks and Sixers. Philly regained home
Speaker 1: court advantage by going into Atlanta and taking game three.
Speaker 1: Game four is tipping off shortly. Man In Beads, Simmons,
Speaker 1: and Harris all delivered in Game three, and normally when
Speaker 1: their bench plays well, it's always gonna be a good
Speaker 1: sign for Philly. Um. I low key think Atlanta is
Speaker 1: just out masters deep as they are. I think this
Speaker 1: is a great valuable playoff experience, but I just think
Speaker 1: Philly is too deep. Jack, what are your thoughts on
Speaker 1: tonight's Game four and moving forward? Do you think Atlanta
Speaker 1: can push this to a six or seven game series?
Speaker 1: I really don't. Man and beat it just too much.
Speaker 1: And if he's if he's healthy and he's able to
Speaker 1: do what he's been doing, he's gonna dominate the game.
Speaker 1: He's gonna put his in print in the game and
Speaker 1: make sure they win. Atlanta has to has to mix
Speaker 1: the game up. They get like it's the old saying,
Speaker 1: they gotta throw some ship in the game. Um, They're
Speaker 1: gonna have to either hack Ben Simmons do a hacker.
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons. It's something to try to take their momentum
Speaker 1: where you can't just let uh and be get the
Speaker 1: ball every play and and and dominate the game. Harris
Speaker 1: is playing well, Simmons is actually playing was also um.
Speaker 1: But if they can kind of try to mix this
Speaker 1: game up, make the game a little dirty, they have
Speaker 1: a better chance of winning. But if they're just playing
Speaker 1: basketball and let him be do what you want to do,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be going home. Really, it's gonna be trouble.
Speaker 1: Um notable Dan Danny Green's out two weeks with the
Speaker 1: calf strain. DeAndre Hunter is out for the Hawks. I
Speaker 1: think it's important. I was Atlanta has a home game
Speaker 1: tonight if they can win this game and and maybe
Speaker 1: push it to six. But if they lose tonight, I
Speaker 1: see Philly closing it out in Philly next game and
Speaker 1: onto the Eastern Conference finals for the seventy sixers. So
Speaker 1: we'll have to pay attention to see how that goes
Speaker 1: headed out West, big matchup tonight between the Clippers and Jazz.
Speaker 1: Game five will be on Wednesday. Paul George stepped up
Speaker 1: big and answered the call by leading the Clippers last game.
Speaker 1: Him and Kauai were incredible. Found out. Serge Ibaka has
Speaker 1: had sending season engine back surgery. Uh. The Clippers used
Speaker 1: that small ball formula to to mess the game up
Speaker 1: though some ship in the game, as they did with Dallas,
Speaker 1: and it worked well for them versus Utah. Jack thoughts
Speaker 1: on Game three, Game four tonight and moving forward what
Speaker 1: you see in this series, Well, Paul and Kauai have
Speaker 1: to be dominant. Um if they're not gonna use Buggie
Speaker 1: and let Bussy Tech Boogie take go Bart out the game,
Speaker 1: paula gonna have to be dominant like there was last game.
Speaker 1: A lot of people put a lot of pressure on
Speaker 1: on Paul, me myself as well, because I know what
Speaker 1: he can do and I know what he means to
Speaker 1: that team. But if they be that one two points,
Speaker 1: they could definitely gonna be hard to beat. I think
Speaker 1: the question about this series is who's gonna be good
Speaker 1: enough to win the game on the road. Both of
Speaker 1: these seems struggle on the road in the playoffs. What
Speaker 1: team is gonna be that team to get a win
Speaker 1: on the road, And I think that's gonna tell the
Speaker 1: tell of the series. Donovan Mitchell has came out the
Speaker 1: gate strong man averaging thirty seven UM through the first
Speaker 1: three games, went down with that right ankle injury and
Speaker 1: didn't return. Possibly could have returned, but the game was
Speaker 1: kind of out of hand, so I think coach Snyder
Speaker 1: kept him on the sideline. Jordan Clarks has been playing
Speaker 1: his ass off at about nineteen points a game, hit
Speaker 1: six threes in Game one, end Game two. Bob Donovich,
Speaker 1: Ingles Gobert, all doing what they're supposed to do. I'm
Speaker 1: impressed what this team has been able to do without
Speaker 1: their starting all star point guarding Mike Conley. Yeah. I think.
