1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Hello, my loves. I'm so hyped on today. My guest 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: is basically Bachelor Nation Royalty. 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: She's the bachelorette who kept it. 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: Real, the wine queen behind Spade and Sparrow, and the 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: voice of Off the Vine. Caitlin Bristow is here. Finally, 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: we've been trying to set this up for so long. 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 3: No, I've bought you on my podcast too for so long. 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, finally we're making this work. 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: Are you in New York? 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 3: No, I'm well, I'm off and in New York, but 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 3: I'm in Nashville. That's where I live. 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: Do you like it out there Nashville? Yeah? 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: I love it. I just I feel like it's kind 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: of like my Like I've made my home just my 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: little sanctuary where I don't really do much in Nashville. 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: If I travel to like LA and New York, I'm like, 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 3: you know, doing stuff. But when I'm home, I'm like 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 3: such a homebody. Yeah, and I just don't leave my house. 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: I just stay with my dog. So yeah, I love 20 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: it for that reason. 21 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: I'm totally with you. 22 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I finally am rooted in La where 23 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: I have my house that I rarely leave. I've made 24 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: it my sanctuary, So I totally get that, but I 25 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: would I love Nashville. So my hope is that when 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: I can do your podcast, I get to come to you. 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 3: Oh please do. I would love to have you. And 28 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: it's like, I do feel like Nashville's kind of middle 29 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: ground and it's very I mean, it's growing like crazy, 30 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 3: but I feel like it still feels like a small 31 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: town in a big city and everyone's so friendly. And 32 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 3: I've been here for ten years, so I must like it. 33 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 2: That's a long time. 34 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 3: I know, I know it doesn't feel like I've been here. 35 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: That long, but yeah, what's the dating scene like in Nashville? 36 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: Is it getting hard? 37 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 3: Not good? 38 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 39 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 3: Apparently, like the ratio is like there's so many good 40 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: looking women and like awesome women in this I don't 41 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: know what it is about Nashville, but there's just like 42 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: so many great girls here. And then I just feel 43 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: like all the guys are so young, and everybody has 44 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: that broccoli haircut and like the backwards hat, you know 45 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: what I'm talking about, or they like have the side 46 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: shaved and it's like on top, like really like looking 47 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: here mop on top of their head. I don't know, 48 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: but I feel like everyone's so young. 49 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: Oh well, I feel like a lot of people left 50 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: cities like Los Angeles and New York and they started 51 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: going to like Nashville, they started going to Austin, and 52 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: I feel like it kind of like it changed things. 53 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: And like you said, in any city. 54 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: I feel like there's more incredible women who are like 55 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: just bringing all of it. They've got like the sexy happening, 56 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: They've got their shit together, and then these dudes where 57 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is this is what's out there. 58 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: It's it's actually bizarre because I was pretty much in 59 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: a back to back relationship and two different relationships the 60 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: whole time I've been to Nashville. And then I was like, 61 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, do I have to date in Nashville? 62 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: And then I was like, no, I'm not doing it. 63 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: I don't think I Actually I went on one double 64 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: date in Nashville, but it was like at a honky 65 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: Tonk on Broadway, which is my personal hell. And it 66 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: was like, fine, it was fun. 67 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: You got like some free drinks and a free meal whatever. 68 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I got some like fried pickles and a beer. 69 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: It was great. 70 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: Hey, that sounds fucking awesome. It was my idea of 71 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: a five star night. 72 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: So that are you You're not opposed to dating like 73 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: long distance. 74 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: I'm really not, because I've so. When I was oh gosh, 75 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: I can't remember how old I was, I dated a 76 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 3: guy who was a hockey player, and he was always 77 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: like somewhere else, and then when he go to training camp, 78 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: it was in Germany at one point, and then I 79 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: was like, I've I've done it. And I actually love 80 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: long distance because I like missing somebody. I'm hyper independent. 81 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: My therapist says, it's a coping mechanism that I have 82 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 3: that I'm like hyperindependent. But I like being alone so much. 83 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: It's it's like it it recharges my batteries to be alone. 84 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: And I feel like I'm a better partner overall if 85 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: I have space. And I like going like say I 86 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: was dating someone in New York, Okay, to go to 87 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: New York and just see them for a week and 88 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: then come home for a couple of weeks, you go back. 89 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: I actually love it. 90 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: That resonates with me. I feel the same way I think. 91 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: I think long distance sounds like a dream, and you 92 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: I like the idea of missing someone and having them 93 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: miss me, and I like the idea of being able 94 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: to like go and kind of pull my shit together, 95 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: like when I'm at home, Like, I love just covering 96 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: myself in oil. You could fry an egg on my forehead. 97 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: It's just I'm looking at my shiny face right now. 98 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: But yes, well, by the way you and me both, 99 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: I'm always shiny though, because I'm like, I just want 100 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: to cake myself in oil and then like if I 101 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: if I have a man who's elsewhere, like that's my 102 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: time to like put on my push up bra and 103 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: look all kinds of sexy. 104 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: Totally. I love being gross, Like, I just love being gross. 105 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: It's one of my favorite things. I just like to 106 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: rot in my bed sometimes. I like to not worry 107 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: about what I look like smell, like, just like let 108 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: myself and then when I need to turn it on, 109 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: I turn it on. 110 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: I love that exact same thing. So you're I feel 111 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: like you're in good company. I've been watching Sex in 112 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: the City for the first time and everyone's like, oh, 113 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: you're watching and just like that, I'm like, no, I've 114 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: never seen Sex in the City like oge. 115 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: I've only seen. 116 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: The movie never either. 117 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Caitlyn, you have to do it. 118 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 3: Well, I keep trying. So I'm the same way. I 119 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: had never watched Sex in the City and everyone's like, 120 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: you would love it, and then I tried to get 121 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: into it in season one. I was like, what is this? 122 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 3: And I feel like it's I can't get into I 123 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: can't get into it. 124 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: Okay, maybe it's I feel like timing is everything when 125 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: it comes to shows like it just it is what 126 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: it is. I have to be in the right head space. 127 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: And I did the exact same thing. But right now 128 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: you're doing a full rewatch of your season of The Bachelor. 129 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: Yeah I did. 130 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I'm obsessed with all of it. That sounds 131 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: like to ask me to go do a rewatch of O. G. 132 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: Vanner pump Rules sounds like the most horrendous idea ever. 133 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: I wish somebody warned me it was horrendous. It was. 134 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: It was a nightmare to rewatch. I thought it was 135 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: gonna be so fun and so cute and be like, 136 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 3: oh my god, ten years later like look at little 137 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: Caitlin and blah blah, and I was like sobbing and 138 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 3: having anxiety during the whole. 