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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? How are we doing? What

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Speaker 1: Woke up to craziness. DeVante Adams traded. I guess that

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Speaker 1: in pretty good shape when I look at your schedule.

429
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 1: So I think I put those three teams in, and

430
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: to me, San Francisco a couple freak losses. They should

431
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: be five and one, but they lost the games, and

432
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: then you watch them last week against Seattle, It's like, okay,

433
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: can you guys get your shit together now? I'm not

434
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 1: putting them in quite yet, but you play the Chiefs

435
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: at home, like it's kind of time to get the

436
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: monkey off your back. I think the outhouse the NFC.

437
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 1: To me, it's just Carolina, and honestly, they have been

438
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: much more competitive with Andy Dalton. So you look at

439
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: most of the NFC teams, even the bad ones, like

440
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: the Giants, they're not that bad, Like the Cardinals can't

441
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: get worked as they just did against Green Bay, but

442
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: they also can look really good. The Rams like they're

443
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: not an outhouse team that they're a team with a

444
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: million injuries. We know when they're healthy, they're pretty solid.

445
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 1: So I actually think the NFC top to bottom is

446
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: better than the AFC because there are some teams in

447
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: the AFC that are terrible. I mean, the Jags could

448
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: get lose by twenty points to literally anybody. Their defense

449
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: is atrocious, their offense is all out of whack. The

450
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: Patriots are even worse than the Jags. They're god awful.

451
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: And I know he threw some touchdowns in the second

452
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: half and it was cool, and if I'm a Patriot,

453
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: I'm not putting it in context. Well, it's like second

454
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: half or getting who cares. Just give me a couple

455
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: of touchdowns on a weekly basis, keep losing, give us

456
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: a high pick and we trade it for hopefully a

457
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: haul and we try to build around Drake May. And

458
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: then the Browns, I mean, it's pretty clear that they're

459
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: gonna roll with Deshaun Watson because of the money, and

460
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: they're gonna continue to suck because when you cannot score

461
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: on offense, I don't care one. Their defense clearly isn't

462
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: as good as last year, but even if it is good,

463
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: you can't hold serve every single game. Eventually a crack one.

464
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: You get worn out because your offense is so quick

465
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: to get off the field. Deshaun I thought that was

466
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: actually one of his better games. Made some big completions

467
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: on third down, but overall, like all the stats speak

468
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: for themselves, he's just an atrocious player. He runs into

469
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 1: a bunch of sacks. I can't even imagine the amount

470
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: of guys they're gonna start turning on him, and not

471
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: even because they personally hate the guy, but but they're injured,

472
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: they're playing their ass off, they're solid players, and you

473
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: got this guy who should be benched and it's not

474
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: being benched. And I think it shows the Browns know

475
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: they suck and they're just gonna go down with the ship.

476
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 1: Trading to Maury Cooper today is a good example of that.

477
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: So I feel for you Browns fans because it's I

478
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: think the years got a long way to go. A

479
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: lot more bad football, you know, coming down the train tracks. Okay,

480
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: let's do a little cough on campus. I love college football.

481
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: After the red River game, just sweaty and just disgusting,

482
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: I was like, let's just go to a bar, eat

483
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: a little dinner. Watch the second half of the Oregon

484
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: Ohio State game. The Texas or the Tennessee Florida game.

485
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: What other game was going ole Miss LSU. There was

486
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: a lot of good college football action. So we went

487
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: to this place called Katie Trail, which was just a

488
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: badass bar, had really good barbecue food. I think it's

489
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: in Uptown Dallas, probably ten minutes away from where we

490
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: were staying, and it was really cool, and there's there's

491
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: nothing like that college atmosphere that that was on full

492
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: display at the game I was at. Obviously, Oklahoma's not

493
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: very good, but Texas really is their team. Watching them live,

494
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: one where they warmed up was we were pretty close.

495
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: The size of some of their linemen was pretty eye opening. Obviously,

496
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: their offensive line is really good. They have some serious

497
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: difference makers on the defensive front and linebacker. They have

498
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: multiple wide receivers who are clearly NFL guys. Their running

499
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: back is a stud. My only question for them is quarterback,

500
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: and the good thing for them is, like every contender

501
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: has a question mark at quarterback. Will Howard actually played

502
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: pretty good against Oregon, so if he's going to play

503
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: like that, they definitely can win the National championship. But

504
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: you know, Oregon, Dylan Gabriel solid player, but I don't

505
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: think there's much of a difference between quinn u ors

506
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: and all though it's not like one team has you know,

507
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: the equivalent of like what Baker Mayfield was in college,

508
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: or or you know, something like super super high end.

509
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: I don't think when yours, in my opinion, is a

510
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: high pick, but things can change if he plays well.

511
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: I'd be hard pressed to see Texas losing a game

512
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: just because now it's like I've seen Ohio State live,

513
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: but that sure looked like a national championship team to me.

514
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: It's just comes down at the quarterback, who was clearly

515
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: a little rus rusty coming off an injury through a

516
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: bad interception. To me, he's just a little hit or

517
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: miss throwing down the field. But the great part with

518
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: the talent they have is like you can throw like

519
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, jail break screens and guys can take it

520
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: forty You can just run the ball and a dude

521
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: can take it fifty yards. I mean, they just got

522
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: game changing players. And the thing with Sark is, like

523
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: we've known for a while, he's good on an offense,

524
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: he can really score points. It was defense. Their defense

525
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: was just really shitty. Well defense good, They average under

526
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: allowing under ten points a game, like their defense is

527
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: top notch. So I was blown away. And if I'm

528
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: a Texas fan like Ohio State fan and I think

529
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: now you're Oregon fan, I think anything less than being

530
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: in the National Championship game would feel like a disappointment.

