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Speaker 1: Welcome Inside. With the inside there's alongside Ian Rappaport and

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Speaker 1: Mike Garafullo, I am Tom Pelissio. It is a Monday

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Speaker 1: YouTube and podcast edition of the show. We are coming

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Speaker 1: off of the Sunday in week ten and Mike, I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna come straight to you your biggest takeaway coming

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Speaker 1: off of the tenth Sunday of the NFL Suson.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: The undefeated Kansas City Chiefs feel like they've earned that

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Speaker 3: hold on why is this so loud?

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Speaker 4: There we go, it's better too. I turned it down.

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Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs and starting to live dangerously, and it

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Speaker 3: just it just sort of reminded me. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: make the comparison, but sort of reminded me how the

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Speaker 3: Patriots Ian remember that twenty seven season. No, you weren't

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Speaker 3: covering the team. You were covering it for the twenty

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Speaker 3: eleven seasons, two thousand and seven. Just the way that

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, these games you didn't win them

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Speaker 3: as easily and the margins were so small, and it's

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Speaker 3: like you take the bucks to overtime in your own

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Speaker 3: place and then you need a block kick at the

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Speaker 3: end from the Broncos, and it's just amazing how the

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Speaker 3: pattern develops. Right, It's just just highlights how hard it

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Speaker 3: is to be undefeated, no matter how good you are,

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Speaker 3: no matter how good your quarterback is, just how hard

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Speaker 3: it is to be undefeated. And a lot of times

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Speaker 3: these games, now that you're seeing these close victories where

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Speaker 3: you're pulling it out because of a block kick or

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Speaker 3: maybe because the other team didn't go for two at

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Speaker 3: the end of regulation, I'm telling you back at that

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Speaker 3: seven team, and we've seen it with other teams that

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Speaker 3: maybe didn't carry it as deep. It's like you're still winning,

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Speaker 3: but you're winning by the smallest of margins, and that's

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Speaker 3: usually followed by your first loss.

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Speaker 2: Now we'll see it wears on the thing.

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Speaker 3: That's why you hear sometimes coaches will be like, let's

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Speaker 3: just get the loss out of the way with because

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Speaker 3: now we can move on because it's not hanging over

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Speaker 3: your head. So credit to the Chiefs for what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: Let's see how far they can take this. But for me,

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Speaker 3: if I'm Andy Reid, I'm looking at this and saying, Okay,

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Speaker 3: you don't always play for style points, win loss, but

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Speaker 3: the style points are telling me that, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: starting to get a little closer here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, one thing I don't know is, well,

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Speaker 4: let me say this.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't seem like being undefeated is something that's probably

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Speaker 5: gonna happen just based on the number of close laws

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Speaker 5: of close wins, right. But what I don't know is

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Speaker 5: does this mean that they are really good or not

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Speaker 5: as good as the record? And you know, football sort

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Speaker 5: of has a way of sorting that out because in

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Speaker 5: the end, they're going to tell us how far they go, right,

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Speaker 5: Like they go to the super Bowl at fifteen and two,

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Speaker 5: roll through the playoffs, will be like, all right, this

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Speaker 5: was indicative of them kind of knowing how to win

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Speaker 5: or is this just like a little circumstance. You know,

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Speaker 5: I would say, for me, this will probably even itself out, right,

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Speaker 5: And that's so my guess is we're going to get

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Speaker 5: to the end of the year and the Chiefs will

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Speaker 5: have a couple of losses, but they'll be okay in

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Speaker 5: high stress situations. But the other thing I would add

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Speaker 5: time is the Chiefs are getting some players back as

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Speaker 5: Hollywood Brown maybe playoffs potentially. So if the record is

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Speaker 5: good enough and then they get some you know, big

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Speaker 5: I just don't think that there may be the powerhouse

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Speaker 1: The analytics community would tell you that the mark of

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Speaker 1: the best teams is they dominate inferior opponents. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that we've really seen that with the Chiefs over

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Speaker 1: the last two years. Yeah, because you would think that

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Speaker 1: in terms of the matchups here, if you're playing a

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Speaker 1: bad team, you should run up the score, you should

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Speaker 1: blow them out. It's now there's something to be said

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Speaker 1: though for situational football and being able to come through

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Like I'm not big on thinking about you know,

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Speaker 1: on your home field against the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: I was there for you against the brothers. You'd like

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Speaker 1: Chiefs are right now. All credit to them, but I

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Speaker 1: think that you know, if you talk to Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, they're going to tell you we got to

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Speaker 1: play better than this the rest of the way. And

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Speaker 1: I know there was a comment on the broadcast yesterday

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Speaker 1: about Andy Reid saon in the production media. You know, hey,

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Speaker 1: we kind of want to we want to run the

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Speaker 1: the first undefeated team since nineteen seventy two. That'd be great,

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Speaker 1: that'd be a fun storyline here. But you were I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's as close as you get to losing the game yesterday.

