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Speaker 1: All right. So it is the month of New Beginnings

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Speaker 1: on Velvet's Edge, and we've done a lot of different topics.

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Speaker 1: High Chip. By the way, could you guys both turn

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Speaker 1: your volume up a little bit because I want the

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Speaker 1: people to be able to hear you as much as

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Speaker 1: they hear me. Um. So it's the month of new beginnings,

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Speaker 1: and Chip and I have also told you guys, we're

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Speaker 1: going to start interviewing people. This is our first interview together.

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Speaker 1: I feel a little nervous. Yeah, breaking the cherry. That's

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Speaker 1: actually called popping. This is this is when you know

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Speaker 1: you're a gay man, breaking the cherry. So yes, we're

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Speaker 1: popping Chips interview Jerry. So glad I can be the

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Speaker 1: one to do that with you, and we have a

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Speaker 1: really special guest. I'm so excited about this. When I

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Speaker 1: think about January, I always think about setting up my

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Speaker 1: life to give me the best start for the year.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things I really struggle with in

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Speaker 1: my life is being organized. Like I'm not I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: create of a thrive in that world, but I cannot

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Speaker 1: function when it comes to like details. A lot of

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Speaker 1: times like that is not my strong suit. However, when

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Speaker 1: I am functioning at my highest capacity. Usually things are

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Speaker 1: in order, and I have both of those working together.

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Speaker 1: So we wanted to bring in someone to help us

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Speaker 1: with this and get a really good fresh start in

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Speaker 1: a new beginning to the year of two after the

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Speaker 1: chaos of all the insanity we've dealt with the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. So Ria Stafford is here. She is

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Speaker 1: the founder of Reorganized, which is an organization company that

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Speaker 1: will get into and I want to hear all the

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Speaker 1: details about that. Hi, Rhea, you guys, Okay, I didn't

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Speaker 1: realize this was like our first threesome. I like the

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Speaker 1: way that you put that. Yeah, first three with two women.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that is too good. Oh my gosh, you guys.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited to be here, truly, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I was so excited to have you and yes, this

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Speaker 1: is all of our well it's our first threesome in

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Speaker 1: some capacity. I like the quick edit there. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: because I know Chips story, you know, so I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure we would be led down a whole different podcast

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Speaker 1: if that's more for the sex and dating version of

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Speaker 1: the Edge. Maybe we'll have you back, please do so.

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Speaker 1: I loved your story. When your rep reached out to me,

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Speaker 1: there was such an interesting thing that caught me in

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Speaker 1: the initial email, and she was like, yeah, RHA's story

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Speaker 1: is really cool because she was ten days out of

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Speaker 1: having this baby and Jen Atkin, the celebrity hairstyle is

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Speaker 1: called and you said, yes, when do you need me

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Speaker 1: to come organize your house? And I'm like, tended out

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Speaker 1: true story and literally one of my favorites. Um please,

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Speaker 1: this was a couple yeah, yeah, So this was a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks or a couple of weeks is starting

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Speaker 1: A couple of years into starting my business, I started

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Speaker 1: i mean not necessarily a slower start, but it was

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Speaker 1: So I'm like set the scene. I'm pregnant, you know,

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Speaker 1: which I mean this was still the time of Instagram.

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Speaker 1: because Jen said something is crazy to me. For someone

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Speaker 1: How did you know? I mean because speaking of new beginnings,

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Speaker 1: and when it's the right time to be Like the

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Speaker 1: I guess, for one, I've never been one to take

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Speaker 1: learn as much as they can, they're wanting to maintain it.

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00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: Um I there's always going to be a need for us,

429
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: because if it's not to go back and do someone's

430
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: pantry again, it's gonna be for whatever the next season brings,

431
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. It's you know, our additional projects with

432
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: clients are going to be new spaces or just new

433
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 1: seasons in their life. You know, eventually all the kid

434
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: jumpers and barbies go away and it's soccer fleets and

435
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 1: nerf guns and you know, it's there's always this evolution

436
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 1: of your home and in your routines and in your

437
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 1: your habits and the thing your hobbies. I mean, everything

438
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: just changes all the time. And so I feel like

439
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: we're kind of those people that can be with you

440
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: all along the way, but it isn't necessary that we

441
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: have to go in and keep refreshing the same spaces.