Speaker 1: I think the good thing about it is they they're
Speaker 1: excited about having Connley back, but Jackson has been playing
Speaker 1: well on the other side, so um, I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna even each other out. Jackson has really stepped up
Speaker 1: for the Clippers, man, and he's been hit some big
Speaker 1: shots for them too, so it's gonna be good to
Speaker 1: see that matchup. I think Tyler made a great adjustment
Speaker 1: by finally taking the handcuffs off Jackson. He's beginning he
Speaker 1: was getting he was getting pulled in and out all season.
Speaker 1: They were going with Pat Bev as a starting guard,
Speaker 1: and then Pat BEV went down towards the end of
Speaker 1: the season and gave Jackson really a chance to show
Speaker 1: how good he I mean, we all know how talents
Speaker 1: he is, but he's definitely been playing his ass off.
Speaker 1: Probably the unsung hero for that Clipper team this round.
Speaker 1: Man been hitting big shots, making big plays, keeping the
Speaker 1: team fired up. This is gonna be an interesting series.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Clippers went down oh two last
Speaker 1: last series, and we're able to get Dallas in seven tonight.
Speaker 1: They got a chance to even up the series at
Speaker 1: two to two. Could they possibly be I think they'd
Speaker 1: be the first team in NBA history to go down
Speaker 1: oh two in the first two rounds and win both series.
Speaker 1: But you know, with all the injuries happening, I mean,
Speaker 1: to me, this playoff is wide open now. Obviously, we
Speaker 1: thought the Lakers were gonna be the favorite in the West,
Speaker 1: they got hurt. We thought that Nets were gonna be
Speaker 1: the favorite in the East. Now they're hurt. I think
Speaker 1: this opens a door for everybody, whether it's Phoenix, Utah,
Speaker 1: the Clippers out West Milwaukee, Philly. I mean, there's no
Speaker 1: clear cut favorite this year, and I think that's the
Speaker 1: first time in a while we haven't had a clear
Speaker 1: cut favorite man, so these playoffs have been great. Hopefully
Speaker 1: everyone can stay healthy so we can see the best
Speaker 1: of these teams. But we all know injuries are a
Speaker 1: part of the game. It takes a lot of luck
Speaker 1: to get through this ship and we're gonna see who finishes, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, finishes on their feet on the radar presented
Speaker 1: to you by Draft Kings. Sons were able to sweep
Speaker 1: the Nuggets last night, improving their odds to plus one
Speaker 1: thirty five to win the West. The Jazz red plus
Speaker 1: one twenty. The Clippers are at plus three twenty. CB
Speaker 1: three lad the Suns last night, with obviously a lot
Speaker 1: of help from Deva Booker. In the closeout game, CP
Speaker 1: had thirty seven, book had thirty four. They're able to
Speaker 1: now rest up and get some more time for Chris's
Speaker 1: shoulder to heal. Uh. The Sons are very impressive and
Speaker 1: I think we definitely owe them some respect. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're lying. Whoever says they saw the Suns in the
Speaker 1: Western Conference final at the beginning of playoffs are lying.
Speaker 1: Although we're huge fans of CP three, the odds were
Speaker 1: just stacked against him, but he's been able to overcome
Speaker 1: that shoulder injury and leave these guys to the Western
Speaker 1: Conference Finals. And I couldn't be happier for this team, Jack,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on them and him and Book
Speaker 1: and the rest of the Phoenix Suns. Well, I remember
Speaker 1: texting CP three probably a month ago that he was
Speaker 1: my m v p um and he definitely played like
Speaker 1: last night. Him and Book of definitely a two headed
Speaker 1: monster that's kind of looking unstoppable right now. Um. I
Speaker 1: love the way they're playing. I love the way they
Speaker 1: went there and dominated, and uh and and and and
Speaker 1: made they claim for a team that's that's to be
Speaker 1: reckoned with in the Western Conference. Obviously, I don't have
Speaker 1: them win in the Western Conference. If the Clippers can
Speaker 1: make it out, I see the Clippers who are making
Speaker 1: out this series. I see the Clippers winning it. But
Speaker 1: I would love to see these two teams go ahead
Speaker 1: to here in the West Conference finals. Now I agree.
