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Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Dan Harris. You can find me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at Dan Harris Ady. Earlier this week we broke

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Speaker 1: down some of the over unders for the AFC. Today,

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Speaker 1: we're going to tackle the NFC with me to do that.

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Speaker 1: As Ian McMillan a writer over at oddshark dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can follow him on Twitter at Ian mac os

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Speaker 1: that's I a I n mac os Ian. How are you

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Speaker 1: holding up with no live sports? If you found anything

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Speaker 1: to quench your gambling thirst?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been bet betting on Madden simulations, to be

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Speaker 2: completely honest. Yeah, I mean they're a complete coin toss,

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Speaker 2: but at least gives me something if I close my eyes.

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Speaker 2: It kind of sounds like it's actual NFL so.

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Speaker 1: Sportscasters, but the sportscasters are really good. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm Madden at least on on Madden twenty. Like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a huge gamer or anything, but they're really

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Speaker 1: sound realists. Like the commentary is actually kind of decent. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you close your eyes, you might think you're in

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Speaker 1: a real sporting event.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, So that's what's getting me through the days

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Speaker 2: nowas and.

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Speaker 1: If I remember you, like you were sort of the

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Speaker 1: master of everything, right, so this must be crazy for you.

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Speaker 1: You've never been well you you could write if I

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Speaker 1: remember reading some of your stuff, like, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: weren't limited to baseball and football. You ran the gamut

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Speaker 1: right in terms of what you covered over there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did a little bit of everything. So it's uh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: tough time for me, man. Yeah, I mean golf hopefully

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Speaker 2: so that's some light at the end of the tunnel,

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And again, you know, the powers that be are

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Speaker 1: at least sort of. It seems like everybody understands that

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Speaker 1: sports are important, you know, in the grand scheme of things.

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Speaker 1: Of course, not given what everybody's dealing with, but overall,

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Speaker 1: it's just important for the psyche of the country, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we you know that this would we'd all

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Speaker 1: be able to deal with this a little better if

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Speaker 1: there was you know, I have baseball on right now,

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Speaker 1: especially when football comes back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what sports are. They're an escape

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Speaker 2: for everyone, and now more than ever, we kind of

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Speaker 2: need an escape from things. So yeah, yeah, hopefully they

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Speaker 2: come back.

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Speaker 1: So well, the NFL continues to roll around, roll along

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Speaker 1: as we're getting right to the draft, So let's jump

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Speaker 1: into some NFC over unders here. As usual, we're going

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Speaker 1: to be using the consensus odds over at bettingpros dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's the aggregate of the odds that are available at

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Speaker 1: the various sportsbooks where you can place the bet and

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Speaker 1: you can find those over at bettingpros dot com slash

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Speaker 1: NFL dash wins. And if you're interested in the draft,

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Speaker 1: I just said it's coming up, you can go to

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Speaker 1: betting pros dot com slash Draft dash Props. You can

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Speaker 1: get consensus odds on pretty much any possible prop bet

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Speaker 1: that you can place on the draft coming up next week,

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Speaker 1: and we will be doing an episode next week on

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Speaker 1: those draft props, but in the meantime you want to

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Speaker 1: check them out, you can go over there bettingpros dot

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Speaker 1: com slash Draft hyphen Props. All right, Ian, let's get

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Speaker 1: started with the NFC East here. This is a division

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Speaker 1: that's kind of broken down into the haves and the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Eagles, both of which are over under

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Speaker 1: the Redskins at an over under of five. Any of

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Speaker 2: I kind of like the Cowboys over, to be completely honest.

