1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: Cut booms. 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 2: of the old Republic, a sol fastion of fairness. He 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. Wow to clearinghouse of 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth Hour 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: with Ben Mahller starts right now in. 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: The air everywhere The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben Mahler 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: and Danny g Radio. A happy Saturday to you as 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 3: we are recording this early in the morning. You listen 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: whenever you want. You don't have to listen today. Obviously 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 3: a lot of people listen throughout the week. But we 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 3: are here early on a Saturday, as the NFL will 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: continue tomorrow. We had Shade Jogis Alexander mess with the 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: basketball gods. I guess that was the story that would 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: have been a monologue last night. He talked about the 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: thunder trying to set the record for wins and people 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: up in arms. 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 1: You're messing with the basketball gods? What are you doing? 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: You know, all that nonsense. We will not talk about 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: that here. 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: Instead, on this podcast, we have the choice love train true, 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: and in addition to that, we will have time permitting 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: the phrase of the week. But we begin with this, 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: there is a truth that does not require sources. 27 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: There's a truth that does not require sources. 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 3: You don't need analytics, you don't need somebody who's verified 29 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: on social media, you don't need one of those big 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: daytime people. Listen, there's a difference, and we've talked about 31 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: this a lot over the last couple of years on 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: this podcast, and it's not a slight difference between daytime 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: sports radio and nighttime sports radio. It's not a moderate upgrade. 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: It's not a slightly better ZIP code. It's a totally 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 3: different ecosystem. The operation during the day it's like Planet 36 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 3: per Dium. You get SUVs with tinted windows that pick 37 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: you up and take you to work. You've got private 38 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: garages and security guards that outnumber producers and just just 39 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 3: all that. 40 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: All that. 41 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 3: The daytime guys broadcasts from gated communities with hedge hedges 42 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: that are manicured with precision, and they've got people that 43 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: look out for them and all that stuff. They have 44 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: parking spots that are reserved for them, and all that stuff. 45 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: Now when you do the overnight show. We fend for ourselves. 46 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 3: We fend for ourselves. It's a badge of honor. 47 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: Right. We travel light. 48 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: We don't have an entourage, we don't have seven producers, 49 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: and all of our travel paid for, and all that 50 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: we live dangerously. For example, the male praying that the 51 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 3: check engine light is merely decorative. In fact, this weekend, 52 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: the malamobile is sitting in a repair shop as we 53 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: speak right now. More on that later, which brings me 54 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: to earlier in the week. Sofi Stadium, or as it 55 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: is affectionately called by our friend, Sofa stadium, because it 56 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 3: looks like something you'd recline on while watching a rerun 57 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: of House Hunters, or you just don't know how to 58 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: pronounce so far. 59 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: So just it looks like it might be sofas it's 60 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: called sofa. 61 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: It's proudly in Inglewood, in the hood and up to 62 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: no good, a neighborhood that blends clamor grit like a 63 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: cocktail that shouldn't work but somehow does. And I was there. 64 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: I was there from Monday night football last week. The 65 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: Philadelphia football team was in town to take on the Chargers, and, 66 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: as is the normal case, I have to leave early 67 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: to beat the traffic. So as the fourth quarter began, 68 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: I did what every overnight sports talk radio host who 69 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: attends games has to do. 70 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: I left early. 71 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: Not out of disrespect, not trying to mess with the 72 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: football gods, but out of survival. There is a show 73 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: to do and the commute I must endure. And because 74 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 3: of the circadian rhythm that I have and being up 75 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: all night and actually having to be on time. One 76 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: of the things about these jobs you can't be late. 77 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: You can't be late. You got to be when the 78 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: show starts at a certain time. You can't push it back, 79 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: be like I'll be there ten minutes later. No, no, 80 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 3: you got to be there when it starts. So as 81 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 3: I exited so Fi or Sofa Stadium through the VIP 82 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: media entrance, I was immediately confronted with what we call 83 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: the choice. I was confronted with the choice. Some would say, 84 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: it's a fourk in the road now number one. Option 85 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 3: Number one was I could turn right now. If you 86 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: turn right, I had a short walk to the malmobile 87 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: safety predictability. Those were all the options on Option one 88 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: to the right now. Option two was to the left. 89 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: That was a much longer walk. That would have taken 90 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: me past the NFL Network studios and past the old 91 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: Great Western Forum where it's called something else now, but 92 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: the Lakers used to play and the Kings played there 93 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: back in the day. So option two left turn longer 94 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: walk past the NFL Network, possibly also the Forum. 