Speaker 1: I mean, and what I like about the Sun so
Speaker 1: obviously the story the journey of coach williams Uh you
Speaker 1: know him and Chris being so close, but the way
Speaker 1: they've been able to get everyone else outside of their
Speaker 1: two superstars to play well. Aton's been playing well, Crowder
Speaker 1: has been playing well. All the young kids off the
Speaker 1: bench are playing like they've done this before. You know,
Speaker 1: this is a lot of their first time in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and these guys that have not been shined by the lights,
Speaker 1: they continuing to play hard and they're playing the best
Speaker 1: basketball in the playoffs right now. So for me to
Speaker 1: continue to go against them, I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do that. I'm gonna wait and see who comes
Speaker 1: out of this Utah and the Clipper series. But right now,
Speaker 1: you know, Phoenix is hot, man. And we all know
Speaker 1: it's not always who the best team is, is who's
Speaker 1: the who's playing the best at the right time, And
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns are definitely playing the best at the
Speaker 1: right time. You remember in the bubble last year they
Speaker 1: won eighth straight. Um, I think there's seven and one
Speaker 1: in the playoffs or eight and one in the playoffs now,
Speaker 1: So playing really good basketball and looking forward to what
Speaker 1: they're able to do in the in the Western Conference Finals. Again,
Speaker 1: shout out to our man CP three. Some argue should
Speaker 1: have been the m v P. I was definitely on
Speaker 1: that bandwagon, but hey, is what it is. But the
Speaker 1: best of luck for them moving forward. Had a great
Speaker 1: opportunity man to sit down with my man Phil Handy,
Speaker 1: who's been collecting rings the past few years, one of
Speaker 1: the best basketball minds in the game. His episode drops
Speaker 1: this Thursday, June. Enjoy this teaser. I have a like
Speaker 1: a real deep appreciation and for the journey that I've
Speaker 1: been on because of because of how I became a
Speaker 1: coach in the NBA. You know, Mike Brown obviously gave
Speaker 1: me an opportunity. I wasn't a dude that was you know,
Speaker 1: had a long NBA career. I mean, I had a
Speaker 1: long basketball career and played overseas. But I've always had
Speaker 1: this thing of for me personally, man, I just I
Speaker 1: want to compete to win. That's just it's in me.
Speaker 1: And you know that it doesn't always work out like
Speaker 1: that everybody does. But I got to the Lakers. You know, again,
Speaker 1: I was obviously at the end of Kobe's career going
Speaker 1: going into it. You know, we had our struggles with
Speaker 1: that team. But when I went to Cleveland, Mike got
Speaker 1: fired and he asked me to come to Cleveland. One
Speaker 1: of the things he said to me was one we
Speaker 1: want you to mentor Kyrie to that there's a chance
Speaker 1: of le Bron might come back to Cleveland, who knows.
Speaker 1: So I went to Cleveland my first year. We were terrible.
Speaker 1: Dog shit, We're just young team trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: And Bron came back the next year and we went
Speaker 1: through that season, ups and downs. You know, kay Love
Speaker 1: was getting in the ready whole career, and we ended
Speaker 1: up making to the finals. Once we got there. For
Speaker 1: me now like walking into an oracle going back home
Speaker 1: from So that first opportunity was just like, man, this
Speaker 1: is crazy. And when we got there, all I kept
Speaker 1: saying to myself was, man, there's nothing else. There's no
Speaker 1: other feeling that you want. Now, look, it's not guaranteed,
Speaker 1: but I've always wanted to put myself in a position
Speaker 1: and where every year I want to be part of
Speaker 1: a team that's trying to compete for a championship. That's
Speaker 1: my mindset, competitor in man. People, you know, some people
Speaker 1: say you'ring chasing. What do you call it? Whatever you want?
Speaker 1: I want to win. I'm not in this for money
Speaker 1: or you know what. I'm I'm a purious to the
Speaker 1: game of basketball. So what opportunities can I put myself
Speaker 1: in to where we can compete for a championship. And
Speaker 1: you know, went through that run in Cleveland kind of
Speaker 1: like I went through a spell where my time in
Speaker 1: Cleveland kind of came to a you know, it came
Speaker 1: to an end. I was there for five years and
Speaker 1: then it was like what's next. So, you know, I
Speaker 1: knew bron was was leaving out of the East and
Speaker 1: Toronto had been a team that we have been competing against,
Speaker 1: you know, for years in the playoffs, and I always
Speaker 1: kind of felt like the only reason why they couldn't
Speaker 1: make that hump was because Bron was just every year
Speaker 1: and they did to run into him at some point
Speaker 1: in our teams. So when the whole thing shifted, you know,
Speaker 1: I played for Nick Nurse in Europe, so Nick became
Speaker 1: the head coach and I looked at Toronto said, man,
Speaker 1: they have a team that can compete. And this was
Speaker 1: before Kauai. I looked at the mar I loved this game.
