1 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Here's a truth, an uncomfortable truth, but it obviously is true. 2 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: I have said for the longest time that women, that 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: men and women are obviously different, with different talents made 4 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: for different things. But women have an ability, an ability 5 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: to really guide the emotions of the room, the mood 6 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: of the room, if you will. If you have a woman, 7 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: women walking into a room and they're smiling and happy 8 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: and laughing, inevitably the mood in that room will lift. 9 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: And if you have a woman walk into the room. 10 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: With that thundercloud over her, heead like you used to 11 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: see in the cartoons, sour dour, everything socks, it's going 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: to drag down. 13 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: The whole mood of the room. 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: You know this because you have a democrat, sadly in 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: your life, maybe at work maybe, and your family. When 16 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: the democrat walks in, shows up to the family reunion, 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: what happens, Oh, here we go, it happens now. The 18 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: truth is this is obviously not my wisdom. The truth 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: is this, Frankly, it's biblical. I could sit and read 20 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 1: for you a million different verses from the Bible about 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 1: how a wonderful one will brighten your life. I'm paraphrasing, 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: and a quarrelsome one, you'll hate your freaking life horrible. 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: So let's focus on where. 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: We are here in the United States of America. We 25 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: have a feminism problem, and that has created a miserable 26 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: woman problem. And the thing is, it's more than just 27 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: creating a bunch of forty year olds on Xanax who 28 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: hate themselves and everyone else only they love illegals. What 29 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: it's doing is it's dragging down the mood of the 30 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: entire country, because that's what happens when you're around miserable women. Okay, 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: so how do we get so many miserable women? It 32 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: was not all like this. I know they taught you 33 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: in school that women used to be kept in chains 34 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: and whipped in the country, but that's actually not true 35 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: at all. Women were quite happy in this country for 36 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: a very long time. Now they hate everything what we had. 37 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: Ali Besstockian, she's one of my favorites. She really got 38 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: to a point we talked about a lot on the 39 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: show here. 40 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: She was all of us, as women have this motherly instinct, 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: whether or not we become biological moms. Like as far 42 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: back as we can remember, we loved dressing up our barbies. 43 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: I have three girls myself, every object in our home 44 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: becomes a baby or becomes a family, whereas with my nephews, 45 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: every object becomes a gun. And so you see the 46 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 3: differences so early on between boys and girls. And that 47 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 3: doesn't just go away. Even if you become a high 48 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: powered career woman. That natural nurturing instinct will be channeled somewhere. 49 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: And my argument is that when it's channeled not in 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 3: the right direction, not towards children, whether they're your biological 51 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: children or whether it's children that you volunteer with or 52 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 3: care for in some way. When that mothering instinct is 53 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: channeled towards politics, when it's chaniled towards her profession, when 54 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: it's channeled toward appliants, or channeled towards pets, then it 55 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: gets perverted into something that actually makes women very bitter 56 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: and very angry. And they have this mama bear instinct, 57 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: especially with politics, where the illegal alien becomes their child, 58 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: the woman seeking an abortion becomes their child. And we know, 59 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: as mama bear is that we would do anything to 60 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: stop our child from being harmed in some way. And 61 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 3: I think that's why we see so much cruelty, so 62 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: much anger. You think of someone like Renee Good who 63 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: is willing to run over a police officer like it's 64 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: that mama bear instinct but channeled in these very wrong 65 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: directions that justifies this anger and cruelty and bitterness in 66 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: so many of these liberal women. 67 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: I love that word she used, perverted. 68 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: Now we usually use that word differently, right, the creep 69 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: that gets arrested near a school. But what it actually 70 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: means is really to take something and divert it into 71 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: something horrible and evil, Take something normal and divert it 72 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: into something demonic. And that's what we've done with women 73 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: in this country. Women are wonderful, should be celebrated, should 74 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: be loved, women deserve that. But women also have a 75 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: role to play in society, and that is obviously to nurture, 76 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: to support, to care. And what happens is these dirty 77 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: communists they take those wonderful instincts that all women are 78 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: born with and they pervert them. Instead of being the 79 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: mother of a child or or something like that, instead, no, no, no, 80 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: you're the mother of the illegal immigrant rapist. This is 81 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: what we've allowed to happen for years, and the net 82 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: result is misery for everyone. We're not making babies, not 83 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: enough of them anymore because the left, the feminists, have 84 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: completely pulled themselves out of that pool. Men are more miserable, 85 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: women are more miserable, drugged out. It is pulling all 86 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: of it down. They went after women, They did it 87 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: on purpose, and it's killing us. Now we get women 88 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: like this, joy my joice, It's not good. It's more 89 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: than just a funny thing to joke about. It's something 90 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: we have to fix. We have to get rid of feminism. 91 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: We have to get back to being a society that 92 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: has led the right way, where men are more happy, 93 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: women are more happy, where men and women actually get 94 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: together and get married and make babies and everything is 95 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: right and we can but we can't ever get there 96 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: without actually talking about the problem in an honest way. 97 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: How and why did we get here? 98 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: Now? 99 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: The good news is we just have man alive. We 100 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: have some great people to talk to you about this 101 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: as Stepman's going to talk to us, Megan Basham's gonna 102 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: talk to us. We have a pastor with actual guts 103 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: who's going to join the show and talk to us 104 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: about these things. How do we fix where we are? 105 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: Where are we and how do we fix it? We 106 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: have a great special tonight and I'm right, we'll be back. 107 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: You know, there is such a difference between five cups 108 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: of coffee energy and just natural energy. You know what 109 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: I'm talking about because I know you've done it. I 110 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: certainly have done it where you have had a little 111 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: too much caffeine and now your hands are shaking like 112 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: an alcoholic and your palms are sitting there and they're sweating. 