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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game of Sarah Spain on Tuesday, November fifth,

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Speaker 1: where we're reminding you one more time to make your

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Speaker 1: voice heard and vote. On today's show, we're bringing you

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Speaker 1: an incredible panel I moderated at last week's espnW Summit,

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Speaker 1: featuring some badass leaders from teams across multiple women's pro leagues,

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Speaker 1: plus college hoops storylines to watch, some NWSL loose ends,

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Speaker 1: and a final ode.

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Speaker 2: To Spooky Season. It's all coming up right after this.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, my Lil Orange slices. Here's what you need

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Speaker 2: to know today.

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Speaker 1: The college basketball season is officially underway and it got

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Speaker 1: off to a rock and start thanks to number three

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Speaker 1: USC and number twenty ole Miss, who played in Paris

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Speaker 1: at the AFLAC we Play event. USC fought off a

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Speaker 1: late comeback from ole Miss to grab the sixty eight

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Speaker 1: to sixty six win, with Juju Watkins contributing twenty seven

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Speaker 1: points and ten boards in transfer Kiki eria Fen adding

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Speaker 2: Plus thirteen rebounds.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more on the return of college hoops in

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Speaker 1: a little bit to soccer, where we wanted to tie

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Speaker 1: up a couple loose ends on the NWSL regular season

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Speaker 1: ahead of the start of the playoffs this weekend. So first,

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Speaker 1: let's talk parody, or, more accurately, the lack of parody.

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Speaker 1: The regular season ended with a forty point gap in

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Speaker 1: the table. Number one Orlando finished with sixty points, while

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Speaker 1: Jeff cassoof it's the second largest gap in NWSL history.

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Speaker 2: Blue, won just one game.

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Speaker 1: There's also a huge gap dividing the top four teams

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Speaker 1: Kansas City are way ahead of everyone else. Number four

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Speaker 1: number five North Carolina courage to put that in perspective,

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Speaker 1: last year, only thirteen points separated at the top ranked

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Speaker 2: In the whole league.

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Speaker 1: We'll see whether that gap in the table carries over

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs during this weekend's quarter final matchups. Okay,

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Speaker 1: moving on, We also got a shout out Kansas City's

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Speaker 1: Temwa Chewinga for winning the Golden Boot in her first

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Speaker 1: year in the league front of the Show, scored twenty

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Speaker 1: goals in twenty five games to become the first African

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Speaker 1: Break even with the Orlando's Barber Banda in the Golden

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Speaker 1: during the back half of the season. Banda ended up

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Speaker 1: and Portland Sophia Smith came in third with twelve. By

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Speaker 1: the way, one of my favorite things on this show

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Speaker 2: Didn't even realize that that would set a record, and

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Speaker 1: Also, here's another wild stat. So Washington's Croubathune finished the

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Speaker 1: but she played her last game at the season in August.

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Speaker 1: The Rookie of the Year candidate sustained a season ending

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Speaker 2: That's damn good.

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Speaker 1: Finally, to golf American, Nelly Korda, clinched her first LPGA

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Speaker 1: it is mathematically impossible for anyone to catch Korda, whose

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four season included six wins on the tour,

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Speaker 1: We got a great guest lined up to chat all

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Speaker 1: things college hoops later this week and get you set

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Speaker 1: for what should be an incredible season. But since we

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Speaker 1: were watching the first few games, we did want to

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Speaker 1: I know we're not supposed to do this, but the

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Speaker 1: technical that Juju Watkins got in their game just reminded

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Speaker 3: Let these bitches talk shit.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, My real actual storyline I will be watching

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Speaker 1: actually does include Juju Watkins. So I'm looking for sophomore

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Speaker 1: what happened last year as a freshman. But Hannah Hidalgo

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for sophomore slump and sophomore star. Mesh, what's

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Speaker 1: your storyline for me?

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Speaker 4: I'm so excited about the resurgence of the southern California schools, Sarah.

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Speaker 5: I want to take a.

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Speaker 4: Trip out to so Cal because to me is one

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Speaker 4: of the most dangerous teams in the field. We know

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Speaker 4: got arguably the best player they've had since Cheryl Miller

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Speaker 5: And last season was the first number.

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Speaker 4: One seed that they had in the NCAA Tournament since

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Speaker 5: So they've got a lot of good things happening.

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Speaker 4: And then UCLA Corey Close has been building them brick

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Speaker 4: enough talent between returners and transfers that they can make

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Speaker 4: an even deeper run in this year's tournament. They made

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Speaker 4: for them. And if you guys don't remember last season,

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Speaker 4: the last Pack twelve championship game ever, twot crazy nail bider.

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Speaker 2: Between those two teams.

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Speaker 4: So I can't wait to watch them matchup again.

