WEBVTT - Reaching the Summit

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Good Game of Sarah Spain on Tuesday, November fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>where we're reminding you one more time to make your

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<v Speaker 1>voice heard and vote. On today's show, we're bringing you

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible panel I moderated at last week's espnW Summit,

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<v Speaker 1>featuring some badass leaders from teams across multiple women's pro leagues,

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<v Speaker 1>plus college hoops storylines to watch, some NWSL loose ends,

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<v Speaker 1>and a final ode.

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<v Speaker 2>To Spooky Season. It's all coming up right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, my Lil Orange slices. Here's what you need

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<v Speaker 2>to know today.

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<v Speaker 1>The college basketball season is officially underway and it got

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<v Speaker 1>off to a rock and start thanks to number three

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<v Speaker 1>USC and number twenty ole Miss, who played in Paris

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<v Speaker 1>at the AFLAC we Play event. USC fought off a

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<v Speaker 1>late comeback from ole Miss to grab the sixty eight

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<v Speaker 1>to sixty six win, with Juju Watkins contributing twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>points and ten boards in transfer Kiki eria Fen adding

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus thirteen rebounds.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have more on the return of college hoops in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit to soccer, where we wanted to tie

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<v Speaker 1>up a couple loose ends on the NWSL regular season

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of the start of the playoffs this weekend. So first,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk parody, or, more accurately, the lack of parody.

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<v Speaker 1>The regular season ended with a forty point gap in

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<v Speaker 1>the table. Number one Orlando finished with sixty points, while

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<v Speaker 1>the last place Houston Dash managed just twenty. Per ESPN's

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff cassoof it's the second largest gap in NWSL history.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in twenty eighteen, there was a forty eight point

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<v Speaker 1>gap when the North Carolina team lost just one game

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<v Speaker 1>and Gotham then called Sky.

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<v Speaker 2>Blue, won just one game.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also a huge gap dividing the top four teams

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<v Speaker 1>in the league this year. Wheorlando Washington got them in,

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City are way ahead of everyone else. Number four

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City finished a full sixteen points ahead of the

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<v Speaker 1>number five North Carolina courage to put that in perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>last year, only thirteen points separated at the top ranked

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<v Speaker 1>and last ranked teams.

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<v Speaker 2>In the whole league.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see whether that gap in the table carries over

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<v Speaker 1>to the playoffs during this weekend's quarter final matchups. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>moving on, We also got a shout out Kansas City's

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<v Speaker 1>Temwa Chewinga for winning the Golden Boot in her first

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<v Speaker 1>year in the league front of the Show, scored twenty

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<v Speaker 1>goals in twenty five games to become the first African

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<v Speaker 1>born player to earn the honor. Tewinga entered the Olympic

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<v Speaker 1>Break even with the Orlando's Barber Banda in the Golden

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<v Speaker 1>Boot race, but it was straight up Golabaloza for Chewinga

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<v Speaker 1>during the back half of the season. Banda ended up

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<v Speaker 1>finishing second in the Golden Boot standings with thirteen points

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<v Speaker 1>and Portland Sophia Smith came in third with twelve. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, one of my favorite things on this show

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<v Speaker 1>has been tem Will coming out and saying before the

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<v Speaker 1>season started she thought she would score twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four goals.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't even realize that that would set a record, and

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<v Speaker 2>she called her shot. It worked out.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, here's another wild stat. So Washington's Croubathune finished the

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<v Speaker 1>season with the most assists in the league with ten,

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<v Speaker 1>but she played her last game at the season in August.

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<v Speaker 1>The Rookie of the Year candidate sustained a season ending

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<v Speaker 1>knee injury in August while she was throwing out a

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<v Speaker 1>ceremonial first pitch at the Washington Nationals game and yet

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<v Speaker 1>still finish the season with the most assists.

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<v Speaker 2>That's damn good.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, to golf American, Nelly Korda, clinched her first LPGA

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<v Speaker 1>Player of the Year award on Sunday, given annually to

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<v Speaker 1>the player who accumulates the most points over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. Yeah, the season is still going, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is mathematically impossible for anyone to catch Korda, whose

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four season included six wins on the tour,

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<v Speaker 1>including one major. It's Korda's first time winning the award.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a great guest lined up to chat all

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<v Speaker 1>things college hoops later this week and get you set

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<v Speaker 1>for what should be an incredible season. But since we

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<v Speaker 1>were watching the first few games, we did want to

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<v Speaker 1>give you one storyline will each be watching as the

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<v Speaker 1>action unfolds. I'm gonna start with mine, my first honorable mention.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're not supposed to do this, but the

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<v Speaker 1>technical that Juju Watkins got in their game just reminded

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<v Speaker 1>me of how stupid technical fouls are, especially at the

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<v Speaker 1>collegiate level.

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<v Speaker 3>Let these bitches talk shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, My real actual storyline I will be watching

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<v Speaker 1>actually does include Juju Watkins. So I'm looking for sophomore

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<v Speaker 1>slumps and sophomore star. We saw incredible performances from last

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<v Speaker 1>year's freshman class, and I'm wondering if any of those

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<v Speaker 1>players are going to take a step back this season

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<v Speaker 1>because expectations have ramped up for them, or opposing teams

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<v Speaker 1>have watched a lot of tape on them, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even just team dynamics and rosters shifting. And then secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>on the opposite side of that, we have these sophomore

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<v Speaker 1>superstars who will be the breakout star that separates themselves

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<v Speaker 1>from the pack. My money is on Juju Watkins. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what happened last year as a freshman. But Hannah Hidalgo

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<v Speaker 1>will have something to say about that. Madison Booker, even

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<v Speaker 1>Malaysia ful Wiley, simply due to her incredibly flashy play

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the highlights we saw last year. She

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<v Speaker 1>could really draw a lot of fans and eyeballs. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for sophomore slump and sophomore star. Mesh, what's

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<v Speaker 1>your storyline for me?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so excited about the resurgence of the southern California schools, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to take a.

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<v Speaker 4>Trip out to so Cal because to me is one

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<v Speaker 4>of the most dangerous teams in the field. We know

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<v Speaker 4>they just be ole missing that nail bider yesterday. They've

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<v Speaker 4>got arguably the best player they've had since Cheryl Miller

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<v Speaker 4>on their team and Juju Watkins as you just mentioned.

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<v Speaker 5>And last season was the first number.

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<v Speaker 4>One seed that they had in the NCAA Tournament since

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty six.

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<v Speaker 5>So they've got a lot of good things happening.

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<v Speaker 4>And then UCLA Corey Close has been building them brick

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<v Speaker 4>by brick since twenty eleven, and they've got I think

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<v Speaker 4>enough talent between returners and transfers that they can make

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<v Speaker 4>an even deeper run in this year's tournament. They made

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<v Speaker 4>it to the Sweet sixteen last year, but watch out

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<v Speaker 4>for them. And if you guys don't remember last season,

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<v Speaker 4>the last Pack twelve championship game ever, twot crazy nail bider.