95 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: As I said, and if the stars. 96 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: Were to align, there would be a run in with 97 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: a man known as Helmet Man, a character on the show. 98 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: Now for those that are somehow unfamiliar with the legend 99 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: that is Helmet Man, and shame on you if you are, 100 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 3: it's a bad job by you. He is not merely 101 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: a character in the Malard militia. He is an institution, 102 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 3: Helmet Man. I have known this man since the nineteen nineties. 103 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: It's been a generation plus that I've known Helmet Man 104 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: back when local radio was loud and unfiltered and gave 105 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: strong opinions, even criticized the local teams right and was 106 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: one bad caller away from FCC intervention. Not now where 107 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 3: it's grab ass and rah rah and all that. Now, 108 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 3: Helmet Man is from Baltimore. And if you didn't know 109 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: Helmet Man was from Baltimore, you just have to run 110 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: into him wearing his Oriole stuff or his Raven stuff 111 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: or whatever. And when I say he's from Baltimore, not 112 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: just casually, it's like a religious situation for Helmet Man. 113 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: The man famously once appeared. I ran into him downtown 114 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: Los Angeles, just adjacent to skid Row at the arena 115 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: formerly known as Staples Center, and he was wearing a 116 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: full Baltimore Orioles uniform, not just the jersey, not a hat, 117 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 3: the uniform, batting gloves, he had the helmet. He was 118 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 3: doing cal Ripken cosplay, and it was as if Camden 119 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: Yards had sprouted legs and wandered to the West Coast 120 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: and he was waiting to go into the batter's box 121 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: for the Orioles. So Helmet Man, let's just say he's 122 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: semi retired. He does sell memorabilia. He sells what some 123 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 3: would call crap, other people would say very valuable items. 124 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: At least the items strongly resemble memorabilia. 125 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if they actually are or not. 126 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: But outside of NFL network, and he's called into the 127 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: Overnight Show a few times, he always says, well, are 128 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: you going to be at the game, And I'm like, well, 129 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, if I'll be at the game. And 130 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: then I said, well I'll be at the game, and 131 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: say okay, I'm gonna be there. And so think of 132 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: helmet Man as a roaming museum gift shop. There is 133 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: no return policy. He only takes cash, and the often, 134 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: you know, he often tis of the items. It's questionable. 135 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: So naturally, again we go back to the choice. I 136 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: had option one, option two I chose. Naturally, I chose 137 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: option number two. And Overnight Radio trains you to embrace 138 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: the absurd, and we love it. We look forward to 139 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: it that the daytime shows take calls from Steven Scott 140 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: style and let's go to Mikensan Francisco the overnight talk show. 141 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: Though we get mouthwash Mike telling us how he's been 142 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: banned from all the MGM properties and all the Caesars properties, 143 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 3: and yet he wants to go swimming through the fountains 144 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: at the Belagio. That's mouthwash Mike, right, followed by a 145 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: call from Jet who fled Who's calling from a shed 146 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 3: whispering about some nonsense and then dropping Glenn Beck's name 147 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 3: in while listening to a police scanner hoping not to 148 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 3: get caught. You don't avoid the weirdness. You kind of 149 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: lean into it. You got to lean into it when 150 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: you do night show. So I started walking and walking. 151 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: So I walked out of the gate I was supposed 152 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: to be at. I made the left turn. I walked 153 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 3: down about one hundred yards and then I had to 154 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: make another turn. I had to turn left. So then 155 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: I turned left, and I kept walking and walking and 156 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: walking and walking. It felt less like leaving a stadium 157 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: and more like wandering the Sahara Desert, except instead of 158 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: sand dunes, I was surrounded by hot dog vendors rhythmically 159 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: tapping their grills, chanting hot TC, hot Doc, got Doc, 160 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: Hot Doc. The bacon wrapped hot dog, a staple, that 161 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 3: sausage that glistened under the fluorescent lights of these little carts, 162 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: just a staple of southern California. 163 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,479 Speaker 1: Go into sport events, and the smell kind of clung. 164 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: In the air. 165 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 3: It was like a at tax almost. You could smell 166 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: the tacks and you're like trying to tempt you to 167 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: get one of their hot dogs. 168 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: So I passed by those people. I kept going. I walked, 169 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: I walked, I walked. 