113 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: And it's not a great energy, is it. It's barely 114 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: better than the tire you felt beforehand. But natural energy 115 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: where you just feel good. You want to move, you 116 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: want you want to get out when you get on 117 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: from work instead of popping down on the couch. You 118 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: want to go for a walk. You want to do 119 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: something that's the good kind. And that's what Chop will 120 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: give you. A male Vitality stack or a female vitality 121 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: stack from Chalk. It's not just going to improve your mood. 122 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: I get emails from eighty year olds tell me they 123 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: haven't had this much energy in years. Natural herbal supplements 124 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: from Chalk, Chalk dot Com, slash Jesse TV get a 125 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: subscription about the feel great. 126 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: It's the birth way to on oath is so low 127 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 4: that we're facing civilizational collapse unless the birth rate. 128 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: Returns to as a sustainable level. 129 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: You've talked about it's lot. The depopulation is a big problem, 130 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 4: and we yes, people don't. Population collapse is one of 131 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: the biggest threats of the future of human civilization. And 132 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 4: that is what is going on right now. 133 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm pro human I want more human beings and we're 134 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: losing them and it is not good. And it's such 135 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: an uncomfortable conversation, but we know, and as it's not 136 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: going to shy away from those joining me in and 137 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: as Stepman, senior policy analysts with the Independent Women's. 138 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: Forum, and as why aren't human. 139 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: Beings having babies at the same rate they used to 140 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: have babies. It's not an American problem or a Japanese 141 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: problem or European problem. 142 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: It appears to be a worldwide problem. What's the problem? 143 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the fact that it is 144 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,559 Speaker 5: worldwide makes it much harder to pin on the source 145 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 5: that you and I are both more than happy to blame, 146 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 5: which is feminism. I do think that culture is part 147 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 5: of it, and the feminist culture is part of the 148 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 5: dropping birth. 149 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 6: Rate, but obviously there's a larger component. 150 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 5: When you see the birth rate dropping in the Middle East, 151 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 5: for example, I have a hard time imagining that feminism 152 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 5: is the primary culprit there. 153 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 7: No. 154 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's one of the most important 155 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 5: questions that we can confront, but there isn't a clear 156 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 5: answer if it were. For example, a lot of people 157 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 5: want to blame it on economics, but the fact is 158 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 5: that during the Great Depression, the people are still having babies. 159 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 5: Like in the Holocaust, people were still having babies. And 160 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 5: it doesn't make sense to me. Even though I do 161 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 5: think that we should reorganize some of our policy to 162 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 5: make it more family friendly, and to reorganize our tax policy, 163 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 5: for example, reorganize some of our paid leave policies the 164 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 5: way that Independent Women wants to do, I think is 165 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 5: a very good idea, but I don't know that that 166 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 5: is actually going to turn the birth rate around. We 167 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 5: seem to have lost our fundamental drive as a species 168 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 5: and our confidence in replicating both our civilization and ourselves. 169 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: And as let's focus here at home, because you're right, 170 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: if we focus globally, I mean, it's just such a 171 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: difficult problem to solve. And the truth is, the problems, 172 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: the reasons for the problems are probably different from country 173 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: to country. Here in America, it's hard not to look 174 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: at the numbers. The numbers say that right wingers they're 175 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: getting married, they're making babies. Left wingers have simply removed 176 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: themselves from that pool almost entirely. 177 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 5: Why so, I think the values in the way that 178 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 5: you see life obviously affects the decisions. 179 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 6: That you make about your family. 180 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 5: First of all, they're one of the major drivers of 181 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 5: both our political divide and of lack of family formation. 182 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 5: Let's say, and including lack of babies, is the fact 183 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 5: that there are simply a lot more single, childless women 184 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 5: hitting forty forty five than there used to be. There's 185 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 5: the highest in recorded American history, and those women have 186 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 5: not only are they not having babies, they are also 187 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 5: have wildly different politics than the rest of America. If 188 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 5: you look at married men, unmarried men, and married women, 189 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 5: all of them vote GOP by anywhere from a few 190 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 5: percentage points like five right. There's no huge split or 191 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 5: a divided country, But basically all those three categories of 192 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 5: people lean slightly Republican. Unmarried women vote nearly seventy percent Democrat, right, 193 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 5: so it's seventy thirty. They are the outliers, just like 194 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 5: the politics of young women, young women is the outlier. 