Speaker 1: I love Kyle Lowry, I love some of the young
Speaker 1: players that they had, and I said, man, shoot, it's
Speaker 1: the East is wide open. There's a chance there. So
Speaker 1: when the opportunity presented itself, I said, I'm going to Toronto.
Speaker 1: You know, Nick wanted me on the staff man. Two
Speaker 1: days after I signed my contract and agreed to terms,
Speaker 1: I woke up ESPN Troynto Raptors have traded Martin Rosen
Speaker 1: for kau Bro. I was like, come on man, Like
Speaker 1: you said, man, I'm like, I'm like, come on man again,
Speaker 1: just utmost respect for tomorrow because he's a he's a cooper,
Speaker 1: competitive and you know, I didn't know why. But when
Speaker 1: he came to came to Toronto and saw that he
Speaker 1: was healthy, I was like, look, man, we gotta we
Speaker 1: got a real chance, Bro, you have a real chance.
Speaker 1: And so that year went the way it went. You know,
Speaker 1: I have a seven year old son who lives here
Speaker 1: in l A. You know, Brian. Me and Brian always
Speaker 1: kept in touch. So it just it worked out for
Speaker 1: me to come back to l A and we go
Speaker 1: back to the finals again. I couldn't I couldn't write
Speaker 1: this story. You know. The only thing I can do
Speaker 1: is one be grateful, you know, because like you said,
Speaker 1: it's not guaranteed. I have a lot of respect for
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches that are coaching the league for
Speaker 1: thirty years. Some have never been to the finals. Some
Speaker 1: of the never been to a conference finals. So I
Speaker 1: don't look at this journey and say it's been a
Speaker 1: cake walk. You know, I'm just looking at Sam and
Speaker 1: I keep my head down every day, keep grinding and
Speaker 1: keep working and just try to try to put yourself
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Speaker 1: some big time point guards potentially changing cities this summer.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Kimba Walker, who showed his displeasure as
Speaker 1: the Celtics tried to shop him. He's owed seventy million
Speaker 1: over the next two years. Someone who found himself in Charlotte,
Speaker 1: missed six games and four seasons there, has missed forty
Speaker 1: five games in the last two seasons. With Boston, He's
Speaker 1: owed a lot of money. High profile point guards haven't
Speaker 1: worked there in the past couple of years. Obviously that
Speaker 1: the Kyrie experiment didn't work. This doesn't look like it's working.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts with Kimba's decision and uh him
Speaker 1: moving forward? Uh, He's a great player. Definitely is some
Speaker 1: guard that can help in the organization. I just don't
Speaker 1: know where Matt uh. He had a great opportunity in Charlotte,
Speaker 1: was an All Star, was the leader of that team,
Speaker 1: was a Jordan Baskett. Everything was looking good for him
Speaker 1: in Charlotte. That didn't work. You get to Boston, you
Speaker 1: have two of the greatest young stars in the game
Speaker 1: right now, and that's not being able to work. So
Speaker 1: I really don't know what's the fifth form of what's
Speaker 1: going on. Obviously, UM, I think he wants a bigger role,
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you have to look in
Speaker 1: the mirror and know who you are. You're not that
Speaker 1: big of a guard, You're not the greatest defender at
Speaker 1: point guard. So I just think um, he has a
Speaker 1: way as obviously to see what's best for him. But
Speaker 1: if you can make it work in Boston, I think
Speaker 1: you should because I think that's his best bet at
Speaker 1: winning and being able to to look good from stuff
Speaker 1: with those two young stars with him. See, I don't
Speaker 1: know if, if if Boston needs a scoring point guard,
Speaker 1: I think they need more of a playmaker. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: a Rondo type, not a Rondo Rondo. You know Rondo's
Speaker 1: on the back stide of his career. But when you
Speaker 1: have two point scoring a night wings, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you need a twenty point a night scoring point guard.
Speaker 1: I think you need more of a playmaker, decision maker,
Speaker 1: guys that can settle down, get them into offense, get
Speaker 1: them into something. So I'm not really sure that Kimba
Speaker 1: is a great fit there. And the biggest thing is
Speaker 1: he he hasn't been able to stay healthy. You know,
Speaker 1: he's had the knee issues in Boston. When he's played well,
Speaker 1: the team has been well. But he's been in and
Speaker 1: out so much the past two Season's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to get a real good measure on what he what
Speaker 1: what those three stars can do. So it'll be interesting
Speaker 1: to see what happens is offseason. He still owed a
Speaker 1: lot of money over the next two seasons, and like
Speaker 1: you said, he's not the biggest guy and he's not
Speaker 1: as durable as they used to be. So it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see um if he's able to stay or
Speaker 1: you know, the the Celtics make a move with him.