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Speaker 1: That is a great one, such a fun rivalry. And

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Speaker 1: I know people who live in Ohio who bought season

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Speaker 1: a hall but worth it? All right, Alex, what's your storyline?

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Speaker 6: I am super curious to see what Iowa's program looks

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Speaker 6: Obviously Caitlin Clark huge part of that. But they are

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Speaker 6: the stats. I want to know, is that a record

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Speaker 6: for a team to drop that far from the previous

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Speaker 2: I have yet to.

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Speaker 6: Find the answer. If you know the answer, please hit

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Speaker 6: me up. But of course it's a new team. You

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Speaker 6: don't have Kitlin Clark. You also have Lisa Bluter, head

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Speaker 6: You also have two other seniors that graduated no longer

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Speaker 6: curious also to see how Iowa fans respond to this

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Speaker 6: they sold out season tickets for a second straight year.

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Speaker 6: That is fifteenths of people going to every game. And

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Speaker 6: that's what we want to see. That's what people always say,

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Speaker 6: right with Kaitlyn Clark, rising tide lifts all ships. We

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Speaker 6: what will that engagement look like if this team really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one too. That's a really interesting drop.

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Speaker 2: Pinterests eating good? Pinterests eating good.

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Speaker 1: We're going to have so much more on this college

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Speaker 1: to be a part of yet another incredible espnW Women

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Speaker 1: good stuff in this conversation, from the importance of building

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Speaker 1: what to leave behind, prioritizing culture, finding leadership, mentors and more,

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Speaker 1: from kim Ang learning from the unfortunate end to her

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Speaker 1: for that. After the break, we're going to travel to

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Speaker 2: Welcome back slices.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I want to introduce you to the incredible women

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Speaker 2: So here's whore.

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Speaker 1: I sat down with President of the NWSL Kansas City

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Speaker 1: current Raven Jemison, who joined the club in January after

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Speaker 1: She's currently serving as a senior advisor of the Athletes

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Speaker 1: Unlimited Softball League, which will begin play next spring. Also

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Speaker 1: and finally the PWHL Senior VP of Business ops Amy Sheer,

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Speaker 1: Raven the casey has gotten so much conversation about the facilities. Rightfully,

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Speaker 7: I know that a lot happened before your arrival with

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Speaker 1: You got there pretty recently, but are there any big

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Speaker 8: Big lessons? It is awesome to be the first. It

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Speaker 8: the last. So I'll start with the lessons that are

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Speaker 8: running a stadium. Amy and I were talking about. Stadiums

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Speaker 8: stadium openings, but there's never been one perpose. It's built

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Speaker 8: And the big thing that we learned is that operational

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Speaker 1: It's smart to learn the logistics in practice, as opposed

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Speaker 5: So I think what's different about us is both sides

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Speaker 9: Lucky that I was able to steal what's another adjective, higher? Higher,

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Speaker 10: How do you take.

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Speaker 1: Helpful lessons from what you saw while keeping an open

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Speaker 1: mind and being curious and creative about how women's sports

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Speaker 1: can and should be different.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll be clear, the job is the same, right,

446
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Speaker 8: put butts in seats, bring brands along for strategic partnerships,

447
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Speaker 8: and again make sure people want to come back match

448
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Speaker 8: over match.

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Speaker 3: For your games. But I think that's where it ends.

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Speaker 8: The beauty of being in men's sports is it's an establishment,

451
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Speaker 8: which means there's policies and processes and things are kind

452
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Speaker 8: of built money that are built for you to succeed.

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Speaker 8: And there's a comfort in that, and there's a way

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Speaker 8: that you can look at what your impact can be

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Speaker 8: in that space. And that's honestly why I'm here at

456
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Speaker 8: the current versus continuing down the past towards hopefully what

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Speaker 8: would have been a presidency in the core for major

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Speaker 8: men's sports. When you look at the impact that you

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Speaker 8: can make in a major men's sports, you're going to

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Speaker 8: move the needle slightly. You're going to improve evaluation for

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Speaker 8: someone that is.

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Speaker 2: Likely not you, and that.

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Speaker 8: More bees in that valuation, which is exciting. Right, Leadership

464
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Speaker 8: in that vein is exactly what I was looking for

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Speaker 8: when I started my career in sports. But when you

466
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Speaker 8: talk about the difference, what I looked at when I

467
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Speaker 8: saw the opportunity here with the Kansas City Current after

468
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Speaker 8: talking to our owners Angie and Chris Long, it took

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Speaker 8: me ten minutes to hear the vision, to understand the vision,

470
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Speaker 8: but also maybe have a little bit of panic, to

471
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Speaker 8: be like, WHOA, this is really a startup. It's not

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Speaker 8: just the NWSL team. There's a stadium that's making history.