442
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: But some clients are like, oh my gosh, absolutely, Like

443
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: basically we want you guys like a housekeeper. Once you

444
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: do the whole big shipping keep coming, which I'm all

445
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: for too, because some people just want everything like so

446
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: or you know, we have clients, you know, who have

447
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: a staff who are maintaining their spaces, which that's always

448
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: an interesting thing because we want to do something that

449
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: makes sense for the people maintaining it, but we wanted

450
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: to be liked by the people who are paying for it,

451
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: and you're just kind of navigating different people. Um. But

452
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: we do like teaching the staff how we're folding things,

453
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: where we're putting things away, asking them what are routines are,

454
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: because we just we want the home to move smoothly

455
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, you should just

456
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: have this routine ready home that whatever you're doing, there's

457
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: not even a thought of like, oh my gosh, like

458
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: the straw driving nets at breaking cabinet, like we all

459
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: have that, like those spaces that you're just like, oh

460
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: my god, I'll get to it, but I didn't want

461
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: to say about your closet. Is Also there's a difference

462
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: between going in and like tidying things up, like putting

463
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: everything back exactly how you had it, but getting everything

464
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: you know with its category and feeling really good and

465
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: then doing a full assessment of like okay, wait is

466
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: where I put everything to begin with? Even correct? Why

467
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: am I not maintaining. So when we go in, we're

468
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: not just like, oh my gosh, okay, like we just

469
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: want this all to look really nice. We're just gonna

470
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: switch out hangars and we're going to keep things where

471
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 1: you had it, like we're really going in and reassessing everything.

472
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: Perfect example is a couple of weeks ago, we're on

473
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: a project. We're in the closet. It's a really big closet,

474
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 1: but it was just feeling kind of crazy and there

475
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: were these two really high shelves stacked with denim, like

476
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: so much denim, And I'm like, how is this working

477
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: out for you? And she's like, I honestly don't love it.

478
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, how do you feel about holded jeans

479
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: versus hanging? She's like, oh my gosh, I would I

480
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: would love hanging. I feel like that'd be so much easier.

481
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know how you're grabbing all

482
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: these this just this doesn't seem like it's working. And

483
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: so we literally eliminated those shelves and added three hanging

484
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: rods and hung all of them and that like that

485
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: change was so major, not only visually because it's it's

486
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: a lot harder for it to feel out of sorts

487
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: when everything is hung versus having to fold something exactly.

488
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: But we really asked the question of is this even

489
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: something that's working for you or can it completely be changed?

490
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: That is such a good tip in and of itself,

491
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: just to look in your rooms, I mean, the closets

492
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: the perfect example. A pantry is probably also another good one,

493
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: Like I feel like a refrigerator can get really out

494
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: of whack, but asking myself like what is the thing

495
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: that I'm struggling so much to maintain and why isn't

496
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: that working? Like kind of the wise behind it like

497
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: we do with everything else in our life. I mean,

498
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,239
Speaker 1: but it's just applying it to actual organization, which I've

499
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: never even thought of. It's mostly for me about does

500
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: this look good in the moment, And like Chips said,

501
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: go clean it, go get it set up, but you

502
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: can't maintain it. And it's there's certain things like there

503
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: are going to be little habits you have to keep

504
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: doing over and over and over and then to become

505
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: just part of your regular routine. Um, because that's always

506
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: something we have to share. Two, we've definitely had the

507
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: clients before that are like I don't get it. Like

508
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like how you guys did anymore. You

509
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: have to do your part in it too. Like, once

510
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: we do it, berries aren't just putting everything back and

511
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: keeping everything straight and making it look perfect. Now, it's

512
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: we've created the foundation, the blueprint. You know, we even

513
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: did the first set up, but it's going to be

514
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: your job to maintain that. Um, I totally lost my

515
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: train of thought where I was going. We were talking

516
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: about just the maintaining and making sure it's the little

517
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: habits and so something like one of my biggest problems

518
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: is I I moved so quickly all the time period

519
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: to where if I try something on I don't like it,

520
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm not hanging it right back then because you might

521
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: go back to it. This is like when I'm trying

522
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: on clothes, I'm like, I could maybe do that outfit,

523
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: but probably not, but I'm gonna throw it on the

524
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: ground instead of hanging out. I wish I had that excuse,

525
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: Like I know, And so even here, I'm a professional organizer.