Speaker 1: So we'll have to stand by and check that out.
Speaker 1: Next up, who should the Lakers target to replay Shrewder.
Speaker 1: Shredder is an unrestricted free agent this year, probably maybe
Speaker 1: one of the most bonehead decisions in the history of
Speaker 1: the league, by turning down an eighty four million dollar
Speaker 1: extension offered to him earlier in the season by the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Didn't play well in the playoffs. Maddie Johnson came out
Speaker 1: and said, Schroeder is not Laker material, lacks winning mentality
Speaker 1: and attitude. Uh, he's taking a lot of the blame
Speaker 1: from not playing well in the playoffs. He went scoreless
Speaker 1: in one game. Jack thoughts on Shrewder, his decision to
Speaker 1: turn down eighty four million and where he and the
Speaker 1: Lakers go from here. He's definitely regretting that. He's definitely
Speaker 1: regretting that. I don't think he's gonna get the hundred
Speaker 1: many million he's looking for for sure, not the Lakers.
Speaker 1: And if anybody know who belongs in the Laker for
Speaker 1: him is Magic Johnson. So you can't go against what
Speaker 1: he says when it comes to that. But he has
Speaker 1: to find his niche somewhere. I mean, uh, he didn't
Speaker 1: play well. You can't be a starting point guard on
Speaker 1: the Lakers team in the playoffs with a d down
Speaker 1: and go scoreless. I just don't know how that happens
Speaker 1: when you play those minutes and you can't get a bucket,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's frustrating to a lot
Speaker 1: of players that played the game that's watching the game,
Speaker 1: especially when you get that opportunity when you know there's
Speaker 1: other guys that can take advantage of the opportunity. So
Speaker 1: I wish him the best. Uh, he just put himself
Speaker 1: in a tough situation right now, and I don't know
Speaker 1: how it's gonna work out for I like Shrewder, you know,
Speaker 1: talking to Chris paul a lot, Chris loved them, loved them,
Speaker 1: and okay, see say he's one of the most competitive
Speaker 1: players I ever played with. Love the opportunity as a teammate.
Speaker 1: I think it kind of started as a snowball effect
Speaker 1: once he turned down that money and said he wanted
Speaker 1: a hundred. And we all know, I mean, playing in
Speaker 1: l A is so much more than actually playing basketball,
Speaker 1: you know what I I mean? When the when? When? When? When? When?
Speaker 1: The when the birds start chirping and the media starts,
Speaker 1: you know, making a big deal of you turning things
Speaker 1: down and then you you know, get hurt a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then you don't play well. It's just a snowball
Speaker 1: effective bullshit that can deter you from your actual job,
Speaker 1: which is going out there and performing. So it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see where he lands. Um. I still think
Speaker 1: he's a really good point guard. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: get paid money. I don't know if he'll get paid
Speaker 1: eighty four million. Um, I definitely don't think he'll get
Speaker 1: a hundred, but hey, you never know. But it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens with him. Um, if they
Speaker 1: aren't able to work something out with him. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's guys like Lowry out there, John Wall who's still
Speaker 1: in a contract with Houston. What are your thoughts on
Speaker 1: those two potentially becoming Lakers? Either one of them I
Speaker 1: love both of those guys, but for as far as fit,
Speaker 1: I'm going Kyle Lowry. You've got a tough minded point
Speaker 1: the tough minded point guard. He's a champion, he knows
Speaker 1: what it takes. He's gonna run that team. He's gonna
Speaker 1: do his job as a point guard. And he's a
Speaker 1: knockdown shooter. Um. I think Lowry is a is a
Speaker 1: great is a great addition for the Lakers going forward
Speaker 1: to add to that team. That's definitely what they need.
Speaker 1: I like the Lowry idea jack, but he'll be thirty
Speaker 1: six next season, and how old is this team gonna
Speaker 1: be with a thirty seven year old Lebron a thirty
Speaker 1: six year old Kyle Lowry being two of their main contributor.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that scares me. Like I said,
Speaker 1: his his his resume speaks for itself. One of the
Speaker 1: toughest mind is point guards we've ever seen. He's a champion,
Speaker 1: he's a winner, he's a leader. But do you risk
Speaker 1: having a thirty six year old point guard when you're
Speaker 1: gonna have a thirty seven year old Lebron James next
Speaker 1: to him? Knowing how much they're gonna need both of
Speaker 1: those guys to be ready to go during the playoffs,
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting to see. I like Wall,
Speaker 1: I don't think Wall is necessarily the fit they need. Um.