139 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: Thing because you were like embarrassed of behavior or like 140 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: where was what was it that made you like cringe? 141 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 3: No, it was more like I was actually really proud 142 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: of my behavior because I was like, that was super 143 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: true to myself. And I actually think I handled myself 144 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: better than than I would Now. I'm not sure why, 145 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: but I just I was really like, wow, I that 146 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: was pretty pretty good. Like the way I handled conversations 147 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: or tough times, like I was so messy, but I'm like, yeah, 148 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: that situation is messy. It was more so I think 149 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: I'm really good at compartmentalizing, and I think I put 150 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: all of that stuff that happened a drawer and pushed 151 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: it away, and I like hadn't opened that drawer in 152 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: ten years. And to go back and relive something that 153 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: was so real to me where you know, so many 154 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: people think it's staged or it's fake, or it's like scripted, 155 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: and it was one of the most like intense, real 156 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: things I've ever gone through in my life. And not 157 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: to mention like the production side of it, I felt 158 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: so betrayed by so many people. I was so naive 159 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: to television, Like just so much of it was reopened 160 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: when I was watching back that I it was like 161 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: I unlocked something that had been locked away forever. 162 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: Did you have to talk to your therapist about it? 163 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: Oh? Like I had to call in extra hours for 164 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: it because I was like, wow, I've never because I 165 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: thought about it, and I'm like, I've never really unpacked 166 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: what happened to me on that show or what I 167 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: went through, And all I did was when I came 168 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: out of it engaged, like when things got really bad, 169 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: we went and saw a therapist as like a couple's therapists. 170 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 3: But I never unpacked what I actually went through on 171 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: the show. So yes, there's a lot of therapy happen. 172 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like when you're that young, because you 173 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: said it was ten years ago, So how how old 174 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: were you when you did The Bachelor? 175 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: I just turned forty. I was thirty, so. 176 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: You were okay, so you were thirty when you went 177 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: on even now, like I look at these girls who 178 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 1: because I'm from Utah and there's a lot of girls 179 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: who get engaged and start having kids around like twenty 180 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: twenty one. 181 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and so when. 182 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: I started dating seriously around twenty five, I felt like 183 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm so like, I'm older, I'm mature, right, Yeah. Then 184 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: I have a baby at thirty and now I look 185 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: at girls. 186 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: Who are thirty. I'll be thirty five this year. 187 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: Girls who are thirty, and they're like, yeah, I just 188 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: feel like I need to, Like I should have a 189 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: kid by now. I'm like, wait, because although ocean is 190 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: like the best thing on the planet, I'm like, thirty 191 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: is so young. So to hear you talk about going 192 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: into such an intense environment, basically the name of the 193 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: game is to it's a it's a competition with women. 194 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: And I don't want to say that it's unhealthy. 195 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: To fight for the love and affection of a man 196 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: because I don't. 197 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: I don't want that's pretty toxic. 198 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna let you say. 199 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: I don't want this to ever feel like a like 200 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: a judgmental zone. But you being that age and just 201 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: being thrown into kind of like fight for a man's attention, 202 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: I can imagine that there was a lot that you 203 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: kind of pushed to the side, never to be thought again. 204 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: Like you said, you put it in a drawer and 205 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: didn't think about it. 206 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so interesting because I was so I went 207 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: on the Bachelor, and I actually was the most confident 208 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 3: I think I've been in my whole life, because I 209 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: had gone through such a horrible heartbreak. I had done 210 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: so much therapy on like figuring out who I was, 211 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: and I rebuilt my life and I came out of 212 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: it just being like, this is the perfect time for 213 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: me to go on a show like this, because I 214 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: didn't feel competitive with other women. I actually like I 215 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 3: went in there and I was like, I'm going to 216 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: show my like weird sense of humor. I'm going to 217 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 3: say offside jokes. I'm gonna like just be truly who 218 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 3: I am. And if he doesn't want that, like send 219 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: me home, I don't care. And I ended up making 220 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: so many beautiful friends in the house. And it was 221 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 3: more of when I was the bachelorette and dealing with 222 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: thirty twenty five to thirty. I can remember how many 223 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 3: men that are way more emotional than women, and like 224 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: being the lead and having to navigate so many different 225 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: personalities and relationships and like falling in love while also 226 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: still dating other people and constantly hurting people's feelings. Like 227 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: that's what really messed me up in the head more 228 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: than anything. 229 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: Wow. 230 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: So, so would you say that the toxicity of being 231 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: on the Bachelor came more from the production side of things. 232 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: Where it was like. 233 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, only because I'm like, now I look back at 234 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: it because I've seen behind the curtains so many times 235 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: where I was on the Bachelor, i was the Bachelorette, 236 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 3: and then I got to host two seasons of the Bachelorette, 237 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: and then now I'm hosting this new show where now 238 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, I have a little more understanding of production 239 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: and why they do what they do. I think I 240 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: just wish I was like not so naive because it 241 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: is toxic and they do. I don't know how to 242 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: explain it because it's not like they're forcing you to drink, 243 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 3: They're not forcing you to make decisions, but like things 244 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 3: are encouraged. And I never had been on TV before 245 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 3: and I never knew, so I truly thought the producers 246 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 3: were like wanting what's best for me, not what's best 247 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 3: for TV. So like it's taken a lot of time 248 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: to like forgive and forget, I guess and understand and 249 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: have a little more compassion for what they did because 250 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, I get it now. 251 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing is you're on a 252 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: show where you're putting your heart and soul. 253 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: On the line. 254 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it is. 255 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,119 Speaker 2: First and foremost to entertain p exactly. 256 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: I'm I don't know why I didn't. That didn't register 257 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 3: to me. 258 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: Like, why does It's not normal? It's not normal. 259 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: I remember looking at It was Sean who I got 260 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 3: engaged to, and it was one of our last dates, 261 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: and he was looking at me like, Caitlin, you see 262 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: like what they're doing. And I was like, Sean, these 263 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: people want what's best for me. They are family, and 264 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: He's like, and I really believed that. I was like, oh, 265 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: poor naive Caitlin. 266 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: But that's I think probably what made you so special 267 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: is that you were authentically you. And I think as 268 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: as we get older and have more experiences, we lead 269 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: with a heart that's been traumatized. 