526
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: We last year alone three hundred and fifty different projects, Like,

527
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean, this is all all I do, and I'm

528
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: still needing to prioritize organization in my own regularly. It's

529
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: like the last thing you want to do when you

530
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: get home is organized your own ship. Yeah, it's like

531
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: the shoemaker's kids have no shoes, right, the girl who

532
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: does makeup who never wears makeup. Funny but honestly, um well,

533
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: I love that tip. And then I was gonna ask

534
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: you because I know Chips said when whenever I told

535
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: him we were gonna be talking to you, he was

536
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: like started to look at his house and he just

537
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: came in with all of a sudden he was like,

538
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, I have so many questions. And so

539
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 1: for people like us who maybe or just people listening

540
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: who can't afford a service like yours, but there's they're

541
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: but they're looking to maybe get a start. Is there

542
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: one thing other than looking at the systems like you

543
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 1: were just talking about that you would tell people as

544
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: a place to start, Like, is there something you could

545
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: name for us? Because I know one of the things

546
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: that keeps me from ever even going into organization is

547
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: the overwhelmed feeling of not knowing where to start. I

548
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna give a two partner because I always

549
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: think the first thing that is so necessary. Okay, he's

550
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: a three partner. Okay, Um, First, you have to be

551
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: in mindset, you have to want to do it. You

552
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: have to be like, this is something I want to tackle,

553
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: this is something I want to take on. And you

554
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: have to know kind of what capacity you're able to

555
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: do that because if you if you overload your plate,

556
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna get overwhelmed and you're gonna bail. Um. And

557
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: that kind of goes hand in hand with the second part,

558
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: which is allowed, like giving yourself the appropriate amount of

559
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: time because I can't tell like, you know, oh, I

560
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: have an hour, you know, in between picking up kids

561
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: or whatever. Let me go reorganize my closet. You're dumping stuff,

562
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: You've got piles, but then you've got to stop, and

563
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: then everything just goes right back in. It's just this

564
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: band aid you keep ripping off and putting back on.

565
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: You're not giving it the proper amount of time to

566
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: even do anything. But I would say before spending any

567
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: money on anything, which you really shouldn't do, to well

568
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: into the process. Um as far as like product and everything,

569
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: you need to know what you have. So our approach

570
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: is really it's less about what we're making clients get

571
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: rid of or encouraging them to get rid of weren't

572
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: encouraging them to be reintroduced to their items, to be

573
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: reintroduced to the things that they bought and collected and

574
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: kept over the years. Why do you have it? Do

575
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: you still want it? Do you love it? Do you

576
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: want to see it? Do you use it? Figuring out

577
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: just what everything is? Because I think the number one

578
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: thing is people are like, I have no clue what

579
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 1: the hell is Nott Hallway closet? Let you even tell

580
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: you one of those bins up there? And I think

581
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: just knowing your inventory to begin with is major. And

582
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: being able to edit the things that you no longer want, need,

583
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: love use. What have you just removing those items from

584
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: your space? Well, one make you just feel like a

585
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: weight has been lifted. Two give you so much encouragement

586
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: and just give you so much momentum to keep things going,

587
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: because I it's like, Okay, now I know everything in here.

588
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: I love prioritizing off of This is a really long

589
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: answer to your question. You're like one thing, I'm like,

590
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: here's the whole. Hey, I'm like taking notes though literally

591
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: this is so I know how freak and stressful it is,

592
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: but I feel like it's been so like overcomplicated for

593
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be. You just like just

594
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: those little things of being in the right mindset, giving

595
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: yourself the right amount of time and knowing your inventory

596
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: before you're figuring out systems where things are placed and

597
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: all of that, which even that you're placing based on priority,

598
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: things you use often things you need are the most accessible,

599
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: and you work your way outwards. Think about it much sense.

600
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: It makes so much sense and it sounds so simple,

601
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: but it's something that I wouldn't have thought of my own.

602
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: Like I can't tell you how many times I've bought

603
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: something and then remembered I actually already have that because

604
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: of exactly what you're saying, Like I just I'm so

605
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: unaware of the ship that's floating around my house because

606
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: it's not it's buried somewhere and I forgot to have it.

607
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: And it's amazing what just knowing what you have exactly. Yeah,

608
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm a record collector and it's like sometimes I'll be

609
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: in a record store and be like, oh, I should

610
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: buy this, and I'm like, wait, do I have this record?

