1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Would you like it if you gave up a few 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: home runs or whatever the case might be, and guys 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: were doing that to you in the dugout or acting 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: like that. 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: Ken Rosendal here with a lot of rizzo, and we've 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: got a lot to talk about, not just the deadline, 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: not just maybe even all star selections. 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice to have something else besides who's buying 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: and who's selling to talk about. Ken, great to be 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 3: with you as always on Fair Territory. Don't forget to 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: get your questions in for Grill and Ken as we 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: load up the chat so you can have the opportunity 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,279 Speaker 3: to ask Ken a question. But to your point, Ken, 15 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: there's a lot to talk about. As we get to 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: the lead and we're talking about two different Triple Crown races, 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 3: one in each league, things are getting interesting. 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: To say the least. And keep in mind we have 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: not had a triple Crown a winner in batting, average, carriage, 20 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: homes and RBIs in a single league since Miguel Cabrera 21 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, and his was the first since Kryostreemsky 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty seven, So this is a rare thing. 23 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 2: I'll get into all the questions statistical analysts are going 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: to have about these achievements in a second, but first 25 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: let's look just at what Aaron Judge is doing in 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: the American League and show how Otani is doing in 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 2: the National League. Let's start with Judge, because this is 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: amazing what he's doing, especially considering his April, which was 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: not good. Leads in average, leads in home runs, leads 30 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: in RBIs also for the statistically inclined crowd that prefers 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: rate stats, that prefers to see other things besides counting numbers. 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: He's also first and on base, and he's also first 33 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: in slugging. Triple crown winner, triple slash winner, whatever you 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: want to call what he is doing is remarkable. Now 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: let's go to Otani. He is also on this same 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: kind of track. Both these guys. By the way, he 37 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: had home runs last night. Otani first NNL in average, 38 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: first in home runs, third in RBIs third in on base. 39 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: It's Molkie, Betts and Jerks and Profar ahead of him 40 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: in on base and first in slugging. So both these guys, 41 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: Alana have a shot and in a depressed offensive era 42 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: or this particular season, it's all the more amazing to 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: see what they're doing. And on a nightly basis, they're 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: giving fans thrills. When these guys walk to the plate, 45 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: the stadium becomes rather electric. 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 3: They are appointment television for sure, Kenny. And what I 47 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 3: love about what Aaron Judge is doing and what Sho 48 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: hee o Tani is doing is that almost as if 49 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: they're doing it relatively quietly. It's almost as if there's 50 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: an expectation that these guys are going to put together 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 3: these numbers. 52 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: Yet they are exceeding those expectations. 53 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: And I believe that Judge is even ahead of the 54 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: pace where he had the sixty home runs a couple 55 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 3: of years ago, breaking the record as far as the 56 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: American League Home Run League was concerned. So he's having 57 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: an even better year. Is it possible, Ken, that we're 58 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: underrating both of these players? 59 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: Lit bit with regard to Otani, because of course, as 60 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: much as he is debated and talked about, in my opinion, 61 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 2: he's not talked about enough, And the same can probably 62 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: be said of Judge. Remember, as I said that March 63 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: April he had was not very good at all. There 64 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: are all these questions. Is the toe still bothering him? No, 65 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: he's fine, And what he is doing in a lineup 66 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: that behind him is not all that good. Mike Petriella 67 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: wrote about this yesterday on MLB dot Com. It's the 68 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 2: guys ahead of him that are giving him protections, so 69 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: to speak. It's not the guys behind him. And from 70 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: that perspective also it makes what he is accomplishing all 71 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: the more remarkable. It's kind of like Bonds when Bonds 72 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 2: was in his prime. Both these guys, when they get 73 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: their pitches to hit, they don't miss them. 74 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a guy that is number one in 75 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: any offensive category that matters. 