270 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: So true. I'm so glad that I was naive because 271 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: it really did allow me to just kind of surrender 272 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: to the process of, you know, being true to each relationship, 273 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 3: being true to myself. I was so messy, and I 274 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 3: would do that again. I wouldn't change a thing. And 275 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: You're right like, now I go into see situations just 276 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: like having trust issues and being jaded, and I'm like, 277 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: well that's not good either. 278 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: No, I know, it's a really fine line that we're walking. 279 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: I love what you said that you made a lot 280 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: of friendships in the process though, so you still talk 281 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: to a lot of people that were on your season. 282 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the final three girls that were on the 283 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: Bachelor with me. It was Me, Whitney, and Beca Tilly. 284 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: We were like the final three and like you couldn't 285 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 3: separate us. We would like try and sneak out of 286 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: our hotel rooms to hang out with each other and 287 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: find what rooms we were in, and we all hung 288 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: out after and then like a few girls still from 289 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 3: that season, Ashley I was on. I don't know if 290 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: you're familiar with the Bachelor world at all, but actually 291 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: I was like icon in that world and I love 292 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: her so much and she is now married to a 293 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: guy that was on my season. Oh, I'm like, yeah, 294 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 3: it's all just like one big weird family. 295 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: It is. But I'm totally used to that. 296 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: It's like, let's just you know, swap it, flip it 297 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: up in the air, whatever we got to do to 298 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: find our love. Yeah, exactly, So it wasn't it wasn't weird, 299 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: like kicking it with these people, knowing that your bulls 300 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: like kind of sharing intimate experiences with the same guy, 301 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: I think. 302 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: All the time because I'm like, why was that not weird? 303 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: And well, now Beca Tilly is engaged to a woman, 304 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 3: and I think, looking back, I think I really wasn't 305 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: super in love with the Bachelor, because I know how 306 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: I am when I'm in love, and I think I 307 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: was just very like I wanted to win almost and 308 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: then I got scared towards the end because I was like, oh, no, 309 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: he's obsessed with me, even though he dumped me, like blindsided, 310 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: and I was like, wait, what, You're not obsessed with me? 311 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: But I was like, I don't know why. The three 312 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 3: of us just like totally separated it. I think Beca 313 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: and I knew after after I got sent home. I 314 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: think Beca and I knew that it was Whitney and 315 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: I don't know, we all just were kind of there 316 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: for each other. Okay, so strange. I don't understand it. 317 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: Well, there is nothing like a bond between women who 318 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: have had to deal with the same guy. 319 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: That's true, but it's usually not in real time. 320 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: It's not in real time. I think we all understood 321 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: the assignment. Oh, I don't know, it's I think Whitney 322 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 3: was the one who was truly there for Chris. I 323 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: think she was really in love with him. I think 324 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 3: she really wanted to marry him. And I think Beckett 325 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: and I were just like in the whirlwind of the show. 326 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: Do you guys have your phones when you're filming. No, 327 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: you don't get them until you're like completely finished. 328 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it. I mean, when you're in the 329 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: final three, I want to say, that's like ten weeks 330 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 3: of filming. 331 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: What, Yeah, just the final three? 332 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's if you make it to the end, 333 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 3: it's ten it's ten weeks, I think. And for the 334 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: person who actually like gets engaged, I think it's eleven weeks. 335 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: Don't they start with like twenty five chicks. 336 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: Yes, And then so like if you got sent home 337 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: week one, then you're gone. So you only did a 338 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: week of filming, okay, because you continue to go on 339 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: the final three, you go to somewhere like exotic, and 340 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: then you have like some downtime, and then the one 341 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: person gets like the date, and then they have the overnight, 342 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: and then the bachelor gets a day off, and then 343 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: the next girl goes and then they do the rose 344 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: ceremony at the end of that week. 345 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: So then. 346 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: It's a lot of filming and it's a lot of 347 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: downtime for the contestants, but it is as being the 348 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 3: lead of that show, you do not. I think I 349 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: got like four hours of sleep at night, and if 350 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: I was had any downtime, it was like, we'll put 351 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: on your dress from this night and do pickups from 352 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: this and it was it was so much work. 353 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: And then you did the first ever season of Bachelorette 354 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: with another chick. 355 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: Yes, but that was so they Night one it was 356 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: between me and another girl who I actually got along 357 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: with quite well, and I think they really wanted us 358 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 3: to be like but we were like, we're very different people, 359 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: Like if they want her, then they're not for me, 360 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: and we were very realistic about it. But they had 361 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: to vote. The guys had to vote night one, and 362 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 3: they had to put a rose. They had to go 363 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 3: into like a voting room and put a rose in 364 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 3: somebody's box and yeah, and they ended up like I 365 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 3: don't know what the vote total was, but I ended 366 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: up getting it and Britt had to go home, and 367 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 3: I was like, I felt so bad because she's such 368 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 3: a sweetheart, and I was like, oh no, I actually 369 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: felt bad. 370 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: Well, I like having a partner in crime. 371 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: So for me to have like a little friend who's 372 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: like just as nervous as I am and we can 373 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: talk about the experience. I think I would bond with 374 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: a chick and be like, I don't care if all 375 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: these guys go home. 376 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: I just like want to feel safe with my girlfriend. 377 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: I totally agree. It was actually so fun because her 378 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: and I got to do press together, so we got 379 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: to like do the media rounds of like Kelly and 380 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: Michael and Good Morning America, and we got to do 381 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 3: all of it together to promote it because nobody knew 382 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: who had gotten to be the bachelorette at that point, 383 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 3: and that was actually really fun for us. 384 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 2: That's really cute. 385 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cute. 386 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: That's I mean. 387 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: But I'm I prefer girls and gays. Like to put 388 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: me in a room full of twenty five fucking dicks, 389 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even know what to do with myself. 390 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 3: I can't believe. I couldn't believe how much more emotional 391 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: and sensitive because they're egos. Like it was crazy because 392 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 3: I was like I was constantly having to like make 393 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: men feel better at all times. I was like, God, 394 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 3: this is and then my final too just like hated 395 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: each other. So it was like the Sean and Nick 396 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 3: Show of everything where I was just like, oh God, 397 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: can you guys just stop? It was so annoying. Great 398 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: for TV though, Great TV, Great TV. 399 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: Because you had done this already. 400 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: Like I always find anytime there is a camera that 401 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: wants to like capture me in the wild, I'm like, 402 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how to talk to dudes when you're filming, 403 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: Like it just is very intimidating. Were you able to 404 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: get to know the dudes the way that you normally 405 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: would like when you're just out with your girlfriends, Like 406 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: do you feel like you're pretty copy and paste in 407 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: both situations? 