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00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: It really would, definitely for Ohio State. In Texas, you

532
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: could probably like if Oregon were to lose to Ohio

533
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: State in the Big Ten Championship and win a playoff

534
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: game and get to the final four, like lose to

535
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: Texas in a barn burner, it'd be a pretty fun year.

536
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna act like that would be a

537
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: huge letdown. It would suck at the time. But I

538
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: think anything less than a natty for Texas in Ohio State,

539
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: which I would imagine most people would put in the

540
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: National Championship game right now, we'll just feel like a disappointment.

541
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: And you know, this weekend you get Georgia at Texas.

542
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 1: I would expect Texas to win this game by ten

543
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: plus points. I just don't think George is that good

544
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: and this place is gonna be going bananas in Austin,

545
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: So I think George is in major, major trouble and

546
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: the other game is Bama at Tennessee. And you know

547
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: three weeks ago? Was it three weeks ago? It was

548
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: two weeks ago? Did Bama lost to Vandy and Tennessee

549
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: lost to Arkansas? Now I think Arkansas is better than Vandy.

550
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: Now it turns out Vandy might actually be pretty solid.

551
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: But I have a hard time, like I couldn't like,

552
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: I understand losing to Vandy and then losing. I didn't lose,

553
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: but I was. I got such bad service at the

554
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl. I couldn't even I couldn't even get my

555
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: ESPN APT to work to see the score. So I

556
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: didn't know what happened in that Bama South Carolina game

557
00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: until we got to the bar. But obviously I liked

558
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: them a lot in a bounce back spot. But I'm

559
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: very nervous with this transfer portal, Like this isn't twenty

560
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: seventeen where these great teams after an awful loss come

561
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: back and kick ass. So I don't know, I mean

562
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: to me, it is a coin flip game. It's weird

563
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: though that Georgia, who Bama beat Georgia like we saw

564
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: them play? So then you lose the Vanderbilt and Georgia

565
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: jumps you in the rankings. I don't quite understand that one.

566
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: If you tell me Bama had lost South Carolina, I

567
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: would understand putting them above there. But they played And

568
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: whenever I hear people say like it shouldn't there's more

569
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: to it than just head to head. No, we literally

570
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: fucking saw them on the same field playing each other.

571
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: That's the whole point of the sport. I play you

572
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: who wins, right, like who's better? It's like who's better

573
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: at tennis? Well, we both grab rackets, we go to

574
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: the tennis court, we play the game. Someone wins, You're

575
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: better than me right on that given day. Now you

576
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: can say over the course of the season, well, we've

577
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: only had two weeks since, so if you tell me,

578
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: over like an eight week span, Bama consistently looks as bad. Okay,

579
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: But like what happens if Bama wins this game and

580
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: Georgia wins this game, you'd be like, Okay, incredible win

581
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: at Texas, pretty good to win in Tennessee too, And

582
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: I would imagine in the polls, like would Georgia still

583
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: be above Bama? Kind of confuses me. Dan Lanning basically

584
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: confirmed that they put the twelve men on the field

585
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: on purpose at the end of the game to take

586
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: away the big play run off some time, which inevitably

587
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: led to Howard just pulling a Dak Prescott and sliding

588
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: with no time left in the middle of the football field.

589
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: Pretty big moment for Dan Lanning, like that that game

590
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: was gonna be I gotta go back because I miss

591
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: so much of it in transit and you're at a bar,

592
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: you can't really lock in. There's like ten games going

593
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: on at one time. Actually might do that this afternoon,

594
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: just throw it up on YouTube, see if they have

595
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: like a condensed version. Is whoever was gonna win that game?

596
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: It was gonna be a huge moment for their career,

597
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: right It's not the end all be all, And so

598
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: many people are like everyone, get off Ryan Day. Look

599
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: at his record. Okay, he beats the crap out of

600
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: a lot of bad teams, Like the majority of teams

601
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: he plays are just not very good. Like the beating

602
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 1: the Wisconsins and the Purdues and the Minnesotas. You get

603
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: no credit for that. Beating. Penn State recently honestly hasn't

604
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: been that impressive either. Their offense is putrid. Now if

605
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: you beat Penn State this year. I'll tip my hat

606
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 1: to you. They're clearly a lot better. But I've seen

607
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: you play Michigan in the last several years. Yeah, Kurbstone,

608
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: and the record in these games against highly ranked opponents

609
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: is not great. And you can tell me what he's

610
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: doing the right things. No one's disputing he doesn't have

611
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: a good team, like he's full of NFL players, But

612
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: the whole point of playing the big games is like

613
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: and you win them. So it's like, yeah, Debor fucked

614
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: up against Vandy, No one can argue that. But he

615
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: also played Kirby the week before and was up twenty

616
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: eight to nothing and found a way in a craziness

617
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: in the way the second half to win the game. Like,

618
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: that's that's the goal here. Dan Lanning, like Ryan Day,

619
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: hadn't won that many big games either, Right. He lost

620
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: to Washington three times. He lost to him twice in

621
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: the regular season, once in the Pac twelve championship. So

622
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: that was a big moment for him, And that was

623
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: a coin flip game and he found a way to

624
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: win it. But I said this to Colin. We talked

625
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: so much about this, and football coaches love doing this

626
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: it's about the process, the process, the process, Well, yeah,

627
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: what's your result? Like I'm interested in Saban's process or

628
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: Andy Reid's process, why because it results in wins? Like

629
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: Ryan Day's process, Well yeah, it's process against Purdue or

630
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: Minnesota have way better players and beat the shit out

631
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: of them. What happens when you play Michigan or Oregon?

632
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: You be like, what's on the road. I get it.

633
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: I'm not acting like it's an easy place to play,

634
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: but like, are you gonna win one of these? Because everyone,

635
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 1: I think any defender of Ryan Day would say, yeah,

636
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: inevitably he will. Well maybe obviously he'll beat Michigan this year.