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<v Speaker 2>Between those two teams.

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<v Speaker 4>So I can't wait to watch them matchup again.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a great one, such a fun rivalry. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know people who live in Ohio who bought season

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<v Speaker 1>tickets to UCLA Basketball to try to go as much

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<v Speaker 1>as possible, especially when they're taking on USC bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a hall but worth it? All right, Alex, what's your storyline?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 6>I am super curious to see what Iowa's program looks

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<v Speaker 6>like this year. So context, they finished last season ranked

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<v Speaker 6>number two in the country. They've made it to the

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<v Speaker 6>National Championship Game the last two years in a row.

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<v Speaker 6>Obviously Caitlin Clark huge part of that. But they are

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<v Speaker 6>entering this season outside of the top twenty five in

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<v Speaker 6>the preseason rankings. Y'all know how much I love the

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<v Speaker 6>record books. You know how much I love digging into

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<v Speaker 6>the stats. I want to know, is that a record

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<v Speaker 6>for a team to drop that far from the previous

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<v Speaker 6>season to the start of the new season. It feels

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<v Speaker 6>like it should be a record.

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<v Speaker 2>I have yet to.

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<v Speaker 6>Find the answer. If you know the answer, please hit

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<v Speaker 6>me up. But of course it's a new team. You

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<v Speaker 6>don't have Kitlin Clark. You also have Lisa Bluter, head

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<v Speaker 6>coach who retired, Jan Jensen stepping up taking her place.

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<v Speaker 6>You also have two other seniors that graduated no longer

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<v Speaker 6>with the team, so lots of question marks. I'm super

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<v Speaker 6>curious also to see how Iowa fans respond to this

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<v Speaker 6>Caitlin Clark list team, Because they announced last month that

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<v Speaker 6>they sold out season tickets for a second straight year.

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<v Speaker 6>That is fifteenths of people going to every game. And

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<v Speaker 6>that's what we want to see. That's what people always say,

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<v Speaker 6>right with Kaitlyn Clark, rising tide lifts all ships. We

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<v Speaker 6>want to see Kaitlyn Clark keep people engaged. And so

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<v Speaker 6>what will that engagement look like if this team really

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<v Speaker 6>isn't a top twenty five team. But also maybe they'll

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<v Speaker 6>surprise us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good one too. That's a really interesting drop.

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<v Speaker 2>And you bet that's bulletin board material for them or what.

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<v Speaker 7>Do we call it?

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<v Speaker 2>Pinterests eating good? Pinterests eating good.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to have so much more on this college

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<v Speaker 1>basketball season to come, but coming up next. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of yet another incredible espnW Women

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<v Speaker 1>in Sports summit, and I wanted to share the panel

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<v Speaker 1>that I moderated on expansion excellence. There was so much

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff in this conversation, from the importance of building

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<v Speaker 1>team specific facilities, what to learn from men's sports and

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<v Speaker 1>what to leave behind, prioritizing culture, finding leadership, mentors and more,

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<v Speaker 1>and similarly specific stuff about PWHL expansion, how AU softball

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to pick at cities and really fascinating stuff

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<v Speaker 1>from kim Ang learning from the unfortunate end to her

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<v Speaker 1>time as a GM of the Marlins. So stay tuned

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<v Speaker 1>for that. After the break, we're going to travel to

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful Ohi, California together.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back slices.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I want to introduce you to the incredible women

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<v Speaker 1>from my Expansion Excellence panel at the espnW summit.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's whore.

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<v Speaker 1>I sat down with President of the NWSL Kansas City

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<v Speaker 1>current Raven Jemison, who joined the club in January after

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<v Speaker 1>working in the NBA and the NHL previously, plus the

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<v Speaker 1>first ever GM of the Golden State Valkyries Ohem and Nyanen,

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<v Speaker 1>who joined the expansion team after spending five.

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<v Speaker 2>Years with the New York Liberty. Next up Kim Eng.

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<v Speaker 1>She's currently serving as a senior advisor of the Athletes

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<v Speaker 1>Unlimited Softball League, which will begin play next spring. Also

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<v Speaker 1>spent more than three decades in professional baseball, including serving

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<v Speaker 1>as GM of the Miami Marlins, the first woman to

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<v Speaker 1>be the GM of a major American men's professional sports team,

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<v Speaker 1>and finally the PWHL Senior VP of Business ops Amy Sheer,

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<v Speaker 1>who has a thirty five year sports career, including stops

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<v Speaker 1>in the WNS, NFL and more, before joining that new

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<v Speaker 1>women's hockey league last season. Okay, let's all head out

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<v Speaker 1>to sunny California and listen to that conversation. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>much to talk about, and I want to start with you,

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<v Speaker 1>Raven the casey has gotten so much conversation about the facilities. Rightfully,

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<v Speaker 1>so incredible centerpiece in the community, going to be hosting

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<v Speaker 1>the NWSL championship this year. Those incredible commitments get great publicity,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also then need a long term strategy and

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<v Speaker 1>planning to make them pay off.

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<v Speaker 7>I know that a lot happened before your arrival with

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<v Speaker 7>the team.

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<v Speaker 1>You got there pretty recently, but are there any big

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<v Speaker 1>lessons or takeaways so far when it comes to this

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing process?

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<v Speaker 8>Big lessons? It is awesome to be the first. It

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<v Speaker 8>is even better knowing that you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 8>the last. So I'll start with the lessons that are

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<v Speaker 8>running a stadium. Amy and I were talking about. Stadiums

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<v Speaker 8>have been opened forever. I've been a part of other

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<v Speaker 8>stadium openings, but there's never been one perpose. It's built

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<v Speaker 8>for women in the world, So What comes with that

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<v Speaker 8>is a lot of people asking you what you learned,

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<v Speaker 8>And the big thing that we learned is that operational

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<v Speaker 8>excellence is the same regardless if you have a stadium

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<v Speaker 8>purpose built for women or a stadium that is.

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<v Speaker 5>In a men's league.

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<v Speaker 8>I think what we really want to get across with

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<v Speaker 8>the Current is that we're running a business and at

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<v Speaker 8>the end of the day, we have got to make

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<v Speaker 8>sure that people come back match over match, regardless if

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<v Speaker 8>we're sold out this season. We have to continue that

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<v Speaker 8>going into the next season. We have to create an

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<v Speaker 8>environment where people want to come to CPKC Stadium for

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<v Speaker 8>non KC Current matches. We are hosting the Big Twelve

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<v Speaker 8>Women's Soccer Championship starting tomorrow, and that isn't a division

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<v Speaker 8>playing out in itself. So the lessons are how do

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<v Speaker 8>we press press pause but make sure that we are

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<v Speaker 8>learning match over match, but creating that environment so people

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<v Speaker 8>want to come to something else that is not the

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<v Speaker 8>Kansas City Current, because that's how the business thrives, that's

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<v Speaker 8>how the business grows, and that's how we become again

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<v Speaker 8>not just the first but the example of what is possible.