408 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 3: And so on Bachelorette, I found that I was almost 409 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 3: again I don't want to say forced, but it was 410 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 3: forced to have certain conversations because you're looking to be 411 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 3: engaged and find your husband. So it was like very 412 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 3: serious conversations right out of the gates. It was like 413 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: very much like are you looking for marriage? Like how 414 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: many kids? Like I wanted to talk about people's finances 415 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: and like political beliefs. 416 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, those are huge themes when you're moving forward with right, 417 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: do you want to marry someone, you got to know 418 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: that shit. 419 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: It's speed dating. It is speed dating. So in the 420 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: real world, I'm like, I am such a like my 421 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: way of flirting is to like poke fun and banter 422 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: and like not play games. But like I'm very much 423 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: just like a jokester. Where As the Bachelorette it made 424 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: me have it forced me to have more serious conversations, 425 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: where then after I came out of the relationship, I 426 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 3: was like, like on a first date, I would be 427 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 3: like having the serious conversations, So it just changed. 428 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: Kind of that's interesting to me. I'm kind of the 429 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: same way. 430 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: I have a really hard time having like deep conversations 431 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: when it comes like I kind of make light of 432 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: every single topic when I am dating, and I don't 433 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: know that it's the most productive. 434 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 2: I'm glad that I'm not alone, and you're the same way. 435 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 3: You're not alone. 436 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: I like it. 437 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: I like building more of like a bond and a 438 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 3: friendship and seeing if I'm like it has that and 439 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 3: the romantic connection, where on the Bachelorette I felt just like, Okay, 440 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 3: these are like the men I have to choose from 441 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: and I have to pick like the best from the group, 442 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 3: and like it was just so fast paced and you 443 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 3: don't get a lot of time. So like when I 444 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 3: got engaged, I didn't know his middle name and we 445 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: were like in a house together and I was going 446 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 3: to do a photo shoot to say like I'm engaged, 447 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 3: and he was like, well, wait, what's your phone number? 448 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: And I was like, this is weird, Like you just 449 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 3: don't like you had so many serious conversations with maybe 450 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: three or four of them where you're like, Okay, I 451 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: think I know this person, but the rest like I 452 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 3: couldn't even I don't even know anything about them. 453 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, how could you? 454 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: I have a question since doing stepping in as more 455 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: of a host, did you like because I know that 456 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: your personal life you like to as far as dating 457 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: at least, you like to keep that very private, which 458 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: is crazy when you think about the whole reason why 459 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: you are on the map was because your love life 460 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: was out there for people. Yeah, do you find that 461 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: you prefer more of a hosting role instead of being 462 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: like the main character of the storyline? 463 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: Very very much? So, I love hosting that. Like when 464 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 3: I got to host The Bachelorette, I was doing it 465 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: with Tasha and she had covid on the final Bros. Episode, 466 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: which is three hours of live television with a teleprompter, 467 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: commercial breaks, navigating these people's feelings, and it was and 468 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: you have somebody in your ear like telling you to 469 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: count down and do this and make sure you get 470 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 3: to this person this, and I was like, I think 471 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: this is what I was born to do. I loved 472 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: every second of it. I loved reading off the teleprompter, 473 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: I loved hosting. I loved like running the show. And 474 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: I hated being the Bachelorette. I thought I would love it. 475 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 3: I hated it. I felt I just felt so much pressure. 476 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: And then for some reason, as a host, I feel 477 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 3: like I'm like comfortable and I feel like it's what 478 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: I'm supposed to be doing. I don't. I don't know why, 479 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: but that's that's really how I feel. Well. 480 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: You get to still be in a place of entertaining people, 481 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: but you don't have you don't you're not. 482 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: As exposed and left as vulnerable. 483 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: And I think that's such a good point. I really 484 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: do enjoy, like I'm okay with being vulnerable. But I'm like, like, 485 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 3: if somebody asked me to go on Traders, I would 486 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 3: be like, hell yeah. But if somebody asked me to 487 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: go on like back as the bachelorette or bachelor in 488 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 3: pared or something like. I don't know. I think it's 489 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: what we were kind of saying earlier with being jaded 490 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 3: and leading with a jaded heart. I'm like, I want 491 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: to keep my dating life now so private and like 492 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 3: sacred to me because I have exposed myself and shared 493 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 3: so much of relationships and it has done nothing but 494 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 3: invite people in for their judgment and criticism and taking 495 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 3: the people like always want like the man to They're 496 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 3: always so much like on a man's side, and I 497 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 3: don't know what that is. Like in every situation I've 498 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 3: been in, it's like Caitlin's the crazy one and she 499 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: must be doing this and this and poor this guy, 500 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 3: and it's always that situation. And I'm like, I'm just 501 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 3: done with it for now until I'm married, and like 502 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 3: maybe want to show something once in a blue moon, 503 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: then I'll do that, but I'm just like, I think 504 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: I'm so jaded from sharing it. It feels so sacred 505 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: to me now. 506 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: I think that's beautiful. I think that's great. That's similar 507 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: to how I feel about parenthood. No one's ever seen 508 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: me as a mom on TV, and it's like a 509 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: blessing and a curse because it's the most proud Those 510 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: are my most proud moments. 511 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: But also in those moments. 512 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: You offer the outside world to now place judgment and 513 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: give their two cents, and you just you hold certain 514 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: things close to your heart. 515 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: And I think that's totally fair. 516 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and have you seen the internet in twenty twenty five, 517 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm terrified. 518 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, Caitlin. 519 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: After and I've spiraled about this for a very long time. 520 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: After season eleven a vander Pump Rules, I told my 521 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: it was so intense for me that I just wanted 522 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: to disappear. I was like, I'll go and record my podcast. 523 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't I would get you know, like we all 524 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: get invited to red carpets for movie premiere or whatever, 525 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: and I was like, I just don't want to be 526 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: involved at all because I am so afraid of the Internet. 527 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: And that has never ever been a thought in my 528 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: mind until a couple of years ago, where I was like, 529 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: I just want to be a normal stay at home mom, 530 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: pay the bills on time, no one fucking talked, don't 531 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: look at me, don't talk about me, and I'm still 532 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: kind of there. 533 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 2: The internet is scary. 