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Speaker 2: They are actually tied for the second easiest schedule this

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Speaker 2: It looks like so, I mean, they should have got

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Speaker 1: perfectly capable. He'll see an increase from the thirty nine

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Speaker 1: Like I can't see them beating the Ravens in Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean those are all fair points. One

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Speaker 1: got Adam Gaze as opposed to Mike McCarthy. Now, that

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's all in on analytics now, right, you spend

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Speaker 2: Now, I mean, there's another coaching change in the NFC's

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Speaker 2: an effect on that. But four wins last year for

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Speaker 2: the Giants over under six this year? Can they improve

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Speaker 2: For the Giants? That's a little bit tough to tell.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this time we're on the same side. That was

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Speaker 1: the under on six. Yeah, they just really haven't done

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Speaker 1: you know, they they've got what the fourth overall picks,

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Speaker 1: so you know, everybody thinks they're gonna take Simmons, you know,

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Speaker 1: of Jones. But you know, again, their schedule, just like

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Speaker 1: still need three more wins. They get the Ravens of Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: which should be improved, the forty nine Ers, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll touch on this before we go.

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Speaker 1: There's one other coaching change and that's the Redskins. You know,

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Speaker 2: But probably the biggest one I would lean towards is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, So, I mean you touched on them,

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Speaker 1: the idea that Devin Funches is gonna solve all this. Now,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think nine is probably the right number. Like

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Speaker 1: There's just been to me, there's been a really bad

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I would be surprised if he makes it

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Speaker 2: So what do you think here, Well, I mean the

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Speaker 2: used to be. And same with the Bucks. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the Bucks win total, their Super Bowl odds, all their

430
00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,120
Speaker 2: futures shot up when they got Tom Brady. I mean

431
00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,959
Speaker 2: I don't think I mean Tom Brady. I mean, you

432
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 2: can't play at a high level that Tom Brady plays

433
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Speaker 2: at forever. I mean, what is he now, forty two

434
00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,639
Speaker 2: years old. He didn't look good last year, and I

435
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,159
Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna get better on the Bucks. He

436
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,320
Speaker 2: obviously has a little bit more offensive weapons on the

437
00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,119
Speaker 2: Bucks than he did in the Patriots last year. But

438
00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,040
Speaker 2: I mean father time at some point is going to

439
00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,000
Speaker 2: catch up to Tom Brady, and we saw flashes of

440
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 2: that last year. So I don't think Tom Brady is

441
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Speaker 2: worth as much as what the odds makers are making

442
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 2: him worth for the Bucks. So I like the Under

443
00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,040
Speaker 2: and the Bucks. I like the Under and the Saints,

444
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,720
Speaker 2: and then the over and the Falcons and then the Panthers.

445
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 2: I just stay away from that team because I don't

446
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 2: even know. I don't even know who's like who's going

447
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 2: to be at quarterback. Well, no, it's gonna be Teddy Bridgewater.

448
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 2: But they just signed Christi McCaffrey to a big deal.

449
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 2: That's always a little bit of curse for running back

450
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 2: late least getting signed to a big deal. So Panthers

451
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 2: are just a little bit of a question for me.

452
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,879
Speaker 2: I'd stay away from from the Panthers win total.

453
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Speaker 1: All right. I like the strong takes, and as somebody

454
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,359
Speaker 1: who's old himself, I take a little bit of offense. So

455
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 1: how bad you're hitting on these older quarterbacks? But yeah,

456
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 1: so here, First of all, you seem just to be

457
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Speaker 1: clear that you said over Falcons, and I get that

458
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,560
Speaker 1: you're a Falcons fan, but I assume that you're able

459
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Speaker 1: to put that aside when you're assessing the team that's

460
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Speaker 1: your favorite over under of the NFC. Is that what

461
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 1: you're saying?

462
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, I already know I'm going to be placing.

463
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 2: I want to see how the draft goes because I

464
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,359
Speaker 2: need to see who they're going to take in the

465
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Speaker 2: first round. It's it's hopefully going to be either pass

466
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 2: rusher defensive back. But I plan on making a very

467
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 2: sizable bet on the over on their win total this season.

468
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Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, So I mean, I I lean towards the

469
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 1: over as well, but I don't feel all that strongly

470
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Speaker 1: about it. And you know, for me, it's again, offensively,

471
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 1: they should largely look the same, right, I mean, they

472
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: got rid of DeVonta Freeman, but they added in Todd Gurley.