611
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: Like so? Um, I mean I think to me, like

612
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot of shame in being messy, because I

613
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,719
Speaker 1: feel like the general populace would say that, like it's

614
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: inherently bad to be messy, but I don't. I mean,

615
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: I think it's bad to be dirty. Like you said,

616
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: you're messy and dirty. Um. And you know from some

617
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: of the research that I did, like the messiness is

618
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: um is equated to creativity a lot. I wonderful. I

619
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: thought I found a really interesting quote because Einstein famously

620
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: out a messy desk and he said, if a if a,

621
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: if a I've wrote oh if I even wrote it

622
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: down messy. Um. Basically what a cluttered if a cluttered

623
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: desk is a sign of a cluttered mind of what

624
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: then is an empty desk assign which is really at

625
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: interesting because he was like mic drop, Yeah, so I

626
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: look around my really messy office and I'm like, maybe

627
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm Einstein. Honestly, readers, it's just going. But yeah, I

628
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: mean I think a lot of it is like a

629
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: lot of people don't want to admit that they're messy

630
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: because there is some shame in it. So how do

631
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: we how do people get past like they're like, Okay,

632
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: this is not just my problem, and maybe it is.

633
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: It's like maybe you overconsume, maybe you're just a comcrascinator,

634
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: or maybe you're all these other things that cause you

635
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: to be messy and you're not a mess and you

636
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: have to tell you that. I think there's even a

637
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: difference in what kind of messy someone is, because the

638
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: messy I was is a like an organized messy. Like

639
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of messy people would be like, oh, yeah,

640
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: I know where that hair tie is. Totally. It's like

641
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: you just you know where things are. And I think

642
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: that there's there's an organized chaos, which is kind of

643
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: just always been me like just kind of all over

644
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: the place, but it's kind of when there's no rhyme

645
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: or reason to it, that it's taken a new meaning.

646
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's the difference. Like I feel

647
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: like if you were to walk into your space and

648
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: just be like I don't even recognize what's happening here,

649
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: I've I've fully lost all control, that's something to really

650
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: evaluate further versus just like oh my god, like I've

651
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: had this pile of this pile of this pile of this,

652
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: but you know what everything is, and you know, you

653
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: just kind of keep sliding it around like that's different

654
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: in my eyes. Maybe that's that's how I am. And

655
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to do any words than what it is,

656
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: um but I mean, I would hate for anyone to

657
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: feel shame about it. Ever, And there's so many reasons behind,

658
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: like deeper reasons to how we're maintaining our space. And

659
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: for so long it was always you know, your space

660
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: or what would people say that, like your space affects

661
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: your mental health, like you know I do? I I

662
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: totally do too. And what I've realized over these last

663
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: couple of months, and I've been sharing more and more,

664
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: is that I'm noticing that my space is a reflection

665
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: of my mental health. It's the opposite. Like when I'm

666
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: feeling just good on it, on my routine, I'm taking

667
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: care of my space is better versus when I'm starting

668
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: to feel overwhelmed out of sorts, like I don't have

669
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: a handle on anything, like I'm drowning, I start to

670
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: let everything go bad. So it's like I feel like

671
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: it's the opposite way, if that makes sense, Like my

672
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: mind is affecting my space versus my space affecting my

673
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: mind or I think it's just kind of this endless

674
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: cycle with Austin Power. It's because I'm fat. I fat.

675
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: It's honestly that where you're just like, I mean, that's

676
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: how I get stuck in that in a cycle all

677
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: the time. And you know, of course having this business,

678
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, am I like a sham like what

679
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: like like I let my space is get like this

680
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: and that makes me feel terrible. But then I'm like, no,

681
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: I do have systems, and when I just take the

682
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: time to put things back, it's everything has a home

683
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: and things that are working for me. It's really that

684
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: extra step of just oh my god, put your ship back.

685
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: That's my problem. Yeah. I actually love that you struggle

686
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: with it too, because it gives me hope. And I

687
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: don't know if you feel like that ship. But just

688
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: to hear an organizers say, you know, I'm not perfect

689
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: at it, and I think that's the pressure we all

690
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: put on ourselves. Or it's about taking the time. Like

691
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: my mom is a very organized person and she always

692
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: says to me when I'm getting overwhelmed by my mess,

693
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: like start with a drawer, don't like try to do

694
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: the whole kitchen in one sitting, Like, do one drawer

695
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: at a time. Take thirty minutes or whatever and just

696
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: clean out a drawer and that way you're not so

697
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: overwhelmed because it just even the idea of doing a

698
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: whole room, sometimes it's too much for me. Like the

699
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: joy that that brings right fuel for the next that's

700
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: exactly right on the whole kitchen, right for the house. Yeah,

701
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I really get this high. Kelly and I

702
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: both were, Um, we both live alone. So you have

703
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: three children, You have an excuse mess in your life.

704
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: So I think the shame is a lot easier for

705
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: us to have because the mess that exists. I mean,

706
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: I have two dogs and that's not an excuse. So

707
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: what's my excuse to where are you going with this?