637
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: Thumbs up there, buddy, that's gonna be a tough one.

638
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: I just think that, you know, in these big moments

639
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: like Dan Lanning throw a curveball in that game that

640
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: like a Ryan Day and Chip Kelly throwing that. Like

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Speaker 1: I saw their moment two offensive guys and their quarterback

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Speaker 1: fucking fell on the field. Was zero seconds left, Like

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Speaker 1: that happened. Meanwhile, Dan Lanning, defensive guy is doing like

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Speaker 1: Belichick Vabel moves out, scheming you, out thinking you. So

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Speaker 1: like that was a huge moment for one of those

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Speaker 1: two guys, and it was turned out to be Dan Lanning,

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Speaker 1: not Ryan Day, and no one, and I mean no

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Speaker 1: one has more defenders than Ryan Day. It's crazy. A

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Speaker 1: couple other things, the Boys sake running back Austin Genty,

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna win the Heisman. He could run for

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Speaker 1: seventh out the Heisman Committee, they wouldn't give the trophy

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Speaker 1: to someone at a school like Boise State. They would

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Speaker 1: cancel the trophy. He might be the best player in

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Speaker 1: college football pound for pound, he has no chance to

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Speaker 1: win it. He really doesn't. And you could argue that's sad.

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Speaker 1: It's reflective of like, what's the whole point of this

657
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Speaker 1: if we're not giving you to the best player? Travis

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Speaker 1: Hunter even to get it at Colorado basically had to

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Speaker 1: play ninety snaps a game. Boisse Sak guy's not getting it,

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Speaker 1: which to me, I agree with anyone listening like it's

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Speaker 1: kind of stupid, but they're they're not doing that. And

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Speaker 1: last but not least, Cam Rising, I was watching on

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Speaker 1: what was it Friday night at the hotel we got

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Speaker 1: into Dallas and we're just gonna go to bed early,

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Speaker 1: and I was watching some of the utiers on a

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Speaker 1: State game, and that was that, you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: legendary postgame interview of Kenny Dillingham, the Arizona State coach

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Speaker 1: who gets a huge upset Arizona State's actually not bad

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Speaker 1: at all this year. He's being interviewed on the field

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Speaker 1: and just you know, he's in Arizona State alumni. He

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Speaker 1: didn't play there, he was just a student, and he

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Speaker 1: starts jumping up and down with all the students and

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Speaker 1: then he just disappears into the night. It was an

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Speaker 1: incredible moment. It was also I fell asleep before like

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, but in the first half. At one

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Speaker 1: point in time, I remember Utah was on, you know,

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Speaker 1: on offense, and they flashed Rising's numbers. He was like

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Speaker 1: two for nine with a pick. He looked atrocious. I

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Speaker 1: mean it was crazy. Now, Utah's backup quarterback who's also

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Speaker 1: started games when Rising was out. I think his first

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Speaker 1: name is Isaac, but it's Zach Wilson's brother. He kind

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Speaker 1: of looks like him. He wears the karate kid thing

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Speaker 1: on his head. We called Zach Wilson the karate kid.

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Speaker 1: That's what Maria called him. So I just give his

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Speaker 1: whole family because they all rock that kind of the

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Speaker 1: bandana and who's not very good either or definitely wasn't

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Speaker 1: good in his previous starts. That's a little different when

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Speaker 1: you're coming off the bench. But I saw today the

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Speaker 1: headline that Cam Rising, technically he has a season ending injury,

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Speaker 1: could come back for an eighth year. If I'm Kyle Whittingham,

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Speaker 1: if I just got good quarterback play this year, I'm

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Speaker 1: probably undefeated. Like I'm a really good team. Cam Rising

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Speaker 1: cannot stay healthy. Under no circumstances can I allow him

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Speaker 1: to do whatever it would be considered the Red Shirts.

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Speaker 1: It's over, Like, hey man, we appreciate everything you've done.

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Speaker 1: If it wasn't for the injuries, you would have been

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Speaker 1: one of the better quarterbacks here in the history of

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Speaker 1: the program. But this thing's over. Honestly, the couple drives

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Speaker 1: I saw before I fell asleep, the thing that kept

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Speaker 1: I thought it was borderline insane that they left him

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Speaker 1: in the game for like you have no It looked

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Speaker 1: like me out there, you were just not gonna beat

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Speaker 1: this team who clearly is in some shitty pushover anymore.

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Speaker 1: And they lost and Arizona State rushed the field. Pretty

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Speaker 1: cool moment, Okay, Middlecoff Mailbag time at John Middlecoff Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Fire in those dms, get your question answered here on

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Speaker 1: the show, we will start with Douglas. This question is

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Speaker 1: for the mail bag. As a lifelong Colts fan, I

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Speaker 1: find myself more and more confused by Chris Ballard. While

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Speaker 1: there are times he hits home runs on some late

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Speaker 1: round picks, it's also true that we haven't won our

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Speaker 1: division in years and have been a middle of the

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Speaker 1: road team. If the Colts missed the playoffs again this year,

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Speaker 1: is it time to move on? That's a good question. Listen.

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Speaker 1: Most people I know like Chris Ballard. I think he's

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Speaker 1: pretty solid. I was reading some article today when I

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Speaker 1: was eating a sandwich at lunch. It was on the Athletic.

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Speaker 1: It might have been Mike Sando's kind of breakdown. Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richardson has missed fifteen of the possible twenty three games

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Speaker 1: of his career. Of all the things that happened, Listen,

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Speaker 1: they tried to patch work the quarterback position for years.

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Speaker 1: It didn't work. I commend them for taking a big swing,

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Speaker 1: but it's been kind of a disaster. Not even that

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Speaker 1: his erratic play this year, but he doesn't play in games.