534 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 3: It is scary, and it's so funny because so many 535 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: people have told me that you and I would be 536 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: good friends and that we like speak our mind and 537 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 3: that we're like similar personalities. And I've never been afraid 538 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 3: to like say what I think and say what I 539 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 3: want online, and now I'm just like, it's not worth it. 540 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 2: No, I don't. 541 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't really care what other people have 542 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: to say. But it's more of like it's scary seeing 543 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 3: what they have to say, because I'm like, what is 544 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: wrong with our world? And it's like I don't even 545 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 3: want to see it anymore. And I'm like, I don't know. 546 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 3: It's I still put so much stuff out there, but 547 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 3: I'm like it's almost like an experiment. Sometimes I'm like, 548 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 3: how weird are people going to get? If I'm in 549 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 3: a bathing suit online? The amount of attacks I get, 550 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, so then I'm like, it just depends on 551 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 3: what I always say. It depends on what cycle I'm 552 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: in of my period of how sassy I am online, Okay, 553 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 3: because if I'm in a sassy mood, I'll be like, oh, 554 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 3: you don't like be in a bathing suit and then 555 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: I'll get like weird and I'll dance so like I 556 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 3: ain't got no panties off bathing suit, you know. I 557 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 3: just I'm just And then other times I'm like crying 558 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 3: in a corner. You just I don't know. 559 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 2: You never know. Depends on the day, it really does. 560 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 3: And I'm also Gemini with a lot of cancer in 561 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 3: my chart, and so I'm like very spicy and then 562 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: very sensitive. 563 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: That is I so relate to that, like you're speaking 564 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: my language. I'm like, I'm Virgo sun with Scorpio rising, 565 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: so the two of those are in constant conflict with 566 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: each other. 567 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: So I feel for you, and the Gemini alone is 568 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 2: intense enough. 569 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm a walking contradiction at all times 570 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: because I like, don't I don't make any sense. I'm like, yeah, 571 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: come at me, bro, And then they come at me, 572 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: and I'm like crying, and I'm like, I'm just so confusing. 573 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: That's everybody. Everyone is a walking contradiction. That's just called life. 574 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 2: I'm really excited to talk to you about. 575 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: You've got this show that premierees on Hulu on August eighteenth. 576 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: It's called Are You by first, I have to all. 577 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: All I know is it's about a group of virgins. 578 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 3: Okay, so and are you already sold on the show? 579 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: I'm already sold. And I may be a born again 580 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: virgin who knows. 581 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm telling you this is the this 582 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 3: I've walked away from that show being like, this is 583 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 3: gonna be the best show out there. It was so entertaining. 584 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: But it was such a combination of awkward, sweet, endearing, dramatic. 585 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 3: It was like cute. It was so many different things 586 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 3: all in one, and I am obsessed with this group 587 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 3: of people. And I remember thinking, like when they asked 588 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 3: me if I would be interested in hosting this show, 589 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 3: I was like what because I was like I always 590 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 3: call myself the slut of the franchise of Bachelor Nation 591 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 3: because I like openly talked about sex and people were 592 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: like ugh, and so I was like really me. And 593 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 3: then it was like with Colton Underwood, I was like, 594 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 3: did this actually makes sense? 595 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 596 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 3: And I like mentoring people. I like being there for 597 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: people on reality TV, and I like them to think 598 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 3: of me as not just a host. Is like, so 599 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 3: my question to all the producers and stuff, which they're 600 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 3: the producers from Love Island. It's basically Virgin Island, you know, 601 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: it's like the same kind of concept, okay, And I 602 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 3: remember being like, Okay, but can I actually like have 603 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: real conversations with the cast of the show. Can I 604 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: be there for them if they need conversations like and 605 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: they were like yes. I was like, Okay, then I'm 606 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 3: in because I liked being able to do that on 607 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 3: The Bachelorette as well. And it was just so I mean, 608 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: everybody comes from such a different walk of life. You've 609 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 3: got people people are virgins for all different reasons. And 610 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: you know, sex is such a taboo topic. Whether you 611 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 3: have it, that's you know, ah you don't. Everyone's like, 612 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: oh my god, it's says such a judgmental thing. And 613 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: having these men and women on the show be so 614 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: open about it and there are reasons for it, you know. 615 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: It goes anywhere from religion to like one girl has vaginismus, 616 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: which like, do you know what that is? No? Tell me, 617 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 3: I actually I actually have it too, And I was like, 618 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 3: I'd never heard of anyone else having it. It's basically like, 619 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: so if I go into a doctor like to get 620 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: a physical, like they have to use the like mini 621 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: one on me. And it's not because like, oh, I 622 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 3: have a type vagina. It's because I actually, like my 623 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: muscles will seize up anytime something even goes near it, 624 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 3: and think, like sex is painful for me at the beginning, 625 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 3: going to get a physical is painful for me. And 626 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: I had never heard anyone else have it. And one 627 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: of the reasons this girl on here is a virgin 628 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: and is because she has that, and I'm like, well, 629 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 3: I'm definitely not a virgin and I still have that, 630 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: but it's it's actually like more common. My doctor wants 631 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 3: me to go to physical therapy to like, was. 632 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: It like a hip a hip issue? 633 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: It's the actual vagina is closing up, yes, And to be. 634 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 3: Honest with you, like it's it can be like from 635 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 3: a traumatic event. Like for me personally, it's because when 636 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 3: I was I don't know, sixteen years old, my boyfriend 637 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 3: was trying to force me to do things and I 638 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 3: think it like traumatized me, and so I seize up 639 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: anytime like something goes near there. Yeah, and so I don't. 640 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 3: You'll probably find out through the episodes like why why 641 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 3: she has it? And there's just so many different reasons, 642 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: like somebody's a Mormon, she has vaginismus, somebody's really just 643 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 3: waiting for the right one. Other people are just like 644 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: the one girl is scared of penises. She's like they're 645 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: scary looking. I'm like, I totally agree. And it's just 646 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: everybody's so vulnerable and like sweet, and it's just a 647 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 3: it's a very entertaining show. 648 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: And what would you say the age range. 649 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 3: Is, it's anywhere from I think the youngest is like 650 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 3: twenty three or twenty four thirty. 651 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: Oh okay, so they're young, yeah, and they're young enough 652 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: to be sexually active, but right, yes, but still still young, 653 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: and you know they've got there. I mean, I have 654 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: low testosterone right now, so I'm like, I like, do 655 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: you really I. 656 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 3: Just got on a testosterone cream. I'm like, is this forty? 657 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 3: Like I'm like it was like I turned forty and 658 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: I had to go on testosterone cream. I'm like growing 659 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 3: a full beard. It's like it's a whole thing. 660 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: I It's like, it's just it is what it is, right, 661 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: every single woman's gonna go through it. My mother, who's 662 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: sixty five, has higher testosterone than I do right now. 663 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 2: So I'm like what the fuck is this? 664 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: And I want to blame it on postpartum, but I 665 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: mean we're rounding into a year, bro, I'm like this, 666 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: you can't still be this right. 