195 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 5: We have all of this sort of discussion and discourse 196 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 5: around whether young men are getting too radicalized or going 197 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 5: too far right, but the reality is, when you actually 198 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 5: look at the political center and where politics has gone 199 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 5: for each one of these categories, what's happened is young 200 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 5: women and then older single women vote extremely far left 201 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 5: in vastly disproportionate numbers to all other categories. So more 202 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 5: than they're married you know, women's sisters, right, more than 203 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 5: men who are either air married or unmarried. They really 204 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 5: are the democratic base and they're a very reliable one. 205 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: Okay, So that, of course is going to beg the 206 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: question of why, because when you look at something like that, logically, 207 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: single women, unmarried women, they're frankly the most vulnerable to 208 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: things like predators, criminals, savages we've brought in from El 209 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: Salvador and things like that, and yet they vote reliably, unbelievably, 210 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: reliably reliably for the politicians that turn those savages loose 211 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: on them. And as can you walk me through the why? 212 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I do think there's something to the 213 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 5: canard that is maybe overused, but I do think there 214 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 5: is something to the analysis that women without families of 215 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 5: their own, without husbands, without children, are channeling what are 216 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 5: natural female instincts of, you know, sort of empathy and 217 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 5: care and taking care of others. They're channeling it into 218 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 5: political activism, and I think they're kind of projecting those 219 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 5: feelings onto I don't know a million people or billion 220 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 5: people in the Third World, all of whom who would 221 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 5: like to come to the United States. Right, But I 222 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 5: do think that there is this relationship between making politics 223 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 5: the center of your virtue signaling or you know, what 224 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 5: you think about yourself as a good person, when you 225 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 5: don't have those kinds of responsibilities to other people in 226 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 5: a more direct way, you channel those feelings into these 227 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 5: kinds of like political outreach, let's say, or political quote 228 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 5: unquote empathy. But that the fact is that the results 229 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 5: of that quote unquote empathy are couldn't be more as 230 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 5: you mentioned, couldn't lack any kind of sympathy or empathy 231 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 5: more for example, for the victims of people who commit crimes, 232 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 5: for the ordinary people, the women and children who have 233 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 5: to take the subway, with people who get let out 234 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 5: of prison. On this ideological basis, right, it just the 235 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 5: results of it are actually very bad for women and children, 236 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 5: including single women. But I tend to think that that's 237 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 5: kind of an unshakeable piece of our politics, that single 238 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 5: women will continue to vote very far left for whatever reason. 239 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 5: And I think that the Republican Party should one double 240 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 5: down on outreach to men. I think we should show 241 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 5: men what they stand to gain in politics, and two 242 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 5: to make that delineation between married women and unmarried women, 243 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 5: and to press our advantage with married women who have husbands, 244 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 5: who have sons right where are concerned about a lot 245 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 5: of the same issues. They see their pics and worldview 246 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 5: as connected to their family. Their interests are bound up 247 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 5: within their families in a way that I think either 248 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 5: single men or single women don't really have. 249 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: And as can you walk me through this? 250 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: So we hop in a time machine and we go 251 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: back to the nineteen hundred, right, not ancient history. Were 252 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: single women a bunch of filthy, dirty comies back then? 253 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: Two? 254 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: Or is this a feminism turned single women that way 255 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: over the last century or so? I know it's a 256 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: ham fisted way to ask the question, but you know 257 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: how dumb I am. You know what I'm saying is 258 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: this just single women or naturally that way. 259 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 5: Don't put yourself down. Just see I know you're a 260 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 5: college community college graduate. No, I can't tell you all 261 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 5: the way back to nine hundred because we didn't collect the 262 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 5: data then. 263 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 6: But we started collecting. 264 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 5: Data on male and female voting rates in the nineteen 265 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 5: fifties and what you see, and we didn't really break 266 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 5: it down into categories then. 267 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 6: But there's a strongly suggestive trying from. 268 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 5: The data, which is actually, in the nineteen fifties, women 269 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 5: voted several points more Republican than men. Okay, so this 270 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 5: has not always been a feature of politics that women 271 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 5: are left and men are to the right. At one point, 272 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 5: women were voting more heavily Republican than men were, and 273 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 5: this is the nineteen fifties, where the Republican Party was 274 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 5: the more conservative of the two parties. Still, so it's 275 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 5: not just that it's flipped or something. As you progress 276 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 5: into the seventies, you start to see what we call 277 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 5: now the gender voting gap, right, you start to see 278 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 5: that opening up, and by the time you get to 279 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 5: the eighties and nineties, it's very much where we see 280 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 5: it here, which is anywhere from ten to twelve point 281 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 5: gap regularly between men and women voting similarly, if you 282 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 5: go to nineteen fifties, see that the percentage of single 283 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 5: women in society was very low, and you see a 284 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 5: pretty steady line up accelerating through the nineteen seventies and 285 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 5: eighties to the rate that we have today. So I 286 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 5: think it's strongly suggested by the data. I can't say 287 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 5: that one hundred percent proofs my thesis, but just I 288 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 5: think it's strongly. 289 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 6: Suggested by the data. 290 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 5: That's what's happening is not that women are inherently left 291 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 5: and men are inherently right, but specifically that the percentage 292 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 5: of single women is going up over time, and that 293 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 5: they vote reliably like way skewed to the left. Now, 294 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 5: whether that's a feature of nature or whether that's a 295 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 5: particular future of our time and our politics and our 296 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 5: particular feminism, I don't know. I mean, you could easily 297 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 5: construct an argument saying, well, single women are more vulnerable, 298 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 5: maybe they need more government benefits for example, and they're 299 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 5: going to vote always for the big government party. But 300 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 5: I regardless of why that exists, I do think that's 301 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 5: the reason for the gap which. 302 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 6: There's so much. If you are on the right. 303 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 5: You know, you've heard from every imaginable outlet, both left 304 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 5: and right, like what do we do about the women's vote, 305 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 5: Like how do Republicans appeal to women? 