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Speaker 1: I mean, thank God for Joe Flacam. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: I think hiring change Stikeen, you're gonna fire Ballard? You're not,

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Speaker 1: because you wouldn't fire Stiking and then bring in a GM.

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Speaker 1: Does he get to hire the guy? How would that work?

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Speaker 1: I think he just kind of ride it out with

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Speaker 1: these two guys for a couple of years. I hear

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Speaker 1: what you're saying, though, It's gotta be frustrating because he's

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Speaker 1: He's definitely well liked in the media, so he has

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Speaker 1: a lot of support, but eventually either win or lose games.

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Speaker 1: And the Anthony Richard when I saw that stat, I

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Speaker 1: mean it makes sense, right, he only played in a

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Speaker 1: couple of games last year, shoulder out for the year

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Speaker 1: this year, I mean, gets hurt early on has just

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Speaker 1: been mia now for three weeks. That could be the

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Speaker 1: downfall now, luckily, like what if you just start Flacco? Like,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, are they better her off rolling with

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Speaker 1: Flacco this year and just not putting Richardson back in

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Speaker 1: and trying to win nine ten games? Like? Are they more?

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Speaker 1: Are there chances better to win ten games? If Joe

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Speaker 1: Flacco starts the rest of the season or Anthony Rigson.

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Speaker 1: It feels like Flacco because he's just a better player.

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Speaker 1: I watched last night. I was cleaning up the kitchen,

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Speaker 1: No big deal. That's what I do mainly because I

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Speaker 1: don't cook that often, so she cookes, I clean and

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Speaker 1: I sometimes put on a podcast or something. She goes

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Speaker 1: in the other room and just go to town clean away.

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Speaker 1: And I saw on YouTube they just had like the

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Speaker 1: cut up version of Flaco with McAfee, so I listened

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Speaker 1: to it because Flaco's a good interview. And they asked

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Speaker 1: him basically like are you playing the best football of

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Speaker 1: your career? And he was torn because he's like, well,

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Speaker 1: we played so much different in Baltimore. You know. I

757
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Speaker 1: was asked to play like I have been the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years, and they've let me throw it in

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Speaker 1: bombs away where they didn't let me do that last year.

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Speaker 1: But he's just he's a pretty solid player. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's no way around it. Richson has moments, but like

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Speaker 1: he also just can turn the ball over at rapid

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Speaker 1: rates and have incompletions that kill you. So I get

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Speaker 1: because they've invested so much, they're going to go back

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Speaker 1: to them, but that could cost some games and cost

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Speaker 1: them to the playoffs, And like you said, how many

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Speaker 1: years can you go on and just not have this

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Speaker 1: situation play out with more wins? Mail back question, who's

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Speaker 1: more worthless to their team, Sirianni to the Eagles or

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Speaker 1: Patricia on Belichick's podcast, Well, Sirianni does lead team meetings,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I'm sure has one on one individual

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Speaker 1: meetings with players and coaches and leads coaching meetings throughout

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Speaker 1: the week. Like he's clearly doing things. Patricia. I clicked

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Speaker 1: this morning after DeVante was traded. It came up on

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Speaker 1: my YouTube algorithm that Belichick, Lombardi and his thing were

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Speaker 1: like they gave opinions on DeVante Adams. Now, I actually

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Speaker 1: think they just ran this before the trade even happened,

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Speaker 1: because they had kind of gotten win that it would happen,

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Speaker 1: so they just kind of went over it. So I

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Speaker 1: watched like fifteen minutes of it, and every time Patricia

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Speaker 1: talked one he talks. You know, It's crazy, Like I get,

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Speaker 1: if you're not gonna say anything controversial, if you don't

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Speaker 1: want to piss anyone off, that's fine. You want to

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Speaker 1: get back in the league, But then you gotta have

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Speaker 1: some curveballs that aren't just a cliche machine. I've never

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Speaker 1: seen a guy who's worked in the NFL longer who

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Speaker 1: brings nothing to the table, who is not working in

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Speaker 1: the NFL anymore and is now talking for a living.

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Speaker 4: Belichick was taking some shots of the Jets and Patricia

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Speaker 4: just says nothing. He's like, yeah, Ad and DeVante's trying

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Speaker 4: to win, just trying to make plays and then try

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Speaker 4: to win some more. It's crazy, It's insane.

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Speaker 1: Like I also thought if Sirianni's fired at the you know,

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Speaker 1: at the end of the year, and Belichick goes to

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Speaker 1: the Eagles, would obviously Patricia's doing this to go back

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Speaker 1: with Belichick wherever he goes. But could he bring him

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Speaker 1: back to the Eagles where he was terrible as a

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. I don't know the details of how you

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Speaker 1: know it ended there personally, like with him and Howie

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Speaker 1: and Lurie obviously didn't end well. But that's something to

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on. One for the mailbag. All the

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Speaker 1: way from sunny South Africa. You know, I've always wanted

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Speaker 1: to go to South Africa. It's thinking, is that a

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Speaker 1: good spot for a honeymoon? Long flight? I know that

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Speaker 1: maybe not Honeymoon, but definitely a travel destination sometime in

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Speaker 1: the next five ten years. I wanted to send it

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Speaker 1: a message for a long time, but I didn't have

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Speaker 1: an Instagram, not much into social media. I'm jealous, but

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Speaker 1: downloaded today just so I could send this message. So

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Speaker 1: my question is this, do you think the NFL will

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Speaker 1: ever play a game in South Africa? We have a

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Speaker 1: huge NFL fan base, and I would sell a kidney

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Speaker 1: and liver to watch my Niners or at any moment,

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Speaker 1: any NFL game here. I don't think you'd actually do that,

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Speaker 1: but I like your passion. I would say the chances

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Speaker 1: would be slim because of the travel. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: it's a really long flight, and for the forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers flying all the way from the West coast adds

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Speaker 1: an extra five hours. I know I've had friends that

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Speaker 1: have gone to South Africa and don't quote me on this,

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Speaker 1: but isn't the flight I think from the West coast

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Speaker 1: like eighteen hours? I mean, it's really really long. I

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Speaker 1: just don't think the NFL is going to ask their

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Speaker 1: people to do that, you know, I think Brazil was

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Speaker 1: pushing it at like, what was it like eight for

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. Seven for the Eagles. That's a long flight.