473
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: They got rid of Austin Hooper, but they got Hayden Hurst,

474
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,879
Speaker 1: which to me, I don't really think that's a huge

475
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,920
Speaker 1: difference when I'm looking at it. I hope Austin Hooper

476
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Speaker 1: fans don't yell at me, but you know, you get

477
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 1: another growth from Calvin Ridley. They were fifteenth in offensive

478
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: DBOA last year, so I think they'll be fine offensively,

479
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 1: and again as always, they've got to find a way

480
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: to stay healthy on defense, and they added Dante Fowler

481
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: so they'll have a better pass rush. For me, the

482
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Speaker 1: reason why I'm not, you know, jumping for joy about

483
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Speaker 1: them is, you know, the schedule. Again, We've talked about

484
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: it a lot here. Don't go crazy with opponent's win percentage,

485
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 1: but it's the fifth toughest tide and you know, the

486
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Speaker 1: division outside of the Panthers is tough. You know, I'm

487
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Speaker 1: not ready to you know, I'm not saying you're writing

488
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Speaker 1: them off. But I do think the Bucks are probably

489
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Speaker 1: a better team. I do think the Saints are certainly

490
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Speaker 1: a better team. And when you look at their schedule

491
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Speaker 1: outside of the Division, They're at Green Bay, They're at Arrowhead,

492
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Speaker 1: They've obviously got to go, you know, at New Orleans

493
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Speaker 1: one of the games, and at Tampa, they've got to

494
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Speaker 1: go at Minnesota, at Dallas. They've got tough road games.

495
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: Those games are tough to win, right because they've got

496
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Speaker 1: a pretty nice little home field going on there. So

497
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Speaker 1: that's really what worries me a little bit about them,

498
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Speaker 1: and the reason again, if I'm going one way or

499
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Speaker 1: the other, I'm going over and it is one of

500
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Speaker 1: the ones that I like better. I don't love this

501
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Speaker 1: division at all, but it is one of the ones

502
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Speaker 1: I liked a little bit better. But I would go

503
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Speaker 1: over a little bit with them, but not jumping for

504
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Speaker 1: joy because of the schedule, because how tough their road

505
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Speaker 1: games is, you know what I'm saying.

506
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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, And the biggest concern for me with the Falcons,

507
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Speaker 2: especially on offense. Obviously talented at almost every single position,

508
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 2: but it is their offensive line. I'm a big believer

509
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Speaker 2: in trenches. The Trench's offensive and defensive line are the

510
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: most important positions on a football team, and their offensive

511
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 2: line is questionable. Now. They were a little bit banged

512
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Speaker 2: up last season, but two of their starters last season

513
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 2: were rookies, so having a season under the belt for

514
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 2: both rookies, I'm hoping their offensive line gets better. They

515
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: have to because their offensive line was a big issue

516
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Speaker 2: last year. So if there was one concern that I

517
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Speaker 2: would have on the Falcons hitting the over on their

518
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 2: win total, it's their offensive line.

519
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair. The other one I like,

520
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: and again you went the other way on this one,

521
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 1: which is totally fair, and all your points you brought up,

522
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: I kind of like the Saints over actually, and look,

523
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: they've got at least eleven wins in three straight years.

524
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Speaker 1: They finally got Breeze a second receiver that he could

525
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Speaker 1: rely on. It's not you know, Ted Gin anymore or

526
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Speaker 1: Trakeon Smith. It's Emanuel Sanders, So I think it's kind

527
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 1: of a perfect fit for that team. They also added

528
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, Malcolm Jenkins that safety, so I think he's

529
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Speaker 1: going to improve their defense. Their schedule it lays out

530
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 1: pretty well for them, and most of their tough games.