306 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 6: And the reality is Republicans do appeal to women. They 307 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 6: just appeal to married women and single women. 308 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 5: You know, obviously one third of single women are interested 309 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 5: in voting Republicans. Not universal, but single women are very 310 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 5: disproportionately left. 311 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: Does it just come down to feminism? I don't know. 312 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: That's probably an oversimplification because there are a lot of factors. 313 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: Does it just come down to the nineteen fifties woman 314 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: wasn't inundated with I am woman hearing me roar crap, 315 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: and the modern woman is and it's eaten her alive. 316 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 5: I think it's related to that, which is I think 317 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 5: the if you go back even to Betty for None, 318 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 5: who popularized feminism in the United States in the early sixties, 319 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 5: if you. 320 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 6: Go back to Betty for Donne, oftentimes the. 321 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 5: Most prominent women who are are like the most prominent 322 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 5: feminists are women, you know, not universally, but there's a 323 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 5: stereotype or reason. Are women who have been very disappointed 324 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 5: in the relationships with men. Betty, for Dad, had a 325 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 5: very bad marriage. She did not have a good time. 326 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 5: She was that her husband was abusive, at least according 327 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 5: to her, who knows. 328 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 6: But like, the point is. 329 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 5: That I do think that the fact that feminism encouraged 330 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 5: women to see men's interests is oppositional to them, is 331 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 5: an obstacle to marriage, is an obstacle to family formation. 332 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 6: And what we know is that it's an obstacle for 333 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 6: to women's happiness. 334 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 5: If that's what you care about at the end of 335 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 5: the day, I would argue that there are more important 336 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 5: things in the world than women's happiness. However, if you 337 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 5: take that as your metric, the most unhappy, and this 338 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 5: is self reported, the most unhappy women in America, the 339 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 5: most heavily medicated, the most likely to say that they 340 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 5: have been diagnosed with mental health issues like depression and anxiety, 341 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 5: are single women. And the happiest women in America are 342 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 5: married women's women with kids. 343 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 6: This is a replicable of finding. 344 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 5: Brad Wilcox has great data on this, and even more so, 345 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 5: you see that since the nineteen seventies, specifically to your 346 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 5: point about feminism, since the nineteen seventies, when let's say 347 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 5: the second wave of feminism went, you know, mainstream among women. 348 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 5: You see that female happiness has been declining very steadily 349 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 5: since the nineteen seventies, both absolutely, meaning that the average 350 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 5: woman in the nineteen seventy, the average woman in nineteen ninety, 351 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 5: the one from nineteen seventy was happier than the one 352 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 5: from nineteen ninety. Also relative to men, so men are 353 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 5: more unhappy than they are, more the situation in nineteen 354 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 5: seventy than they were in nineteen seventy. 355 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 6: But men's happiness is actually dropped off less than women's have. 356 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 5: So it really is a kind of feminism is a 357 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 5: self harm ideology for women. It really doesn't lead to 358 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 5: the sort of things in life that actually, on average 359 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 5: tend to make women happy. And look, I guess we'll 360 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 5: go full circle and say that unhappy women vote. 361 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: Democrat and as appreciate you dropping some wisdom, onis to 362 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: come back soon, all right. There is most definitely a 363 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: spiritual angle to this, as we talked about a little 364 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: bit in the open. Megan Basham talks about this a lot. 365 00:19:51,960 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: She's going to join us next. I love sleeping. It's 366 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: been one of my favorite things. And I don't know, 367 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: maybe I'm just getting old. I love it more and 368 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: more now. And Man, when you knock out eight hours 369 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: of solid sleep and you wake up the next day, 370 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: don't you just feel like a completely different person than 371 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: when you're tired all the time, sucking down coffee all 372 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: day long. Man, you need to try some dream powder 373 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: from Beam. For one, It's delicious. It's a cup of 374 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: hot chocolate. And if I didn't tell you what was 375 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: in it, and I just handed you a cup of it, 376 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: you'd never know. It's got all kinds of magnesium, all 377 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: kinds of things you see right there in it. But 378 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: what happens is natural ingredients. You sip on the cup 379 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: of hot chocolate, and for me it's twenty thirty minutes later. 380 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 2: Let's get a little tired. 381 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: Can I go call in a bed and boom them out? 382 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: And when I wake up the next day, I feel fantastic, 383 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: not that heavy, groggy, miserable, feeling like you took something 384 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: to sleep. I just feel great. I don't even get 385 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night. You want to 386 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: sleep like that? Shopbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly, go 387 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: get some. 388 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 2: Well. 389 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: As I mentioned in the opening, I don't care if 390 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: it makes you uncomfortable. There's a spiritual angle to this. 391 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: The most definitely is you can't understand this without understanding 392 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: that God made men and made women, and he made 393 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: them for each other. And you can see example after 394 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: example of it in the scriptures of when you have 395 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: a wonderful one, your life is so much brighter, and 396 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: when you have a crappy one, well, I'm paraphrasing, but 397 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: he tells you to go sleep on the roof. 398 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 2: Joining me now, Megan. 399 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: Basham, author of the wonderful book Shepherds for Sale, reporter 400 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: at the Daily Wire, Megan, there is a spiritual angle 401 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: to all this feminism that has eaten up men and 402 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: ruined women's happiness and ruined men, and it just kind 403 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: of sucks. 404 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, it does. 405 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 8: And I'll tell you what sucks more, Jesse, is to 406 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 8: know that you know, to a large degree, this was engineered. 