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Speaker 2: But it's a blank slate.

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Speaker 8: And when you talk about entrepreneurial mindsets and who we

475
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Speaker 8: try to hire when we think about what the future

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Speaker 8: is for the NWSL and this endeavor, we want people

477
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Speaker 8: who are a little bit scared but also looking to

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Speaker 8: be that entrepreneur because it is a blank a blank slate.

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Speaker 8: So the difference is that the blank slate allows us

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Speaker 8: to be creative, to take chances, to make mistakes, and

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Speaker 8: we've made plenty, and you know, for those on my team,

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Speaker 8: I call those out hopefully probably too much. But we

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Speaker 8: make mistakes, but we can quickly pivot and we can

484
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Speaker 8: quickly learn because there is no place book and the

485
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Speaker 8: beauty is we are writing it as we go. So

486
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Speaker 8: that's the biggest difference.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that you called it a startup because

488
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Speaker 1: I've been preaching for like a decade about how we

489
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Speaker 1: have to treat women's sports like a startup. That desire

490
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Speaker 1: for immediate ROI that look at losses within a first

491
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Speaker 1: year as if that's somehow predictive of the product is

492
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Speaker 1: so frustrating. And so I love watching Kansas City make

493
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Speaker 1: these long term investments and view it in that way,

494
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Speaker 1: because that's the way we do anything else. That's the

495
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Speaker 1: kind of business that essentially a women's sports team is

496
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Speaker 1: in this in this market. Okay, Amy, you've done consulting, marketing,

497
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Speaker 1: business plans, bizdev for everything from MLS to rugby to

498
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Speaker 1: the NFL. What are some of the biggest mistakes that

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Speaker 1: you've seen teams make and how has that experience formed

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Speaker 1: your decision making around this brand new thing in the PWHL.

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Speaker 5: I think it's less about mistakes and more about people

502
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Speaker 5: just doing the status quo and not being bold when

503
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Speaker 5: the situation calls for it. It's very easy to say, oh,

504
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Speaker 5: this happens, you know, let's just do it that way

505
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Speaker 5: year over year over year, and especially in sports, you

506
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Speaker 5: just get into you know, and maybe you and I

507
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Speaker 5: were talking, right, You get in your groove every year

508
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Speaker 5: of what when should you start working on next season,

509
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Speaker 5: and when you should you start advertising, And it's very

510
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Speaker 5: easy to fall into that groove. And so I think

511
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Speaker 5: from the PWHL standpoint again that single entity ownership is

512
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Speaker 5: we can do whatever we want. We make our own

513
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Speaker 5: rules up. And so again I point the Jaina out

514
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Speaker 5: in the crowd. But like going into hockey this year,

515
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Speaker 5: she made some really cool changes to the rules of

516
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Speaker 5: the sport to make it more entertaining, to make it

517
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Speaker 5: more fun for the players, a little bit more physical,

518
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Speaker 5: a jail break rule. Jail breaks the best thing ever, so.

519
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Speaker 7: Calivin what and tell everyone what that is.

520
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Speaker 5: So if you score a shorthanded goal, your player that's

521
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Speaker 5: in the penalty box comes out, so it essentially ends

522
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Speaker 5: the power play. So Jaina was very creative on the

523
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Speaker 5: hockey side to make the sport I think more appealing

524
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Speaker 5: for the fans and for the players. And on the

525
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Speaker 5: business side, like how do we challenge the status quo

526
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Speaker 5: for event presentation as well, and Montreal at least for

527
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Speaker 5: our league has done a great job of that. Intermission

528
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Speaker 5: starts and the lights go down and a DJ comes

529
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Speaker 5: out and Montreal turns into a dance party for two intermissions,

530
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Speaker 5: and it's ultimately the funniest, scariest and craziest thing I've

531
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Speaker 5: ever seen in the scoring event. And so I think

532
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Speaker 5: it's not about the mistakes, but more about taking the

533
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Speaker 5: opportunity to be be bold and to maybe just be

534
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Speaker 5: different and think differently, because sports a lot of times

535
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Speaker 5: follows what you see in best practices for other industries,

536
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Speaker 5: and we have to find a way to lead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you look across the major men's sports and

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Speaker 1: you try to think of like true innovation, it's that

539
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Speaker 1: easy to find, no, because they are beholden to larger

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Speaker 1: rules and structures and also the way things have always

541
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Speaker 1: been done. Women's sports needs to take advantage of the

542
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Speaker 1: fact that we can make our own rules in so

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Speaker 1: many different ways.

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Speaker 7: I always talk about this.