708
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: Your ears is all your receipts, All those receipts on

709
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: your table. I'm looking at my clients and left they're

710
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: fucking wardrobe. Goddamnit. But oh my god, pictures of receipts.

711
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: I know that's a great idea, that's a good one.

712
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: We live in a digital age, but yeah, I mean,

713
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: I think it's easier for us to feel shamed because

714
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: the mess and we look out is ours. I also

715
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: think it's funny too, And Kelly can attest to this,

716
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: like there's something like we'll be you know, our friends

717
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: are playing on getting together and I'm like, you, guys,

718
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: I've got to clean my house like it's a mess,

719
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: and I do it, and then I'll go over to

720
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: someone else's house and I'm like this not Kelly's or

721
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: not any of all like your close friends, and I'm like,

722
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: my house is not mass like it's not nearly as

723
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: gross and everyone. Yeah, it's like patting himself on the

724
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: back office is another story. You just have high standards.

725
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: That's it. It's interesting too, because like as messy, I mean,

726
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: my room literally looked like I was the opposite of rock,

727
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: like someone just came in and like I don't even know,

728
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: just like in there. But my schoolwork and my desks

729
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: have always been very orderly. Like I was the crazy,

730
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: Like I was that bag with her planner all the

731
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: different color highlighters, and I was like what are we

732
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: doing and like you know, just getting way into it,

733
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: like you know what I was going to do on

734
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: the weekend, Like I've kept all my high school planners

735
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: because it's a journal. At this point, like I was

736
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: just like on point, but everything else wasn't, like that,

737
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: and I feel like some people, like you know, a

738
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: chef maybe super super anal about the way that they

739
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: maintain you know, a portion of their pantry for what

740
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: they do, but maybe their closets the disaster Like it's

741
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: it's interesting how it's not always everything. It's like certain areas.

742
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe that's just me. I think it's

743
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: really interesting. Well, Chips touched on the fact that you

744
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: have three kids, which we've talked about, is how you

745
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: got really into this business too. But I want to know, um,

746
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: if there is a way to help children with organization,

747
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: because I know we have a lot of moms who listen,

748
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: and it's just it's got to be a lot to

749
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: manage your own messiness, your husband or your Yeah, there's

750
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: just like so many people running around your house, so

751
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: how do you keep that straight? Um? Yeah, No, kids

752
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 1: are insane, and it's it's very important to approach children

753
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: based on their age. If there's anything I've learned from

754
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: this whole process, and I always say that like zero

755
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: too to range, it's more what's going to make sense

756
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: for you as the parent, Like they're not going and

757
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: looking for their certain category of toys, like nothing they

758
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: play with. Honestly, even past that age makes sense. They'll

759
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: grab like a toy car, hairbrush, a two two, and

760
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: you don't even know what's going on. They're not grabbing

761
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: things within the same category. They're not playing with play

762
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: sets together. They just grab random things. So catch alls

763
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 1: when kids are that young is just so important. Catch

764
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: alls being maybe it's a cube system, you know, maybe

765
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 1: it's canvas, cubes or baskets that you're not seeing through, Like,

766
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: this isn't the time for see through organization when you

767
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: have little little babies. Um, if it's something that's going

768
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: to be out in the open of a room, if

769
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: you have a closet or something, you know, see through

770
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: is always great for you to help maintain things. But

771
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: having things like cubes where it's general categories you know,

772
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: a little puppets, stuffed animals, big cars, uh, figurines, whatever.

773
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, as the parent,

774
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: you're the one going in and picking that up, so

775
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: it needs to make sense for you. But as they

776
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: get older, like even as they you know, a year

777
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: and a half in the two year old phase, um,

778
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: like my kids love the whole cleanup song whatever, and

779
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: that's really like honest as parents to encourage picking up

780
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: after they play with things. And I I mean, I'm

781
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: definitely not getting on a soapbox here, because we will

782
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: go weeks with things just being totally nuts. Um, but

783
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: I feel like it helps kids understand like, hey, one,

784
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: let's find what we're looking for, Like they should learn

785
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 1: the lay of the land. And then hey, we're done,

786
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: let's put everything back or all the all the cars

787
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: are out, Let's put them all back in this basket.