407 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 6: This was something that you know back in the nineteen sixties, the. 408 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 8: The Johnson administration and the Nixon administration both worked with 409 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 8: the un and the Rockefeller Foundation to do things like 410 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 8: pull homech out of schools and to encourage women to 411 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 8: pursue careers. And so that's what women did, and you 412 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 8: now flash forward some fifty sixty years, and what you 413 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 8: have are women who are increasingly unhappy. When you look 414 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 8: at the rates of depression among women, it has skyrocketed, 415 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 8: alcohol abuse has skyrocketed, rates of narcotic use has skyrocketed. 416 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 6: So you see all of these indicators that women aren't happy. 417 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 8: And at the same time, we have even Republicans pushing 418 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 8: solutions on women that are not actually what they say 419 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 8: they want. Even right now, you have about two thirds 420 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 8: to three fourths of mothers with children under eighteen who 421 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 8: say that they would prefer not to work full time. 422 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 8: And yet what are the solutions were being given. We're 423 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 8: being given solutions of paid daycare, of federal daycare, of 424 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 8: new entitlements when we don't actually want that. What we 425 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 8: want is to be home and to mother our children. So, 426 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 8: you know, it's a really difficult problem when you, as 427 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 8: someone who realizes the damage that feminism has been doing 428 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 8: to our culture, has no side that you can really 429 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 8: look to for the kind of solutions that, as you said, Jesse, 430 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 8: are biblical, and that's a return to predominantly male leadership. 431 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: Oh yes, well, that's an uncomfortable conversation that certainly never 432 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: gets brought up in about ninety nine percent of churches 433 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: in this country. You'll see your pastor dancing like a 434 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: professional around that issue about every single Sunday. But it 435 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: does matter, and it's one of those conversations people don't 436 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: want to have because pastors don't want angry emails, you know, 437 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: the podcasters, writers don't want angry emails. But the truth 438 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: is everyone was happier men and women when we just 439 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: admitted it's better for the man to lead and the 440 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: woman to love and support, and just made for a 441 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: happier society. 442 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 8: Well, and I think we have to acknowledge the strengths 443 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 8: of both sexes. There's a reason that God decreed that 444 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 8: women are primarily focused on raising and nurturing children, because 445 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 8: He gave us those hearts that feel for people. We 446 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 8: do tend to prioritize people's emotions and people's feelings over 447 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 8: the rules and over questions of justice. And that is 448 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 8: why I think you see so many of these For example, 449 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 8: the protesters interfering with ice, they tend to be women 450 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 8: because they have been successfully convinced that what they're doing 451 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 8: is initiating a protective instinct against these innocent, maligned vulnerable immigrants. 452 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 8: Now we know that's not true, but that's the picture 453 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 8: that they've accepted. And I think that's why they are 454 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 8: out on the streets and instead of at home mothering 455 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 8: their family. 456 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 6: They're trying to mother illegal immigrants. I think that's what 457 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 6: we're seeing. 458 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 8: And yeah, it is a problem that pastors won't talk 459 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 8: about this fact. 460 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 6: And I think we can look at a couple of 461 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 6: things in the news just this week. 462 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 8: It was hysterical in that fraud hearing when the woman pastor, 463 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 8: and you know, I come from a denomination and from 464 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 8: a doctrinal background where I don't believe in women pastors 465 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 8: to begin with, but you know, she sat there and 466 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 8: it was very evident that she had very little biblical understanding. 467 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 8: She could not identify the parable of the talents when 468 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 8: it was being read to her. So what I think 469 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 8: we see is that those kinds of quote unquote pastors, 470 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 8: they deal in emotional slogans, they deal in, you know, 471 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 8: the kind of lines that you would post on Instagram 472 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 8: under a gauzy pink picture of you know, a cup 473 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 8: of coffee and a picture of the Bible. That's the 474 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 8: depth that you get there. And that was so revealed 475 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 8: in that exchange. And part of the problem is that 476 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 8: women don't like to make people feel uncomfortable, and that 477 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 8: is not the job of a shepherd. The job of 478 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 8: a pastor is sometimes you have to confront sin, you 479 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 8: have to call out lies. And I think part of 480 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 8: the drift that we have seen in the church, which 481 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 8: sets the tone for the culture, is that pastors have 482 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 8: not been willing to do that, and instead, those women 483 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 8: who you talked about, they're on the line, they're calling 484 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 8: their pastors, they're badgering them. And that explains so much 485 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 8: of the leftward drift that we've seen in the church 486 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 8: is because the pastor it has abdicated their responsibility and 487 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 8: their leadership to women. 488 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: Megan, a little birdie whispered in my ear that you 489 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: are actually writing a book about how feminism is destroying 490 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: the West. If you can confirm these rumors and then 491 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: explain yourself, I would appreciate it. 492 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 8: Yes, that's absolutely true. So you know the working title 493 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 8: right now. I'm not sure this will will ultimately go with, 494 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 8: but we've been calling it medicated, miserable, and alone, how 495 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 8: the female on happiness crisis is destroying the West, because 496 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 8: that's what's happening, Jesse. Part of the reason is, I 497 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 8: can give you the example of when we look at 498 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 8: the cornerstone of a philosophy for American law, it's something 499 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 8: called Blackstone's ratio, and it was a principle that Benjamin 500 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 8: Franklin voiced where he said, we would rather see one 501 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 8: hundred guilty men go free than convict an innocent man 502 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 8: and punish an innocent man. With feminism, and what we've seen, 503 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 8: for example, in Title nine and even in our formal courts, 504 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 8: is this reversal where feminism says we would rather see 505 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 8: one hundred innocent men punished to ensure we get that 506 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 8: guilty man. And so that has been the reversal of 507 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 8: the bedrock of the American and Western understanding of law 508 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 8: and justice, and it's being reversed in favor of this 509 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 8: feminist idea of instead we have to do things like 510 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 8: protect traumatized victims. So that means, for example, that an 511 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 8: accused person doesn't have the right to confront their accuser 512 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 8: if it's going to make the accuser feel bad or 513 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 8: feel afraid. And so these are the kinds of shifts 514 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 8: that we're seeing that are destroying the West because we 515 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 8: are throwing out hundreds of years of jurisprudence and understanding 516 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 8: of what justice means in order to accommodate these sensitive 517 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 8: feminine feelings. 