Speaker 1: I love his bounce back season after being out of
Speaker 1: basketball for two years to be able to come out
Speaker 1: in average you know, nineteen and seven, I think he
Speaker 1: was at He still owed a shipload of money too,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. He still has two years ninety
Speaker 1: million left on his contracts, so whether he ends up
Speaker 1: staying in Houston or not is yet to be determined.
Speaker 1: But there's definitely some point guards out there. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting to see who the Lakers go after because
Speaker 1: it has to be a unique type. Again, like I
Speaker 1: said with Boston, does this team need a playmaking point
Speaker 1: guard to take some pressure off a bron Do they
Speaker 1: need a scoring point guard that they need a guard
Speaker 1: they can do both? Um, Because I know that that
Speaker 1: window is closing over there in l A. You know,
Speaker 1: I definitely think next year they're still gonna have a
Speaker 1: great shot at winning a title, But after that, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. So this point guard decision this summer is
Speaker 1: gonna be really big for the Lakers franchise moving forward.
Speaker 1: Next up. Our favorite segment on the show than questions.
Speaker 1: Let's get started. I call you when the worst thing
Speaker 1: a vet on the squad is made you do When
Speaker 1: you were rookies, I was good man. My vest took
Speaker 1: care of me. Step On Marbre gave me a range
Speaker 1: over escalade and took me shopping. And I think what
Speaker 1: saved me was I had Kenyan Martin as as my
Speaker 1: other rookie on my team, and he was the number
Speaker 1: one pick, and they can get him to pick up
Speaker 1: water or nothing. He wasn't doing nothing because he was
Speaker 1: the number one pick, So it kind of saved me.
Speaker 1: I was in a good position as a rookie. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I had stuff on my very I'm glad
Speaker 1: I had guys like Johnny Newman and Sherman Douglas, got
Speaker 1: good vets that just wanted me to learn the rope.
Speaker 1: I don't really want to abuse me, right, uh. I
Speaker 1: had a different situation. I went to a young Clipper team,
Speaker 1: so our vets were young. They were the same age
Speaker 1: as me. I think Elton Brand was our vet, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And he was only two years
Speaker 1: older than me. So we had a real young team
Speaker 1: with the ship Hole organization at the time. We used
Speaker 1: to practice at Southwest College in the l A, which
Speaker 1: is a junior college, and we have to used to
Speaker 1: have to leave the back doors to the gym open
Speaker 1: because people would break into our cars during practice. No shower,
Speaker 1: no weight room. Donald Sterling had motherfucking some bullshit over there.
Speaker 1: But I didn't really have to do no rookie duties either.
Speaker 1: Like I said, young team, cool team, energetic team. I
Speaker 1: remember my first day on that team, no quick story.
Speaker 1: I came up on a ten day. So my literally
Speaker 1: my very first practice was Quentin Richardson and Key Undoley
Speaker 1: got in a fight like right at the beginning, and
Speaker 1: you know, Quentin's big, motherfucking bare ass was trying to
Speaker 1: then keep Katie was, you know, throwing jazz. This ship
Speaker 1: was just I was like, Okay, this is what the
Speaker 1: NBA is about, hun. So that was kind of like
Speaker 1: my welcome to the NBA moment seeing two of my
Speaker 1: teammates get into it. But besides that, I really didn't
Speaker 1: have no uh no rookie duty, so I was glad.
Speaker 1: Next fan question at Koku Puff, does the first round
Speaker 1: playoff loss almost feels more disappointing? Than not making the
Speaker 1: playoffs at all. I mean, obviously, making the playoffs is
Speaker 1: is a is a goal and accomplishment. But if you
Speaker 1: go out in the first round, basically you just wasted
Speaker 1: two more weeks. You could have been chilling. You know,
Speaker 1: you could have your season could have ended two weeks earlier.
Speaker 1: But now it's definitely not a disappointment. Um, if you
Speaker 1: get swept um, that's another story. But making the playoffs
Speaker 1: obviously is every team's goal. Winning a championship as every
Speaker 1: team's goal, So getting knocked out in the first round,
Speaker 1: you know, it's something to build on, similar to what
Speaker 1: the Knicks had this year they made the playoffs, or
Speaker 1: something to build on. So it's definitely not a disappointment. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's more frustrating than a disappointment. I totally agree with Mat.