531
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Speaker 1: The Chiefs, the forty nine Ers, the Packers, the Vikings,

532
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 1: all of those are at home, which is a major

533
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Speaker 1: advantage for the Saints. And look, Breeze is certainly not

534
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Speaker 1: exactly what he once was. I mean, his completion percentage

535
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: still mind boggling, but he doesn't have the arm strength

536
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: that he used to or anything like that. But a

537
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Speaker 1: when you get him another receiver like they did and

538
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: b bottom line is, you know, Teddy Bridgewater is not

539
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Speaker 1: anywhere in the same class as Breeze, and they still

540
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Speaker 1: win I believe five and oh when Bridgewater was in

541
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Speaker 1: their last year. So I think even if Breeze starts

542
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Speaker 1: dropping off, and I don't expect him to drop off

543
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Speaker 1: a cliff, that's the thing. I don't think it's gonna

544
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Speaker 1: be the There's always the risk that it's Peyton Manning

545
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,239
Speaker 1: in his final year right where you know there are

546
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: maybe a few signs the year before, but you certainly

547
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Speaker 1: don't expect him to come out and be like, all

548
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden, can't throw whatsoever. There's always that risk

549
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: when you get to this stage. But I haven't really

550
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: seen enough signs on it from Breeze, so I'm certainly

551
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: expecting him to be even if he's not what he

552
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Speaker 1: was last year, not to fall off a cliff. And

553
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: I think the Saints, you know, their offensive scheme as

554
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Speaker 1: you saw with Bridgewater, adding in Emmanuel Sanders gives them

555
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Speaker 1: enough to be able to get to eleven wins here.

556
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you made some good points there. One thing I

557
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: had looked at that kind of now and whether or

558
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Speaker 2: not I would go the under in the wing total

559
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: is the fact that their toughest games are at home.

560
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: That's a really good point. They have a massive home

561
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 2: field advantage, right, So yeah, you convinced me from saying

562
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Speaker 2: that I would take the under and that to now

563
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 2: it's a stay away from me.

564
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Speaker 1: Yes, you are right, That's all I've ever wanted. There

565
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: is one thing that we I think we'd be remiss

566
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Speaker 1: if we didn't point out, which is we don't know

567
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: for sure that they're going to be playing these games

568
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Speaker 1: in this schedule in the way it's slid out now, right.

569
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Speaker 1: We really don't know whether or not it's somehow going

570
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Speaker 1: to be in other stadiums in other places. So when

571
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Speaker 1: you're making your bets, you obviously have to factor that,

572
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Speaker 1: and for now, I think you go forward and personally,

573
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Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I mean, I am expecting

574
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Speaker 1: them to figure out a way to play the games

575
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Speaker 1: as normally for basically an entire season. Now what there

576
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Speaker 1: That means there are no fans in the stadium, which

577
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Speaker 1: is probably what I expect. That's fine, but I do

578
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Speaker 1: and that may take away, by the way, from the

579
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Speaker 1: home field advantage. Of course, without without saying, unless you're Atlanta, right,

580
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: your boys who can pop in some maybe they should

581
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: just allow everyone to do that, just say, all right,

582
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: get your get a tape of all your crowd noise,

583
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: that you get pump, but that that is gonna affect something.

584
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: But still again, even so, I still think just generally

585
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: being at home, being in a dome, it's just better

586
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: for Breeze than the Saints. So it is something where

587
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: I lean over. And you know, I also not that

588
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: I let this factor in, but I'd like to see

589
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Speaker 1: Breeze be able to take one home. And I think

590
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: you still got enough left in the tank. And I

591
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: think when he doesn't, he's gonna walk away from the game.

592
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be Brady, who's really probably gonna hold

593
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Speaker 1: on until no team will sign him. Essentially, so that

594
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: could be forever. But let's move on here to our

595
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: final division, the NFC West. You've got the forty nine

596
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Speaker 1: ers over under of ten and a half, the Seahawks

597
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Speaker 1: and over under of nine and a half, the Rams

598
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Speaker 1: and over under of eight and a half, and the

599
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Speaker 1: Cardinal's over under seven. So no real black sheep in

600
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Speaker 1: this division at this point. How are you feeling about

601
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Speaker 1: this one?