76 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: They are both great for the game. 77 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: I'd love to see both of them in the home 78 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: run Derby, but that is for a conversation coming up 79 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: here on fair territory. Before we get to that, we 80 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: do have to have a little bit of trade talk, 81 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: of course. Is we're a few weeks away from the deadline, 82 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: can and let's start with the Saint Louis Cardinals, the 83 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: team a lot of people had written off up until 84 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: about a month ago, but they have had a positive 85 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: surge and it looked like they're going to be. 86 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: Buyers at this point, but it's perhaps the. 87 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: Reinforcements that they have coming back Ken that's going to 88 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: change the direction of of what moze Lock decides to do. 89 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 2: It's a really interesting position. They're in a lot and 90 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: now they're six out in the Anel Central, but they 91 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: hold a second wild card a game and a half 92 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: lead over the team that currently is fourth in that race, 93 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: the Mets. So they're in a good spot. And with 94 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: Tommy Edmund and Lars Nupark coming back, they become that 95 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: much more flexible with their roster. They can do some things, 96 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: maybe move some people off their roster in trades for 97 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: what they need, which is another starting pitcher. So the 98 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: Cardinals a team that some people pronounced as sellers early on, 99 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: I actually wasn't one of them. This time, they're not 100 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: going to be sellers. They're going to be buyers. And 101 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 2: what is interesting is can they turn guys like I 102 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: don't know, Dylan Carlson perhaps into something else. They have 103 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: Ivon Herrera coming off the injured list as well, giving 104 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: them a little bit more depth of catcher. They have 105 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: major league pieces to trade, and major league pieces in 106 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: this market are going to be valuable because with so 107 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: many teams in contention in this era of expanded playoffs, 108 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: teams are not going to want to give up necessarily 109 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: prospects or make certain kinds of moves. But if they 110 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: can fill a need with major leaguers from your club 111 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: and give you perhaps excess from their own, that is 112 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: going to be valuable. And for a team like the 113 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: Cardinals that have these pieces to trade, that is going 114 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: to be all the more important as we go forward. 115 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: Here with three wild cards in each league, can there's 116 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 3: a cluster when it comes to the wild card and 117 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 3: jockeying for position. The San Francisco Giants another team that 118 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: I believe needs to do something considering if they want 119 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: to compete in that National League West. However, perhaps they 120 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: don't have as many options as the Cardinals do. Do 121 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: you see them making any sort of splash? 122 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: I don't, but for a different kind of reason. Actually, 123 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: it's sort of similar to the Cardinals. With the Giants, 124 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: they too have a slew of players on the injured 125 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 2: list that are going to come off. The Cardinals have 126 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: only two, but the Giants have a number of players 127 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 2: that are going to come off who effectively will be 128 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: their deadline additions if they don't do anything else. Let's 129 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: look at some of those names, because it's a rather 130 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: interesting group, to say the least. Now, Mikey Streemsky is back, 131 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: he just came off the IL. The first four names here, 132 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: Kyle Harrison he'll be first, Blake Snell, Robbie Ray, and 133 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: Alex Cobb four starting pitchers now. Granted, Robbie Ray's coming 134 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 2: off elbow surgery. Cobs had a variety of issues. Who 135 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: knows what they're going to give you, And even with Snell, 136 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: you don't know exactly at this point. But Kyle Harrison's 137 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: been the legitimate starter. And from those four guys, you 138 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: should be able to cobble a better rotation together than 139 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: you've had in recent weeks, for sure. And also on 140 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: the position player side, Tyro Estrada and Wilma Flores, my goodness, 141 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 2: those are guys that they need. They've gotten your stremp 142 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: skied back. They're still not in a great place necessarily, 143 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: they're on the fringes of the wild card race. But 144 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: at the same time, Alana, they are a team that 145 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: I don't believe is going to sell, even though you 146 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: can make a case for that John Shay did in 147 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: the San Francisco Chronicle. They've invested a lot in this 148 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: season and they're going to keep pushing forward. 