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll see over time and as you said,

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Speaker 1: and as they get healthier, what direction.

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Speaker 2: That goes that O seven then O seven Patriots team.

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Speaker 3: You're talking about inferior teams, like they almost lost to

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Speaker 3: the Eagles that year, who were terrible.

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Speaker 2: They almost lost to the Raven.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, they were rolling though.

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Speaker 2: You better go back and check those games. Like they

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Speaker 4: The end, yes, at the at the last couple but

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Speaker 3: On you for so long, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: it's like you're not playing. And that team was housing

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Speaker 3: teams early in the year, like Randy Moss had whatever,

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Speaker 2: And then all of a.

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Speaker 3: on it. There you go. Well, I just I'm just

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Speaker 3: saying it. Just the ultimate goal is winning the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Now they've done it twice, and maybe they're like, hey,

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Speaker 4: That's why just stay focused.

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Speaker 5: Well, so I always Mike as Mike, where as a

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Speaker 5: my golf game. And I think it's fair to say,

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Speaker 5: without fully judging the entire team, psyche, I think it's

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Speaker 5: Chiefs team on the football field, right, Like, I don't

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Speaker 5: think that's a dramatic leap, and when I have moments

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Speaker 5: you know, again, the Chiefs are more mentally tough than me,

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Speaker 5: So maybe that's a me issue, but that's kind of

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Speaker 5: what I wonder is like, at some point, aren't they

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I once said five birdies in a round and did

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Speaker 1: or famine style of golf. So a huge game this

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Speaker 1: week obviously with the Chiefs against the Bills. We've been

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Speaker 1: the biggest threat to the Chiefs in the ABC. They've

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Speaker 1: the Ravens through the course of time here as well.

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Speaker 1: they sit at seven and two and atop the AFC

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Speaker 1: North is the Steelers, and you watched them yesterday. Again

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Speaker 1: a close game, you need some things to go your way.

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Speaker 1: You have a critical fumble with about seven minutes to go,

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Speaker 1: and that could have cost you the game. But the

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Speaker 1: Steelers just kind of keep finding ways to win games,

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Speaker 1: and even more so, they seem to be coming into

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Speaker 1: their own in terms of what they are offensively Ian

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Speaker 1: because when you look at the style of football that

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Speaker 1: they're playing right now with Russell Wilson at quarterback here,

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Speaker 1: it's a different style than what they were playing with

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Speaker 4: Ink They had run that play zero times, I believe.

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Speaker 1: Right and so I mean credit Russell Wilson, a guy

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Speaker 1: he is connecting with George Pickens. He's already connected with

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Speaker 1: Ian is the Steelers right now? My impression was this.

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Speaker 1: My big takeaway from Sunday was this, the Steelers are

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Speaker 1: not beating themselves. They appear to be so well coached,

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Speaker 1: they appear to be improving week by week. And when

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Speaker 1: one of the best around. You know, Lamar Jackson's two

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Speaker 1: been facing a motley crew of quarterbacks. Maybe we need

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Speaker 1: to be taking the Steelers more seriously is one of

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Speaker 5: The quarterbacks dictate so much of what we talk about, right, Like,

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously the Chiefs are great, but a lot

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Speaker 5: And then for the you know, Bills, it's like, well,

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen and the Bills versus Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: And then it's like, obviously the Raymonds have LaMarsh so

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Speaker 5: they're a huge threat. But no one will ever be

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Speaker 5: like man like Russell Wilson, the Patrick Mahomes or like

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like that will never that

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Speaker 5: superstar showdown maybe existed ten years ago, but definitely won't

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Speaker 5: exist now. And I think that's probably the reason why

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Speaker 5: we are not gonna talk about the Steelers like that.

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Speaker 5: They run the heck out of the ball. Nage Harris

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Speaker 5: is having a great season. Like I I.

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Speaker 1: Did plastic decline the option to get the guy to

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Speaker 1: show up, and he's making a ton of money for himself.