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<v Speaker 8>So when that next team or next organization is looking

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<v Speaker 8>to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>They had the blueprint.

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<v Speaker 1>Have we been to this stadium yet anybody? It's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>dying to go. And when I love is seeing all

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<v Speaker 1>the photos of the way it really takes over the

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<v Speaker 1>community buildings, buses like wherever you are in case you

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<v Speaker 1>know that that's where the current play which I love

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<v Speaker 1>to see. Ohama nearly twenty thousand season ticket deposits for

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<v Speaker 1>a team with no players.

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<v Speaker 7>Go twenty thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to hear how the Valkyries have leveraged a

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<v Speaker 1>city that already has great enthusiasm for hoops and a

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with a great organization in the Golden State Warriors

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<v Speaker 1>to come out the gates this strong.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, the Bay has been hungry for women women's sports.

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<v Speaker 9>There's a legacy that has already been created prior to

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<v Speaker 9>our ownership group bringing this team over, and I think

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<v Speaker 9>that they're just ready to rally behind what we've already

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<v Speaker 9>put out our brand, the women that are leading the

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<v Speaker 9>team and just really excited to be a part of it.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you mentioned the brand, and I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>not focused on brand creation, but it's impressive just to

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<v Speaker 1>already have us recognize Valkyries violent and see the community

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<v Speaker 1>events and see the pop ups with the different local

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<v Speaker 1>folks that are bringing enthusiasm. There's a real intention there,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is quite clear. How do you see

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<v Speaker 1>the balance of being an independent Valkyries team while also

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<v Speaker 1>benefiting from how much you can gather and learn from

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<v Speaker 1>the Warriors.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I think the benefit is it's abundant. Like, I

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<v Speaker 9>don't know how else to say it. The sky is

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<v Speaker 9>the limit. I think that the ownership group has done

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<v Speaker 9>an amazing job of bringing us both together to know

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<v Speaker 9>that we can strong in our own right and that

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<v Speaker 9>whatever journey that we have, we can.

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<v Speaker 3>Be strong in it. Like there's no I guess like

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<v Speaker 3>comparison between the two.

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<v Speaker 9>Like the legacy of the Warriors is the legacy of

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<v Speaker 9>the Warriors and the legacy of the Valkyries is about

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<v Speaker 9>to be written.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just happy that a team like the Warriors that

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<v Speaker 1>set so many standards in the NBA, and players like

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<v Speaker 1>Steph Curry who've been such great advocates for women athletes

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<v Speaker 1>have this opportunity because I think I think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>crush it already.

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<v Speaker 7>Are twenty thousand Gee's.

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<v Speaker 1>Kim the AUSL was inaugural season in twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>will be a touring league and then the games will

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<v Speaker 1>be in six to eight different cities, and then in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six it will transition to a city based league.

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<v Speaker 7>Can you share how athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>U Limited Topall league will be different from previous AU

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<v Speaker 1>Softball and then why this iteration will start on tour

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<v Speaker 1>for its first year.

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<v Speaker 11>Sure in terms of how it's different, before we were

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<v Speaker 11>we had a leader board points system, and now we're

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<v Speaker 11>going to a more traditional format with teams, with head

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<v Speaker 11>coaches and general managers. In terms of twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 11>and its touring model, we thought it would be a

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<v Speaker 11>great idea to go out and basically test different markets.

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<v Speaker 11>So during this process we've gone to dozens of different

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<v Speaker 11>markets in nearly twenty states, talk to them about AUSL,

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<v Speaker 11>talk to them about what's different, and really tried to,

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<v Speaker 11>I think bring a more of a brand awareness out

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<v Speaker 11>there and so, you know, auditioning a bit and we'll

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<v Speaker 11>get to see live what it looks like, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>in these eight different markets and then and then bring

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<v Speaker 11>it to you know, toaching them to cities, touching the

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<v Speaker 11>teams to cities for twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 10>Are they tryouts then in these cities to see who responds?

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<v Speaker 11>Right, Well, I think it's more. I wouldn't call it

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<v Speaker 11>a tryout, but I think it's you know, making sure

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<v Speaker 11>that the mechanics are correct and that the support from

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<v Speaker 11>the local community is what we want.

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<v Speaker 1>It's smart to learn the logistics in practice, as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to assumptions that, yeah, that's really smart. Amy, you joined

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<v Speaker 1>the PWHL two months before puck drop of the inaugural season.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been several pro women's hockey leagues before this one.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you take from watching those leagues and how

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<v Speaker 1>were you intentional about creating something that you think can

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<v Speaker 1>be successful and sustainable.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think what's different about us is both sides

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<v Speaker 5>of the house. One from a hockey perspective, we have

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred and fifty of the best hockey players in

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<v Speaker 5>the world. This is the first time all the hockey

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<v Speaker 5>players that lead in terms of skill are all in

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<v Speaker 5>one place. So every night the game is great. We've

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<v Speaker 5>had no blowouts in season one. Every game is close.

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<v Speaker 5>The level of hockey is unbelievable, So that's number one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 5>On the other side is that we're single entity and

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<v Speaker 5>that really have not been done in hockey before. So

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<v Speaker 5>we come to work every day, whether you're with the

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<v Speaker 5>league or with the team, you have a PWHL email address.

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<v Speaker 5>So while the teams want to win on the ice,

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<v Speaker 5>I think off the ice, were one big, happy family

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<v Speaker 5>and we all help each other. So every day everybody

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<v Speaker 5>goes to work with the same goals, and that's to

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<v Speaker 5>move the sport of hockey forward. It is to bring

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<v Speaker 5>fans into the games, engage them at the highest quality

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<v Speaker 5>that we can, and get more kids into play hockey.

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<v Speaker 5>So we moved together very intentional as a staff, with

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<v Speaker 5>the same goals whether you're with the team or the league,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think that's very different than how other leagues

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<v Speaker 5>have approached their business. So it's nice that we're aligned

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<v Speaker 5>and together we move forward.

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<v Speaker 1>And an incredible job of getting to the people and

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<v Speaker 1>making them aware that it was happening, because records of

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<v Speaker 1>attendance were broken left and right. To do that an

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<v Speaker 1>inaugural season and to have twenty plus thousand people want

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<v Speaker 1>to go and support is really cool.

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<v Speaker 7>Something that you mentioned on our.

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<v Speaker 1>Call that I thought was fascinating is Dodgers co owner

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<v Speaker 1>and PWHL financier Mike Mark Walker said that there had

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<v Speaker 1>to be a CBA in place before he would commit

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<v Speaker 1>to financing a league.

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<v Speaker 7>Why was that so important?

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<v Speaker 5>So Mark and kimber Walter are our owners. They've invested

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<v Speaker 5>quite a lot of money in the single entity, and

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<v Speaker 5>I think having the CBA was important because it provides stability.