149 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: I really wish the Blake Snell situation would have turned 150 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: out better for them. I would have loved to have 151 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: seen him be able to compete there and see if 152 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: it would have been at least a little bit more 153 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: competitive in the National League West Ken there was a 154 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: trade already. The Tampa Bay Rays have parted ways with 155 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: Aaron Savally. He is now a member of the Milwaukee Brewers, 156 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: another team that's been decimated by injury. How the Brewers 157 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: are still a top of the NL Central with what 158 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: they've had to deal with is surprising. But what does 159 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: Savally do for them? 160 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: He gives them an established major league starter not having 161 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 2: a good year, There's no doubt about that. And if 162 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: you read the Athletics Trade Deadline Watch, you probably could 163 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: have seen this coming. Having their own pictures coming off 164 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: the IL fairly soon. It's Shane Baz and Jeffrey Springs 165 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: that gave them the ability to make a move with Savali. 166 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: Now the Brewers, we've also written in the Trade Deadline Watch, 167 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: are not going to be out there picking up the 168 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,559 Speaker 2: most expensive guys. But we've seen them add Dallas Kickel, 169 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: who gave them a good start last night, and now 170 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: we see them add Savali and who knows, perhaps the 171 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: change will do him good. This was a very competent 172 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: major league pitcher. The Rays gave up a lot to 173 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: get him. If you remember, com Anzarto, were top first 174 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: base prospect, but he struggled this year and now they 175 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: have these guys coming off the IL, so he was 176 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: expendable to them. They trade him for a minor league infielder. 177 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: Not much coming back. But at the same time, this 178 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: for the Brewers is the kind of piecemeal thing that 179 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: they've always done at the deadline. I believe they should 180 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: do a little bit more and get more aggressive, given 181 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: that they have a six game lead in the division 182 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: and are really primed here. But this is where they operate. 183 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: Yes, for some reason, it continues to work. They do 184 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: a lot with a little, and so far it's worked 185 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 3: for them. We'll see how far they can get into 186 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 3: the postseason. Obviously, I believe they're certainly going to get there. 187 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: Right as we make our way now to Grill and Ken, 188 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: don't forget to load up your questions in the chat 189 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: four Ken, But before I ask you that, I want 190 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 3: to ask you as we celebrate the holiday tomorrow, Fourth 191 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 3: of July to me, screams summer at screams baseball. But 192 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: is there a particular baseball related Fourth of July story 193 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: you wanted to share? 194 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: There is a lot. It's more a personal story than 195 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 2: anything great I saw on fourth of July. But July fourth, 196 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, ten years ago, I'm sitting in a hotel 197 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: in Walhington, DC, and I believe my wife was with me, 198 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: and I believe, if I'm not mistaken, we were supposed 199 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 2: to maybe go out and do something. No way. Of 200 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: course that didn't happen. That was the day and this 201 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: is a shocking thing to even think about now. The 202 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: Oakland A's were buyers and they got in a trade 203 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: from the Cubs Jeff Samarja Jason Hamill to pitchers, two 204 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: right handed pitchers for Addison Russell, who then was one 205 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: of the game's top prospects, Kenny dan STRELLI and cash. 206 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: So instead of going out and enjoying myself on the 207 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: mall on fourth of July, I was in my hotel 208 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: room hacking away. 209 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: Hacking away and trying to figure out how to spell 210 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: someamarja without having to look at at look at it 211 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 3: a thousand times. And how your poor wife has in 212 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 3: dfaed you by now, Ken Rosenthal, I don't know all right. 213 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: Time now for a Gorilla and Kennis question. As you 214 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: get your questions in, we have a question in the chat. 215 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: This is from Michael in your opinion, Ken, who's more clutch? 216 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: Show meaning show Hey O Tani of course or Aaron Judge. 217 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: I don't have the numbers in front of me. I 218 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: know Otani had trouble with runners in scoring position earlier 219 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: this season. To me, they're both clutch, and they're both 220 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: great players. And I'm not copying out of the question, 221 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: but whenever we talk about runners in scoring position, the 222 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: issue is often opportunity and how often is the player 223 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: getting the opportunity. If you go way back twenty years ago, 224 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: there was a rap on Bond that he was not 225 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 2: good in the postseason. Well, it kept putting Bonds in 226 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: the postseason, and guess what in two thousand and two 227 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: he went nuts in the postseason. So, in Otani's case, 228 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: his troubles with runners in scoring position have straightened out 229 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: some judge never seems to have a problem, so to me, 230 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: they're both clutch. 