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Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and

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Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the

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Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history.

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Speaker 2: Joined by the newarch member of the Patriots Hall Fame,

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Speaker 2: Mike Gravel.

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Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments

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Speaker 3: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian

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Speaker 2: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number

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Speaker 2: one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison.

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Speaker 3: Good to be home, Good to see you guys.

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Speaker 4: Morning.

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Speaker 3: How y'all doing great?

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Speaker 1: Said after the game a couple weeks beforehand, he said,

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Speaker 1: we just cut out on them. What is that?

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Speaker 3: uh we executed. So we talked about last week being

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Speaker 3: so that's where what we talked about. And we also

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Speaker 3: And then showing the action on the field.

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Speaker 2: K pretty James, are you seeing just another baby bubble

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm seeing a player that's tough, smart, dependable, a

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Speaker 1: Him in that third down the way he's sharing doth

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So what we tried, what we asked him do

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Speaker 3: all right, And that's what we try to do, and

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Speaker 3: And then for for us, he uh, he's steady improves

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Speaker 3: You look at his notes, he studied and studied his

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Speaker 3: So proud of the way he prepares every week. You know,

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Speaker 2: Run defense, uh the second half against the Jesse's I

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