602
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Speaker 2: Uh? The one I like the most is the Rams

603
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: over eight and a half. I mean, this is a

604
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Speaker 2: team that was in the Super Bowl a couple of

605
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: years ago. Obviously, the big determining factor of how they're

606
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: going to do this season is Jared Goff. He did

607
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: not look great last season. He was probably the biggest

608
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: reason why they didn't make the playoffs. I don't think

609
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 2: he's a great quarterback. I don't think he's a top

610
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: five quarterback, maybe not even a top ten quarterback. But

611
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: I think he is better than what he was last year.

612
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: Eight and a half's two low number for a team.

613
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm still a big Sean McVeigh believer. I think he

614
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: is one of the best coaches in the league. So

615
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: I think it's just too low of a win total

616
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: for a team with that much talent on the roster,

617
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: and that could have a head coach. I like the

618
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 2: over on that one. The other one that I'd be

619
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 2: looking at in that division is the under in the Cardinals.

620
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: Because I'm not a believer whatsoever in Kyler Murray, I

621
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: need to see more of him. I just think he

622
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: looks to run with the ball too much than too yeah,

623
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: too much than that I would like in a quarterback.

624
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: I think I'd rather like to see him use his

625
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: feet to gain more time in the pocket. But it

626
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: seems like he pulls the ball down and looks for

627
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 2: areas to run a little bit too quickly when he's

628
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: dropping back and going through his progression. So seven I

629
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: think is too many, too many wins for the Cardinals.

630
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: So the two that I liked the most would be

631
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: the under and the Cardinals and the over in the Rams.

632
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Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, so I don't I don't have a strong

633
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: feeling on the Rams. I think if I were to

634
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: go one way, it would probably be the over. They

635
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: haven't had a great I mean they obviously, you know,

636
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: they had no calf space whatsoever. So they got rid

637
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: of Girly and they got rid of Cooks who didn't

638
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: really do all that much. And yeah, golf struggled, but

639
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: really that was because of the offensive line. And I'm

640
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: not sure how much better it's going to be this year.

641
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: And you know, something that people haven't really talked about

642
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: that much is Wade Phillips has gone. He's not gonna

643
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Speaker 1: be the defensive coordinator and I think he had kind

644
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: of a big impact. But even then, they still are

645
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: a very talented team even with all these warts. And

646
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: I know they only went nine and seven last year,

647
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: but I agree with you that I think McVeigh is

648
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: going to be able to make certain adjustments, you know,

649
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: seeing what he did last year to get them tonight wins.

650
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: So I lean over a little bit.

651
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: Now.

652
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't have a strong feeling on the Cardinals. I

653
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: think seven sounds about right to me, But it is

654
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: surprising to me. I think that you view this right

655
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: out of the gate as a six win team. Look,

656
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,959
Speaker 1: they went five ten and one last year, so they

657
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: almost won six games. I think you can. You know,

658
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: for me, I'm expecting Kyler Murray to take a step forward,

659
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, and obviously they added DeAndre Hopkins and you

660
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: know they'll have Kenyan Drake the entire year. So I

661
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: do think you know, Murray, you're worried about him looking

662
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: to run every time he has the ball, Maybe he

663
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: won't as much now, both with just natural growth that

664
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: comes from your second year and also the fact that

665
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: he has a legitimate stud wide receiver out there. They also,

666
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, they added a couple of pieces on defense.

667
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: You know, they had a Canar, they had a Jordan Phillips,

668
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: they had a Devandra Campbell. So it is going to

669
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: be an improved team. It's to be clear, I don't

670
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: like either side of this bet. It's a tough division,

671
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: the schedule's not great, and seven strikes me as a

672
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: pretty solid But it just surprised me because you seem

673
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: pretty big on the under here.

674
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just I mean, and this is a take

675
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: going into the NFL draft last year when Kyler Murray

676
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: was being drafted. I've never thought that he was going

677
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: to be a great NFL quarterback. So it was kind

678
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: of a hot take that I had to put out there.