231 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean honestly too. 232 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: When you look at Shojeo Tani when he was with 233 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: the Angels, he didn't have a lot of runners in 234 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: scoring position. 235 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 4: With the Dodgers, he. 236 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: Has a lot of people that get on base and 237 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: has more of an opportunity. So to your point, yes, 238 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 3: all right. The next question here in Grill and Ken 239 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: is regarding the Tampa Bay Rays. This is from our 240 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: buddy Scott Bron Aaron Savali trade near me and the 241 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 3: Rays are throwing in the towel. I know he hasn't 242 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: been great, but curious if Tampa Bay does a reset 243 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 3: Ken and deals guys like Eflyn Randy Arozarina of course, 244 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 3: and maybe even Yandi Diaz of course their relief pitchers 245 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: as well. 246 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 4: What do you just say to Ken's to Scott's question. 247 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: It's a good question, and certainly when you see a 248 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: trade like this, you wonder if that's the way they're 249 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: going to go. But remember, as I said earlier, they've 250 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: got bos coming back, they've got springs coming back, so 251 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 2: they felt they could do this with their rotation. Now 252 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: that said, the Rays are always opportunistic, and if they 253 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: see in a market that is starved for starting pitching 254 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: and starved for offense that they can get X for 255 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 2: Eflyn and Y for Arosarena, they're certainly going to look 256 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: at it and maybe they're going to do it. And 257 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 2: when you talk about the rays and resetting, they're kind 258 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: of always resetting, So it would not be out of 259 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: character for them. It would not necessarily concede the season. 260 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: They always seem to have other bodies and maybe they 261 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: would get something back that could help them short term 262 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: as well. So I don't rule anything out with them, 263 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: but I see this move more as a reflection of 264 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: their depth with Springs and Bos coming back. 265 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of guys on that shelf as far 266 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: as the starting rotation is concerned, and they went out 267 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: and for a long time early on in the race season. 268 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 4: A super chat opportunity. 269 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 3: We always appreciate all the super chats coming in on 270 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: fair territory. This is on the Oakland A's Stadium in Vegas. 271 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: This is from Daniel good friend of the program. Here, 272 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: what's up with the A's. They have to start building 273 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: this stadium in Vegas soon? 274 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? 275 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 4: Like when are we going to get the hard hats 276 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 4: and the shovels. 277 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: Out, Well, that's always the question. And until the shovel 278 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: is in the dirt, we can't be sure this is 279 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: going to happen. Maybe even after the shovel is in 280 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: the dirt, we can't be sure this is going to happen. 281 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: There's still some legal challenges going on. It's going to 282 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: be really interesting to see if this actually transpires or 283 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: if the a's somehow end up I don't know, in Sacramento, 284 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: back in Oakland. I'm not saying these things are likely 285 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: to happen. They're not. 286 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: There's some legal issues going on there. Do they go 287 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: to Vegas, do they stay in Sacramento? Do they possibly 288 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: go back to Oakland in some form or fashion. So 289 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 3: we'll get to that. So continue to load up your 290 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: questions for Grill and Ken. As Kenny works on his 291 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 3: internet access technology is wonderful until it doesn't work. We 292 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 3: do have another question regarding the Red Sox. This is 293 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: coming in here on Grill and Ken if we could 294 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: load that up. Alex Cora on the Trail Deadline said, 295 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 3: we're trying to win games to make it to the playoffs. 296 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: Red Sox have been a surprise team this season. Could 297 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: you see this team buying and forcing ownership's hands. So 298 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: obviously Ken is going to weigh in on this when 299 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: he comes back. 300 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 4: But I'll give you my opinion on this. 301 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 3: I think when the Red Sox didn't do anything in 302 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: the offseason other than signing Lucas Gioledo, the fan base 303 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 3: here in the Northeast where I live, of course, was 304 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: understandably upset. 