788
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: That's something such a small child can do. And then

789
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: as they start to get older, you can start to

790
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: micro organize versus that macro big categories. Right. Um so,

791
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 1: now my girls, that can be like dolls, doll accessories,

792
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 1: you know, my little l O l Oh, my gosh,

793
00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: the l L dolls. I can't any toy that come

794
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: with a million all those little pieces now and now

795
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: it's like everything is a surprise egg. I'm like, what

796
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: the fort those shoes don't stay on those all dolls? No,

797
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: And that's your whole day is just can you put

798
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: this back on? Can you can you get her shirt

799
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: back on? Can you take this start off? Yes? This,

800
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: I'm always like putting arms back on. I'm like she's

801
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: been through a lot. We're done. I'm sugared even talking

802
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: about this, but yeah, you can start to do more

803
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: micro organizing, you know, labeling with pictures, you know, before

804
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: they know words, then starting to use very general words

805
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: as they're starting to learn reading. You know, my daughter's

806
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 1: almost seven. She can read actual words now, which is

807
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: really exciting because I'm like, you know, break an excuse,

808
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: you can read what that says, put it back in it. Um.

809
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: And also getting them involved in the purging or just

810
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: really going through things. I want them to know what

811
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: they have. You know, we did that before or Christmas time.

812
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: It's just like we need to get rid of anything

813
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: we can for a bunch of new stuff comes in.

814
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: And it was cool because early on I was working

815
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: for you know, different family friends or you know moms

816
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: through Mommy and Me's, so a lot of random things

817
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 1: were like, oh my gosh, take this home for your kids,

818
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: which I mean now is a business, we're not like

819
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: taking our clients things, but it was early on it

820
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, okay things, that's so nice. Um.

821
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: And so my kids got to learn early on, like hey,

822
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: you know, there was a little girl that decided she

823
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: didn't want these anymore, and now you get to play

824
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: with these? Like how special is that? Yeah? He didn't

825
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: just go nowhere, you know, you get to play with this.

826
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: And so when I kind of positioned it like that,

827
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: like oh my gosh, what are we going to pick

828
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: for other little girls and boys to play with? Like,

829
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: then they feel like wow, like look at like we're

830
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: that's so nice of us to be able to do that,

831
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: and you know, and I think it's important for them

832
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: to understand, like it's just it's not all about them

833
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: having their stuff all the time, Like we're trying not

834
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: to raise just like entitled a holes. Um. So I

835
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: want them to under stand like, hey, there's more than

836
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: just you, and you actually have more toys than so

837
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: many kids will have in their lifetime. And it's like

838
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: I get really caught up in like trying to say

839
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: these really deep things to my kids and they're like, okay,

840
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: whole story totally, because I'm just like listen people, and

841
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: they're just like pay this, like really took a turn, right,

842
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: They're like puls away. Stop seriously. I know, my two girls,

843
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: I am starting to get some sassy attitudes, but those

844
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: are all little things that I have found helped for me.

845
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: I know I covered like a lot of different phases,

846
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: but yeah, I love the sharing tip. That's a really

847
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 1: good one. And then the boxes. I think that's super

848
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: important to have the labels on the boxes everything place.

849
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: And I love the idea of even starting them early

850
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: because it's like once things become a habit, then your

851
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: mind goes to that versus oh, I'm just gonna leave

852
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: that on the ground whatever. Totally So my my first niece,

853
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: who's now thirteen years old, when my sister had her,

854
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: she was a single mom, so out of necessity, she

855
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: very early was like making made clean cleaning up after

856
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: yourself a fun thing. And it's so crazy because like

857
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: you saw it very early, like she KALs her name.

858
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: She loved to clean up after herself, and it was

859
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: something that like actually helped my sister because she's like

860
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 1: trying to feed the kid and do all the things.

861
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: It's like it's all hands on deck. And now she's

862
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: like her bedroom is more organized than I could ever

863
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: dream of being. How is this teenager so organized? And

864
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: I think it's like it's just sort of an effect

865
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: that like was implanted in or at a very young age. Yes,

866
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: And there's so many ways you can get kids excited

867
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: about it. We are like inappropriately competitive in this house.

868
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: So I I mean, I just make anything a contest

869
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: between my kids, whether it's brushing their teeth, getting on Jamie,

870
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you name it. And so making it a

871
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: contest just for cleaning up is something that works really well,

872
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: um in our house. Two giving them an incentive, yes,

873
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: an ownership. I think kids don't really do thrive on that. Chip.

874
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: Did you want to talk about I know we were

875
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 1: talking before and Chip mentioned something about, you know, during

876
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: times of uncertainty, a lot of people really kind of

877
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: gripped to something they can control. And obviously in the

878
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: last couple of years, we've really been living in this

879
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: crazy time where none of our lives are predictable. Like

880
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: even when I start to think life is going to

881
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: be more predictable, I have it a little more mapped out.