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Speaker 1: I think it might have a problem, but Lewis to

546
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Speaker 1: see the soccer team in England that started having prosecco

547
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Speaker 1: on tap instead of just beer, and.

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Speaker 7: I was like, that is what I wanted a game.

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Speaker 1: I don't just want to have the same old options

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Speaker 1: of like a pretzel and beer. I want you to

551
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Speaker 1: serve you know, the mystics having their Mimosa's Brunch game package.

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Speaker 1: Just start thinking about what your audience might want that's

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Speaker 1: different than what's always been there, and it leads to

554
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Speaker 1: really cool ideas.

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Speaker 7: I love jail break. I'm sensing a theme, Sarah.

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Speaker 2: Are you ten er seco?

557
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Speaker 7: You know, it's like.

558
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Speaker 5: There are so many of you here.

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Speaker 7: I haven't even for throwing up for me.

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Speaker 1: Kim AU has run differently than most any other pro league.

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Speaker 1: The players are involved in almost every aspect of the game,

562
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Speaker 1: from uniforms to where and how money is spent, to

563
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Speaker 1: equity in the league itself, and it really is delivering

564
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Speaker 1: on so many things we say we want, from maternal

565
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Speaker 1: care to everything else and to what I was just

566
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Speaker 1: talking about, innovating and doing something different than we've seen before.

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Speaker 1: As a former player yourself, what are some of the

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Speaker 1: highlights in your opinion of how AU centers its players.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, really interesting. So we have something called the

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Speaker 11: Players Executive Committee, and it consists of five players. We

571
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Speaker 11: meet every week and we seek their input about everything

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Speaker 11: from travel to accommodations to rules to you know, how

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Speaker 11: how we're going to you know, frame the league. So

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Speaker 11: you know, every week we talk about items. The most

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Speaker 11: impressive to me, and it was sort of eye opening

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Speaker 11: given you know, my background as a general manager was

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Speaker 11: that these player Executive Committee members basically recruit players from

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Speaker 11: the outside to come play with us, so free agent market,

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Speaker 11: and they also did they made all of the decisions

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Speaker 11: with regards to the draft so huge and really really interesting,

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Speaker 11: you know, drawing from their own experiences as players as

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Speaker 11: well as coaches and and you know, it's been really

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Speaker 11: interesting for me to.

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Speaker 1: Watch when you have players and owners and executives working

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Speaker 1: together on decisions like uniforms, resources, facilities, the players then

586
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Speaker 1: can understand when you say, we're not capable of doing

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Speaker 1: that right now unless we give up ex or why

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Speaker 1: if you tell us this is the thing you want most,

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Speaker 1: we'll do that. We're going to have to give up

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Speaker 1: ex for why which one do you want to give up?

591
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Speaker 1: Instead of this constant feeling like someone must be trying

592
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Speaker 1: to get one over on the other person, we're not

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Speaker 1: giving that to you because we don't want to, versus

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Speaker 1: that's not in our budget right now, or that's not

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Speaker 1: feasible right now, having those discussions allows them to feel

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Speaker 1: empowered in their decision making, but also trust that you

597
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Speaker 1: want the best for them and you want them to

598
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Speaker 1: get what they want, but sometimes that's not possible.

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Speaker 7: Have you noticed that in those conversations.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, and I think that it's very much, you know,

601
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Speaker 11: weighing the costs and the benefits, the pros and the

602
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Speaker 11: cons and taking them through that process and making them understand,

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Speaker 11: you know, all of it and what we as executives,

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Speaker 11: you know, we sort of take for granted and we've

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Speaker 11: done our entire careers, but making them understand that there

606
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Speaker 11: are choices and like you said, giving them the power

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Speaker 11: to those make those choices.

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Speaker 1: Raven, you wrote a book Congratulations More Than Representation, The

609
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Speaker 1: Cheat Codes to Own your Seat at the Table. It's

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Speaker 1: about being a queer, black woman executive in a male

611
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Speaker 1: dominated sports industry. And I love this quote and an

612
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Speaker 1: interview you said, sometimes there's a misconception that you have

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Speaker 1: to look up to get mentorship, where the truth was

614
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Speaker 1: we kind of looked across and said, how can we

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Speaker 1: nurture each other and fill each other's cups such that

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Speaker 1: we have a support system so when things get tough

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Speaker 1: we can lean on each other. Can you talk more

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Speaker 1: about finding mentors and supporters across when there isn't leadership

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Speaker 1: that feels representative?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I check a lot of boxes.

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Speaker 5: So what that.