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Speaker 1: You know. The one thing nice about going to London

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Speaker 1: is when the Jags play the Pats, and you're talking

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Speaker 1: five hour flights. So it's no different than the Pats

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Speaker 1: coming to play the Chargers or the Jags coming to

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Speaker 1: play Seattle. So I think the logistics of the travel

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Speaker 1: make that pretty difficult question for the bag. When I

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Speaker 1: watched the Jags players on the sideline, to me, they

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Speaker 1: come across as the ultimate collect a paycheck and chill team.

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Speaker 1: If you watch Trevor's demeanor, it's not different from a

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Speaker 1: regular NFL game than from a Pro Bowl. There's a

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Speaker 1: noticeable awshucks, it's all good, we get them next time

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00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: type vibe, so it's no surprise the team takes that

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Speaker 1: attitude from him. On the other hand, when you watch

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Speaker 1: players like Mahomes, even if they're behind just three points

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Speaker 1: in a meaningless Week four game, he's out there rallying

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Speaker 1: the troops NonStop. We are not losing this game over

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Speaker 1: my dead body. The intensity and competitive drive is just

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Speaker 1: off the charts. Even a young player like CJ was

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Speaker 1: out there this weekend shoving tablets in his Lineman's faces

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Speaker 1: to show where they could do better, and that's when

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Speaker 1: they were ahead by multiple touchdowns. Is it really possible

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Speaker 1: that a generational prospect like Trevor Lawrence has that little

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Speaker 1: passion for pro football. I went back this week to

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Speaker 1: that pre draft article from Sports Illustrated. Here's what it said.

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00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: He's he's not a war driven. He's not I want

852
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl at all costs. His father said,

853
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: with who he is as a person, he could walk

854
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: away from the game tomorrow and be just fine. Looking back,

855
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: those words sound ominous. That's tough. With who he is

856
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: as a person, he could walk away from it tomorrow

857
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: and be fine. Can you imagine saying that about Peyton Manning,

858
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, and Josh Allen.

859
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: I don't think his failure is because he doesn't quote

860
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: unquote love football. I think looking back, he was kind

861
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: of an overhyped prospect. But I think when you go

862
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: through adversity and you don't love what you're doing, it's

863
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: easy to take the easy route and not try hard.

864
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: It's why I always recommend to young people, because as

865
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: you get older, it is more difficult to change careers

866
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: because of family dynamics and kids and bills. That is hard.

867
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you can't, but it is. It's becomes more

868
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: difficult the older you get. When you're young, the number

869
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: one advice I always give anyone is to go into business,

870
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: whatever you're going to do, with something you really really like,

871
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: and be willing to not make much money at the

872
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: beginning and bypass money in other industries that are more

873
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: of a quick buck because over time everything becomes a job,

874
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: and when you enjoy what you're doing, you will be

875
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: that much more willing to work hard. I would say

876
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: most of the hardest workers I've ever met are the

877
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: people that own their business. Why because they take complete

878
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: ownership in that it's theirs. It's why you can ever

879
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: asked like an employee to work as hard as you

880
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: if you own the If you own it, and I

881
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: think from an ownership standpoint, it feels like, yeah, I'm

882
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: just along for the ride. I just can't get over

883
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: them giving him two hundred million dollars based off his

884
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: first couple of years in the league. That was insane.

885
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: I get he's a good guy and likable, but I've

886
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: said this forever about the NFL. It was a great

887
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: experience for me. But one thing I knew, like I

888
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: could never be a GM because deep down in my soul,

889
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't love football enough. Like I was around a

890
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: lot of people and I saw like their love for

891
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: football just trumped mine. I think it's pretty clear, Like

892
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 1: I like football a lot, right, But being around Bret Veach,

893
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: being around you know, Howie Roseman, Andy Reid, even Lewis Riddick,

894
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: like those guys are so much more in the depths

895
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: of the nerdiness of football which you have to have,

896
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: which all these guys have. I mean you go around

897
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: all the GMS. I mean they're just they're football obsessed.

898
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: It's their life and it's a huge part of my life.

899
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: But it's not as big like to work in it

900
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: and be great at it. And I would say this

901
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: just in general in sports, like you know, go around

902
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: pat Riley whoever. Right, it's it's you got to be

903
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: addicted to it. And that's for a player, coach, or

904
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: an executive. In Trevor Lawrence, he told us before he

905
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: even came in the league, like, hey, guys, I'm not

906
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: gonna be addicted to this. This is not gonna be.

907
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: You know who's addicted Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Jim Harball,

908
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, John Harball, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh. I think

909
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: all the best guys in the league, Uh, the Watt family,

910
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: TJ and JJ. Right. Let mean you just go around

911
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: the league to the best players. You're like, God, these

912
00:53:54,920 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: guys fucking love football. Love football. Fred Warner, George Kittle, Like,

913
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't the moment you start not giving

914
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: every ounce of your energy and focus and mind and

915
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: body to this sport. You know, as a player you

916
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: have to give your body as well as a coach

917
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: or an exec. It's just all your energy. You get laughed,

918
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: and I think you see a guy who's just getting laughed. Like, listen,

919
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: the reason John Dorsey took Baker Mayfield number one was

920
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: like the intangible competitiveness. Obviously he didn't he wasn't the biggest,

921
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the best arm of all time, he

922
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: wasn't the fastest, and over time, like Baker could have

923
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: been washed out of the league. You know what, that guy,

924
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: that guy fucking likes playing football. That guy really likes

925
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: playing football. It showed at Oklahoma. It showed for spurts

926
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, but Cleveland needs people alive. Then he gets

927
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: traded to Carolina, like not a great place. Remember the

928
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: joy he had that night with Sean McVay in LA

929
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: And then when he's done the last couple of years.