667 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: I'm always looking to blame something. And my mom's like, 668 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: maybe blame Perry menopause, and I was like, I hate it. 669 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: I don't say that word like that alone. 670 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 3: Just like I don't feel forty. I feel so young. 671 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 3: I feel like the best I've ever felt, So do 672 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 3: like my body you'd be going through this stuff, I'm like, what. 673 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: No, But it's all about your mind. The mind is 674 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: what caused the shots. 675 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: So if you feel like you're, you know, twenty seven, 676 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: still you fucking get it, bitch. 677 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 3: I do I feel like twenty nine thirty? 678 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: That's hey, ten years off. That's perfect. 679 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 680 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: My other question is do they get laid on the show? 681 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 3: I could say that one couple definitely entered the love shack, 682 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 3: which is where you're supposed to go if that's what 683 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: you would like to do. But it was very important 684 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 3: to not only the cast, but Colton and I and 685 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 3: all the producers to not force anyone or you know. 686 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: That was like a big conversation we had before even filming, Like, 687 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 3: nobody is to feel forced, nobody is to feel like 688 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: we're pushing something on them. Like it's very much building 689 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: relationships and finding love, and we like obviously hope they 690 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: found somebody. But it's one of those things that I 691 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 3: have to say, like tune in, why I. 692 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: Know, No, I love the tune in and find out 693 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: because I will be tuning in to find out the 694 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: thing that I love you. Saying that no one was forced. 695 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 1: Is your first your first not sexual experience, but your 696 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: first sexual experience. That kind of sets the tone for 697 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: how you view sex for the rest of your life. 698 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: And I lost my virginity at seventeen to my high 699 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: school sweetheart and we were together for a long time. 700 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: It was nothing but pleasant. And then I had a 701 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: friend who lost her virginity. I want to say she 702 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: was probably twenty two or twenty three. She'd waited a 703 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: long time. She lost her virginity to a very very 704 00:33:55,160 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: a list celebrity, and it completely fucked up. 705 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: Her view of self. 706 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh oh gosh. Was it like somebody freaky and 707 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 3: kinky that has like been there, done. 708 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: That, Yes, And I like no commitment obviously, And so 709 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: when one. 710 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 2: Party has held out to like sleep with. 711 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: Someone that they are into, and then the other person 712 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: is like, I'm just here for a good time and I. 713 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: Do this nightly with multiple chicks. It can fuck with you. 714 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 3: Oh, that totally would. 715 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: It would. 716 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: So I'm like really happy that the whole point of 717 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: the show is like creating a place to feel safe 718 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: where you're. 719 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 2: You know, showing it all and it's intimidating. 720 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 3: It is intimidating, and I think they were very like 721 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 3: nervous and intimidated. And you know, on shows, like any 722 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 3: kind of dating show, you're really pushing your boundaries and 723 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 3: getting uncomfortable, and to do that in front of cameras 724 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 3: and so they're just they were so they were so 725 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 3: willing to just explore and be open about everything, and 726 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 3: it was I loved every single one of them. I 727 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 3: just I just walked away from it being like they 728 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 3: got the best. Those are those the best group virgins 729 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 3: you could possibly get for television. 730 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 5: Oh my god, this is the best group of virgins. 731 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 3: I was like, we need a season two because you 732 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 3: can you'll be able to see like it's it's you know, 733 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 3: of course there's an element of poking fun and humor 734 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: to it, but at the same time, it really is 735 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 3: it's more so to like showcase and and destigmatize like 736 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 3: what virginity is, and I think it's it's actually out there. 737 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 3: There's like proof right now that the gen Z or 738 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 3: whatever it is, like people are waiting longer now or 739 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 3: trying to find the right one, and it's like, you know, 740 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 3: people aren't getting wasted and going to bars and having 741 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: one night stands anymore, and it is interesting to just 742 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,959 Speaker 3: see everybody's different reasoning for why and have a show 743 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 3: out there to talk about it. 744 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm happy about that too, because I feel like sex 745 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: is either not talked about or it shoved in your face, 746 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: And I'm like, where's like the gray area where we 747 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 1: can like have conversations and have them be productive and healthy, 748 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: because there are Like I was talking to a friend 749 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 1: the other day and I was like, yeah, I was 750 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: going through a whole phase, and he was like, do 751 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: you realize that men who go around and like they 752 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: never say like I was going through a whole phase. 753 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: They just like live their life and it's not labeled. 754 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, that is so true because I have been 755 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: through a few whole phases in my life and then 756 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: right where you think back and you're like, oh, wow, 757 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: was really you know, like I went forward. 758 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 3: I don't know how this girl has vaginismus because but 759 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,479 Speaker 3: I knew. But it's like, yeah, I feel you whole face. Yeah, 760 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 3: you're right. No, men don't say that. They just do it. 761 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: They just do it, and then they move on with 762 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: their lives. And then there are points in time where 763 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, I don't need I don't want it, 764 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: Like I think it's a luxury to be all up 765 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: in this bitch and I'm I was just gonna give 766 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: it to whoever, Like what are you bringing to the 767 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: table And it can't just be a big dick anymore? 768 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 2: Like, no, you gotta be bringing a lot more. 769 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I need way more than that. I'm like that's 770 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 3: another thing where I was talking about therapist about it, 771 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 3: because I'm like I need to be stimulated mentally so 772 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 3: much more now than I ever used to be, Like 773 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 3: I cannot just sit here and like be with a 774 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 3: guy i'm attracted to and be like own bang. Like 775 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 3: I'm just like not like that. I'm like I want 776 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 3: you to mentally stimulate me and then like go for 777 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 3: a nice dinner and have deep conversation and then like 778 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 3: get like I need to get there where we are 779 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 3: in oh phase that I'm not ashamed of. I would like, 780 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 3: let's I do loser laps around a bar and be 781 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 3: like you me, let's go. 782 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: For I like, what is that? 783 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 3: I don't know. 784 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 5: I don't know if it. 785 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 3: Was insecurity or just being blained stupid. I don't know. 786 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 3: I just was like I loved going out to a bar. 787 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 3: I loved trying to find like I would like, look, Okay, 788 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 3: this is so embarrassing. I think I've said it before, 789 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 3: but maybe not, but this is so embarrassing. I used 790 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 3: to look up like the NHL schedule and be like, Okay, 791 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 3: what teams in town tonight? Do they play the next day? 792 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 3: Because if they don't, they're going out tonight. And I'd 793 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 3: like go on a hunt to find a hockey player. 794 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 3: It's so Canadian. 795 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: That is very Canadian. 796 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm like, hockey, that's so weird now 797 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: it tracks. I do remember seeing that you're a Canadian. 798 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: But I feel like every chick has been a Jersey 799 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,479 Speaker 1: chaser at some point. 