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Speaker 8: Means is when you're looking up and you're growing your

623
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Speaker 8: career in sports and there's no one to look to,

624
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Speaker 8: you tend to say, huh, you look like me. So

625
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Speaker 8: what are we learning in this moment? So as we

626
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Speaker 8: hopefully stay in this industry, as we grow together, we

627
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Speaker 8: can share experiences. And there was no there were no

628
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Speaker 8: black women really in the C suite none. There were

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Speaker 8: few women, but they also seemed unattainable. And I think

630
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Speaker 8: sometimes there's a misconception that we're always trying to pick

631
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Speaker 8: your brain and that you guys could probably attest to

632
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Speaker 8: this on LinkedIn. I get so many let me pick

633
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Speaker 8: your brain, and there are people that you don't know.

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Speaker 8: So looking inward, look in your circle, look at the

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Speaker 8: people you work alongside, look at your friends. Some time

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Speaker 8: I look to my friends and look at their experiences

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Speaker 8: in their industry. Because sports, while we are still a

638
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 8: very I think, is still a young industry. We're run

639
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 8: like mom and pop shops a lot of us. There

640
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 8: are more mature industries that we can learn from too.

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00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 8: So we have a group of friends, some of whom

642
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 8: are in sports. My circle is wide ranging for that reason,

643
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 8: because there was no one that looked like me that

644
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Speaker 8: didn't have They did not have the shared experience. I

645
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 8: came out when I was an employee, and that, boy,

646
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 8: is that scary, because you know, that's another checkbox for you.

647
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Speaker 8: And I needed a support circle that could tell me

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Speaker 8: who I was outside of this industry. Because the other

649
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 8: thing is you kind of get locked into what you

650
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Speaker 8: do for a living, especially when it's attached to something

651
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 8: cool like sports. Everybody wants to come to you for tickets,

652
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 8: even though I don't know Taylor Swift, but you. You

653
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 8: would be surprised how many people cannot Sarah.

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't.

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Speaker 7: I cannot.

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Speaker 8: I'm not I'm not that, but all seriousness, you become

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Speaker 8: that thing two people. So it's also important to make

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Speaker 8: sure you keep your circle tight and make sure that

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Speaker 8: people are supporting you for the person that you are

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Speaker 8: before and after you punch in your your proverbial clock.

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Speaker 1: Ohama, you spent five years with the Liberty.

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Speaker 10: Apparently all it took was for you to leave for

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Speaker 10: them to win.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I helped set it up.

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Speaker 2: I'll do that.

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Speaker 1: Must have been must have been the path you said,

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Speaker 1: Okay you for most recently the team's assistant GM. They

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Speaker 1: are a great example of a team that took a

670
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Speaker 1: big step forward due to investment. Clara Wusai and Joe said,

671
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Speaker 1: came in and beyond money, you can invest and not have.

672
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Speaker 7: The right people, the right culture.

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Speaker 1: Do you have tips on how to handle things beyond

674
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Speaker 1: money or when that money arrives, how to make sure

675
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Speaker 1: that it can help make or break a franchise pivoting.

676
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's people. Clara Wusai and Joe said.

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Speaker 9: They hired Jonathan Cole and he's a mentor of mine.

678
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Speaker 9: He's a peer mentor of mine, great friend, and I

679
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Speaker 9: was his first hire. And the both of us together

680
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Speaker 9: just kind of looked at each other and we're like,

681
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Speaker 9: we started in Westchester County Center, we lived in Brooklyn.

682
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Speaker 9: How do we create a professional experience for athletes who

683
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Speaker 9: deserve more than what they were given at the time.

684
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Speaker 9: Jonathan had all the tough conversations with ownership and the

685
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Speaker 9: business team to say this is what our players need,

686
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Speaker 9: and then he just continued to hire good people, selfless people,

687
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Speaker 9: people who weren't.

688
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Speaker 3: A part of the liberty just to.

689
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Speaker 9: Check a box or to use the liberty as a

690
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Speaker 9: stopping stone to go somewhere else. It's a destination and

691
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Speaker 9: it's a dream job. And if you're ready to work,

692
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 9: the world is your oyster. And so just being able to.

693
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Speaker 3: Really caught a by how you treat.

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Speaker 9: People and the empathy that it takes to know that

695
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Speaker 9: it's hard and so what, let's just rock it out.

696
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Speaker 9: I think that's the cheap code really is to find driven,

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Speaker 9: purpose driven people to want to excel.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it is.

699
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Speaker 1: All about culture. Someone said at the summit in May.

700
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Speaker 1: Nobody leaves a job, they leave a culture. And that

701
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Speaker 1: is a huge thing to remember when you're putting together

702
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Speaker 1: a team of people, no matter how much money you have.