Speaker 1: It's more frustrating disappointment getting that experience. It's always something
Speaker 1: to build on, building for the next year. You know,
Speaker 1: once you get in being like, okay, we made it
Speaker 1: to the first round. Now to see if we can
Speaker 1: get to the second round. So it's you got you
Speaker 1: have to start somewhere. A lot of teams, which say
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of players go through their
Speaker 1: career and never get a chance to taste the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So anytime you can get in, there's always a blessing.
Speaker 1: Next up, Richie underscore, if the Clippers lose to the Jazz,
Speaker 1: it's a time to blow this thing up. It's definitely
Speaker 1: time to make changes, and it definitely time to figure
Speaker 1: things out with Hard Kauai. That expectations are so high
Speaker 1: that when Louising always makes you question yourself and um,
Speaker 1: you know you have you have big men on the
Speaker 1: team that that I would that I think should be playing.
Speaker 1: You have a great roster, one of the deepest rosters
Speaker 1: in the NBA, and that you expect to win any
Speaker 1: any time you have a team where you have great
Speaker 1: players like Paul Georges Kauai side by side, you expect
Speaker 1: big things and anything less. It's uncivilized. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's time to blow up if you think about it,
Speaker 1: to close this season, if they don't win. If they
Speaker 1: do win, it's only been two years with this team,
Speaker 1: and you know it takes three four years to really
Speaker 1: build a team. I think in l A it's like
Speaker 1: dog years though. I mean everything is always the mast forward.
Speaker 1: They want they want everything now, now, now and now.
Speaker 1: Although I think they have a great chance to climb
Speaker 1: out of this hole and come out of this series ahead,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's time. Um. You know, sometimes it's
Speaker 1: tough for a coach to have so much talent to
Speaker 1: figure out who's supposed to play, win, and figure out
Speaker 1: what the rotations are. I think that's something that t
Speaker 1: louis kind of trying to balance out now in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: which is tough. You should kind of already have this set.
Speaker 1: But he's been doing a good job I think of making,
Speaker 1: you know, putting sitting people down, putting people in the game.
Speaker 1: We both would like to see Big Book you play more.
Speaker 1: He showed two great flashes in his brief minutes playing
Speaker 1: in this series, so I wonder why he's not playing more.
Speaker 1: But obviously they have their reasons. But to answer the question,
Speaker 1: it's only been two years, you know, and I don't
Speaker 1: think anything should be blown off after two years. Obviously
Speaker 1: high expectations with two superstars on your team, but all
Speaker 1: it's more than superstar. It's chemistry and really understanding each other.
Speaker 1: And now if this happens again next year, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: if if they don't show improve next year. Then I
Speaker 1: think it's really time to start thinking, Okay, do we
Speaker 1: need to go a different direction. But whether they, you know,
Speaker 1: lose this series or they will come out of this series,
Speaker 1: this team just needs time and and unfortunately, being in
Speaker 1: l A, you don't have much of it. Next fan
Speaker 1: question at Bacca Jr. Do the Signs have what it
Speaker 1: takes to win it all this year? Matt at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the playoffs, I would have said no, but
Speaker 1: I say yeah. Now, um, you know, they're the hottest
Speaker 1: team in the playoffs. They've they've taken the Lakers down,
Speaker 1: they swept the m v P. They're sitting resting, you know,
Speaker 1: waiting for to see who they're gonna play the next round.
Speaker 1: To me, it's wide open. It's very well. They're a
Speaker 1: young team and outside of their two stars, they don't
Speaker 1: have you know, eighting is an up and coming star,
Speaker 1: they don't really have that firepower that people would think
Speaker 1: you need to win a championship. But again, like I
Speaker 1: said earlier in the show, it's about getting hot at
Speaker 1: the right time, and this is the hottest team in
Speaker 1: the playoffs right now, with the best leader in the game,
Speaker 1: and anything that's possible with this team, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say yes. I'm gonna say yes, they have what it
Speaker 1: takes to win the finals. I definitely think they have
Speaker 1: what it takes, but I think also think it also
Speaker 1: matters who they play. The Clippers are a team that
Speaker 1: switch everything, so the pic a role won't be as
Speaker 1: effective because the Clippers that as it will against Utah
Speaker 1: any other team. So it depends on matchups to me.
Speaker 1: Next question, underscore E Carrillo underscore. Growing up, we all
Speaker 1: have teams that we root for. How did the love
Speaker 1: for that team change once you guys got to the league.