305 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 4: Then Lucas Gioledo goes out for the. 306 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: Entire season because of surgery, and the Red Sox were 307 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: kind of dead in the water. They're starting pitching outperformed 308 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: when anybody thought that they were going to do, and 309 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden they started hitting. I think 310 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: Jared Duran has been an unbelievably amazing bright spot. If 311 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: Jared Duran isn't starting for the American League in the 312 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: outfield at the All Star Game, I think that's a travesty. 313 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: He's been phenomenal. Obviously, Ken's more of an expert on 314 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: this than I am, but I do think that it 315 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: does force the hand for ownership to have to do something. 316 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: In a handful of teams that have an opportunity to 317 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: get that third wildcard spot and the Boston Red Socks 318 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: are not playing poorly right now. If they can continue 319 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: to pitch well. I do believe in their bullpen with 320 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: Chris Martin and ken Lee Jansen. We'll see, we'll see 321 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: what happens. But hopefully, I think baseball's better. 322 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 4: Hey, he's back. 323 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: I think baseball's better when the Red Sox spend money 324 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: and when they do things, Ken, So hopefully we can 325 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: hear you. I can't see your face, your pretty face 326 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: right now. Just pretend like you're writing for newspaper. Because 327 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: we can't see your face, we can't hear your voice. 328 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: So here we go. 329 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 4: I mean, are you there? Ken? What can you weigh in? 330 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: As far as the question about whether the Red Sox 331 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: have to do something to get into the postseason, I 332 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: wrote about. 333 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: This Monday and I was pretty adamant about it. I 334 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: believe they should be a buyer. They are the Boston 335 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: Red Sox. They have a very interesting team here. I 336 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: know they don't want to compromise the long term, but 337 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: for goodness sake, they are a team that has a 338 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: lot of money coming in. They charge a lot of 339 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: money for tickets, and I'm not saying you go all 340 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: in and you trade your top three prospects. No, those 341 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: three guys are part of their future in a big part. 342 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: But at the same time, they should not be thinking 343 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: about selling. They should be buying. This is a team 344 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: that has overachieved considering their injuries. They're getting Casses back soon. 345 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: It's not even a question for me. And it's amazing 346 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: to me that we're even considering anything but the alternative here, 347 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: or I even considering the alternative. It's absurd. 348 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more. 349 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 3: And Tristan Cassis, by the way, ken is coming for 350 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: our jobs. He is the most one of the most 351 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: dynamic personalities in the game. 352 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: And you give that kid a microphone and he just 353 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: goes with it. 354 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: There's another question here regarding the biggest rival of the 355 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: Boston Red Sox, if at least if you're talking about history, 356 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: the New York Yankees. Here's a question from Michael Caputo. Hey, Alna, 357 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: what moves do you think the Yankees will make at 358 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: the trade deadline? Well, Michael, thanks for the question. I 359 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 3: think the biggest thing that the Yankees have to worry 360 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: about is a first baseman. You know, they need another 361 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 3: left handed bat in the lineup. With Anthony Rizzo out 362 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: of the lineup, so I don't know how long it's 363 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: going to take for him to come back. Obviously, with 364 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: Judge and Soto, they're phenomenal, but it can't just be 365 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: two guys all of the time. Obviously, gian Carlo is 366 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: still hurt. He's not reliable as far as health is concerned. 367 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 3: I like their starting pitching. I do think that Garrett 368 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 3: Cole well obviously, I mean, I know he's had three 369 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: starts since coming off the IL. I do think he's 370 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: going to get back to that ace form and they 371 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: need that. They need Garrett Cole to be back in 372 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty three form where he won the American League. 373 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 4: Say Young Awards. 374 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: So I think another bat for the New York Yankees, 375 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: particularly a first baseman, is what they need. Ken Do 376 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 3: you agree with that? 377 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 4: Is? Is there a bigger need for. 378 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 3: The New York Yankees than just a first baseman or 379 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: am I off the mark there? 380 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 4: Do they need something else entirely? 