170 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 3: I passed a couple of dumpsters, and I did not 171 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: realize this at the time, but I was given a show. 172 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: It was a walk in a show. 173 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: So I'm going past the dumpsters and I got our 174 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 3: own Olympic diving. Someone call it dumpster diving. And these 175 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: men dove in there with the grace of a gymnast, 176 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: chasing recyclable glory. It was gritty, it was chaotic, it 177 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: was dirty, it was smelly. It was unmistakably la or 178 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: in this case, in the hood in Inglewood. Now I 179 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 3: am happy to report that eventually I did reach the 180 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: NFL network building, the Promised Land, and I saw the 181 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: logo right there, the propaganda arm of the NFL, the 182 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: state sponsored media, all that. So I looked at it 183 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: to the left. I then went to the right. I 184 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 3: went back to the left. I went back to the 185 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 3: right and pressed DOW. What did I see? A whole 186 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 3: giant bag of nothing. A whole giant bag of nothing. 187 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: Zippo helmet Man was nowhere to be found. Now I 188 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 3: carefully planned game. I again had a fork in the road. 189 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 3: I go right, go left, I went left, and yeah, 190 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: the spin off of Where's Waldo and it's Where's helmet Man? 191 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: Had collapsed. There was no helmet man. There was no 192 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: man wearing orio gear, no rogue memorabilia merchant in the 193 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: night lurking in the shadows. Nope, my plan was foiled 194 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: yet again. So I turned back. I found the malamobile 195 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: and began the nightly pilgrimage to the palatial studios just 196 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 3: down the hill from bel Air in beautiful Sherman Oaks, California. 197 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: A phrase that sounds luxurious until you're circling the parking 198 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: lot in the middle of the night. 199 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: So inside the studio I made it safely. 200 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 3: I was continuing my copious amounts of preparation for the 201 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 3: over show, and I watched the final moments of the 202 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: Monday night football game that did go to overtime, overtime 203 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: before the Chargers pulled it off. 204 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: Very nice of Jane on Hurst to turn the ball 205 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: over five times in that game. So that was that. 206 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: I watched the end of the Monday night game getting 207 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: ready for my show, kind of calm, quiet and the 208 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 3: just mellowness before the madness, the mellowness before the madness. 209 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: So then I get a call on my phone and 210 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: as I don't know who that is, and I answer 211 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: the phone and say it's Ben. Hey, is this Ben Mahler. 212 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: It's helmet Man on the other month, I said, of 213 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: course it was. Of course it was. Come on, helmet Man, 214 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: you know you called me. What do you think somebody 215 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: else is gonna answer my phone? All right, so you 216 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 3: realize you're like the only guy left that uses that technology. Yeah, 217 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: what do you think about the oil? That is a 218 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 3: classic line, helmet man, We just got a new drop, 219 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: so I answered immediately, and then was interrogated. And then 220 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: I interrogated him. That's what seasoned detectives do. He asked 221 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: where I was. I said, what do you mean where 222 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: I was? You told me you were going to be 223 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: outside the NFL Network building. You were not there, and 224 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 3: he sighed and he said you know because I said 225 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: what happened? And helmet Man says, I didn't make it 226 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: to the game. I said, I know that I was there. 227 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: I didn't see you, So why didn't you make it 228 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: the game? And then came the most helmet man answer imaginable. 229 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: He said, in a straight, dead pan delivery, I was 230 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: in the shower. What he said, I got in the shower, 231 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 3: and he said he stayed for roughly ninety minutes and 232 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: he missed the bus that he was supposed to. Apparently 233 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: he doesn't live right next I thought he lived right 234 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:00,119 Speaker 3: next to Sofia. 235 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: He does not. 236 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: He takes a bus there. He missed the bus. So 237 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: ninety minutes. Let me remind it, ninety minutes to do something. 238 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: Most people doing about two minutes ninety minute shower and 239 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: the rest of us are able to navigate this shower 240 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: and a limited amount of time. But Helmet Man, he 241 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: was like marinating like a human tea bag in the shower, 242 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: and that right. 243 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: There is what we do. That is the type that 244 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: we get. 245 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 3: Helmet Man in the shower for ninety minutes, even though 246 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: he'd said on the air's like I got to meet you. 247 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: I want to meet you right in from the NFL network. Okay, fine, 248 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: we'll do it. 249 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm actually on the live air. Yes you're on the. 250 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: And there we were, so and listen. I would not 251 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: trade this for anything. 