703
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Speaker 1: Amy right before you got into PWHL, there was a

704
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Speaker 1: little hiccup regarding team names and logos. There was a

705
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Speaker 1: trademark search that revealed some possible team names, some of

706
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Speaker 1: which got less than enthusiastic responses. So, your day two

707
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Speaker 1: on the job and you say, yeah, we're not going

708
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Speaker 1: with those, we're starting over. How are you so confident

709
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Speaker 1: in making that decision and telling them we're doing this over.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm not saying I was com confident. I called

711
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Speaker 5: someone you know from Alesian Park who was helping run

712
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Speaker 5: the business, and I said, hey, like, do we have

713
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 5: to go with these names? And she said, well, yeah,

714
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 5: the ship is sailed. Why And I said, well, do

715
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 5: we have logos, do we have team colors? Do we

716
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Speaker 5: have a story on why these names? Are we really ready?

717
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 5: And she goes, ship is sailed? So I was like okay.

718
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Speaker 5: So I hung up the phone and I went and

719
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Speaker 5: called the friend of mine and who was going to

720
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Speaker 5: be my first hire, and I called her up and

721
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Speaker 5: I was like, I don't know what to do, like

722
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Speaker 5: we're not ready and had nothing to do with the

723
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Speaker 5: team names right, Like having a team name is a luxury,

724
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Speaker 5: it's not I must have. I said, I don't think

725
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Speaker 5: we're ready this and that that she goes, you have

726
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Speaker 5: got to get on the phone and called stand right now,

727
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 5: Like get on the phone and call stand Casting right now.

728
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Speaker 5: I said, all right, all right, okay, okay, I got

729
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Speaker 5: my marching orders. I picked up the phone and I

730
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 5: said to Stan, like, I listen, I don't think we

731
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Speaker 5: should do this and he said why and I said, well,

732
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Speaker 5: like usually when you announced team names, you've got the logo,

733
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Speaker 5: you've got the story on why you've got all these

734
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Speaker 5: wonderful assets to tell you a story, and we don't

735
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Speaker 5: have any of that, and so it's premature and I

736
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Speaker 5: think we should just go buy our city names like

737
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Speaker 5: soccer does it right, So it's good enough for them,

738
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Speaker 5: it's good enough for us. And to stands credit me

739
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 5: said yeah, you're running the league. Go And I'm like really,

740
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Speaker 5: and you know, because you're so used to, you know,

741
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Speaker 5: sort of in their traditional sports models, running up the flagpole,

742
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Speaker 5: running up the flagpole, run up the flagpole, and you're

743
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Speaker 5: out of gas by the time you get to the

744
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Speaker 5: last flagpole. And Stan just said go fine. I was

745
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 5: like really, like yeah, jud leigue, we're not doing names, okay.

746
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Speaker 12: And that was the.

747
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Speaker 1: Conversation in the ship that sailed into Viking ship, one

748
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Speaker 1: of those funerals where you just light it on.

749
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Speaker 7: Fire and let it go. Yeah, and it was sailed.

750
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Speaker 7: Then we'll never see it again.

751
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Well the conversation ended and like, all right, well

752
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 5: now you have to start the process to do sixteen names.

753
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Speaker 5: And if they suck, it's on you. Yeah's great.

754
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Speaker 7: They don't talk. They're very cool, I mean to them.

755
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Speaker 5: And the one that.

756
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Speaker 1: Looks like a Taylor Swift logo is very brilliant marketing.

757
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: You have that first TS night and you're going to

758
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: sell out the place. Also, a really big lesson to

759
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Speaker 1: be learned. I'm not naming any names pos nation, but

760
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Speaker 1: you can realize that things haven't been received the way

761
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Speaker 1: you intended and decide you want to take that fan

762
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Speaker 1: feedback because in women's sports base things are a little

763
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Speaker 1: different when it comes to relationship between the fan base

764
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Speaker 1: and the leagues and teams.

765
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Speaker 10: Plenty of time to pull that ship back to Shore.

766
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Speaker 2: Keim.

767
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Speaker 1: Under your leadership, the twenty twenty three Marlins posted the

768
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Speaker 1: fourth best winning percentage in the history of the franchise,

769
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Speaker 1: earned the first full season postseason birth in twenty years.

770
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Speaker 1: You oversaw all that success and then you and the

771
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Speaker 1: team parted ways. What did you learn from that time

772
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Speaker 1: and how it ended?

773
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Speaker 11: Hm, Well, so we parted ways basically after all of that. Uh,

774
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Speaker 11: you know, the Marlins decided they want to restructure baseball

775
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Speaker 11: operations and bring in a president of baseball ops over

776
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Speaker 11: me that I would have to report to and so

777
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 11: learn I would say, maybe reaffirmed or confirmed in some ways.

778
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 11: You a few things you know number one in terms

779
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 11: of you know, my ability and the you know, the

780
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Speaker 11: the idea that a when could you know, lead a

781
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Speaker 11: group of guys to you know, playoff, run and get there.