679
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: And I'm just sticking to my guns. That's all right,

680
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't know, I don't know. Their

681
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: wins last year weren't by a whole lot of points.

682
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 2: They beat the Falcons in a game they should not

683
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: have won by one point. They barely got by the Bengals,

684
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: and another win, barely got by the Giants, and another win.

685
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just not a Kyler Murray believer.

686
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: Seven wins. I just think it's too many. But I mean,

687
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: you made good points. They have. They have had a

688
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 2: good offseason so far. I mean, you can't argue with

689
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: bringing in DeAndre Hopkins. I mean, obviously that's a huge upgrade.

690
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: They have a very good receiving course. So this is

691
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Speaker 2: when I could see myself being dead wrong and to

692
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 2: be completely honest, but I from what I've seen from

693
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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, I just I don't think he's a quarterback

694
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Speaker 2: that can lead that team to over seven wins.

695
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Speaker 1: Well we did, you know see last year that winning

696
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: the with the Browns, winning the offseason does not mean,

697
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, success translating to the actual season. But I

698
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: am more bullish on Murray, you know, especially with I

699
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: agree that he he didn't really you know, there were

700
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: plenty of parts of his game that needed improvement. But

701
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Speaker 1: you know, again I give rookies. For a rookie quarterback,

702
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,479
Speaker 1: I was pretty impressed with what he was able to do,

703
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: even if there were many games where I was like, ah,

704
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: I don't understand what's happening right now, and I don't.

705
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm not like in love with the system you know

706
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: that they have there with Kingsbury. I understand it's it's

707
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: it's solid and and you know, it works in college

708
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: and it works in the NFL. But I'm not like

709
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: overly in love with that still. I think you add

710
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, you give him Kenyan Drake Coo. I think

711
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: he is for that system, a perfect fit. I'm a

712
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: little more bullish on them again, not something where I

713
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: really love it on either side of the seven. I

714
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: was just a little more surprised that you were. You know, yeah,

715
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Speaker 1: I'm going with the the under on this, the one

716
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Speaker 1: that I kind of like, and oh way, I don't

717
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: even want to have to justify this because I look

718
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: at it and I'm just like, I shouldn't because they

719
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: were so overrated last year. They should not have been

720
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: eleven and five. But I kind of like the Seahawks

721
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: over nine and a half. I mean, the team is

722
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: pretty intact, and they've added a little bit on their

723
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: offensive line. They've added greg Olsen on their defense. You know,

724
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: they resigned reed, they added Bruce Irvin, they traded for

725
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: Quintin Dunbar for nothing. Basically, I don't know if they're

726
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: gonna get clowney. I'd like to see them get clowny.

727
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: It would make me feel a lot better about it

728
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: if he stops asking for you know, twenty million a year,

729
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: whatever he's asking for. They weren't an eleven win team.

730
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: But again, you look at their schedule. You know, this

731
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: year they get the AFC East, which I think is

732
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: a relatively easy division. You know, they'll get the Jets,

733
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: they'll get the Dolphins. I'm of the view right now

734
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: that the Patriots are not going to be a particularly

735
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: impressive team. I realize that that's blasphemy even without Brady

736
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: to bet against Belichick, but you know, to me, I

737
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: think that's a game they can win. They get the Redskins,

738
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: they have a lot of winnable games there, and then

739
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, they get a couple of their tough games,

740
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Speaker 1: like before they get the Vikings, they get the Cowboys,

741
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: both at home. That's a really tough place to play,

742
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: and you know, they're a better team in my mind

743
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: than the Rams. And the Cardinals. So I think when

744
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: you add that all up, and again, no matter what happens,

745
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: if they ever just stop doing the Brian Schottenheimer, let's

746
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: just run the ball on first down and run the

747
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: ball on second down, and maybe if we fall behind,

748
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: we'll let Russell Wilson be Russell Wilson where we're ten

749
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: times as good as we are otherwise. I do think

750
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: in the end that he's just a guy who as

751
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: long as they are relatively intact offensively, he'll get them

752
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: to ten wins. So I kind of like the Seahawks

753
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: over nine and a half. I don't love it, but

754
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: if there was one bet for me in the division,

755
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: it would be the Seahawks slight lean to over nine

756
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: and a half.