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<v Speaker 5>So we have an eight year CBA and that we

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<v Speaker 5>know as a league and as our teams, we have

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<v Speaker 5>an eight year runway to set this league up, stand

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<v Speaker 5>it up to be successful, and make it sustainable and

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<v Speaker 5>continue to grow under this model. So I think it

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<v Speaker 5>was really important just to provide that stability. There's never

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<v Speaker 5>going to be a walkout in these eight years. We're

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<v Speaker 5>all going to come united, the players and the league

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<v Speaker 5>to work together, So it's important to have that stability.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, are there any opt outs for the players because

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<v Speaker 1>eight years is a long time if it continues to

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<v Speaker 1>grow and get massive, and do they have any leverage

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<v Speaker 1>in making sure that it continues to be on a

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<v Speaker 1>benefit to both sides.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's a great question. I don't know the answer.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll do some research on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I love the stability aspect, but we also know

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<v Speaker 1>that the landscape changes so fast that making sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you are indeed a big family working together allows the

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<v Speaker 1>players to feel like they're advancing as the as the

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<v Speaker 1>league advances.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I will say that, you know, in working with

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<v Speaker 5>Jane to day to day in the hockey ops crew,

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<v Speaker 5>we talk to the union while they talk to the

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<v Speaker 5>union multiple times of days. So there's the relationship there

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<v Speaker 5>and it's close and the communication is always open.

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<v Speaker 1>Good Ohemma. Your first move as GM was hiring head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Ali Nakasse, take us through that process and how

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<v Speaker 1>you lured her away from the Aces.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, lured sounds interesting. I want to say my first

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<v Speaker 9>real hire was Banya Chennevitz. She was the GM of

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<v Speaker 9>the London Lions and is currently our VP of Bath Operations,

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<v Speaker 9>and so along with her, we had an extensive conversation

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<v Speaker 9>around coaches. We talked to too many coaches, but the

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<v Speaker 9>idea was to leave no stone unturned. International College, NBA

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<v Speaker 9>G League w n b A. We wanted to make

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<v Speaker 9>sure that we found the right candidate for us to

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<v Speaker 9>be the inaugural head coach for an expansion is really tough.

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<v Speaker 9>There's gonna be a lot of pressure externally and so

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<v Speaker 9>who is going to come in and bring a sense

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<v Speaker 9>of calm, great competitiveness and also coach with their heart.

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<v Speaker 9>I think for a long time athletes have been seeking

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<v Speaker 9>the development, but they're also seeking, uh, the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 9>be better people, and so why not pick a leader

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<v Speaker 9>who can encompass all of that?

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<v Speaker 3>And so I'm.

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<v Speaker 9>Lucky that I was able to steal what's another adjective, higher? Higher,

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<v Speaker 9>Let's know that that's a verb. Yeah, higher, Natalie.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if y'all are keeping track of how

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<v Speaker 1>many coaches in the w n b A have parted ways,

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<v Speaker 1>but Natalie is now the seventh longest tenured coach the

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<v Speaker 1>w NBA hasn't coached.

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<v Speaker 7>A game, and we don't there yet. While we're on.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of your early moves, you're really involved in the

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<v Speaker 1>Valkyrie's commitment to facilities, multimillion dollar facilities. Why is it

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<v Speaker 1>so important to have your own space and why was

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<v Speaker 1>that one of the first priorities, especially when we know

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<v Speaker 1>that the Warriors facilities are brand new and awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was done pre me.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that I always want to give credit where

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<v Speaker 9>credits due our ownership group, mister Joe, as I fondly

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<v Speaker 9>call him Lacub thought about this long and hard. So

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<v Speaker 9>the investment of just getting an expansion team wasn't enough

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<v Speaker 9>building a facility at the Chase Center. So we have

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<v Speaker 9>our own exclusive locker room. The building's five years old,

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<v Speaker 9>and it didn't it wasn't built with the idea of

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<v Speaker 9>the Valkyries. And when they purchased the Valkyries, they said,

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<v Speaker 9>well they need their own locker room. So other duties

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<v Speaker 9>is a sign and I'm construction manager as well. And

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<v Speaker 9>then the Oakland facility I think is a true testament

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<v Speaker 9>to us being a team of the Bay, right, Like

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<v Speaker 9>we're not just the San Francisco team, We're not just

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<v Speaker 9>the Oakland team.

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<v Speaker 3>We are the team of the entire Bay. And so

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<v Speaker 3>to hone our craft in Oakland and then.

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<v Speaker 9>Be able to showcase it in San Francisco, I think

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<v Speaker 9>it's an amazing Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then just throw NAPA in there if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to just figure out something to do there, I do

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<v Speaker 1>almost every year. Raven, you arrived in Casey after three

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<v Speaker 1>years with the Milwaukee Bucks. Before that, you worked in

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<v Speaker 1>the NHL, MLB, NFL, every major men's sports league pretty much.

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<v Speaker 10>How do you take.

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<v Speaker 1>Helpful lessons from what you saw while keeping an open

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<v Speaker 1>mind and being curious and creative about how women's sports

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<v Speaker 1>can and should be different.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'll be clear, the job is the same, right,

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<v Speaker 8>put butts in seats, bring brands along for strategic partnerships,

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<v Speaker 8>and again make sure people want to come back match

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<v Speaker 8>over match.

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<v Speaker 3>For your games. But I think that's where it ends.

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<v Speaker 8>The beauty of being in men's sports is it's an establishment,

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<v Speaker 8>which means there's policies and processes and things are kind

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<v Speaker 8>of built money that are built for you to succeed.

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<v Speaker 8>And there's a comfort in that, and there's a way

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<v Speaker 8>that you can look at what your impact can be

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<v Speaker 8>in that space. And that's honestly why I'm here at

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<v Speaker 8>the current versus continuing down the past towards hopefully what

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<v Speaker 8>would have been a presidency in the core for major

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<v Speaker 8>men's sports. When you look at the impact that you

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<v Speaker 8>can make in a major men's sports, you're going to

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<v Speaker 8>move the needle slightly. You're going to improve evaluation for

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<v Speaker 8>someone that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Likely not you, and that.

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<v Speaker 8>More bees in that valuation, which is exciting. Right, Leadership

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<v Speaker 8>in that vein is exactly what I was looking for

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<v Speaker 8>when I started my career in sports. But when you

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<v Speaker 8>talk about the difference, what I looked at when I

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<v Speaker 8>saw the opportunity here with the Kansas City Current after

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<v Speaker 8>talking to our owners Angie and Chris Long, it took

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<v Speaker 8>me ten minutes to hear the vision, to understand the vision,

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<v Speaker 8>but also maybe have a little bit of panic, to

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<v Speaker 8>be like, WHOA, this is really a startup. It's not

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<v Speaker 8>just the NWSL team. There's a stadium that's making history.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a blank slate.