381 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: Ben Rice so far has looked pretty good at first base. 382 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: Now he is a catcher who is playing first base, 383 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: he hasn't had much experience there, but his bats have 384 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 2: been really good. So they like what they see there, 385 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: and yes, Alana, they still might need to upgrade there. 386 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: And the infield in general has been a question outside 387 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: of Volpi. Is may you going to continue to come on? 388 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 2: Is toy is going to continue to come on? This 389 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 2: remains to be seen over the next couple of weeks. 390 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: Their biggest deed, in my opinion, is pitching, and one 391 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: is a starting pitcher, and to the bullpen in particular, 392 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 2: because they don't have great strikeout stuff in that bullpen 393 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: except for Holmes maybe Luke Weaver. Those are the guys 394 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: who have emerged and who have been their best believers, 395 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: but they could use more there, and that's the area 396 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: where I expect them to focus on and listen, we 397 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 2: don't know where Luis Heal is going to be the 398 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 2: rest of the year. We don't know what health issues 399 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: might arise in the rotation, So a starter two is 400 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: going to need to be something they look at. 401 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: I want to ask you a question about what your 402 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 3: opinion was on the Marcus Stroman outburst and then Aaron 403 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 3: Judge giving him. 404 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 4: A little bit of tutelage that we don't do that here. 405 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 3: Sometimes it fires up a team, Sometimes it has the 406 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: reverse effect. But I want to ask you about what 407 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: you thought about Marcus Stroman doing it, and also Justin Steele, 408 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: who was yelling at his teammates publicly in the dugout 409 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: that they better wake up. 410 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: I saw both obviously, like all fans did, and I 411 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: understand the emotion and the passion and all of that. 412 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: But I would ask this of both those players. 413 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: Would you like it if you gave up a few 414 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: home runs or whatever the case might be, and guys 415 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: were doing that to you in the dugout or acting 416 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: like that. 417 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: That's where it becomes tricky. And it seems to me 418 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 2: that we don't know exactly what Judge said, but Judge 419 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: told him something along the lines of we don't do 420 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: that here we're all together, and Stroman's emotional. Justin Steele, 421 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 2: I guess, is emotional too, and Stroman basically came out 422 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: and said, I got to, you know, keep it cool 423 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: in the future. He knows. But at the same time, 424 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: it's not a great look when you do that with 425 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: your teammates. It's just not And for the reason I said, 426 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: it's almost like do unto others as you would have 427 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: done unto yourself. That's kind of where I'm going with that. 428 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: Does it matter for you Ken, length of career, length 429 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 3: of resume. 430 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 4: Justin Steele's a rookie for all intensive purposes? 431 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: Is he kid in this game and Marcus Stroman has 432 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 3: more time under his belt? Does that make a difference 433 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: to you? 434 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: No, it doesn't. I just believe you can't do that. 435 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: And again, hey, we're all human beings. We're gonna lose 436 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: it from time to time, and that's the nature of 437 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: life itself. But at the same time, it's the kind 438 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: of thing where if it's reciprocated in that fashion, Steele 439 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 2: would not have been happy and Stroman would not have 440 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: been happy. No player is perfect. I know Torres's effort 441 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: as times at times has come into question, and that 442 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: seemed to be with Stroman was getting at there. But 443 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: I did love it. I didn't love it at all, 444 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: and I Stroman has done some really good things for 445 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: the Yankees this year. Justin Steele, we know who he is. 446 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: These guys are accomplished players. They're really good, and they 447 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: demand a lot out of themselves and others. That's fine, 448 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: but it's got to be contained. 449 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Glabor Torre is sulking in the dugout not the 450 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 3: best look either. 451 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 4: Okay, time now for dude and dork of the week. 452 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 3: This is the opportunity where Ken and I get to 453 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 3: pick a dude, which is somebody we love in terms 454 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: of their actions, and the dork, which is not so much. 455 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: So we'll start with the positive first, Ken, who is 456 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: your dude of the week? 457 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 2: Well, it could be Judge, it could be Otani, but 458 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: those guys could be dudes every week, our dudes every week. 459 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: So I'm going to go with a player who has 460 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 2: struggled for most of the season, but since about mid 461 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: June has been really hot. And I'm talking about Austin Riley. 