252 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: I love it. 253 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 3: I have a great time with the people that are 254 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 3: characters on the show, and. 255 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: The fact that it's just real. It's just different, right, 256 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: It's raw. 257 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: It's the wild wild West of podcasting, populated by night 258 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: shift workers and zombiacs, truck drivers, conspiracy theorists, loyal foot 259 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: soldiers in the malord militia and beyond. 260 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: And it's a. 261 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: Little community, little community bonded not by the ratings, not 262 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: by contract bonuses or even any raises at all, not 263 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: by valet parking, not by being sent on trips on 264 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: the company dime. 265 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: No no, no, by shared chaos. 266 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: The daytime guys they get all the gadgets and the 267 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: gizmos and the dew hickeys, and they get their ass 268 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: kissed and all that stuff. But we have recurring characters 269 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: who disappear for ninety minutes or longer to take a shower. 270 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: You'd think this would be the cleanest person in the world. 271 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: It's not. 272 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: And somewhere in all of this madness, a new holiday 273 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: tradition was born. Forget the hottest gadget, forget the AI toaster, 274 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: forget whatever the tech people in. 275 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: Northern California are selling you this week. 276 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: The hottest gift for kids this Christmas, Sitting proudly atop 277 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: Santa's wish list is Where's Waldo two point zero? 278 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: The helmet Man addition. 279 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: Now it's the same premise, all right, the same premise, 280 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: but it's a much tougher game. Instead of a striped shirt. 281 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: Instead of striped shirt. You're searching for a roaming Baltimore 282 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: sports logo like an oriole hat or a raven ad 283 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: something along night along those lines. Who may or may 284 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: not be wearing a full uniform, you never know, and 285 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: may or may not be selling quote authentic memorabilia, and 286 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: may or may not be stuck in the shower while 287 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 3: the rest of the world is at the stadium. So 288 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 3: the difficulty level on the new game here, Where's Waldo? 289 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: The two point zero the Helmet Man Edition? The difficulty 290 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: level is extreme, The odds are long, the payoff pure 291 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: overnight radio bliss underpast the chanting hot dog vendors, hot Dog, 292 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 3: hot Dog, hot Dog, hot Dog. You dodge dumpster divers, 293 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: You circle NFL Network like a detective under flickering lights, 294 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: and just when you think you've lost the phone rings, 295 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: it's helmet Man. He wasn't there, he was never there, 296 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 3: but somehow he still wins. 297 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: See that is overnight. 298 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 3: Radio in a nutshell, a world that again, the daytime 299 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: guys will just never understand. They don't get it. And 300 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: where's helmet Man exactly? That's the point. Where is Helmet Man? 301 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: All right? Now turning the page on that I was. 302 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: I didn't want to mention this story because we talk 303 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 3: about the life of Mather, a life of. 304 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: Danny g when Danny joins us every once in a while. 305 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 3: But I was summoned. I was summoned to the Inland Empire. 306 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 3: If you're not familiar with the geography of southern California, 307 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 3: it's called the Inland Empire for a reason. You spend 308 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: about five hours in traffic to get there. So this 309 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 3: was last weekend, and I was not subpoened. Normally people 310 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: go to that part of town because you're subpoened. I 311 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 3: wasn't extradited. I was requested. And there's a difference between 312 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: being subpoened, extradited, and requested. When your presence is requested 313 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 3: for a concert featuring the OJS, the Commodores and Sister Sledge, 314 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 3: you don't ask any follow up questions, You don't check 315 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 3: the weather. 316 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: You just hop in the malamobile. 317 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 3: You load up the wife and your caravan, and you 318 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: get out there and meet a bunch of her coworkers, 319 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: and you point yourself towards Ontario like you're chasing the 320 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: final clue in a late night scavenger hunt. So the 321 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 3: marketing copy that I was given for this shindig promised 322 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 3: timeless hits, unforgettable music, which is always interesting phrasing. 323 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: I always interesting. 324 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 3: Phrasing because if something is truly timeless, if I have 325 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 3: somebody's timeless, it technically shouldn't need to be remembered. It 326 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 3: should just exist, like gravity, for example, or Costco's rotisserie chickens. 327 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 3: They just exist. There's no rhyme or reason. They just 328 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 3: happen to exist. And if you're new to the mal 329 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: Ard militia or relatively new, here's the thing about me 330 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: and music. I was not born with the music gene. 331 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: I am deficient in the music gene. I like music. 