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<v Speaker 8>And when you talk about entrepreneurial mindsets and who we

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<v Speaker 8>try to hire when we think about what the future

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<v Speaker 8>is for the NWSL and this endeavor, we want people

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<v Speaker 8>who are a little bit scared but also looking to

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<v Speaker 8>be that entrepreneur because it is a blank a blank slate.

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<v Speaker 8>So the difference is that the blank slate allows us

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<v Speaker 8>to be creative, to take chances, to make mistakes, and

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<v Speaker 8>we've made plenty, and you know, for those on my team,

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<v Speaker 8>I call those out hopefully probably too much. But we

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<v Speaker 8>make mistakes, but we can quickly pivot and we can

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<v Speaker 8>quickly learn because there is no place book and the

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<v Speaker 8>beauty is we are writing it as we go. So

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<v Speaker 8>that's the biggest difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that you called it a startup because

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<v Speaker 1>I've been preaching for like a decade about how we

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<v Speaker 1>have to treat women's sports like a startup. That desire

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<v Speaker 1>for immediate ROI that look at losses within a first

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<v Speaker 1>year as if that's somehow predictive of the product is

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<v Speaker 1>so frustrating. And so I love watching Kansas City make

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<v Speaker 1>these long term investments and view it in that way,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the way we do anything else. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of business that essentially a women's sports team is

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<v Speaker 1>in this in this market. Okay, Amy, you've done consulting, marketing,

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<v Speaker 1>business plans, bizdev for everything from MLS to rugby to

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. What are some of the biggest mistakes that

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen teams make and how has that experience formed

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<v Speaker 1>your decision making around this brand new thing in the PWHL.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's less about mistakes and more about people

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<v Speaker 5>just doing the status quo and not being bold when

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<v Speaker 5>the situation calls for it. It's very easy to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>this happens, you know, let's just do it that way

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<v Speaker 5>year over year over year, and especially in sports, you

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<v Speaker 5>just get into you know, and maybe you and I

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<v Speaker 5>were talking, right, You get in your groove every year

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<v Speaker 5>of what when should you start working on next season,

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<v Speaker 5>and when you should you start advertising, And it's very

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<v Speaker 5>easy to fall into that groove. And so I think

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<v Speaker 5>from the PWHL standpoint again that single entity ownership is

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<v Speaker 5>we can do whatever we want. We make our own

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<v Speaker 5>rules up. And so again I point the Jaina out

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<v Speaker 5>in the crowd. But like going into hockey this year,

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<v Speaker 5>she made some really cool changes to the rules of

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<v Speaker 5>the sport to make it more entertaining, to make it

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<v Speaker 5>more fun for the players, a little bit more physical,

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<v Speaker 5>a jail break rule. Jail breaks the best thing ever, so.

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<v Speaker 7>Calivin what and tell everyone what that is.

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<v Speaker 5>So if you score a shorthanded goal, your player that's

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<v Speaker 5>in the penalty box comes out, so it essentially ends

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<v Speaker 5>the power play. So Jaina was very creative on the

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<v Speaker 5>hockey side to make the sport I think more appealing

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<v Speaker 5>for the fans and for the players. And on the

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<v Speaker 5>business side, like how do we challenge the status quo

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<v Speaker 5>for event presentation as well, and Montreal at least for

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<v Speaker 5>our league has done a great job of that. Intermission

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<v Speaker 5>starts and the lights go down and a DJ comes

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<v Speaker 5>out and Montreal turns into a dance party for two intermissions,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's ultimately the funniest, scariest and craziest thing I've

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<v Speaker 5>ever seen in the scoring event. And so I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's not about the mistakes, but more about taking the

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<v Speaker 5>opportunity to be be bold and to maybe just be

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<v Speaker 5>different and think differently, because sports a lot of times

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<v Speaker 5>follows what you see in best practices for other industries,

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<v Speaker 5>and we have to find a way to lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when you look across the major men's sports and

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<v Speaker 1>you try to think of like true innovation, it's that

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<v Speaker 1>easy to find, no, because they are beholden to larger

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<v Speaker 1>rules and structures and also the way things have always

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<v Speaker 1>been done. Women's sports needs to take advantage of the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we can make our own rules in so

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<v Speaker 1>many different ways.

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<v Speaker 7>I always talk about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it might have a problem, but Lewis to

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<v Speaker 1>see the soccer team in England that started having prosecco

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<v Speaker 1>on tap instead of just beer, and.

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, that is what I wanted a game.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't just want to have the same old options

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<v Speaker 1>of like a pretzel and beer. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>serve you know, the mystics having their Mimosa's Brunch game package.

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<v Speaker 1>Just start thinking about what your audience might want that's

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<v Speaker 1>different than what's always been there, and it leads to

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<v Speaker 1>really cool ideas.

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<v Speaker 7>I love jail break. I'm sensing a theme, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ten er seco?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, it's like.

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<v Speaker 5>There are so many of you here.

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<v Speaker 7>I haven't even for throwing up for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Kim AU has run differently than most any other pro league.

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<v Speaker 1>The players are involved in almost every aspect of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>from uniforms to where and how money is spent, to

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<v Speaker 1>equity in the league itself, and it really is delivering

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<v Speaker 1>on so many things we say we want, from maternal

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<v Speaker 1>care to everything else and to what I was just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, innovating and doing something different than we've seen before.

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<v Speaker 1>As a former player yourself, what are some of the

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<v Speaker 1>highlights in your opinion of how AU centers its players.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, no, really interesting. So we have something called the

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<v Speaker 11>Players Executive Committee, and it consists of five players. We

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<v Speaker 11>meet every week and we seek their input about everything

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<v Speaker 11>from travel to accommodations to rules to you know, how

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<v Speaker 11>how we're going to you know, frame the league. So

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<v Speaker 11>you know, every week we talk about items. The most

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<v Speaker 11>impressive to me, and it was sort of eye opening

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<v Speaker 11>given you know, my background as a general manager was

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<v Speaker 11>that these player Executive Committee members basically recruit players from

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:19.439
<v Speaker 11>the outside to come play with us, so free agent market,

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 11>and they also did they made all of the decisions

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<v Speaker 11>with regards to the draft so huge and really really interesting,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, drawing from their own experiences as players as

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<v Speaker 11>well as coaches and and you know, it's been really

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<v Speaker 11>interesting for me to.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch when you have players and owners and executives working

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<v Speaker 1>together on decisions like uniforms, resources, facilities, the players then

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>can understand when you say, we're not capable of doing

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<v Speaker 1>that right now unless we give up ex or why

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<v Speaker 1>if you tell us this is the thing you want most,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do that. We're going to have to give up

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:56.239
<v Speaker 1>ex for why which one do you want to give up?

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of this constant feeling like someone must be trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get one over on the other person, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>giving that to you because we don't want to, versus

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<v Speaker 1>that's not in our budget right now, or that's not

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<v Speaker 1>feasible right now, having those discussions allows them to feel

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<v Speaker 1>empowered in their decision making, but also trust that you

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<v Speaker 1>want the best for them and you want them to

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<v Speaker 1>get what they want, but sometimes that's not possible.