462 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: Check out these numbers since mid June twenty one for 463 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: fifty nine seven homers, one point two two one ops, 464 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 2: the slash line, three point fifty six batting four forty 465 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 2: one base seven eighty slugging. This guy has come out 466 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: of it. He is one of the great players in 467 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: the game, of course, and remember he lost his private 468 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: hitting coach, Mike Brumley, in that car accident just a 469 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: few weeks ago, just a few days before this all 470 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 2: started turning around for him. So good for Austin Riley. 471 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: He's my dude of the week. 472 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a good dude. 473 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 3: I mean period, he's just a good dude, one of 474 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: the best in the game. Mine, dude of the week 475 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 3: is a team, and it's the Milwaukee Brewers with bases loaded. 476 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is about this team that 477 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 3: just absolutely crushes the ball and hits Grand slams all 478 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 3: the time. But I think what's funny too, is Pat 479 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: Murphy being a dude and saying that they basically bought 480 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 3: the recipe online. It's a secret plan on how to 481 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 3: hit homers with the bases loaded. It's been working. It's 482 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: the recipe online. Brewers manager Pat Murphy jokes about Milwaukee's 483 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 3: recent success with the bases loaded, and then the Milwaukee 484 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 3: Brewers went on to tweet basically say, yeah, don't steal 485 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 3: our secret. We bought it online. It's our So good 486 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 3: for them continue to do that. Home runs are fun, 487 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: chickstick the long ball, and certainly in Grand Slam of fashion. Okay, 488 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 3: what about your dork of the week? 489 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: Ken? 490 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 5: All right, I'm not going to name names Alana in 491 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 5: this particular case, but anyone who thinks spring training for 492 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 5: pitchers doesn't matter, you're kidding yourself and here's the proof, 493 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 5: the latest proof. 494 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: Blake Snell still on the IL second time this season 495 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: nine point five on the Jordan Montgomery six point four 496 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 2: four ERA, and he is now on the IL with 497 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 2: right knee inflammation. These are the two guys who signed late, 498 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: of course, and they have not performed well at all. 499 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 2: Now you could say, well, Scott Boris should have had 500 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 2: them in camps earlier. Scott Boris is going to say 501 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: the offers weren't there. Whatever, whoever is responsible here next year, 502 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 2: if Boris or any other agent has Pictures who are 503 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 2: gonna hold out long term or stay unsigned. Long term 504 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: holdout implies negative towards the picture, Let's just say stay 505 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: unsigned long term. They're gonna lose leverage because teams are 506 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: gonna look at what has happened with Snell in Montgomery 507 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 2: and say, hey, this ain't working. It hasn't worked now. 508 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: It's worked in the past for Kyle Losh and certain 509 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 2: other Bors clients actually Dallas Kichel as well. But on 510 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: the whole, Pictures in particular needspring training. So don't sit 511 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 2: here and tell me that it's okay to wait until 512 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: March fifth, twenty sixth, whatever the case might be, it's 513 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 2: not has it worked, not for nothing. 514 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: It's the reason that spring training is so dang long. 515 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 4: Is because of the pictures. 516 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: It's because of getting all of the picture, all the pictures, 517 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: you know, built up and extended out as far as 518 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 3: pitch count is concerned. If you ask the position players, 519 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: spring training could be you know, three weeks long, and 520 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 3: they'd be happy with that. It's for the pictures. The 521 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: reason we're down in Arizona and Florida for six weeks. 522 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 3: So they definitely they definitely need to imagine the injuries 523 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: if you're rushing pictures and you're not giving them the 524 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 3: time that they need to get ready. My dork of 525 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 3: the week is anybody that doesn't think that sho hey 526 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: o Tani, if healthy, if not rehabbing, should not participate 527 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 3: in the home run derby. 528 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about just show hey. 529 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 3: If a player is healthy and it's not affecting his 530 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 3: rehab process or an injury, and the player wants to play, 531 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: it should be the decision of the player as to 532 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: whether or not they're allowed to participate. 533 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 4: In the home run derby. 