882
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, look at my calendar. Things are starting

883
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: to play the way they Here comes another Chips. Have

884
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: you seen like an uptick or like just in general,

885
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: not in just your business, but do you feel like, um,

886
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: the trend of being organized from this I know that,

887
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: like I claimed my closet. At the beginning of this

888
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: one hundred one, I thought we were down, like our

889
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: job is going inside people's homes and terrified. I was like,

890
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: this is over, like right, totally done. We doubled and

891
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: one we doubled that. Oh my god. You think it's

892
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: because people were just stuck in their houses because before that, yeah,

893
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: maybe you opened a drawer that piste you off in

894
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 1: the morning and then you left your house for ten hours,

895
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 1: thought about it, came home, had dinner, had a glass

896
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: of wine, woke up, hated that drawer the next morning,

897
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: and moved on with your life. And now people were

898
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: just getting punched in the face by their disorganization in

899
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: their home, and there was no avoiding it. It was

900
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: like everywhere people were turning there like, oh my god. No,

901
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: because when you think about when you're doing like full

902
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: work days or kids activities, all these things, you're really

903
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: not in your house but many hours on a regular

904
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,479
Speaker 1: day like where you're assessing your spaces, really analyzing what's

905
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: going on. But I mean, I mean we were like

906
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: entertained by watching paint dry when we were all stuck

907
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: in our houses. That was insane, insane times. But yeah,

908
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: that really really shocked me. I remember, um because we

909
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: took a little break, maybe it was like a month

910
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: or two months. I mean we were back at it

911
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: really quickly because like phones were off. That's crazy. It

912
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: was really insane. Yeah, the being stuck in the houses.

913
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: And I do think that we're just like grasping for

914
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: anything that we can have control over. Right now, I

915
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: still feel that way. Yeah, so many people like remodels,

916
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: like I mean our contractor he is like so booked out,

917
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: like all the projects. It's just it's all been nuts,

918
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: like home depot lows all those places. I mean everybody

919
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: was like making their own accent while people got into breadmaking.

920
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 1: It was like I didn't do any of these things.

921
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: I just started drinking a lot, Like what what's wrong

922
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: with these people? Can't you cope like the rest of us.

923
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: That was my guilt pleasure since COVID was to talk.

924
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I have not got an entity? Can do

925
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: to it? Do I know? I'll be up till four A.

926
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 1: That's what I have. Friends. Yeah, I'm literally that girl.

927
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: It's like double chin like yeah in my bed, laughing,

928
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: like waking my husband up, and like eventually they're not

929
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: funny anymore and he's like, your delirious just start. Yeah.

930
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: I feel like most of my lines now in normal

931
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: life are like TikTok's. TikTok. You're probably just like, okay,

932
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: the one about you know, you did one today you

933
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: were like, um am, I just better than everyone else.

934
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: I've actually made a TikTok to that. I do know

935
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: that one. Okay, see there we go. See you're you're

936
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: speaking TikTok that you like make TikTok's because they're like,

937
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: we have friends who do that. It was like really

938
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: weird at the beginning of COVID, like I was way

939
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: too invested in like a nineteen year old tik talkers

940
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: and like wait house, and I was like, hip, this

941
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: is bad organization. You've got to just let your brain go,

942
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: which is probably necessary. It's necessary. Yes, Well, speaking of

943
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: social media, you have a beautiful Instagram account, and I

944
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: do think that if people are interested in taking a step,

945
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: like one one step in the direction of organization, maybe

946
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: that's a really good place to start. So can you

947
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: tell people how to find you? Yes, I would say

948
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: the number one way is going to be Instagram. We

949
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: are at reorganize r I organize it's a little play

950
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: on my name. And we're actually about to reintroduce virtual organizing,

951
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: so people in home services. Um, like our lowest tier

952
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: is actually i mean really affordable and you can send

953
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: in photos of a space and we send you a

954
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: full plan and a customer shopping list. Um. So she's

955
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: like easy, really quick, easy, not as large of an investment. Um,

956
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, girl, Chip get us your office.