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<v Speaker 7>Have you noticed that in those conversations.

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<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, and I think that it's very much, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>weighing the costs and the benefits, the pros and the

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<v Speaker 11>cons and taking them through that process and making them understand,

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 11>you know, all of it and what we as executives,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, we sort of take for granted and we've

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<v Speaker 11>done our entire careers, but making them understand that there

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<v Speaker 11>are choices and like you said, giving them the power

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<v Speaker 11>to those make those choices.

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<v Speaker 1>Raven, you wrote a book Congratulations More Than Representation, The

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<v Speaker 1>Cheat Codes to Own your Seat at the Table. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about being a queer, black woman executive in a male

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>dominated sports industry. And I love this quote and an

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>interview you said, sometimes there's a misconception that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to look up to get mentorship, where the truth was

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>we kind of looked across and said, how can we

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<v Speaker 1>nurture each other and fill each other's cups such that

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<v Speaker 1>we have a support system so when things get tough

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:06.239
<v Speaker 1>we can lean on each other. Can you talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about finding mentors and supporters across when there isn't leadership

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<v Speaker 1>that feels representative?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I check a lot of boxes.

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<v Speaker 5>So what that.

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<v Speaker 8>Means is when you're looking up and you're growing your

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 8>career in sports and there's no one to look to,

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 8>you tend to say, huh, you look like me. So

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 8>what are we learning in this moment? So as we

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 8>hopefully stay in this industry, as we grow together, we

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 8>can share experiences. And there was no there were no

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<v Speaker 8>black women really in the C suite none. There were

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<v Speaker 8>few women, but they also seemed unattainable. And I think

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<v Speaker 8>sometimes there's a misconception that we're always trying to pick

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 8>your brain and that you guys could probably attest to

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 8>this on LinkedIn. I get so many let me pick

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 8>your brain, and there are people that you don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>So looking inward, look in your circle, look at the

0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 8>people you work alongside, look at your friends. Some time

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.000
<v Speaker 8>I look to my friends and look at their experiences

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<v Speaker 8>in their industry. Because sports, while we are still a

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 8>very I think, is still a young industry. We're run

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<v Speaker 8>like mom and pop shops a lot of us. There

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 8>are more mature industries that we can learn from too.

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<v Speaker 8>So we have a group of friends, some of whom

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 8>are in sports. My circle is wide ranging for that reason,

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 8>because there was no one that looked like me that

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<v Speaker 8>didn't have They did not have the shared experience. I

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 8>came out when I was an employee, and that, boy,

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 8>is that scary, because you know, that's another checkbox for you.

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<v Speaker 8>And I needed a support circle that could tell me

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<v Speaker 8>who I was outside of this industry. Because the other

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 8>thing is you kind of get locked into what you

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<v Speaker 8>do for a living, especially when it's attached to something

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 8>cool like sports. Everybody wants to come to you for tickets,

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:50.360
<v Speaker 8>even though I don't know Taylor Swift, but you. You

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<v Speaker 8>would be surprised how many people cannot Sarah.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't. I can't.

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<v Speaker 7>I cannot.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not I'm not that, but all seriousness, you become

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<v Speaker 8>that thing two people. So it's also important to make

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 8>sure you keep your circle tight and make sure that

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 8>people are supporting you for the person that you are

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 8>before and after you punch in your your proverbial clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Ohama, you spent five years with the Liberty.

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<v Speaker 10>Apparently all it took was for you to leave for

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<v Speaker 10>them to win.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I helped set it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Must have been must have been the path you said,

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<v Speaker 1>Okay you for most recently the team's assistant GM. They

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<v Speaker 1>are a great example of a team that took a

0:32:31.920 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>big step forward due to investment. Clara Wusai and Joe said,

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<v Speaker 1>came in and beyond money, you can invest and not have.

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<v Speaker 7>The right people, the right culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have tips on how to handle things beyond

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<v Speaker 1>money or when that money arrives, how to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that it can help make or break a franchise pivoting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's people. Clara Wusai and Joe said.

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<v Speaker 9>They hired Jonathan Cole and he's a mentor of mine.

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<v Speaker 9>He's a peer mentor of mine, great friend, and I

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<v Speaker 9>was his first hire. And the both of us together

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<v Speaker 9>just kind of looked at each other and we're like,

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<v Speaker 9>we started in Westchester County Center, we lived in Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 9>How do we create a professional experience for athletes who

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<v Speaker 9>deserve more than what they were given at the time.

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<v Speaker 9>Jonathan had all the tough conversations with ownership and the

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<v Speaker 9>business team to say this is what our players need,

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<v Speaker 9>and then he just continued to hire good people, selfless people,

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 9>people who weren't.

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<v Speaker 3>A part of the liberty just to.

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<v Speaker 9>Check a box or to use the liberty as a

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<v Speaker 9>stopping stone to go somewhere else. It's a destination and

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<v Speaker 9>it's a dream job. And if you're ready to work,

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 9>the world is your oyster. And so just being able to.

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<v Speaker 3>Really caught a by how you treat.

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<v Speaker 9>People and the empathy that it takes to know that

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 9>it's hard and so what, let's just rock it out.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that's the cheap code really is to find driven,

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:23.240
<v Speaker 9>purpose driven people to want to excel.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it is.

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>All about culture. Someone said at the summit in May.

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Nobody leaves a job, they leave a culture. And that

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 1>is a huge thing to remember when you're putting together

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:33.840
<v Speaker 1>a team of people, no matter how much money you have.

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Amy right before you got into PWHL, there was a

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>little hiccup regarding team names and logos. There was a

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>trademark search that revealed some possible team names, some of

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>which got less than enthusiastic responses. So, your day two

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>on the job and you say, yeah, we're not going

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>with those, we're starting over. How are you so confident

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:56.919
<v Speaker 1>in making that decision and telling them we're doing this over.

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm not saying I was com confident. I called

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 5>someone you know from Alesian Park who was helping run

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 5>the business, and I said, hey, like, do we have

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 5>to go with these names? And she said, well, yeah,

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 5>the ship is sailed. Why And I said, well, do

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 5>we have logos, do we have team colors? Do we

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 5>have a story on why these names? Are we really ready?

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.760
<v Speaker 5>And she goes, ship is sailed? So I was like okay.

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 5>So I hung up the phone and I went and

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 5>called the friend of mine and who was going to

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<v Speaker 5>be my first hire, and I called her up and

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 5>I was like, I don't know what to do, like

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 5>we're not ready and had nothing to do with the

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 5>team names right, Like having a team name is a luxury,

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 5>it's not I must have. I said, I don't think

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 5>we're ready this and that that she goes, you have

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 5>got to get on the phone and called stand right now,

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 5>Like get on the phone and call stand Casting right now.