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Speaker 5: I remember when when this news came out, first thing

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Speaker 5: Uh, My biggest takeaway is the Arizona Cardinals are good.

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Speaker 5: They kind of feel to me like last year's Texans maybe,

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Speaker 5: it looks like a team that's kind of playing above

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Speaker 4: You know, my guess is not that many. I probably

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Speaker 4: But this team is coming, and it's earlier than we

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Speaker 3: Well, Jonathan Gannon started off with just some horrendous clips.

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Speaker 3: So, but then then he had these clips that you know,

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Speaker 4: People thought that was funny.

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Speaker 3: Show a hands, you have that fire in your gut,

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Speaker 1: I'm sartin to think that at least in recent NFL history,

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Speaker 1: They were insistent over and over, and I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: He's done everything right since we got here. We believe

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Speaker 5: No, remember those questions believe like would he ask to

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Speaker 5: It was all like just just let him play and

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Speaker 2: To the love of God, they're a game behind the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they're tie with the Bengals basically, and the Bengals

438
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Speaker 3: still have a tough schedule ahead of them. The Colts,

439
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Speaker 3: on the other hand, I think I still have the

440
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Speaker 3: second easiest schedule remaining. Now it's at the Jets home

441
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Speaker 3: against the Lions, potentially two tough games, potentially two tough games.

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Speaker 3: Second easiest schedule left, thank you, Blake where But then

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Speaker 3: after that it's Patriots, Broncos again who they're trying to catch, Titans, Giants, Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: They're still in it. They're still in this thing.

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Speaker 4: So does it feel like they're still in it?

446
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Speaker 3: Not the way they're playing, right, But at some point

447
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Speaker 3: you got to figure if they can, if they can

448
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Speaker 3: turn this thing around, if they can get Joe Flacco

449
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Speaker 3: to get in a groove here, and all of a sudden,

450
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Speaker 3: they they've got the talent, you know, to get this thing,

451
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Speaker 3: to get in a roll and to get.

452
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Speaker 2: The momentum going.

453
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Speaker 3: It's like that's why everybody's like, well, Anthony Richardson could

454
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Speaker 3: have done with Joe Flacco did yesterday. Yeah, that's true,

455
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Speaker 3: that's true, But I think you're still looking at it

456
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Speaker 3: from your locker room, still believes that that's the better quarterback.

457
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Speaker 3: Like if you were going to ask your locker room,

458
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Speaker 3: who were we giving the keys to to lead this

459
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Speaker 3: team to the playoffs, they're still gonna say Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 3: So I think that that's the way you've got to

461
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Speaker 3: kind of approach this, and that's the way they are

462
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Speaker 3: approaching it.

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Speaker 5: That is alarming and definitely true because I always think, like,

464
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Speaker 5: when oh, Mike's taking a callin out, that's cool.

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Speaker 4: Did he mute I meet himself?

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Speaker 1: Forgot to mute himself?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I guess that too, could have, could have.

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Speaker 4: Yep, now cannot hear. Good job, we've warned something. It's great.

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Speaker 1: The lip readers I had to get up and run

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Speaker 1: out of the room, so it was awkward. Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: The lip readers who were reading Dak Prescott's thoughts on

473
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Speaker 5: the sideline are not doing the same to to Mike.

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Speaker 1: So it's Pete's extra cheese.

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Speaker 5: I always think that coaching or quarterback changes are more

476
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Speaker 5: locker room driven, player opinion driven than coach making a decision,

477
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Speaker 5: So like I would agree very much on this one,

478
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Speaker 5: where like by the time the Colts made the move

479
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Speaker 5: to Flacco, players knew for sure it was right right,

480
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Speaker 5: but when you know he goes out and those interceptions

481
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Speaker 5: on two of the colts first two possessions, and like

482
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Speaker 5: Richardson sitting there and you know how talented is and

483
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Speaker 5: they're watching him, you know, throw the ball in practice

484
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Speaker 5: till it's great, Like, I wonder how quickly this turns.

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Speaker 4: Here's the other thing.

486
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Speaker 5: If if they're gonna be like this, like if they're

487
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Speaker 5: not gonna win, if Lacco's not gonna be like Flaco

488
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Speaker 5: last year, then like what are we doing?

489
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Speaker 4: Because like the whole point of this is to figure.

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Speaker 5: Out if you have a franchise quarterback going forward, if

491
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Speaker 5: you're not gonna win, then you have to play Anthony

492
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Speaker 5: Richardson because at least you get out of this year

493
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Speaker 5: having information that you didn't have previous.

