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Speaker 1: my name on the bottom. Ye A lot of things

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Speaker 1: to discuss. Titans Jacksonville Sunday eleven AM Central for the

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Speaker 1: award winning Titans Countdown with Amy Wells and Rhett Brian.

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Speaker 1: Kickoff at twelve or two from Nissan Stadium, a lot

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Speaker 1: of things to watch. We're wondering if Trevor Lawrence is

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Speaker 1: going to play on the Titan side. In some ways,

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Speaker 1: we're wondering who's going to play. A bunch of guys

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Speaker 1: have not practiced this week. Denico Autrey, Trey Avery, c

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Speaker 1: J Board, Traylan Burkes, Christian Fulton, David Long not practice

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Speaker 1: this week. Yeah, so we may see some new faces.

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Speaker 1: Could see Racy McMath for the first time this year,

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Speaker 1: which is something rather exciting that could happen. He's been practicing.

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Speaker 1: Could see John Reid the corner just signed off Atlanti's

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Speaker 1: wait and see. I think it's going to be up

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Speaker 1: in the air. Of course. It's the game is just

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Speaker 1: starting to come back into focus after the Titans relieved

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Speaker 1: John Robinson of his duties on Tuesday morning. And I

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Speaker 1: been asking, I've been asked, and so let's kind of

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Speaker 1: run through three, four, five of them. Number One, when

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Speaker 1: Were we as surprised as everyone else the answers yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: for a team that is obviously on their way, apparently

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Speaker 1: Amy Adams Strunk very obviously is looking towards the future

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Speaker 1: The Titans obviously will draft like everybody else, and that

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Speaker 1: And so by doing this, she is going to be

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Speaker 1: She could take the next couple of weeks, figure out

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Speaker 1: The other part of it, too, is that the Titans

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Speaker 1: to make decisions on those contracts. Yes, the Titans and

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Speaker 1: Titans will enter twenty twenty three over the cap. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's not a situation where after the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: you can do that. But whomever is the new general

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Speaker 1: This is a time where we've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: I would definitely agree. And it feels very much like

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Speaker 1: next year. Well, I think I think it goes even

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Speaker 1: based on saying what we're doing right now is not

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Speaker 1: good enough, and that could be true. Again, she hasn't

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Speaker 1: want to put words in her mouth. In her statement

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Speaker 1: she alluded in that way. You know, this team, for

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Speaker 1: these guys, right, Because if you've if you have good players,

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Speaker 1: can you keep as many as you can and you

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Speaker 1: have to pay them money to stay. You have to

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Speaker 1: make decisions because like Jack Coughlin would have been great

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Speaker 1: if he'd stayed, but the Titans chose to pay Taylor

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Speaker 1: You know, so those were the decisions that they make.

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Speaker 1: They've paid Ben Jones multiple times. You can't keep everybody right,

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Speaker 1: organization works. Nobody wanted to trade A J. Brown. John

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Speaker 1: Robinson told me, and I shared with the OT people

432
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Speaker 1: three weeks before he said I don't want to trade him.

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Speaker 1: This happened when it became obvious at the end, when

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Speaker 1: they said we can keep going and it's going to

435
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Speaker 1: be a holdout and a whole thing and it's or

436
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Speaker 1: we can get something right now and we can try

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Speaker 1: to make the best of it, and that's what they

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Speaker 1: that's what they did. So the thought of her being

439
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Speaker 1: surprised by this news when if you understand how closely

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Speaker 1: she works with everything and she knows what's going on

441
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Speaker 1: because she's so interested and involved. Yes, and also was

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Speaker 1: physically sitting in the same room with But that process

443
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: started well before well probably I'm gonna guess twenty four

444
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Speaker 1: hours before, right, which is not But they had to

445
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Speaker 1: have discussions in the room about this is what we're

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Speaker 1: going to do, because the whole thing was laid out.

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Speaker 1: The only way they would make the deal was if

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Speaker 1: it was when they were on the clock in order

449
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Speaker 1: to be able to get trailing right, because if they

450
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Speaker 1: jumped too early, somebody would have jumped in front of

451
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Speaker 1: them and grabbed trailn Burks because they would have known

452
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Speaker 1: right here that they were going to have to take

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Speaker 1: trailn Burks right. This was not a situation. Where have

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Speaker 1: you guys seen that movie Draft Day with Kevin Costner. Yes,

455
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Speaker 1: I feel as though, which is a It's a very

456
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Speaker 1: stressful movie by the way, for me, because Kevin Costner

457
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Speaker 1: really accomplishes a lot in twenty four hours, a lot

458
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Speaker 1: more than any human can. But I feel like Jennifer

459
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: Gardner thing either. Yeah, now I understand that. Yeah, it's him.

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Speaker 1: It's a stretch at best. No Kevin Costner happening. Oh

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Speaker 1: I disagree with that just a little bit. But that's

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Speaker 1: neither here nor there. What I'm saying is that is

463
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Speaker 1: a very overdramatized That is not a historical depiction of

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Speaker 1: what happens on a draft day. These are not moves

465
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Speaker 1: that are made within two hours of the draft starting.

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Speaker 1: There are communications, There are bigger things that occur. There

467
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Speaker 1: is more pre planning and conversing and strategizing beyond just

468
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Speaker 1: the massive amount of trades that he made in fifteen

469
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Speaker 1: minutes before they were on the clock. Well, and the ownership.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, there are some owners who are rather

471
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Speaker 1: flamboyant and spectacular and whatever. This owner is in the minutia, Yes,

472
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: in the dirt, wants to know what's going on. Wants

473
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Speaker 1: to understand why Derrick Henry isn't gaining as many yards

474
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Speaker 1: right now, or wants to understand why Jeffrey Simmons is

475
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: the right answer. I mean, think about this, when you

476
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Speaker 1: think about her and you weigh this whole thing for

477
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Speaker 1: context and the ot people get it. I know you do.