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 5>I said, all right, all right, okay, okay, I got

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 5>my marching orders. I picked up the phone and I

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 5>said to Stan, like, I listen, I don't think we

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 5>should do this and he said why and I said, well,

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 5>like usually when you announced team names, you've got the logo,

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 5>you've got the story on why you've got all these

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 5>wonderful assets to tell you a story, and we don't

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 5>have any of that, and so it's premature and I

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 5>think we should just go buy our city names like

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 5>soccer does it right, So it's good enough for them,

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 5>it's good enough for us. And to stands credit me

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 5>said yeah, you're running the league. Go And I'm like really,

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 5>and you know, because you're so used to, you know,

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 5>sort of in their traditional sports models, running up the flagpole,

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 5>running up the flagpole, run up the flagpole, and you're

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 5>out of gas by the time you get to the

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 5>last flagpole. And Stan just said go fine. I was

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 5>like really, like yeah, jud leigue, we're not doing names, okay.

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 12>And that was the.

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Conversation in the ship that sailed into Viking ship, one

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 1>of those funerals where you just light it on.

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 7>Fire and let it go. Yeah, and it was sailed.

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 7>Then we'll never see it again.

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Well the conversation ended and like, all right, well

0:36:36.960 --> 0:36:38.879
<v Speaker 5>now you have to start the process to do sixteen names.

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 5>And if they suck, it's on you. Yeah's great.

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 7>They don't talk. They're very cool, I mean to them.

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:43.399
<v Speaker 5>And the one that.

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Looks like a Taylor Swift logo is very brilliant marketing.

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>You have that first TS night and you're going to

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:51.480
<v Speaker 1>sell out the place. Also, a really big lesson to

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>be learned. I'm not naming any names pos nation, but

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 1>you can realize that things haven't been received the way

0:36:57.920 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you intended and decide you want to take that fan

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>feedback because in women's sports base things are a little

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:04.360
<v Speaker 1>different when it comes to relationship between the fan base

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:05.800
<v Speaker 1>and the leagues and teams.

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:09.320
<v Speaker 10>Plenty of time to pull that ship back to Shore.

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Keim.

0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Under your leadership, the twenty twenty three Marlins posted the

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>fourth best winning percentage in the history of the franchise,

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>earned the first full season postseason birth in twenty years.

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>You oversaw all that success and then you and the

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:27.359
<v Speaker 1>team parted ways. What did you learn from that time

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and how it ended?

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 11>Hm, Well, so we parted ways basically after all of that. Uh,

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 11>you know, the Marlins decided they want to restructure baseball

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 11>operations and bring in a president of baseball ops over

0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 11>me that I would have to report to and so

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 11>learn I would say, maybe reaffirmed or confirmed in some ways.

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 11>You a few things you know number one in terms

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:58.880
<v Speaker 11>of you know, my ability and the you know, the

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 11>the idea that a when could you know, lead a

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 11>group of guys to you know, playoff, run and get there.

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:07.960
<v Speaker 11>I think that was confirmed.

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 12>You know.

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 11>I go back to, you know, all the interviews that

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 11>it took to get there, dozens of interviews, second interviews

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 11>and all of that to continue to discuss, you know,

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 11>what my vision was, how I would build the team,

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 11>you know, how I would bring people together, et cetera,

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 11>et cetera. You get a chance to do that, and

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 11>then that was the answer to it. So but nonetheless

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 11>confirmed the idea that a woman could do it and

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 11>take a team to the playoffs.

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know.

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 11>Secondly, you know again, so all of this happened within

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 11>it like a two week spam, so where you know,

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 11>we make it to the playoffs and then two weeks later,

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 11>I'm being told this about this situation. So there was

0:38:55.080 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 11>a lot to process. But I think, you know, one

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 11>of the things that was affirmed in my mind is

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 11>the idea of you know, we just talked about it

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 11>culture and how big a piece that plays in the

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 11>success of an organization or team, you know, And I

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:12.479
<v Speaker 11>had the you know, I had the privilege to watch

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.839
<v Speaker 11>these guys every day, and you know, with intentionality what

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 11>we did to try and change the culture and what

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 11>we did to try and change the offensive mindset and

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 11>the way that we went about our business. And within

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:27.320
<v Speaker 11>a within a year, you managed to turn that around.

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 11>And so that culture piece is huge.

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:32.399
<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 11>Number three, I think, you know, I pride myself on

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:40.839
<v Speaker 11>having pretty good self awareness what I'm good at, when

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:44.320
<v Speaker 11>I'm not good at, what things I can handle, and

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 11>what things I can't. And I think, you know, in

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 11>terms of the self awareness, you know, as I thought

0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 11>through this decision, Yeah, because you're at you've gotten to

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 11>the pinnacle of your career and now you're probably at

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 11>the you know, biggest disappointment of your career. You know,

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 11>over those several days, just understanding what I was not

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 11>going to be able to handle right, right, and so

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:14.760
<v Speaker 11>then you just make your decision on that, and my gut,

0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 11>well not my gut. My initial reaction was no, f

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 11>and way, And that's what it ended up being for

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 11>you know, after several days for you Yeah, yeah, no,

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 11>thank you.

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 10>You just you could never do the parallel lines.

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 1>But I would love to live in another universe and

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 1>be able to have seen if a man did exactly

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:37.720
<v Speaker 1>what you did, whether they would decide to bring someone

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that you would have to report you because my answer

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>is the same answer as yours.

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:46.920
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, you know number four. I think you know the

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 11>realization and the affirmation that sometimes things are just out

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 11>of your control, right, and it's just it's not on me,

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 11>it's on now, right. But I think you know, it

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:01.839
<v Speaker 11>brings us to this moment where I'm part of this

0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 11>great women's sports movement, you know, and you know I

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 11>have you know, I have a lot to learn, but

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 11>I also have a lot to offer.

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:13.359
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well, we're excited you're here.

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeahs a couple of last quick ones, Amy, Can we

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 1>anticipate some creative outside the box events for the p WHL.

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:21.720
<v Speaker 7>Can we break some news here?

0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:23.840
<v Speaker 5>Well, I don't know if we're breaking news, but I

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.479
<v Speaker 5>think we're doing a little bit of what Kim talked about.

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 5>We're gonna do some barn storing this year. We're gonna

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:32.920
<v Speaker 5>have nine games across two countries outside of our main markets,

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 5>so we'll be all over the US, We'll be all

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 5>over Canada promoting the p WHL and playing games, and

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:40.919
<v Speaker 5>of course I think we're gonna work towards an outdoor game.

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.799
<v Speaker 5>I think we're gonna work forward games in Europe. Uh so,

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 5>So Jane and I have had some fun conversations and

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 5>we're dreaming up some things that are big.

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:50.520
<v Speaker 7>Any breaking records, any other news you want to break.