332 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 3: I listen to music, however, it's mostly like wallpaper. It 333 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: kind of fills up space. I respond to rhythm, to 334 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: the beat, to the vibe. I respond to that. Lyrics 335 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 3: are often just syllables writing shotgun and a lot of 336 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: people in my life love the lyrics and they love 337 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 3: to remember the lyrics. With rare exceptions, I don't. Johnny Cash, 338 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 3: for example, would be one the man in Black. I 339 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 3: hear words that he says and I just know the lyrics. 340 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm being told the story, not just 341 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 3: a nudge into the mood. So again, walking into this 342 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 3: concert hall, it felt like an odd juxtaposition. It did, 343 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 3: because there are groups whose songs I have referenced. 344 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: These groups, are you know? 345 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: I've referenced these songs regularly over the years on the 346 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 3: radio show, but mostly as linguistic tools. If you haven't 347 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: figured out by now, and I'm putting together a monologue, 348 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: I put bullet points together. But one of the things 349 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 3: I like to do is spice it up a little 350 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: Kayenne Pepper and their little Hallapano. And so something strange happened. 351 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 3: As I was settling into my seat to watch all 352 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 3: of these old school groups get together. 353 00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: It hit me. 354 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: That not emotionally like a Pixar moment. It wasn't one 355 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: of those things, not intellectually like realizing you've been unknowingly 356 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: speaking these tunes your entire life. I was there for nostalgia. 357 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 3: I was there for I guess recognition. I don't know 358 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: if that's the right word. But for example, take the Commodores, 359 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 3: and that is a group it was very popular million 360 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 3: years ago. I have used brick House forever. A team 361 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 3: does not shoot the ball well on a given night 362 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 3: in the NBA. 363 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: They are a break house. 364 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 3: I've done that, a team clanking jumpers like they've been 365 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: sponsored by a home depot, brick house. And they have 366 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 3: another song, the Commodore's Night Shift. Now that's not just 367 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: a song, that is a that's kind of the soundtrack 368 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 3: of my life. That that's me driving through the north 369 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 3: Woods at three forty in the morning, whatever it might be, 370 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: living life on vampire hours, doing radio while the rest 371 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 3: of the world snores. Some even call up to snore, 372 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: like hollering James. So I didn't learn those things. I 373 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 3: absorbed them and they became part of my language. Same 374 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: for the Ojs. Not that oj he's dead, but the Ojays, 375 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 3: another old school group. They came up with the tune 376 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: love Train True True, and that is a recurring bit. 377 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 3: We talk about Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift. They're on 378 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: the love train. True Yeah, I love train pulling into 379 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 3: the station, a locker room romance. 380 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: All of the above and sunshine. 381 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: That's the sonic equivalent of saying a team had good vibes, 382 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 3: good juju, solar powered optimism, and you don't analyze it, 383 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: you just kind of deployed. Then there is cis Sledge 384 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: now Price, I don't care about Sisters Sledge. I don't 385 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: even know what that is. Well, one of their songs 386 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: was amazing back in the day. It was that we 387 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: are familyite, we are family Now. I have used that 388 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 3: phrase so many times it might as well be stamped 389 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 3: on my forehead. And teams who are really clicking, like 390 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma State really clicking for the most part. 391 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: Right. 392 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: The word that people love to use because there's no 393 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 3: way to debunk it is chemistry and that and so 394 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: we are family not just a song. It's a shorthanded cohesion. 395 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: It's for harmony, for vibes, all that. 396 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 3: And yes, it was in the late nineteen seventies the 397 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 3: soundtrack for the Pittsburg Pirates the Buckos, which means it lives. 398 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: It does live at the intersection of sports, music and mythology. 399 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: The late great Dave Parker. 400 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 3: Parker was part of this podcast and was part of 401 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 3: the Pirates in the late nineteen seventies and all that stuff. 402 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: So listen, that matters. Context matters as well. And here's 403 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: the fun fact that grounded the whole week. And I 404 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 3: love I love this because I was like, I was 405 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: like well, these guys are all. 406 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: New members of the Commodorees and the ojs. 407 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 3: Well not so fast, my friend, This guy, William King, 408 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: the trumpet player and co founder of the Commodores, happened 409 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 3: to be there and happened to be performing the only 410 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 3: original founding members still performing since the nineteen sixties. That 411 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 3: is not nostalgia. That is con continuity or whatever the 412 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: word is. And he's like, guy's like a living artifact, 413 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: is what I'm trying to say. It's like seeing a 414 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: handwritten copy of the Constitution. And my goodness, and suddenly 415 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: I realized something somewhat upset, upsettling or unsettling, I should 416 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: say unsettling. 