757
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do like that. Pick one thing that does

758
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: worry me about the Seahawks. You made a lot of

759
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: good points there the Seahawks last season. If you took

760
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: every team in the NFL in each one score game,

761
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: you reverse the result, the Seahawks would have worst record

762
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: at the NFC, I believe. So. They won a lot

763
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: of very close games last year. So that is a

764
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: big reason why I'm a little bit worried to take

765
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: the over nine, but Russell Wilson, I mean I think

766
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 2: he's a I mean we're not talking MVP odds, but

767
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 2: I think he's actually a sleeper to win MVP this season.

768
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: He was close to winning it last season. I think

769
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson is one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

770
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: So it's I can't take an under nine for a

771
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: team that I think as an MVP caliber quarterback. And

772
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: we were talking about Kyler Murray. If Kyler Murray wants

773
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: to study a guy that he can replicate and have

774
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: success with, it's Russell Wilson. That's what he needs to

775
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 2: look at. And I don't know if maybe I'm just

776
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: comparing the two because they're both short, and as a

777
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: fellow short guy, I can say that short quarterbacks have

778
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of a tough time. So Russell Wilson

779
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: uses his feet in the right way, though, He uses

780
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 2: his feet to gain more time in the pocket and

781
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 2: behind the line of scrimmage instead of just tucking the

782
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: ball and looking for a place to run all the time.

783
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: So if Kyler Murray wants to look at a guy

784
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: that he can replicate and have success with, it's Russell Wilson.

785
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: So it's hard for me to take an under that

786
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 2: Seahawks win total of nine with Russell Wilson. But it's

787
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: hard for me to take the over just given how

788
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: many how many close games there in last year. And

789
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: the other point that you made, which is a good point,

790
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: is they just gotta they gotta stop running the ball

791
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 2: so much. They need to just because and that's a

792
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: lot of the reasons why they won these close games.

793
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: It's because late in the games, it'd be they were

794
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: barely winning or they were losing, and then they would

795
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: just let Russell Wilson be Russell Wilson, and then Russell

796
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: Wilson would do Russell Wilson type things and win the

797
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: game for them on like a last second drive or

798
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: something like that. So they just need to they need

799
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: to give the ball to Russell Wilson, even let him

800
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: call plays, sometimes run some no huddle with Russell Wilson.

801
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna find success that way. So it's a stay

802
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: away from me because I just don't know about play

803
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: calling and how many close games there in last year,

804
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: But I like Russell Wilson a lot.

805
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, the reversing of the one score games is actually

806
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: something that we talked about last earlier this week when

807
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: we were talking about the Chargers, because they were the

808
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: opposite if you reversed, right, if you reversed their one

809
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: score games, and I like the Seahawks. They were largely intact.

810
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: Of course, the change in quarterback over there, but that

811
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: was something to be bullish on. So that is a

812
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: really good point. I think of this analogy with baseball,

813
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: where you know, there are sometimes where you have all

814
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: these expected statistics and what things really should be if

815
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: they worked out with expected batting average or you know,

816
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: expected slugging percentage or what people should have done, and

817
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: there are some players that for whatever reason just outperform

818
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: their expected stats. They should be this good, they are

819
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: actually much better. And that's kind of how the Seahawks

820
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: feel to me every time, where yeah, they're not that

821
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: good a team, but I think Wilson is just so good,

822
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: especially when push comes to shove towards the end of

823
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: the games, that he's able to win so many games

824
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: that they really should lose, either because of their game

825
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: plan or just because they were outclassed. It's just how

826
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: good he is. The one point again which I think

827
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: we would be remiss if we didn't talk about, is

828
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: their home field advantage may not be as much of

829
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: a home field advantage if there aren't fans allowed to

830
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: be in the stadium, which is a possibility, And if

831
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: that's the case, then yeah, the fact, you know, one

832
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: of the big things is the quest is so difficult

833
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: to plan because the noise is just sort of kept

834
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: in and it makes it really difficult for all opposing teams.