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Speaker 4: And I think at some point that has to turn

495
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Speaker 4: if the coach don't win some games.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember how we found out Anthony Richardson was

497
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Speaker 1: starting last year? It was Jim Mersey did an interview

498
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Speaker 1: and basically said, Oh, we can't wait, Jonathan Tilor's gonna

499
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Speaker 1: be ready to roll. We're gonna have him out there

500
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Speaker 1: with our new quarterback. And everyone was like, oh, I

501
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Speaker 1: guess Anthony Richardson. Like it was it was in like

502
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Speaker 1: it was before training camp. It was in like July,

503
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Speaker 1: and I have to go back and find the story

504
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Speaker 1: but basically realize, like this is what's gonna happen because

505
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Speaker 1: jim Irsay said it out loud. I've always thought, and

506
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying jim Irsay forced it or anything else.

507
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Speaker 1: I've always thought it was curious though, to tell you

508
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Speaker 1: a to take a player like Anthony Richardson who is

509
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Speaker 1: a raw ball of traits and say you're rolling out

510
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Speaker 1: there immediately and you're gonna go play. It just always

511
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Speaker 1: struck me as this is the opposite of what most

512
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Speaker 1: people were telling me, coaches and scouts about Anthony richard

513
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Speaker 1: He needed to come in Ian and have time, he

514
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Speaker 1: needed to, you know, be able to develop. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that it's it's a huge surprise, you know that

516
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Speaker 1: at this point they're rolling with a guy just who

517
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Speaker 1: simply has a lot more experience. I get it, you

518
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Speaker 1: want him on the field to learn by doing, but

519
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Speaker 1: there's also to be said for you could put him

520
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Speaker 1: on the bench for a year and have him take

521
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Speaker 1: all those scout team reps and learn that way. So

522
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Speaker 1: you know, it's awkward, just like we talked about that

523
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Speaker 1: when Bryce Young was on the bench. Now Bryce Young,

524
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Speaker 1: we talk more about that later. You know, he's come

525
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Speaker 1: in and played a lot better in these past three games.

526
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Speaker 1: They've gotten a couple of wins, and you Richard, it's

527
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Speaker 1: awkward seeing him on the sideline and talking to Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 1: who's you know, for whatever reason, Joe consily looks like he's,

529
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Speaker 1: you know, a narcoleptic and is about to fall asleep

530
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Speaker 1: every time he goes to the bench. I would think

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Speaker 1: at some point here, maybe you see Anthony Richardson be

532
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Speaker 1: reintegrated somewhere on the field and just kind of get

533
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Speaker 1: him going again now that he's had a little bit

534
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Speaker 1: of a reset here. But right now in the yeah,

535
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Speaker 1: as Mike said, the goal seems to be we're trying

536
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Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. We're trying to figure out what

537
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Speaker 1: we are as a team. It's just when the other

538
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Speaker 1: guy puts you in a two touchdown hole right out

539
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Speaker 1: of the gate makes it a lot harder on yourself.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, would it be harmful to anybody,

541
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Speaker 3: anybody at this point if you had an Anthony Richardson

542
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Speaker 3: package of place and he comes in like it's not

543
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Speaker 3: it's hurt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's your one concern because.

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Speaker 3: Football, Yes, I'm just saying, would it be that it's

546
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Speaker 3: not going to be detri like Joe Flacco hasn't cuestioned.

547
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Speaker 3: Well enough, good question for you to be like, well,

548
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Speaker 3: we got to keep them on the bench, and this

549
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 3: is Joe Flacco's ship here to navigate. But by the

550
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Speaker 3: same token, like I said, I still think that the

551
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Speaker 3: general belief in the building is this is the best

552
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Speaker 3: quarterback to take us to the playoffs. But you've got

553
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Speaker 3: this weapon, utilize it. Plus you get him back on

554
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Speaker 3: the field at least a little bit, you know, just

555
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Speaker 3: to keep them kind of in the flow of things.

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Speaker 3: And you know, now you've got defenses planning for two

557
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Speaker 3: different quarterbacks. I'd probably go that route this week.

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Speaker 2: I would and that and that.

559
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Speaker 5: Okay, so okay, So here's the answer to your question.