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. As of today, we are officially starting the expansion

0:41:54.880 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 5>process for the p w h L. Yeah, so starting

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 5>probably in the next week or Solul will be sending

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:08.359
<v Speaker 5>out RFPs to several markets. Also taking incoming as well,

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 5>but looking at the opportunity potentially feel two new teams

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:16.479
<v Speaker 5>for next season for twenty twenty five, twenty six, and yeah,

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 5>looking for the right market size, right fan base, right facilities,

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 5>right economic opportunities. So a lot of research to be

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 5>done over the next couple of months, but yeah, looking

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 5>to continue to build the league and grow the number

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 5>of teams.

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, speed round. I want you each to tell me

0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>you have a choice of one or the other. Either

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:36.439
<v Speaker 1>who you're watching in women's sports that's doing it right,

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 1>or the thing in women's sports you're most tired of

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>seeing or hearing, whether that's a certain kind of sponsor pitch,

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:44.880
<v Speaker 1>certain marketing approach, certain business decision.

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I'll go.

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 8>The thing I'm tired of seeing is that there's a

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 8>belief that women's sports is lesser than Thus the pitches

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 8>are that this product deserves less than the dollars that

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 8>we deserve and that we've earned. So if you're interested

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 8>in supporting women's sports, know that all money is not

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 8>good money, and that the case of Current, for example,

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 8>will be very picky with respect to who we partner

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 8>with because we believe we deserve the dollars that should

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 8>be given to these world class athletes.

0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:15.399
<v Speaker 7>Love that.

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Also, if you need help with that, I always preach

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>about this, but sports innovation labs, multiple fan projects will

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:23.560
<v Speaker 1>give you the hard numbers.

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 5>That you need.

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>So you're not walking into those meetings with subjective arguments.

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 1>You're walking in with hardcore data to why this is

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 1>an economic opportunity that they should take advantage of. So

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>use those because the people at the top don't give

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what about your subjective arguments. They care about

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>the bottom line, and the bottom line is there. It

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 1>is we have to sell it, right, kem.

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 11>I can answer both that yes, and then also we

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 11>are watching the PWHL because we also are a single

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 11>owner entity organization, and you know, there are some really

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 11>interesting decisions that you know, typically are made at the

0:43:57.840 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 11>team level, where you can make it the league level

0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 11>and you can create that minimum standard you know that

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 11>that you need to keep a lead going for a

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 11>number of years. So that's these are the guys that

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:10.760
<v Speaker 11>we're watching.

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 10>Love that, Oh Hamma.

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:15.720
<v Speaker 9>I would just say that athletes that stand on something,

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:20.400
<v Speaker 9>I think, uh for far too long, shut up and

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 9>whatever action it is that an athlete does, it's now

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:30.399
<v Speaker 9>taken away. Like our athletes are standing on things. They

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 9>are advocates for the community, their advocates for themselves. So

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 9>I think that that's one thing that I think that

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 9>they're doing well. It's not a specific entity, it's not

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:43.759
<v Speaker 9>a specific.

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 10>No, but we can all learn from them. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Amy.

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:51.919
<v Speaker 5>I had the opportunity to meet Clara Ussai last week

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 5>and I gave her a big hug and I thank

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:57.240
<v Speaker 5>you for finally providing the resources that the liberty deserved.

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 5>And so it is very true. You give resources, and

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 5>that's what happens, whether it's on the player side, whether

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:06.879
<v Speaker 5>it's on the business side. It allows you to make

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:08.400
<v Speaker 5>a difference. It allows you to have the staff you

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 5>need to do everything that you need to not just

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:12.840
<v Speaker 5>take care of the players, but take care of your fans,

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 5>build a true business, and so resource matters. And it

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 5>was great after so many years at the Garden of

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 5>having to cut cut to finally see the liberty flourish

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<v Speaker 5>because they were given the opportunity and the resources to

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<v Speaker 5>do so.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, agreed, love that. Thank you all so much.

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<v Speaker 1>I could talk to you for another hour, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to go another round of aplosties. Incredible women. It

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<v Speaker 1>was another fantastic espnW summit. So much wisdom, so much insight.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hopefully going to pull some more sound for you

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<v Speaker 1>guys in coming episodes, but for now we're going.

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<v Speaker 2>To take a break. Stick around, Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to all of you who sent in your favorite

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<v Speaker 2>I made a little video you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a rough day for me, but a round of

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<v Speaker 2>a pause for you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>We love that you're listening, but we want you to

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<v Speaker 1>get in the game every day too, So here's our

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<v Speaker 1>It's good advice generally, but especially right now. Take a

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<v Speaker 1>listen to what she said during a press conference during

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<v Speaker 1>the WTA finals over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a.

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<v Speaker 12>Tough time for our country and a crucial time for

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<v Speaker 12>our country right now. And all I can do is

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<v Speaker 12>encourage people, especially young people to vote and use their ois.

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<v Speaker 12>And you know, especially in my generation, I think there's

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<v Speaker 12>a lot of people who don't see their power of voting,

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<v Speaker 12>but for me, I do, and I can only hope

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<v Speaker 12>that with my little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Of message influences some people.

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<v Speaker 12>And obviously there's much bigger celebrities who are trying to

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<v Speaker 12>do the brown work too. But yeah, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 12>going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And while you're at at checkout USA Today columnist Nancy

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<v Speaker 1>Armor story on the impact that another Trump presidency would

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<v Speaker 1>have on women's sports. Here's a quick excerpt quote. The

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<v Speaker 1>last few years have given us a glimpse into what

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<v Speaker 1>could be the norm. Packed arenas and blockbuster TV ratings

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<v Speaker 1>for women's games, While investors and sponsors clamor for a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of the action, and women's sports have a regular

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<v Speaker 1>place in our.

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<v Speaker 2>Conversations and consciousness.

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<v Speaker 1>The results of Tuesday's election could erase all that dragging

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<v Speaker 1>us backward, just when women's sports are finally gaining traction.

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<v Speaker 1>The protections of Title nine, both against sexual violence and

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<v Speaker 1>for athletic opportunities, would be at risk if Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is re elected. So too reproductive rights in blue states.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the way women are viewed and treated would shift

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<v Speaker 1>dramatically if the raging misogynists returns to the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>End quote.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll link to Nancy's full column in the show notes. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>a big thank you to those of you who gave

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<v Speaker 1>us the great tips and tricks to calm anxiety as

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<v Speaker 1>we are sweating through the results of today's election. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of our faves. Claim Conahan said, listen to

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<v Speaker 1>Snoop Dogg's affirmation song. Laura Bustamante said watching clips of

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<v Speaker 1>the Liberty Season and celebrations.

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<v Speaker 2>Over and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>At Rockgertz said watching the SNL Cold Open with Kamala

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<v Speaker 1>and Maya Rudolph on a loop and at Eastin eleven

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<v Speaker 1>said that Apple News Today mentioned the San Diego Zoo

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<v Speaker 1>is doing a free live stream tomorrow of cute zoo

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<v Speaker 1>animals specifically to combat election anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>Bless you, San Diego Zoo. I will be watching the

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<v Speaker 5>A couple others you.

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