800 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 3: Wow. I mean there's still girls like my age. You want, 801 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 3: you know, the wag life. It seems great. 802 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 1: It seems it seemed great I think when I was young, 803 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: and now I look at it and I'm like, that 804 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: seems like a whole lot of like heartbreak and sadness 805 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: and and loneliness. 806 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 2: I feel holiness. 807 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 3: I actually like it. It's like when manifesting goes wrong. 808 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 3: Like I actually ended up with the guy that played hockey, 809 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 3: and it was awful because he was always gone. I 810 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 3: had no friends I had, I couldn't work, I couldn't 811 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 3: do anything. I was like stuck in a city that 812 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 3: I couldn't even speak the language. And I was like, 813 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 3: why do people want to do this right? 814 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: Because it looks so glamorous from the outside. 815 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 3: It does some people are built that did he have teeth? Yes, 816 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 3: but he had a really like beat up nose. But 817 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, if you have a beat up nose and 818 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 3: I'm like missing tooth from a puck, I'm all the 819 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 3: way turned on. 820 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm right, I know the missing tooth. 821 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: I get like the beat up like rugged face, like oh, 822 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: he's like gotten into it. 823 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 2: But the no teeth I just can't get behind. 824 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 3: Like the tooth is missing from like poor dental hygiene, 825 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 3: Like it has to be like a puck hit you 826 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 3: in the face. 827 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: Fucking like, I just can't imagine if he's like, I'm 828 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: gonna go down on you now and you're like takes 829 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: his teeth out tooth. 830 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, put it in first though. 831 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: The moment when you I first said that you were 832 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: with a hockey player, and that was the first thing 833 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: that came into my mind. 834 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 2: I was like, I really wonder if he had his 835 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 2: full grill. 836 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 3: He did, actually, I'm which is crazy because a lot 837 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,479 Speaker 3: of them don't. But yeah, you could tell his nose 838 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 3: has been through. 839 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: It, been through it. When did you move to the 840 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: States from Canada? 841 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 2: Uh? 842 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 3: When I got engaged on the show, So I was thirty. 843 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 2: Oh so you were still living in Canada when you 844 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: were filming. 845 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know all of the hottest bitches come from 846 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: Canada and Brazil. 847 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 3: And Brazil absolutely there is What was I watching? I 848 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 3: was watching The Perfect Match? Have you watched that? 849 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 4: No? 850 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 2: Is that on Netflix? 851 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 3: Yes? And I've never watched it before. And I'm actually 852 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 3: not a really big reality TV like I love Big 853 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 3: Brother and that's like my guilty pleasure, but I competition shows. 854 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 3: I love competitions, okay, and Perfect Match. My girlfriend was like, 855 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 3: you should watch it. It's actually really good this season. 856 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 3: So I put it on and I cannot stop staring 857 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 3: at I'm blanking on her name not Sandy. Shoot, she 858 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 3: is like half Indian, half Italian, and I'm like, how 859 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 3: was she? Like who created her? Because she is perfect 860 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 3: and she's so sweet and cute, but yeah, look her up. 861 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 3: Canadian girls are so I don't know how I do it, 862 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 3: but I always find myself gravitating to a Canadian in 863 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 3: the States where I don't even know she's Canadian, and 864 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 3: then I'm like, we're fast friends. And then I'm like, duh, 865 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 3: you're Canadian. 866 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 2: What's different about Canadian girls? 867 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 3: I find that Canadians are more like give give less 868 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 3: fucks maybe, and like have a really good sense of humor. Okay, 869 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 3: like you could tell they like. My favorite is a 870 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 3: prairie girl, which is someone from Alberta because you just 871 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 3: like grew up on the Prairies and I feel like 872 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 3: you didn't have a lot to do, but just like 873 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 3: use your imagination as a child and everyone has like 874 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 3: just great personalities from. 875 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 2: There, okay, And what part of Canada are you from? 876 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 3: Alberta? 877 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 2: I love it. 878 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: That makes me so happy that you just like tuned 879 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: that damn horn. 880 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,879 Speaker 3: Girl, I tuoted the ship on that horn. 881 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 2: I'm obsessed. 882 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: Have you seen the show Unreal that was on. I 883 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 1: believe it was either Showtime or HBO Max. 884 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 885 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 2: Did you find that? 886 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: That was pretty spot on? When it came to the 887 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: Bachelor Bachelorette. 888 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 3: Not spot on, But I will say that the person 889 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 3: who created that show was an executive producer from A 890 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 3: Bachelor And I do think the show used to be 891 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 3: that dark and like like that to me is like 892 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 3: the most dark and twisted and toxic environment, and I 893 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 3: do think it used to be like that. I don't 894 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 3: think it's like that anymore, but there are some like 895 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 3: parallels where I'm like, Okay, it gets watching it. While 896 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 3: I was like, I was not in a good, good 897 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 3: place when I came off the show, and I remember 898 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 3: laying on my girlfriend's couch watching it and just like 899 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 3: I didn't I was not eating. I was so just 900 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 3: like depressed, and I remember watching it just being like, 901 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 3: why am I partaking in my own like abuse right now? 902 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 3: Watching this like I was just like mentally beating myself up. 903 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 3: It was awful. But again, I do think it used 904 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 3: to be much darker. 905 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I really wanted to ask you that because that 906 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: was one of my most I loved watching and I 907 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,240 Speaker 1: don't love scripted TV, but I loved Unreal. 908 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 3: That was well done. 909 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,479 Speaker 2: It was very well done. 910 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm very picky when it comes to my scripted TV shows, 911 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: so I wanted to ask you that. All right, I'm 912 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,439 Speaker 1: going to I'm going to do a lightning round of questions. 913 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,920 Speaker 1: I did this with Tom Schwartz and he was not 914 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: lightning speed in any way, shape or form. All So 915 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,240 Speaker 1: me saying that you don't have to like know exactly 916 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: what you're gonna say. All right, my favorite reality show 917 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: to binge right now, Big Brother, Big Brother. 918 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 2: They're on season like four hundred, right. 919 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 3: I know, and I've watched it since I was like fifteen. 920 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 2: Wow, who's who's on this season? 921 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 3: They're Randoms? 922 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: Oh there is Oh so there's big Breather. There is 923 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: like Randoms. But then they're celebrity big Brother, right, yes, okay, 924 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to check that out because I actually 925 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: love Traders and I didn't think I would. 926 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 3: Oh yes, same. I was actually the same way. I 927 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 3: didn't think I would like it, and I loved it. 928 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so good dream celebrity to share a 929 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 1: bottle of Spade and Sparrow with. 930 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,760 Speaker 3: Like unrealistic dream or realistic dream, Let's do both. Okay. 931 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 3: Unrealistic would be Britney Spears. Okay, realistic, I don't know. 932 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 3: Realistic somebody that's like a self made billionaire. 933 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: Ooh, I love that. 934 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 3: Maybe like a. 935 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 4: Woman you said, yeah, like maybe like a not not 936 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 4: a Kylie Jenner, but someone because I'm like, I feel 937 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 4: like they had the money and then she got to 938 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 4: be like someone that actually started from nothing. 