518 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: Is there some sort of a connection with the lgbt 519 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: Q demon mob freak movement and feminism? I mean we 520 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: see them aligned at their at their at their gross 521 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: little parades and things like that. 522 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: Are they are they? Are they? One? Yeah? 523 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 6: Absolutely? 524 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 8: And you know, we just talked about that woman pastor, 525 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 8: and that's one of the issues. I can point to 526 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 8: almost every single denomination that eventually shifted on the question 527 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 8: of women in the pastorate, and they changed their minds 528 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 8: and they said no, even though scripture and the Apostle 529 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 8: Paul tell us that the pulpit is reserved for men. 530 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 8: When they made that shift to women in the pastorate, 531 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 8: those same denominations, the mainline denominations, United Methodist Church, the 532 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 8: Episcopalian Church, they eventually also embraced LGBTQ affirmation. And I 533 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 8: think it is because both of those issues spring from 534 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 8: the same tree. It's a question of what ordered gender is, 535 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 8: about what instructions and what order does God lay out 536 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 8: for the different sexes. 537 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 6: Now, if we're going to get that wrong with men 538 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 6: and women. 539 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 8: At that point, it makes sense that we are willing 540 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 8: to shift the boundaries on all kinds of questions of 541 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 8: sexuality and gender. So I absolutely do not think that 542 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 8: you can untangle those two issues, and it's why I 543 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 8: think they so often go hand in hand. You know, 544 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 8: just a quick example, if you look at the transgenderism issue, 545 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 8: for example, poles were showing that men from the get 546 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 8: go never backed, for example, allowing biological men to play 547 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 8: in women's sports. Men never backed the idea of transitioning 548 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 8: minor children it's changing, but women did. The majority of 549 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 8: women did back that. They backed it in greater percentage 550 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 8: points than men. And I think that tells you something. 551 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 8: That is what people like Alibeth Stucky have been calling 552 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 8: toxic empathy, because what it shows us is that these 553 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 8: women felt like we are being kind, we are being 554 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 8: loving by indulging what a confused child is telling us, 555 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 8: or what a perverse adult is telling us. And so 556 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 8: I think that showed the damage and the destruction that 557 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 8: the God given good of female tenderness and sensitivity and empathy. 558 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 6: Those things are good. 559 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 8: But when you exploit a good that God has given us, 560 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 8: when you twist it, it becomes something wicked. 561 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 6: It can become the most wicked thing. 562 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: Okay, Megan, I'm going to ask this question, and it's 563 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: one that I've always found to be so incredibly fascinating. 564 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: I talk about it on my show sometimes. You see, 565 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: you've talked about how miserable these feminists are, how they're 566 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: drugged out, They're miserable, they hate themselves, they hate everything 567 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: around them. So why do young women when they look 568 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: at someone like you and then they look at a 569 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: miserable feminist. 570 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: Why choose that path? 571 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like there's happy ones a freaking 572 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: miserable with crew cuts and sue boots and scream and 573 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: all the freaking time and add are all scripts. 574 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: They're all miserable. 575 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: Why would you choose that past just for your own 576 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: happiness if you're a young lady, Why walk down the 577 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: road where everyone on the road hates themselves? 578 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 8: Well, you know, I think it's easy to dump on 579 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 8: this generation of young women for that, Jesse, but I 580 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 8: want to actually turn the focus back on those of 581 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 8: us on the right and within the church who know 582 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 8: the truth and have been reticent and shy about speaking 583 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 8: it because it's culturally unpopular or uncomfortable. So, you know, 584 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 8: we have had church leaders who instead of acknowledging we 585 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 8: have an incredibly feminized culture now that is dominated by 586 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 8: women in just about every field. You know. You look 587 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 8: at women now earning the majority of PhDs, the majority 588 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 8: of degrees. They are dominating the medical field, the legal field, 589 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 8: just any center of power is now tending to be 590 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 8: female dominated. 591 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 6: And the church's answer to that has. 592 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 8: Been to stand up and say, how can we mirror 593 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 8: that and discuss how we're going to put women in 594 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 8: positions of power as well, instead of speaking truth and saying, women, 595 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 8: this is not the thing that is going to bring 596 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 8: you your highest level of happiness and life satisfaction. 597 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 6: So the church has been unwilling to say that. 598 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 8: And then you look at the GOP and the political right, 599 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 8: and they have been unwilling to talk about the kinds 600 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 8: of solutions that would satisfy that created order of what 601 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 8: women are designed to be. 602 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 6: Instead, what they offer is just. 603 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 8: Sort of a bud light version of the full beer 604 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 8: that the Democrats are offering. I think that's a significant 605 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 8: problem too. You cannot convince women of the truth if 606 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 8: no one is willing to speak it. 607 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: It's pretty well said. You know what. We're signing off 608 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 2: with that because I can't top that. Megan. 