534 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 3: Yes, I understand that you haven't opportunity to get hurt, 535 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 3: but you know what you can sneeze and throw out 536 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,479 Speaker 3: your back. I have covered players in the past that 537 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 3: have tripped over their dogs, that have tripped up the stairs, 538 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: that have been carrying a rack of deer meat and 539 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: have fallen and broken a clavicle. We have players that 540 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 3: have gotten into motorcycle you know, motorbike accidents, Chris Sale, 541 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: you know. We have players that can anything can happen 542 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 3: to where there's a misstep and you get hurt. Should 543 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 3: Edwin Diaz not have been allowed to participate in the 544 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: World Baseball Classic and play for his country because we 545 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 3: anticipated he was going to get hurt in a celebration. 546 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 3: You can't live your life in fear. You can't make 547 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 3: decisions in fear. I understand it's not my checkbook, it's 548 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: not my money. Sho Hayes not participating because he's in 549 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: the rehab process. I also understand a business side that 550 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: he's a seven hundred million dollar player, But if you 551 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: want to grow our game, he's a global, international superstar. 552 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: If Showhy was healthy, I'd say let them play. 553 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 4: That's my porite. 554 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 2: I'll give you the counterpoint really quickly, Alana, because it's 555 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: an interesting question, for sure. Dave Roberts had a quite 556 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: fascinating line yesterday when he said, it's not show hey, 557 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: Otani's responsibility to carry the entire sport, and for the 558 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: most part, he wears that responsibility pretty well. And if 559 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: he's not going to be in the Home Run Derby 560 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: because the Dodgers fear the rehab with the elbow, I 561 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: don't have a problem with it in this particular case. 562 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: But I do agree with you with regard to the 563 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: World Baseball Classic in particular, that is a big thing. 564 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 2: The Home Run Derby's an exhibition whatever. The WBC is 565 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: something that really matters. And in my view, teams are 566 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: overly careful, and they're overly careful for a reason. But 567 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: your point is well taken. Guys keep getting hurt anyway 568 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: with the teams being so careful, So how are we 569 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 2: dealing with that? And it's interesting with regard to inning's limits. 570 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: Now you're starting to see and hear from teams that 571 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: we're not going to be as rigid about that because hey, 572 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: our track record hasn't been good as it is, so 573 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: we'll go by how the player is feeling. In this case, 574 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: when you're rehabbing off a second major elbow surgery. I 575 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: can see where the Dodgers are coming from, but in general, 576 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: I do agree it's too much of a conservative outlook 577 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: by most clubs at all times, and at times you 578 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: have to let the players go. 579 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: Yes, and I understand that they have changed the rules 580 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: as far as the derby is concerned. 581 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 4: It's more about time versus out. 582 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: And you know, people are swinging out of their shoes 583 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 3: to try to hit home runs. We don't even get 584 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: to see where the ball lands because we're already focused 585 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: on the next swing. So I understand from that perspective 586 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: as well. Yes, it's not his responsibility to carry the 587 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 3: sport for the world, but he's also been you know, 588 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 3: to who much is given, much is expected, and if 589 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 3: you pay it. If you pay somebody seven hundred million 590 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: dollars and he's an international superstar, I mean it is. 591 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 4: It is what it is. 592 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: But you Dodgers paying in that allowed not MLB oh 593 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: I love. 594 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 4: Listen rogers here call I get it. 595 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: But you know he's getting seven hundred million, which that 596 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: probably means that they're getting two point eight billion in return. 597 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 4: I mean they don't. 598 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 3: They don't assign players to these contracts because they're losing money. 599 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 3: But speaking of money, how about we win some bet 600 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: mgm is here As always, we appreciate them before we go, 601 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 3: let's shut out the bet MGM first bet fifteen hundred 602 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 3: dollars offer when you use bonus code foul. 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Foul Territory is next, and then Dodgers' 619 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: Territory is today. 620 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 4: After that, Dave Roberts joins the show. 621 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: It's our thirtieth episode of Dodgers' Territory, so you've. 622 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: Got number thirty on this show. So for Ken Rosenthal, 623 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 4: I'm the Jana Rizzo. Thanks for being with us. We'll 624 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 4: see you next time.