782
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Speaker 11: I think that was confirmed.

783
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Speaker 12: You know.

784
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Speaker 11: I go back to, you know, all the interviews that

785
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Speaker 11: it took to get there, dozens of interviews, second interviews

786
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 11: and all of that to continue to discuss, you know,

787
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Speaker 11: what my vision was, how I would build the team,

788
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Speaker 11: you know, how I would bring people together, et cetera,

789
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Speaker 11: et cetera. You get a chance to do that, and

790
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 11: then that was the answer to it. So but nonetheless

791
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Speaker 11: confirmed the idea that a woman could do it and

792
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Speaker 11: take a team to the playoffs.

793
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Speaker 2: I think, you know.

794
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Speaker 11: Secondly, you know again, so all of this happened within

795
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 11: it like a two week spam, so where you know,

796
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Speaker 11: we make it to the playoffs and then two weeks later,

797
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Speaker 11: I'm being told this about this situation. So there was

798
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Speaker 11: a lot to process. But I think, you know, one

799
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Speaker 11: of the things that was affirmed in my mind is

800
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Speaker 11: the idea of you know, we just talked about it

801
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Speaker 11: culture and how big a piece that plays in the

802
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 11: success of an organization or team, you know, And I

803
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,479
Speaker 11: had the you know, I had the privilege to watch

804
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 11: these guys every day, and you know, with intentionality what

805
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 11: we did to try and change the culture and what

806
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 11: we did to try and change the offensive mindset and

807
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 11: the way that we went about our business. And within

808
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 11: a within a year, you managed to turn that around.

809
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 11: And so that culture piece is huge.

810
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 12: Yeah.

811
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 11: Number three, I think, you know, I pride myself on

812
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 11: having pretty good self awareness what I'm good at, when

813
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 11: I'm not good at, what things I can handle, and

814
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 11: what things I can't. And I think, you know, in

815
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 11: terms of the self awareness, you know, as I thought

816
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 11: through this decision, Yeah, because you're at you've gotten to

817
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 11: the pinnacle of your career and now you're probably at

818
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 11: the you know, biggest disappointment of your career. You know,

819
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 11: over those several days, just understanding what I was not

820
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 11: going to be able to handle right, right, and so

821
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Speaker 11: then you just make your decision on that, and my gut,

822
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Speaker 11: well not my gut. My initial reaction was no, f

823
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Speaker 11: and way, And that's what it ended up being for

824
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Speaker 11: you know, after several days for you Yeah, yeah, no,

825
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 11: thank you.

826
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Speaker 10: You just you could never do the parallel lines.

827
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Speaker 1: But I would love to live in another universe and

828
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Speaker 1: be able to have seen if a man did exactly

829
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Speaker 1: what you did, whether they would decide to bring someone

830
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Speaker 1: that you would have to report you because my answer

831
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Speaker 1: is the same answer as yours.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know number four. I think you know the

833
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 11: realization and the affirmation that sometimes things are just out

834
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 11: of your control, right, and it's just it's not on me,

835
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 11: it's on now, right. But I think you know, it

836
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 11: brings us to this moment where I'm part of this

837
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 11: great women's sports movement, you know, and you know I

838
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 11: have you know, I have a lot to learn, but

839
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 11: I also have a lot to offer.

840
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, we're excited you're here.

841
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeahs a couple of last quick ones, Amy, Can we

842
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: anticipate some creative outside the box events for the p WHL.

843
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 7: Can we break some news here?

844
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if we're breaking news, but I

845
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 5: think we're doing a little bit of what Kim talked about.

846
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 5: We're gonna do some barn storing this year. We're gonna

847
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 5: have nine games across two countries outside of our main markets,

848
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 5: so we'll be all over the US, We'll be all

849
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 5: over Canada promoting the p WHL and playing games, and

850
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 5: of course I think we're gonna work towards an outdoor game.

851
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 5: I think we're gonna work forward games in Europe. Uh so,

852
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 5: So Jane and I have had some fun conversations and

853
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 5: we're dreaming up some things that are big.

854
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 7: Any breaking records, any other news you want to break.

855
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 5: Yeah. As of today, we are officially starting the expansion

856
00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 5: process for the p w h L. Yeah, so starting

857
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 5: probably in the next week or Solul will be sending

858
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 5: out RFPs to several markets. Also taking incoming as well,

859
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 5: but looking at the opportunity potentially feel two new teams

860
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,479
Speaker 5: for next season for twenty twenty five, twenty six, and yeah,

861
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 5: looking for the right market size, right fan base, right facilities,

862
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 5: right economic opportunities. So a lot of research to be

863
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 5: done over the next couple of months, but yeah, looking

864
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 5: to continue to build the league and grow the number

865
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 5: of teams.