478
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Speaker 1: You're saying, Mike, you don't have to say this, but

479
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Speaker 1: I'm going to She wanted to be at the press

480
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Speaker 1: conference with Jeffrey Simmons because she knew everything about the

481
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Speaker 1: situation that he had had in high school. Yep, she

482
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: had been fully brief. They went to her and they said,

483
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: if he's there, we'd like to pick him, but you

484
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: need to know what this is. And so she looked

485
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Speaker 1: at it. She spent that time, and she wanted to

486
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Speaker 1: make sure and come through for him. And after she

487
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Speaker 1: sat down with him, of course there were some people

488
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Speaker 1: who let the Titans have it after they picked him, Okay,

489
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: but after she sat down at that press conference, all

490
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Speaker 1: that stuff stop. All of it. Now. It's also because

491
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Speaker 1: he has been a great citizen and a great player.

492
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Speaker 1: But she gave him that chance to have the clean

493
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Speaker 1: start because she understood what had happened, what it meant,

494
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Speaker 1: why it had happened, what he had said about it,

495
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: his incredible remorse about it. Everything had gone on three

496
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Speaker 1: years at Mississippi State, where he had been pristine in

497
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Speaker 1: terms of how he had conducted himself. She knew, Yep,

498
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: she always knows. She's involved. She's involved, and whether you

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Speaker 1: agree or whether you disagree, or and listen that's your

500
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: right as a fan. I'm not going to tell you

501
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Speaker 1: what to think. I'm gonna tell you what I think sometimes,

502
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Speaker 1: and Amy's gonna say what she thinks. You have every right,

503
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: You have every right to think whatever, because we're we're

504
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: happy you support this team and that you follow this team,

505
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: and that's what being a fan is. But what you

506
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: what you cannot forget is you can never forget that

507
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: she's in the middle of it. And that's a that's

508
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: a big thing that we understand, you know. It's why

509
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: when we got the word, we were dumbfounded because we

510
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: didn't see it coming. Just like the public, we knew

511
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Speaker 1: it would be the sports story of the day, which

512
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: it was because it was an unusual happening. But we

513
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: also knew her well enough to know that there was

514
00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: rationale behind this. Yes, that there was a thought process

515
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: behind it that wasn't just I'm hot because this game happened,

516
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: and this happened, and so now I'm I'm doing this

517
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: and knowing that having that context and feeling like you

518
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: could trust the person who is in charge of this

519
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: organization is why I feel so good about being a

520
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: part of this club. Is because I know that I

521
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: can trust the ownership because I know that what she

522
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: wants to win. Yeah, I know that her motivations are

523
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: the organization as a whole. She wants to win, she

524
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: wants to keep winning. She wants a Super Bowl bag. Oh,

525
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: I know. But she also doesn't want to go through

526
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: a giant downturn. She doesn't want to. She wants to

527
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Speaker 1: find a way to keep it rolling in the next wave.

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Speaker 1: And and you know, like I said earlier, the feelings

529
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Speaker 1: that we have and then she has about John Robinson

530
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: don't change based on the fact that she felt like

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Speaker 1: she needed to make a change. It doesn't diminish any

532
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Speaker 1: part of what his legacy is here, which is, you know,

533
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: vitally important. Absolutely, the Titans aren't where they are right

534
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: now without John Robins. But she hired him. Yeah, she

535
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: knows what she did. She saw that and the other

536
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Speaker 1: candidates she had in then. I mean, it was an

537
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Speaker 1: impressive group of people, and she said, this is who

538
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: we need right now. And so what she's going to

539
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: look for in the next few weeks is this is

540
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: who we need right now, This is who we need

541
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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty three and beyond. Wow, Well that's the

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Speaker 1: I mean you know, I thought we had to talk

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Speaker 1: about it. Yeah. Yeah, And with a couple of days

544
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Speaker 1: to kind of sift through it a little bit, I thought, there,

545
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: maybe we're some things the OT people would want to

546
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: know that we could maybe fill in some blanks. Yeah,

547
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: provide some insight in some contacts. That's what we're here.

548
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: That was beat Jacksonville. Heck, yes, man, that's what I'm

549
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: here for. That would change the conversation very nicely and

550
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: and move it forward quite well. And beating Jacksonville's just fun,

551
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: it just really is. I think Derrick Henry's going to

552
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: play well. He does historically he gives it to him

553
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: pretty good. Now. It's always fun to play the hometown dude.

554
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: He's They gear up for him and they know it's coming.

555
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: And you know, the hard to take down there too

556
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: is they love him down there, They love him, They

557
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: love him so much and so it is so painful

558
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: for them to see him because they can't hate him.

559
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: They absolutely cannot hate him because they love him. I know,

560
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: he's from Uley, he's their guys, their guys. They couldn't

561
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 1: hate him when he was at Alabama. Nope, Nope, there's

562
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Speaker 1: murals there. I mean they love him down there, and

563
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Speaker 1: and then two times a year he just gives it

564
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: right to him and they just have to say thank

565
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Speaker 1: you and keep loving him. And it's great. All right,

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Speaker 1: in Kevin Costner. Did he listen to this show? I

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Speaker 1: I love yellow st I got you started on yellow

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Speaker 1: I got you started. Well. I like Kevin Costner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that pairing just didn't work him and Jennifer Gardner. No,

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Speaker 1: it didn't work, No making sense. Did I think Kevin

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Speaker 1: Costner can do whatever he wants? Wow? Listen to that

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Speaker 1: take on Jacksonville. Let's go. We to wrap this up,

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Speaker 1: Craby Wells, I'm Mike Keith wrapping it up as fast

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