609 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: I appreciate you very much. Go buy her book Shepherds 610 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: for Sale. It's very very good, Megan, Thank you. 611 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 2: Appreciate you. All Right, we're going to talk to a 612 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: pastor who's done afraid to speak the truth. Next. 613 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: Vietnam was obviously really controversial time in our country. 614 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: And I don't know about you. 615 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: I hold Vietnam veterans in such high regard for all 616 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: the terrible things they had to go through, and to 617 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: be honest, if you talk to them, they still go 618 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: through today, still ravages their mind today. Did you know 619 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: that the CEO of Puretalk, he did two tours with 620 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: Mac Vsog in Vietnam. You realize that, why is this 621 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: patriotic cell phone company, this mobile company? Why do they 622 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: hire Americans? No one does that. They did it long 623 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: before hiring Americans was cool. You call Pure Talking, you're 624 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 1: talking to an American. They are American, as American as 625 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: apple pie. They believe in this country, the Red, White, 626 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: and Blue. They support veterans. And you'll pay less for 627 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: your sales service way less. You don't need Verizon at 628 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: and t or T mobile, go to Puretalk dot com, 629 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: slash Jesse TV. Have you ever looked around and said, 630 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: why is everything gay? 631 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 2: Now? It's awful. 632 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: You can't watch the news, you can't take your kids 633 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: to a new children's movie without a couple lesbians making 634 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: out in the park. Everything's freaking gay now. Well, maybe 635 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: because we as men shirked our duties and handed the 636 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: entire country over to women. Joining me now, Pastor Jay 637 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: Chase Davis, author of a wonderful book Offensive Christianity. Pastor, 638 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: it's easy to point fingers at women and say you 639 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: did this, you did this, But women are not. 640 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: Commanded to lead. We are commanded to lead. Why are 641 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 2: we not leading? 642 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 7: Well, it's been a long series of failures on the 643 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 7: part of men. And I don't say that to great 644 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 7: men or beat them down, but it is well overdue 645 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 7: time for men to kind of assert themselves. 646 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 2: And rise up. 647 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 7: That's what I talk about in my book, equipping men 648 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 7: on how to kind of regain their strength as men. 649 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 7: They're authority as men. Of course, what you and I 650 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 7: would and all Christians would agree on is that as 651 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 7: men lead, it's a blessing. This is not to the 652 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,959 Speaker 7: detriment of women. That's actually to love women, to help 653 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 7: them flourish as God designed them to flourish. And so 654 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 7: a lot of it has to do with a lot 655 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 7: of wicked ideology that has come up in the past 656 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 7: which has really demurred and suppressed the kind of masculine 657 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 7: agencies the way I describe it, the ability to assert oneself, 658 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 7: to enter into conflict. Men are are hardwired for aggression, 659 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 7: to go out and have ambition to try to conquer things. 660 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 7: This is the natural kind of way that God made men. 661 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 7: Now some of that, of course, has been corrupted by 662 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 7: the fault, and men can do great deeds of evil, 663 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 7: and so we as Christians believe that should be stopped 664 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 7: and we should not promote that. We should promote righteousness. 665 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 7: And so we want to encourage men to not give 666 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 7: into lies that they have no agency, that they can't 667 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 7: be asserd of. And unfortunately, too many Christian churches teach 668 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 7: a gospel, teach a version of the faith. It seems 669 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 7: like men aren't welcome, that men can't come in and thrive, 670 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 7: they're not educated on fatherhood, their responsibilities as a husband, 671 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 7: how to advance in the workplace, anything like that. Instead 672 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 7: of the taught a version of Christianity which basically teaches 673 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 7: men they need to become women, and the best and 674 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 7: more mature version of themselves would be as if they 675 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 7: could just adopt the feminine nature, be more inclusive, be 676 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 7: more empathetic, be more nurturing, and that's what it means 677 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 7: to be a good Christian. In fact, that goes so 678 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 7: far as to teach passive pacifism in these churches where 679 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 7: we can't even defend ourselves because apparently this is what 680 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 7: Jesus taught. He didn't but this is what they would 681 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 7: promote this kind of church. And so there's a lot 682 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,959 Speaker 7: of churches that need to take responsibility but also teach 683 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 7: the truth of God's work regarding the nature of men 684 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 7: and women, and particularly to men. Blaming our problems on 685 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 7: women is not going to be helpful. In fact, that's 686 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 7: part of what Adam did in the garden. We don't 687 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 7: want to blame women. 688 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 2: It's easy. 689 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 7: And I see this going around sometimes online in other places, 690 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 7: like you know, you know, it's the women's fault and 691 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 7: a woman's fault, and we just you know, if they 692 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 7: could do better, and it's like sure, I bet they 693 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 7: have issues, and we know they have issues that they 694 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,720 Speaker 7: need to deal with. But if men can simply assert 695 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 7: themselves and recover their kind of biblical understanding of what 696 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 7: it means to be a man and get involved and 697 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 7: go on offense for the truth of God, then things 698 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 7: will radically change. We need to discard a vision of 699 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 7: manhood which teaches them that they're either toxic, they're defunct, 700 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 7: that they're the very natures that make the men are 701 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 7: somehow Unchristian. 702 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: Pastor, what would you say to a man right now? 703 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: Bec so, I'm certain they are out there who feels weak, 704 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: feels like he's not strong enough to stand up to 705 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,959 Speaker 1: all this, and it wants to change. 706 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 2: And of course it's inside of him, that's how God 707 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: made him. 708 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: But he doesn't even know where to begin. Can you 709 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: give him some guidance, some biblical guidance. 