957
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: But totally that would be awesome. Okay, So you're offering

958
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: virtuals is the place people go? Find that on your

959
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: Instagram or on your website. I'm about to be announcing

960
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: it so it will be on so maybe by the

961
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: time this comes out. I don't know ya um, but yeah,

962
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: the website, that's where you inquire. Enquire on the website tomorrow. Yeah,

963
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: we turn things around here. Fat, you're really organized, because

964
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: that's insane, is it? Or a really last minute let's

965
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: think about that. But see, I just saw something the

966
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: other day. Well, because it's all my TikTok watching, I'm

967
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: super convinced a d h D like all jokes aside, totally,

968
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: I'm like everything I'm seeing where one of the things

969
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: was that for crash sting it's like basically waiting until

970
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: super last minute because you need that pressure of like

971
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: going again. I mean o'clock you've only set for yourself.

972
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: But that's when I do my best work. Is when

973
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: i'm the gun. Like it is just like maybe I

974
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: won't make it happen, but maybe I will. Know you will.

975
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: It's how you will make it happen. And the stress

976
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: of that is sometimes like it just forces you to

977
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: perform more on It's so bad for my nervous system

978
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: is all. It's all we Once you do it, you're

979
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: just like, yes, it's a rush. It's for sure, probably

980
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: not the best, but yeah, okay, so you're being that

981
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: out super fast. That's so awesome organizing and then also

982
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: we offer in home organizing and just be on the

983
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: lookout for some fun new announcements in the next couple

984
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: of months. This year is bananas. Okay. So Instagram is

985
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: at reorganized, website is www dot reorganized that I'm right, Yeah,

986
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to get on TikTok. I'm gonna

987
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: do it, like, actually do stuff, actually do a TikTok.

988
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: You should. I feel like you'd be a really good TikToker.

989
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: I think of a ten years too late because I

990
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: savaging and booty popping and that I would be a

991
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: TikTok er. I know it. I tried to learn the

992
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: savage dance and felt the most uncoordinated and old that

993
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: I've felt in a really long time. And then that

994
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 1: was when I decided I hated TikTok. I remember sex

995
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: here that was awesome, and then you rewatch it and

996
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 1: you're like, my booty pop not look like that girl's

997
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: booty pop. I thought it did. I'm just like wow,

998
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, TikTok, you're welcome, and I looked like no, sorry,

999
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: different ones and then I delete them. I'm just like

1000
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: I can't do it. But maybe it could be like

1001
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: a TikTok fail account. You know that's a good one

1002
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: to work. You know, like you should just organize on TikTok.

1003
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: I'll follow that. God, I've like recycled random old videos.

1004
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: There's like a couple on the reorganized TikTok, but they're

1005
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: just like not good. I needed. I'll make it a priority.

1006
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: It's like it's all so much work. It's all so

1007
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: much work, the social media stuff. But we'll start on

1008
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: Instagram and look for your announcement for your TikTok page.

1009
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: But this was so helpful and I actually am going

1010
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: to take so many of these tips and bring them

1011
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: into my new Beginnings for January. And I love your

1012
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 1: story of just going for it and taking the risk

1013
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: and really believing in yourself because I think, especially as

1014
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: women and moms, a lot of times we can get

1015
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: in our own way with that and hold ourselves back.

1016
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: So loving your story. Thank you so much for sharing

1017
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: with us. Chip. I feel like you really nailed your

1018
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: first interview. I can't even believe it was the first.

1019
00:54:46,239 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm obsessed text with her. I know, are

1020
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: you coming here again? I'm coming. I'm coming to Dallas.

1021
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: And we talked about this a couple of weeks ago

1022
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: on the podcast. But I'm going to see Jake Woodard,

1023
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: a friend of mine who is putting on this um

1024
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: seminar called Awake, and it's about masculine and feminine energies.

1025
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: I'm super into that stuff, so yeah, I'll hit you up.

1026
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: She's going to see how they're McMahon tonight. It's like,

1027
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I just keep thinking about how I

1028
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: want to get ready and get all done up and

1029
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I trying to be so hot

1030
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 1: for Heather? I don't know. You just are. You're gonna

1031
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: be on the front row. You have to be, you

1032
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: have to be so excited. Yes, thank you so much.

1033
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: We'll actually yeah, well maybe schedule a check in and

1034
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: maybe chipping out organized between now and then and you

1035
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: can help us. Okay, okay, I hope you guys learned

1036
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: some tips that Sorry, wow, this ending on our this

1037
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: Edge podcast is always every week, brain just stops like

1038
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, Like I have a stroke

1039
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: and then I try to talk and then I recovering

1040
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: that try again and I have another stroke. But it's

1041
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: like a little more mini maybe I don't know, it's

1042
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: like sta um, I learned a lot today. So Ria,

1043
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: thank you so much. And I hope that you guys

1044
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: when you're going out you're living on the edge and

1045
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: maybe staying organized. Always remember to casually. I