930
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: So I just don't And just because you love it

931
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're good enough. But if you have the

932
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: talent and you love it, like, it's really hard if

933
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: you get in the right situation because some of it's

934
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: out of your control, like who's your offensive coordinator or

935
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: your teammates, who's your organization, But if you get to

936
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: a decent spot, a good spot, it's hard to fail, man,

937
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: it really is. I say this all the time, like

938
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: it's why I defend perty, why he's not gonna go away.

939
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: The intangible, the competitiveness, The dude's an addict. Dude's an addict,

940
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: and if you're not, you don't have a shot. I

941
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: say this all the time. I feel like I just

942
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: reiterate this too much. But during draft time, when we're

943
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: discussing these prospects, the media is obsessed, like, let him

944
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: have a balance life, which listen, if you want to

945
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: have some balance at wide receiver whatever. When we talk quarterback,

946
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: I can't have balance. Obviously as you get older you

947
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: can have a wife and a family and stuff. But

948
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about like you better say, it's like

949
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: football is my life beside my family, because it is

950
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: for all the best players, especially in my adult life.

951
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: And honestly, it's not even like it's not even debatable.

952
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: So if you want to have like seven other things

953
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: going on, like I'll bet against you, or if you

954
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: don't love football, like as a ten out of ten,

955
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: it's not like I like football. I enjoy playing on

956
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: game day. No, you got to be addicted to the

957
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: stuff Monday through Saturday. Tom and Peyton are just junkies

958
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: over that. I remember talking to Beach at the was

959
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: it this combine or might have been a couple of

960
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: combines ago. Maybe I was textan with him years ago.

961
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: Remember when Mahomes rolled his ankle in the playoff game

962
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: might have been against the Jags, and I think he

963
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: ended up playing the next week too. But I remember

964
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: Veach saying that he got to the office the next

965
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: day at like six am. Might have been after the

966
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Maybe this was to go to the Super

967
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: Bowl maybe I was talking to him about the Miami

968
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, So this would have been when they first

969
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: played the Niners way back, you know, five years ago,

970
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: and he gets to the office because you just, you know,

971
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: it's a lot going on Super Bowl. You just kind

972
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: of got to get your bearings on that Monday morning,

973
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: even though you got two weeks and he's like, I

974
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: walked into the training room to like grab a gatorade

975
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: and Patrick was just in there, just you know, getting

976
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: treatment at like five point forty five or six am,

977
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: watching the game on his iPad. You can't fake that

978
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: because you gotta love it. You gotta love it. And

979
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I I don't know the kid,

980
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: but his dad told us, like why would his dad lie?

981
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: You ever hear like these parents talk about their kids.

982
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: You at the you know, the Peyton Mannings and the

983
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's, you ever think like, yeah, he could walk away.

984
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: No one ever said that. Of those guys. Peyton had

985
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, man, no one will sign you.

986
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: We don't think you can throw. He's like, bro, I

987
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: still want to play. No one called him back. I

988
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 1: have a couple questions for the mailbag. What are your

989
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: thoughts on Drake May's first start, and what advice would

990
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: you give to someone trying to get into scouting. I

991
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: have college football experience in coaching high school the last

992
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: four years. I tried to get an intern position scouting

993
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: assistant job out of college but failed. I love the

994
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: game and love evaluating talent. I would say on the advice,

995
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: I would get into college. So I don't know where

996
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: you played college football, but I would try to work

997
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: for a college football program because that is the easiest

998
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: stepping stone to the NFL. And ideally, you know, the

999
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: bigger the program, the better. You don't have to go

1000
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 1: to Bama or Texas, but if you could even get

1001
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, D one Double A that where NFL scouts

1002
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: come through, or somehow get to a lower level Division

1003
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: I school because that's the easiest way to meet scouts

1004
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: and kind of get your foot in the door. I

1005
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: had Drake May on kind of a smaller TV, and

1006
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: obviously they were getting their ass kicked early. Some of

1007
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: those throws he made were really nice, and to me,

1008
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: he showed enough Like here's the thing with Drake May, right,

1009
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: it's it's the physical attributes as a project, why you

1010
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: wanted to work with him and the go route. He

1011
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: threw another nice touchdown pass. He kind of ran around

1012
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: after a couple of sacks, like you just like that's

1013
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: ultimately why you threw him in because Jacobi can't do

1014
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: any of that. But early on he got sacked a

1015
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: couple of times. It looked kind of discombobulated. The Texans

1016
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: versue is not a fair fight. It'd be like me

1017
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: walking into a ring with Sugar Shaan or something. You know,

1018
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: You're just You're just gonna get your ass kicked. So

1019
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: I you know, some people will say, like to me,

1020
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: from a winning perspective, I don't put that much credence

1021
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: into bow Nick's fourth quarter against the Chargers, like that

1022
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: doesn't I need that earlier in the game, right because

1023
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm evaluating, like can this team make the playoffs? So

1024
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: like Colin goes, you look at that fourth quarter, well,

1025
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: to me, like I at three and two, their defense

1026
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: look good. I'm like, God, could the Broncos win ten games?

1027
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: And then you see a moment like that, You're like,

1028
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: at home, this can't happen where I'm cool. If that

1029
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: happened to Drake, may you make all these plays in

1030
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: the second half, like That's fine, because you're gonna lose

1031
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: a lot of games. To me, can you provide hope?