835
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: If there aren't fans, that home bield advantage probably goes

836
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: out the window a bit. So that is something to

837
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: think about with the Seahawks because if that's true, then

838
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: there you know, games at home, like I just said,

839
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: the Vikings and the Cowboys doesn't look quite as appealing,

840
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

841
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 2: Definitely, And it just just a quick note just about

842
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: home field advantage because I mean, this is this is

843
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: looking like it's gonna be a very real thing that

844
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to consider for the NFL season. Obviously

845
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: with the Seahawks and some other teams. The fans do

846
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: play a big part in home field advantage, but the

847
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 2: biggest part in home field advantage. Everyone talks about the fans,

848
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: but the biggest part is just travel in time zone change.

849
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: Mm hm. So I think in the upcoming NFL season,

850
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: if there is no fans at these games, I think

851
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 2: the public, the public, just public betters are going to

852
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: overvalue that fact, Whereas I think I'm still going to

853
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: consider home field advantage to be to be an important factor,

854
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: just because I think travel and time zone change is

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Speaker 2: advantage more than fans. Now that's a little bit different

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Speaker 2: with the Seahawks because they have that weird stadium that's

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Speaker 2: built to make the crowd noise even louder than what

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Speaker 2: it naturally would be, so might make so fans are

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Speaker 2: more important at the Seahawks stadium than other stadiums. But

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Speaker 2: just a quick note to think about home field advantage

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Speaker 2: from that perspective.

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Speaker 1: A really really good point, absolutely right. I mean, not

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Speaker 1: having to travel and getting to you know, be comfortable

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Speaker 1: and all of that is certainly a big deal, especially

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Speaker 1: for teams on the coast when they play teams from

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Speaker 1: the other coast, that's a big deal. But again, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you talked about it. For certain teams, someone like Seattle,

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Speaker 1: a team like Seattle, the crowd noise is a bigger

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Speaker 1: deal because it keeps it in. But generally speaking, that's

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Speaker 1: a really good point to remember as we get into

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Speaker 1: the season, which is you're right, the public is probably

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Speaker 1: going to be like, oh, well, you know, there's no

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Speaker 1: forget about home field advantage, when realistically there's still certainly

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Speaker 1: going to be a component. Yeah, all right, Ian, that

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Speaker 1: was great. Thanks for coming on the show. It's been

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Speaker 1: a while since we talked. I know, you know again,

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Speaker 1: you've probably got some Madden to go be handicapping over there,

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Speaker 1: so but it was great to catch up remind everybody

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Speaker 1: where they can find more of you in your work

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Speaker 1: when there is more than just Madden simulations of course

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Speaker 1: to look at.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, it's been nice talking to you too. It's

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Speaker 2: just been nice just to talk about sports for a change.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, if anyone wants to follow me in Twitter,

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Speaker 2: that's the best place to keep up with all my stuff.

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned at the top of the show there,

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Speaker 2: Ian mac Os and I have an extra I in Ian,

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Speaker 2: so it's I AI n m Acos on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. Well, thanks again for coming on And when we

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Speaker 1: get into the season and look, I regardless of everything

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Speaker 1: that's going on, I really I do feel confident that

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Speaker 1: there will be a football season in some way, shape

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Speaker 1: or form, So when there is one, I'd love to

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Speaker 1: have you back on Absolutely man, I can't wait, all right,

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Speaker 1: don't forget to head over to Bettingpros dot com to

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Speaker 1: Day props and NFL futures. As I said, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be back on Monday talking about some of our favorite

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Speaker 1: Draft Day props. Thanks again for listening, and I'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you then