417 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: That these songs phones were not just background music. 418 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 3: It was really again I go back to the point 419 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 3: I made, It was infrastructure that they have shaped so 420 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 3: much of. 421 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: How I have talked. 422 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 3: And again I'm not the biggest music guy and all 423 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 3: that stuff, but how I frame monologues, how I explain 424 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: sports to people who don't really like sports, and I 425 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: try to mix in different references to keep people engaged 426 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 3: that aren't sports people. And I've been using those tracks 427 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: the way a philosopher uses a metaphor, a comedian used 428 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 3: callbacks and all that stuff. It's just part of the 429 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 3: operating system. So I didn't go out to the ie 430 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 3: as they call it. 431 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: I went there. 432 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: I didn't go there to rediscover music. I just went 433 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 3: out there and realized that I have been unknowingly carrying 434 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: these tunes in my head for some time. And the 435 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 3: groups were all great. It was a lot of fun. So, yeah, 436 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 3: I still don't have the music gene. I don't want 437 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: you well know you're a music guy, but no I'm not. 438 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 3: I still don't have the music gene. I probably never 439 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 3: will at this point. But standing there in Ontario, surrounded 440 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 3: by songs and groups that I'd kind of heard of 441 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 3: in the past, I was like, oh, that's pretty cool. 442 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 3: That's pretty And so sometimes the soundtrack isn't there to 443 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 3: move you, it's there to explain you. And that's not nostalgia. 444 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 3: That's the love train you're always having, you know, always 445 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: always having that available to you. 446 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: And I guess it's left the station and all that stuff, 447 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: and there you go. 448 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: So that was my weekend a week ago, as we 449 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: had a grand old time with a couple of old groups, 450 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: the OJ's and the Commodorees and sister Sledge. 451 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: And and all that time. Now though for the phrase 452 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: of the week. 453 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: That's right, the phrase of the week, and this from 454 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 3: Scott in Florida. He says, what about the phrase rules 455 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 3: are made to be broken? Okay, well that's a magical moment. Now, 456 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 3: this phrase is very old, very old. It was popularized 457 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 3: by war hero General Douglas MacArthur. General Douglas MacArthur famously 458 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 3: said rules are mostly made to be broken and are 459 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 3: too often for the lazy to hide behind. And so 460 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: that was that that quote, which is not even one 461 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 3: hundred years old, that goes back to like the nineteen 462 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: fifties MacArthur, General MacArthur popularized the phrase. However, it was 463 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 3: already present in the proverbs of the time. 464 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't new. 465 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 3: The sentiment is older than any single source, and so 466 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 3: I tried to find exactly who did they credit General 467 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: MacArthur for the modern use of the phrase. 468 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 1: For the modern usage, and it's. 469 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 3: Seen as a rebellious like a justification for bending the 470 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: rules and going full cheating astro. 471 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: Now it's not just General MacArthur. 472 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: Sam Walton, the founder of the Walmart chain, which has 473 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: become the largest for like twenty years. It's the largest 474 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 3: corporation in the world, just massive, and so. Sam Walton, 475 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 3: in his autobiography wrote that the most important rule in 476 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: business is to break all of the rules. He also 477 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 3: gave a preference to rule breakers when hiring employees, as 478 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 3: he considered them a superior worker for not just following 479 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: and doing the bare minimum, going above and beyond the 480 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: bare minimum. And many of the greatest scientists, many of 481 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 3: the greatest inventors engineers of American history also known as 482 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 3: rule breakers. Yeah, I know Henry Ford with his moving 483 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: assembly line and the welfare capitalism. The Wright brothers with 484 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 3: their fixed wing aircraft are a couple of examples of that, 485 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: where you know, sometimes you need to bend rules. Now 486 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 3: there are gray areas, what the astros. 487 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: Did is not a gray area. They're dirty dolls, dirty 488 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: dirty dort dorty dolls. 489 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 3: So the phrase of the week again, rules are made 490 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 3: to be broken, which the modern usage is credited to 491 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: General Douglas MacArthur. However, it goes way back before that, 492 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: way back. There's no one person that is being credited 493 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 3: because it goes a million. 494 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: Years back in time. All right, we'll get out on that. 495 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 3: Have a wonderful st enjoy whatever you're up to today 496 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 3: and Daniel joined me for the Mailbag on Sunday on 497 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 3: that edition of the podcast, Have a Wonderful Saturday to 498 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 3: be part of God. 499 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: What's it been about the Wizard about Folation