1032
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: Can you just make some big plays? Can you know,

1033
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: ideally in three or four weeks, can you score some

1034
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: early touchdowns in the game. But if some of your

1035
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: stuff's in garbage time, I can live with that. And

1036
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: you're really evaluating him more on just physical attributes, like

1037
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: what does the arm strength look like? What does the

1038
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: touch look like? Down the field? Are we gonna be

1039
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: able to run this guy like Josh Allen like that?

1040
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: Does he have a future like That's how I would

1041
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: evaluate him. I have to go back and watch all

1042
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: the snaps because I just kind of look over when

1043
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 1: big plays happened. But listen, I liked him coming out.

1044
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a fan of projects. I have no problems

1045
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: swinging for them. I was a fan of the Anthony

1046
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: Richardson draft pick. And then part of it then is

1047
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: on the coaching staff on the GM to then build

1048
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: the team to coach the guy up. It's risky, but

1049
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: I like risk. You know, some people like going in

1050
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: the slow lane. Kyle Shanahan doesn't like risk. He much

1051
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: more likes the sure, more basic thing. I come from

1052
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: the school more of Andy Reid, like take some swings

1053
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: might blow up in your face, but it might not.

1054
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: So I now, obviously they didn't have the number one pick.

1055
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: It's not like they chose them over all these other guys.

1056
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: But I totally I would be excited if I was

1057
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan. To me that one go ball down

1058
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: the sideline was like that. That was fun, and I

1059
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Speaker 1: wouldn't put too much credence over like if all this

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Speaker 1: touchdowns happen over the next month, when they're down several

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Speaker 1: touchdowns like that, that's your team sucks, so which is

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Speaker 1: not his fault. He didn't control this. I also think

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01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: it's hard with them is when your offensive line like

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be running around for his life, which is

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Speaker 1: probably a big reason why they inserted him, because Jacoby

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Speaker 1: can't move and you just need a guy. Now, you

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Speaker 1: just gotta pray that he doesn't get injured like that.

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Speaker 1: The Bills is gonna be a tough matchup for him

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Speaker 1: because the Bill's got some pass rushers. I might just

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Speaker 1: play Jacoby against the Bills. Question for the mailbag, can

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Speaker 1: you please explain what happened with etn and why he

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Speaker 1: went from potential superstar running back out of college to

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Speaker 1: now a backup to Tank Bigsby. I was a big

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Speaker 1: Etn guy. Even early on in his career, he would

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Speaker 1: have some big plays. He was probably never gonna be,

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Speaker 1: you know, a true between the tackles. He's not as

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Speaker 1: physical even as like smaller. Let's use Kamara as an example.

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01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: Kamar is a really really physical player. He has no

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Speaker 1: problem lowering his shoulder. McCaffrey. Those guys we don't view

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Speaker 1: necessarily as like Derrick Henry's or Bo Jackson, but like

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Speaker 1: they enjoy contact. Etn was always going to be a

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01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: space player, but I remember last year there were just

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Speaker 1: some plays get him on the edges throwing the ball.

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Speaker 1: Does he like football? I mean, honestly does he? Because

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Speaker 1: that's the one position where talented guys get lapped the

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01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: fastest because so many players that like they just don't

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Speaker 1: want it because you have to run so hard. You

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01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: know what's crazy, as you can tell like right away

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Speaker 1: when a guy's kind of if the starter comes out

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Speaker 1: and the backup comes in, especially if you don't know

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Speaker 1: that much like some teams have, like their first and

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Speaker 1: second string guys are legit NFL guys right, like the Bears.

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Speaker 1: You know, the forty nine Ers had like McCaffrey than

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Speaker 1: Jordan Mason. But when Jordan Mason got injured, a couple

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01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: guys you're like, who is this guy? And early on

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01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: you see like, god, he's kind of he's kind of

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01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: just going down, not hitting the whole heart right where

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Speaker 1: if you watch the Lions, it's like Williams and Gibbs,

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01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: like these are two NFL running backs. You know the

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01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: Eagles gain well in Saquon, like these are two guys

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01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: that would play for any team. Sometimes that drop off,

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Speaker 1: it's like, God, this guy's not hitting the hole, and

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01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: then you start getting exposed when the backup, it's like

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Speaker 1: this guy's fucking running his ass off. So part of

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Speaker 1: it unless it's We talk a lot about toughness in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and that was one thing Flacco said with McAfee.

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Speaker 1: He was like, he's like one defining characteristic that you

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Speaker 1: have to have if you're gonna be good in this

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01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: league is like you gotta be tough. And there's no

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Speaker 1: way to to quantify it. There's no way you can

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Speaker 1: scout it by watching the tape. But it's really really

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Speaker 1: hard and he's because He was giving the example of

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01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: Pittman who was supposed to go an ir and then

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Speaker 1: ends up playing and just proving your toughness and playing

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Speaker 1: through stuff is something that really resonates with players and

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Speaker 1: coaches and really separates guys. And as a running back

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01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: to go straight down at eleven guys, maybe not eleven

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01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: because all the DB's won't hit you, but seven eight

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01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 1: guys within I don't know fifteen yard radius are running

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Speaker 1: toward you and want to hit you, and if they

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Speaker 1: get it away from a blocker, they are just gonna

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Speaker 1: hit you hard. You have to be fearless, and it

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Speaker 1: really kind of separates guys, and it's why guys that

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Speaker 1: run like the one thing that stands stands out about Tank,

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Speaker 1: same thing that stands out about watching the Bucks dude

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01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving, Like God, this guy's running his ass off,

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01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,959
Speaker 1: he runs so hard. The Bears example I was using

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Speaker 1: is like, you know, Swift was kind of tap dancing.