560
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Speaker 5: If they're in an offensive rhythm and Flacco's rolling, yes,

561
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Speaker 5: it hurts right, like you know, like this was the

562
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Speaker 5: argument against Taysom Hill when Breeze was rolling and then

563
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Speaker 5: he kind of went the wrong way and then it

564
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 5: was like, oh, actually, but they are not rolling, so

565
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 5: I would be go ahead time.

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Speaker 1: Well also with with Taysom and you still saw it.

567
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Speaker 1: I was at the game last year where every time

568
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Speaker 1: that Taysom would check into the game. The crowd would

569
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Speaker 1: go wild and every time Derek Carr came back and

570
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: they would boo him. And they're taking him in out

571
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Speaker 1: like normal down and distance in the middle of the field.

572
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Speaker 1: I'll think you do that with Anthony richard I think

573
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Speaker 1: it's all right, first and goal from the two. Let's

574
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Speaker 1: have some plays in, let's let's bring some different The

575
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: question you have to ask yourself is do they trust

576
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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson to make the right decisions? Uh? In those situations?

577
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, would would that not help if he gets

578
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Speaker 1: himself in the end zone or he makes something happen,

579
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Speaker 1: even if it's a small thing. I tend to I

580
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Speaker 1: tend to side with Mike that it's worth the shot. Uh,

581
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Speaker 1: real quick too, before we go one other, one other, Uh,

582
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Speaker 1: you know, I'll come from yesterday involving a AFC South team,

583
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Speaker 1: obviously the Jaguars who have been in every game we

584
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Speaker 1: have to blow out on Monday night in Buffalo. The

585
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Speaker 1: Jaguars have been there and they it's been can you

586
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: close the game out? And yesterday you happen to have

587
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Speaker 1: a basically a walk off penalty on Trayvon Walker for

588
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: getting into it with somebody after the play. But for

589
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Speaker 1: the Vikings and with Sam Donald, the question Mike is

590
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: going to be, can you get Sam Donald back to

591
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Speaker 1: the Sam Donald we saw out of the gate? Or

592
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Speaker 1: are you having some sort of a regression to the

593
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Speaker 1: mean here where all of a sudden, one or two

594
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: of those catastrophic mistakes becomes two or three. And then

595
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: you got a guy who at times is throwing you

596
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Speaker 1: out of games instead of keeping you in them.

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Speaker 3: Well you got tape now, right, I mean you had

598
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 3: tape on him before, but now you got tape on

599
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Speaker 3: him in this situation. I think that that's helping some

600
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: defenses throw some things at him and forcing the answer

601
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 3: the quiz and he hasn't quite done it.

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Speaker 2: I think that's number one.

603
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Speaker 3: I also think that sometimes these teams that play above

604
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Speaker 3: their head, you talk about their regression to the mean,

605
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Speaker 3: to the mean not just for Donald but for the

606
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Speaker 3: whole thing. And it's not uncommon to see Okay, six

607
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 3: wins or whatever, six wins to start the season and

608
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Speaker 3: then a cluster of losses and.

609
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Speaker 2: Then it goes one to two ways.

610
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Speaker 3: Right, Either you get back and you regain the early

611
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 3: season four or you just kind of stay there and

612
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: maybe even drop down a little bit more. I'm having

613
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Speaker 3: trouble coming up with a recent comparison, but I feel

614
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Speaker 3: like I've seen this with a team before.

615
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: You go, well, that team can't be that good, and then.

616
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, it's like cluster of losses and

617
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 3: then we see some teams shoot back.

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Speaker 2: So I just it's it's a gut check type thing.

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Speaker 3: I saw some people speculating that they've got to go

620
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Speaker 3: out and sign quarterbacks, and I mean that you're committed

621
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Speaker 3: to Sam Darnold at this point, right, It's it's there's no.

622
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Speaker 1: I mean, Ryan Tannehill, I donother pain Ryan Tannehill ten

623
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Speaker 1: million dollars to get off the couch and play down

624
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Speaker 1: the stretch of the season and upgrade over what you

625
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Speaker 1: got rolling right? All right, Hey, we had it. We

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Speaker 1: had a break. This is two part every Monday. It's

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Speaker 1: a two part podcast and YouTube show. So in part two,

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Speaker 1: we're going to tackle the Cowboys, what's going on with

629
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Speaker 1: the Jets, the Giants who have a quarterback situation evolving.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the Lions to pull that out of

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Speaker 1: I don't know where last night, pull out. More to

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Speaker 1: come for Mike and Ian I'm thom See, I'm Part two,