866
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Speaker 1: Okay, speed round. I want you each to tell me

867
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: you have a choice of one or the other. Either

868
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: who you're watching in women's sports that's doing it right,

869
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: or the thing in women's sports you're most tired of

870
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: seeing or hearing, whether that's a certain kind of sponsor pitch,

871
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: certain marketing approach, certain business decision.

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00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: I'll go.

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Speaker 8: The thing I'm tired of seeing is that there's a

874
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Speaker 8: belief that women's sports is lesser than Thus the pitches

875
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 8: are that this product deserves less than the dollars that

876
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 8: we deserve and that we've earned. So if you're interested

877
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 8: in supporting women's sports, know that all money is not

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Speaker 8: good money, and that the case of Current, for example,

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Speaker 8: will be very picky with respect to who we partner

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Speaker 8: with because we believe we deserve the dollars that should

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Speaker 8: be given to these world class athletes.

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Speaker 7: Love that.

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Speaker 1: Also, if you need help with that, I always preach

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Speaker 1: about this, but sports innovation labs, multiple fan projects will

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Speaker 1: give you the hard numbers.

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Speaker 5: That you need.

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Speaker 1: So you're not walking into those meetings with subjective arguments.

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Speaker 1: You're walking in with hardcore data to why this is

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Speaker 1: an economic opportunity that they should take advantage of. So

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Speaker 1: use those because the people at the top don't give

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Speaker 1: you know what about your subjective arguments. They care about

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Speaker 1: the bottom line, and the bottom line is there. It

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Speaker 1: is we have to sell it, right, kem.

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Speaker 11: I can answer both that yes, and then also we

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Speaker 11: interesting decisions that you know, typically are made at the

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Speaker 11: team level, where you can make it the league level

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Speaker 11: and you can create that minimum standard you know that

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Speaker 11: that you need to keep a lead going for a

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Speaker 11: number of years. So that's these are the guys that

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Speaker 11: we're watching.

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Speaker 10: Love that, Oh Hamma.

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Speaker 9: I would just say that athletes that stand on something,

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Speaker 9: I think, uh for far too long, shut up and

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Speaker 9: whatever action it is that an athlete does, it's now

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Speaker 9: taken away. Like our athletes are standing on things. They

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Speaker 9: are advocates for the community, their advocates for themselves. So

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Speaker 9: I think that that's one thing that I think that

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Speaker 9: they're doing well. It's not a specific entity, it's not

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Speaker 9: a specific.

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Speaker 10: No, but we can all learn from them. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Amy.

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Speaker 5: I had the opportunity to meet Clara Ussai last week

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Speaker 5: and I gave her a big hug and I thank

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Speaker 5: you for finally providing the resources that the liberty deserved.

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Speaker 5: And so it is very true. You give resources, and

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Speaker 5: that's what happens, whether it's on the player side, whether

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Speaker 5: it's on the business side. It allows you to make

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Speaker 5: a difference. It allows you to have the staff you

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Speaker 5: need to do everything that you need to not just

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Speaker 5: build a true business, and so resource matters. And it

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Speaker 5: because they were given the opportunity and the resources to

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Speaker 7: Yeah, agreed, love that. Thank you all so much.

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Speaker 1: I could talk to you for another hour, but it's

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Speaker 2: To take a break. Stick around, Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It's a rough day for me, but a round of

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Speaker 2: a pause for you guys.

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Speaker 1: We love that you're listening, but we want you to

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Speaker 2: I think it's a.

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Speaker 12: Tough time for our country and a crucial time for

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Speaker 12: our country right now. And all I can do is

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Speaker 12: And you know, especially in my generation, I think there's

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Speaker 12: And obviously there's much bigger celebrities who are trying to

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Speaker 12: do the brown work too. But yeah, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: And while you're at at checkout USA Today columnist Nancy

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Speaker 1: Armor story on the impact that another Trump presidency would

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Speaker 1: have on women's sports. Here's a quick excerpt quote. The

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Speaker 1: last few years have given us a glimpse into what

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Speaker 1: place in our.

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Speaker 2: Conversations and consciousness.

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Speaker 1: The results of Tuesday's election could erase all that dragging

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Speaker 1: us backward, just when women's sports are finally gaining traction.

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Speaker 1: The protections of Title nine, both against sexual violence and

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Speaker 1: for athletic opportunities, would be at risk if Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: is re elected. So too reproductive rights in blue states.

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Speaker 1: Even the way women are viewed and treated would shift

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Speaker 2: End quote.

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Speaker 1: We'll link to Nancy's full column in the show notes. Also,

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Speaker 1: a big thank you to those of you who gave

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