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Speaker 1: Then they put the other guy, I think twenty three,

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Speaker 1: Like god, this guy is running hard, and you don't

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Speaker 1: need to be the most talented guy to make you know,

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01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: obviously all these guys are talented to make the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But you could be third or second on the depth chart,

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01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: and if you don't have some you know, elite guy

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01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: in front of you, if things start going bad, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get some run. And the easiest way to stand out,

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Speaker 1: and I've seen it with coaches and I've seen it

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Speaker 1: with gms is just run your ass off, because if

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Speaker 1: you do, you might just run through a tackle. You

1140
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: might just you know, there might be a hole and

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01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you've got a twenty five yard

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Speaker 1: run and boom, you're on the map. Because part of

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01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: that mentality is usually established on special teams covering kicks

1144
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: and you just carry it right over to offense. Or

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Speaker 1: some of these guys they just don't want contact, which

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01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: is understandable. I wouldn't want contact either, but I don't

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Speaker 1: play running back, and if you don't want contact as

1148
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Speaker 1: a running back, it's gonna be really, really hard to

1149
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Speaker 1: be successful in the NFL or willing to run through contact.

1150
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Speaker 1: Was listening to you debate Colin about the greatest national

1151
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: programs in college football. One I struggled to rank is Clemson.

1152
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: Clemson had a near decade long run of elite quarterback play. TODJ.

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Speaker 1: Boyd Deshaun Watson, Trevor Lawrence, which included two national titles.

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01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: They also had a pretty legendary loss. So, I mean

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Speaker 1: they went to three even more appearances in several strong

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Speaker 1: New Year six Bowl Game wins. Who do you compare

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Speaker 1: them to all time and are they a better program

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Speaker 1: than Oregon? Uh, that's a good question. Well, obviously you

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Speaker 1: have the titles. That's you know, they have been more

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Speaker 1: successful in the Internet era than Oregon because they won

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Speaker 1: a Natty in I mean shit, they've been to four

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Speaker 1: national titles fifteen, sixteen, eighteen, in twenty nineteen, and they've

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Speaker 1: won three. You know, they won in nineteen eighty one

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Speaker 1: and then obviously they won two with one with DeShawn

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Speaker 1: and one with Trevor. I think Oregon has been more consistent.

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Speaker 1: But has Oregon ever won a national title? No, they

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01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: have not. They've been to two, they lost them both.

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Speaker 1: Twenty ten they lost to cam Newton, twenty fourteen they

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Speaker 1: got killed by Ohio State. I think if you were

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Speaker 1: betting on a program, you'd give the nod to Clemson.

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Speaker 1: But if you were betting on a program over the

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Speaker 1: next forty years, you'd bet on Oregon. You wouldn't hesitate

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01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: my take on the like I think if you have

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Speaker 1: I can't go historical, right, I wasn't alive in the

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01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: sixties and the seven but I can just go the

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01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: nineties through my adult life. To me, the best programs

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Speaker 1: pretty easily is Ohio State. Like we'll see if Alabama

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01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: can sustain this, but like Alabama was great when Nick

1179
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: Saban was there, we remove him. Now I'm faithful into Boor,

1180
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: But we'll see Kenny. What's his next ten? Like is

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01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: he gonna go to five final fours? You know, Colin

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Speaker 1: didn't mention LSU, which in my life right, especially the

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Speaker 1: Internet age. Starting around two thousand, LSU has won three

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Speaker 1: national titles with three different coaches. They won one with

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban, they won with Les Miles, and they won

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01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 1: with with Ed Oshon. Like that's how could you have

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Speaker 1: Oregon over LSU? So to me, it's Ohio State. Obviously

1188
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't alive for Bear Bryant, but pretty clear Alabama is, like,

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01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the most It's like the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, I mean the most, probably the mostest.

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01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: The USC. Thing's tough because for most of my life

1192
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: USC has sucked. They had like a six year run

1193
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: with Pete Carroll, especially the three years where they were

1194
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: kicking everyone's ass, but you remove him. When I was

1195
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: a kid, UCLA worked USC like Look at USC now

1196
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: they went seven and five last year with a number

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01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: one overall pick. They're three and three. They look like

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01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: it's another seven and five team. So it's not like

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Speaker 1: they're that good right now now. They have been good

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01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: definitely before I was alive, like the sixties and seventies.

1201
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: But I I don't know. I think sometimes they get overhyped.

1202
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: So to me, it's like, Ohio State's an easy one,

1203
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 1: BAM is an easy one. Then you can just make

1204
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 1: arguments for a bunch of other people. I have a

1205
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: hard time leaving LSU out just because three national titles

1206
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 1: in the last twenty five years actually less than that,

1207
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: because sabans will in two thousand and three, so I

1208
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: that's like three national titles in they actually won two

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01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: thousand and three. I forget uh less miles a year,

1210
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: but at Oseron's was twenty nineteen. I don't think it's

1211
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: inconceivable that Brian Kelly gets to a couple final fours

1212
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: in the next five years. So they won an three,

1213
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: O seven and nineteen. I'd have LSU in there for sure,

1214
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: then we could just debate. Looks like Texas about to

1215
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,679
Speaker 1: go on a little run. I think Texas. Oklahoma historically

1216
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: has been pretty incredible. Oklahoma and Texas, you could like

1217
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: combine those two. So Oklahoma has four national titles. Actually no,

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01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: they have more, but some of these in recent years

1219
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 1: they've won. They won a couple in the seventies, they

1220
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: won in nineteen eighty, they won in nineteen eighty six

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01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: claim national titles, they won an eighty five, two thousand,

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01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: they've been a national finalist two thousand, two thousand and three,

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01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: two thousand four, two thousand eight. So yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: good debate, fun talk, have a great date. Audios. The

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Speaker 1: volume