Speaker 1: After and after you're retired, are there still teams you
Speaker 1: solely root for? Are you guys just a fan of
Speaker 1: the league as a hole? Now? Good question. I'm a
Speaker 1: fan of players growing up. I grew up next to Houston,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't a Rockets fan. My favorite players with
Speaker 1: Scottie pipp and Grand Hill, those type of guys, so
Speaker 1: I really didn't have a team. I've always been a
Speaker 1: fan of players and today I'm the same way. Even
Speaker 1: with playing in the NBA. No team was loyal to me,
Speaker 1: so I'm not giving them my lawd to either. So uh,
Speaker 1: if I feel like I'm a part of any family
Speaker 1: in the organization. I'm a Warrior for life. Uh, the
Speaker 1: war is the only team that still treat me like family.
Speaker 1: The Warriors is the only team that continue to bring
Speaker 1: us back and show they appreciate what we've done by
Speaker 1: the time we was there. So even though I'm a
Speaker 1: Warrior for life, I'm a fan of a lot of
Speaker 1: players on different teams. Yeah, definitely shout out the Warriors.
Speaker 1: Um My, I grew up a showtime Mattic Johnson Laker fans,
Speaker 1: so I've always been a Laker fan. It was probably
Speaker 1: one of the biggest honors of my life being able
Speaker 1: to put that Laker uniform on. So my loyalty or
Speaker 1: who I cheer for are the Lakers, Clippers, and Warriors.
Speaker 1: And then outside of that, I cheer for players. But
Speaker 1: you know, each of those teams have a special place
Speaker 1: in my heart. Um, you know, for for for what
Speaker 1: I went through with them. But outside of that, you know,
Speaker 1: I root for players. But those are the three teams
Speaker 1: that that I root for, Uh, every season. Next fan question,
Speaker 1: the King Joe. If you guys gotta offered an assistant
Speaker 1: coaching job in the NBA, would you guys take it
Speaker 1: and what role would you play and if not, why
Speaker 1: I would respectfully decline. Um, just that NBA grind and
Speaker 1: travel is is behind me now, and that's as a
Speaker 1: player at the end of my career was which was
Speaker 1: the worst part about it was always having to travel
Speaker 1: and always having to be gone. Like I've been happy
Speaker 1: with my retirement, uh, being able to spend more time
Speaker 1: with my kids and really do stuff outside of basketball.
Speaker 1: So although um, it could be a dream job for
Speaker 1: some and a tremendous opportunity, UM, I'd pass. I'd rather
Speaker 1: coach my kids in au and and spend more time
Speaker 1: with them. I would love to Uh. I actually talked
Speaker 1: to Mike Brown if you ever get a coaching job
Speaker 1: that I would love to actually talk to Sam pa
Speaker 1: Cell and Chauncey Billips if they all I would love
Speaker 1: to be assistant coach. I love the game. I love
Speaker 1: to be around the game, and especially now, I think
Speaker 1: I really might get the opportunity. The fact that I'm
Speaker 1: smoking no more. I think me smoking in the way
Speaker 1: I was doing things kept me away from getting a
Speaker 1: coaching job or getting an opportunity to workout coaching job.
Speaker 1: But I would love to Matt honestly would closing thoughts,
Speaker 1: We got a big matchup this weekend with undefeated former
Speaker 1: All the Smoke guests w c BC middleweight Jamal Charlo.
Speaker 1: Will be entering the ring on June tent in Houston, Texas. Jack,
Speaker 1: you'll be at the fight, tells who will be fighting,
Speaker 1: where you'll be sitting, and what you're gonna be wearing. Well,
Speaker 1: hopefully I'll be there in the ring. I don't know
Speaker 1: what I'm wearing yet, but he's fighting a hard hit
Speaker 1: and one m says my tail, and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a good fight. Man. Right there in Houston. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. This whole city is gonna come out.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see a lot of old friends.
Speaker 1: But we gotta support our guy. He's been on the
Speaker 1: show and you gotta check out the episode. We had
Speaker 1: the Charlot brothers on here because it was straight comedy,
Speaker 1: bro straight the way they talk ship and bounce off
Speaker 1: each other, and it reminded me of my twins, always
Speaker 1: at each other's next, always challenging that. I loved it.
Speaker 1: Great episode, by the way, We're definitely gonna be supporting.
Speaker 1: I'll be out here in l a watching it from
Speaker 1: the crib. And then also we got Javonte Davis uh
Speaker 1: fighting in two weeks out in Atlanta, which will be
Speaker 1: at two another all the Smoke Alum. So we've got
Speaker 1: some good fights coming up the next two weeks. Make
Speaker 1: sure you guys check these out. Showtime Boxing What's Burning
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