939 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 3: But I don't think it is as a celebrity. 940 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 2: Well, can I tell you who I think you would 941 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 2: get along with? 942 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 3: Who? 943 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 1: And I know her? I'm friends with her sister. We 944 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: grew up in Utah together. Her name's Whitney wolf Heard 945 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: and she was a part of Tinder and then left 946 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: and started Bumble and. 947 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 2: She is a fucking bad ass. And I feel like. 948 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: You guys would totally just hit it off and have 949 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: epic conversations while sipping Spade and Sparrow. 950 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:17,520 Speaker 3: That's who. 951 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: That would be my realistic one for you. Okay, I 952 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: wonder who I would want to share one with. 953 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 3: Well, I was just speaking that. I was like, can 954 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 3: I ask. 955 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 2: Her, of course you can. I always am drinking in 956 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 2: my mind. 957 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 3: Same. 958 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 1: I would love to catch a buzz on Spade and 959 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: Sparrow with maybe like fifty cent. I think we would 960 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: have such a fun time. Plus I love the fact 961 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: that he trolls everybody twenty four to seven and like 962 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 1: pays zero attention to the comments you. By the time 963 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: the comments come in, He's already trolled seventeen more people. 964 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 2: And I'm obsesed. 965 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 3: Yes, he is having the moment and I'm here for it. 966 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 2: I'm here for it too. 967 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 1: And then maybe just like an normy not normy, I 968 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 1: would join you and Whitney wolf Heurd. 969 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,320 Speaker 3: Okay, oh yeah, you're invited because. 970 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 2: I would want to like pick her brain a lot. 971 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 3: Totally all right, Sorry. 972 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: To make it about me, No, I wanted to ask 973 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: the one rom com you watch on repeat? 974 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 3: I hate rom coms? 975 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 2: Really? 976 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 977 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 1: Can I tell you a really really cute one? Have 978 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: you seen in Her Shoes with Cameron Diaz? No, okay, 979 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 1: just try it out. It's with another actress who I 980 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: cannot remember her name. 981 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 2: But it's actually really fucking cute. Because you think. 982 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 1: It's like a rom com, but it's actually just like 983 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: a really cute. Uh, like chicks being sisters and like 984 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: that's the love story in it. 985 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 3: I love Cameron Dio, so I'll check that out. Okay, 986 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 3: I'll say this one's so old, but I love and 987 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 3: I watch it every Christmas. Is Serendipity with Kate Beckinsale. 988 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 2: Never seen it. 989 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,720 Speaker 3: Oh it's so good. 990 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: Okay, I love that and I'm going to watch it. Okay, 991 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 1: that's on my to do list. And then please watch 992 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 1: in her shoes and let me know what you think. 993 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: The next one is first thing you do if you 994 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: could be anonymous for twenty four hours? 995 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 3: Oh something illegal? 996 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 2: Something illegal? Fuck yeah, like. 997 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 3: Get drunk and being in public or something crazy and 998 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 3: just like have so much fun and just like get crazy. 999 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, anonymous for twenty four hours. 1000 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,280 Speaker 2: I'd get wasted on an airplane? 1001 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so FN Yeah that's as long as it's 1002 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 3: not like a really long flight because I hate getting 1003 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 3: drunk on a plane and then you like wake up 1004 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 3: hungover and you're still on the plane. 1005 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, or you get off and you realize that what 1006 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: is that saying one in the bush is worth two 1007 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: in the sky. 1008 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 3: Yes, very true, it is true. 1009 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: Which app would you delete? Forever if you had to 1010 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: Instagram or TikTok. 1011 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 3: Oh, God, probably TikTok. Probably TikTok. I still like am 1012 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 3: kind of on the Instagra and TikTok. Will find myself 1013 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 3: like going way too deep in holes of like why 1014 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 3: am I still here? Like my algorithm is pretty good. 1015 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 3: Like it actually makes me belly laugh. I'm not like 1016 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 3: scrolling being like, eh, I'm scrolling laughing my ass off. 1017 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 3: So that's a good thing, I guess because I'm like cheerful. 1018 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 3: But I scroll too hard on that. 1019 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 2: On TikTok or Instagram. 1020 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 3: TikTok. 1021 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a scroller on the TikTok. 1022 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 3: It makes me feel like I'm not creative and I'm 1023 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 3: not funny, and I'm not like because people are so 1024 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 3: good on that app. I like, it's actually impressive. 1025 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 2: It's very impressive. 1026 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: It's for sure and art, which is harder wearing stilettos 1027 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: for a red carpet or keeping a secret on reality TV. 1028 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 3: Oh, keeping a secret. I could wear heels all day long. 1029 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 3: I don't know what. I think. It's from being a 1030 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 3: ballerina my whole life. My feet are just like numb 1031 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 3: and calloused everywhere, and I find heels to be fine. 1032 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,240 Speaker 3: It would be hard for me to keep a secret 1033 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 3: because I like, I like bondie with people, and I 1034 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,279 Speaker 3: feel like sometimes secrets bond you. 1035 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:03,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1036 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: You you said it perfectly. That is so fucking true. 1037 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: I am now at this place where I'm like, if 1038 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: you don't want any like it is such a secret 1039 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: that you don't want anybody to know. 1040 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 2: Ever, please don't tell me. Do me a favor. Don't 1041 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 2: fucking tell me. I'm begging you. All right, last question, 1042 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 2: the last thing you impulse bought online? 1043 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 3: Gosh, I'm I am such a consumer. I buy online 1044 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 3: all the time. 1045 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 2: It's like a real addiction for me. 1046 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 3: I replace, Oh, really, shopping is your Yeah, what did 1047 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 3: you just buy? I think I bought. There's so there's 1048 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 3: like a leg in the video right now, and I 1049 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 3: feel like it's my leg. 1050 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 2: No, Like, what are you talking about? 1051 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 3: No? I mean like like a delay. 1052 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:06,479 Speaker 5: Oh, a lag, like. 1053 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 3: When you I can see your mouth moving, but then 1054 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 3: it takes a long time for your voice to come through. 1055 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,800 Speaker 2: Fun, all right, you don't have to answer. 1056 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna right, I don't know, We're gonna 1057 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 1: wrap it up, Caitlin. I'm really happy you joined me. 1058 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you can hear me though in 1059 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: real time. 1060 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 3: You guys, I don't know where we are. 1061 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: All right, don't worry. I'm just gonna sign you off. 1062 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: You guys, this was Caitlin Bristow. Make sure that you 1063 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: tune in to her new show on Hulu that she's hosting, 1064 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: Argue My First. 1065 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 2: It's about a fabulous group of virgins. 1066 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: We love that her podcast Off the Vine is on 1067 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: Tuesdays and Thursdays and you can catch them wherever you 1068 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 1: get your podcasts or on YouTube. 1069 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 5: Kayle, thank you. 1070 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 4: It's like this and then like a minute later, I 1071 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 4: can like see what's happening. 1072 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 3: It's crazy, but I'm glad this happened. At the end, 1073 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 3: You're amazing. I love you. Thank you for having me. 1074 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 5: You're welcome by Babe.