710 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 7: Absolutely. The first thing you must do is get right 711 00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 7: with your Lord and savior, Jesus Christ. That is like 712 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 7: a fundamental I'm a pastor, that is what I'm going 713 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 7: to promote and preach. You've got to get right with 714 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 7: their Lord and save Jesus Christ by dying to sin 715 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 7: and being raised to a new life. You need to 716 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 7: put your faith in Christ and repent of your disobedience, 717 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 7: because part of being a man is taking responsibility. You 718 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 7: have to be able to take responsibility for how you've 719 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 7: displeased the Lord in unrighteousness and aim to please him 720 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 7: in your life. Of course, out of that flows action. 721 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 7: We are to be men of action. In my book 722 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 7: and other places I get into this, I say, look, men, 723 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 7: we need to be action oriented. We need to have agency, 724 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 7: and part of that is going to be having agency 725 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 7: over our veried bodies. And so a lot of times, 726 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 7: I mean, you talk to any guy who started working 727 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 7: out or getting into fitness. It can be very hard, 728 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 7: intimidating to get into these activities. But I think it's 729 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 7: crucial for the development of the soul of men to 730 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 7: be fit, to be healthy, to not be obese, to 731 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 7: not be lazy in a glutton. We need to get 732 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 7: men active again. They need to be working out, getting 733 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 7: involved in physical activity. Many men are set intary today. 734 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 7: They're bored by their jobs. They're sitting in front of screens. 735 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 7: It's not inspiring. An easy way to do that is 736 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 7: to get in the gym, get strong. And what we 737 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 7: find actually in social science studies and physiological studies is 738 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 7: that as you work out, as you develop that competency 739 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 7: that actually leads to better life outcomes, not just physically 740 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,479 Speaker 7: but mentally, more mental clarity, less depression, and you begin 741 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 7: to have a view of life that's less passive. And 742 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 7: I think for a lot of men, they just feel like, 743 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 7: all this is happening around me, What can I do? 744 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 7: I have no control. That's the exact wrong attitude to 745 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 7: have as men. As Christian men, we have an attitude 746 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 7: of what does God giving me the steward and I'm 747 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 7: going to maximize the profits on that to the best 748 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 7: of my abilities. Jesus always rebukes the one who buries 749 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 7: his talents because he's passive and he's scared and he 750 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 7: doesn't know what to do. He rewards the one who invests, 751 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 7: who advances, and who builds the kingdom wherever he goes. 752 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 7: And so, whether you have lots of influence or little influence, 753 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 7: the best thing you can do today is take action. 754 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 7: Stop ruminating, and stop having all these grat's about I 755 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 7: wish I could have done this differently, or what can 756 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 7: I do? Get up off the sofa, work out, go 757 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 7: bench press, do a push up, do something, get active 758 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 7: and then start leading your family. Simple ways to lead 759 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 7: your family and family worship. I mean that can be 760 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 7: scary for a man who may not know his Bible. 761 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 7: But simply reading the Bible out loud, praying for your 762 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 7: family and over your family, and then leading them in 763 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 7: a song like Amazing Grace or something like this. This 764 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 7: is a simple way to lead your family spiritually because 765 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 7: your family needs that. They long for that presence from you, 766 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 7: and you can just do these simple activities and reject 767 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 7: kind of the fear of rejection that a lot of 768 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 7: men have. They're afraid what if I'm being confident? You 769 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 7: know what if I embarrass myself? Get over it. We 770 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 7: need to be men. Yeah, you may make a fool 771 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 7: of yourself. Why shouldn't we be worried about this. We 772 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 7: need to live according to God's word to advance his 773 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 7: kingdom in every possible avenue. 774 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 1: Hey, I make a fool of myself every day. Doesn't 775 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 1: stop me. Pastor, I appreciate you very much. His book 776 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: is offensive Christianity. I would highly recommend it. We have 777 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: a light in the mood. Will enjoy next. All Right, 778 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: So that's that's a lot of talk about feminism and 779 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: things like that. But that might lead you to believe 780 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: that I don't support women. Well, I attended you remember 781 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: Women's March, that big feminist movement. Maybe you don't remember this. 782 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 2: I love you. 783 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: Run for president please right now, thank you, thank you 784 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: so much. 785 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: He's going down tonight. 786 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 7: Tell me how many women are going to die for 787 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 7: the Senate concerns. 788 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 2: I have no idea how many women? 789 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 6: Well do what about minorities? 790 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 9: You can take the stand and don't hand Yeah, oh gosh, 791 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,240 Speaker 9: work people. 792 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 6: Probably a man can't. 793 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 2: Right, They not talk to him. 794 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,439 Speaker 6: This is Jesse Kelly. He said he's undercovered. He tweeted here, 795 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 6: I'm undercovered. Conservative fuck Conservative radio. 796 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 2: It appears on talking to. 797 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 6: This man is a liar. He's moping. Okay, he is 798 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 6: pretending to be a protester. 799 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 5: Women. 800 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,479 Speaker 6: We will not allow him to go. 801 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 2: Undercover and the one of us and take our. 802 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 6: Words out of context. 803 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 2: This is Jesse Kelly. 804 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 6: He's a drunk talk word cloud. 805 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 9: Do not talk to this. 806 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 6: Cloud Twitter. 807 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 9: Who take a stand and don't hand. 808 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: This bus right here behind me is literally killing the 809 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: Eskimo today. 810 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 2: That is correct. That's what Trump twenty twenty look like, 811 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 2: and that's what Trump Boy looks like. Right there. 812 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 8: It is rushing count moistless gas, heating up the atmosphere. 813 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 2: And talking the polars. The poles do. 814 00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 6: Not h that's my senators, because. 815 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 2: I have a right to You have a right to 816 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 2: be there. That's your statement. Yes. 817 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Do you feel like she objectified you? 818 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 6: I feel like I'm not. 819 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, you're right, she's not listening to you. 820 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 2: It's pathetic trouble. That's suitable